Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-11

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00:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Aark.
00:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Sark.
00:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Tark.
00:01 HighMan_MFT_Cell Eark.
00:02 HighMan_MFT_Cell Rark.
00:02 HighMan_MFT_Cell Ofark.
00:02 HighMan_MFT_Cell Fark.
00:02 HighMan_MFT_Cell was kicked by dr_jkl: less <CR><LF>, more content
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00:03 HighMan_MFT_Cell Almost done spelling something :(
00:03 dr_jkl do it again and it's a one day ban
00:03 tehdark45 Dark?
00:03 tehdark45 :P
00:03 HighMan_MFT_Cell Masterof.....
00:03 Monkeh dr_jkl: Content, HighMan?
00:03 tehdark45 lol
00:04 HighMan_MFT_Cell Content≠Highman
00:04 dr_jkl just type horizontally like the rest of us, jesus it's not that hard
00:05 tehdark45 dr_jkl, he is asian :P
00:05 HighMan_Cell Mft fixed...
00:05 Monkeh dr_jkl: But it won't make him say anything useful or interesting. ;)
00:05 Experimentonomen aight enuf for tonite
00:05 Experimentonomen nite peepz
00:05 HighMan_Cell Monkeh, its spelled monkey. tehdark45 its the.
00:05 HighMan_Cell Happy :)
00:06 tehdark45 The brits have a word for you highman
00:06 tehdark45 Dolt
00:06 HighMan_Cell I got one unlike you.
00:06 dr_jkl everyone
00:07 dr_jkl get along, dammit
00:07 Monkeh dr_jkl: We do. Badly. ;)
00:07 HighMan_Cell XD
00:07 dr_jkl lol see this is why i love you
00:07 tehdark45 monkeh, agree to disagree?
00:08 Monkeh tehdark45: With you or HighMan?
00:08 tehdark45 hy
00:08 HighMan_Cell Yes?
00:09 Monkeh There can be no agreement of any kind.
00:09 tehdark45 lol
00:10 HighMan_Cell Ok, monkeh don't lick 500 12v dupercaps in parallel at terminals.
00:10 HighMan_Cell *supercaps
00:10 tehdark45 i love me some dupercaps
00:10 HighMan_Cell Dopedcaps
00:14 HighMan_Cell Lets dance!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡!¡
00:15 HighMan_Cell ¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?
00:15 HighMan_Cell Lol
00:15 tehdark45 facepalm
00:15 HighMan_Cell XD
00:16 tehdark45 you dont like being here do you?
00:16 HighMan_Cell Me? I'm bored.
00:17 eadthem ###    -
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00:17 eadthem i win
00:17 HighMan_Cell What that?
00:17 PacketHumper Greetings fleshy bags of mostly water.  How are you all today?
00:17 HighMan_Cell Nit humping at least
00:18 HighMan_Cell *Not
00:18 eadthem good how are you small serilised data object ?
00:18 PacketHumper I'm 010010
00:18 tehdark45 im 111111111
00:19 HighMan_Cell I'm 0101242101
00:19 HighMan_Cell ;)
00:19 eadthem anyone tryed visual studio 2011 yet?
00:19 tehdark45 no
00:19 tehdark45 you?
00:19 eadthem no
00:19 eadthem was trying to find out if it was horrably slower than the horrably slower vc2010
00:19 tehdark45 lol
00:21 eadthem google hits for visual studio 2011 slow   are of  visual studio 2010 slow
00:21 PacketHumper I'm trying to find a half way decent time lapse software or camera that can do it.
00:21 eadthem google hits for visual studio 2011 fast   are scatterd around randomly   indicating poor or no on target results
00:24 tehdark45 lool
00:25 Seroster eadthem, you win the douchebag awards.
00:26 PacketHumper i have a buddy that uses it.  he said it's pretty much the same unless you buy a newer faster pc.
00:27 eadthem ?
00:27 PacketHumper best answer i could give on it though it's 3rd party
00:30 PacketHumper any other photogeeks on now that do photography or time lapse photography?
00:31 eadthem ya i had a fealing
00:31 eadthem vc2010   gutted and stripped down  works great as a compiler interface
00:31 tehdark45 Cprossu, teamspeak are looking for you
00:32 tehdark45 lol
00:32 eadthem but i use codelite now for all code editing    because its code compleation dosent suck   and its as fast as alkapad
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01:02 Ender Lo all
01:02 Ender what is this?
01:02 Ender http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/20120311015038.jpg/
01:03 BotSteve Title: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting
01:03 Ender http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/20120311015102.jpg/
01:03 BotSteve Title: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting
01:03 Ender guessing inverter
01:03 Ender found them in a pile of junk at work
01:04 PacketHumper looks liek an inverter with 2 relays.
01:05 Ender What are those plates?
01:05 PacketHumper ah, yah.  it's one of those cheap power inverters
01:05 PacketHumper batteries probably
01:05 PacketHumper lithium ion or lithium polymer
01:05 tehdark45 imageshack? eww
01:05 Ender old world of warcraft account :D
01:06 PacketHumper guessing it's one that provides 12v/5v to a usb as well.
01:06 PacketHumper i can't find any model numbers on it
01:06 Ender hm, so what are the batteries doing?
01:06 PacketHumper that's what's puzzling me at the moment.
01:07 PacketHumper they used to make small ones that were for charging phones/cameras and were small and compact.  not all of them had ac outlets.
01:08 PacketHumper i just see a small charging circuit, simple rectifier, a small transformer, and a relay
01:08 PacketHumper didn't realize i could zoom in
01:09 lwq_laptop wow my girlfriend said she misses me and loves me ^.^
01:10 Seroster gimme a sec ender
01:10 PacketHumper Ender: do you have a pic with the full model number on that board?
01:10 Ender sec shooting back
01:11 Seroster That would be an inverter PSU
01:11 Seroster The thing to the far right is just a piece of metal wrapped in tape, eh?
01:12 Seroster Btw, you got an USB outlet on it, so I suppose it's mains in, converts to five volts and feeds to the usb hub
01:12 PacketHumper i'm going to say cyberpower battery backup
01:12 Seroster The two big yellow plates are either batteries OR just two big pieces of metal foil used for shielding
01:13 PacketHumper could be.
01:13 PacketHumper the model number hrs 841 comes back as some type of inverter/power distro board used in several toys.
01:13 Seroster I'm willing to bet they are not batteries, I doubt they are more than a millimeter thick.
01:13 PacketHumper one of which is listed as an underwater location beacon
01:14 PacketHumper Seroster: you could be right.  they could be part of something that's missing... they could be antenna?
01:14 PacketHumper what does your work do ender?
01:14 Seroster Batteires are round, there would be groves on the plates if they were hiding something round.
01:14 PacketHumper that might help
01:15 PacketHumper some lipol batteries aren't round.
01:15 Seroster True that, but they want to be!
01:15 PacketHumper lol in the end they do their best to become round.
01:15 Seroster Ender, Are you there?
01:15 PacketHumper i think you are right Seroster, they seem to be too thin for a battery though i've seen some pretty thin lipols
01:16 PacketHumper whatever it is, it is ground seems pretty important.
01:16 Seroster Judging by the overall appearance and the fact that it's supposed to be connected to mains I doubt anyone would favour lipo over other cheaper battery types.
01:16 PacketHumper which could mean water related or RF
01:17 PacketHumper Seroster: that's what's baffling me
01:17 PacketHumper there should be a - and 3-4 more digits in the model number
01:17 Ender http://imageshack.us/f/32/20120311015102.jpg/
01:17 BotSteve Title: ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting
01:17 Ender yeah im here Seroster
01:17 Seroster How thick are the two yellow plates?
01:17 Ender was uploading pic
01:17 PacketHumper Ender: do you have it with you right now?
01:18 Seroster Like half a millimeter or something?
01:18 Ender jupp
01:18 PacketHumper ok so it's not a battery.
01:18 Seroster RF shield for sure!
01:18 PacketHumper and the wire is yellow....
01:18 Seroster Either that or it is a russian spy device :>
01:18 PacketHumper if it was rf shield though it would be grounded with green wire
01:19 PacketHumper unless it's a filtered ground which would mean rf shielding.
01:19 Seroster Ender, How many leads was in the wire leading to the device? (Two or three?)
01:19 PacketHumper aha found it
01:19 Seroster Nah, I've seen RF shielding done with any and all colours
01:19 PacketHumper no-brand inverter
01:20 Seroster That transformer is REALLY cheaply mounted, doesn't look supported at all
01:20 PacketHumper top and bottom plates for rf shielding, ground is suppsed to go to the outlet portion which is missing.
01:20 Seroster Link to datasheet?
01:21 Ender I found this in the e-garbage at work. my first thought was, dc/ac inverter
01:21 Seroster I doubt that
01:21 Seroster Is it supposed to be connected to mains?
01:21 PacketHumper http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/accessories/acmobile-power/cps175surc1.html
01:21 BotSteve Title: Mobile Power Inverters - CPS175SURC1
01:21 Ender One side is clearly output to a socket
01:22 Ender the other is just two wires
01:22 PacketHumper you are missing the outlet portion on the output
01:22 Seroster AH
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01:22 Seroster It's for mounting in a car
01:22 Ender then there is an "led power on/off switch
01:22 PacketHumper yup
01:22 Ender and a ground i think
01:22 PacketHumper ground is for the outlets
01:22 Seroster Gives you both 120vAc out and 5vDC(USB) out.
01:23 PacketHumper which explains why the ground for the rf shield is a different color
01:23 Seroster I wonder what it uses as ground, car body (cathode)?
01:23 PacketHumper usually nothing.
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01:23 PacketHumper on many of these devices there isn't even a pin for the ground.  so it's either cathode or nothing.
01:24 Ender In Norway that ground part is conected to the input part of the plug, so yeah i think the plug is just missing
01:24 Seroster Where are you from, ender?
01:24 PacketHumper ok back to a little more research.  i've narrowed it down from  27 cameras to 3
01:25 Seroster What kind of research?
01:25 Ender Norway
01:25 Seroster But those are american outlets on the picture.... =P
01:25 PacketHumper i was just typing that
01:25 Ender huh
01:25 Ender od
01:25 Ender d
01:26 Seroster Im thinking about scrapping my 40pound VFD, but I haven't got a camera.
01:26 PacketHumper well we now know which side of the input is neg. lol
01:26 Seroster Ender, Might be made in china and then customised
01:26 PacketHumper i'm tired of missing awesome shots because my d300 is setup taking time lapses.
01:27 Seroster If you look at the transformer it's center tapped, so either you get 220v 1a or 110v 2a out, depending on where you tap your power
01:27 PacketHumper Seroster: that's my guess.  there were a lot of manufacturers who listed that beginning part number.  all of them dealing with inverters/battery backups
01:28 PacketHumper except one which used it in an underwater location beacon.
01:28 Seroster What does the D300 retail nowdays?
01:28 PacketHumper not sure.  i really want a d300s
01:29 PacketHumper there are times when i can't put my dslr down fast enough to pick up a video camera when my nieces and nephews are doing something funny.
01:29 PacketHumper it's been the best camera i've ever owned.  not once has it ever let me down in any way.
01:29 Ender @seroster might be, as i said it was just some e-trash i thought id adopt.  Oh and i think someone asked: I work at a company that do everything from cabling in Rolls-Royce engines to iron grates :P
01:29 PacketHumper looks like around $1500 us
01:30 lwq_laptop tehdark45: you still on?
01:30 Seroster Wow, that aint half bad!
01:30 tehdark45 nope
01:30 PacketHumper considering what i paid for it the day it came out. lol
01:30 PacketHumper it's holding value rather nicely
01:30 Seroster Ender, Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against dumpster diving, it's a great way of learning how shit works ;P
01:30 PacketHumper lol true
01:31 PacketHumper it's already trash so you can screw with it and not feel bad when it poofs smoke.
01:31 Seroster I got a Nikon D60 wich is probably in germany right now for repairs
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01:31 lwq_laptop tehdarks got a skype!!!!!!!
01:31 PacketHumper i've gotten lucky, i've got a d50, 2 d80's and my d300.  none of them ever failed me
01:32 Seroster I prefer working on stuff that is broken, when tweaking something that is only half broken you can end up REALLY fucking shit up =P
01:32 PacketHumper lol
01:32 Ender @Seroster I just see shiny! When shiny electronics blink at me i melt. And adopt them quicker then "jolie"
01:32 PacketHumper ok back to finding out where i can go play with one of these cameras in store and break theirs.
01:33 Seroster PacketHumper, I got the extra insurance on that camera, which has allowed me to bring it Evrywhere, canoing, climbing, camping, festivals, changing lenses in sandstorms... =P
01:33 tehdark45 .minecraft
01:33 BotSteve tehdark45: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
01:33 BotSteve tehdark45: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
01:33 lwq_laptop tehdark whats your skype name?
01:34 Seroster Ender, Lol. I got this huge local dumpster that there's always a lot of other people around, they pick for profit, I pick as a hobby, both to learn, because I like fixing stuff and because I like turning screws counter clockwise=P
01:35 PacketHumper Seroster: lol i never got any insurance on it and i drag it everywhere
01:35 PacketHumper even through thunderstorms with pooring rain.
01:35 PacketHumper though it's weather sealed so as long as i don't drop it in water it's fine.
01:35 PacketHumper though i am a seal nut.  it gets checked every time before i go out and when i come back to make sure they are all in tact.
01:36 PacketHumper not a single scratch on her.  looks exactly like the day i got her.
01:36 Seroster I want a ND4 or ND3X
01:36 PacketHumper other than the shutter release is starting to look smooth.
