Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-05

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00:00 tonsofpcs oh, nevermind, he's not on
00:00 tonsofpcs i'll just send a forum pm
00:00 HighMan Contact me... I'm a board admin.
00:00 HighMan Get it? Bored admin. Hahahaha, that's a knee slapper
00:01 tonsofpcs oh, nice, they have a "global moderators" destination
00:01 tonsofpcs sent.
00:02 HighMan OH. It's a forum... I thought iwas ebay...
00:02 * HighMan Facepalms... That ebay link was to steve!
00:03 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is there not an e-mail or something in the "we're gunna review joo" email?
00:04 Cprossu lol
00:05 Cprossu ROFL HighMan
00:05 Cprossu tonsofpcs nope
00:05 HighMan cprossu :P
00:06 Cprossu Your account is currently inactive and will need to be approved by an
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00:06 Cprossu has occurred.
00:06 Cprossu Your password has been securely stored in our database and cannot be
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00:06 Cprossu using the email address associated with your account.
00:06 Cprossu Thank you for registering.
00:06 Cprossu ^ tonsofpcs
00:07 Cprossu wow that was fast tonsofpcs
00:07 Cprossu approved
00:14 Cprossu and finally posted
00:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you're in btw :)
00:19 tonsofpcs yea
00:20 HighMan +Bocsy
00:23 Experimentonomen im goin to bed, nite peepz
00:23 HighMan Nite
00:23 Guardianzozo later
00:23 Guardianzozo y
00:23 Guardianzozo =)
00:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: shouldn't you have a sig saying "the geek group"? :)
00:24 tonsofpcs M
00:24 HighMan *The Geek Group
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00:27 tonsofpcs Cprossu: egrsteve said something about there being an 'offline' mode on the switcher surface, [not sure exactly what he said it said, that's just what our automtion calls it]
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00:45 Cprossu guys did the internet just break?!?!?!?!?
00:45 tonsofpcs no
00:45 tonsofpcs 19:24:06 < tonsofpcs> Cprossu: shouldn't you have a sig saying "the geek group"? :)
00:46 tonsofpcs 19:27:25 < tonsofpcs> Cprossu: egrsteve said something about there being an 'offline' mode on the switcher surface, [not sure exactly what he said it said, that's just what our automtion calls it]
00:46 tonsofpcs 19:28:36 -!- Cprossu [~cpro@ip72-222-196-252.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
00:46 tonsofpcs 19:29:46 -!- Cprossu_Laptop [~Cprossu_L@ip72-222-196-252.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
00:46 HighMan Internet is fine
00:46 tonsofpcs I mean, your little corner of it seems to have, but ingenerall, no
00:46 BitViper|Bed i may have gotten my feet too close to the router, that could kill anything
00:47 HighMan I always trip on my laptop charger wire... And there goes the laptop.
00:49 BitViper|Bed i did that once, the lappy wasnt impressed
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00:52 HighMan I was that the laptop didnt' die xD
00:54 tonsofpcs I'd hope your laptop wasn't impressed by your feet.
00:56 tonsofpcs apparently neither was batsteve
00:57 tehdark45 lol
00:59 tonsofpcs hmm... So I own onfreenode.net.  Thinking I should set up a landing page that has links to channels' pages (I have channelname.onfreenode.net forwarding for a few), what do you think?
01:00 tonsofpcs make it a 'guide to freenode' or such
01:01 HighMan My aunt dropped a knife and it went right inbetween her big toe and middle toe, it went through the tarp in to the dirt, and here foot was unscathed.
01:04 tehdark45 and thats how you were born?
01:04 tehdark45 :P
01:08 lwq1996 ok who wants to skype
01:09 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
01:09 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 3.13 hours ago at 2012-03-04 22:01:16 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:09:16 UTC
01:10 tehdark45 lwq1996, just get teamspeak
01:10 lwq1996 god ok
01:11 tehdark45 lol
01:11 tehdark45 that way you can just enter
01:11 tehdark45 no need to start a call
01:16 tehdark45 any luck lwq1996
01:16 lwq1996 no
01:16 lwq1996 no idea how to use the app for ipod
01:16 lwq1996 its just the forum i think
01:16 lwq1996 and the paid version is 5dollars
01:17 tonsofpcs is there a tgg ts?
01:18 ajprog_laptop ts?
01:18 lwq1996 teamspeak
01:18 BitViper|Bed not an official one, but zozo and I both run ts servers and tgg'ers are welcome on either
01:19 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, yes
01:19 tehdark45 ts3server://gamerxreviews.net
01:19 tonsofpcs ooo, ts android app x2
01:19 tonsofpcs one is actually ts, one is a 'remote' that lets you control a PC client, I wonder if I can hook a headset to the htpc and use that for control
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01:21 hopstafarian hi all
01:21 tehdark45 hi hopstafarian
01:22 hopstafarian hey tehdark45 ...what's the latest and greatest?
01:22 tehdark45 nothingness
01:22 tehdark45 lol
01:22 hopstafarian tehdark45, nice
01:23 tonsofpcs I still have no clue where the mic is on this tablet
01:23 tehdark45 we can hear you
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01:24 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, what tablet?
01:25 Monkeh tonsofpcs: No little hole?
01:25 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, or which, i should say
01:25 tonsofpcs hopstafarian: Acer Iconia A500
01:26 tonsofpcs i  have an idea where it is
01:26 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Look for a pinhole on the top edge..
01:26 tonsofpcs oo, found it
01:27 tonsofpcs they put it behind the sd card slot cover
01:27 hopstafarian cool
01:27 Monkeh Sneaky
01:29 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, i hear the docs are weak, but how do you like it other than that?
01:29 tonsofpcs there's a half circle hole in one corner of where it edges, wouldn't have realized that was it except that the case has three holes in a line there
01:29 tonsofpcs hopstafarian: docs?
01:29 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, lol
01:30 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, have any experience with beowulf cluster?
01:31 tonsofpcs I've read the story of Beowulf, does that count?
01:31 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, sure...
01:32 BitViper|Bed i so badly want to build a beo cluster, but dont have the equipment =(
01:35 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, i don't i do either, and that was the question...wanted to someone who'd seen them run in theory to know if the mismatches of node and master would make a useless endeavor in terms of performance (i'm still willing to spend the time in the interest of learning how))
01:35 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, but as someone with limited time, wanted to prioritize that endeavor..
01:36 BitViper|Bed hopstafarian : it is my understanding that with proper configuration, differences between nodes makes no difference, the cluster as a whole will use whatever resources a given node has and does not depend on all of them to be equal.
01:36 BitViper|Bed but i could be wrong. i have studied, but not actually played with one
01:36 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, basically like network design...
01:36 BitViper|Bed sorta
01:37 BitViper|Bed a beo cluster is an HP (high performance) cluster as opposed to an HA (high availability, ie redundant) cluster
01:37 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, just starting to study, and that's what i got too...just was hoping to find someone who could quantify the diffs in theory and execution...
01:38 hopstafarian bit, so parallel as opposed to serial w/ redundancy..?
01:38 BitViper|Bed not really.
01:39 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, i'm all turned around then...thats why i ask..(warning me=special..you'll have to go slow)
01:40 BitViper|Bed serial vs parallel isnt the right analogy
01:40 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, if you have the time, i'm all ears..
01:42 BitViper|Bed (simplification) in an HA cluster you have a bunch of identical machines running identical software. whole tasks are assigned to a given machine. if a machine fails or is removed, its tasks get automaticly assigned to another machine. thus high availability. redundancy.
01:43 BitViper|Bed (simplification) in an HP cluster, each machines resources are joined into a single virtual machine, so 4 quad core machines in an HP cluster such as a beowulf cluster appear as a single 16 core machine running a single set of software
01:43 hopstafarian ok, that's ha...so hp doles out the resources?
01:43 BitViper|Bed programs and threads are treated accordingly
01:44 hopstafarian ok, w/ you so far
01:45 BitViper|Bed there are variations on both types, and there are a lot more details to each, but those are the basic theories of operation as I understand them. Im also open to someone correcting what ive stated.
01:45 tonsofpcs BitViper|Bed: so a render farm is an HA cluster?
01:45 tonsofpcs if so, then I've worked with a small one.
01:46 BitViper|Bed a video render farm could be either really. It would sort of depend on what you wanted from your farm. ...
01:46 tonsofpcs mind you, running the lightwave render client on a few machines hardly makes me experienced...
01:46 BitViper|Bed ... if you wanted to be able to run many renders in parallel w/o them choking each other, than go HA, if you want to put all the power you can into one or a small number of renders, go HP
01:47 hopstafarian so i guess the question was yes mismatched resources are do-able as long as you can troubleshoot the choke points?
01:47 hopstafarian within the hp model
01:47 hopstafarian ?
01:47 tonsofpcs BitViper|Bed: honestly, I'd think HA would be best for any such rendering, assuming that storage bandwidth was unlimited.
01:48 BitViper|Bed an HA cluster almost has to be identical hardware and software. an HP cluster really has no requirements as far as matching, but as noted, there are different subtypes too
01:49 BitViper|Bed in an HA cluster any single job is limited to the power of a single node. in an HP cluster any job that is threaded is limited only by the total resources in the cluster
01:49 hopstafarian BitViper|Bed, thank that answered my ?...always appreciate the trouble and time...ty
01:49 BitViper|Bed (noting that network speed essentially becomes your inter-processor bus speed)
01:50 hopstafarian which is where it is like balancing a  network (my earlier, poorly framed question...)
01:50 BitViper|Bed sort of yes.
01:51 hopstafarian lol...thanks for giving me that...looks like i need to dig a lil deeper...
01:51 tonsofpcs BitViper|Bed: Well, diversified rendering doesn't require identical hardware, since the software handles the job control, it just needs software that can handle it the same oon all machiens
01:52 BitViper|Bed that is true, and that would be an example of the different sub-types
01:52 BitViper|Bed the HP and HA are very general classes
01:53 BitViper|Bed and im far from an expert on them
01:53 tonsofpcs heck, the lightwave render client can run on an m68k Amiga, an Alpha (NT or linux), an intel 32 bit machine (windows or linux), and a G5 all working on the same rendering
01:54 BitViper|Bed that sounds like HP style, as any distributed system (like SETI) pretty much has to be
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02:06 * KB3NZQ got a new toy today
02:07 BitViper|Bed is she cute ?
02:07 * BitViper|Bed hides
02:07 KB3NZQ no
02:07 BitViper|Bed lol
02:07 KB3NZQ it is a ic-706mk2
02:07 BitViper|Bed awwww, did you get me one ?
