Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-09

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00:00 Experimentonomen i hate bluray, overpriced
00:00 eadthem BDR or   just BD movies in general
00:00 Experimentonomen ire regular fucking dvds that can  be played in a regular stginkin dvd player
00:00 eadthem because being able to burn 24GB to a single disk  with imgburn  is amasing when you have a video service like amazon
00:01 eadthem o well myn cant itherway
00:01 Experimentonomen only diff is the laser beeing 405nm instead of nir
00:01 Cprossu ok I am back
00:01 Cprossu no, 'oh shit I need to go answer the telephone'
00:01 Cprossu ^ would hav ebeen more correct but it used 7 more words
00:01 Experimentonomen i dont even have a phone :P
00:02 Cprossu eadthem: if he had the money to add into it
00:02 eadthem Experimentonomen are you expecting to ever get 4 GFX cards?
00:02 Cprossu it would be better off spending on a good graphics card
00:02 eadthem well i said when
00:03 eadthem i was implying that the optical drive in general could wait
00:03 Cprossu so far the most decent for the price graphics card I've seen in his country is
00:03 Cprossu .c 200usd to sec
00:03 Cprossu .c 200usd to sek
00:03 BotSteve 1 343.38183 Swedish kronor
00:03 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
00:03 Cprossu ^ that much
00:03 Cprossu eadthem: he'll still need one to install his OS though
00:04 eadthem Experimentonomen you got a dvd drive laying around?
00:04 Cprossu actually
00:04 Cprossu let's see if the new mobo has an IDE!
00:04 eadthem you got a link to the list?
00:04 Experimentonomen my current system has two optical drives in it, both ide though
00:04 Cprossu nope.
00:04 eadthem wow
00:04 Cprossu and IDE->SATA adapters are as much as buying a new drive
00:05 eadthem i mean i get why  but wow
00:05 eadthem a ide or sata PCI card or PCI ex card is about 5-15$
00:05 Cprossu all right eadthem here's the revised silly plan
00:05 Cprossu ^ eadthem then you run into x64 issues
00:05 eadthem mitaswell get a drive
00:05 eadthem with a realtec chipset?
00:06 eadthem surely realtec has x64 drivers  or more to the point surely linux can do 64bit with a cheepo  ide controller
00:06 eadthem i mean the 64bit 32bit driver thing is realy windows programmers being to lazy
00:06 HighMan_MFT_Cell Monkeh cprossu http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s494/roadran422/IMG105.jpg
00:07 Cprossu http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=741927 <-mobo http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=654277 <-proc http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=517988 <-ram http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684 <-PSU http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=645800 <-dvd burner http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=632991 <-"graphics" we'll put graphics in "" quotes here ""
00:07 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Gainward GeForce GT 520 1GB PhysX CUDA
00:07 Monkeh HighMan_MFT_Cell: Congratulations, you've cut some wires and put those wirenut things on them
00:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell :P
00:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell No parts
00:08 Cprossu ^ green to black to turn on =P
00:08 Monkeh HighMan_MFT_Cell: Where's the variable voltage and current limiting?
00:08 eadthem Case?
00:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell NO PARTS
00:08 Cprossu Monkeh I don't think he's into the whole variable power supply thing
00:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell Cprossu, I know lol
00:08 Monkeh Cprossu: I don't think he knows how.
00:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell Guides.
00:09 Monkeh So indeed, you don't know how.
00:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell Wait.
00:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell Voltage regulator
00:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell Or a pot
00:09 Cprossu Monkeh: i'd rather him mess with this than a pole pig xD
00:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell HAHA lol
00:09 eadthem 48 stream procs
00:09 Monkeh HighMan_MFT_Cell: You go ahead and stick a pot in that, see how much smoke you can get out of it.
00:10 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lololololol
00:10 Cprossu sometimes the best way is destructive @ Monkeh
00:10 HighMan_MFT_Cell Monkeh, why are you such an ass.
00:10 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: because he's trying to save you grief
00:10 HighMan_MFT_Cell Nice would be nice.
00:11 eadthem .c 545sec to usd
00:11 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
00:11 Cprossu the 5v rail won't shut off if overloaded until it burns all the insulation off :D
00:11 eadthem .c 545sek to usd
00:11 BotSteve 81.13851 U.S. dollars
00:11 Experimentonomen Monkeh, Cprossu, just ignore that twat :P
00:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Mmm, burning PVC. Fun smell.
00:11 Cprossu but yeah he's trying to help you by essentially saying 'we've all been there and done that and it was dumb'
00:12 HighMan_MFT_Cell And I'm saying, it doesn't hurt to be nice.
00:12 Cprossu also don't shoot your eye out (or burn your house down)
00:12 Monkeh Cprossu: Well, see, using an ATX supply as a general purpose PSU is not always a bad thing. But he doesn't know why it can be.
00:12 Experimentonomen i made a air horn compressor pump water with trhe 5V rail of an old AT psu once when i was a kid
00:12 Cprossu Monkeh: I am fully aware.
00:13 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ill use fuses for Max amps and volts on each wire
00:13 Monkeh Volts and fuses don't have much to do with each other
00:13 Cprossu Experimentonomen: and I nearly set my matress on fire when using an old AT psu to power a fan through stables when I was 7 too
00:13 Cprossu heheheheh
00:13 Cprossu *staples
00:14 HighMan_MFT_Cell I learn.
00:14 Cprossu basically always keep in mind that the voltages on a computer power supply for the most part are 'group regulated'
00:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Mmm, crossload..
00:14 Cprossu what this means to you HighMan_MFT_Cell is you have to be careful of the loads
00:14 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: it also means the load you put on one rail will affect not only the voltage of that rail but the other rails too
00:15 Cprossu also for a ATX power supply you always want some static load on the sucker
00:15 Experimentonomen Cprossu, most atx psus wont even start if theres not a certain amount of load on the 5v rail
00:15 Cprossu specifically on the 12v rail
00:15 Cprossu Experimentonomen: they will
00:15 Cprossu if it falls into the ATX spec it should 'start' with no load other than the psu itself
00:15 Monkeh You want to load both 5V and 12V rails somewhat. Hell, add 3.3V if the resistors are cheap.
00:15 Cprossu now AT power supplies
00:16 Cprossu are different
00:16 HighMan_MFT_Cell Any suggestions saftey wise?
00:16 Monkeh Cprossu: All my old AT supplies (well, one which still lives) start up and maintain proper voltage reg with no load. Which I like.
00:16 eadthem wow  you cant get anything but SATA on modern boards
00:16 Monkeh eadthem: I should hope not.
00:17 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: don't use it near anything flamable, have a nice worktable if you can, make sure the supply is ALWAYS grounded properly
00:17 eadthem well it would be nice if you could get a ide jack
00:17 eadthem i guess theres realy no demand for it anyhow
00:17 Cprossu and don't touch your ballast resistors once you have them in place, they will get rather toasty
00:17 Monkeh HighMan_MFT_Cell: And don't crossload it too much or try and use two in series.
00:17 HighMan_MFT_Cell how to ground it...
00:17 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: make sure that your outlet is grounded
00:17 Experimentonomen i only use linear power supplies on my bench
00:17 HighMan_MFT_Cell Well, still about -12v?
00:17 Cprossu the case ties to the third prong
00:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Foreign concept in the US. :)
00:18 Cprossu don't ever mix your voltages :D
00:18 Monkeh Cprossu: At least not without knowing what you're doing :P
00:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok, how about -12v plus +12v...
00:18 Cprossu just don't do it
00:18 Monkeh HighMan_MFT_Cell: Don't do it and it won't do anything useful if you try.
00:18 Cprossu you'll find people who say it's doable just don't.
00:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok... I read a guide.. idk
00:19 Monkeh Sure, you've got 24V, but the PSU's going to shut off if you try and draw more than.. probably around 200mA
00:19 Cprossu 200-500ma
00:19 Cprossu or less
00:19 Monkeh You might get more but really, nothing uses 24V unless it wants more than that. Quite a bit more.
00:19 Cprossu the -12 is just for a few things on most computers
00:19 Monkeh Only 24V supplies I've seen outside of small motors (for torque reasons, see: wheels) usually start around 1.5A.
00:19 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ill cut it, also brown is Hooked to orange.
00:20 HighMan_MFT_Cell Now how bout gray?
00:20 Cprossu if you want a 24volt psu though HighMan_MFT_Cell, they are cheap enough.
00:20 Cprossu do you have a multimeter HighMan_MFT_Cell?
00:20 Monkeh Cprossu: He somehow broke his.
00:20 HighMan_MFT_Cell Broke it. I need some parts.
00:20 Cprossu what kinda multimeter do you have?
00:20 Cprossu harbor freight special?
00:20 eadthem is there another company to buy parts from
00:21 eadthem the selection isnt good
00:21 HighMan_MFT_Cell A broken trashed one, and had that XD
00:21 Monkeh Cprossu: Cheaptastic 830B or whatever they're called clone
00:21 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: your dad a cool guy?
00:21 egrsteve http://www.mpja.com/Single-Output-Supplies/products/3/
00:21 HighMan_MFT_Cell A autorange + thermo be nice
00:21 BotSteve Title: Single Output Supplies-MPJA, Inc.
00:21 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
00:21 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ehh not really
00:22 Cprossu think he'd at least make a trip out to harbor freight for you
00:22 Cprossu http://www.harborfreight.com/7-function-digital-multimeter-90899.html
00:22 BotSteve Title: Digital Multimeter - Save on this 7 Function Digital Multimeter
00:22 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ill get one online...
00:22 Monkeh Cprossu: Arrrrgh, 830B
00:22 Cprossu http://www.harborfreight.com/ac-dc-digital-multimeter-37772.html
00:22 BotSteve Title: Digital Multimeter - Save on this AC/DC Digital Multimeter
00:22 Cprossu ^ or you could get something a bit nicer
00:22 HighMan_MFT_Cell I got to go to radioshack soon
00:23 Monkeh Cprossu: Varying degrees of nice.
00:23 Cprossu anyone taking a trip up to sears that you can tag along with HighMan_MFT_Cell?
00:23 eadthem im not sure i would trust harbor freight to a DMM
00:23 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lol, mall has a Sears
00:23 Monkeh eadthem: Those 830B clones work, just don't expect miracles.
00:23 Monkeh Cprossu: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230745719644
00:23 BotSteve Title: UNI-T UT90A Environmental Friendly Handheld Digital Multimeter AC/DC Resistance | eBay
00:24 Monkeh If you want to recommend a cheap meter. :P
00:24 HighMan_MFT_Cell I got parts, its ok
00:24 Monkeh Of course, if you can spend a little more: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300672753978
00:24 Experimentonomen below 50 bucks usually gets u a crap dmm
00:24 BotSteve Title: UNI-T UT-61E Modern Digital Multimeters UT61E | eBay
00:24 Cprossu http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03482146000P?prdNo=16&amp;blockNo=16&amp;blockType=G16
00:25 BotSteve Title: Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more
00:25 HighMan_MFT_Cell If I can convince my parents to let me shell 50 dollars from my "college money"
00:25 Cprossu ^ I have one of these it works out pretty well
00:25 Cprossu Experimentonomen it's better than being blind
00:25 Cprossu by FAR
00:25 Experimentonomen though for a 14yo kid, pretty much anything would do
00:25 Cprossu honestly
00:25 Cprossu the $6 harbor freight
00:25 Cprossu is a good multimeter
00:25 Monkeh I'd take an 830B over nothing but oh boy it's worth spending the $60 on the Uni-T.
00:25 Cprossu I have a few
00:25 Cprossu it's easy doesn't use insane batteries
00:26 Monkeh Cprossu: You say good, what you mean is it shows roughly the right voltage. ;)
00:26 Cprossu I mean it's .1 off at most =P
00:26 eadthem current or general metering?
00:26 HighMan_MFT_Cell Gtg... eat Beverly
00:26 Cprossu we're talking low voltage stuff here
00:26 Monkeh Cprossu: As far as you can see. That one digit is a lot with some stuff. ;)
00:26 HighMan_MFT_Cell *brb
00:26 Cprossu for $6 it will cover AC
00:26 Cprossu and DC
00:26 eadthem o well i was going to recommend a craftsman AC DC clamp on
00:26 Cprossu and will be more then enough for him to do stuff with
00:26 Experimentonomen my dmm sucks dicks, it only goes up to 200mA on the Amps scale o_O
00:27 eadthem decent meter for almost everything    but it wont do miliamps
00:27 Monkeh Cprossu: I've got a couple of those little things, they.. work. Mostly.
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00:27 Cprossu Monkeh: I can use a harbor freight multimeter to fix a car
00:27 eadthem well i guess it goes to 10mA on the 40A scale
00:27 Cprossu that's all I can ask for it
00:27 Monkeh Cprossu: I've also got the UT61E and wouldn't consider buying one of those little plastic thigns again.
00:27 Experimentonomen and on dc vols, the inpöut impedance is like in the kiloohms range so that it affects the ciruit beeing measured
00:28 Cprossu Monkeh: I have a nice big TPI and a few other meters
00:28 Cprossu but the harbor frieght is damn cool
00:28 Cprossu I can hand it to an idiot
00:28 Cprossu who blows it up
00:28 Cprossu and I am only out $5-$6
00:28 Monkeh http://www.ebay.com/itm/260952939321
00:28 BotSteve Title: UT10A Digital LCD Pocket Auto Range Multimeter DC AC | eBay
00:28 Cprossu that doesn't even cover a FUSE for a fluke
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00:29 Experimentonomen Cprossu, HRC fuses are fucking expensive
00:29 Cprossu hahahah cute little thing
00:29 Monkeh Cprossu: Autoranges and is more compact and accurate than those clones. ;)
00:29 Cprossu what does it use as a batt Monkeh?
00:29 Monkeh Cprossu: CR3032.
00:29 Monkeh Er, 2032
00:29 Cprossu was gonna say
00:29 Experimentonomen couin cells, EWWW
00:29 Cprossu a lot of the pocket ones use a123's lol
00:30 Cprossu I know mine does
00:30 Cprossu (12v a123 lol)
00:30 Monkeh Cprossu: I'm actually considering getting one of those.
00:30 Cprossu anyway the harbor frieght is a good starter multimeter, kill the batt, it's a 9v
00:30 * egrsteve wants a good agilent meter
00:30 Cprossu kill the multimeter, it's $6
00:30 Monkeh Cprossu: Only one problem with those little UT10As.
00:31 Cprossu give it to an idiot who shorts it across a car batt measuring AMPS
00:31 Cprossu $6
00:31 Monkeh Can you spot it?
00:31 Cprossu the tiny tiny leads
00:31 Cprossu what is that?! 20gau?
00:31 Monkeh Cprossu: They're not really made for measuring current.
00:31 egrsteve and a 200mhz + scope
00:31 Cprossu fixed leads and small wiring
00:31 Cprossu does not go together in my bookj
00:32 Monkeh Cprossu: For a pocket meter..
00:32 Experimentonomen egrsteve, look for a tek 2445B or similar
00:32 Cprossu it's near it has a freq counter though
00:32 Cprossu *neat
00:32 egrsteve I was looking at a rigol one
00:32 Experimentonomen or why not the agilent infinivision 3000 series
00:32 Monkeh Cprossu: It does voltage and resistance, token capacitance..
00:32 Experimentonomen rigol is crap
00:32 egrsteve as it's similar to the teks but a lot cheaper, and I know
00:32 egrsteve problem is I don't have 4k for a scope
00:33 Monkeh Cprossu: It has a relative mode, which is amazing at the price (and amazingly useful)
00:33 Cprossu now see what you've made us go off on a tangent on HighMan_MFT_Cell? hah hah hah
00:33 Cprossu if we're a bit rude we're just trying to steer you through and away from what we had to learn the hard way
00:33 Experimentonomen i've used a tek tds1000 series, hated it
00:34 Monkeh Cprossu: Data hold, relative mode, continuity buzzer, and respectable accuracy in a <$15 package. Can't go wrong as a spare/portable/even first time meter
00:34 Cprossu yeah but the $6 shipping kinda sucks
00:34 Cprossu and so does the fact it uses 2032's which isn't an issue for me, but for a beginner it would be
00:34 egrsteve i have used the tds3000 those are nice
00:35 Monkeh Cprossu: At least 2032s have a good shelf life.
00:35 Cprossu (starts counting motheboards with viable 2032's)
00:35 Experimentonomen the 2445b was the best scope i ever had
00:35 Monkeh Cprossu: I'm about to start fitting lithium batteries to my meters..
00:35 Monkeh egrsteve: Rigol are apparently coming out with a new range of scopes soon.