01:37 PacketHumper yah i don't have the money to drop on a d4.
01:37 Seroster I don't have the money to drop a D4. =P
01:37 PacketHumper but that would mean all new lenses.
01:37 PacketHumper lol
01:37 Seroster 200JPEG buffer
01:37 Seroster Dual cards
01:37 PacketHumper i only shoot in raw
01:37 Seroster Fully water sealedd
01:38 Ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKHq1FkQjsA&amp;list=UU2DjFE7Xf11URZqWBigcVOQ&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plcp
01:38 PacketHumper the d300 is too
01:38 BotSteve Title: EEVblog #256 - Yamaha PSR-80 Keyboard Teardown - YouTube
01:38 Ender if anyone's interested.
01:38 PacketHumper i never thought i'd buy a samsung camera but this one really isn't bad.
01:38 Seroster Kevlar/carbon fiber shutter <333
01:38 PacketHumper HMX-H304 Samsung
01:40 Seroster Is that you, Ender?
01:41 PacketHumper Ender: does your name come from ender wiggin?
01:42 tehdark45 enderman from MC
01:42 tehdark45 lol
01:42 Ender No its not me, but the guy has some awesome tutorials.
01:43 Seroster Yeah.
01:43 Seroster But since it's not you I can say "God damn his voice is annoying" without you being offended ;)
01:43 Ender "Sometimes lies are more dependable than the truth" -Ender
01:44 Ender yeah Ender Wiggin is where my name is from
01:45 Ender Hehehehe yeah his voice is sooo naisal (<-spelling) but you get used to it :D
01:45 Seroster I think it's spelled nasal.
01:45 Seroster Oh, he pronounces "soldering" like "soodherin"
01:46 masterofmonks It's not the nasal that is the problem, it's that he is terribly singsong.
01:47 Seroster Wow, part 1 of his three part soldering series is thirty minutes '-'
01:47 tehdark45 Seroster, it is better than american saaduring
01:47 PacketHumper well i'm about to drive an hour to save $70 lol
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01:48 Ender I was one of the followers of "photonicinduction" and when he left youtube I thought id see what the opposition had to say for themselves. Quickly found out he was talking out of his ass, and just been having a bad day.
01:49 Seroster So you came here because of the fit photy threw at chris?
01:49 Seroster I never watched Photy, mostly since I couldn't stand his voice.
01:49 tehdark45 O_o
01:49 masterofmonks Ok, he mentions the "Old school electronics smell" and suddenly I was smelling that....
01:50 Ender He has really good video guides for beginners, some odd mistakes though. But a good info for beginners like myself.
01:51 Seroster Ender, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhzpFqXwdA&amp;feature=plcp&amp;context=C472e814VDvjVQa1PpcFNySx0DZPIh6XAQCjn5yxmj-wAgsjVii5c=
01:51 BotSteve Title: Diode Tutorial & How to build an AC to DC power supply - YouTube
01:51 Ender yeah photon quieting made me aware of "the geek group's" presence
01:51 Seroster Afrotechmods, LISTEN TO THE VOICE!
01:52 Ender Yeah subscribed his channel. Awesome stuff
01:52 Seroster For some reason that is very important to me, I don't give a damn if you are the smartest man alive if I cringe whenever I hear you speak.
01:52 Seroster * As is the case with Stephen Hawking. Can't stand listening to him.
01:53 masterofmonks Seroster, what about Carl Sagan?
01:53 Ender But I still am in need of an oscilloscope..
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01:53 tehdark45 Seroster, does your roflcopter go soi soi soi?
01:53 tehdark45 :P
01:53 lwq1996 i think i got another tick ;/
01:53 tehdark45 tick?
01:54 Ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akek6cFRZfY&amp;feature=player_embedded
01:54 BotSteve Title: Symphony of Science - Onward to the Edge! - YouTube
01:54 Seroster masterofmonks, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0 That voice is very nice to listen to
01:54 BotSteve Title: Cosmos - Carl Sagan - 4th Dimension - YouTube
01:54 lwq1996 wow tehdark doesnt know what a tick is 0.0
01:54 masterofmonks Seroster, yes, I could listen to him read a grocery list.
01:54 lwq1996 its a incect that goes into the skin
01:54 tehdark45 ok that kind
01:55 tehdark45 I thought you ment tourettes or something
01:55 lwq1996 lol
01:55 lwq1996 its somewhere i cant say on the irc
01:55 masterofmonks lwq1996, What's a warble?
01:55 lwq1996 .g warble
01:55 BotSteve lwq1996: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/warble
01:55 lwq1996 .wiki warble
01:55 Seroster masterofmonks, I want people to speak decent english, don't really care if it is australian, american or brittish (unless it's cockney, texan or hillbilly), not nasal and not shrill.
01:55 BotSteve "Warble fly is a name given to the genus Hypoderma, large flies which are parasitic on cattle and deer." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warble
01:56 tehdark45 Seroster, i ait avin it :P
01:56 Seroster /kick tehdark45 annoyin accents beware.
01:57 Seroster masterofmonks, I'm not even bothered by this accent; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4
01:57 Seroster Or even the accent of biogirl23
01:57 lwq1996 bionerd23?
01:58 Seroster Ah, my bad,.
02:01 Seroster masterofmonks, Next on the list of people I can listen to reading grocery lists; Afrotechmods, TheAmazingAtheist, Professor Marty Poliakoff (Periodictableofvideos) and anyone with a deep melodic voice
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02:01 Ender The universe is made of:
02:02 masterofmonks Seroster, what about Phil Hellenes?
02:02 Seroster Dunno, never slept with him.
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02:02 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk
02:02 Ender 12 particles of matter
02:02 BotSteve Title: Science Saved My Soul. - YouTube
02:03 Ender 4 forces of nature
02:03 Seroster However, I Would sleep with him if given the opportunity.
02:03 Seroster Like his voice too
02:04 Ender nn all going to bed
02:04 Seroster cya ender
02:04 Seroster Nice kid
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02:07 tehdark45 it is bitViper
02:07 masterofmonks injektion, you needed me?
02:07 tehdark45 and injektion
02:07 masterofmonks Seroster, he also writes very well, Phil Hellenes that is.
02:07 injektion I needed you yesterday but nevermind now
02:08 masterofmonks Yeah, I kept missing you by a minute or two.
02:08 Seroster Anyway
02:08 Seroster cya
02:08 Seroster gioodnight
02:08 injektion masterofmonks: I had an issue yesterday and I did not know if I should of gone to the ER or not
02:09 masterofmonks Did you?
02:09 injektion No
02:09 masterofmonks What was going on?
02:10 injektion Thursday at work I was standing directly at the filler while a proprietary blend of tricolor and some trade secret chemicals
02:11 injektion Thursday after work and Friday I felt horrible and was dizzy
02:12 masterofmonks Get a doctor dude.
02:13 injektion You think it's that serious?
02:13 injektion I had the option of going home before trichlor and boron hell but I needed the money
02:14 egrsteve hello
02:14 masterofmonks I think that $40-$60 a month for a monthly visit  and talking to your doctor about your working conditions will give you a leg to stand on if something does happen.
02:15 injektion I get paid so little and not much around here pays much better
02:16 epictang0 masterofmonks: solid advice
02:17 masterofmonks I know, but answer this question, how many times have you coughed up your lungs in the past 5 months?
02:17 masterofmonks epictang0, I try.
02:19 injektion masterofmonks: A lot
02:19 masterofmonks Don't you think that might be causing permenant damage?
02:20 masterofmonks On a scale of exposure you are being exposed to far fewer things than I was, but I know the things you are, and that is some seriously rough crap.
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02:21 injektion I know the manufacturers of all the chemicals
02:21 masterofmonks At least you don't have 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T there.
02:21 injektion Except for the "trichlor chop"
02:22 masterofmonks Or hexafluorosilicic acid....
02:23 injektion FMC for the bicarbonate, soda ash, and lithium hypochlorite
02:23 * masterofmonks suddenly has his hair stand on end.
02:23 injektion Jones and Hamilton for the sodium bisulfate
02:23 masterofmonks I can't belive I worked with that shit.
02:24 injektion Lithium hypochlorite?
02:24 injektion I don't know who makes the Potassium monopersulfate
02:24 masterofmonks Moslty the 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T
02:24 masterofmonks mostly*
02:24 epictang0 I had a contract with Cytec for 2 years...their plants are dirty as hell...I refused to renew their contract based on stuff I was getting exposed to...
02:25 injektion OxyChem for most of the chlorine chemicals
02:25 masterofmonks epictang0, what were you doing?
02:25 epictang0 and the worst part is i had to find out myself...where was no disclosure...
02:25 injektion Like ACL56 and ACL90
02:25 epictang0 I was doing IT work for them...mostly automation
02:25 masterofmonks Ah, I was a hazmat chemist.
02:25 HighMan_Cell Pin
02:25 HighMan_Cell Yay, hazmat
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02:26 masterofmonks Which is generally Opening a drum and gonig "fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, Shit red smoke, fuck, fuck, fuck."
02:27 injektion Is sodium bromide harmful on its own?
02:27 HighMan_Cell Lol, was it fun/exciting at all?
02:27 injektion Or do you need dichlor to activate it?
02:27 HighMan_Cell Acid to water always right?
02:28 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YZJt_Bw3eo&amp;feature=related
02:28 Hackbat O.o
02:28 masterofmonks injektion, it is low toxcitiy, ld50 3.5g/kw for rats.
02:28 BotSteve Title: Frog Legs Dancing With A Little Salt - YouTube
02:28 masterofmonks kg*
02:28 HighMan_Cell .element @masterofmonks
02:28 BotSteve Here you go, @masterofmonks, I'm giving you 444 kilograms of pure Cadmium !
02:28 masterofmonks Oh, great a toxic heavy metal....
02:28 epictang0 i got splashed with ECH by one of their old processes early in the contract...broke out pretty bad
02:29 HighMan_Cell Damn
02:29 epictang0 from then on i refused to work on anything at their plants that was still in operation...
02:29 HighMan_Cell How about some barium?
02:30 masterofmonks epictang0, I have have been standing on a warehouse floor that was thick with nitric acid vapor, which is this weird red colour.
02:31 epictang0 yep...they had that at their kzoo plant...and craploads of ammonia vapor
02:31 injektion masterofmonks: Sodium dichloro-s-triazinetrione 2893-78-9 82.5 %  sodium bromide 7647-15-6  14.7 %
02:31 HighMan_Cell About cadmium, the shrek glass cup promotion at McDonalds had trace amounts of cadmium in them
02:32 masterofmonks epictang0, I have grabbed the top of a 55 gallon steel drum and had the drum break in half on me.
02:32 epictang0 got me there...lol...which is why i stick to IT..lol
02:32 HighMan_Cell Mercury amalgamated?
02:32 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, no.
02:32 HighMan_Cell Rust?
02:33 masterofmonks Not exactly.
02:33 HighMan_Cell ...
02:33 injektion I was explained that for bromine to be effective you need chlorine
02:33 masterofmonks Rapid oxidation + corrosion
02:33 HighMan_Cell Ah ok, what was in it?
02:34 injektion But doesn't chorine + bromine generate more bromine?
02:34 HighMan_Cell Did you ever use a counter
02:34 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, what kind of counter?
02:34 HighMan_Cell Geiger
02:35 masterofmonks epictang0, Then there was the day when I picked up a glass jar and realized that I was holding 5lbs of white phosphorous, and it wasn't under water.
02:35 tehdark45 masterofmonks, O_O
02:35 HighMan_Cell Does that react under water...
02:35 masterofmonks And then there was the Uranyl Acetate incident...
02:35 injektion JFC masterofmonks
02:36 HighMan_Cell Ouch.
02:36 masterofmonks JFC?
02:36 injektion Jesus fucking Christ
02:36 masterofmonks Ah.
02:36 HighMan_Cell Damn. Seems like a fun adrenaline rush.
02:37 masterofmonks Or, unloading a pallet from a truck and noticing the sticker that says "Warning shock sensative peroxides are generated by this compound, do not jar or drop"
02:38 HighMan_Cell Was it packaged right?
02:38 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, there is no such thing.
02:38 tehdark45 HighMan_Cell, white P is about as reactive phosphorous gets
02:38 tehdark45 :P
02:38 HighMan_Cell OH GOD. Ouch
02:41 HighMan_Cell Why did you become a weld inspector?
02:42 injektion Bbiaf
02:42 injektion Bbiab
02:42 HighMan_Cell Cya
02:42 HighMan_Cell Lol
02:45 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, because like everything else, it was the job that was available at the time.
02:46 HighMan_Cell Ah... And you were qualified to?
02:46 masterofmonks I was trained on the job.
02:47 HighMan_Cell Any OSHA laws in the job?
02:47 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, read this.
02:47 masterofmonks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw
02:47 BotSteve Title: Phossy jaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:47 HighMan_Cell Ouch
02:48 masterofmonks You see the part about the jat bone glowing in the dark?
02:48 masterofmonks jaw*
02:49 HighMan_Cell Yes...
02:49 HighMan_Cell No OSHA?
02:49 masterofmonks Where?
02:49 HighMan_Cell Hazmat
02:49 masterofmonks Exscuse me.
02:49 epictang0 HighMan_Cell: you seem to think that OSHA is looking out for you...lol
02:49 epictang0 osha is a joke
02:49 HighMan_Cell Lol
02:50 masterofmonks BWA HA HA HA HA WTF? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT OSHA! ROFL
02:50 HighMan_Cell I just think hazmat and Aisha would go hand in hand...
02:50 HighMan_Cell *osha
02:50 HighMan_Cell Lol
02:51 masterofmonks The only thing that OSHA cares about is fininf companies.