02:07 KB3NZQ no
02:07 BitViper|Bed daggonit =(
02:08 KB3NZQ i didn't have to pay for mine
02:08 BitViper|Bed thats always a bonut
02:08 BitViper|Bed *bonus
02:09 KB3NZQ i was headed home from arrends and i saw a old lady in the parking lot for the comounity park her car was broke down
02:09 KB3NZQ so i got her car running and followed her home to make sure she made it ok
02:10 KB3NZQ while doing that i found out her late husband was a ham operator as well
02:10 KB3NZQ and she offered me some of his old stuff
02:11 BitViper|Bed nice
02:11 BitViper|Bed kindness pays off once again
02:12 KB3NZQ the 706mk2 is not as old as my kenwood tm-2530A  (at least 23 years out of production)
02:12 KB3NZQ on the kenwood
02:12 KB3NZQ the 706  is like 5 years out i think
02:12 BitViper|Bed something like that, but still popular
02:13 masterofmonks Either of you QRP?
02:13 * egrsteve has Hallelujah stuck in his head
02:13 KB3NZQ now i just need to come up w/ 8,000 to pay off the car
02:13 BitViper|Bed masterofmonks : i dont, i barely get on the air at all. either my antennas or my radio is hard of hearing
02:14 masterofmonks Ah.
02:14 masterofmonks QRP is what got me into HAM
02:14 masterofmonks Though I have to confess I have not done much with my licence yet.
02:14 egrsteve hmm, how many hams are there here?
02:14 BitViper|Bed i know i get out well, but much of the time i cant hear crap. thats what i get for living in an apt. all i have is a 20m dipole strung across my livingroom and bedroom, and a 10m dipole down my entrance hallway
02:14 egrsteve at least 4
02:14 masterofmonks Been too busy getting my smithy set up.
02:15 BitViper|Bed egrsteve more than a few
02:15 masterofmonks BitViper|Bed, have you considered a weather balloon aerial?
02:15 egrsteve a higher % than the general population
02:15 KB3NZQ do you count HT/s on 144 with a beam doing 1W from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Davis_(Pennsylvania)   to pittsburgh
02:15 BotSteve Title: Mount Davis (Pennsylvania) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:15 BitViper|Bed masterofmonks : they'd throw me out of the apartments
02:16 masterofmonks Seriously?
02:16 masterofmonks Apartments suck.
02:16 egrsteve hide a dipole across the attic ;)
02:17 KB3NZQ or tune your rain gutters
02:17 egrsteve use romex, no one will be any the wiser
02:17 BitViper|Bed masterofmonks : yeah, i got lucky when i moved in and was allowed a mastpipe to the eves outside my 2nd story window for my vhf, but was conditional on being painted to match the building, and that it was behind the tree. a few years later they clamped down hard on ANYTHING outside the bldg, but they grandfathered my pole in.
02:17 masterofmonks The one my father was in wouldn't let him get satelitte TV, even though other people already had it.
02:17 BitViper|Bed so i have vhf outside, except the antenna is fsck'd
02:18 BitViper|Bed KB3NZQ : no gutters, but have considered trying to tune the eves themselves
02:18 KB3NZQ lol
02:18 KB3NZQ check out my above link
02:18 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : no access to attic
02:18 egrsteve make access
02:19 BitViper|Bed id prefer not to get thrown out
02:19 egrsteve request access
02:19 egrsteve they might let you because it is unseen
02:20 egrsteve a little 3/8 hole in a closet celing no one will care about and you well be set
02:20 BitViper|Bed i did request, wasted effort. they would "consider" it under a whole list of conditions, including that it was installed by licenced (and i dont mean ham) and insurred installers
02:20 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : oh there's easy access for a wire from the apt to the attic, but not for me to install said antenna
02:21 egrsteve licensed antenna installer? there are licenses for that?
02:21 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : that was my question to the guy
02:21 BitViper|Bed its like, um, yea, I AM the licenced installer
02:22 egrsteve if there is no licencing org make one up ;)
02:22 BitViper|Bed basicly its "we wont let you do it, we'll keep coming up with reasons not to"
02:22 KB3NZQ of steel tow boots up peoples ass's
02:22 KB3NZQ lol
02:22 BitViper|Bed i need to get a place down there in gr somehow
02:23 egrsteve maybe when zozo and some of the others get a place?
02:23 BitViper|Bed zozo and i and wannabe are working on it
02:23 BitViper|Bed and zozo is supposed to be in contact with chris' realestate agent for some help too
02:23 BitViper|Bed or thats what i understand
02:24 * KB3NZQ needs to go to bed casue he has to be at work at 8am and it is 9:25 pm now
02:24 KB3NZQ 73's
02:24 BitViper|Bed we want to get a 4+ br place near the lab for us and room to host members who need a place to stay for a night or three like me and zozo ourselves
02:25 BitViper|Bed g'nite KB3NZQ
02:25 egrsteve night, 73
02:25 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : i sent you the url with links to my repeater coverage scans right ?
02:25 egrsteve yes
02:25 BitViper|Bed ok
02:26 egrsteve looking at the coverage I need to make contact we people at GV and see if we can make magic happen
02:27 BitViper|Bed that'd be sweet. based on those basicly we just need 50 ish feet above the valley rim, which is roughly 100' above the river it seems.
02:28 egrsteve can you run a sim of 100ft on that tower at GV?
02:28 egrsteve that could be interesting
02:28 BitViper|Bed the old gv campus you mean ?
02:28 egrsteve allendale
02:28 BitViper|Bed yeah. sure
02:29 egrsteve my cantact at GV says it may be feasable, and we "me and him: will have to talk to the engineer at wgvu
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02:31 Cprossu FUCKING BASTARDS!
02:31 Cprossu my isp deregistered my modem
02:32 egrsteve if we can put a repeater 100 to 200 ft up a TV we should be swt
02:32 egrsteve *set
02:32 Cprossu hey egrsteve
02:32 egrsteve hi Cprossu
02:33 egrsteve *^^ set, TV tower
02:33 BitViper|Bed egrsteve which of the two towers there did we figure was the college tower ?
02:34 egrsteve I can look it up
02:34 BitViper|Bed there was the tower with just a little building by it, and a bigger tower closer to the parking lot with a bunch of sat dishes around it
02:35 egrsteve GV has a 258 m tower
02:35 BitViper|Bed holy balls !
02:35 egrsteve it's the one off the service road that runs N/S
02:35 * lwq1996 slaps tehdark
02:36 BitViper|Bed well there's a n/s drive to both of them
02:38 egrsteve it looks to be the eastmost one
02:38 egrsteve http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistration.jsp?regKey=111022
02:38 BotSteve Title: ASR Registration 1005721
02:39 BitViper|Bed ok i thought that was the one we figured was most likly
02:40 lwq1996 whats the team speak for tgg
02:40 ajprog_laptop BitViper|Bed: there are 3 towers in allendale, I believe two of them are GVSU one radio and one tv
02:40 egrsteve no
02:40 egrsteve one is a christian TV station
02:40 ajprog_laptop that is the third one
02:41 egrsteve one is Ottawa county disbatch, one is WGVU
02:41 ajprog_laptop ok
02:42 BitViper|Bed 100' on the mentioned tower covers from gr to the shore pretty nice using a mobile in a car at 10w as a reference. however does NOT cover GR itself very well
02:42 egrsteve it seems that other TV stations is 300m, so it's the second tallest tower there
02:43 BitViper|Bed ideal would be repeater tx on gvsu gr campus, and rx on both gr and a remote rx on allendale
02:44 ajprog_laptop if you are in allendale the christian tv is the one with the white lights
02:44 ajprog_laptop south of pierce
02:44 egrsteve ah, good to know
02:44 * egrsteve can see both from his house
02:45 ajprog_laptop all three
02:45 egrsteve only on good nights can I see the OC disbatch one
02:45 egrsteve a I have too many tall trees
02:45 BitViper|Bed youre only a few miles from them arent you ?
02:45 egrsteve yes
02:46 BitViper|Bed prolly closer to them than to the lab
02:46 ajprog_laptop 1/2 mile
02:46 egrsteve about 4.5 LOS
02:47 egrsteve maybe as low as 4
02:47 BitViper|Bed looks like just over 4
02:47 egrsteve the lab looks to be 10 to 12
02:48 BitViper|Bed 4.25 to the big tower
02:48 egrsteve WGVU or the other one?
02:48 egrsteve WGVU should be closest to the campus
02:48 BitViper|Bed 7.75 to the lab .... the big tower the one nearest the campus
02:49 tonsofpcs egrsteve: what's going on?
02:49 tonsofpcs I see talk about towers
02:49 BitViper|Bed we're planning rocket launch targeting :)
02:49 tonsofpcs ajprog_laptop: is that the one that's trying to sell for way more than they're worth?
02:50 ajprog_laptop ??
02:50 egrsteve I did not realize that lab was that close LOS to GV
02:51 BitViper|Bed about 10.5 from lab to big tower
02:51 egrsteve would an Allendale TX/RX cover the lab, or is it too low?
02:52 egrsteve that sounds about right, 10.5
02:52 BitViper|Bed 100' on gvsu allendale would barely cover a 10w mobile in the west gr area
02:52 egrsteve 150, 200ft?
02:53 BitViper|Bed didnt try those
02:53 egrsteve if it's all about elevation and they have a 280m tower
02:53 egrsteve doubleing the height is easy
02:53 egrsteve or should we go for 600ft?
02:53 egrsteve nice even 200m
02:54 egrsteve 650ft of lmr 400 $$$
02:54 BitViper|Bed at 200' the river valley is still poorly covered, hit and miss
02:54 egrsteve even a couple hundred ft won't be cheap
02:55 BitViper|Bed let me upload this image
02:55 egrsteve I wonder if for 25 watt lmr 240 would be sutable
02:56 egrsteve hmm 10db loss on 200ft lmr240
02:56 egrsteve lmr 400 would be closer to 5-6 db
02:57 tonsofpcs I don't think I've ever seen 240
02:57 tonsofpcs everyone jumps from RG-6 to 400 to 1-5/8 EIA...
02:58 tonsofpcs ajprog_laptop: let me find the link (sorry for delays, discussing a very important subject on FB [read: D3 hockey])
02:58 egrsteve 240 is rg/6
02:58 egrsteve 200 is rg-59
02:58 egrsteve or close to it
02:58 egrsteve 195 is 59
02:59 BitViper|Bed egrsteve link added to previous url
03:01 egrsteve thanks
03:02 egrsteve that is good ottawa county coverage
03:02 tonsofpcs erm, RG6 is 75ohm, LMR is all 50, no?