00:35 Cprossu Monkeh: shhhh there's kids in here
00:36 egrsteve i might have to keep an eye on there line then
00:36 Monkeh egrsteve: Let me see if I can find the post
00:36 Cprossu Monkeh: I wonder if they will be as one size fits all hackable as the last series xD
00:36 egrsteve rigol can't be to bad if agilent is rebranding them
00:36 Monkeh Cprossu: I imagine they'll be taking severe efforts to counter that.
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00:37 Monkeh egrsteve: Overall opinion of them seems to be that the hardware is pretty good, the software quite nice, and the price bloody amazing.
00:37 Experimentonomen from whart i've seen, rigol sucks
00:37 Cprossu you should see the crap triplett has been rebranding lately
00:37 Cprossu yikes.
00:38 Monkeh egrsteve: It's in chi-frigging-nese: http://cn.rigol.com/prodserv/DS2000/
00:38 BotSteve Title: DS2000系列/DS2000--北京普源精电科技有限公司
00:39 Monkeh egrsteve: Looks like a midpoint between the existing models.
00:39 Experimentonomen anyways im fucking tired so im gonna goto bed, Cprossu, we'll continue the puter parts convo next time ur on
00:39 Experimentonomen nite peepz
00:40 Cprossu later Experimentonomen
00:40 Cprossu let us know if there's anything else we can do heh
00:40 Cprossu get mowing lawns or something
00:40 Cprossu I don't know
00:40 Monkeh Cprossu: Also, if someone sticks my meter on a car battery on amps the fuse is cheap and I have a BOX of them. ;)
00:44 egrsteve the rigol ds4000 series looks really nice
00:45 Monkeh egrsteve: Agilent rebadge them as lower end units.
00:45 Monkeh iirc.
00:45 egrsteve I will have to keep  my eye out for the 2000
00:45 egrsteve series
00:45 Monkeh egrsteve: It could be promising.
00:45 egrsteve yes, agilent sells them as entry level units
00:45 Monkeh And by 'entry level' we mean 'practically everything the serious hobbyist will ever need'
00:47 egrsteve basicly
00:47 Monkeh One of these days I plan to scratch together enough to get a 1052E.
00:47 egrsteve sadly looking at the chinese site the 2000 series is only 2 channel
00:48 Monkeh A DSO would be of use to me and cheap ebay pickups don't appeal to me.
00:48 egrsteve same here
00:48 Monkeh I mean, if I can get one off ebay second hand, great, but..
00:48 egrsteve if I am going to get a scope I want somehting light and powerful
00:49 Monkeh When I have the money and when people are selling a suitable unit on ebay are not the same time.
00:49 Monkeh egrsteve: Rigol have registered a lot more than the three models on that page
00:50 egrsteve mayeb there is more than 2 channel units then
00:50 Monkeh I'm only seeing two channel ones so far though
00:50 egrsteve ah ok
00:51 Monkeh Still, worth keeping an eye out for a while
00:51 egrsteve the 2000 and 4000 seem to add a lot of advanced math functions as well
00:51 Monkeh egrsteve: I wouldn't be surprised if the 2000 series development was driven by Agilent to flesh out their more affordable ranges..
00:52 egrsteve that would not suprise me
00:52 egrsteve the 4000 and 6000 series is just geek p0rn though
00:52 Monkeh Cheap geek pr0n. :D
00:52 egrsteve indeed
00:52 Monkeh Relatively speaking.
00:53 * Monkeh does not consider a 1052E cheap
00:53 eadthem mmm we got 7000 serise oscopes at work in engineering
00:53 eadthem those things are nice
00:53 egrsteve 400 is cheap
00:53 egrsteve 1500 is cheap too
00:54 egrsteve eadthem: made by whom?
00:54 eadthem cant help but think that they could of gotten the 50Mhz model of a 7000 class   agilent  and gotten away with it
00:54 eadthem nothing anyone dose is above 1mhz
00:54 Monkeh egrsteve: I wonder if Uni-T get rebranded by anyone nice, because this is NOT a cheap scope: http://www.uni-trend.com/UTD4302C.html
00:54 BotSteve Title: Uni-Trend Group Limited
00:55 BitViper hey steve, we have the sign figured out. not working yet, but now its just some programming
00:55 egrsteve it looks modeled after the tek 3000 series
00:55 egrsteve that good to hear
00:56 egrsteve is gemmini still charging at just over 2kV?
00:57 Monkeh egrsteve: Also, apparently Uni-Ts handheld scopes are good, if you're into those.
00:57 eadthem so where did uni-T come from
00:57 egrsteve modern DSO are portable enough for em
00:57 egrsteve *me
00:58 Monkeh Yeah, they are remarkably small compared to CRT ones.
00:58 BitViper egrsteve : also have a tuner started for the radio
00:58 HighMan_MFT_Cell Cprossu mentioned me and phone can only go so far back...
00:59 Monkeh egrsteve: Spot the reason this was had really cheap: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/my-%27new%27-uni-trend-utd1025c-dso-has-arrived-love-it-!/?action=dlattach;attach=19411;image
00:59 Monkeh (yes, the jack is jank.)
01:00 BitViper several parts look like they might have been made by keag
01:00 egrsteve nice
01:00 egrsteve nothing like a little rework on a new tool
01:00 tonsofpcs heh
01:01 Monkeh egrsteve: Only needs the jacks and one small fix :)
01:01 egrsteve ya
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01:01 Monkeh Can you spot the oops?
01:03 egrsteve sorry, didn't look for it
01:03 Monkeh tut
01:03 Monkeh It's quite visible :P
01:05 egrsteve the jack looks well melted
01:05 Monkeh Wrong side
01:05 Monkeh Top right
01:07 egrsteve the shieling box doesn't look great, I must be looking too hard
01:07 Monkeh You're warm
01:07 Monkeh The joint shorts out on the cap when the lid is on.
01:08 egrsteve ah, it flexes too much
01:08 Monkeh Blew the +5V supply for that channel
01:08 Monkeh Meter got sold for about a third of the normal price.
01:08 Monkeh Fairly easy fix.
01:08 Monkeh Wish I could catch deals like that
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01:08 egrsteve I was looking at that and figured it was not shorting
01:09 Monkeh Yeah, it only shorts with the lid on :)
01:09 egrsteve I don't have luck with stuff like that either
01:10 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
01:10 Monkeh egrsteve: Are you trying to drive her crazy?
01:11 egrsteve no, it is a preventative measure
01:11 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
01:24 HighMan_MFT_Cell Black RTV silicon psu insulator go or no?
01:25 HighMan_MFT_Cell Egrsteve, what would you do 2 drive her crazy?
01:34 Cprossu in the heck's going on now
01:35 * Cprossu hates black rtv, black = it has carbon in it =P
01:35 Cprossu whenever you see a colored object think about what made it that color =D
01:36 Cprossu the higher the voltages get the more it matters too.
01:37 HighMan_MFT_Cell That's y I asked...
01:38 HighMan_MFT_Cell So I need,liquid tape...
01:38 Cprossu what for?
01:38 Cprossu what you likely need is heatshrink tubing
01:39 Cprossu or at least electrical tape
01:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell Soldering iron can't heat high enough to remove remnants if unshirlded wire.
01:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell *unshielded
01:39 Cprossu uh... what?!
01:39 Cprossu you aren't stripping the wires?
01:39 Cprossu o_o
01:39 Cprossu what are you trying to do?
01:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell I cut wires off CPU
01:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell *psu
01:40 Cprossu ok. I got that much
01:40 Cprossu what are you trying to do next?
01:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell I am scared it will short, so I need liquid tape
01:40 Cprossu short against what?
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Scared what will short to what?
01:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell The components inside
01:41 Cprossu just get some small wire nuts
01:41 tonsofpcs egrsteve: shes not even here
01:41 HighMan_MFT_Cell As for next drill few holes for posts
01:41 HighMan_MFT_Cell Cprossu, ill show you what I mean
01:41 Cprossu ok
01:45 HighMan_MFT_Cell 1 sec lol
01:47 HighMan_MFT_Cell http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s494/roadran422/IMG114.jpg
01:47 HighMan_MFT_Cell Much more bare wires
01:48 Cprossu just use a needle nose on those, bend them back and forth until they snap off
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Hey, no abusing the probably cheap, shitty chinese PCB.
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Seriously, those aren't going to short out against anything.
01:48 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok, I got big heads...
01:49 HighMan_MFT_Cell OJ...
01:49 Monkeh|Lap Actually that really does look like a pretty crap PCB.
01:49 HighMan_MFT_Cell *ok
01:52 Cprossu yeah they are decent and all
01:52 Cprossu it's well laid out
01:52 Cprossu teapo caps though =P
01:52 Cprossu but at least he's not trying to run scientific instruments from it
01:53 Monkeh|Lap That's good, I'd hate for something useful to get fried.
01:54 Cprossu oh so there aren't any surprises HighMan_MFT_Cell, just remember that's a switching mode power supply, so there is some degree of AC bleedthrough present.
01:54 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok...
01:54 Cprossu it won't be an issue for you now, but look for it when you can
01:56 Cprossu keep it in the back of your mind when you build end up stringing TTL 74 series logic gates together using that supply and you get a strange result
01:57 HighMan_MFT_Cell http://s1054.photobucket.com/albums/s494/roadran422/PSU
01:57 BotSteve Title: Login to a private Photobucket.com album
01:58 HighMan_MFT_Cell Shouldn't be private noe
01:58 Cprossu still is
01:59 HighMan_MFT_Cell Gmail
01:59 HighMan_MFT_Cell *hmmm
01:59 Monkeh|Lap Good grief, turn that autocorrection off.
02:00 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok lol and now
02:00 Monkeh|Lap Strike three, you're out!
02:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell ?
02:03 HighMan_MFT_Cell Public
02:12 HighMan_MFT_Cell Damn big heatsink for few regulators.
02:13 Monkeh|Lap That's not big
02:13 HighMan_MFT_Cell Looks
02:16 * lwq_laptop slaps HighMan_MFT_Cell
02:17 HighMan_MFT_Cell ....
02:17 lwq_laptop i got accepted to a technical school!!!
02:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell CONGRATS!!!!!.
02:18 lwq_laptop its either for computer programing or computer technology
02:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell What are you working for?
02:19 lwq_laptop like what academy?
02:20 lwq_laptop i dont know which one i got accepted into but its one of those
02:20 lwq_laptop if its computer technology it will be called "computer technology/cisco academy
02:20 lwq_laptop if its computer programing its "computer programing/oracle academy
02:23 HighMan_MFT_Cell I mean degree wise
02:25 lwq_laptop i will be going for 3 years and if i apply to something i can get college credits, and since its three years it will follow over to the college i choose and i will only have to endure 1year of college for a 4 year degree, its actually pretty smart how they set it up
02:25 HighMan_MFT_Cell Nice
02:26 HighMan_MFT_Cell Idk where to go, MTI or USF
02:26 lwq_laptop its for courses in the vo-tech that are a conjoined academy, like oracle or cisco
02:26 lwq_laptop theres only three courses that have that
02:27 HighMan_MFT_Cell I want to work as IT.
02:27 lwq_laptop thats what im going for
02:27 lwq_laptop them i will be able to go to MI and work along side ynos and bill
02:28 HighMan_MFT_Cell IT then to tgg
02:28 HighMan_MFT_Cell Same! Lol
02:31 HighMan_MFT_Cell Monkeh, i just got a mini bite:)
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02:31 Isopropyl[Work] roar
02:31 Cprossu stop doing that then rofl
02:32 Cprossu how the hell did you manage that HighMan_MFT_Cell?
02:32 HighMan_MFT_Cell lol
02:32 Isopropyl[Work] sup guys
02:32 HighMan_MFT_Cell I was shorting green and black with hands, and last i rememver i touched heatsink?
02:33 Cprossu with the cover off?
02:33 Cprossu shit
02:33 Cprossu don't do that
02:33 HighMan_MFT_Cell :)
02:33 Cprossu heatsinks are livd!
02:33 Cprossu *live 120!
02:33 Cprossu or 250
02:33 Cprossu or whatever you run
02:33 HighMan_MFT_Cell America 120
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Some of those heatsinks could easily be live on rectified AC. ie. lethal volts.
02:33 Isopropyl[Work] someone taking plasma screens apart?
02:34 Cprossu hint: don't plug it in while the cover's off
02:34 HighMan_MFT_Cell I figured since i have taken it off 2 many times so i left it off
02:34 HighMan_MFT_Cell No, PSUs
02:34 Cprossu well now you know why it's there.
02:34 Monkeh|Lap HighMan_MFT_Cell: This is a sign: Stop playing in the damn thing.
02:35 Isopropyl[Work] ahh yeah. ive had psu heatsinks bite me
02:35 Isopropyl[Work] and plasma screen heatsinks
02:36 HighMan_MFT_Cell It was little little, and case back on.
02:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell I can run green to case?m
02:39 Monkeh|Lap HighMan_MFT_Cell: It doesn't have to be big.
02:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell I am alive...
02:40 Isopropyl[Work] 1 amp across the heat is enough
02:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell And thst is good...
02:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell Hand in pocket
02:54 HighMan_MFT_Cell 1amp hiw many volts
03:00 HighMan_MFT_Cell Night! Thanks cprossu and Monkeh|Lap
03:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Zzz x
03:02 tonsofpcs 1ma is enough
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03:07 lwq_laptop JEFF
03:07 ajprog_laptop hi
03:07 lwq_laptop hi :3
03:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell
03:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell ^(oo)^(>_<)⊙﹏⊙~@^_^@~
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03:10 lwq_laptop HIGHMAN NO SPAM
03:10 HighMan_MFT_Cell Bot, y u no be borked :P
03:15 Sgt_Lemming because it
03:15 Sgt_Lemming s written well
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03:56 tehdark45 hello peoples
03:57 epictang0 sup
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03:58 Hackbat I think I know how a cat feels when it looses it's whiskers
04:00 tehdark45 hey epictang0
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04:10 lwq1996 hi kelly
04:10 wannabe-tgg hi
04:10 lwq1996 guess what!!!!
04:10 wannabe-tgg ....you're <something> ?
04:10 lwq1996 IM ACCEPTED TO VO-TECH!!!!!
04:10 wannabe-tgg what?
04:10 lwq1996 technical school
04:11 wannabe-tgg ic
04:11 lwq1996 i dont know what im in as of yet but its either computer programing/oracle academy or computer technology/cisco academy
04:13 epictang0 hahahah oracle
04:13 epictang0 f that
04:13 lwq1996 why?
04:13 wannabe-tgg tgg has lots of oracle stuff
04:13 lwq1996 hey its all free
04:13 epictang0 because it is oracle...lots of companies running away from it
04:14 epictang0 they gouge you
04:14 epictang0 so essentially you would have a cert that would get you laughed at in 5 years
04:14 epictang0 unless you are going into the military
04:15 lwq1996 it doesnt mean i have to take the academy
04:15 lwq1996 its an option
04:15 epictang0 I am in the process of migrating Trimble off their Oracle habit
04:15 epictang0 and saving them ~2M per year in the process
04:16 lwq1996 im most likely in computer techology
04:16 epictang0 with a 60% performance tech
04:16 epictang0 get your cisco stuff
04:16 lwq1996 i dont know if thats what i got
04:16 epictang0 though they dont mean as much as they did 5 years ago
04:16 lwq1996 i had to pick two things and they place me in either one of them
04:17 epictang0 but that will get you a sweet job making ~70k/year if you play your cards right
04:17 epictang0 i see
04:17 lwq1996 thats what im planing on
04:17 epictang0 pay someone off
04:17 epictang0 <----CCIE
04:17 lwq1996 i can run cables and setup a network and fix computers
04:18 epictang0 not the same thing
04:18 epictang0 I design BIG networks...think 5000+ users
04:18 epictang0 we hire that shit done...
04:18 lwq1996 yeah so, not that big compared to some of the companys out there
04:18 epictang0 lol
04:18 epictang0 that is what the + was for
04:21 lwq1996 im hoping to make a company
04:21 epictang0 good luck
04:21 epictang0 its a cutthroat biz
04:22 lwq1996 there are not alot of companies like that around my area actually
04:22 epictang0 right...however even I have contracts out there...
04:22 epictang0 we dont need a physical location there
04:22 lwq1996 true
04:23 tehdark45 do you even know about subnetting lwq1996?