02:51 masterofmonks fining*
02:51 HighMan_Cell ...?
02:52 epictang0 'oh shit hide anywhere'
02:52 HighMan_Cell Lol
02:54 epictang0 ohsa is a fun exercise in how the government doesnt work regulating industry
02:54 masterofmonks epictang0, it's rather like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZ5hzEWj4w
02:54 BotSteve Title: Penn & Teller on HFCS and soda. - YouTube
02:54 HighMan_Cell Ill tell you more about industry after I study it next unit.
02:55 masterofmonks HighMan_Cell, school doesn't tell you anything you need to know about industry.
02:55 epictang0 HighMan_Cell: and i will tell you to not believe everything you learn
02:56 epictang0 masterofmonks: lol
02:56 HighMan_Cell AP Human Geography
02:56 HighMan_Cell .w human Geo
02:56 BotSteve "Human geography is one of the two major sub-fields of the discipline of geography." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_geography
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02:58 HighMan_Cell Oshite its OSHA, RUN!!
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03:09 eadthem aparently visual studio 2011 requires   10GB HDD space   and a DX9 GFX card
03:09 Cprossu_kindle .seen producerbill
03:09 BotSteve Cprossu_kindle: I last saw producerBill 8.73 hours ago at 2012-03-10 18:25:16 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:09:05 UTC
03:09 eadthem as well as windows 7 and 8
03:09 eadthem err or
03:09 Cheezmo eadthem: I've had DX9 for yeeaaaars
03:09 HighMan_Cell And...
03:09 eadthem ya but 10GB HDD
03:10 Cheezmo I've had games take more space
03:10 eadthem ya but this is a IDE
03:10 eadthem that needs a GFX card
03:10 Cheezmo I've had a 500GB IDE
03:10 eadthem no integrated development enviroment
03:10 Cheezmo ah
03:11 eadthem 10GB is slightly absurd  but needing a DX9 GFX card to run a IDE
03:11 Cheezmo less it HAS to be DX9 and not 10/11?
03:11 eadthem ya but still
03:12 Cheezmo I still have VS.NET on my comp here lol
03:12 Cprossu_kindle my firewall hs a 425mb hdd =p
03:12 Cheezmo 2003 ftw
03:13 Cheezmo that seems impressive for a Firewall
03:15 Cprossu_kindle smoothwall... p3 450 192mb ram... like 450days uptime this run
03:15 eadthem aparently also  VC2011 will not make exe's compatable with windows xp without hacks
03:15 Cprossu_kindle up since  2002
03:15 Cheezmo nice
03:16 epictang0 my firewall has a 256GB ssd...lol
03:16 Cheezmo oh, we're talking a tower Firewall?
03:16 eadthem think mines got a 40GB in it
03:16 epictang0 nah..cisco nam-2 on a 7600
03:18 epictang0 we also have a fwsm on our core switch
03:18 Cheezmo I used to have a symantec VPN 200
03:18 Cheezmo it was a cute little thing
03:18 Cheezmo the computer shop I worked at for 2 weeks was gonna toss it because they couldn't factory reset it
03:19 Cheezmo so I took it and after about an hour, found the reset procedure and proceeded to sell it to a friend for $80 :P
03:21 Cheezmo hell of a deal, seeing as the MSRP was at $800
03:22 * Cricket chirps
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03:27 HighMan Sigh.
03:27 HighMan My brother is a living trash can.
03:28 Cheezmo oro?
03:28 eadthem question is   how much power dose the router use?
03:32 Monkeh|Lap Less than mine
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03:46 HighMan Hi Monkeh|Lap
03:50 epictang0 eadthem: no care...my clients pay for it
03:50 epictang0 lol
03:51 eadthem ya that was the main reason i upgraded myn
03:51 eadthem 25W of power  down from about 100W
03:58 epictang0 if i ever get to the point where i am concerned about 75w just take me out to the pasture and shoot me...lol
03:58 lwq1996 yup guess which idiot did the cinnimon challenge
03:58 eadthem not a issue for a datacenter
03:58 eadthem but for me it cut my powerbill in half moving my server and router to itx
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04:07 eadthem http://www.tomshardware.com/news/VIA-quad-core-mini-ITX-EPIA-M900-EPIA-M910,14786.html
04:07 BotSteve Title: VIA Intros "World's First" Quad-Core Mini-ITX Boards
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04:17 Cheezmo I'm finding that new IBM chip in the latest news a bit more interesting o3o
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04:22 wannabe1987 .in 71minutes laundry
04:22 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 05:33Z
04:23 HighMan Adios! It's night time and guinea pig gots to sleep.
04:23 wannabe1987 fuckers
04:23 wannabe1987 don't know how to buy TP....
04:24 PacketHumper use their hand towels
04:24 PacketHumper eadthem trying to cut your power bill huh?
04:25 eadthem well last year dec i did the math
04:25 wannabe1987 they don't keep their towels in here....i do thankfully stash TP i buy in my room....i'm donating a roll...i paid fro the last batch of TP....
04:25 eadthem 2 ITX boards would cost 300$   have way more computing power than what i had, and  pay for themselves in a year or 2 in powerbill savings
04:26 PacketHumper ah true
04:26 PacketHumper i'm the king of cutting electric bills.
04:26 PacketHumper cut ours from 350-400 a month down to 90-120
04:26 eadthem 512mb ram was annoying but   300mhz/1.4Ghz    and linux  runs fine with only 512mb ram
04:26 PacketHumper best thing you can do is virtualise
04:26 wannabe1987 win
04:26 wannabe1987 how so?
04:26 PacketHumper make full use of the hardware
04:27 eadthem dont know
04:27 PacketHumper well first i replaced over 300 incandescent light bulbs with led/compact florescent.
04:27 eadthem when you consider its 25W per a ITX system     i kinda like googles approch
04:27 eadthem lots of cheep low power computers
04:27 eadthem rather than 1 with lots of virtual machines
04:27 PacketHumper put outdoor lights on a timer instead of on 24/7
04:27 wannabe1987 you had 300 lightbulbs in your house?
04:28 PacketHumper yup
04:28 wannabe1987 o.o
04:28 PacketHumper most of the light fixtures use 3-5 bulbs
04:28 wannabe1987 ahhhh
04:28 eadthem 1 celing fan   4 or 5 bulbs
04:28 PacketHumper yup
04:28 eadthem stuff adds up fast
04:28 PacketHumper it's a big house and the previous owners liked incandescent because they were stupid.
04:29 PacketHumper just the entry way alone has 9
04:29 PacketHumper the stairs have 7
04:29 eadthem they vanity/fancy glass  bulbs
04:29 PacketHumper upstairs halways  has 12
04:29 PacketHumper 12 in the master bath
04:29 PacketHumper 8 in the upstairs hall bath, 8 in the upstairs guest bath
04:29 eadthem atm i still have incandecents in my bathroom and in the closit
04:29 PacketHumper 4 in the downstairs bath.
04:30 PacketHumper under counter lights are all 12v LED run from a battery backup which gives 72 hours worth of light...(estimated, didn't account for electrical and heat losses)
04:31 eadthem ya once i buy a house
04:31 PacketHumper kitchen has 8 dimable CFL's though i've got the LED replacements.
04:31 eadthem first thing ile do is install central inverter LED lighting
04:31 PacketHumper garage is all CFL's in the ceiling but halogen track lighting on the back wall for workbench/project/working on the car lighting.
04:31 PacketHumper my office is lit by LED
04:32 eadthem i want to beable to run enough lights for comfortable living when the powers out   on about 25W
04:32 PacketHumper charges by day from solar panels
04:32 epictang0 i want to do PoE LED lighting in the house...
04:32 PacketHumper lol epic
04:32 epictang0 we have enough extra ports
04:32 PacketHumper those are so cool but too expensive
04:32 epictang0 we already use them in the DC
04:32 PacketHumper anyone have ATT uverse?
04:32 eadthem weve gotten lucky lately   normaly we have a on average day or 2 of power outtage a year for ice storms
04:33 PacketHumper yah i didn't have to fire up the genny this year
04:33 eadthem im on ATT DSL   i opted not to get uverse
04:33 PacketHumper which is odd but storm season is starting. lol
04:33 PacketHumper if you get ATT uverse they give you a belkin battery backup
04:33 epictang0 PacketHumper: I have uverse, but not for tv...
04:33 tonsofpcs you do run it to exercise it and so the fuel doesn't gel over (assuming diesel), right?
04:33 eadthem ya this year we didnt realy have winter   just cold weather in short spurts
04:33 PacketHumper epictang0: do you have the battery backup they give you?
04:34 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: no it's a generac natural gas
04:34 epictang0 nope...are you using inid?
04:34 wannabe1987 so do i leave the roll of TP In here or let them (housemates) sufffer?
04:34 eadthem mmm now at work we have a whole building ups
04:34 PacketHumper i have an LP converter for it and several lp tanks in the garage just in case
04:34 eadthem the previous tennant was sprint    they used it to print all there bills for about a year  then they broke lease and left
04:34 PacketHumper wannabe1987: let them suffer
04:35 wannabe1987 kk
04:35 tonsofpcs how hard is it to convert (without any power)?
04:35 eadthem they left behind a overhead bussbar system,  a huge whole building ups and a  50KW generator
04:35 PacketHumper epictang0: i don't have att.  here is what you do.  make friends with people at your local ups stores.  when people return their uverse boxes they return the belkin 12v ups's.
04:35 eadthem just the battery system alone would run sprint for 8 hours with all there laser printers running
04:35 PacketHumper they just throw the upses away
04:36 PacketHumper so you ask if you can have them.
04:36 PacketHumper i've got about 30 of them.
04:36 tonsofpcs belkin 12V UPSs?
04:36 PacketHumper they run things from access points, routers, switches, led lighting on the stairs
04:36 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: yup
04:36 PacketHumper hang on i'll get youa pic
04:37 tonsofpcs you mean a battery with a trickle charger?
04:37 PacketHumper http://compare.ebay.com/like/140673645140?var=lv&amp;ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&amp;var=sbar
04:37 BotSteve Title: Belkin Battery Backup Unit BU3DC000-12V Power Supply on eBay!
04:37 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe1987
04:37 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe1987 0.04 hours ago at 2012-03-11 04:35:00 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:37:18 UTC
04:37 lwq_laptop ;P
04:37 wannabe1987 ....
04:37 PacketHumper people are selling them on ebay for 12-15$
04:37 epictang0 no shit...i shall look into this
04:37 lwq_laptop i did the Cinnamon challenge
04:37 * wannabe1987 noms on fudge rounds
04:37 wannabe1987 why the FUCK would you do that/!
04:37 tonsofpcs that looks like a horrible design
04:38 lwq_laptop because me my sister and her friend are idiots
04:38 PacketHumper i have 2 of them in the car.  one runs an led light bar, the other one runs interior lighting while we are doing night photography
04:38 wannabe1987 obv
04:38 tonsofpcs cinnamon challange?
04:38 * lwq_laptop facepalm
04:38 PacketHumper look it up on youtube
04:38 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: so you're inverting DC to AC to charge them?
04:38 lwq_laptop .wiki cinnamon challenge
04:38 BotSteve "The cinnamon challenge is a challenge that became an internet meme in which a person attempts to eat or swallow a tablespoonful[1]| of ground cinnamon in under 60 seconds without drinking anything." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon_challenge
04:38 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: no, i plug my car in when i get home.
04:39 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: oh, you should also know i drive a prius with a shit ton of coms/data equipement in it.
04:39 tonsofpcs you realize that your car has a 12 generating system in it already, right?
04:39 tonsofpcs electric or hybrid?
04:39 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: yes but it's a prius.
04:39 PacketHumper hybrid with engineer upgrade
04:39 eadthem hell the battery is worth more than 15$ if its good
04:40 tonsofpcs do you get an engineer's hat with the upgrade? :-p
04:40 PacketHumper but on top of that i carry 2 huge 12volt deep cycle AGM batteries with me to power equipment.
04:40 eadthem ahhh so its ment to run your home phone
04:40 PacketHumper if need be
04:41 PacketHumper genni covers essentials
04:41 PacketHumper car covers everything else
04:41 tonsofpcs eadthem: yea, that's their solution for tarrifed service provisions
04:41 PacketHumper fridge, freezer, heating, cooling, essential lighting, garage door openers.
04:41 tonsofpcs needs to run... what, 90 minutes?
04:41 PacketHumper what does?
04:42 PacketHumper i'm confused
04:43 PacketHumper i have scanners, lighting, several data radios for wifi, gps, laptops, charging camera gear, batteries, microwave
04:43 PacketHumper all in my car. lol
04:43 PacketHumper had a keurig in there for awhile
04:44 PacketHumper http://www.flickr.com/bl117
04:44 BotSteve Title: Flickr: BL117's Photostream
04:44 PacketHumper answers a lot of questions about what goes on during the day/night that i'm out and about for.
04:45 PacketHumper though at times we have needed to power some stranger equipement from the car.
04:49 wannabe1987 wait, what do you do for work again?
04:51 PacketHumper whatever gets me paid. lol
04:51 wannabe1987 lol
04:51 wannabe1987 sounds like zozo :P
04:51 PacketHumper I own an IT company
04:51 wannabe1987 thats right...
04:51 PacketHumper but on the side i do wedding photography or well did.  don't really like doing it anymore
04:52 wannabe1987 oops
04:52 wannabe1987 i took a scissors home from work
04:52 PacketHumper but we do a lot of night photography and during storm season we go storm chasing.
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04:52 wannabe1987 hi hydro
04:52 Hydroelectric Hey wannabe1987.