03:02 egrsteve I meant rg-8
03:02 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : yeah, great for everything west of gr
03:03 egrsteve and I think ther is a couple 75 ohm equivs in the LMR series
03:03 tonsofpcs also, I want to hurt whoever wrote the RG-6 wikipedia article "RG59 has a copper foil sheath" AU@($^U*@(^*@(^*
03:03 BitViper|Bed lol
03:03 egrsteve rg-59/cu does
03:03 tonsofpcs there's some companies that make what is essentially LMR but 75 ohm, pretty sure comscope does
03:03 egrsteve well not foil but copper
03:04 tonsofpcs right.
03:04 BitViper|Bed ok im out, time for medz and bedz 73's i hope to be to the lab tues
03:04 egrsteve people get your coaxs right
03:04 * Monkeh whips egrsteve with some WF100
03:05 egrsteve quad shield?
03:05 Monkeh No, just double. There's a triple which is popular lately though.
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03:07 egrsteve Monkeh:  not a low loss cable either
03:08 Monkeh egrsteve: No, just pretty ordinary 75 ohm coax. Just one you won't be familiar with. ;)
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03:08 egrsteve it looks to be a EU version
03:09 egrsteve of rg-6 with a double shield
03:09 Monkeh Pretty much UK specific afaik.
03:09 egrsteve ah uk
03:09 tonsofpcs ok, back, now to find that url
03:10 Monkeh egrsteve: 75 ohm, solid copper core, foam dielectric, iirc 55% copper braid coverage and overlapping copper foil.
03:10 egrsteve these days in the us if you really want to spec a coax you nee to use Mil not RG numbers because rg is no longer a offical spec
03:10 egrsteve so a basic 75 ohm, no thrills coax
03:11 egrsteve rg used to be a military spec here
03:11 Monkeh Of decent quality
03:11 egrsteve rg used to be radio grade
03:23 tonsofpcs ajprog_laptop: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BROADCAST-TELEVISION-STATION-BUSINESS-ALL-EQUIPMENT-AND-TOWER-BUILDING-/370591059371?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item5648f2cdab
03:23 BotSteve Title: BROADCAST TELEVISION STATION BUSINESS ALL EQUIPMENT AND TOWER & BUILDING | eBay
03:23 tonsofpcs they aren't worth $300k.
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03:24 * wannabe1987 is finally home....
03:24 wannabe1987 its too quiet here :/
03:24 tonsofpcs egrsteve: see link.
03:26 tehdark45 wannabe1987, says the one who doesn't use mic :P
03:27 wannabe1987 what, you want me to get in ts?
03:27 wannabe1987 everyone i'd talk to (zozo or cpro) is muted/away
03:28 tehdark45 lol
03:28 tehdark45 lwq1996, where did you go
03:28 wannabe1987 yeah, you don't really count fyi :P
03:29 tonsofpcs you're muted too!
03:30 wannabe1987 thats cuz i just got home!
03:30 wannabe1987 i have to hook my mic up, the one on my computer doesn't work
03:31 tonsofpcs what does a mic have to do with speakers *confused*
03:31 wannabe1987 ha!  it works
03:31 wannabe1987 because i like it to go in my ear vs in the whole room....
03:31 tonsofpcs oh, i suppose it helps if i have the thing unmuted
03:31 wannabe1987 lots of things
03:31 wannabe1987 don't worry
03:32 wannabe1987 mmmmm jimmy johns :D
03:32 tonsofpcs never had it.
03:32 wannabe1987 also have leftover TGIF
03:32 tonsofpcs eh, TGIF turned to crap when they stopped letting them cook in their kitchens
03:34 tonsofpcs it's not my fault the mic is on the back of the tablet!
03:34 tonsofpcs also, the sleeve kinda blocks it and makes it more directional
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03:38 wannabe1987 sleeve?
03:38 tehdark45 wannabe1987, steves brother :P
03:39 wannabe1987 ??
03:40 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: the protective case
03:40 wannabe1987 o
03:40 wannabe1987 i see.
03:40 tonsofpcs http://www.target.com/p/Acer-A500C01-Protective-Case-for-Acer-Iconia-Tablet-Black/-/A-13472583?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&amp;AFID=Google_PLA_df&amp;LNM=|13472583&CPNG=electronics&ci_sku=13472583&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw=
03:40 BotSteve Title: Acer A500C01 Protective Case for Acer Iconia Tab... : Target
03:40 tonsofpcs tht thing
03:40 tonsofpcs *that
03:40 wannabe1987 my computer doesn't get protected from anything....just ask zozo :P
03:40 tonsofpcs stop breaking the power connector!
03:40 wannabe1987 ....
03:40 tehdark45 lol
03:41 wannabe1987 there that, plus it fell in the upstairs bedroom, and theres parts cracking/cracked off
03:41 wannabe1987 its in wonderful shape :D
03:41 wannabe1987 theres your issue, you has tablet!
03:42 egrsteve some should make a carbon fiber computer
03:42 egrsteve ie laptop
03:42 egrsteve or tablet
03:43 tonsofpcs egrsteve: Panasonic Toughbook not enough for you?
03:43 egrsteve never
03:43 tehdark45 egrsteve, im sure it is around, abut it prob costs more than a Mac :P
03:43 tehdark45 but*
03:43 tonsofpcs I have a computer that's bounced down half a flight of stairs while operating and still worked after the completion of its fall and power restoration.....
03:43 egrsteve a carbon fiber laptop could be sleek pretty and strong
03:44 tonsofpcs (it fell the whole way, the power cord came out hhalfway down)
03:44 egrsteve nice
03:44 egrsteve was it a tower?
03:44 tehdark45 were the concreate stairs?
03:44 tonsofpcs mind you, the 0.5" springs around the hdd probably help
03:44 tehdark45 thye
03:44 tehdark45 they*
03:44 tonsofpcs http://www.tonsofpcs.com/portable3/
03:44 BotSteve Title: Compaq Portable III
03:44 tonsofpcs it was that ^
03:44 egrsteve thast cheating
03:45 tehdark45 OH GOD TABLES :P
03:45 tonsofpcs how is that cheating
03:45 egrsteve they don't make them like that anymore
03:45 tonsofpcs they do.
03:46 tonsofpcs I mean, compaq doesn't, but some folks do
03:46 tonsofpcs I have a one-sheet on my desk at work for one.
03:46 egrsteve I couldn't get a system that rugged, with 1/2" springs on the hhd
03:47 * egrsteve fills a tower with great stuff, calls it shock proof
03:47 tehdark45 egrsteve, im sure the concreate computer is strong :P
03:47 wannabe1987 ....she got engaged.  sweet.  (not me, fyi.  that'd be really quick....)
03:47 egrsteve ya, and heavy
03:48 egrsteve come over here and help me move my "portable"
03:48 * egrsteve calls gelock to move PC
03:48 tonsofpcs egrsteve: hey, it has a comfort grip handle! (mostly because the 1/4" thick piece of sheet metal would cut you otherwise)
03:49 tonsofpcs (yes, it does weigh quite a bit)
03:49 tehdark45 wannabe1987, wrong chat?
03:49 tonsofpcs mobo is essentially a desktop mobo split in half and folded
03:49 wannabe1987 no
03:49 tonsofpcs yay family guy
03:51 tonsofpcs so, more pressing portable computer need:  I need a way to boot this PowerBook 170 by Tuesday, internal HDD seems shot... I do have a PPC (G3?) at worrk that might be able to write a mac floppy but idk if it can write the DSDD floppies...
03:51 wannabe1987 my moms status: "Someone at dinner tonight couldn't believe i have a 25 year old daughter!"  that'd....be me!
03:52 tehdark45 how old is your mom O_o
03:53 wannabe1987 47
03:53 wannabe1987 she doesn't look it tho...
03:55 tehdark45 my mom is 45
03:55 wannabe1987 someone onece asked if she was my sister....
03:56 tehdark45 lol
04:01 tonsofpcs wait, they're trying to sell a movie ("John Carter") as the story behind avatar?
04:01 wannabe1987 ?  why?
04:01 tonsofpcs do they really think that we missed fern gully or something?
04:04 wannabe1987 which avatar?
04:13 wannabe1987 theres the blue people and the people that move air/earth/fire/water around....
04:15 egrsteve the story behind avatar, it's pokahantas ?sp in space.
04:15 wannabe1987 mhm
04:15 wannabe1987 thats what someone told me....
04:16 egrsteve to call it original or even that good would be sad
04:16 egrsteve yes the colours were nice and the 3d annoying but I would not call it a epic must see movie
04:17 egrsteve it's only a the video store is out of all the other movies and I will not watch nipolian dynamite so I must watch avitar instead
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04:21 egrsteve I bet zozo agrees
04:22 astro73|alice ... why is my apt version of eclipse have no JDT?
04:22 * egrsteve doesn't know but sudgests killing it with FIRE
04:23 ajprog_laptop egrsteve: get ts3
04:23 egrsteve ts3?
04:23 ajprog_laptop team speak 3
04:24 egrsteve why?
04:24 ajprog_laptop it is fun
04:25 ajprog_laptop especially when don't want to type
04:25 egrsteve but it's will be dstracting when I am reading
04:26 egrsteve how can  finnish this series if I am talking
04:26 egrsteve I only have 4 books left, i think
04:27 ajprog_laptop series of what?
04:27 egrsteve wheel of time
04:27 wannabe1987 egrsteve: i think zozo's the one that told me it was a rip off of pocahantas....
04:28 egrsteve coul dbe
04:28 wannabe1987 my memory clearly fails me there....
04:29 egrsteve it's ok
04:30 egrsteve just burn stuff with fire and it will be better
04:30 egrsteve or take the kidwell aproach and blow it up
04:31 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427142_359734817400860_299687496738926_1094245_1965677080_n.jpg
04:32 astro73|alice i suggested that to my friend w/r/t minecraft, but he said just digging was faster
04:32 wannabe1987 we wanted to, the other night.....but....ended up not blowing up/incinerating the chair
04:34 wannabe1987 we ended*
04:35 egrsteve we just need to stuff the chair pad with anfo
04:35 wannabe1987 anfo?
04:35 egrsteve then boom
04:35 egrsteve .w ANFO
04:35 BotSteve "ANFO (or AN/FO, for ammonium nitrate/fuel oil) is a widely used bulk industrial explosive mixture." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANFO
04:35 wannabe1987 i see
04:36 egrsteve it's what mythbusters destroyed the cement truck with
04:36 egrsteve well abotu 500lbs worth
04:36 egrsteve a few should do to reduce a chair to nothing
04:37 wannabe1987 now we need to find land for this to happen upon, right?  i'm sure we could do it out by jeffs :P
04:37 egrsteve i doubt it
04:37 egrsteve maybe coopersville
04:37 egrsteve bettery yet would be a big quary
04:38 egrsteve or new mexico tech
04:38 wannabe1987 yeah, wheres one of them?