04:23 tehdark45 :P
04:23 epictang0 lol
04:23 epictang0 better yet...subnetting v6
04:23 epictang0 lol
04:23 lwq1996 i dont mean it has to be a big company or anything, just a little family buisness
04:23 lwq1996 nope
04:23 lwq1996 thats why im going, to lear
04:23 lwq1996 learn
04:23 tehdark45 epictang0, the thought of that makes me cringe :P
04:24 epictang0 tehdark45: it really isnt that hard
04:24 epictang0 i can shortcut it in my head
04:24 lwq1996 i will get 3years worth of credits over highschool :P
04:24 lwq1996 college credits i mean
04:25 lwq1996 well im getting on my other computer
04:25 tehdark45 Lee netwoking and shit. I calim royalties on the name :P
04:29 * epictang0 should write a tutorial on IPv6 subnetting
04:29 lwq_laptop what course are you in college for tehdark45
04:29 epictang0 it seems to be something that eludes all admins
04:29 tehdark45 computer
04:29 lwq_laptop computer techology
04:29 tehdark45 epictang0, isnt it the same just with 16 bits per notation?
04:30 tehdark45 and 8 not 4
04:30 epictang0 for a /32 yes
04:30 wannabe-tgg .tfw tgg
04:30 BotSteve 33 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'You think this is cold? Have you been to upstate New York?'
04:31 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, stay away from the oracle, you will probably have to use solaris
04:31 epictang0 nothing wrong with solaris
04:31 tehdark45 epictang0, except the 3 hour boot time
04:31 tehdark45 :P
04:31 epictang0 psh...you are running it on the wrong box
04:31 epictang0 and probably have a fudged NS config
04:32 lwq_laptop its free tehdark45 i will enroll if i get that then get something better when i get out of school
04:32 tehdark45 you can chose pracle or cisco
04:32 tehdark45 oracle*
04:32 tehdark45 cisco will help you with the idea you have b
04:32 tehdark45 etter*
04:32 wannabe-tgg go cisco
04:32 wannabe-tgg even I know that.....
04:33 tehdark45 lol wannabe-tgg
04:33 wannabe-tgg derp
04:33 lwq_laptop no i had to choose two things i would like to do, programing or technology. they choose which one i go into
04:33 tehdark45 herp?
04:33 lwq_laptop i dont get to choose
04:33 epictang0 hell, if you got a CCNP, I could keep you very busy for a long time
04:33 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, that sounds weird
04:34 lwq_laptop its logical if you have over 2000people in one building
04:34 lwq_laptop i hope i got technology
04:34 tehdark45 epictang0, but do you use solaris?
04:34 epictang0 and if you are +V i have some sweet work over in Germany 3 months from now...
04:35 epictang0 tehdark45: yessir...for legacy apps
04:35 lwq_laptop im going to tell them about the geek group when i go there
04:35 lwq_laptop and then see if they want to help set up a chapter
04:35 tehdark45 epictang0, isnt any old unix good enough for that?
04:37 epictang0 tehdark45: no...you dont want to mess with those apps..
04:37 epictang0 they are twitchy, and downtimes costs alot for the client
04:37 tehdark45 ah
04:37 epictang0 i cant wait till they migrate...
04:37 tehdark45 epictang0, see, you dont like it either :P
04:38 epictang0 like $10M/hr downtime...
04:38 epictang0 i like solaris
04:38 epictang0 i dont like their apps
04:38 epictang0 lol
04:38 tehdark45 lol
04:38 tehdark45 aprently solaris is like the best OS for databases
04:38 epictang0 used to be
04:38 epictang0 i can spank the shit out of it with Mongo+BSD
04:39 lwq_laptop tehdark what are you majoring in college again
04:40 tehdark45 Computer Information Systems
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04:42 lwq_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=CsrDbjnSfYs#!
04:43 BotSteve Title: School That's Cool! - YouTube
04:43 lwq_laptop thats the place im going to
04:43 tehdark45 oh lwq_laptop i know a guy in Lancaster who is in CTC
04:43 lwq_laptop cool
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04:45 lwq_laptop obtuse is a fat triangle :P
04:46 Obtuse lwq is a Low Wattage Quark
04:46 lwq_laptop lol
04:47 tehdark45 I am dark matter
04:47 tehdark45 :P
04:47 lwq_laptop what comes out your mouth is dark matter
04:48 tehdark45 your face is dark matter
04:54 wannabe-tgg sign says "the 6:00AM geek group"
04:54 wannabe-tgg :P
04:55 tehdark45 I dont think it is 6Am
04:55 tehdark45 :P
04:55 tehdark45 I think the sign should show messages
04:55 tehdark45 from TGG:NSFW
04:56 tehdark45 isnt that a great idea wannabe-tgg ?
04:57 wannabe-tgg yes, totally a *great* idea
04:57 tehdark45 i *knew* you would agree wannabe-tgg :P
04:58 wannabe-tgg did you catch the sarcasm dripping off of it too?
04:58 wannabe-tgg hey now it has the correct time!
04:58 tehdark45 wannabe-tgg, did you not see the **?
04:58 tehdark45 :P
04:59 wannabe-tgg time to power down....
04:59 wannabe-tgg bye!
04:59 tehdark45 cya wannabe-tgg ]
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05:01 tehdark45 its a jeff
05:02 tehdark45 and a lisa
05:02 tehdark45 ahh
05:02 hhrlisa HI
05:02 BotSteve hhrlisa: I have the following messages for you:
05:02 BotSteve At 08 Mar 06:32Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell hhrlisa congrats :D
05:02 hhrlisa yay!!1
05:02 lwq_laptop hey its the sexy lisa
05:02 hhrlisa lol
05:03 hhrlisa Where is kelly?
05:04 lwq_laptop is it hot in here or is it just lisa :P
05:04 hhrlisa lol you are too young for pick up lines
05:04 lwq_laptop lol
05:04 tehdark45 wannabe-tgg, lisa look for you
05:04 tehdark45 :P
05:05 lwq_laptop you know whats gross, yesterday i went to the park and under one of the equipment things i found a condom, and it was equipment for little kids
05:05 hhrlisa did you throw it away or leave it there
05:05 lwq_laptop i wasnt going to pick it up
05:05 lwq_laptop and there was nothing to pick it up with
05:05 hhrlisa then you are part of the problem
05:06 hhrlisa you find a stick or soemthing. you dn't leave that shit where kids play
05:06 lwq_laptop i coulnt find anything to pick it up with!!!!!
05:06 tehdark45 you have hands
05:06 tehdark45 :P
05:06 lwq_laptop i dont want aids
05:07 Druidic_Rifleman AIDS sucks
05:07 hhrlisa you could have found something. its a park.
05:07 tehdark45 aids would have been dead by now lee
05:07 Druidic_Rifleman I had a boss who had aids
05:07 hhrlisa they have woodchips
05:07 lwq_laptop and now you have it because you listened to him when he told you to bend over?
05:07 lwq_laptop no, it was sand
05:07 tehdark45 aids doesnt live long outside of biological substance
05:08 lwq_laptop sand and some type of ground up rubber
05:08 hhrlisa then you cover that bitch with sand and grab a whole goddamn pile of it.
05:08 lwq_laptop i did
05:08 hhrlisa no i don't mean leave it
05:08 speedrunnerG55 I cant believe the new ipad is called "the new ipad"
05:08 hhrlisa i mean encase it in sand then pick up the sand using your hands asa shovel
05:08 lwq_laptop oh, i dug a deep hole and put it in the hole and coverd it
05:08 hhrlisa i thought you said you couldn't pick it up
05:09 lwq_laptop i kicked it in the hole
05:09 hhrlisa you fail at protecting children
05:09 tehdark45 putting back in it natural habitat eh?
05:09 tehdark45 :
05:09 tehdark45 :P7
05:09 tehdark45 dammit
05:09 hhrlisa lol
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05:25 lwq_laptop lol http://xkcd.com/389/
05:25 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Keeping Time
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05:42 * lwq_laptop has knife
05:42 * epictang0 is one step from lashing out at your
05:43 hhrlisa .insult
05:43 BotSteve Hey, hhrlisa, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
05:43 hhrlisa nice
05:43 lwq_laptop which is the fingers :P
05:43 lwq_laptop epictang0: why?
05:44 epictang0 pantera tells me to
05:44 epictang0 lol
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06:03 lwq_laptop http://xkcd.com/323/
06:03 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Ballmer Peak
06:05 hhrlisa About GD Time Kelly!
06:06 wannabe1987 huh?
06:06 wannabe1987 was in the kitchen, sry
06:06 hhrlisa then nvm you were in the right place lol
06:06 lwq_laptop racist women joke coming
06:06 lwq_laptop ah the kitchen, where women belong
06:07 lwq_laptop lol lisa even agrees
06:07 hhrlisa im a winner
06:09 wannabe1987 yes, but i wasn't doing the dishes, mike was :P
06:10 lwq_laptop http://xkcd.com/413/
06:10 BotSteve Title: xkcd: New Pet
06:11 lwq_laptop need this http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Eee-PC-1201N-Netbook-Laptop-12-HDMI-Nvidia-ION-Dual-core-atom-light-weight-/220969806175?pt=Laptops_Nov05&amp;hash=item3372d3a95f#ht_1532wt_93
06:11 BotSteve Title: ASUS Eee PC 1201N Netbook Laptop 12" HDMI Nvidia ION Dual core atom light weight (884840550679) | eBay
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06:18 lwq_laptop http://usa.asus.com/Desktop/Gaming/Essentio_CG1330/#specifications needed!!!!!
06:18 BotSteve Title: ASUS - Desktop- ASUS Essentio CG1330
06:21 Sgt_Lemming lwq_laptop, you will get a much better, and probably more reliable system by building it from parts
06:22 lwq_laptop pft, yeah i have money
06:22 lwq_laptop im dreaming right now
06:22 Sgt_Lemming when you do have money, let me know, I will help you design a decent system
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06:23 lwq_laptop me and i think epictang0 build a pc already on newegg
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06:34 Isopropyl|Laptop woem
06:35 wannabe1987 hi sashi
06:35 Isopropyl|Laptop hey
06:35 wannabe1987 sup?
06:35 Isopropyl|Laptop just testing out my new laptop battery
06:36 wannabe1987 cool
06:48 lwq_laptop downloaded a flight simulator, dont know if its any good
06:53 wannabe1987 ask bats or toast?
06:56 lwq_laptop .seen toastdude
06:56 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw Toastdude 24.52 hours ago at 2012-03-08 06:25:43 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:56:43 UTC
06:57 * lwq_laptop is bored
06:58 wannabe1987 cool story bro
06:59 lwq_laptop tell it again?
06:59 wannabe1987 no thx
07:02 Isopropyl|Laptop so who's on?
07:02 wannabe1987 me
07:02 wannabe1987 ish
07:02 Isopropyl|Laptop zozo there?
07:02 lwq_laptop me
07:02 wannabe1987 next to me
07:02 hhrlisa I'm on..... TOP OF THE WORLD!!!
07:02 Isopropyl|Laptop sleeping?
07:02 wannabe1987 no
07:03 wannabe1987 on fb
07:03 Isopropyl|Laptop ahh
07:03 lwq_laptop just because you have big boobs -.- i wish i had boobs as big as yours
07:03 hhrlisa why
07:03 hhrlisa they're just boobs
07:04 lwq_laptop because i want my milkshakes to bring all the boys to the yard :P
07:04 hhrlisa lol
07:04 Isopropyl|Laptop being a guy, i must say the obligatory, boobs are great.
07:04 hhrlisa they're just boobs.
07:04 lwq_laptop i agree greatly :P
07:04 lwq_laptop to boys they are fun bags
07:05 hhrlisa duh
07:06 wannabe1987 http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/soviet-russia-cat.jpg
07:07 Isopropyl|Laptop my cat would go around the gouse and eat all cat-level cobwebs
07:07 Isopropyl|Laptop house*
07:07 wannabe1987 daw.....lol
07:07 Isopropyl|Laptop it was weird but cute
07:08 Isopropyl|Laptop like he would seek them out just to eat them.
07:08 Isopropyl|Laptop dunno if they tasted good or if that was his way of doing housework
07:09 wannabe1987 lol
07:10 lwq_laptop you know i have the perminate man form of pms
07:11 hhrlisa why
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07:11 lwq_laptop im pissy all the time
07:13 hhrlisa ah
07:15 lwq_laptop ask wannabe im always giving her shit for no reason
07:16 wannabe1987 mhm
07:23 wannabe1987 .seen astro
07:23 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen astro around.
07:24 wannabe1987 .seen astro73|alice
07:24 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw astro73|alice 9.63 hours ago at 2012-03-08 21:46:25 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 07:24:01 UTC
07:25 hhrlisa .insult
07:25 BotSteve Hey, hhrlisa, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
07:28 lwq_laptop hhrlisa: do you like to be abused or somehing?
07:28 hhrlisa only from botsteve
07:33 wannabe1987 .retort
07:33 BotSteve Your mother's a whore.
07:35 hhrlisa .insult
07:35 BotSteve Hey, hhrlisa, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
07:35 hhrlisa My favorite!
07:35 lwq_laptop lol
07:35 lwq_laptop .retort
07:35 BotSteve Your mother's a whore.
07:36 hhrlisa I WANT BACON!!!!
08:18 * lwq_laptop should go to bed
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10:22 pegasus .tfw 18101
10:22 BotSteve 43 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Allentown, PA!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
10:22 pegasus hm.
10:23 pegasus Wind:
10:23 pegasus From NW at 12mph gusting to 23mph
10:23 masterofmonks .tfw 32348
10:23 BotSteve 58 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Perry, FL!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
10:24 masterofmonks Actually it is a bit warm for butter making... not that you can't do it year round mind you, jut it works faster when it's a little cooler.
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10:54 HighMan_MFT_Cell Morning
10:55 HighMan_MFT_Cell .tfw 34208
10:55 BotSteve 66 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Bradenton, FL!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'
10:55 HighMan_MFT_Cell Masterofmonks, colder up there seems to
10:55 HighMan_MFT_Cell Be
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11:28 Experimentonomen g'day peepz
11:38 Experimentonomen to Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3fgBgTClAc
11:38 BotSteve Title: no primary master drive found o_O - YouTube
11:49 HighMan_MFT_Cell XD
11:50 HighMan_MFT_Cell Thats funny
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13:56 Electricguy the plantronics gamecom 377 is just AWESOME for listening to music when riding your bike
13:56 Electricguy the design of the earcups force the wind outwards.. so you don't get any wind noise in the heaphones! :D
13:56 Electricguy it's just awesome
14:02 Experimentonomen back
14:05 Experimentonomen oh god i cant believe roadran422 has trhe nerve to comment on my videos after i've told him to gtfo and leave me alone, hes now blocked
14:16 Sgt_Lemming hey yNos, you around?
14:16 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, what was so bad about the comment?
14:18 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, i dont want anything to do with him
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15:19 Experimentonomen hm my skyzoo at level 200 sucks, no mobs are spawning :(
15:29 Cprossu hey folks, are the forums down?
15:30 angy yep
15:31 Cprossu now what will I do? heh
15:31 angy I have lots of ideas, but none if them useful
15:32 injektion I'm going to look at that Euro spec BMW tomorrow
15:33 injektion I hope it has it's high compression engine and it wasn't removed during the federalization process
15:34 Cprossu it probably wasn't.
15:34 Cprossu however look for a tacked on plugged up EGR system =P
15:34 injektion I'll end up removing it
15:35 Experimentonomen g'evenin Cprossu
15:35 Electricguy lol. i'm happy that roadran doesn't sub to my YT channel
15:35 Cprossu hello Experimentonomen how are you this fine day?
15:35 Experimentonomen Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=H3fgBgTClAc
15:35 BotSteve Title: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
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15:36 Cprossu I don't like that noise I hear
15:36 Experimentonomen thats just the cd drive slipping
15:36 Cprossu is that your camera or the hdd?
15:36 Experimentonomen modern disc in old drive
15:36 Cprossu the ... . . .. . .. . ... ..?
15:37 Experimentonomen older disks were thicker so motor has no traction
15:37 injektion Cprossu, it's old enough it is emissions exempt where I live
15:37 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I am not talking about the spin up/spin down I mean you can hear it all the way
15:38 Experimentonomen then its the camera
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15:41 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, disc thickness really hasn't changed, it's more likely the gripping surfaces in the drive are worn smooth as often happens with old drives.
15:42 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I am going to post a nasty comment at that alex1m6 guy
15:42 Cprossu sorry!
15:42 Experimentonomen so wut do u think abt that "none" on master ?
15:42 Cprossu I think he's a moron
15:43 Experimentonomen it happens every startup
15:43 Cprossu Experimentonomen: buldging caps
15:43 Cprossu and/or failing hard drive
15:43 Electricguy is any of the IDE devices selected as master?