04:53 PacketHumper but i also have people who pay me to do some very strange things.  not sorester strange but strange for an IT guy
04:54 wannabe1987 lol
04:54 wannabe1987 such as?
04:55 lwq1996 wow what i do just for youtube
04:55 lwq1996 damn computer is taking so long to convert this video
04:56 PacketHumper had a guy pay me to put music on his daughters ipod nano
04:56 PacketHumper she was 6 and he was to busy to help his little girl out
04:56 lwq1996 damn rich kids
04:56 PacketHumper um i've had  to fly out to vegas 2 years ago before CES opened and re-encode a video for KOSS.
04:57 PacketHumper i think there are pictures on my flikr of that and a few other exhibits that i've helped design.
04:58 PacketHumper I was technical project lead/designer for symantecs BLKMKT exhibit.  you can find it on youtube.  fucking cock bag video team turned the A/C off that cooled my server room because "it was too loud" that was a fun night as i started getting overtemp warnings from my servers and had to drive 2 hours in to flip the fucking braker back on.
04:58 PacketHumper can you tell i'm still miffed about that?
04:59 wannabe1987 no, not at all :P
05:00 PacketHumper they didn't even ask.
05:01 PacketHumper if they had i would have turned the temp up and opened the door and put a fan in there or something for a bit.
05:01 lwq1996 " i think i will just turn off this important peice of equipment just for my comfort"
05:01 * wannabe1987 has a pretty bruise below her knee.....
05:01 wannabe1987 ok....who kicked me?!  Guardianzozo?!
05:01 PacketHumper lol
05:02 epictang0 not going to comment on that
05:02 wannabe1987 lol
05:02 PacketHumper safest option
05:02 wannabe1987 its actually probably from work....i prolly ran into a wheelchair or something
05:03 Druidic_Rifleman awww you got a bruise congrats wannabe thats kinda kinky
05:03 wannabe1987 some people kick in their sleep....i do if i'm sleeping witha sibling (like in a hotel or something)
05:04 lwq1996 i dont kick, i roll over top of people :P
05:04 wannabe1987 o god....human pancakes
05:04 eadthem there was a time last week where i was dreaming i was riding a bike away from a bear taht was chasing me and the berings kept locking up on the bike
05:05 eadthem i woke up and i was sweaty and felt like i had been running for the last hour
05:06 * wannabe1987 made a snowflake out of paper and this scissors from work
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05:12 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
05:13 wannabe1987 ooo there might be a severe t storm monday night....thank goodness my car gets a garage that night :D
05:17 Druidic_Rifleman cool
05:17 Druidic_Rifleman sooo monday
05:17 Druidic_Rifleman ripping someclerks a new one
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05:17 wannabe1987 good
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05:21 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: and where would that be?
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05:23 wannabe1987 either here or there :P
05:23 wannabe1987 here if i beat my houseate home from the pub....(he's not home yet) there if you know.....:P
05:25 lwq_laptop i need to shave?
05:25 lwq_laptop :/*
05:26 tlockley do you have a beard?
05:27 wannabe1987 BitViper_Lappy: will you be at the lab monday?
05:27 lwq_laptop no, im growing a mustache
05:27 wannabe1987 why?!
05:27 lwq_laptop i mean legit
05:27 lwq_laptop IDK
05:28 tlockley becauese mustaches are kinda cool
05:28 lwq_laptop i can really feel it and i only shaved like 2weeks ago
05:28 lwq_laptop lol
05:28 wannabe1987 depends on what kind....
05:28 tlockley assuming you have the face to make it work
05:28 lwq_laptop im going to grow a gote
05:29 tlockley personally i have been rocking the "mountain man" recently
05:29 tlockley cool
05:29 tlockley I still am unsure what I should eventually style it into.
05:29 lwq_laptop rocking the moutain man?
05:29 tlockley just a mostly unstyled full face beard
05:29 wannabe1987 lol
05:29 wannabe1987 lumberjack eh?
05:29 lwq_laptop lol
05:29 tlockley sorta
05:30 lwq_laptop grow a BA one :P
05:30 tlockley I would but summer is fast upon us and I dont need the heat retention anymore
05:32 * wannabe1987 tries to find warm
05:32 tlockley whats the weather like up in GR?
05:32 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
05:32 BotSteve 45 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
05:32 * lwq_laptop warms up wannabe with a hug
05:32 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
05:32 BotSteve Scattered, 44.6℉ (7℃), 30.22in (1020mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KGRR 04:53Z
05:32 * tlockley notbad.jpg
05:32 wannabe1987 theres a breeze
05:32 tlockley yah, there is a prety still sea breese around here
05:33 tlockley *stiff
05:33 wannabe1987 no, but i'm inside and i'm cold....
05:33 BotSteve wannabe1987: laundry
05:33 wannabe1987 yay laundry!
05:33 wannabe1987 brb
05:33 tlockley k
05:34 tlockley .weather kack
05:34 BotSteve Clear ☼, 26.6℉ (-3℃), 30.55in (1031mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KACK 04:53Z
05:34 tlockley shart its cold at home
05:34 Hydroelectric .weather Cairns
05:34 BotSteve Cloudy, 25℃, 1009mb, Light Showers of Rain, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - YBCS, 05:30Z
05:34 tlockley .weather 02747
05:34 BotSteve LFAG: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
05:34 Hydroelectric Mmm, rain.
05:34 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252991_593769389414_19304404_33268398_6184434_n.jpg
05:34 tlockley .tfw 02747
05:34 BotSteve 24 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN North Dartmouth, MA!  'Fuck this place.'
05:34 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248912_593769598994_19304404_33268409_5255750_n.jpg
05:35 wannabe1987 (laundry is still spinning)
05:35 tlockley lol pic
05:35 wannabe1987 its a load of mainly jeans....so....its WET
05:35 Hydroelectric .weather YBCS
05:35 BotSteve Cloudy, 25℃, 1009mb, Light Showers of Rain, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - YBCS, 05:30Z
05:35 tlockley that reminds me, I should do laundry tomorrow
05:37 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/39007_551323366584_19304404_32672268_6672704_n.jpg
05:38 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/39007_551323366584_19304404_32672268_6672704_n.jpg
05:38 wannabe1987 tlockley: like this?  https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34863_551334454364_19304404_32672987_4874082_n.jpg
05:39 tlockley almost exactly except i have black facial hair
05:39 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:39 wannabe1987 he's also from massachusettes
05:39 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/207_514888916514_19304404_31363072_8080_n.jpg  hey look, its a me!
05:39 tlockley really. where in mass?
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05:40 wannabe1987 peabody....
05:40 tlockley cool. I dont know many people from there so I probably don't know him
05:40 Druidic_Rifleman i am gonna sleep
05:40 wannabe1987 yay!  druid sleeps!
05:40 tlockley night Druidic_Rifleman
05:40 wannabe1987 he's also from north andover i believe
05:40 tlockley huh
05:41 tlockley also I have A question. If i were to make it to GR, would i need to find a b&b or a hotel to stay in?
05:41 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/5680_532876713824_19304404_31968765_1538414_n.jpg i failed so they took a photo of me...
05:41 wannabe1987 well, depends on when you're coming
05:42 wannabe1987 awww is Dr who done, FearOfMusic?
05:42 Druidic_Rifleman Slack rope?
05:42 tlockley some time after the 16th of this month
05:42 wannabe1987 probably talk to moose, get hotel?
05:42 wannabe1987 no, tis a hamock
05:42 tlockley aka. spring break
05:42 wannabe1987 thats in 5 days
05:43 wannabe1987 i'd say get hotel
05:43 tlockley yah
05:43 Druidic_Rifleman there is one north of the lab 40 a night
05:43 tlockley well I may be going home instead as I need to get stufs from there.
05:43 wannabe1987 where is school?
05:43 tlockley north dartmouth, MA
05:44 tlockley its an hour drive to the ferry back home
05:44 tlockley less if i step on it
05:44 Druidic_Rifleman heck for what dad and i will likely pay we're gonna end up spending 700 bucks might as well rent an appartment for a whole damn month
05:46 tlockley you headded for GR Druidic_Rifleman
05:46 tlockley ?
05:46 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
05:46 tlockley where from?
05:46 Druidic_Rifleman soon as the twats at the court houde get my form
05:46 Druidic_Rifleman canada
05:47 tlockley cool. where in canada if you dont mind me asking?
05:48 Druidic_Rifleman past toronto
05:48 Druidic_Rifleman and wannabe hamocks work best when opend up not bunched up close ;)
05:48 wannabe1987 yes, i know
05:48 wannabe1987 hence my fail
05:48 wannabe1987 this was in 2009
05:48 tlockley very cool. Hopefully border control isnt going to be too bad
05:48 wannabe1987 .in 70min laundry
05:48 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 06:58Z
05:49 lwq_laptop it takes 70min to do laundry?
05:50 tlockley sometimes
05:50 tlockley thick cottony stuff can take a long time to dry
05:50 wannabe1987 no
05:50 wannabe1987 50 to dry, but 1:08 for the washer...
05:50 Druidic_Rifleman Maybe... if they youknow whent after the illegals sneaking in the back door and actually steel american jobs and not canadians wanting to help make jobs what does more damafe9000 illegal mexicans who take from the economy don't pay taxes Send most of the income crossthe board and who enroll they're kids in schools with out paying taxes
05:50 wannabe1987 it was 1:11 for the washer last time, full of jeans and denimy stuffs
05:51 tlockley Druidic_Rifleman: I feel ya and feel for ya
05:52 tlockley though in the same bredth, the US busisness that hire illegals are also a significant part of the problem
05:52 epictang0 i occasionally hire illegals...fuckers are born with dust masks and spackling knives
05:53 tlockley epictang0: not to be an ass but you are part of the problem
05:54 Druidic_Rifleman and the illegals Are A helped over the board by the mexican government. and B have they're own political lobby group Called  The Race... there was a simmilar group in the 50's and 60's called the KKK... not much of a difference then a large portion of the race's members
05:54 tlockley if you hire people please do us all a favor and do it leagally
05:55 epictang0 haha...my employees are legal...but i am not going to make them do the drywall in my basement for $40/hr...
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman Epic tango where areyoufrom?
05:55 epictang0 detroit-ish
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman whats your first and last name ?
05:55 epictang0 hah
05:55 coleco Today is Daylight Savings
05:55 epictang0 nice try
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05:56 wannabe1987 ...
05:56 epictang0 coleco: it is not daylight savings time until 2am
05:57 coleco yes
05:57 coleco but at 2am, it will be 3am
05:57 coleco so if you were going to bed in an hour
05:57 Druidic_Rifleman who ever gets me epic tango's real name gets a home made pizza sized chocolate chip cookie
05:57 coleco you should go to bed now
05:57 epictang0 Druidic_Rifleman: come at me bro
05:57 wannabe1987 i'm going to bed when i get the darks dried...i need them tomorrow (clothes/laundry)
05:58 epictang0 you really dont want to play games with that you are unfamiliar
05:58 tlockley eh?
05:58 Druidic_Rifleman i need money and there is a reward for info that leads to an arrest of illegal workers
05:59 tlockley in canada or offered by the US?
05:59 epictang0 i dont employ illegals on a daily basis
06:00 epictang0 go to any walmart...they can help you
06:00 tlockley basically when it comes to "illegal" workers. You/they either need to pay the correct taxes for face the penalties
06:00 Druidic_Rifleman in the usa
06:01 tlockley figured druid
06:01 tlockley There are too many illegals in this country that collect one socal help that dont pay into the system
06:01 tlockley and in general the employers are as much to blame as the incoming aliens
06:02 epictang0 tlockley: there are also many citizens that collect on social help and dont pay into the system
06:02 tlockley and they are just as much in the wrond
06:02 tlockley *wrong
06:02 epictang0 for example: i was at the grocery store, a woman had 8 kids and was buying groceries with an EBT card...
06:02 Druidic_Rifleman illegals are more in the wrong though the whole not legally entering the USA
06:02 epictang0 i went right out behind her...
06:03 epictang0 she was getting into a brand new escalade...
06:03 tlockley epictang0: I know what you mean, its an all too common occurance
06:04 epictang0 so crack down on illegals, but not lazy ass people?
06:04 tlockley no, crack down on the system which will primarily affect illegals
06:04 tlockley but will have sweeping effects none the less
06:04 Druidic_Rifleman Like how Hard done blacks in the ghetto on gov't assistance have brand new big screens but the evil opressive oppulance living white retire's had an old tube set?
06:05 tlockley EBT in it current incarnation is poorly designed
06:06 * wannabe1987 was glad for her EBT when she had it....it meant i could eat
06:06 epictang0 right wannabe1987, however, you are not a lifer that i speak of
06:06 tlockley "Food stamps" shoud provide the essential foods that a family/individual needs to live not another money account to allow people to buy any food at their whim
06:07 wannabe1987 then you're deciding what "essential is"
06:07 wannabe1987 "essential"*
06:07 epictang0 tlockley: lol...it goes beyond just that...we have folks that used to go to the casino with their cash assistance
06:08 epictang0 essential is anything that sustains someone...one does not need soda for example
06:08 tlockley true wannabe1987 and that is a dificult proposition but I personally feel that creating that defenition even in a broad sense would be more apropriate solution.
06:09 tlockley *be a more appropriate solution
06:09 epictang0 essential is eggs, milk, sugar, pasta, meat, fruit, veggies
06:09 wannabe1987 like more fruits/veggies than candy/cookies/chips?
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06:09 wannabe1987 but sometimes you have to splurge and buy cookies.....