04:38 wannabe1987 lol
04:38 egrsteve at NM tech would could but it at the end of the rocket sled
04:38 egrsteve that would be fun too
04:43 * wannabe1987 just got called old-fashioned. HELP
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04:46 wannabe1987 wb
04:46 IsopropylAlcohol roar
04:46 wannabe1987 hi sashi :D
04:46 IsopropylAlcohol hey
04:46 IsopropylAlcohol I'm coming up tomorrow
04:47 wannabe1987 really?  i won't be there, zozo will be
04:47 wannabe1987 i'll be there tuesday, its my day off
04:47 IsopropylAlcohol i'm staying the night there so i'll see you tuersday
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04:47 IsopropylAlcohol tuesday*
04:47 wannabe1987 where you staying at?
04:47 wannabe1987 and hi speedrunnerG55!
04:47 IsopropylAlcohol probably prop a sleeping bag in the computer lab
04:48 wannabe1987 i see.
04:48 speedrunnerG55 Hi
04:48 wannabe1987 long time no see.  hows NJ?
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04:49 speedrunnerG55 Fine.
04:49 lwq1996 anyone know how to use teamspeak?
04:50 wannabe1987 yes
04:50 lwq1996 hey its speed havent seen you in a long time
04:50 wannabe1987 glad.  hows work/school?
04:50 speedrunnerG55 I've use mumble and vent. Sory never used that
04:50 lwq1996 ok matt sent me this ts3server://gamerxreviews.net
04:50 wannabe1987 mhm
04:50 lwq1996 how do i set it up
04:51 wannabe1987 PM
04:52 speedrunnerG55 Im applying to NJIT. Since i graduated tech school last september i hqvnt had mutch to do.
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04:54 wannabe1987 TOAST!
04:54 wannabe1987 new jersey IT?
04:55 Toastdude KELLY!
04:55 wannabe1987 how are you , my friend?
04:56 speedrunnerG55 Yes
04:59 wannabe1987 cool
05:03 egrsteve hmm
05:04 Toastdude Speed!
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05:09 speedrunnerG55 Toast!
05:10 wannabe1987 http://static.thepioneerwoman.com/files/2012/02/bacontable.jpg
05:11 speedrunnerG55 "Gay bacon strips gay bacon strips gay bacon strips"
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05:19 wannabe1987 wb
05:20 tehdark45 ji
05:20 tehdark45 hi*
05:22 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/jeriellsworth#p/u/40/vDyo_OQFdAc
05:22 BotSteve Title: jeriellsworth's Channel - YouTube
05:25 * wannabe1987 slaps YT around....
05:28 wannabe1987 IsopropylAlcohol
05:29 wannabe1987 nvm apparently you are in ts/vent :P
05:30 * wannabe1987 is watching the cb of gh 6/7
05:30 * egrsteve was there
05:30 wannabe1987 i saw you!
05:31 * egrsteve is shocked
05:31 wannabe1987 why
05:32 egrsteve sarcasm?
05:32 wannabe1987 ahhhh ok
05:34 wannabe1987 .seen BitViper|Bed
05:34 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw BitViper|Bed 2.50 hours ago at 2012-03-05 03:04:17 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:34:02 UTC
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05:38 wannabe1987 hi sero
05:41 einball good morning vietnam!
05:41 wannabe1987 morning german!
05:41 egrsteve good morning internets
05:42 * egrsteve comment can be made every hour
05:42 tehdark45 it is still sunday internets
05:42 tehdark45 :P
05:42 einball 0641 in here .. fucking late :(
05:42 tehdark45 early*
05:42 tehdark45 :P
05:42 einball not really tehdark45 ...
05:42 egrsteve late, early, all depends on perspective
05:42 tehdark45 yeah
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05:48 wannabe1987 puppy bridge!
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05:48 wannabe1987 hi mantere
05:48 einball tehdark45: is it?
05:48 einball so much to code in so little time
05:48 tehdark45 einball, is it what?
05:49 einball is it still sunday?
05:49 wannabe1987 no, its 00:49 am
05:49 mantere hello
05:49 einball http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=24&amp;offset=192#/d4r1q6z
05:49 einball :D
05:49 BotSteve Title: Browsing deviantART
05:49 einball It's 0549 UTC
05:49 einball so it is late
05:49 einball because it is 0549 MEZ or CET
05:51 tehdark45 it is still sunday
05:51 tehdark45 .t pst
05:51 BotSteve Sun, 04 Mar 2012 21:51:45 PST
05:51 tehdark45 :P
05:52 einball pst sucks!?
05:52 einball a real geek uses UTC -.-
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05:54 wannabe1987 lee!
05:54 tehdark45 if i used UTC i would be 9 hours ahead
05:54 tehdark45 >.<
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05:54 lwq_laptop teehee
05:54 lwq_laptop two laptops
05:54 lwq1996 hi lwq_laptop
05:54 Hydroelectric Afternoon all.
05:54 lwq_laptop hi lwq1996
05:54 einball tehdark45: it's always cool to be ahead :)
05:54 einball hi lwq_laptop
05:54 wannabe1987 same, but sarah's not online....
05:55 wannabe1987 hi Hydroelectric
05:55 einball and teh other lwq
05:55 einball and Hydroelectric
05:55 Hydroelectric Hey wannabe1987.
05:55 Hydroelectric Hey einball.
05:55 Hydroelectric Brb, need food asap.
05:56 * wannabe1987 slaps tehdark45 with a trout
05:57 * einball slaps tehdark45 with wannabe1987's trout
05:57 wannabe1987 lol
05:57 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg4Er28ExyA&amp;feature=g-u&amp;context=G27510f1FUAAAAAAABAA
05:57 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 3-3-12 GH6 and 7 Tour - YouTube
05:57 einball For goods :>
05:58 * egrsteve swaps wannabe1987's trout for a whale
05:58 * tehdark45 slaps wannabe1987 with my sausage
05:58 wannabe1987 you're not allowed to slap me!
05:58 tehdark45 said who?
05:58 tehdark45 :P
05:58 egrsteve use the Whale!
05:58 wannabe1987 lol
05:58 * wannabe1987 uses blue whale on tehdark45
05:58 * einball slaps tehdark45 around a bit with a hardcover Edition of "Mein Kampf"
05:59 einball wannabe1987: It's effectless
05:59 einball tehdark45: is confused
05:59 * tehdark45 uses wolly mammoth on wannabe1987 and einball
06:00 einball doooh fluffy <3
06:00 wannabe1987 IS SO CUTE!  i'm gonna die!
06:00 einball Lets have a mammoth barbecue
06:01 * einball fires the bbq with coal
06:01 wannabe1987 .seen druidic_rifleman
06:01 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Druidic_Rifleman 8.18 hours ago at 2012-03-04 21:50:28 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 06:01:33 UTC
06:01 tehdark45 einball, teamspeak!
06:03 einball not with my broken internetz
06:03 einball haha
06:03 * einball throws boxxy at tehdark45
06:03 wannabe1987 awwww
06:03 * einball flawless victory
06:04 einball :D
06:05 einball wtf, my internetz breaks all time
06:06 einball teh internetz :d
06:09 wannabe1987 .internet einball
06:09 wannabe1987 here you go einball, have 14 internets!
06:11 einball -.-
06:11 exor674 .cookie wannabe1987
06:11 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a white chocolate mocha cookie!
06:12 wannabe1987 nom!
06:15 einball ;)
06:15 einball frozen pizza :>
06:16 einball for lunch :>
06:16 * Hydroelectric is back and feeling not so hungry.
06:16 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zoAJehloA United as one! :D
06:16 BotSteve Title: Arion - Internet Rebellion (Fuck S.O.P.A) - YouTube
06:20 einball :o)
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06:25 wannabe1987 .seen astro73
06:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw astro73|alice 1.88 hours ago at 2012-03-05 04:32:04 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:25:10 UTC
06:25 wannabe1987 darn
06:25 astro73|alice hm?
06:25 wannabe1987 he should come back....
06:25 wannabe1987 hi
06:25 astro73|alice hi
06:27 wannabe1987 PM?
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06:28 Seroster Cat was scratching the treadmill...... I turned it on. It worked.
06:29 Hydroelectric Gah, stupid Religion assignment. You do you have to consume my time?
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06:30 tehdark45 Hydroelectric, dont do it? ;P
06:30 wannabe1987 what religion is it?
06:30 einball Hydroelectric: y u no believe in science god?
06:31 Seroster Hydroelectric, pray that Jahve will finish the assignment for you, that always works =)
06:31 tehdark45 Seroster, it is jihad >.<
06:31 tehdark45 :P
06:31 Hydroelectric The fact that I didn't hand in a draft makes me want to finish it so I can play with my UPS for a bit.
06:31 Seroster If you got a religious teacher just say "I had faith in God that he would do it for me." No way you get anything but an A.
06:31 Seroster If it is an atheist teacher he'll see through that bullshit and F your ass.
06:32 tehdark45 lol
06:32 Hydroelectric Seroster: If only it was that easy.
06:32 Seroster He's a pantheist?
06:32 einball he's a fucker? :D
06:32 Hydroelectric As a correction: "She".
06:33 wannabe1987 http://www.earthfootwear.com/p-56-the-saffron.aspx  want.  why are they so expensive?!
06:33 BotSteve Title: Earth Footwear | Step Into Wellness! - The Saffron
06:34 Hydroelectric How the hell do I relate war to me living a good life?
06:35 Seroster You killed off them aborenigies and now you got somewhere to live.
06:36 Hydroelectric Haha.
06:36 Hydroelectric Funny thing is that I have to speak it.
06:36 Seroster I'm serious.... =P
06:37 * Hydroelectric will be afk for a few minutes.
06:40 einball Hydroelectric: They died for your wealth :P
06:40 einball More people die -> less people to use the resources -> more resources for all
06:41 einball -> more childs get born -> use more resources -> less resources for all -> more people die
06:41 Seroster Childs > children
06:41 Seroster =)
06:41 einball War is a good way to kill other humans without any explanation
06:41 einball thanks Seroster
06:42 einball :)
06:42 Seroster .g how war has improved life
06:42 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.salon.com/2008/05/21/services/
06:42 einball I always get that wromg
06:42 lwq_laptop name a desktop controller that works on ubuntu that isnt teamviewer
06:42 Seroster I know the feeling
06:42 einball lwq_laptop: X Network features
06:43 einball lwq_laptop: rdp
06:43 lwq_laptop that require any skill?