15:43 Sgt_Lemming that or the hard drive is failing to spin up on first attempt
15:43 Sgt_Lemming most drives will try to spin up a couple of times, and won't report to the BIOS until they have successfully done so
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15:44 Experimentonomen the hdd i put in is jumpered as slave so thats not the prollem
15:44 * Experimentonomen breeds cats in minecraft
15:44 Sgt_Lemming err, are there two drives on the primary channel?
15:44 Experimentonomen yes
15:45 Sgt_Lemming have you checked the jumpers on both drives?
15:45 Experimentonomen one master with the os on it and a old 80GB slave which stuff on it
15:45 Sgt_Lemming try setting them both to CS
15:46 Experimentonomen it didedent do that the first days i had this machine, it started doing it 2-3 days ago
15:46 Sgt_Lemming something is failing
15:47 Sgt_Lemming could be bulging caps as Cprossu said, or one of the two drives is dying
15:47 Electricguy yeah.. if it starts to behave differently something is going bad
15:47 Sgt_Lemming if the machine still boots, back it up NOW
15:47 Experimentonomen it does ha ndle minecraft pretty decently for having bulged caps and a single GB of ram
15:48 Electricguy and totally raping the pagefile cause it runs out of RAM.. :P
15:48 Experimentonomen but its starting to do weird graphics glitches, screen turn like brack and green polygonal figures sometimes when placing blocks and/or torches, overheating gpu ?
15:48 Electricguy when i played minecraft on 2GB RAM i had about 150MB left of the RAM. lol
15:49 angy memory management is very weird in windows
15:49 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, GPU could be failing yes
15:49 Sgt_Lemming but it sounds to me like the motherboard more than GPU
15:49 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, i've only had this machine for about a week so if the main drive dies, i loose nothing
15:50 Sgt_Lemming bad voltage regulation from the mobo can cause GPU issues
15:50 Sgt_Lemming and if the drive is playing up at the same time
15:50 Sgt_Lemming the common component is the mobo
15:50 Experimentonomen my stuff is on a slave drive and a sata drive in a usb cabinet
15:50 Sgt_Lemming other one would be the PSU
15:52 Electricguy those machines are half known for bad mobo caps.. at a computer workshop i were at a while ago, they had like 8 of those machines. all had bad caps
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15:53 slewfoot looks like the website is broke
15:54 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming: http://imgur.com/a/hY6Lk
15:54 BotSteve Title: pc - Imgur
15:54 Sgt_Lemming oh, MSI mobo, that explains it all
15:55 Electricguy myeah MSI isn't the best..
15:55 Sgt_Lemming measured the voltages from the PSU Experimentonomen?
15:55 Experimentonomen no and theres no reason to, they all look totally fine in bios
15:55 Sgt_Lemming DO NOT TRUST THE BIOS!
15:56 Sgt_Lemming I've seen boards reading the 5v line fine, measured with a multimeter it was at 3.9v
15:56 Sgt_Lemming also, is that an SIS chipset?
15:56 Experimentonomen anyways we'll see wut Cprossu comes up with
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15:57 Sgt_Lemming yes, because Cprossu, is the only person in the world who knows about fixing pc's, aside from the fact I've spent most of the last 12 years doing it for a living
15:57 Sgt_Lemming oh, I can also clearly see why your GPU is artifacting
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15:59 injektion What is the character limit for a computer name on Windows?
15:59 Sgt_Lemming 255 iirc
15:59 Sgt_Lemming it's pretty huge
15:59 angy depend which version
16:00 Sgt_Lemming well that too, but anything past xp should be >=255
16:00 Cprossu http://hothardware.com/reviews/images/msik7t266/board.htm
16:00 BotSteve Title: HotHardware - MSI's K7T266 Pro
16:00 angy and depend if in an AD domain, and in a forest or sub-forest as well
16:00 Cprossu ^ actually Experimentonomen
16:00 Sgt_Lemming ah, via... slightly better than SIS
16:00 Sgt_Lemming SIS == Shit In Silicon form
16:00 Cprossu that doesn't look like a bad board to recap at all
16:01 Cprossu hey I've had good SIS chipsets before
16:01 Cprossu better than a Via kt133 anyway =P
16:01 Sgt_Lemming yes, but that's not saying much
16:01 Cprossu also Sgt_Lemming, your youtube username ain't alex1m6 is it?
16:01 Sgt_Lemming lol
16:01 Sgt_Lemming hell no
16:01 Sgt_Lemming same as it is on here dude
16:02 Cprossu just want to make sure as I saw a nasty comment earlier
16:02 Experimentonomen alex is a guy from the 4hv.org community
16:02 Cprossu and I am about to drop one on that yt page
16:02 Cprossu poor guy
16:02 Sgt_Lemming refresh the page now :-P
16:03 Cprossu haha
16:03 Cprossu ninja'ed
16:04 Cprossu Experimentonomen: and that's what I'd post sight unseen
16:04 tlockley Cprossu: what vid are you commenting on?
16:04 angy injektion: in AD, maximum computer name size is 63 char
16:04 angy or 64
16:05 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3fgBgTClAc <-that one
16:05 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, have a look at the imgur link, bet you can guess why his GPU is artifacting :-P
16:05 BotSteve Title: no primary master drive found o_O - YouTube
16:05 Sgt_Lemming gah Cprossu
16:06 Sgt_Lemming not Experimentonomen, he posted it!
16:06 Cprossu what in the world lol
16:07 Experimentonomen main drive seem to be a seagate barracuda
16:07 Cprossu Baracuda IV?
16:07 Experimentonomen u'll see in a vid im uploadin
16:08 Cprossu you know something awesome Experimentonomen?
16:08 Cprossu if that truely is a 9500pro you got one of the lucky ones you can softmod to a 9700pro
16:09 Experimentonomen im not a softmod/overclock kinda guy
16:10 Cprossu anyway to answer Sgt_Lemming's comment
16:10 Cprossu those fans died easy and siezed up.
16:10 Experimentonomen i'd rather just replace this cowdung rather than putting patches on what i have
16:10 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I mean updating the firmware/bios
16:10 Cprossu and re-enabling parts of it
16:10 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, also having the sound card that close to it would not be helping
16:10 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: that's not his issue
16:10 Cprossu those cards weren't thermonuclear running
16:11 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, i have not touched the insides of this system oter thad putting in my old samsung drive
16:11 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, not suggesting you did
16:11 Sgt_Lemming saying that whoever built it and put that card right next to the GPU is not helping the situation
16:11 Cprossu it's either artifacting because the fan isn't spinning (or spinning rather slowly), or because the thermal interface material broke down and that's an issue because the GPU has a SHIM over it
16:11 Sgt_Lemming because it's gonna be running hot
16:11 Cprossu or it could be artifacting simply
16:12 Cprossu because it's getting shit for filtered power
16:12 Cprossu because his caps are buldging
16:12 Cprossu yes, most of the power comes externally on that card, but a fair amount still comes out of the AGP slot
16:12 Cprossu http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/video/ati/radeon9500pro/gpu.jpg <- the shim
16:13 Cprossu http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/video/ati/radeon9500pro/board_sm.jpg <- his not-so-common radeon 9500
16:14 Cprossu and as for what he needs to do with it -> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Transforming-a-Radeon-9500-into-a-Radeon-9700/49
16:14 BotSteve Title: Transforming a Radeon 9500 into a Radeon 9700 | Hardware Secrets
16:14 Cprossu I think someone made a softmod only version somewhere
16:14 Cprossu I just have to find it
16:14 Cprossu either way we should do that on an unstable machine that has buldging caps =P
16:15 Cprossu did I make myself at least semi-clear @ Sgt_Lemming hehehe
16:15 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, I see your point, but I still think moving the sound card away will help
16:15 Sgt_Lemming I know it has before for me
16:15 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnduJemTUuU
16:15 BotSteve Title: PC inside - YouTube
16:16 Sgt_Lemming yeah, clearly bulging caps
16:16 Sgt_Lemming ah ok, there is no card there, looked like there was in the pictures, or did you just move it?
16:17 Experimentonomen i havent touched anything
16:17 Cprossu OOOH it's a Pro 2
16:17 Cprossu (looks up)
16:17 Cprossu you sure you don't have usb2 via a header?
16:17 Experimentonomen yes
16:18 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, take a look at the cap right next to where it has DDR1 DDR2 DDR3 written
16:18 Sgt_Lemming it looks to be bulging in the video
16:18 Experimentonomen my uncle even told me this machine is too old to have usb2 and that none of his machines have usb2
16:18 Electricguy yes they are
16:19 Cprossu it's not too old to have usb2 Experimentonomen
16:19 Cprossu I have the pro2-ru version
16:19 Cprossu of your motherboard
16:19 Cprossu it has USB2
16:19 Cprossu do you have a "NEC" chip on your motherboard anywhere?
16:20 Experimentonomen well no matter what port i hook something to, that #this device can work fastyer is connecyedd to a high speed port" pops up
16:20 Experimentonomen unless my devices are sone new that they expect usb3
16:21 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, confirmed, no USB2
16:21 Cprossu darn confirmed
16:21 Cprossu http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/MSIK7T266P2RU_board.jpg
16:21 Cprossu ^ notice the big chip to the left of the PCI slot on that mobo
16:21 Cprossu vs the empty spot http://www.erecycleronline.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/s/ms_6380_k7t266_a.jpg
16:21 Cprossu ^ on that one
16:21 Electricguy that's not the same mobo
16:21 Cprossu sad face
16:21 Cprossu yeah but it's same design
16:22 Electricguy yeah
16:22 Electricguy VERY empty mobo.. lol
16:22 Sgt_Lemming err, isn't that the RAID controller Cprossu?
16:22 Cprossu no the raid controller is under the pci slot
16:22 Electricguy it looks a bit big for a USB controller
16:22 Cprossu the NEC usb2 is to the left of it
16:22 Cprossu it was a first gen usb2 controller
16:22 Cprossu what do you expect?
16:23 Electricguy lol
16:23 Sgt_Lemming next to the AMR slot?
16:23 Electricguy i'm gonna check a MSI mobo i got. it looks very familiar...
16:23 Cprossu http://images.tweaktown.com/content/2/4/246_1.jpg
16:23 Cprossu http://szgust.com/zbxe/files/attach/images/123/372/SP-480PCI%2520N5.jpg
16:23 Experimentonomen i've heard somewhere(i think maxxarcade on youtube) tghat msi is actually really good shit
16:23 Cprossu ^ etc etc etc
16:23 Electricguy nah. mine was a lot newer.
16:24 Cprossu they did make good shit
16:24 Cprossu it's just...
16:24 Cprossu their component selection sucked sometimes
16:24 Cprossu replace your caps Experimentonomen
16:24 Sgt_Lemming their high end stuff, and their server stuff is ok
16:24 angy they have a very wide selection of things
16:24 Cprossu you don't have 10,000 to replace
16:24 Cprossu so it looks like a good idea =P
16:24 Sgt_Lemming there value stuff is crap
16:24 Cprossu their old stuff was damn good
16:24 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: I still have a MSI 6167, hell of a board
16:25 Sgt_Lemming MSI 6309 allowed me to take a celeron 566 to 1133 air cooled
16:25 Electricguy ASUS rulez! :P
16:25 Sgt_Lemming and then onto 1250 water cooled
16:25 Cprossu oh snap I think my internet is taking a shit
16:25 angy punch it
16:26 Electricguy ASRock is fairly ok... but ASRock is just a downgraded ASUS board
16:27 Experimentonomen i've had a assrock mobo
16:27 angy are they still something related to asus? I thought they branched off not that long ago
16:27 Experimentonomen ArseRock :P
16:27 Electricguy no idea if they still got some connection
16:28 angy I think they spunoff from the spinoff in like 2008 or so
16:28 Experimentonomen Cprossu, so now knowing what is actually in this pc, ur starting to lean toward a recap beeing about as good improvement ans replacing with that mobo u thought abt sending over ?
16:30 Experimentonomen Oops
16:30 Experimentonomen he fell off the wire
16:32 angy :)
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16:34 Cprossu Electricguy: what I don't like about asrock is that it's like a testing ground for Asus
16:34 Electricguy hehehe
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16:34 Cprossu also my internet took a small dump there lol
16:34 Experimentonomen Cprossu, so now knowing what is actually in this pc, ur starting to lean toward a recap beeing about as good improvement ans replacing with that mobo u thought abt sending over ?
16:34 Electricguy yeah asrock mobos can be a bit weird sometimes
16:34 Electricguy aone asrock board i got got a VERY weird bios
16:34 Cprossu no kidding
16:34 Electricguy another one i got got 2 AGP slots.. pretty uncommon
16:35 Sgt_Lemming got pics Electricguy?
16:35 Electricguy can take some.
16:35 Electricguy or, one is enough
16:35 Electricguy or if i can find the model number on the board
16:35 Electricguy brb. gonna check
16:35 Experimentonomen prolly to allow dual gfx cards for brossfire bridging
16:35 Experimentonomen or wutever its called
16:36 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, can't do Crossfire or SLI with AGP
16:36 Sgt_Lemming none of the AGP cards supported it
16:36 Experimentonomen hm
16:36 angy you can actually do SLI with one AGP and one PICe
16:36 Cprossu I seem to remember there was an asrock motherboard that had one that looked like it had a reverse AGP
16:36 Experimentonomen whats the pont of two agp slots then ?
16:36 Cprossu hang on!
16:36 Cprossu and that was used for a custom CPU upgrade
16:37 angy one asrock had a reverse AGP for support of a sound card something
16:37 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, dual cards
16:37 Cprossu because that motherboard 'supported'
16:37 Cprossu both amd and intel chips
16:37 Sgt_Lemming angy, I have never, not once, seen an AGP card that supports SLI
16:37 Sgt_Lemming and I challenge you to show me one
16:37 angy 6XXX series
16:37 Cprossu http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-02-25/asrock-2.jpg
16:38 Cprossu ^ here it is
16:38 Sgt_Lemming mainly because SLI uses the PCIe bus to communicate between the cards
16:38 Cprossu well the AMD varian
16:38 Cprossu t
16:38 Cprossu let me find the Intel/AMD one
16:38 Sgt_Lemming 6xxx supported AGP yes, but they did not support AGP & SLI on the same card!
16:38 angy you can have a completly stable SLI with 6600GT, one AGP one PCIe
16:39 Sgt_Lemming again, I'd ask for proof, because everything I know about SLI says it won't work on AGP
16:39 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm Smart phone.. iphone or andriod
16:39 angy you're wrong then, just like, search the web?
16:39 Experimentonomen Druidic_Rifleman, i'd say iphone
16:40 Cprossu as far as I know
16:40 Experimentonomen them android ones seem to have varios issues and problems that iphone doesent have
16:40 Cprossu the AGP 6600's didn't have the SLI bridge part even on them though
16:40 Cprossu I could be wrong
16:40 angy android phone can have a nasty habits of crashing when calling
16:40 Electricguy pretty interesting mobo http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/939Dual-VSTA(m).jpg
16:40 Cprossu but I seem to remember that
16:40 Electricguy got lots of different slots
16:40 Cprossu also 6600gt's sucked hardcore
16:40 Cprossu especially in SLI =P
16:40 angy Cprossu: the one using the bridge PCIe to AGP did
16:40 Electricguy ASRock 939DUAL-VSTA
16:40 angy they sucked bad, that is true :)
16:41 Experimentonomen so whats getting most votes, recap the mobo i have or get another one ?
16:41 Cprossu Experimentonomen shit I have to go
16:41 Cprossu be back in 10 mins
16:41 Electricguy http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA
16:41 BotSteve Title: ASRock > Products > 939Dual-VSTA
16:41 Experimentonomen 10 minutes, sounds like a visit to that white thing :P
16:41 Electricguy for Sgt_Lemming
16:42 angy there was also some 6600GT that were SLI-able on PCIe without having the bridge, that was very fun
16:42 angy (and a disaster on performance)
16:42 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, yes I know the boards exist
16:42 Sgt_Lemming I have used one
16:42 Sgt_Lemming that doesn't mean SLI works on them
16:42 Electricguy you don't have to state the obvious! ;) i know it exsists too :D
16:42 Electricguy i have never said SLI was supported
16:43 angy SLI was not supported by nvidia on a cross combination, but it worked
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16:47 Cprossu speaking of disasters
16:47 Cprossu my ISP
16:48 tlockley what are they up to now?
16:48 angy it runs on SLI 6600GT?