06:09 epictang0 but do it on your own dime...not mine
06:09 epictang0 lol
06:10 wannabe1987 i didn't have dimes, only pennies.....sorry, but sometimes you need sugar in your system...
06:10 epictang0 if you can afford an escalade, can afford cookies
06:10 tlockley agreed and that can be a part of the system, but many individuals need to understand that sweets are not what the system is there for
06:10 * wannabe1987 leaves this convo before she gets more pissed off
06:10 tlockley epictang0: not everyone on welfare are cheaters
06:11 epictang0 i agree...however, weed them out...
06:11 epictang0 get the grocery stores to keep track of the reciepts
06:11 tlockley good luck
06:11 epictang0 corralate with the card
06:12 epictang0 they do it already for all the manufacturers...
06:12 epictang0 who then use it for marketing data
06:13 epictang0 i used to run a datacenter for a large grocery store chain...
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06:14 epictang0 if you buy anything, and then use a frequent buyer card...so much data can be mined from that
06:14 epictang0 people have no clue
06:14 tlockley kinda old news epictang0
06:15 epictang0 send the data to HHS, if the person is buying junkfood and shit they dont need
06:15 wannabe1987 lol
06:15 epictang0 cur them off
06:15 coleco tlockley: I know illegales that pay taxes FYI
06:15 tlockley I do too
06:15 tlockley the point is not that one group is in the wrond
06:15 tlockley *wrong
06:16 tlockley but the whole system is wrong
06:16 coleco even worse
06:16 coleco two systems are so wrong that people are motivated to do all of this
06:16 epictang0 the government should not be in the social welfare business in the first place
06:17 epictang0 or the medical care business
06:17 tlockley on another topic… coleco did you take your name from the colecovision?
06:17 coleco I did
06:17 tlockley nailed it
06:18 * wannabe1987 doesn't have insurance or medicare/caid but still gets all her medical care for $20/visit
06:18 wannabe1987 doesn't matter how long the visit is.....
06:18 wannabe1987 they did 3 fillings (hour and a half) for $20
06:18 coleco epictang0: the government should be involved any service that is nessessary for staying alive and healthy, but they should not be the sole exclusive providor of these services.
06:18 tlockley ^
06:19 coleco they should to this not only out of nessessity, but to set a benchmark to their compeditors
06:19 epictang0 coleco: one should not be forced to purchase said care or be fined...
06:19 n1mjf GM TGG
06:19 wannabe1987 hi mat!
06:19 epictang0 hell...purchase anything
06:19 n1mjf hello wannabe. how are you doing?
06:19 wannabe1987 i'm cold....
06:19 BitViper_Lappy *groan*
06:19 wannabe1987 waiting for my laundry
06:19 tlockley epictang0: you a republican?
06:19 wannabe1987 you are up! :P
06:20 n1mjf yup
06:20 wannabe1987 will you be at the lab monday, BitViper_Lappy?
06:20 n1mjf just got settled into work
06:20 wannabe1987 i was talking to bit:P
06:20 wannabe1987 daw
06:20 n1mjf oh lol
06:20 BitViper|ded wannabe1987 : probably at least
06:20 wannabe1987 ok...i have issues you can help with (mike said to ask you as he doesn't do programming)
06:21 BitViper|ded wannabe1987 : right now im D.E.A.D. me, bat, and eakin just finished stripping the batmobile
06:21 wannabe1987 yeah?  wow....
06:21 wannabe1987 i saw ya'll having fun gettin greasy when we left....
06:21 tlockley why you stripping the batmobile?
06:21 wannabe1987 :P
06:21 wannabe1987 broke
06:21 BitViper|ded we didnt have a woman
06:21 wannabe1987 good thing eakin was there today, eh?
06:21 epictang0 tlockley: negative...libertarian...
06:22 wannabe1987 BitViper|ded: mike had a woman, but i
06:22 BitViper|ded tlockley : batmobile was mixing fluids
06:22 wannabe1987 i'm at my house, not his place....
06:22 tlockley bit… sounds like a fun time <sarcasm>
06:23 BitViper|ded tlockley : dood, that vehicle had NO standard in bolt/nut sizes or types
06:23 BitViper|ded every other bolt needed something different
06:23 wannabe1987 srs?
06:23 tlockley was it a ford of a chevy? I dont really remember
06:23 tlockley *or
06:24 BitViper|ded well ford was the name used as a curse alot
06:24 tlockley lol, I am not supprised
06:24 coleco epictang0: I agree, being FORCED to purchace health insurance is a problem. Such insurance should be available to you, for free, or subsidized. I think it's absurd that people are so greedy that protecting every citizens health and wellbeing in your country is a bad thing to do
06:24 tlockley ford is notorious for doing that
06:24 coleco and if you don't like what they offer, you should be free to say "no"
06:24 coleco and seek private sources
06:24 tlockley the oil filter on my mothers truck is designed to create the largest mess possible unlee you have the special for removal tools
06:25 BitViper|ded there were standards, there were metrics, there were about 20 different sizes (it seemed)
06:25 tlockley s/unlee/unless
06:25 epictang0 coleco: exactly...but that is not how they want to do it
06:25 epictang0 they want to force it down one's throat
06:25 tlockley BitViper|ded: of a difference in size of only a couple mm?
06:26 BitViper|ded we used everything from 19 to 9, and the equiv range of stds
06:26 tlockley sounds like a typical ford
06:27 epictang0 further, why would I want to pay into a system managed by a government that has messed up everything it has been set out to manage thus far (medicare, social security, welfare..etc)
06:27 wannabe1987 so i have to say the star in a jar at the lab is awesome
06:27 tlockley at least its too old to have a ecu… I think
06:27 tlockley the batmobile is pre 1996 rite?
06:27 wannabe1987 the spray painted number on the back is "96"
06:28 epictang0 lol
06:28 BitViper|ded i think i heard 91
06:28 tlockley so it might be fuel injected
06:28 tlockley well at least that isnt the problem right now
06:28 coleco epictang0: It's an f-ed up statement in the healthcare bill, but given our current health care system, an individual would have to be insane to not seek insurance
06:29 BitViper|ded ok im going to bed, before rigor mortis sets in and i cant get to my bed
06:29 wannabe1987 night :)
06:29 Guardianzozo lol night
06:29 tlockley night
06:29 wannabe1987 hi zozo!
06:29 coleco especially considering even catestrophic coverage for one individual is cheap as hel
06:29 Guardianzozo yo
06:29 coleco hell
06:29 wannabe1987 haven't seen you in a while :P
06:29 Guardianzozo ...
06:29 Guardianzozo =P
06:29 lwq1996 im watching charlie and the chocolate factory
06:29 wannabe1987 i assume you made it into the ouse, then....
06:29 Guardianzozo yup yup
06:29 wannabe1987 kk
06:30 coleco I don't like that statement, but the helth care bill is an intermediate step that tries to compromise in several different ways on what different groups of people want out of our health care system, but overall, what it lays out is much better for everybody than what we had before.
06:31 epictang0 but when you start making exceptions for one group (catholics for example) you have to start making exceptions for everyone
06:32 epictang0 which puts it right back to the start
06:32 Guardianzozo yay government involvement in my health care!
06:32 coleco slippery slope
06:32 Guardianzozo lets not start down this road
06:32 epictang0 Guardianzozo: not a good thing
06:32 wannabe1987 we've been discussing the gov'et forever....they succeeded in pissing me off
06:32 Guardianzozo i know its not a good thing =P
06:32 coleco neither side is right on this
06:33 coleco republicans or democrats
06:33 * tlockley gave up a while ago
06:33 coleco it also dosent help that they get into a circlejerk that prevents either side from accomplishing fully what they want, leaving plans (like this healthcare bill) a jacked up mess
06:34 wannabe1987 can you continue this in tgg:controversial please?
06:34 coleco kk
06:34 wannabe1987 thx
06:36 * wannabe1987 waits for the dryer to be done.
06:37 coleco I know, right?
06:37 lwq1996 wow this 50min video is going to take a while to render into a mpeg
06:37 wannabe1987 what are you filming for 50 min that people will watch?!
06:37 lwq1996 guns :P
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06:38 lwq1996 going to let this computer set for the whole night
06:38 wannabe1987 why is there no CB for tonight?
06:38 wannabe1987 or today....
06:38 lwq1996 hoping on other computer, shutting down irc
06:39 coleco UGh. I got a tetnious shot the other day, my arm is still sore
06:39 lwq_laptop lol
06:39 tlockley dunno, and I wish they were longer again.
06:39 tlockley I need to waste more time in the mornings
06:39 lwq_laptop estimated time is still climbing
06:39 tlockley lwq_laptop: whare are you using to render>
06:39 tlockley *?
06:39 wannabe1987 why'd you get tetnus?
06:40 lwq_laptop im rendering it to my desktop
06:40 tlockley software?
06:41 lwq_laptop oh sony vegas
06:41 lwq_laptop to be exact vegas pro 9.0
06:41 tlockley ah. What is the source material? 1080p?
06:42 lwq_laptop source as in what video i put into it?
06:42 tlockley like what is the resoulution of the video? 1080p? 480i?
06:43 lwq_laptop i dont exactly know
06:43 tlockley what did you shoot it with?
06:43 tlockley the video
06:44 lwq_laptop my camera
06:44 wannabe1987 so fucking vague!
06:44 lwq_laptop its something like 360 to 720
06:44 wannabe1987 what kind of camera?
06:44 wannabe1987 mines a sony cybershot w190
06:44 lwq_laptop kodak
06:44 lwq_laptop kodak easy share
06:45 tlockley i assume you recoreded at the best quality
06:47 lwq_laptop yes
06:47 lwq_laptop it takes nice video for being a 70dollar camera
06:48 wannabe1987 zomb wheres my laundry reminder
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06:49 lwq_laptop what computer repair company does chris run?
06:50 wannabe1987 boden?
06:50 wannabe1987 i doubt he fixes computers....
06:50 lwq_laptop yeah he does!
06:51 lwq_laptop well maybe not all the time
06:51 wannabe1987 no, i think he sends them down to zozo and jeff to fix instead....
06:51 egrsteve sleep time
06:52 wannabe1987 night steve
06:52 Guardianzozo later dude
06:52 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
06:52 wannabe1987 thanks steve
06:53 lwq_laptop can i drive her crazy?
06:53 wannabe1987 no
06:53 wannabe1987 you'll get /ignored
06:54 wannabe1987 its an inside joke thing.
06:54 wannabe1987 i don't think you were here for it
06:55 wannabe1987 walking hurts
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06:55 wannabe1987 hi'
06:55 Toastdude Hi
06:56 wannabe1987 you're up late...
06:56 lwq_laptop TOASTY
06:56 Toastdude Not really...
06:56 Toastdude Hi Lee
06:56 lwq_laptop lol its the week end
06:56 wannabe1987 its almost 1am there....
06:57 Toastdude I'm usually up till 3 on weekends..
06:57 lwq_laptop lol im up to 4-5 usually
06:57 wannabe1987 i have church in the AM and need to be up at 8:30....
06:58 BotSteve wannabe1987: laundry
06:59 wannabe1987 thanks bot, but i'm already going through the dryer....weeding out dried things
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07:02 wannabe1987 my chapstick went through the wash.  now its wet
07:02 wannabe1987 hi astro
07:03 wannabe1987 lol time just went from 1:58 to 3am....
07:03 wannabe1987 o.o
07:04 Guardianzozo which sucks!
07:04 Guardianzozo wrong window XD
07:04 wannabe1987 but it still made sense...
07:05 wannabe1987 lol
07:05 wannabe1987 there goes my sleep....
07:06 wannabe1987 life.
07:07 * wannabe1987 has spare nerf darts that i iddn't have when i arrived....o.o
07:07 wannabe1987 hehe it stuck to the wall for a second
07:07 Guardianzozo lol
07:08 wannabe1987 at least they reach the wall....with a force that allows them to stick.... thanks to egrsteve and yourself
07:08 wannabe1987 there
07:08 wannabe1987 they're all on teh otherside of the room
07:08 Guardianzozo nah steve did it i was just watching
07:08 wannabe1987 you put a screw in...
07:10 wannabe1987 yay dr who references
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07:14 Guardianzozo dunno
07:14 wannabe1987 lol
07:15 Guardianzozo yup going to bed, too tired to determine what channel im typing in, later
07:15 wannabe1987 lol
07:15 wannabe1987 night
07:16 wannabe1987 herp derp brain is fried
07:17 wannabe1987 need to clean off my bed so i can get at least 5 hours of sleep
07:18 wannabe1987 get to deal with church peeps (yay kp!) , family, then werk, THEN 2 days off :D
07:30 wannabe-zz bedtime!
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07:58 Thermoelectric .calc 500/60
07:58 BotSteve 8.33333333
07:59 Thermoelectric Mmm
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10:30 Experimentonomen g'day peepz
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10:45 Electricguy yeyy! i'm going to get a wireless microphone system today :P
10:45 Electricguy no idea what model/brand it it though XD
10:46 Experimentonomen prolly some cheap chinabrand :P
10:50 BitViper|ded gah, 3 hours sleep, thought i was getting 4 =(
10:51 BitViper|ded and at least one system is still confuzed about the clock
10:51 Electricguy Experimentonomen, no, then he would have tossed it away. he don't collect cheap crap
10:51 Experimentonomen then it might be something like Shure or similar
10:52 Electricguy yeah.. or sennheiser or some other brand
10:52 * Experimentonomen went to his old adress and got himself a 400 watt DC motor and 8 old thyristors of unknown condition
11:04 Sgt_Lemming I spent my day at http://www.cws.org.au/adventureparc/index.html
11:04 BotSteve Title: Adventure Parc Mt Tamborine
11:05 Sgt_Lemming tired + sore + tired + strained, and did I mention tired?