06:43 einball lwq_laptop: vnc
06:43 einball http://www.codingdomain.com/linux/remote/x11/ e.g.
06:43 BotSteve Title: Codingdomain.com: Linux remote access using X11
06:44 lwq_laptop ok any programs like teamviewer
06:44 einball cnv
06:44 einball *vnc
06:44 wannabe1987 or team speak?
06:44 einball Remote hands wannabe1987 ? :P
06:44 wannabe1987 no
06:45 einball skype allows desktop control too I think.
06:45 wannabe1987 if you have ts issues, try ventrillo....theres a voice link....
06:45 lwq_laptop i need help with teamspeak thats why i need teamviewer
06:45 wannabe1987 from the ventrillo server to the ts server
06:45 einball wannabe1987: TS3? And it vanishes with a segfault? Or you get no sound?
06:46 wannabe1987 o
06:46 einball Then they did not fix the codec yet.
06:46 wannabe1987 i'm not having any issues...
06:46 einball They had several problems ....
06:46 einball I tabbed wrong .. the question will be forwarded to lwq_laptop in 3 2 1 ...
06:47 wannabe1987 lol
06:47 wannabe1987 i'm takling on ts as we type
06:48 Seroster cya folks
06:55 lwq-lappy-afk night guys
06:56 wannabe1987 night hun
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07:02 Toastdude .seen yNos
07:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw yNos 48.62 hours ago at 2012-03-03 06:25:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 07:02:35 UTC
07:03 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell yNos he finally found some diodes!
07:03 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
07:03 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
07:03 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
07:03 wannabe1987 http://failblog.org/2012/03/02/job-fails-monday-thru-friday-what-really-goes-on/
07:03 BotSteve Title: Monday Thru Friday: What Really Goes On - EPIC FAIL Funny Videos and Epic Fail Funny Pictures
07:13 lwq1996 later guys im going to bed for real this time
07:17 wannabe1987 DILF?  really?!
07:19 lwq1996 dilf?
07:21 wannabe1987 respond in PM
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07:36 tehdark45 lol wannabe1987
07:36 wannabe1987 ?
07:42 wannabe1987 tehdark45: i can't understand you, you're mumbled...
07:43 tehdark45 i said why dont they make machinces to help old people instead of people
07:44 wannabe1987 kuka robots?
07:46 tehdark45 yea
07:46 tehdark45 lol
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08:03 Electricguy morning :)
08:06 wannabe1987 hi
08:22 wannabe1987 .
08:25 * Hydroelectric is back and needs to finish his assignment for tomorrow, but can't be bothered.
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08:25 Hydroelectric I don't really like the look of Ubuntu 11.04. It's annoying to deal with the sidebar.
08:28 wannabe1987 http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/396523_389124787771735_280040715346810_1740962_1892248762_n.jpg
08:36 Electricguy dafuq!?
08:40 Hydroelectric Stupid social networking, why must you continuously distract me?
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08:41 Experimentonomen guten morgen PEEPZ
08:41 Electricguy 'lo
08:41 * Experimentonomen looks datasheet on the 18650 lithium ion cell
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08:44 tehdark45 ahhh the other BCer
08:46 Electricguy i gotaa find a box for the headphone amp..
08:50 ElectricguyLab stream is up.. www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
08:51 Experimentonomen im uploading a vid of a test i did before i went to be yesterday
09:01 einball wtf xD ... My colleague is awesome :D
09:02 einball if(sContext.Penis==TRUE) [...] < Penis as a test variable in a struct ... awesome ... I hope the boss won't see it :D
09:02 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdqRE9lOMCc
09:02 BotSteve Title: Prototype headphone amplifier - YouTube
09:02 einball A quite unique way to code things :D
09:10 angy morning
09:10 Toastdude Angy!
09:11 angy Toasty!
09:11 * Toastdude hugs angy
09:11 * angy hugs Toastdude
09:14 Electricguy damn amazing that a apair of NE5534's can play really juicy low dubstep bass pretty damn loud in a pair if 16Ohm headphones without disting! o_O
09:15 tehdark45 hi internets
09:18 einball Electricguy: they are designed for ~1,5W output power :D
09:24 Experimentonomen hm turns out my headphones are actually between 200 and 300 ohms O_o
09:55 tehdark45 O_O
10:01 Hydroelectric Ah Twitter, the one distraction I can't seem to resist (besides Facebook).
10:02 Hydroelectric Social Networking wise.
10:03 Hydroelectric Dinner time apparently. Be back later.
10:24 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ddkfVQ1Gg
10:24 BotSteve Title: hpamp battery power - YouTube
11:25 * Experimentonomen sketches on a liion charger that will charge at a constant current of around 1.5A and will co constant voltage mode at 4.2V per cell or about 25.2V for the pack of 6 cells in series
11:26 exor674 bleh, has anyone seen csmonster/kate recently?
11:26 exor674 or know how to reach her?
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12:13 Experimentonomen woot! the minimum voltage of 19V on the dc/dc module just happens to be 100mV avover the minimum cutoff voltage for six 18650 cells in series :D
12:14 Experimentonomen above*
12:22 Experimentonomen einball einball einball einball
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12:26 Electricguy yay! the headphone amp is working :)
12:26 Electricguy aweosme
12:26 Electricguy awesome*
12:27 Experimentonomen Electricguy, i wonder where einball got that 1.5W figure
12:27 Electricguy yeah..
12:27 Electricguy 1.5W from a OP amp sounds waaay over the edge
12:27 Electricguy i'd say around 100mW
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12:28 Experimentonomen yeh, little dil package cant dissipate even 500mW
12:28 Electricguy nah
12:28 Electricguy the TBA8020A is rated to 1Watt
12:28 Electricguy i have tested it on around 1Watt... it didn't survive without external cooling
12:29 Experimentonomen the BD139/140 i used in my hp amp prototype gets hot enuf to melt solder, and that at a total power output of half a watt and a few mA bias current
12:29 Electricguy lol yeah
12:29 Electricguy and the NE5534 is not classed as a power amp
12:29 Experimentonomen im suprised they havent failed without heatsinks :o
12:31 Experimentonomen i have a NE5532 somerwhere that i'll use for the stereo version of my hp amp
12:31 Electricguy einball?
12:31 Experimentonomen and i went to the local fresks xl bygg, smallest threaded rod they had was M9
12:31 Experimentonomen M8*
12:31 Electricguy darn
12:38 Electricguy my computer desk is starting ti turn into some sort of rack-ish thing XD
12:39 Electricguy it's just a hole left that i can move the mouse in... :P
12:39 Experimentonomen hm
12:41 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ddkfVQ1Gg
12:41 BotSteve Title: hpamp battery power - YouTube
12:44 Electricguy but, if your headphones are around 300 Ohms.. try with only a NE5532
12:44 Electricguy might sound better than the transistor stage
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13:10 * yNos smiles
13:10 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
13:10 BotSteve At 07:03Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell ynos he finally found some diodes!
13:10 yNos :D
13:10 angy .cookie yNos
13:10 BotSteve Here you go, yNos, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
13:10 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
13:11 yNos hiya
13:11 Electricguy howdy yNos
13:11 Sgt_Lemming how goes it?
13:11 yNos how are things down there?
13:11 yNos not bad here
13:11 Sgt_Lemming pretty good, we held a soldering workshop here over the weekend
13:11 yNos just another day in paradise
13:11 Sgt_Lemming went pretty well
13:11 Sgt_Lemming http://www.meetup.com/hackbne/photos/
13:11 BotSteve Title: All Photo Albums - Hackerspace Brisbane (Brisbane) - Meetup
13:12 yNos cool
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13:12 Hydroelectric Laptop = Successful relocation.
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13:14 Electricguy congratz
13:24 yNos so how many arduino clones did you end up getting made?
13:26 Sgt_Lemming 14
13:28 Sgt_Lemming yNos, considering making an SMD version of the RFID controller
13:28 Sgt_Lemming should be even smaller
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13:47 yNos Cool
13:47 Electricguy i really like my new headphone amp :P
13:48 Electricguy thinking about making a battery powered version
13:55 yNos anywone here know ABAP?
13:55 yNos And want to work for a large furniture company..
13:55 angy allgemeiner berichts-aufbesomethign?
13:56 yNos AnotherBrokenAssProgramming language
13:56 angy that does it as weel
13:57 angy some weird sap module
13:57 yNos it is what SAP is based off of.
13:57 yNos at least the non-java abap
13:58 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, I have an amp in the works
13:58 angy what it used to be based off, I think they branch out of it
13:58 Electricguy sgt, okey! :)
13:58 Sgt_Lemming usb charged, li-ion battery, class D
13:58 yNos they broke away from abap, then came back to it
13:58 Electricguy mkay
13:59 Sgt_Lemming 8mm thick, rotary encoder interface with EQ onboard
13:59 Electricguy cladd D's are good for high efficiency, but they don't sound that good
13:59 angy our version here can run abap/4 weirdly
13:59 Electricguy class*
13:59 Sgt_Lemming that depends a lot on the amp
14:00 Electricguy true. if the amp high a very high carrier freq it's pretty ok. but most class D amps doesn't have that and tend to dist in the higher register
14:00 Sgt_Lemming this ones 1.4MHz :-P
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14:01 Electricguy that sounds like a good thing
14:01 * Sgt_Lemming nods
14:01 Sgt_Lemming 3.7v to 5v step up switcher
14:01 Sgt_Lemming so it can run off a single lipo cell
14:02 Electricguy that's very nice :)
14:04 Sgt_Lemming the other battery system I am working on is slightly larger...
14:05 Sgt_Lemming 29.6v nominal, 42Ah
14:08 Electricguy hehe okey :P
14:08 Electricguy to be used for?
14:08 Sgt_Lemming Electric Skateboard
14:08 Electricguy lol, nice :P
14:12 Sgt_Lemming capable of 80A continuous discharge rate
14:12 Electricguy ok :)
14:14 Sgt_Lemming there is another cell I looked at using, but I would need to use 32 of them >_<
14:14 Sgt_Lemming wiring NIGHTMARE
14:14 Electricguy holy balls
14:15 Sgt_Lemming but the cells would allow me to pull 320A continuous, 400A pulse
14:15 Sgt_Lemming that's 12Kw :-D
14:15 Electricguy :D
14:15 Electricguy A123 clles?
14:15 Sgt_Lemming HAH!