16:48 Cprossu lol
16:49 angy that explains all
16:49 Cprossu I seem to remember there was one whacky AGP card
16:49 Cprossu though
16:49 Cprossu hrmm
16:49 Cprossu well I have 2 of them actually
16:49 angy there was very funny piece of equipment to convert PCIe to AGP
16:49 Cprossu I have a Rage Fury Maxx
16:50 Cprossu and a voodoo5 5500AGP
16:50 angy the later is a funny one
16:51 Cprossu I must say
16:51 Cprossu http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-1755-view-AGP-+-PCI-e-SLI.html
16:51 Cprossu that is rather hillarious
16:51 BotSteve Title: agp + pci-e sli
16:51 Cprossu @ Sgt_Lemming
16:52 Cprossu and it wasn't even posted on April 1st at all
16:52 Sgt_Lemming eh, I reckon the performance would be shit, and there's maybe a dozen boards in the world that could run that combo...
16:53 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: that's not the point
16:53 Cprossu it's a 6600
16:53 Cprossu performance already is shit
16:53 Sgt_Lemming it wasn't that bad in it's day
16:53 Sgt_Lemming they were damned popular
16:53 angy depend if it was GT or SE
16:53 Cprossu yes it was
16:53 Cprossu and they were bad in the day
16:54 Cprossu the SE's were god aweful, I had a pair of 6600GT's
16:54 angy I think I had a SE at one point
16:54 Cprossu I was running in SLI to replace a AGP radeon 9700pro
16:54 Experimentonomen so crossfire and sli is more of a marketing thing ?
16:54 Cprossu guess what was better performance wise? an AGP radeon 9700pro, or 2 6600GT's?
16:54 Cprossu at least for the games I played =P
16:55 angy SLI and CrossFire really improved nowadays
16:55 Cprossu I still don't like running them though
16:55 angy back when announced, it was... not really a gain in most of the time
16:55 Cprossu yes it was angy
16:55 Cprossu it was a HUGE gain
16:55 angy I reckon 6800 or something like that becoming worst in SLI than single card
16:55 Cprossu strap 3 voodoo2 pci's in a system
16:55 Cprossu and you had a hell of a cool thing
16:56 angy voodoo2 SLI was awesome
16:56 angy SLI by nVidia was kind of crap at first
16:56 Cprossu and still is
16:56 angy SLI by 3Dfx was great
16:56 Cprossu first of all they did it correctly :D
16:56 * tgg|yNos smiles
16:56 Experimentonomen hm i wonder what 2-3GB extra ram could do for the machine i already have
16:56 tgg|yNos hows evr'one?
16:56 Cprossu angy it's a pity we never got to buy rampage
16:57 Cprossu it's performance was Geforce3 when geforceDDR came out
16:57 * tlockley waves at tgg|yNos
16:57 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
16:57 Cprossu hey tgg|yNos how goes it?
16:57 Experimentonomen so Cprossu, whats the verdict abour recap vs replace, recap ?
16:57 Cprossu Experimentonomen: can you scrounge the parts for free?
16:57 Experimentonomen nope
16:58 Cprossu got any older dead motherboards around?
16:58 Experimentonomen i think i threw away the bag of caps i desoldered from mobos i had in my previous stationary years ago
16:59 Experimentonomen and since the move i tossed all computer parts i still had
16:59 Experimentonomen all i have left is the cpu and ram sticks from my laptop
17:01 Experimentonomen well a recap is out of the question either way, i dont have the equipment
17:01 Cprossu I think you only need to replace 4 caps
17:01 Cprossu the ones that are like the one next to the DDR slot mask
17:01 Cprossu possibly 5
17:01 Cprossu (finds a better picture
17:01 Experimentonomen btw caps doesent have to bulge to be bad
17:02 Cprossu indeed they don't
17:02 Cprossu but the other caps look like a different style
17:02 Experimentonomen bulging is justg a sign of internal pressure and doesent have to be bad, just pressurized at one point
17:03 Cprossu Experimentonomen: what it means is the dielectric broke down
17:03 Cprossu that's the last thing you want in a cap
17:03 Cprossu and it produced hydrogen gas as a result.
17:03 Experimentonomen who knows they may even be supposed to be domed
17:03 Cprossu http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/mainboards/msi-k7t266-pro/board.jpg
17:03 Cprossu ^ I can verify with you
17:03 Cprossu that they shouldn't be
17:03 Cprossu damn this one is a pro-not 2
17:03 Cprossu brb
17:04 Cprossu http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/y2vgxw7v/IMG_20120104_122613.jpg
17:04 Cprossu looking at the X vent caps btw
17:05 Cprossu I only see 3 of them?
17:05 Cprossu *checks Experimentonomen's video to see if the buldging ones are X vent)
17:05 Sgt_Lemming tgg|yNos check your pm's
17:05 Druidic_Rifleman soooooo two options A finish my sisters future father in laws retirment present or B get shit face till i am less depressed?
17:05 Experimentonomen well i'd have to order the replacement caps for a few bucks each, and knowing that mobos have huge ground planes, i'd need a hot air station to be able to do anything
17:07 Cprossu wow
17:07 Cprossu they are really weird vent Experimentonomen
17:07 Experimentonomen and i wanna remember from desoldering those caps from mobos back with my prev stationary that i completely raped the mobo, getting the caps off
17:07 Cprossu no you don't Experimentonomen
17:07 Cprossu you just need a soldering iron
17:07 Cprossu those are through hole components
17:08 Cprossu looks like your buldging ones are |-< vents
17:08 Experimentonomen well im not gonna start applying a 450degC soldering iron to a mobo that i do not own
17:08 Cprossu very odd looking
17:08 Experimentonomen knowing that theres a 50/50 chance of success/failure
17:08 Cprossu all you need is a 45watt soldering iron Experimentonomen
17:10 Cprossu If you could get away with only replacing those (3?) caps with the the same size and vent as the one by the DDR slots mask
17:10 Cprossu I'd give it a go
17:10 Experimentonomen last time i desoldered a cap from a through plated board, i destroyed the cap and burned the crap outta the board cuz groundplanes kept the hole cool enuf for the solder to remain solid
17:10 Cprossu SWEET!
17:10 Cprossu I called the hard drive Experimentonomen
17:10 Cprossu baracuda IV
17:10 Cprossu hell of a hdd
17:11 Cprossu an 80 gigger too
17:11 Experimentonomen and im pretty sure the replacement caps + shipping will be about as much the shipping would be for any parts you might have
17:12 Cprossu fan seems fine on your vid card though
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17:12 Cprossu Experimentonomen: scrounge some dead stereos
17:12 Cprossu or something
17:12 Cprossu come on you're the master of kludge!
17:12 Experimentonomen mobo caps need to be lowimp, just any cap will not work
17:13 Cprossu Low esr
17:13 Experimentonomen low imp, low esr, both are mandatory in a mobo
17:13 Cprossu but I can guarantee Experimentonomen
17:13 Cprossu that ANYTHING
17:13 Experimentonomen prolly even more important than in the psu
17:13 Cprossu will be better than what you have
17:14 Cprossu because I can guarantee that those caps are really messing things up
17:14 Cprossu and if there's only 3 of them
17:14 Cprossu hrmm
17:14 Experimentonomen and the only caps i have that would fit the footprint are way too low value
17:15 Cprossu Experimentonomen: then put them in with extended leads
17:15 Cprossu no biggie
17:15 Experimentonomen the caps on the mobo are like 1200+ µF, the only ones i have are old and possiblt even more dried up and like 100µF or less
17:15 Cprossu hell, I'd even give a radioshack cap of the same voltage a shot
17:16 Cprossu what is the rating of that cap 6.3v @ 1500uf?
17:16 Experimentonomen cant see the ratings
17:17 Experimentonomen without taking the mobo out
17:17 Experimentonomen hm all of a sudden my livingroom smells like someone likt a match
17:19 Experimentonomen anyways thiusmpc seem to be going downhill pretty rapidly, i cannot have any antivirus or antiadware programs running, adaware and avast both sit at 100% cpu each
17:19 Experimentonomen and even with those turned up, the tyhing strubggles more and more with playing a youtube vid
17:21 Experimentonomen turned off
17:21 Experimentonomen *
17:23 Cprossu yeah I bet
17:24 Experimentonomen i guess u wanna see if a recap does anything before starting to plan on shipping stuff
17:24 Cprossu well only if you can source those parts for cheap/free
17:24 Cprossu if you know what I mean
17:25 Experimentonomen cheapest is to order the caps new from elfa.se, digikey, mouser, farnell, newark etc
17:26 Experimentonomen so u see then i rather save that money to pay shipping of another mobo and other parts u might include
17:29 Experimentonomen but i can understand why you hesitate
17:31 Experimentonomen sure i could put 50 bucks into replacement caps but sonsidering minecraft barely ran on a 2.1GHz system with 4GB ram, i wonder if the current system is worth a 50 buck recap job with just 1.6GHz cpu and 1GB ram
17:32 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I thing you shouldn't have to put more than $3 into it
17:32 Cprossu .c 3 usd to sek
17:32 BotSteve 20.2583616 Swedish kronor
17:32 Experimentonomen on elfa.se, low esr caps are atleast 3 cucks each + vat and shipping
17:33 Experimentonomen each
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17:34 Experimentonomen only kn owing low esr aint enuf,
17:34 mashpriborintorg hi
17:34 Experimentonomen theres also low inductance and such to take into account
17:34 Cprossu what's a 'cuck '?
17:34 Experimentonomen bucks
17:34 Experimentonomen us dollars
17:34 Cprossu Experimentonomen: again anything is better than a shorted/broken down dielectric
17:34 Cprossu cap
17:34 mashpriborintorg I received my cheapo freq gen from hong kong, it seems to work quite correctly as far as i see at a first glance
17:34 Cprossu Experimentonomen: that's insane
17:35 Cprossu they shouldn't go for more than a buck a piece
17:35 Experimentonomen well if i go the recap route, i've used up enuf money that we could write off any sending parts over
17:35 Cprossu well that's silly
17:35 Cprossu what are your other options?
17:39 Cprossu Experimentonomen: does your country have something like craigslist or ebay? xD
17:39 Cprossu yay!
17:39 Cprossu nope =(
17:40 Experimentonomen we have something called blocket.se which is a bit like craigslist
17:41 Experimentonomen and tradera.se which is pretty much the swedish ebay but im banned from that site
17:41 Cprossu how did you manage that? lol
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17:42 Experimentonomen bleh elfa.se only have 1200-1500 mF 6.3 volt caps of shit brands
17:43 Cprossu .c 1000kr to usd
17:43 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:43 Cprossu errr
17:43 Cprossu what the hell is a 'Kr' Experimentonomen?
17:43 Experimentonomen swedish kronor
17:43 Experimentonomen SEK
17:43 Cprossu oooh
17:43 Cprossu .c 1000 sek to usd
17:43 BotSteve 148.73200 U.S. dollars
17:44 Cprossu so he only wants $75 for that one?!?!?!
17:44 Experimentonomen ?
17:44 Cprossu ok what 'part' do you live close to?
17:45 Experimentonomen i live in harnosand which is within vasternorrland
17:46 Experimentonomen btw im expecting a 600 euro bill from a place called forsakringskassan so i im not supposed to buy anything other than the most necessary until i know for sure if i have to pay back those 600 euros or not
17:47 Cprossu http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/Bra_surfdatorer_till_oslagbart_pris_38508310.htm?ca=9&amp;w=1
17:47 BotSteve Title: Bra surfdatorer till oslagbart pris | Västmanland | Blocket
17:47 Cprossu FUJITSU/SIEMENS SCALE, a64 x2 4200
17:48 Cprossu .c 500 sek to usd
17:48 BotSteve 74.36600 U.S. dollars
17:48 Cprossu http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/Snabb_och_kraftig_dator_38607201.htm?ca=9&amp;w=1
17:48 BotSteve Title: Snabb och kraftig dator | Västmanland | Blocket
17:48 Cprossu .c 800 sek to usd
17:48 BotSteve 118.9856 U.S. dollars
17:48 Experimentonomen so im poretty sure that if i told my uncle that a friend in USA is willing to send me a decent system for just shipping, im pretty sure he'd take such offer withiout hesitating, like 100 bucks shipping for something i'd normally have to pay well over 500 bucks for
17:49 Cprossu there's quite a few problems
17:49 Cprossu I'd want to send it in bits so you wouldn't have customs issues
17:49 Cprossu I've dealt with those before
17:49 Cprossu it's not fun at all
17:50 Experimentonomen and those cheap systems on blocket.se are a gamble, could very well be burned out crap that needs another 300 bucks to get going
17:50 Experimentonomen im fine with the 30 bucks customs fee, i've paid such before
17:50 Cprossu Experimentonomen: if we get a motherboard and a CPU out of it
17:50 Cprossu that's all we need
17:51 Cprossu a graphics card'd be nice though
17:51 Experimentonomen its usually the mobo and cpu that goesin systems like this
17:52 Experimentonomen so if the mobo0 turn out dead, i pretty much wasted that money + shipping, then i rather pay a customs fee and get stuff known to be working
17:52 Cprossu Experimentonomen: that's why you test it!
17:52 Cprossu and look inside
17:52 Cprossu before buying it!
17:53 Experimentonomen usually u dont get that option
17:53 Cprossu then your peoples suck
17:53 Cprossu =(
17:54 Experimentonomen and since i would have to have the thing shipped, tresting is out of the question for that reason
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17:56 Cprossu .c 100sek to usd
17:56 BotSteve 14.8087 U.S. dollars
17:56 Cprossu ok I must have read something wrong here
17:57 Cprossu http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/Moderkort__grafikkort__HDDs__CPUs__RAM__MM_39005249.htm?ca=9&amp;w=1
17:57 BotSteve Title: Moderkort, grafikkort, HDDs, CPUs, RAM, MM | Västmanland | Blocket
17:57 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I need translating
17:57 Cprossu I'm trying to figure out what that green motherboard in the mix is
17:58 Experimentonomen those sockets feel like some old mobo, possiblt older than what i have now
17:59 Cprossu the pink ones are all socket 478, ignore those
17:59 Cprossu I am curious about the green one
17:59 Experimentonomen ads liike that one are generally not worth looking at
17:59 Cprossu at $14 usd it would be cheaper than your recap
17:59 Cprossu hey I am trying to make something work for you
17:59 Cprossu this means even things like this are worth looking at!
18:01 Experimentonomen he specs what all the cpus are
18:01 Cprossu because if they decide I am sending you pc parts, you won't get off with less than 200 of import taxes I bet
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18:01 Experimentonomen is that 200 sek or usd ?
18:01 Experimentonomen if sek its a bargain either way
18:01 Cprossu usd.
18:01 Cprossu .c 200usd to sek
18:01 BotSteve 1 344.70054 Swedish kronor
18:01 Cprossu ^ That much.
18:02 Experimentonomen i highly doubt thereäll be any customs fees on used computer parts as thats based on the value stated on the customs form and not shipping price
18:04 Experimentonomen unless ur one of those that considering fraud not to write down the actual value rfather than writing like 5usd or similar like many ebay sellers do
18:04 Cprossu yeah that's what I'd do
18:04 Cprossu but I've run into issues before
18:05 Cprossu seems the farther away it goes the more hassle it is
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18:05 Cprossu wb wannabe1987 and Guardianzozo
18:05 Experimentonomen because they open packages and determine the calue based on whats actually inside
18:05 Experimentonomen ?
18:05 Cprossu exactly Experimentonomen
18:06 Cprossu then they usually base it off of some insane thing like what people on ebay are ASKING for (not getting)
18:06 Experimentonomen well i've never gotten a package that looked like it had been opened and resealed
18:06 Cprossu X-Rays too
18:06 Cprossu it all depends if the customs officer is having a good day or not it seems
18:07 Cprossu http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/Datortillbehor__adslmodem_wlessrouter__moboP4_38748409.htm?ca=9&amp;w=1
18:07 BotSteve Title: Datortillbehör, adslmodem,wlessrouter, moboP4 | Västmanland | Blocket
18:07 Cprossu oh great
18:07 Cprossu let's put a motherboard on a bed
18:07 Cprossu that's fucking great =P
18:07 Experimentonomen well considering how seldom i've gotten to pay customs fees, i'd be willing to take the risk
18:07 Cprossu also I have to make sure it's something worth sending
18:08 Cprossu you know what I mean?
18:08 mashpriborintorg with the ikea blanket under it :p
18:08 Cprossu OH WOW
18:08 Cprossu just found a rather good deal
18:08 Cprossu .c 400sek to usd
18:08 BotSteve 59.4928 U.S. dollars
18:08 Cprossu yeah that's pretty kickass
18:08 Cprossu http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland/XFX_ATI_Radeon_HD_4870_512_mb_38103418.htm?ca=9&amp;w=1&amp;last=1
18:08 BotSteve Title: XFX ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 mb | Västmanland | Blocket
18:08 Cprossu as for what video cards generally go for, that kicks.