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12:25 HighMan_zZz Morning
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13:07 * wannabe-church wants her extra hour back now, kthxbai
13:38 einball GOOD MORNING VIETGEEGGROUP
13:38 einball damnit .. Its early in the morning (14:38) xD
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13:56 eadthem anyone know the best place to learn linux C++ for someone who can make C++ sing and dance in windows
13:57 HighMan Morning einball
13:57 HighMan On a computer.
14:01 einball eadthem: what do you mean with "sing and dance"? :D
14:02 eadthem i write my own mutexes
14:08 einball Should be no problem then to write C++ for Linux!?
14:09 einball eadthem: The code is the same :)
14:17 * Experimentonomen uploads a vid of his latest project
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14:18 BitViper|ded eadthem : there may be a few minor call or behavior differences in some libs, and maybe some lib names, but 99.9% same
14:19 BitViper|ded probably biggest differences if doing gui
14:19 eadthem i use GTK
14:19 einball So there's no difference at all :)
14:19 eadthem my only concern is relerning threads from beginthread to unix
14:19 einball The GTK Framework is the same on both os
14:19 BitViper|ded yeah, shit in both :)
14:19 * BitViper|ded runs
14:20 eadthem thats why i use it
14:20 eadthem easy and fast to use
14:20 einball eadthem: threading is done just as in windows I guess.
14:20 einball At least forking and killing again works like in windows
14:20 eadthem the behavor diff in threading is what will kill me
14:21 eadthem my atomic operation might not work as expected anymore  or somthing
14:21 einball eadthem: Well ... Read a little bit about threading in linux then ... What's the problem?
14:21 eadthem well tbh  not to worryed bout that  more worred about the code that surrounds that
14:21 einball If you have knowledge in windows then you should get into linux quite fast
14:22 HighMan HAHHAHA really? ^
14:22 einball HighMan: That was related to programming ...
14:22 HighMan Oh.... Then nvm...
14:22 einball :P
14:23 HighMan Lol, I haven't even really used linux
14:23 HighMan The distro on my usb is ubuntu
14:23 einball Linux is great if you want to learn something and if you follow the principle "When it works, it's boring" :D
14:23 HighMan Haha
14:25 einball I hate my Os on a daily basis just because it does not work like I want it to. But it's fun all time to fix it :)
14:25 HighMan What do you use?
14:25 einball Debian atm.
14:26 einball I'd like to use Gentoo, but I fear that it's too much lack of knowledge to actually use it
14:27 HighMan Ah ok
14:27 HighMan I'm on windows lol
14:28 HighMan And I'm screwed if someone asks me to fix a linux based computer (maybe mac also)
14:28 HighMan But if they running linux, they are smart enough to fix it llol
14:28 einball I use windows to compile my project, because I like the Qt Creator on windows
14:28 * BitViper|tgg is too tired and sore to eat breakfasst
14:28 HighMan Morning BitViper|tgg
14:28 BitViper|tgg bah
14:29 einball Ah, btw, maybe someone can help me: At the moment I have all my stuff that I'l like to compile in one folder
14:30 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3SZCDR2Bw
14:30 BotSteve Title: Phase angle controlled variable dc power supply - YouTube
14:30 einball When I order my stuff like it should be: headers in include, sourcecode in src and object files in lib, I always get "unresolved extern symbol"
14:31 einball I have no idea why .. It should look for the Qt library in the regular library Path (C:\QtSDK, somewhat there). And I have no idea why it cannot find that damn symbols :P
14:37 einball In the Configpath INCLUDEDIR += $$PWD/include is set, so it should look for the header files in that path
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14:49 HighMan Hi esro
14:49 HighMan Hi Seroster
14:50 Seroster Yo?
14:50 HighMan Hi...
14:56 Seroster LOL yNos, "Nice n sweet!"
15:06 tonsofpcs hi
15:07 HighMan lolol
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15:51 Seroster lol
15:51 Seroster Talking about foam rot
15:51 Seroster Hows yer momma today+
15:51 * Experimentonomen is running a large dc motor off a lil diy phase angle thing
15:52 Seroster Nvm. I got a moped with foam seat, some holes in it the size of playing dice. Suggestions on how to repair?
15:52 HighMan Expanding Foam
15:52 HighMan ;)
15:53 Seroster Too hard
15:53 Seroster Thinking about gluing in small pieces of a matress
15:58 HighMan ..
15:58 HighMan .
15:59 HighMan Expanding Foam, Cotton? Get a few teddy bears...
15:59 HighMan Or rip apart a pillow
16:09 Experimentonomen time to get going, cya'll later
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16:31 BitViper|tgg today promisses to be a 'fun' day here at the lab
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16:36 Druidic_Rifleman mornings suck
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16:41 Druidrifle1 Mmmmm cake for break fast
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17:09 Guest32784 hi
17:09 wannabe1987 there
17:12 KB3NZQ does any one have the info on how to  open up a GE dc milliamperes meter  type DW-91 CAT 513X48
17:12 wannabe1987 with a sledge hammer?
17:12 KB3NZQ no
17:13 KB3NZQ i need to fix it not killit
17:13 KB3NZQ i need to fix it not kill it
17:13 wannabe1987 hi Zozo-Away
17:14 * Zozo-Away yawns
17:14 wannabe1987 morning sunshine :)
17:17 SparkyProjects KB3NZQ: panel meter ?
17:17 SparkyProjects The perspex cover would normally be glued or clipped on, try a knife round the edge first, if it doesn't clip off, then distort the case a little and see if the glue will crack
17:17 KB3NZQ yes
17:17 Seroster SparkyProjects! =D
17:18 SparkyProjects Seroster :P
17:18 Seroster Sup homie?
17:18 KB3NZQ is that the little black part around the zero adjust screw?
17:20 SparkyProjects he zero adjust will normally come away with the front panel, it's just a pin that locates in the mechanism.
17:20 SparkyProjects If you can find how to remove the perspex part, you should be good
17:25 KB3NZQ there is a metel band around the outer edge that is holding the cover on  the reason i need to open it is there are 2 small springs floating around inside
17:26 Druidic_Rifleman kb3nzq C$
17:26 KB3NZQ ???
17:26 Druidic_Rifleman C4 there is no problem that can't be solved with the aplication of high explosives
17:26 KB3NZQ FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
17:27 Druidic_Rifleman run a 1 inch snake artound the seamand then deatonate should open it right up
17:34 Seroster An USB hub would only need 5v DC, right?
17:35 Seroster About how many mA per port?
17:37 SparkyProjects 5v yes, current would depend on what you are running
17:40 * Electricguy listens to music on tape from his tascam deck
17:41 * Druidic_Rifleman wonders how hard it would be to Modify a pnumatic ram like for a paint bal gun to have a 4 inch stroke length
17:41 Druidic_Rifleman i wish i knew how to use auto cad...
17:42 wannabe1987 my god i'm going to kill my computer
17:43 SparkyProjects Seroster, the psu for my 7 port usb hub is 2 A
17:44 Seroster right
17:45 wannabe1987 i am FUCKING NOT ADDICTED TO MY COMPUTER GO THE FUCK AWAY let me do what i'm trying to do (buy minutes) and i'll go the fuck away
17:46 SparkyProjects Druidic_Rifleman: you'll probably find several tutorials on YT, also check out http://www.youtube.com/user/EEVblog he did a PSU design series, part 9 deals with CAD, also check his KiCAD series
17:46 Druidic_Rifleman huh wannabe
17:46 BotSteve Title: EEVblog's Channel - YouTube
17:46 wannabe1987 my grandma
17:46 wannabe1987 people are just pissing me off thats all
17:48 wannabe1987 i'm fucking going gahhhhhhh
17:51 Seroster Lol
17:51 Druidic_Rifleman family problems
17:51 Seroster SparkyProjects, Right. It's just that I love USB toys and before starting collecting them I need some more space
17:52 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI-pct3zy18
17:52 BotSteve Title: Humping Dog - YouTube
17:53 SparkyProjects Ok, what i would do is get hold of a powered usb hub, i have one (don't use it now) that is 7 ports, remember that you can daisy chain hubs
17:53 Seroster Yeah...
17:54 SparkyProjects The computer should be able to supply the hubs without the psy, but i would power the hubs to be safe
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17:54 Seroster Aye.
17:55 Seroster It's a laptop with 3 usb2.0, I doubt it can supply more than a few things. Especially since I got my mouse, hdd and coffee warmer that are approaching 1.5a already
17:57 SparkyProjects yeah, use extenal supplies
17:58 Seroster Btw, SparkyProjects, my grandparents have a heatpump that sucks heat out of the lawn, and supplies the radiators with hotwater really cheap.   Thing is they also have electric radiators on the top floor (original building only had radiators on lower level) - There are a few rooms up there, and one of them already has a water radiator in it.   Is it possible to just splice on like a dozen other radiators on the already existi
17:58 Seroster ng radiator water, hence getting rid of some of the £1000 a month electric bill? - It's 2cm diameter pipe.
17:59 SparkyProjects he groundsource would be rated close to the current radiators, so adding more would share the heat, this could mean that the downstairs would be colder in winter.
18:00 Seroster The heatpump doesn't run on full capacity
18:01 SparkyProjects Find out from an installer what the rating is, and what the new total requirement would be.
18:01 SparkyProjects The way i would approach that is to get an installer to give you a free quote, and ask questions
18:01 Seroster That's the problem, no nearby installers-
18:02 westmi i'd run it in a series circit
18:02 SparkyProjects Is there any way you can find out what the current set up can supply at maximum ?
18:02 SparkyProjects Like any documentation from the original install, or getting details of the pump and searching online
18:03 westmi and it is something I would do
18:03 Seroster Yeah, I could, but judging from the time it is on/off I'd say it is running 50%
18:03 westmi it does have a feed and return pipes?
18:04 Seroster Which one?
18:04 westmi the the one upstairs
18:04 SparkyProjects westmi: series is old, not very efficient.
18:04 SparkyProjects Make it parallel and include thermostatic radiator valves, the upstairs can be turned way down to just supply a background heat
18:04 Seroster The radiator in the upstairs room has two pipes, one in and one out. It also had 20 years of air in the system.
18:04 westmi k, eather would work
18:05 Seroster Isn't pretty much all radiators in paralell?
18:05 Seroster aren't*
18:05 SparkyProjects usually yes, though some old schools had series
18:06 westmi they arn't too difacult to bleed
18:06 westmi the air out
18:06 SparkyProjects At work they used parallel for the main feed in a large building, but each room was series and controlled by timers/stats
18:08 Seroster So, with a little luck there will just be two 2cm holes to the main bedroom, pipes along the wall to 3 radiators, two holes from that room into the bathroom, from the bathroom to the guest room, from the guest room to the stairs and I'll just terminate the run there, that's 6 medium size radiators, and about 200meters of pipe, plus fittings, plus the work, which my uncles and I will put in for free.  Hopefully we can do this
18:08 Seroster for <£2000
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18:08 Seroster westmi, Nobody even know there were the two radiators upstairs, so the highest point ever vented was 2meters below.
18:09 westmi heh
18:09 Seroster Did you get my last long message, sparky?
18:10 SparkyProjects1 Seroster, i would find where the upstairs circuit connetd to the boiler, and tap into that point
18:10 SparkyProjects1 yes, i read the log
18:10 Seroster Skills, man!
18:10 Seroster Thing is I can't find the actual pipes from the top floor to the basement, so they are probably hidden in the wall.
18:11 Seroster Can a 2cm diameter pipe power 8 radiators? How do you control the feed to radiators, larger diameter pipe or higher pressure(flow rate)?
18:11 westmi valves
18:12 SparkyProjects1 They would generally be run through an airing cupboard where the hot water tank is, or through a boxed in section,
18:12 Seroster Yeah I know, westmi, but if you want more water than the pipes were originally put in for, is it possible to just run the water with a higher pressure?
18:13 SparkyProjects1 yes, you should be fine with 20cm pipe
18:13 SparkyProjects1 One end of the rad will have a 'lockshield valve' which you set the flow, normally the closer to the boiler/source, the smaller the flow
18:13 westmi if you wanted individual control of each radiator, you would have to pipe each individualy
18:13 SparkyProjects1 therre's an art to balancing rads.
18:14 westmi other wise they would be the same
18:15 SparkyProjects1 wesmi, you can have all the rads in parallel anywhere on the system, and by using balancing can control each rad properly
18:16 Seroster Most likely the control of the radiators will be 0, 50 and 100%
18:16 westmi i would'nt exceed the rated pipe rating
18:16 westmi whatever that is
18:16 SparkyProjects1 I think when the system is set up, there should be a difference of about 5C between inlet and outlet of each rad
18:17 Seroster westmi, It was made during the 1920s.
18:17 SparkyProjects1 Most home installations have a 20cm pair of pipes as the main run, then 12mm pipes as branches to the rads
18:18 SparkyProjects1 *22mm main runs
18:21 Seroster So then the runs to the upstairs is a main
18:21 SparkyProjects1 yep
18:21 Seroster Kickass.
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18:22 SparkyProjects1 Hyst run a pair of 22mm pipes from the downstairs to upstairs, and for each room get a 22mm to 15mm Tee for each pipe run
18:23 SparkyProjects1 *Just
18:23 mashpriborintorg hyia
18:23 SparkyProjects1 Hi
18:23 Zozo-Away druid, you there?