14:15 Sgt_Lemming no, A123 are tiny
14:15 Electricguy oki ^^
14:17 Electricguy swedish diy e-bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERgkqutd6m8
14:17 BotSteve Title: Fagge´s Power arc, nu med alla hästar hemma - YouTube
14:17 Electricguy built on a mountainbike
14:17 Electricguy 24 Headway H-38120S cells
14:17 Sgt_Lemming http://www.batteryspace.com/High-Power-LFP-Polymer-Cell-3.2V-20Ah-100122200-2C-64Wh-40A-rate.aspx <---- oooh, that's new
14:18 BotSteve Title: High Power LFP Polymer Cell: 3.2V 20Ah (100122200-2C, 64Wh, 40A rate) UN Approved (DGR)
14:18 Sgt_Lemming and NICE!
14:19 Electricguy nice cells :)
14:20 Electricguy in this video you can see the bike a little http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW9GAaqkPKk&amp;feature=related
14:20 BotSteve Title: Fagge´s Power-Arc first test - YouTube
14:31 yNos too cool! http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/official-list-of-words-feds-monitor-on.html
14:31 BotSteve Title: Activist Post: Official List Of Words Feds Monitor On Social Networking Sites
14:39 yNos http://www.freewoodpost.com/2011/09/12/michele-bachmann-seeks-to-ban-masturbation-and-menstruation/
14:39 BotSteve Title: Free Wood Post
14:39 yNos what?
14:41 dr_jkl oh go fuck yourself that's a parody site
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14:42 dr_jkl articles like that make me want to give out free handies all week
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15:00 yNos i lol'd so hard
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15:00 yNos free handies, eh?
15:03 Cheezmo my exact thought, yNos
15:05 * yNos hops in the car and drives blindly south..
15:05 yNos lol
15:06 Seroster *COUGH*
15:06 Seroster That sounds liek a topic for nsfw
15:06 BitViper|Bed why, he's talking about handi-talkies right ynos ? *cough*
15:07 yNos Yeah, i need a new HT
15:07 * yNos ahem
15:08 * BitViper|Bed has a coughing fit
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15:08 Seroster ...Right.
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15:17 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbp_tBCQ3vI
15:17 BotSteve Title: Stereo headphone amplifier - YouTube
15:20 Experimentonomen todays accomplishment
15:42 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/Y91s5
15:42 BotSteve Title: Headphoeamp - Imgur
15:51 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: what IC?
15:51 tonsofpcs and what are those, FETs?
15:52 Experimentonomen ne5532, BD139 AND BD140
15:52 einball Electricguy: Experimentonomen the NE55blarg is able to deliver 1,5Watt ...
15:53 einball pretty tired iam
15:54 Experimentonomen einball, bs!! show me the spec in the datasheet that sez 1.5W, cuz i cannot find it
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15:55 tonsofpcs ah, class A?
15:55 Experimentonomen nope
15:55 tonsofpcs or is it a pushpull?
15:55 Sasha__ Hello :)
15:55 Sasha__ So who's an arduino expert here?
15:55 Experimentonomen class ab on the verge of class b
15:55 tonsofpcs Sasha__: arduino experts are all too busy playing with their arduinos to talk on irc ;)
15:56 Sasha__ *or someone who knows a thing or three about arduino's
15:56 einball LM386-4 is rated for 1 Watt
15:56 einball that was the OpAmp I thought of
15:57 Electricguy no fucking way.. the NE5534 is NOT a power amplifier and can't give 1.5Watts out...
15:57 tonsofpcs 26 V out, 600ohm...
15:57 Experimentonomen lm386 = trash, only use is for the bleeps and bloops in a gameboy and such
15:58 einball Or maybe for the Solf Transceiver? ;)
15:58 Sasha__ So anyways, I have compiled a list of things I'd like to buy for arduino, I just want to make sure that they will actually work with one: LM386-4
15:58 Sasha__ I meant: http://www.mediafire.com/?lp3wvi0vobxv4b5
15:58 BotSteve Title: Arduino buy.pdf
15:58 einball LOL :D
15:58 tonsofpcs the LM386 is a decent line driver...
15:59 Electricguy it still sounds like shit though
16:00 einball blah blah blah -.-
16:00 Electricguy my NE5534 headphone amp turned out great at least. so i'm happy :)
16:01 Electricguy but the LM386 DO sound like crap.. it's just a simple fact :P it's not a high quality amplifier
16:01 tonsofpcs Electricguy: yea, it's got a distortion curve that is essentially an inverted A-weighting curve
16:02 Electricguy i understood about half of that. but ok :)
16:02 Electricguy what's a A-weighting curve?
16:02 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-weighting << first picture, blue line (plus the dashes)
16:02 BotSteve Title: A-weighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:02 tonsofpcs flip that over and that's the distortion curve of the LM386, with minimal distortion around 500Hz-2kHz
16:03 Electricguy ahh! i think i understand
16:03 tonsofpcs which is why it works for gameboy and such, because the parts of the audio it makes sound like crap are the parts that we don't hear well to begin with which the sound designers tend to shy away from
16:04 einball tonsofpcs: great for SSB
16:06 Sasha__ Soooooo... anyways, any tips about the arduino hardware?
16:06 Electricguy tips about what?
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16:06 Electricguy improvements, bugs?
16:07 Sasha__ What stuff to buy... I made a list (http://www.mediafire.com/?lp3wvi0vobxv4b5), and I just need to know whether there are certain things that I should avoid
16:07 BotSteve Title: Arduino buy.pdf
16:08 Electricguy a shield that's VERY handy is the screw terminal shield from sparkfun
16:08 Electricguy i got one and it's extremely useful
16:08 Electricguy also a protoshield with a breadboard
16:09 Electricguy here is my arduino with the screw terminal shield and a protoshield  http://i.imgur.com/hnVWs.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/iskBx.jpg
16:09 Sasha__ Is there one on ebay?
16:09 Electricguy the protoshield comes from dealextreme
16:09 Electricguy maybe
16:10 Electricguy search for arduino screwshield or something
16:10 Electricguy otherwise you can get it from sparkfun
16:10 Electricguy ok, brb!
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16:14 Sasha__ Afaik I just killed a vibrator
16:14 Sasha__ It smells really funky
16:22 exor674 I ask again cause more people are awake, has anyone seen CSMonster or know how to reach her?
16:22 Sasha__ nop
16:23 tonsofpcs .seen csmonster
16:24 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw Katemonster 84.45 hours ago at 2012-03-02 03:57:00 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:24:00 UTC
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16:55 Seroster .c 40/12
16:55 BotSteve 3.33333333
16:56 Seroster .c 3.333333/60
16:56 BotSteve 0.05555555
16:56 Hackbat .c ans*40
16:56 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
16:56 Electricguy ok, back
16:56 angy fail!
16:56 Seroster Compressor lost 4bar over 12h
16:57 Seroster 0.05l is my leakage per minute
16:57 Seroster That's five centiliters, or about a shot glass.
16:57 angy your calculation don't seems fine for me
16:57 angy but it's a long time since I've done hydraulic/pneumatic
16:58 Seroster Why not?
16:58 Seroster 10 liters of air at 4 bar is 40 liters
16:58 Seroster To know liters per hour you divide liters with hours
16:59 angy it's not linear as that
17:00 Seroster Oh yes it is
17:00 Seroster Well maybe not THAT linear, but still within 10%
17:00 Electricguy linear enough :P
17:00 angy oh, if you get 10% margin of error, it should be into that
17:01 Seroster I know it leaks more at higher pressures, I just wanted an estimate of leakage per minute
17:01 Seroster .c 0.05555/60
17:01 BotSteve 0.000925833333
17:01 Seroster That would be 0.09cl /min or 9ml per min
17:02 Seroster I don't think that's a leak I could find without submersing the entire damn compressor
17:02 angy 4bar in 12h, but what is the starting presure?
17:03 Seroster From 16 to 12 with a 6+4l tank
17:03 Seroster And a lot of PTFE tape abuse.
17:07 angy I would says that your leakage is quite bigger than what you calculate
17:07 Electricguy just agree with angy and it's all good.. xD
17:07 angy but you may not be able to find it because it's average to loose that just into the manometric contactor
17:08 Seroster Not hearing a hiss and no bubbles around joints
17:08 Seroster I know it's not in the pressure switch, it was completely tight before
17:08 angy I would go look more closely to other parts than joints
17:09 angy I would say that it's a valve or a switch more than a joint
17:09 Seroster Valves are joints...
17:10 Electricguy no. valves are valves. but they have joints
17:10 Seroster I.E parts that I check for leaks
17:11 Electricguy dump the whole compressor in water and look for bubbles! ;)
17:11 angy I'm pretty sure the compressor we used a lot leaked more than that, and we never cared as much as you do
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17:17 Seroster angy, This one is a small volume high pressure compressor, I want it to work up to 16BAR and stay there for a weel
17:17 angy for a week?
17:18 angy I would say that's not possible, the compressor itself (piston, right?) will leak too much for that
17:18 Seroster Oh no
17:18 Seroster Screw
17:19 Seroster Not to mention it got a one way valve between the compressor and the tank
17:19 angy screws is better
17:19 Seroster More air per cash unit for a piston
17:19 angy but I'm not sure that it's doable to have it stay a week at 16bar
17:19 angy not really, depend on the design
17:19 angy more efficient for high output
17:20 angy but it should stay at 16bar for at least a few hours (like 10-20h)
17:21 Seroster If it doesn't leak in a day it won't leak in a week =P
17:21 angy if it leak slowly, you won't notice a day
17:21 angy you will a week
17:21 angy (and it will leak ;)
17:22 angy how does it get worse, if it get worse
17:22 Seroster I'm concerned the air might be diffusing through the PTFE tape
17:23 angy at 16 bar, it's a possibility
17:23 angy what color is your tape?
17:23 Seroster White
17:23 angy if white, it's not good
17:23 Seroster =D
17:23 Seroster Racist.
17:23 angy and proud of it!
17:23 angy :p
17:23 Seroster WHen I got the compressor it had no oil, a siezed shaft and 4 liters of water in the 4 liter tank.
17:23 angy you should try to find black one, usually performs better
17:23 * Experimentonomen wraps up angy in ptfe tape
17:24 angy Experimentonomen: I may like it ;)
17:24 angy it's not that unusual to find that type of compressor sized
17:24 Seroster It ran a book sorting robot at the library my mother worked, and had done that for a year or two when it broke down. They hadnt recieved any instructions to empty the fuckingtank
17:24 angy a lot of preson don't really care as they should for it
17:24 Seroster Some service dudes came and poked it, noticed it didnt work and just changed it for another one
17:25 angy nice way to get a perfectly functional compressor!