18:09 Experimentonomen well i have no use for a gfx card like that until i have a system worth putting it in
18:09 Experimentonomen so lets focus on a mobo and cpu first
18:10 Cprossu I think we were making some real strives yesterday in the pricing
18:12 Cprossu awwww
18:12 Cprossu they ran out of the motherboard =(
18:13 Cprossu http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=654277 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=638763 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=517988  brings us to 2038 SEK
18:14 Cprossu .c 2038 sek to usd
18:14 BotSteve 301.801306 U.S. dollars
18:14 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 4GB, CL9
18:14 Cprossu that 4870 would sit pretty nice in that rig too
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18:14 Cprossu http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684
18:14 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - XFX ProSeries Core Edition V2 450W PSU
18:14 Cprossu adding this psu would be a good idea
18:15 Cprossu so 2573 SEK without the hdd, dvd drive, or graphics card
18:15 Cprossu .c 2575 sek to usd
18:15 BotSteve 382.9849 U.S. dollars
18:15 Experimentonomen still way over my budget
18:16 Cprossu yeah I know but still it's 1/2 of what your friend thought it would cost you to get a really kickass rig
18:16 wannabe|tgg thx cpro
18:16 Cprossu we might be able to fudge some other stuff too.
18:16 Sgt_Lemming http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/index.html
18:16 BotSteve Title: Retracted autism study an 'elaborate fraud,' British journal finds - CNN.com
18:16 Cprossu n/p, enjoy your lab stay wannabe|tgg
18:16 wannabe|tgg lol i'm sure i will ;)
18:16 wannabe|tgg theres zomb tonight if we're up to it....and next saturday as well
18:17 Experimentonomen wellhe prolly meant for the most powerful and fastest machine u could get for the lowest price
18:17 Cprossu Experimentonomen: that's what I was doing yesterday
18:17 Ponko ahhh i'm back
18:17 Cprossu hex core AMD (after some tweaking), Radeon 6870, that thing woulda flown
18:17 wannabe|tgg hi Ponko
18:18 Experimentonomen and possibly also based on the kinda prices in his area
18:18 Ponko hey wannabe|tgg
18:18 Cprossu Experimentonomen: can you tell me if this comes with a heatsink or not? http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=745246
18:18 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - AMD Athlon II X4 641
18:18 Cprossu oh shit FM1. bleh
18:18 Cprossu not worth the performance decrease
18:18 Experimentonomen "included preripials: cooler"
18:19 Cprossu ok well lets check FM1 boards anyway
18:19 Cprossu at least it's still 2 billion percent faster than what you already have
18:22 Cprossu those have their video disabled. damn
18:22 Cprossu .c 2020sek to usd
18:22 BotSteve 297.41268 U.S. dollars
18:22 Cprossu and we're not saving a hell of a lot yet
18:22 Cprossu $82 is worth the better mobo and cpu
18:26 Cprossu .c 1902sek to usd
18:26 BotSteve 280.039068 U.S. dollars
18:27 Cprossu that's about as low as I can make it with new parts Experimentonomen
18:27 Sgt_Lemming off to sleep, night all
18:27 Cprossu lates Sgt_Lemming
18:27 Experimentonomen nite lemmington
18:27 Sgt_Lemming oh Cprossu, RFID board parts have been ordered, first prototype should be ready in a week or two
18:28 Experimentonomen Cprossu, is that based on parts u know are good or just the cheapest available ?
18:30 Cprossu Experimentonomen: both at the same time :D
18:30 Cprossu otherwise you'd have seen me go digging for ECS =P
18:30 Experimentonomen hm
18:31 Cprossu but really 100 makes the difference from a dual core sandy bridge pentium to a hex core AMD.
18:31 Cprossu *100 usd
18:31 Cprossu which quite a leap for not that much cash
18:34 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/datorer-kringutrustning/datorkomponenter/processorer/amd/socket-am3/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html
18:34 Cprossu ^ ooooh that could work
18:34 BotSteve Title: Overclockers
18:35 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3-am3-amd760g-m-atx-pci-e-audio-gblan-raid.html
18:35 BotSteve Title: Overclockers
18:35 Cprossu and this would give us the onboard graphics at least
18:36 Experimentonomen thats one crazy looking northbridgbe heatsink :o
18:37 Cprossu the ram on that page is expensive heh
18:38 Cprossu and their power supplies are through the roof
18:38 Experimentonomen well i dont see wmy my current psu wouldent work
18:38 Cprossu because it couldn't power the totally awesome graphics card you will be getting
18:38 Cprossu or the 6 core proc
18:39 Cprossu your 400watter is probably good for no more than 200
18:39 Experimentonomen or is it just that it many not have the connectors required by whatever u may com up with ?
18:39 Cprossu that too
18:39 Cprossu well all I know
18:39 Cprossu is I overbuild things
18:39 Cprossu and I don't like leaving ticking timebombs inside machines
18:39 Cprossu if we go with that cheaper processor
18:40 Cprossu we might be able to unlock to a quad core
18:40 Experimentonomen i dont need whatever gaming monster ur thinking of sending me, all i need is something that will decently run minecraft
18:40 Experimentonomen doesent need to be any high ewnd gaming rig
18:41 Experimentonomen heck something around the same specs as that lappy i had would do
18:41 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html http://www.oc.nu/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3-am3-amd760g-m-atx-pci-e-audio-gblan-raid.html http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=657684 http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=604394 2025 SEK
18:41 Cprossu .c 2025 sek to usd
18:41 BotSteve 301.1823 U.S. dollars
18:41 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Corsair Value S. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB CL9
18:42 Cprossu I might be able to shave a little off but not much
18:42 Cprossu .c 109 sek to usd
18:42 BotSteve 16.141483 U.S. dollars
18:42 Cprossu .c 189sek to usd
18:42 BotSteve 28.110348 U.S. dollars
18:43 Experimentonomen well a psu i can buy if needed
18:43 Cprossu (rofl I can save you $12 usd and half your ram =P)
18:43 Experimentonomen psus are cheap
18:43 Cprossu good ones aren't
18:43 Cprossu .c 535sek to usd
18:43 BotSteve 79.226545 U.S. dollars
18:43 Cprossu ^ price of a 'good' one
18:43 Experimentonomen see thats cheap
18:44 Cprossu that's damn near 1/3 of your computer's price!
18:44 Experimentonomen u made it sound like a good psu was like 150-200usd
18:44 Cprossu Experimentonomen: when you're talking 'your' budget it's quite pricey right?
18:45 Experimentonomen well i dont need to upgrade the psu right away
18:46 Cprossu well I guess it's worth a shot then.
18:46 Experimentonomen it only means not beeing able to use the stuffs full performance right away which is fine with me
18:46 Cprossu but see if you can snag that radeon 4870
18:46 Cprossu it's more card than you'll ever need
18:46 Cprossu Experimentonomen: it means potentially destroying your computer
18:46 Cprossu that's why I put an emphasis on the PSU
18:47 Experimentonomen so u think my axp psu is like those q-tec ones, goes up to half its rated power and then blows up ?
18:48 angy are you game to try?
18:49 Cprossu Experimentonomen: if it doesn't say Delta, Seasonic, Zippy, NMB, Corsair, XFX, PC Power and Cooling, or at least bloody Antec, yes I think it'll blow up at 1/2 load or better
18:49 Cprossu (well errr worse depending on how you look at it)
18:50 Cprossu AXP being a reseller, and their quality PSU's being built by superflower
18:50 Cprossu I have no clue
18:50 Cprossu what's in that psu case
18:50 Cprossu it could be gold it could be trash
18:50 Cprossu I don't know
18:50 Cprossu I looked for internal build pictures which I didn't find though @ Experimentonomen =(
18:50 Experimentonomen i can turn the pc off, open the psu and take a pic
18:50 Cprossu do itttt
18:50 Cprossu xD
18:52 Experimentonomen oki
18:52 Experimentonomen bbiab
18:52 wannabe|tgg awww i missed gemini
18:52 Cprossu see you in a bit Experimentonomen
18:52 Cprossu oh one more thing
18:52 Cprossu just for the hell of it
18:52 Cprossu remove the IDE ribbon on the samsung
18:52 Cprossu before you turn it back on
18:53 Cprossu and see if it wants to boot or not
18:53 Cprossu ahh too late
18:54 * wannabe|tgg has to run to wally world :/
18:54 wannabe|tgg i hate walmart, but their drugs are cheaper than meijers sometimes....
19:03 * Cprossu is lazy and runs teamviewer on his laptop
19:04 angy teamview from your laptop into your laptop :)
19:06 Cprossu no to my desktop
19:07 Cprossu from my bed xD
19:07 Cprossu I want to take a nap but I want to see experimentonomen's psu
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19:08 angy right on tim!
19:09 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/EFoiV
19:09 Cprossu yay
19:09 BotSteve Title: axp psu - Imgur
19:10 Cprossu superflower is the OEM Experimentonomen
19:10 Cprossu capxon caps bleh they could be worse though
19:10 Experimentonomen so its undoubtly a crap psu then
19:10 Cprossu the sec side is nippon chemicon!
19:10 Cprossu NICE
19:11 Cprossu it's not nearly as shitty as it could be Experimentonomen
19:11 Cprossu it's well built and nice
19:12 Cprossu probably good for 300watts at least
19:12 Druidic_Rifleman wonder's if i can post on freecycle
19:14 Experimentonomen hm
19:14 Cprossu I think we can call on that PSU to drive your new comp Experimentonomen :)
19:14 Cprossu I like it.
19:15 Experimentonomen it does have a 4pin version of the atx connector for things like gfx cards and such
19:16 mashpriborintorg capacitor autopsi video just released
19:16 Cprossu mashpriborintorg: I am shocked. Experimentonomen has a good looking cheap psu
19:17 Experimentonomen Cprossu, i did expect much beefier heatsinks for a 400W psu though
19:18 mashpriborintorg I just received a good looking cheap chinese freq gen... I was expecting a piece of crap, but once opened up it seems to be pretty well made, for its dirt cheap price
19:18 Experimentonomen this one reminds me of a 300W "codegen" brand piece of shit psu i scrapped, on it the 3.3V rail failed which caused the onboard sound on my prev stationary to start playing at like half speed
19:18 mashpriborintorg sometimes cheap is ok, when you are lucky
19:19 Experimentonomen moments before the m obo died
19:19 Cprossu those codegens were piles of crap
19:19 mashpriborintorg and expensive stuff can be shit as well :p
19:19 Cprossu Experimentonomen but you're good for 300-325 watts with that
19:20 Cprossu I wouldn't want to push it any further than that though
19:20 Cprossu with your rig you'll be pulling somewhere north of 180
19:20 Cprossu once we're done with it
19:20 mashpriborintorg it should have overload protections anyway
19:20 angy the problem is the ``should''
19:21 Experimentonomen atleast it has the ful mains input filter
19:21 Cprossu what I am curious about mashpriborintorg / Experimentonomen is that little ferrite core taped to the side of the middle transformer
19:21 Cprossu it couldn't be a current sensor could it?
19:21 Experimentonomen something most psus just have bypassed with jumpers
19:21 mashpriborintorg good psus can be shorted you, they just shut down and try to restart
19:21 Experimentonomen it is indeed a little current transformer
19:22 Experimentonomen its connected to the feedback bit on the TL494 smps pwm controlller ic
19:22 Cprossu that's way cool
19:22 mashpriborintorg these switching psus are quite complicated, current sensing can be done at several stages i believe
19:23 Experimentonomen also a rare feature, this is onlu nthe third time in my life i've seden it
19:23 Cprossu that's an interesting place to do it though
19:23 Experimentonomen and i've taken apart up to a hundred computer psus by now
19:23 Cprossu Experimentonomen I am shocked to see it on such a low end unit
19:23 Cprossu you scored with that thing :D
19:23 mashpriborintorg or maybe they do not sense the current, but the voltage drop
19:24 Cprossu either way it might have some form of active power factor correction built in
19:24 Cprossu which is nice
19:24 Experimentonomen nope
19:24 Experimentonomen theres no pfc what so ever
19:24 Cprossu pity
19:24 Experimentonomen a fpc circuit is always in between the bridge rectifier of the mains input and the dc bus caps
19:24 mashpriborintorg yeah I already saw huge mains inductors in some good old pc psus
19:25 Cprossu yeah mashpriborintorg, passive pfc lol
19:25 angy passive PFC can be well hiden
19:25 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, those are mostly just a dummy iron core and not actually an inductor
19:25 mashpriborintorg so it was only noise filtering, but the thing was the size of a transformer
19:25 Cprossu still I think you'll be able to power that tri-core no problem
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19:27 Experimentonomen tricore ?
19:27 Experimentonomen never heard of tri-core cpus
19:27 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html
19:27 Experimentonomen only single, dual and quad
19:27 angy lots of AMD ones
19:27 Cprossu quad core with one knocked off
19:27 BotSteve Title: Overclockers
19:27 Cprossu we'll re-enable it Experimentonomen probably
19:27 Cprossu just like I was planning on doing to that quadcore which was a hexacore
19:28 mashpriborintorg ... that's not in the user manual
19:28 Experimentonomen so they only disable a core to lower the price tag a bit ?
19:29 angy depend on the sales and asking of a particular processor
19:29 angy if there is high demand for tri-core, they create tri-core
19:29 Cprossu Experimentonomen so you think we can swing 1500sek?
19:29 angy exactly the same for frequencing of a CPU, high demand of a particular frequency, there is product at that frequency even if the CPU could have handle way more
19:29 Cprossu .c 1500sek to usd
19:29 BotSteve 223.09800 U.S. dollars
19:30 mashpriborintorg some kind of manufacturer cheating, like my hard drive dummy head: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/1386701828/
19:30 Cprossu we call this process 'binning' btw
19:30 BotSteve Title: Dummy hard drive head | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
19:30 Experimentonomen that is what it looks like shipping will be ? or are u actually buying brand new stuff here ?
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19:31 angy mashpriborintorg: standardization is why dummy heads exists
19:31 mashpriborintorg they must have a good reason to do so, but it looks so wrong
19:31 Cprossu no Experimentonomen I am just thinking
19:32 angy lots of that kind of things looks very wrong :)
19:32 Cprossu I don't know how messy the exchange rate would be
19:32 Cprossu I am just trying to figure out a cheap way for you to get a good computer Experimentonomen
19:32 Experimentonomen hm
19:33 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html http://www.oc.nu/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3-am3-amd760g-m-atx-pci-e-audio-gblan-raid.html http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=604394
19:33 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Corsair Value S. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB CL9
19:33 Cprossu ^ these links are for you
19:34 Cprossu mobo, cpu, and ram for starters
19:34 Experimentonomen i think its the fourth or fifth time u post those :P
19:34 Cprossu add in that radeon 4870 and you have yourself a nice gaming computer
19:34 Cprossu did you actually click and look at them though Experimentonomen? =P asking me about the tri-core proc was evidence you didn't hehehehe
19:35 Experimentonomen the last 3 times i did
19:35 Experimentonomen just just cuz it sez X3 doesent mean i know it means three cores
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19:36 Cprossu hehehehe
19:36 Cprossu nap time though heh
19:36 angy good nap then
19:36 wannabe|tgg-afk naps?
19:36 Experimentonomen and 64bit, almost wasted resorces to run win xp on that
19:36 Cprossu just know that's a tri core which you can enable the 4th on
19:36 wannabe|tgg its cold out
19:36 wannabe|tgg why?!
19:37 Cprossu Experimentonomen it's a good proc and will serve you fine
19:39 Experimentonomen just keep in mind that id i would buy those items in the links, take the price X2 to get with shipping and VAT
19:39 wannabe|tgg thumper from the basement sounds bad ass
19:40 Experimentonomen so it may look cheap now but once vat and shipping and the other fees them stores have, were back to around 3000sek
19:40 angy ouch
19:41 Seroster Just rewatched Idiocracy
19:41 Seroster I'll nominate it as my number one most likely dystopia.
19:42 Experimentonomen Cprossu: http://www.arbdata.se/ <-- i have thatt store around a hours walk from where i live, which is where i've bought most of my computer parts so far
19:42 BotSteve Title: ÅRB
19:42 angy compare their prices
19:43 Experimentonomen hes even given me discounts in the past
19:43 angy that's nice
19:45 Experimentonomen so if u can find parts on that site thats equal to what u've posted, maybe we can get away even cheaper
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19:47 angy time to go find some food!