18:23 Seroster I REALLY want to avoid running from down to up
18:24 Seroster Because that implies tearing down walls
18:25 SparkyProjects1 Run the pipes thtough a cupboard (whre the hot water tak is) if possible
18:26 Seroster It's an anicent house, it was made by first removing some of the brick wall, putting the pipes in the wall and then covering it up with grout and paint it
18:27 Seroster If I have to get another feed to the upstairs I gotta go from the pump to the corner across the house, then up, and then back, or pull the pipes outside the house.  Pulling a new run will be at least 200meters, not counting the 12m height difference from the basement to second floor.
18:28 SparkyProjects1 My house was built in about 1911, there's a box section in one corner of the living room
18:28 SparkyProjects1 Try to find the old pipes, follow the circuit round, it must emerge somewhere
18:28 Seroster I dunno what the price for proper pipe is, but it needs to be bought, mounted and insulated, knowing that every meter you add is another potential leak
18:28 Seroster I'll try to dig the plans for the hosue up next time I'm around =)
18:30 SparkyProjects1 Is there any part of the downstairs system that is closer to where you prefer to run the pipes upstairs ?
18:30 SparkyProjects1 As long as you can cut into 22mm pipes you should be good
18:30 Seroster It's a really damn nice house, friggin huge, at least 400 square meters of living area plus 200m2 basement, 100m2 attict, toolshed, lumbershed, garage for the lawntractor and a hot garage in the basement, next to the sauna. The entire property is 6000m2
18:31 SparkyProjects1 doesn't matter if it's at the end of a run
18:31 Seroster So you don't think I can just splice on the 22mm that are already on the floor I need them to be?
18:32 SparkyProjects1 As long as you can find a 22mm flow and return, that's fine
18:32 SparkyProjects1 remembee that an old installlation might be imperial, you may need a couple of 22mm to 3/4 adaptors
18:33 Seroster My plan is to buy the house when they move out, rent a part of it to one of my brothers, another part to my other brother, and a part to my mother in law. The house cost is pretty much just £1500 a month during wintertime, about £400 in the summer.  That would allow me to save up quite a lot of money to overhaul the attict, wich is twice the size of my apartment.
18:34 Seroster Right, I got two 22mm pipes on the second floor, If that isn't flow and return I'm abe lincoln ;P
18:41 SparkyProjects1 Thhat would be my guess, depending on where the header tank is.
18:41 SparkyProjects1 There should be a couple of pipes, one is normally 15mm for cold water to top up the system, the other is normally 22mm as a vent
18:45 HighMan_MFT_Cell Tonsofpc, XD GIGIGI
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18:49 eadthem the long awaited fridge vacuum  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgEGH8P414&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G22517bbFUAAAAAAACAA
18:49 BotSteve Title: Mini Fridge-Freezer Destroyed by Vacuum - YouTube
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19:25 angy morning tiny pony!
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19:50 angy hello lovely islander
19:50 tlockley hello
20:09 * Seroster giggles and hyperventilates
20:12 angy kukwork?
20:12 Seroster SparkyProjects1, My motstack feeds on 230v phase-neutral.   Wouldnt I get twice the arc out if I run it on 400v phase-phase?
20:15 Electricguy you would get a dead short..
20:15 Electricguy and perhaps some fire
20:17 SparkyProjects1 Seroster, yes, almost double the power
20:17 SparkyProjects1 but it will get hotter
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20:19 Experimentonomen g'evenin peepsterz
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20:38 Monkeh Seroster: Pipe isn't a potential leak. Only joints.
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20:39 wanna-werk ...
20:39 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
20:39 angy .cookie egrsteve
20:39 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
20:40 egrsteve mmm m&M I like those
20:40 wanna-werk it didn't work here :D
20:40 wanna-werk hahahahahahah
20:40 wanna-werk a
20:40 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive kelly crazy
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20:41 * Experimentonomen looks @ egrsteve
20:41 egrsteve now it should wotch with string matching of wanna, wannabe wannabe|tgg ect
20:41 wanna-werk doesn't work steve....
20:41 wanna-werk i'm on the web browser,....it only dings the nick i'm currently using
20:42 egrsteve ah, ok, I figured it still used string matching but it must need a 100% match then
20:42 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
20:42 ajprog_laptop what like this wanna-werk
20:43 wanna-werk lol
20:43 wanna-werk yes jeff
20:43 wanna-werk http://blogs.woodtv.com/2012/03/10/severe-storms-2/  ooo hail and tornadoes.  sounds fun
20:43 BotSteve Title: Severe Storms and Tornadoes?! | WOODTV.com Blogs
20:48 wanna-werk awwww back to werks.
20:48 wanna-werk late break.
20:48 wanna-werk left waterbottle at home
20:48 wanna-werk going. crazy.  help
20:48 wanna-werk exterminate
20:49 ajprog_laptop ok wanna-werk
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20:49 Experimentonomen g'evenin zozo
20:49 Guardianzozo yo
20:50 Experimentonomen egrsteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3SZCDR2Bw
20:50 BotSteve Title: Phase angle controlled variable dc power supply - YouTube
21:07 Seroster monkeh, every meter of pipe isnt a potential leak, but every joint is, yes, you are correct. But every extra meter of piping will mean more joints and more potential leaks.
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21:45 Druidic_Rifleman anyone know an artist who wouldn'tmind doing a poster for me?
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21:47 Monkeh Seroster: Dunno about you, but I can handle lengths greater than 1m. :P
21:48 Seroster Depends on how large ass you got.
21:48 Monkeh Seroster: In your case you can handle LOTS then
21:49 Ponko umm
21:49 Ponko wtf
21:51 Seroster Shut up foldy
21:53 Ponko lol
21:54 Ponko so much i could say but it's NSFW
21:59 SparkyProjects1 Depends how much room you have to manouvre the pipe
22:06 Ponko http://www.ohmypictures.com/i-m-guessing-he-has-bieber-on-the-other-arm_420.html poor bloke
22:06 BotSteve Title: I’m Guessing He Has Bieber On The Other Arm - Oh!!! My Pictures
22:06 Hackbat DL
22:06 Hackbat *D:
22:06 Hackbat I accidently Melted Concrete
22:06 Ponko eh?
22:06 Ponko with what?
22:07 Hackbat DIY arc light
22:11 egrsteve nice
22:11 egrsteve carbon electrodes?
22:14 Hackbat Yep
22:14 Hackbat Flipped a 15 amp breaker 3 times before I stopped
22:15 egrsteve ne
22:15 egrsteve *nice
22:15 Hackbat Using a camco DC motor speed controller as a power source.
22:16 egrsteve that would do it, 80v motor?
22:16 Hackbat 90 I belive
22:16 egrsteve thats what I meant
22:16 egrsteve 10v off, opps
22:17 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
22:17 Hackbat I melted both the concrete and my eyes.
22:18 angy one of that is interchangeable
22:18 egrsteve you now have sandy feeling welder eye
22:19 Hackbat took me like 5 minutes to realise the spot on the ground was glass and not a blue spot.
22:34 einball Deus ex is great
22:36 Sgt_Lemming ow, sore lemming
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22:37 Sgt_Lemming feeling the results of yesterdays exercises just a wee bit
22:43 Seroster ******facebook
22:44 Sgt_Lemming heh
22:45 Sgt_Lemming went and did a high ropes course yesterday
22:45 Sgt_Lemming feeling a wee bit sore today
22:47 Seroster ...Fuck this school mail program.
22:48 Seroster I know there's a break in schedule tomorrow, and I check online what is scheduled for tomorrow, and it says "Theme day" - but not when it befuckinggins.
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22:54 BatSteve and I'm back.
22:54 BatSteve anything interesting happen while I was gone?
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22:55 HighMan Hola
22:55 HighMan Continuity tester using a psu and sparks. :)
22:56 Sgt_Lemming lot BatSteve
22:56 Sgt_Lemming I spent yesterday clambering around on a highwire course
22:56 Seroster Yeah
22:56 Seroster Lots
22:57 Sgt_Lemming gah, that was meant to be
22:57 Sgt_Lemming "lo"
22:57 * BitViper|tgg moans
22:57 * Sgt_Lemming turns BitViper|tgg's vibrator off
22:57 BitViper|tgg *facedesk*
22:58 * BitViper|tgg is not a happy camper at the moment
22:58 Sgt_Lemming oh?
22:58 HighMan BitViper|tgg, You ok?
22:58 HighMan Sgt_Lemming, XD
22:58 BitViper|tgg did too much actual work last night and today. im paying for it big time
22:59 Sgt_Lemming BitViper|tgg, know the feeling
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22:59 Sgt_Lemming I spent yesterday clambering around on a high ropes course
22:59 HighMan sTake it down anknotch?
22:59 HighMan *Take it down a knotch?
23:00 BatSteve (I heard that and thought of Minecraft)
23:00 HighMan (I don't get any reference relating to minecraft other than maybe creepers)
23:01 BatSteve Notch is the creator of the game.
23:01 HighMan Oh...
23:01 HighMan Just curiously
23:01 HighMan .w notch
23:01 BotSteve "The nock of an arrow" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notch
23:01 HighMan .define nock
23:01 BotSteve nock — noun: 1. Either of the two grooves in a bow that hold the bowstring, 2. The notch at the rear of an arrow that fits on the bowstring — verb: 1. (trans.) To fit an arrow against the bowstring of a bow or crossbow, 2. (trans.) To cut a nock in (usually in an arrow's base or the tips of[...]
23:01 HighMan Ok....
23:02 Seroster Sometimes being maniacal is great, sometimes not so great....
23:03 Seroster It's midnight and my clock is set for 6am sharp.   "Hm. I should sharpen my axe. *gets the file*"
23:03 HighMan Ivar
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23:04 finiteinfinity hi room
23:05 finiteinfinity I actually found a room with people in it! WOW!!!
23:05 HighMan That's not right... finiteinfinity
23:05 finiteinfinity What are you folks discussing right now?
23:05 HighMan Seroster's sexual orientation
23:05 HighMan I mean gender
23:05 finiteinfinity hello highman'
23:06 Seroster Hello finiteinfinity, wtf?
23:06 HighMan lol
23:06 finiteinfinity what about that poersons sexual orientation?
23:06 HighMan I meant gender
23:06 Seroster No, whether I got a dick or a twat.
23:06 Seroster It's a discussion that really shouldn't be held in here.
23:06 HighMan He's both.
23:07 finiteinfinity LOL - it doesn't matter to me, so long as you have a thinking brain
23:07 HighMan And if you are new the hell hole of this place.
23:07 HighMan is seroster ;)
23:07 finiteinfinity Yes, i am totally new here
23:07 Seroster A most awesome machine; http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&amp;NR=1&amp;v=MYpZ5lGxOWg
23:07 BotSteve Title: USB Self-Destruct works too well - YouTube
23:07 Seroster finiteinfinity, Never heard of thegeekgroup until now?
23:07 HighMan masterofmonks, Get the tools ready we got a new one.
23:07 HighMan finiteinfinity, Ready to be intiated?
23:07 finiteinfinity No i haven't
23:07 Seroster In that case, if you are a geek, please check out the geek group at youtube, there are some pretty awesome vids there.
23:08 finiteinfinity It is my pleasure to meet you all
23:08 Seroster HighMan, Don't scare the potential new member.
23:08 Seroster Yo BatSteve!
23:08 HighMan xD finiteinfinity I'm just kidding
23:08 BatSteve ooh, new members?
23:08 BatSteve hi finiteinfinity
23:08 Seroster Yeah, take care of him while I go to bed, will ya?
23:08 finiteinfinity Ahhh mi amigos, i am not so easy to scare
23:08 HighMan My name is HighMan or Hy, coming to you from Florida.
23:08 Seroster It saddens me greatly that you will not keep me warm tonight, BatSteve, When will you come back here?
23:08 finiteinfinity Yo floridan HighMan
23:09 BatSteve sounds good, have a good night Seroster
23:09 HighMan Tienes sopa calliente en su pantalones, finiteinfinity
23:09 Seroster Hy is the only person in here that can't tie his own shoes =)
23:09 HighMan :P ^
23:09 HighMan Seroster, Is the troll
23:09 finiteinfinity villa con dios seroster, are you taking off/
23:09 Seroster ...Shutup. =p
23:09 finiteinfinity ?
23:09 finiteinfinity lol
23:09 Seroster Whatever language that is I don't speak it
23:09 BatSteve finiteinfinity: what brings you here?
23:09 HighMan finiteinfinity, Usted habla espanol?
23:10 finiteinfinity Well I personally have been working on that so ugly he's cute look
23:10 HighMan Also a tip, you can type first few letters of the person and press tab.
23:10 finiteinfinity And i'm doing a pretty darned good job of it too
23:10 Seroster finiteinfinity, It's a hard look to master, most people who try just end up looking like John Mccain.
23:10 BatSteve Unless you're John McCain...
23:10 finiteinfinity I speak some spanish
23:10 HighMan Don't try... Screw looks.
23:10 BatSteve Which would be kind of cool.
23:11 HighMan Ah si, Estoy en la clase de espanol 2 y me gusta hablar espanol
23:11 BatSteve (Or John McLaine)
23:11 finiteinfinity I worked down in the silver and gold mines as an assayer, geologest and chemist for a while
23:11 Seroster I'd prefer mclaine
23:11 finiteinfinity down in mexico that is
23:11 BatSteve COOL.
23:11 Seroster Kickass!
23:11 HighMan Nice
23:11 BatSteve How long did you do that?
23:11 Seroster I have no idea what an aassayer does, but I like that it got "ass" in it.
23:11 finiteinfinity si Highman
23:12 HighMan .element finiteinfinity
23:12 BotSteve Here you go, finiteinfinity, I'm giving you 272 grams of pure Actinium !