17:25 Seroster My beloved mom grabbed the compressor, I poured out the water, drenched the shaft in WD40, said "fuck it" and turned the shaft with a pair of vice grips.
17:25 angy viking mom!
17:26 Seroster Then cleaned out all the parts, removed crud from the internal workings of the compressor, poured proper oil in it and put it back together.
17:26 Seroster It's a 200+ euro compressor that I didn't get for next to nothing, I actually got it for NOTHING! =D
17:26 angy if I recall well, screw compressor tends to need a lot of oil care
17:26 Seroster This one hasn't got ball bearings holding the shaft
17:27 angy the one we used had oil recuperation after the compressor, and recirculation of it
17:27 angy that was pretty fun
17:27 Seroster Wow
17:27 Seroster This one has lost no oil at all since I got it
17:27 angy we needed to have the air super dry, oil free and heavily filtered. the installation was quite awesome
17:28 angy check it for when it's going to get all slushy, and change it
17:28 angy (before all slushy that is)
17:28 Seroster Btw, I shudder at the thought of how the pistons in the book robot looks, there was no water seperator between the comp and the robot =)
17:28 angy that can be so funny
17:28 angy damp books :p
17:28 Seroster I hope the entire fucking machine breaks so I can get the parts xD
17:29 angy you could sort your personal library :p
17:29 Seroster lol
17:29 Experimentonomen well this headphone amp is a bit of a failure, its so harch sounding :/
17:29 angy may be even funnier if the internal part of the cylinder is not rustless
17:30 Seroster Lol
17:30 Seroster If I get a heap of pneumatic goodies imma build automatic sex toys.
17:30 angy oil, water & rust power machine
17:30 angy you get a patent for that
17:31 Experimentonomen snuskhummer!!! :P
17:33 Seroster Hur kan man motstå pneumatiska knullleksaker?
17:34 * Experimentonomen hides behind Electricguy
17:34 angy he will need someone to test, eventually
17:34 angy (don't be afraid of rust then)
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17:48 Sasha__ I just made one of these http://hackaday.com/2012/03/01/klackerlaken-gets-the-common-man-excited-about-electronics/#more-68340 :D
17:48 BotSteve Title: Klackerlaken gets the common man excited about electronics - Hack a Day
17:50 Experimentonomen hm
17:51 Sasha__ Are there any arduino experts now?
17:52 Electricguy what exactly are you searching an answer for? :P
17:53 Sasha__ Well, I just want to know whether I should buy the arduino accessories/modules that I have listed... I am a total newb when it comes to compatibility and stuff, so I really don't want to buy something that won't work with a few lines of code
17:53 Sasha__ Here is the list again: http://www.mediafire.com/?lp3wvi0vobxv4b5
17:53 BotSteve Title: Arduino buy.pdf
17:55 Electricguy from what i can see it's pretty simple stuff. so it shouldn't be any problem
17:56 Electricguy there are lots of tutorials and libraries for a lot of stuff
17:57 Sasha__ Yeah, well, that's reading for when I get them. Meanwhile I am stuck between choosing the SD card module: one of them has like 10 pins, the other only 6, and the IO shield has a 6 pin SD card thing aswell
17:57 Electricguy i'd say the 6 pin then
17:58 Electricguy as it might be more compatible with the io shield
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18:10 mashpriborintorg hiya
18:10 mashpriborintorg having beer, at least
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18:13 Ponko hmm
18:25 Sasha__ I'm just curious, is there a field of prostitues in front of your local hackerspace(s)?
18:27 mashpriborintorg lol
18:42 yNos wut?
18:43 angy tuw
18:44 mashpriborintorg I'm dying to receive my Arduino :p
18:45 yNos am dying to gtfo from here..
18:46 angy stop by here, cooking is en route
18:46 mashpriborintorg my job is overboring also
18:47 mashpriborintorg and my boss is even worse
18:47 Seroster This $4 USB coffe heater sucks xD
18:48 mashpriborintorg what could you expect else for that prise
18:49 mashpriborintorg *price
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18:50 Sasha__ yNos: Just shows how epic the local hackerspace is :P
18:51 Sasha__ BTW, mashpriborintorg, same here (with my arduino stuff :D)
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18:52 mashpriborintorg I ordered a breadboard, an Arduino Uno and a lol shield form different sources, just received the breadnoard for now
18:52 mashpriborintorg lolshield is 10mm white leds :p
18:53 Experimentonomen mash: http://imgur.com/a/Y91s5
18:53 BotSteve Title: Headphoeamp - Imgur
18:54 Sasha__ Wow you're really death :P
18:54 Sasha__ *deaf
18:54 Experimentonomen ?
18:54 Sasha__ That is quite a beefy amp
18:55 Experimentonomen nah
18:55 Experimentonomen some headphones to require quite high
18:55 Experimentonomen voltage swing
18:55 Experimentonomen and power
18:56 Experimentonomen these cans are not loud until ur at 300 milliwatts per channel
18:56 mashpriborintorg I remember connecting headphones to a GRC-9 military tube received, through a WW2 vintage  impedance transformer
18:56 Sasha__ Sowhy do you need an arduino for that :P?
18:56 mashpriborintorg sound was quite shitty
18:57 mashpriborintorg with an antenna wire all the way acress the backyard, I was received Radio Korea quite well
18:58 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbp_tBCQ3vI
18:58 BotSteve Title: Stereo headphone amplifier - YouTube
18:59 yNos lol
18:59 yNos http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/202776/14/Detroit-area-woman-terrorized-by-turkey-
18:59 BotSteve Title: Detroit-area woman terrorized by turkey | wzzm13.com
19:00 yNos i'd have him for dinner
19:00 mashpriborintorg wtf, a turkey is even dumber than a chicken
19:01 yNos wild ones are not that dumb
19:01 yNos tame ones are.
19:01 yNos i have seen wild ones get into trash bins..
19:01 mashpriborintorg but they are all ugly at the same level :p
19:03 mashpriborintorg if you remove the head, it's almost ok...
19:05 yNos they taste better than they look
19:08 mashpriborintorg same with lobsters or king crabs, if you look closely at them you figure out that they are freaky monters :D
19:10 yNos nothing a machete cant fix.
19:11 mashpriborintorg or some boiling water
19:12 angy lobsters are not that ugly
19:13 mashpriborintorg say that to all the cute little fishes they eat :p
19:13 angy I don't like fishes ;)
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19:16 Seroster http://www.biltema.se/sv/Verktyg/Tryckluft/Verktyg/Slipmaskin/Rak-slipmaskin-15468/ I want to rub it with sun tan lotion... =)
19:16 BotSteve Title: Rak slipmaskin - Biltema
19:16 Seroster angy, I found a problem with my extra tank
19:16 angy that's good news
19:16 Seroster It's on the actual line
19:17 Seroster Compressor - tank (safety stuff) - manometer - valve - line - tank - line - gun
19:17 Seroster Wich means I have no way of pressure regulating a machine
19:18 angy external regulation, but definitly not to 16bar
19:18 Seroster Because if I run the machine at its rated 8bar I will have 80l in the tank instead of 160
19:19 angy you would be able to run regulated at 8bar
19:19 Seroster It isnt a fast compressor
19:20 angy it should work
19:21 angy you won't have to keep your compressor tanks at 8bar
19:21 angy you can have them at 12-14bar, then regulate out to 8bar
19:21 Seroster Hm
19:21 Seroster I just need an in line choke
19:21 angy at the lab, the air supply is 40bar
19:21 angy all what we use is 2-10bar
19:22 Seroster Wich lab?
19:22 angy the one I'm currently working at
19:23 yNos .weather tgg
19:23 BotSteve Cloudy, 28.4℉ (-2℃), 30.30in (1023mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KGRR 18:53Z
19:26 angy I think there are only the plastic weirding machines working at 40bar, but the whole supply is 40bar everywhere
19:26 yNos thats a lot of pressure
19:26 angy 40bar lines are usual for heavy industries
19:27 yNos like... in the 500s.. 575/590 psi...
19:28 angy 580
19:28 yNos damn
19:29 yNos can imagine fluid at that pressure.. but not air..
19:29 angy .-
19:29 angy :)
19:29 angy really not that unusual
19:32 yNos no?
19:32 angy I have seen it at most of the industries I were
19:33 yNos rarely do i see compressors for more than 90psi/8bar
19:33 Monkeh I've seen that sort of pressure. And it doesn't take magic pipe either.
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19:51 Electricguy honk chiå
19:51 Electricguy Chipguy,
19:51 Electricguy damn keyboard
19:51 Chipguy lol
19:51 Chipguy hey electricguy :)
19:51 Electricguy brb! coffee! :3
19:52 Chipguy oki
19:52 Experimentonomen guten tag herr chipguy
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19:53 Toastdude Hi
19:53 angy Toasty!
19:53 Toastdude Angy!
19:53 * angy hugs Toastdude
19:53 * Toastdude hugs angy
19:55 Electricguy TOAST!
19:55 Electricguy :D
19:55 * Electricguy has some toast to his coffee
19:55 Toastdude Electricguy!
20:01 yNos Toastdude: so what diodes did you get?
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20:06 Toastdude I only got the black and silver kind... But 5 of them!
20:07 yNos do they have any markings on them?
20:08 yNos prolly just plain jane Si diodes.
20:08 yNos assuming 4 of them?
20:09 yNos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode_bridge
20:09 BotSteve Title: Diode bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:09 yNos could make a powersupply
20:10 Toastdude Actually 8...
20:10 Electricguy who the F is Jane? :P
20:10 Toastdude Seven 8NB, one RK34
20:11 Electricguy sounds like some old diodes
20:11 Experimentonomen .cookie Chipguy
20:11 BotSteve Here you go, Chipguy, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
20:11 yNos what is the number before 8NB?
20:11 mashpriborintorg may be even germanium diodes
20:12 Toastdude All they say is 8nb
20:12 Experimentonomen can them
20:12 Experimentonomen :P
20:12 Electricguy .insult Chipguy
20:12 BotSteve Hey, Electricguy, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
20:13 yNos looks like RK34 is a schottkey diode..
20:13 Electricguy -,-
20:13 Chipguy ???
20:13 Electricguy nvm.. fail XD
20:13 Electricguy .tfwc Kalmar
20:13 BotSteve 1 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Kalmar, !  'Fresh off the tap.'
20:14 Electricguy wrong.. it's -0.8C here
20:14 mashpriborintorg I beat you, 1,3C
20:15 Electricguy darn!
20:17 Toastdude Will they work in a radio?