19:47 Experimentonomen i picked the cheapest mobo on the site, a 4gb ddr3 kingston ramstick and a dual core ahtlon cpu, ends up at 1500sek flat
19:48 angy does it have dual channel memory?
19:48 angy if so, you may be better suited to use two sticks rather than one
19:48 Experimentonomen 4 Gb 1333 Mhz CL9 Kingston VR
19:48 Cprossu it does but he should
19:48 Cprossu nt
19:48 Cprossu also which CPU Experimentonomen?
19:49 Cprossu and carful on the mobo
19:49 Experimentonomen AMD Athlon II 250 X2 2 x 3,0 Ghz 2 Mb med fläkt
19:49 Cprossu still socket AM3?
19:49 angy you're likely to see quite an improvement if you go dual channel, even on athlon-old-ones
19:49 Cprossu he will not
19:49 Cprossu I can guarantee it
19:49 Experimentonomen ASUS M5A78L-M LX AM3+ Micro ATX AMD 760G, 2xDDR3, VGA, ljud mm
19:50 Cprossu ddr3 doesn't see the improvement that ddr2 and ddr did
19:50 Experimentonomen those were wut i did that 1500sek figure on
19:50 angy depend on what you do Cprossu
19:50 Cprossu the 250.......that's not a cut down quad core
19:50 Cprossu it's a legit dual core
19:50 Experimentonomen i know
19:50 Cprossu no fun unlocking on that =(
19:51 Experimentonomen well i dont give a shit about unlocking cores and that stuff anyways
19:51 Experimentonomen i wouldent know how to or be able to anyways
19:51 Cprossu you should especially if you're stuck with the computer for the next 5 years
19:51 Experimentonomen i prolly shouldent even be puttin g the thing together myself
19:51 Cprossu yeah you should :DF
19:51 Cprossu it's easy as pie
19:51 Electricguy a quad core locked to a dual is locked for a reason.. because the locked cores don't match the specs.. IE. by unlocking them you can get a EXTREMELY unstable CPU
19:52 angy Electricguy: it may or may not
19:52 Cprossu no Electricguy this is archetectually a dual core
19:52 Electricguy yes but i'm just saying
19:52 Cprossu the 2 cpu
19:52 Experimentonomen Electricguy:
19:52 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/EFoiV
19:52 BotSteve Title: axp psu - Imgur
19:52 Vladdeh sometimes the yields get "too good" so they sell a quad as a dual just to meet demand
19:52 Experimentonomen whats your opinion?
19:52 Experimentonomen trash ?
19:52 wannabe|tgg hi BotSteve!
19:52 BotSteve Yo wannabe|tgg!
19:52 Cprossu it's not trash it's well built =P
19:52 Electricguy a friend unlocked his CPU.. the machine got BSOD when it started to load the gui
19:53 angy it's a bit of luck as well
19:53 Electricguy exp. looks pretty okey
19:53 Cprossu Electricguy: experience :D
19:53 angy you can have CPU that goes great to quad, other that can't
19:53 Electricguy i have seen MUCH worse PSUs
19:53 Vladdeh there are always risks
19:53 Cprossu Electricguy I think he did great there
19:53 Cprossu that thing kicks ass
19:53 Cprossu superflower's the OEM and it's good for 300watts at least
19:53 Electricguy the PSU? kicks ass? nah.. but it looks ok
19:53 Cprossu nippon chemicon secondaries :D
19:54 Experimentonomen i havent paid a dime for this system, as i've said a hundredc times already, i borrowed this thing off my uncle
19:54 wannabe|tgg .seen hhrlisa
19:54 BotSteve wannabe|tgg: I last saw hhrlisa 11.04 hours ago at 2012-03-09 08:51:44 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 19:54:19 UTC
19:54 wannabe|tgg aw.
19:54 Cprossu for something that should have been a DEER it kicks ass @ Electricguy
19:54 Electricguy my cooltek 500Watt PSU is CRAMMED with stuff. it's about 2mm between the fan and the components. lol
19:54 Electricguy but that's a cooltek after all
19:55 Experimentonomen btw Cprossu, that 1500sek we've come up with is what i paid to have my lappy repaired and trhe hcc recovered around a year ago
19:55 Cprossu Experimentonomen ouch
19:55 Experimentonomen including the usb hdd cabinet
19:55 Cprossu you got robbed
19:55 Electricguy the weight is about like 3 OEM PSUs, lol
19:55 Electricguy it's a cooltek MC500BHE12
19:55 Electricguy i use it for labbing
19:55 Experimentonomen i got the hdd in the lappy on warranty, the other hdd + the cabinet + the recovery job was 1500sek
19:56 Electricguy as it's a fully modular PSU and i didn't have the cables for it
19:56 Druidic_Rifleman GRRRRR
19:56 Cprossu Electricguy: we're talking building a whole computer for less than people dump on a high end video card =P
19:57 Electricguy ok. i'll STFU then
19:57 Cprossu and he doesn't want to scrounge other parts locally =(
19:57 Electricguy sorry..
19:57 Cprossu you know what I mean though right?
19:57 Cprossu yes it's true he's on a AXP 1900+/1gb ram/80gb primary hdd
19:58 Experimentonomen Cprossu, trying to locate parts locally for me aint as easy as it sounds
19:58 Cprossu there's stil some performance to be had if he can scrounge just 3 1500uf 6.3v caps and make it stable though
19:58 Experimentonomen i dont have a car and i dont have a phone
19:58 Cprossu out of his current rig
19:58 Cprossu =(
19:58 Cprossu got any friends/buddies that do?
19:58 Experimentonomen and going somewhere with a bus cost as much as going to that nearby store and bying those parts i posted
19:59 Experimentonomen no i dont
19:59 Cprossu sad face :.(
19:59 Experimentonomen only my uncle which doubts the swollen caps have anything to do with this pc acting weird
20:00 Cprossu Experimentonomen do we have to print him up a chart?
20:00 Cprossu hahaha
20:00 Experimentonomen in his eyes im just coming up with excuses to spend 1500+ SEK on computer parts now today rather than using this system provided until i have the money
20:00 Cprossu that sucks =(
20:01 Cprossu I mean you are one talented dude
20:01 Cprossu does the store local to you have a website Experimentonomen?
20:02 Cprossu or was it one I posted earlier?
20:02 Experimentonomen so u see why i was pushing on you sending me free stuff as u were thinking when we first started this convo
20:02 Electricguy dustin is good for buying computer parts
20:02 Electricguy their customer support is awesome too
20:02 Experimentonomen http://www.arbdata.se/ <-- i posted it a few minutes ago :P
20:02 Cprossu yeah but I don't want you to have to pay hundreds of dollars so you can get a shitty pentium D or a old a64 x2
20:03 Experimentonomen Cprossu, u had a look at what u had and realized it wasent much better than what i already had ?
20:04 Experimentonomen if so that explains why u started pushing on recapping what i had
20:06 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I have some decent stuff but
20:06 Cprossu I didn't want you getting bit by customs over it
20:06 Cprossu the risk-reward is too little
20:06 Seroster YES!
20:07 Seroster New GG vid out
20:07 Cprossu also Experimentonomen that motherboard
20:07 Experimentonomen so u think the 1500sek parts will be cheaper ?
20:07 Cprossu stay away
20:07 Cprossu it's not very good at all
20:08 Cprossu it's the cheapest of the cheap, badly designed, and doesn't seem to function properly
20:08 Cprossu =(
20:09 Experimentonomen well i guess the next one up in price is still cheaper than the online ordering when u count in shipping and other fees
20:09 Experimentonomen unless all the mobos he sell are crap
20:09 Cprossu specifically though Experimentonomen
20:10 Cprossu the onboard video seems pooched
20:10 Cprossu from the factory
20:10 Seroster Cprossu, Getting used to SEK yet?
20:11 Experimentonomen too bad the parts u posted were not all on one store
20:11 Cprossu not really Seroster
20:11 Experimentonomen had they all been one store i would only have needed to pay shipping once, but since one of them is from komplett, i'd have to pay shipping twice
20:12 Cprossu ASUS M5A87 AM3+ ATX AMD 870 <- of the mobos I'd get there
20:12 Seroster It's just one to six or one to seven
20:13 Cprossu there's a tipping point where you go from awesome to shitty Experimentonomen, and you don't pay much more to get awesome if you catch my drift
20:14 Experimentonomen 1975 sek total for that other asus mobo
20:14 Experimentonomen assuming u were happy with the cpu and ram i picked out
20:14 Experimentonomen atleast i wouldent need any shipping
20:14 KB3NZQ UPS  Just fucked up by leaveing a Tempture sensitive package at the wrong address thay left it at 55 crossvale street   it was ment for 55 almira street
20:15 Cprossu http://www.oc.nu/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html http://www.oc.nu/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3-am3-amd760g-m-atx-pci-e-audio-gblan-raid.html http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=604394
20:15 mashpriborintorg it's a common failure mode for UPS
20:15 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Corsair Value S. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB CL9
20:15 Experimentonomen but knowing the guy, hes prolly gonna start preaching how the cheaper mobo is better and what not
20:15 Cprossu ^ how much shipping Experimentonomen would you pay?
20:15 Experimentonomen none is possible
20:16 Cprossu well that total is 1500 sek right?
20:16 Cprossu or rather 1490
20:16 Experimentonomen for the parts u picked out on oc and komplett ?
20:16 Cprossu yes
20:17 Cprossu if I did my math right
20:17 Experimentonomen well those are online order so thats easily atleast half the price more for shipping alone
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20:17 Cprossu are you shitting me Experimentonomen?!?!?!
20:18 Cprossu Seroster can you explain that to me?
20:18 Experimentonomen and the prices they spec are prolly excluding VAT as well
20:18 Seroster What?
20:18 Seroster .c 100USD to SEK
20:18 BotSteve 675.278721 Swedish kronor
20:18 Seroster .c 100SEK to USD
20:18 BotSteve 14.8087 U.S. dollars
20:18 Cprossu how the shipping on something on a sweedish online site can be 1/2 of it's price
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20:18 Cprossu in sweeden
20:18 Cprossu *sweden
20:18 Seroster Oh, that
20:18 Seroster Retards.
20:18 Cprossu I can't tell
20:19 Cprossu Seroster could you see how much shipping would be on those things?
20:19 Seroster Why shipping is expensive? Because it's heavy as fuck and nobody wants to move it
20:19 Seroster Depends on the things... What kinda things, and how far?
20:19 Cprossu damnit Seroster you ain't helping
20:19 Cprossu just some computer parts Seroster
20:19 Seroster ...That could be anything from RAM to motherboards
20:19 Cprossu nothing that weighs over 7lb
20:20 Cprossu a motherboard, a proc, and some ram Seroster
20:20 Seroster Righto, international or within the borders?
20:20 Cprossu click the three links
20:20 Cprossu within borders
20:21 Seroster About 150-200SEK with the postal service.
20:21 Cprossu .c 200sek to usd
20:21 BotSteve 29.6174 U.S. dollars
20:22 Cprossu so hopefully the total would still be below 1800sek then
20:22 Seroster And that isn't some FedEx bullshit, when it arrives it will be mint.
20:22 Seroster Most likely, yes.
20:23 Experimentonomen and crap i dont have a usb keyboard so theres another 200sek minimum
20:23 Cprossu Experimentonomen: any way for you to get the shipping quote online from oc or komplett?
20:23 Seroster Could be cheaper with bus shipping. From what town to what town, is it a company selling or is it a private person?
20:23 Cprossu Seroster: click thise links: http://www.oc.nu/athlon-ii-x3-455-box-am3.html http://www.oc.nu/asus-m5a78l-m-usb3-am3-amd760g-m-atx-pci-e-audio-gblan-raid.html http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=604394
20:23 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se - Corsair Value S. DDR3 1333MHz 4GB CL9
20:23 Cprossu 2 objects form one site, 1 from another.
20:24 Seroster Corsair? I didnt know they made shit for <4000sek a piece
20:24 Cprossu ram is from komplett, the mobo and CPU from oc.nu
20:24 Cprossu Seroster: it's just ram
20:25 Seroster The RAM from komplett will cost 59SEK (10bucks) to your door
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20:25 Seroster That's a total of about 250SEK, 18bucks or so
20:26 Seroster Having the CPU sent is 47SEK to the door, like 7 bucks.
20:26 Experimentonomen i could put together a shopping cart at oc and see what they suggest for shipping
20:26 Cprossu Experimentonomen: yes =D
20:27 Cprossu though oc has expensive ram lol
20:27 Cprossu unless I missed it
20:27 Seroster http://www.oc.nu/checkout/onepage
20:27 BotSteve Title: Kassan - Overclockers - oc.nu
20:27 Seroster Crap. That wont work.
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20:27 Seroster Total 1384SEK
20:28 HighMan_MFT_Cell Hey
20:28 Experimentonomen 1348sek for the cpu and mobo shipping included
20:28 Cprossu kickass Experimentonomen :D
20:28 Seroster .c 1384SEK to USD
20:28 BotSteve 204.952408 U.S. dollars
20:29 HighMan_MFT_Cell .w sek
20:29 BotSteve "The krona (plural: kronor; sign: kr; code: SEK) has been the currency of Sweden since 1873." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_krona
20:29 Experimentonomen so 1941SEK total with the parts in my hands
20:29 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ah ok lol
20:29 Cprossu Experimentonomen: how much is the ram at your local shop?
20:29 Cprossu (looks)
20:30 Seroster Cprossu, Are you going to have Experimentonomen ship the shit to you? xD
20:30 Experimentonomen http://www.arbdata.se/datorpris2.htm
20:30 Cprossu hell no
20:30 BotSteve Title: ÅRB DATASYSTEM AB
20:30 Cprossu I am going to have him build it
20:30 Cprossu he'll be fine
20:30 Seroster Trying to figure out what the heck you are trying to do
20:31 HighMan_MFT_Cell Cprossu, HD giving me high pitch braile....
20:31 Seroster Acess all the information you can and backup it NOW
20:31 Cprossu sp the 4gb ram is it 220 or 275?
20:31 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ok. Lol
20:32 Experimentonomen the higher price is
20:32 Experimentonomen TAV inclujded
20:32 Experimentonomen VAT*
20:32 Cprossu ahhh
20:33 Cprossu so just the mobo and the CPU to your door is 1941 or 1384?
20:33 Experimentonomen i currently have 9775SEK on my account and before this month is over i have 3700sek rent then unknown amount in other bills
20:33 Experimentonomen 1348
20:34 Experimentonomen and i have an eventual 6000sek think that a place called försäkringskassan might want me to pay back due to an error
20:34 Cprossu so 1348 from oc site and 275 from your local shop for ram = 1623?
20:34 Experimentonomen that im waiting on an answer on
20:34 Experimentonomen ya
20:34 Cprossu fair enough
20:34 Experimentonomen so u see why i cant really spend anything right now
20:34 Cprossu yeah for sure
20:35 Cprossu at least we know it's possible to get you running something good though
20:35 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.santarosa.edu/~spud/ Hmmm i wonder how much it would cost to Machine one of these out of Steel....
20:35 BotSteve Title: Supah-Style Valve
20:35 Cprossu for not too much money
20:35 Experimentonomen if it wasent for that 6000sek thing im waiting for an answer on if it'll happen or not, then i could prolly have found a way to spend those 1700sek
20:35 Cprossu understandable Experimentonomen :D
20:36 Experimentonomen though this still assumes i use the rest of the system i already have such as the box, psu and gfx card
20:36 Cprossu still 1700 sek is a far cry from the 8,000 sek you were expecting right?
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20:36 Cprossu you can't reuse your graphics
20:36 Seroster Wow
20:36 Seroster The capacitor video
20:36 Electricguy hi hi BitViper_Lappy  and Guardianzozo
20:36 Experimentonomen why ?
20:37 Experimentonomen wrong port ?
20:37 Seroster I wouldnt want to get a 5000buck camera anywhere NEAR an angle grinder
20:37 Cprossu but there will be onboard until you can geet a good graphics card @ Experimentonomen
20:37 Seroster Those damn sparks eat glass..
20:37 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lol
20:37 Cprossu it will certainly take care of minecraft for you heh
20:37 mashpriborintorg BUT we have the sweet voice from Liz in the video :p
20:37 HighMan_MFT_Cell Nom o(╯□╰)o
20:38 mashpriborintorg Chris probably borked the clothes he was wearting that day
20:38 HighMan_MFT_Cell And his nose
20:39 Seroster Anything he didnt fuck up?
20:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell Dignity?
20:39 angy his nose is perfect!
20:39 Experimentonomen btw Cprossu, saw any gfx cards on that årbdata site that u think is worth anything ?