23:12 HighMan Merry Christmas ^
23:12 BatSteve It's not Christmas though
23:12 HighMan Seroster, Is a multi gender, and likes both sexes btw
23:12 Seroster Holy crap, I dropped my unobtanium and it broke :O
23:12 HighMan It's christmas somewhere lol
23:12 finiteinfinity Trabajo in mexico, en los cordillas de siera madres, en los minas por oro y plata
23:12 Seroster Yeah, I like all sexes, except for "highman"
23:13 HighMan I work in mexico in the something of something moms, in the mines for gold and silver
23:13 Seroster ...Keep mothers out of it, eh?
23:13 BatSteve in the mountains of the sierra madre
23:13 HighMan Both cognates and my english lol
23:13 HighMan *spanish xD
23:13 Seroster Anyway, I'mma grab a cat or two and hit the hay, cya folks
23:13 BatSteve so long Seroster
23:13 HighMan He also eats animals.
23:13 finiteinfinity well thank you for the actinium, now where can i find someplace shilded good enough to keep everyone from dying of radiation poisoning? LOL
23:13 BatSteve I eat animals
23:14 HighMan xD
23:14 Druidic_Rifleman animals are made from food
23:14 HighMan Domesticated animals
23:14 Seroster finiteinfinity, If you don't come  back here in the future I'll personally take a piss in your tomatoe soup, you seem like a fun chap. Cya.
23:14 HighMan Dogs, Cats, Rats, Hamsters, Guiennea Pigs
23:14 finiteinfinity LOL highman
23:14 HighMan And some canniblistic qualities, but that doesn't really work out since he's the only one of his kind.
23:14 BatSteve finiteinfinity: do you still work there, or have you moved on to bigger and better things?
23:15 * HighMan Doens talking about sero.
23:15 finiteinfinity What I said was that I worked down in Mexico in the Sierra Madre Mountian Range, in the silver and gold mines
23:15 finiteinfinity druidic, yeah and i do eat them
23:15 finiteinfinity By the way you should know that I am a native american
23:15 HighMan Cool
23:16 HighMan What do you work as now?
23:16 BatSteve Noted.
23:16 eadthem i just fucked up
23:16 finiteinfinity there isn't much out their in thee way of wild animals, plants, nuts, berries, tubers, barks, and mushroons that i haven't eaten at one time or another
23:17 finiteinfinity I am totally disabled now, and in a wheelchair for over 15 years with a neuromuscular disorder
23:17 eadthem i was metering a bigger than mot sized transformer for the welder project   had 120V on the variac in to it via a euro terminal block
23:17 HighMan finiteinfinity, Them mines did that to you?
23:18 HighMan Sorry for you...
23:18 eadthem and i said  ok   i got the mesuremnts  im done   time to unhook it.  so i disconnected black and then white and i got a nice spark when i unscrewed the white
23:18 eadthem using a small metal uninsulated screwdriver
23:18 finiteinfinity no, I have a very rear hereditary neuromuscular disorder
23:18 HighMan eadthem, XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
23:18 HighMan Dang, so what do you do now?
23:18 eadthem so    thats why i put the wood floor on the carpet in my apartment.:p
23:19 finiteinfinity Don't feel sorry for me, I thank the great I am every day for both my blessings and my aflictions, because in the long run both turn me into a better person
23:19 eadthem for about 10 sec i was charged to 120V via a 5A fuse and didnt notice
23:19 HighMan Well as long as you are happy!
23:19 finiteinfinity eadthem - are you welding something?
23:19 HighMan If all else fails, be happy.
23:20 eadthem almost welded me
23:20 finiteinfinity Exactly, life is too darned short to go around feeling sorry for yourself and making everyone else around you misserable too.
23:21 HighMan Something I learned is to ALWAYS be happy.
23:21 Electricguy bedtime! night all :)
23:21 eadthem ya  im gonna dig up that schmatic for the iso box i was going to build
23:21 finiteinfinity LOL - I accidently shuved a red hot welding rod right up my nose one time while flipping up my hood.
23:21 eadthem dam the cost  im gonan build the thing     i think i just prooved that nomatter how much you know about this stuff  1 mistake  could be it
23:21 finiteinfinity Good noght eadthem
23:22 finiteinfinity swanyo con los angeles
23:22 HighMan Soy de los angeles
23:22 finiteinfinity lol
23:22 HighMan Well, near westminster or canoga park
23:23 finiteinfinity what you doing down there in florida HighMan?
23:23 finiteinfinity My son was born in florida back in 1978
23:23 HighMan I'm 14...
23:23 HighMan Idk what i'm doing here
23:23 finiteinfinity LOL, going to school right?
23:23 HighMan Yes sir
23:24 finiteinfinity so i take it you all like astronomy, and maybe cosmology?
23:24 HighMan HAHAHA no...
23:24 finiteinfinity Good going
23:24 HighMan Well, my mom is a cosmotologist or nail tech, dad is a machinist
23:24 finiteinfinity Anyone here interested in astronomy and even beter, cosmology?
23:25 HighMan My mom is a mial tech does that count?
23:25 HighMan *nail
23:25 finiteinfinity Nothing wrong with either of those two professions my young friend
23:25 eadthem well i got a 900W mot to be converted and i got a 900VA UPS transformer thats ready to go for 16.33V out at 61-55 amps
23:26 finiteinfinity Hey, thaat's almost good enough to plate out platinum with!
23:26 BatSteve What's the difference between astronomy and cosmology?
23:26 HighMan XD
23:26 finiteinfinity thaat's = that's
23:26 HighMan I read it wrong I thought it said cosmetology!
23:28 finiteinfinity astronomy iis the aplied physics of actually looking and observing what the universe has to reveal to us, while cosmology is the theoretical aspects of physics dealing with hpow the universe came into being and how it came to be the way it is today.
23:29 BatSteve Interesting, didn't understand that distinction until now.
23:29 BatSteve I'm interested in both but an expert in neither
23:29 finiteinfinity please ignore my occassional doubling of a letter, I have a centeral nerve tremor and that causes it. I can't really see good enough to catch it ahead of it posting on the chat board
23:29 eadthem so now the question is    whats everyones thoughts on wether or not a gfci would still protect someone on the output of a variac or would the gfci need to be after the variac
23:29 finiteinfinity yo Batsteve
23:29 eadthem im thinking it would need to be after
23:29 BatSteve finiteinfinity: trust me, there are people here with FAR worse spelling than you.  (You know who you are)
23:30 eadthem <
23:30 HighMan Who? (My autocorrect doesn't count)
23:30 BatSteve eadthem: Don't take chances, just use a KUKA robot for everything from now on.
23:30 eadthem well this is for the iso box
23:30 * HighMan Thinks of kuka robotic bionic human parts...
23:30 finiteinfinity eadthem, what does gfci stand for, and then maybe i can help. However, since i am color blind, electronics has never been my strong suit
23:31 * eadthem wonders if he has a early photo of it
23:31 egrsteve a gfci ultimatly compares current in and current out, when they are out of balance it trips
23:32 BatSteve Ground Fault...circuit interrupter?  That's a guess.
23:32 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/boxhalfDone.jpg
23:32 eadthem idea being that a person would be grounded  and they would draw current from the circut that would not return via the circut
23:32 finiteinfinity okay, so it serves sorte of like a two way breaker switch, to allow things to come back into ballance again?
23:32 eadthem of corse if the person is connected to white and touches black  you appear to be a load and it will not trip
23:33 HighMan Remember have one hand in your pocket.
23:33 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/boxhalfDone.jpg
23:33 finiteinfinity I understand, because of thee risistance to the flow of the current you would place a load on the circutry
23:34 eadthem pritty much there are 2 current transformers inside a GFCI
23:34 finiteinfinity okay
23:34 eadthem there tied together in serise  and the load on them is a electromagnet that woudl trip the breaker
23:35 eadthem there wound in the same direction    1 around black  1 around white
23:35 finiteinfinity well most elecctrical circuts work very similar to pipes carrying a liquide, and i am well versed in that stuff
23:35 eadthem so as long as the same current is going in white thats comming out of black   it wont trip
23:35 eadthem as soon as 1 side has a bit more curernt than the other it trips
23:35 eadthem the target is 10mA
23:36 finiteinfinity okay
23:36 injektion I have started to take all the fun out of my computer names
23:36 finiteinfinity hi ya injektion
23:37 injektion hi
23:37 BatSteve injektion: oh?  What're you naming them?
23:37 finiteinfinity can you guess where my user name came from/
23:37 finiteinfinity ??
23:37 injektion Hmm
23:37 finiteinfinity if it is finite, yet infinite, what is it?
23:37 injektion time
23:38 injektion BatSteve, location-purpose-number
23:38 finiteinfinity sorte of, it is an extreem distortion in both time and space
23:38 BatSteve injektion: ah, I see
23:38 BatSteve finiteinfinity: Sounds more like a contradiction in terms to me.
23:39 finiteinfinity it discrobes a black hole, an infinite quantum singularity
23:39 finiteinfinity oops, describes
23:39 injektion BatSteve, for example: GA210C1-DC-0
23:40 BatSteve What's a quantum singularity?
23:41 finiteinfinity Looking upon a black hole from a distance from the outside, one can measure the mass of the black hole, determin the spin of the black hole, and calculate the entropy of the black hole, so the black hole appears to be finite
23:41 Experimentonomen joined #thegeekgroup
23:41 BatSteve I'm with you so far
23:42 * Experimentonomen adds 2 more opamps and a comparator to his phase angle control thing to make it do the full cycle rather than just half of each half cycle
23:42 finiteinfinity However, if one was to pass through the event horizon of the black hole, you would leave our universe as we know it, and enter into a realm where space and time has become so distorted, and the laws of physics so non-applicable, as we know them, that for all intents and purposes the black hole would become like an expanding universe to you
23:43 finiteinfinity Hi ya experiment
23:44 finiteinfinity When people ask me what it is like within a black hole, i just tell them to look at the universe around them, and they will know
23:45 BatSteve Huh, wild
23:45 finiteinfinity In other words, space and time is expanding withing the vortex of a black hole creating the expanding universe we observe
23:46 finiteinfinity That is my hypothesis I came up with in 1995, and so far it has proven true.
23:46 Experimentonomen who is finiteinfinity ? roadran422 i suppose
23:46 BatSteve new person
23:46 finiteinfinity No experimentonomen, I am new here
23:47 HighMan Oh so nice of you Experimentonomen
23:47 HighMan finiteinfinity, My username was roadran422 but changed it to highMan in relationship to my real name.
23:48 finiteinfinity Sorry folks, my computer came unattached to the internet by accident
23:48 BatSteve We didn't notice.
23:48 HighMan Running ethernet I suppose
23:48 finiteinfinity I also decided to turn on a light so i can see my keyboard
23:49 HighMan Are you on a laptop?
23:49 finiteinfinity No, DSL cable
23:49 finiteinfinity yes
23:49 HighMan Oh...
23:49 finiteinfinity i am on a lap top
23:50 finiteinfinity I bought it to start a business on Ebay buying and selling precious and simi-precious gemstones, and necklaces that I make
23:50 HighMan That's cool
23:50 BatSteve Interesting! How's that going for you?
23:50 finiteinfinity But my health hads become to bad to make a go of it
23:50 HighMan Do you have family to help...
23:51 finiteinfinity Oh yes, My 73 year old mother, my 34 year old son, and i live in the same apartment together
23:52 HighMan How anout father and wife? (Sorry to ask if I may)
23:52 finiteinfinity Like i said, I am a native American indian and we almost always have multi-generational households
23:52 finiteinfinity my father died of lung caancer about 15 years ago, and my wife died of breast cancer 11 years ago
23:53 undert23 joined #thegeekgroup
23:53 HighMan Sorry for your loss...
23:53 finiteinfinity howdy undert23
23:53 HighMan Hi undert23
23:54 finiteinfinity Im new here amigo, so please parden any lack of knowledge I may have deaaling with costomery praxtices in this chat room
23:55 finiteinfinity highman, hey, it did hurt to loose my wife, my father i hardly knew though. But death is just the flip side of life
23:55 BatSteve finiteinfinity: don't worry, someone will tell you if you're doing something wrong.  So far, you're fine.
23:55 finiteinfinity they come hand in glove
23:55 HighMan :(
23:55 HighMan Agreed to BatSteve I've been told a few times not to do things ;)
23:56 HighMan LIKE CALLING THE BOT BROKEN BECAUSE IT ISN'T WORK THE WAY IT IS.
23:56 BatSteve OR SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS
23:56 HighMan Also about the bot ask BatSteve
23:56 finiteinfinity I use to caht in a phiosphy chat at go.com back before the dot com bubble burst, man thaat was a great chat room
23:56 HighMan .cookie finiteinfinity
23:56 BotSteve Here you go, finiteinfinity, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
23:56 HighMan This is the bot^ Your new friend and my enemy... Sort of.
23:57 finiteinfinity muchos grocieous amigo
23:57 HighMan God BatSteve Why you got to be like that? No yelling!
23:57 HighMan De Nada
23:57 HighMan y Muchos Gracias...
23:57 finiteinfinity es no problemo
23:58 finiteinfinity I've taken a little spanish at the university, but I learned most of my spanish down in the mountians of mexico
23:58 BatSteve finiteinfinity: so, I'm interested to know how you found us.  Most people get here from the videos.
23:59 injektion After contemplating using more professional computer/device names I decided not to progress further. I had this sick feeling as soon as I did it
23:59 finiteinfinity not me - I typed in Cosmology chat rooms in my yahoo search and started clicking on links untill i found a chat room with real live people in it.
23:59 finiteinfinity LOL

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