20:18 Chipguy .insult Electricguy
20:18 BotSteve Hey, Chipguy, how many different kinds of stupid are you trying to be?
20:18 Electricguy nah.. doesn't work to direct it! :/
20:18 Electricguy we need that function! :P
20:18 Chipguy lol
20:19 Electricguy Toastdude, if it's a germanium diode you can build a diode radio receiver :)
20:19 Electricguy or, crystal radio as it's also called
20:20 Experimentonomen Chipguy, http://imgur.com/a/Y91s5
20:20 BotSteve Title: Headphoeamp - Imgur
20:22 Electricguy i need to build this! http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27620/
20:22 BotSteve Title: How to Build a Speech-Jamming Gun - Technology Review
20:23 Electricguy ok, need to finish my sonic deathray gun first..
20:24 Experimentonomen hm
20:26 Toastdude I also have a few very small transformers (3/4")
20:28 Monkeh Toastdude: Diodes are dirt cheap.
20:28 Electricguy yeah
20:29 mashpriborintorg so are resistors, regular 1/4 watt carbon resistors are 0,04 euros each at my local retailer
20:30 Electricguy no CB yet.. :/
20:30 Monkeh Most basic components are cheap.
20:30 Monkeh It's putting them together into something useful which costs (see: Custom PCBs)
20:31 mashpriborintorg but less usual parts can get really expensive, check the prices for inteliigent led displays, as the TL311
20:33 mashpriborintorg or the HDSP series dot matrix led displays... send 4 of these at the lab almost 1 year ago
20:34 mashpriborintorg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/4497177067/
20:34 BotSteve Title: LED dot matrix display 1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
20:34 Electricguy cool
20:35 mashpriborintorg they are used in some old radio transceivers that appears almost free in flea markers here
20:36 mashpriborintorg last time, got 2 of these radios for 5 euros, 200 euros worth of displays inside, not counting all the other parts
20:37 mashpriborintorg these radios: http://cgi.ebay.fr/Deux-Talco-CS3-UHF-/320856296992?pt=FR_YO_MaisonJardin_Bricolage_ElectroniqueComposants&amp;hash=item4ab4868e20
20:37 BotSteve Title: eBay | Deux Talco CS3 UHF
20:41 yNos The hardest part of a crystal radio is the speaker.. unleass you build an amp around it.
20:41 yNos Electricguy
20:41 yNos Toastdude:
20:41 Electricguy yes?
20:41 yNos about the crystal radio thing above...
20:41 Electricguy ahh. yes. a audio amp isd a good idea
20:41 Electricguy is*
20:41 yNos I would love to find a howto for making a crystal earpiece..
20:42 Electricguy any piezo earpiece works. but the volume is a bit low
20:42 yNos as for amps.. i like simple 3 transistor push pulls for audio quality and power.
20:42 Electricguy yeah
20:42 Electricguy or a op amp and some type of chipamp
20:43 yNos that is good too.
20:44 Electricguy yeah it works
20:44 Electricguy i have to try with a NE5534 and a pair of headphones sometime :P
20:44 Electricguy as i found out yesterday that a NE5534 can drive headphones very nicely
20:44 Electricguy or actually, a pair of NE5534
20:45 Electricguy but one should do for mono if you connect the headphones in series
20:45 yNos really?
20:45 Electricguy yepp
20:45 Electricguy i made a headphone amp today with a pair of NE5534 op amps
20:46 Electricguy it's doing a AWESOME job for being a op amp
20:46 yNos http://www.qrp.pops.net/AF-Basics.asp
20:46 BotSteve Title: AF Power Amps
20:46 Electricguy i can play heavy juicy dubstep bass really loud without any noticable dist
20:46 yNos nice
20:46 Electricguy yeah
20:46 yNos i will have to give that a try
20:46 Electricguy sounds really good
20:46 Electricguy yeah, it's totally worth it
20:47 Electricguy i'm using a +-12V PSU
20:47 Electricguy just a small PSU from a computer
20:47 yNos but for now, i must go home
20:47 yNos later all
20:47 Electricguy and just a regular setup like this http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/circuits/opamp_basics/op-amp_basic_inv.gif
20:47 Electricguy oh ok, cya! :)
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20:53 Electricguy lulz. fail http://www.damnlol.com/i/9ae4b84f7b84dde2a397317d5f3dbb34.jpg
20:53 Electricguy hi hi wannabe-werk :)
20:54 wannabe-werk hi
20:55 astro73|alice_ ohai
20:55 Experimentonomen g'evenin miss wannabe
20:58 wannabe-werk hi astro.  my landlords are switching ISP's so it died at 4am this morning and won't e back till weds....
20:59 wannabe-werk why they didn't tell us, I DON"T KNOW
20:59 wannabe-werk my body is rebelling....
20:59 wannabe-werk holy crap PAIn
20:59 Electricguy that's SO not okey!
21:01 wannabe-werk no, its not.....i want my internet back.
21:01 Toastdude Kelly!
21:02 astro73|alice_ wannabe-werk: none of that is cool
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21:05 angy wb hackyboy
21:05 wannabe-werk yeah
21:05 wannabe-werk wheres zozo?!
21:05 wannabe-werk ....
21:05 Electricguy asleep, perhaps :P
21:05 wannabe-werk i'll have to text him later then i guess
21:05 wannabe-werk no....he's at the lab, last i checked
21:06 wannabe-werk he was battling cameras
21:06 Electricguy ahh oki
21:06 Electricguy lol ok :D
21:06 wannabe-werk hi Toastdude
21:07 wannabe-werk .seen guardianzozo
21:07 BotSteve wannabe-werk: I last saw Guardianzozo 20.72 hours ago at 2012-03-05 00:24:00 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:07:00 UTC
21:07 wannabe-werk darn
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21:09 wannabe-werk hi AgCNO6  then....find
21:09 wannabe-werk e*
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21:16 * wannabe-werk has to go to work now
21:17 wannabe-werk bye!
21:17 wannabe-werk i hope to be online tonight, if i don't go home, which i'm not planning on....so boring w/o interwebz.
21:17 Electricguy bye bye! :)
21:17 Electricguy and have fun :D
21:18 Electricguy ok, as fun as you can :)
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21:31 Hydroelectric Ok, migration MK2 = Success. Now to pack my bag for school.
21:35 * Experimentonomen thinks Hydroelectric = Thermoelectric
21:36 Thermoelectric Almost, Hydroelectric lives a few suburbs over from me.
21:36 Experimentonomen hm
21:36 Thermoelectric It'd help if someone didn't have such a similar name to me. :P
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21:39 astro73|alice_ since i'm spamming everyone else with it: gaming for science http://fold.it/portal/
21:39 BotSteve Title: Solve Puzzles for Science | Foldit
21:41 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D05ej8u-gU
21:41 BotSteve Title: The Most Astounding Fact (Neil DeGrasse Tyson) - YouTube
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22:04 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm
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22:10 HighMan I need help!
22:11 HighMan I screwed up my MFT and I'm on another computetr with the broken HD in..
22:11 HighMan Anyone on that can help? XD
22:11 masterofmonks MFT?
22:11 Electricguy ?
22:11 Electricguy wtf is a MFT?
22:11 HighMan I screwed something up and chkdsk won't run it says the master file table is screwed up
22:12 Electricguy congratz..
22:12 Electricguy tried google?
22:12 HighMan I really need someones help... And yes I did google
22:12 Experimentonomen aight bedtime
22:12 Experimentonomen nite PEEPZ
22:13 Electricguy HighMan, sadly i don't have any clue..
22:13 HighMan ... I'm am going to die xD
22:14 Electricguy yepp
22:14 Electricguy how the F did you manage to do that? o_O
22:14 HighMan ?
22:14 HighMan What?
22:14 Electricguy fuck up the file table
22:14 HighMan I don't know.
22:14 Electricguy ... -,-
22:14 HighMan It asked for hckdsk 2 times... 2 lazy so I screwed it up..
22:15 * HighMan Should listen to windows..
22:17 masterofmonks Wait, if it was asking for it....
22:17 masterofmonks Adn you didn't change anything?
22:17 HighMan It waws
22:17 masterofmonks and*
22:17 HighMan A chkdsk takes forever!
22:17 HighMan And good thing there are still files on the HD... I just got to recover them
22:20 HighMan I am an idiot
22:20 Electricguy yes
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22:21 HighMan Yay! 7hrs.
22:21 Electricguy first think, then do stuff.. not the other way around :)
22:21 HighMan I probably should listen when lappy wants chkdsk
22:22 Electricguy yeah..
22:22 Electricguy it doesn't ask for a chkdsk with no reaso
22:22 Electricguy n
22:22 HighMan :P
22:23 * Electricguy listens to Animusic - Acoustic curves
22:24 sunshine ive got a quick question im looking for an updated key for a heathkit tt-1 tube tester
22:26 Electricguy he was in a hurry...
22:26 masterofmonks Ok, 28 seconds later.
22:26 HighMan Wha?
22:26 HighMan Oh xD
22:26 masterofmonks 88*
22:28 Electricguy OMFGGFFGG!! old memories! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNmz47a98NA
22:28 BotSteve Title: TechnoTranceUploadrZ - Hoppesanegen - YouTube
22:28 Electricguy Dj rei - Hoppesanegen.. xD
22:28 Electricguy i this that tack comes from norway..
22:29 Electricguy veery simple song really.
22:32 Electricguy hahaha so cute! :D http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421955_10150570498039823_538704822_9219650_1381856815_n.jpg
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22:43 HighMan Hi astro73
22:43 astro73 hello
22:44 HighMan I screwed up my MFT! :()
22:46 Electricguy it's nothing to be proud of dude.. :P
22:46 HighMan Lol
22:46 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr20TBDl3d4
22:46 BotSteve Title: Overture For Winds By Charles Carter - YouTube
22:47 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hb4fD5LkXI
22:47 BotSteve Title: Into the Storm by Robert W. Smith - YouTube
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23:19 Seroster .define MFT
23:19 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for MFT.
23:20 Monkeh Seroster: I assume he means master file table.
23:21 Monkeh Seroster: Unless he's playing with IBM mainframes, but I somehow doubt that.
23:22 HighMan Hi Seroster
23:22 HighMan Monkeh: Yes
23:35 astro73|alice_ holy crap. just played minecraft for the first time on my computer. gnome-shell doesn't seem to be happy about it
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23:37 HighMan Whoops... Forgot
23:38 Electricguy bedtime. night all
23:38 Ponko night all
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23:38 HighMan Night ponk electricguy
23:38 HighMan *Ponko
23:40 Chipguy bed for me too nite all
23:41 HighMan Swarf
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