20:39 Cprossu no.
20:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell It stank angy
20:39 Experimentonomen all crap ?
20:39 Cprossu they are all overpriced
20:42 Experimentonomen btw that mobo u linked to only supports up to dual core cpu
20:42 Cprossu no it doesn't
20:42 Experimentonomen it sez so in the specs
20:42 Cprossu unless someone specced it wrong
20:43 Experimentonomen Kompatibla processorerSempron, Phenom II Dual-Core Mobile, Athlon II Dual-Core
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20:44 Experimentonomen i actually had a sempron cpu the last months i had a stationary some years ago
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20:44 Experimentonomen i think it said sempron 3000+ on the box
20:44 Cprossu http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/M5A78LM_LX/#CPUS
20:44 BotSteve Title: ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS M5A78L-M LX
20:45 Experimentonomen but since i went laptop aftyer replacing the mobo a thirt time in a few months i gave the cpu and ram away for free on a forum
20:45 Cprossu hehe
20:46 lwq_laptop hello everyone
20:46 Experimentonomen thats not the same mobo
20:46 Experimentonomen thats a diff model
20:47 Cprossu http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/M5A78LMUSB3/#CPUS
20:47 Cprossu ^ oops!
20:47 BotSteve Title: ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3
20:48 Cprossu try that one Experimentonomen
20:48 Cprossu "Phenom IIX6 1100T(HDE00ZFBK6DGR),3.3GHz,125W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core"
20:48 Cprossu I think it's good to go
20:49 lwq_laptop i want to get a asus eee
20:49 Cprossu FX-8150(FD8150FRW8KGU),3.6GHz,8C,125W,rev.B2G,AM3+
20:50 Cprossu ^ basically that motherboard sets you up for nearly anything Experimentonomen
20:50 Experimentonomen so oc just picked a few cpus on top of the list them
20:50 Experimentonomen too lazy to list all i guess
20:50 Cprossu heheh
20:51 Cprossu but yeah that's a kickbutt board
20:52 Experimentonomen too bad i dont have grounds enuf to be able to legitimately ask for cash donations, i so envy those that get cash donations from ppl just for uploading minecraft lets play videos to youtube
20:52 Experimentonomen though if i did get such it'd feel so wrong that i just couldent accept it anyways
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20:54 Experimentonomen actually it looks like i dont need a usb keyboard, looks like that mobo has a ps/2 mouse/kbd connector
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20:56 Experimentonomen and holy shit up to 12 usb ports :o
20:58 Experimentonomen anyways maybe i'll have the cash when that mobo is back in stock
21:04 lwq_laptop my dads an idiot -.-
21:04 lwq_laptop hes saying that microsoft is a program
21:06 speedrunnerG55 ... If microsoft is a program.... Then what runs it?
21:07 Seroster Spent one and a half hour of buffering for that 20min vid
21:07 speedrunnerG55 I mean windows
21:09 Seroster PONKO!
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21:12 wannabe|tgg wb
21:13 Experimentonomen blah my fucking piece of shit connections sucks dicks
21:16 Electricguy it's a 3G stick. what do you excpect?
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21:18 wannabe|tgg omni!
21:19 Electricguy ruff!
21:19 Experimentonomen meow
21:19 wannabe|tgg one messed up dog....
21:19 Electricguy Omni is one damn awesome puppy! :P
21:19 Ponko back from my curry
21:19 BotSteve ponko: I have the following messages for you:
21:19 wannabe|tgg ik
21:19 BotSteve At 21:09Z, Seroster asked me to tell ponko HEY! Check out the capacitor equipment autopsy video, you are going to be SO fucking aroused! It's all oil and "Big folds" =D
21:20 Seroster HAHAHAHAHAHA =D
21:20 angy that was a nice fail
21:20 Electricguy aroused over a blown pulse cap? hmmm
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21:20 Ponko -_-
21:20 angy evening lovely islander
21:21 Ponko *sigh*
21:21 angy hello P'ky
21:21 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | Subchannels, #Tgg:NSFW #Tgg:Controversial #Tgg:Guns #Tgg:Astronomy and probably more. | Would you pay USD $0.50 to put a message on the LCD board? | Site maintenance = very yes
21:21 Electricguy very okey!
21:21 Seroster electricguy Ponko likes folds.
21:21 Ponko Seroster no just no
21:22 Ponko i'd explain but it would still go over your head
21:23 dr_jkl sorry for the downtime guys
21:23 dr_jkl i just couldn't schedule this for the middle of the night
21:23 dr_jkl i'll try to be as quick as possible.
21:25 wannabe|tgg over which head, Ponko?
21:25 Seroster ....Damnit wannabe|tgg, nsfw chan =P
21:25 Ponko hahaha lol the one atop his shoulders and neck
21:36 wannabe|tgg .seen  ajprog_laptop
21:36 BotSteve wannabe|tgg: I last saw ajprog_laptop 18.49 hours ago at 2012-03-09 03:07:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:36:59 UTC
21:38 wannabe|tgg brb
21:38 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | Subchannels, #Tgg:NSFW #Tgg:Controversial #Tgg:Guns #Tgg:Astronomy and probably more. | Would you pay USD $0.50 to put a message on the LCD board?
21:38 * dr_jkl returns to her regularly scheduled programming
21:39 Experimentonomen oh i thought dr_jkl was a he O_o
21:39 wannabe|tgg lol
21:39 Electricguy lol.. me too
21:40 Electricguy as girls are so rare on IRC.. xD
21:40 wannabe|tgg not this irc...
21:40 Electricguy well. ok then xD
21:40 Electricguy who ir dr then? :P (her real name)
21:40 Experimentonomen Electricguy, i think thats cuz most girls use facebook
21:40 wannabe|tgg jessica, i think
21:41 Electricguy mkay
21:41 Electricguy no idea who Jessica is... xD
21:41 wannabe|tgg she's not here at the lab....she's off site
21:42 lwq_laptop soda gives you cancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cejoE9l4FCc&amp;feature=context&amp;context=G23c500cFUAAAAAAACAA
21:42 Electricguy ahh i see
21:42 BotSteve Title: Coke and Pepsi - Periodic Table of Videos - YouTube
21:42 wannabe|tgg no shit
21:44 Chipguy joined #thegeekgroup
21:45 wannabe|tgg i need to stop stabbing myself...
21:45 Sasha_ joined #thegeekgroup
21:45 Chipguy beep
21:46 wannabe|tgg hi Chipguy, Sasha_
21:46 Sasha_ Hi
21:46 Experimentonomen g'evenin Chipguy
21:46 Experimentonomen g'evenin Sasha_
21:46 Chipguy hey
21:47 Sasha_ Afaik I just found the most amazing value for 15$: http://i.imgur.com/1hEZy.png
21:47 Experimentonomen wannabe|tgg, why are you stabbing yourself ? :(
21:48 Experimentonomen american pie, YUUUUCKKK
21:49 Sasha_ Please take not of the SPEED, not the movie
21:50 wannabe|tgg because i'm removing plastic from copper wire
21:51 * Experimentonomen hands wannabe|tgg some wirestrippers
21:51 wannabe|tgg its been stompered....
21:53 Experimentonomen hm
22:04 lwq_laptop i should really clean out my computer
22:04 wannabe|tgg bbl
22:05 lwq_laptop bye bye :P
22:13 lwq_laptop my stickams going up guys
22:13 lwq_laptop doing a tutorial
22:13 lwq_laptop though i got to go to the bathroom
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22:19 lwq_laptop do,do,do
22:21 * Experimentonomen mumbles
22:22 lwq_laptop why
22:23 Experimentonomen because i can ? :P
22:24 lwq_laptop oh i though you had something to say
22:24 * Experimentonomen yawns
22:24 lwq_laptop let me guess bedtime for you?
22:25 Experimentonomen ya
22:25 lwq_laptop lol
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22:33 Experimentonomen .cookie Chipguy
22:33 BotSteve Here you go, Chipguy, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
22:33 Chipguy lol @ BotSteve
22:33 Chipguy :)
22:34 Experimentonomen whutz Chipguy up to ?
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22:42 Experimentonomen wb leewee
22:43 lwq1996 hello
22:46 HighMan joined #thegeekgroup
22:46 HighMan Hi
22:47 lwq1996 i see your computer is fixd
22:47 HighMan Yes, yes it is. I did a reformat as windows SFC was bithcing and half my program files was missing.
22:47 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
22:47 HighMan I followed mom's advice, and I still have all my needed files :)
22:48 HighMan And now I have to go away as I need to repartition my HD
22:50 HighMan_MFT_Cell Well i got my phone XD
22:51 HighMan_MFT_Cell .chip
22:51 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
22:52 HighMan_MFT_Cell Speed?
22:52 Experimentonomen Cprossu, is there a trick to knowing what computer parts are good and bad just from looking at the specs ?
22:52 speedrunnerG55 joined #thegeekgroup
22:53 HighMan_MFT_Cell Speed... You ok?
22:54 lwq1996 nope he puking up blood
22:54 tesla4d joined #thegeekgroup
22:54 lwq1996 hi tesla4d
22:54 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lol,  hi tesla
22:54 tesla4d HELLO
22:55 masterofmonks Spatula.
22:55 speed-mobile joined #thegeekgroup
22:55 Experimentonomen whats this spatula thing about
22:55 lwq1996 masteromonks your spatula isnt needed as of yet, you can put it away
22:56 HighMan_MFT_Cell WTF does that mean!
22:57 tesla4d Spatula city! Spatula city!... SPATULA CITY!!
22:57 lwq1996 high whats you phone?
22:57 HighMan_MFT_Cell What?
22:57 tehdark45 joined #thegeekgroup
22:58 lwq1996 what brand is your phone
22:58 HighMan_MFT_Cell Its a LG optimus T
22:58 lwq1996 is it android?
22:58 masterofmonks I have an Optimus V
22:58 HighMan_MFT_Cell Yes
22:58 lwq1996 nice
22:58 HighMan_MFT_Cell Newer
22:59 tehdark45 Mines is a Galaxy S
22:59 Experimentonomen aight its bedtime for me, g'nite peepz
22:59 tehdark45 lwq1996, i see you :P
22:59 lwq1996 i got no phone thats android
22:59 lwq1996 like that little message i sent you tehdark45
22:59 tehdark45 what you mean
22:59 lwq1996 i fliped you off :P
23:00 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lwq, what else can it be? It aint apple,  lg doesnt do blackberry or windows and i am on irc
23:00 tehdark45 it is Symbian
23:00 tehdark45 lolz
23:00 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:00 lwq1996 lol im comming after you tehdark
23:01 tehdark45 oh noes
23:01 masterofmonks I always misread that as something else tehdark45
23:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell I havent heard of that os ib a while
23:01 tehdark45 masterofmonks, wgat symbian?
23:01 tehdark45 what*
23:01 masterofmonks Ja.
23:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Hoes csvs noes?
23:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Oh...
23:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Symbols? Simba?
23:01 lwq1996 im going to the store, be back in an hour
23:02 tehdark45 nope
23:02 tehdark45 you wont be
23:02 lwq1996 yes i will
23:02 tehdark45 why are you going to the store
23:03 tehdark45 doesnt sound very fun
23:03 HighMan_MFT_Cell Sex store?
23:03 wannabe|tgg ....
23:03 * wannabe|tgg is back from going to the store(s) with dave....
23:03 HighMan_MFT_Cell Hi wannabe
23:03 wannabe|tgg hi
23:03 tehdark45 ahh a wannabe|tgg
23:04 HighMan_MFT_Cell Go yugio!
23:04 tehdark45 HighMan_MFT_Cell, over 9000
23:04 tehdark45 lolz
23:04 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:05 HighMan_MFT_Cell I suck Nd dont care forv that game
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23:05 HighMan_MFT_Cell *and for
23:05 tehdark45 it is a show genius >.<
23:05 HighMan_MFT_Cell Card game genious
23:06 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
23:06 tehdark45 a genious spells genius wrong after someone spelled it genius right before you
23:06 tehdark45 :P
23:07 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ji am on phone. Autocorrect ofc and this keyboard sucks
23:08 tehdark45 umm auto correct gives you the right spelling
23:08 tehdark45 >.>
23:08 HighMan_MFT_Cell I am still learning it, and its OFF
23:08 tehdark45 what phone is it
23:09 wannabe|tgg one that rings
23:09 tehdark45 wannabe|tgg, not all phones ring
23:09 tehdark45 :P
23:09 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lg optimus, no ext keyboard all touch screen except for like 3
23:10 HighMan_MFT_Cell *3 button
23:11 Cprossu tesla4d: Where'd you get that spatula?!
23:11 Cprossu (lol)
23:11 tehdark45 Cprossu, what is a ssu?
23:11 tehdark45 :P
23:11 Cprossu a noise you make when you sneeze and try and hold it in?
23:11 HighMan_MFT_Cell Monkeh cprossh i made spaks with +12v to case:)  Proud?
23:12 tehdark45 lol
23:12 tehdark45 spaks? are you australian HighMan_MFT_Cell ?
23:12 tehdark45 :P
23:13 HighMan_MFT_Cell HAHA *sparks
23:13 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: if my proud you mean a facepalm for what you were trying to say, and another for how you said it, then yes....proud....
23:13 Cprossu *my=by
23:13 Cprossu *<-FAIL
23:13 Cprossu well I am going to try and source a CPU for a computer I'll leave in grand rapids for myself
23:13 HighMan_MFT_Cell Lol only if it didnt shutoff...
23:13 Cprossu wish me luck
23:13 HighMan_MFT_Cell WAIT NO.
23:14 Cprossu wait no?
23:14 tehdark45 Cprossu, what? how
23:14 HighMan_MFT_Cell That would blow it up...
23:14 Cprossu (do you have a PhenomII 805+ or a spare AM3 cpu?)
23:14 HighMan_MFT_Cell I got one invisible
23:15 tehdark45 i dont have any cpu lying around lol
23:16 Cprossu my spare AM2+ motherboard already has a invisible CPU installed
23:16 Cprossu sadly it seems to be defective.
23:16 HighMan_MFT_Cell Trololol
23:16 HighMan_MFT_Cell Give it to stomper, it will be fixed right away.
23:17 tehdark45 HighMan_MFT_Cell, thumper
23:17 tehdark45 get your devices corrcet
23:17 tehdark45 :P
23:17 * wannabe|tgg got to hang out with BA today....w00t
23:17 wannabe|tgg hi cpro
23:18 tehdark45 wannabe|tgg, you hung out with a degree?
23:18 tehdark45 :P
23:18 wannabe|tgg nope.
23:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell No... chop it up fry in stomper then thumper then corrys bathroom
23:18 wannabe|tgg you're a SA
23:18 HighMan_MFT_Cell Tehdark34 lol
23:19 tehdark45 how is that funny?
23:20 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:20 Cprossu HighMan_MFT_Cell: never at the same time
23:21 Cprossu we don't want the foundation to crack
23:21 HighMan_MFT_Cell I am going to knock masterofmonks up along with tehdark45
23:21 Electricguy bedtime. night all
23:21 tehdark45 HighMan_MFT_Cell, uhhhh we are both guys, that is impossible
23:21 tehdark45 >.<
23:22 HighMan_MFT_Cell Its poasible, ⊙▽⊙
23:22 HighMan_MFT_Cell ( ^)o(^ )
23:23 Cprossu bbl parts shopping
23:24 HighMan_MFT_Cell Why the static noise from a speaker with the plug touchibng metal
23:28 tehdark45 HighMan_MFT_Cell, it is called conductiing
23:28 tehdark45 derp
23:29 HighMan_MFT_Cell I learned that, i ground myself with by foot and touch plug, remove fiot and its lower lol
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23:35 tonsofpcs tehdark45: what's he doing now?
23:35 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:35 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
23:35 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, he wonders why a trs hums when you touch it to metal
23:35 tonsofpcs it doesn't....
23:36 HighMan_MFT_Cell Connected to a speaker duhhhh
23:37 tonsofpcs erm... speakers are passive.
23:37 tonsofpcs I'm guessing you mean an amplifier...
23:37 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:37 HighMan_MFT_Cell Idk
23:38 tonsofpcs anyway, you're probably making an antenna
23:38 HighMan_MFT_Cell ...
23:39 HighMan_MFT_Cell My friend can sorta beatbox on this lol
23:39 tonsofpcs *switches selective ignore back on*
23:39 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
23:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell Klein
23:40 HighMan_MFT_Cell Kk
23:44 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
23:50 HighMan_MFT_Cell Splat.
23:55 HighMan_MFT_Cell Splatula
23:58 * masterofmonks Starts counting.

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