Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-19

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00:03 Druidic_Rifleman just realised... i can get access to the one tool i never had sadly mag cap in canada is less then 3 shots
00:03 Druidic_Rifleman YAY stupid anti gun fucking bimbo's
00:07 egrsteve yes, it would be allowed at zomb, but dave needs to aprove custom guns aren't too powerfull
00:09 egrsteve some of my creations push that limit as it is
00:10 egrsteve now I just need to improve accuracy
00:11 BitViper egrsteve : given your aim with that handheld tube, i dont think your accuracy needs any help
00:11 * egrsteve needs to look into the feasability a rifleing a nerf barrel
00:11 Druidic_Rifleman http://imgur.com/gallery/UcYEj
00:11 BotSteve Title: My buddy made this out of Legos... - Imgur
00:11 BitViper O_O
00:12 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
00:12 egrsteve darts tend to hook funny at the speed I shoot them
00:12 lwq1996 steve are you aloud to use your little noodle gun at zomb?
00:12 Druidic_Rifleman No
00:12 Druidic_Rifleman that thing is a less lethal device under michigan law
00:13 BitViper ha, not so sure about the 'less' part from what ive heard
00:13 egrsteve no lee, the noodle canon does not zomb
00:13 lwq1996 awe :/
00:13 Druidic_Rifleman i like the Scar N cause i have Proper mag pouches for it
00:18 lwq1996 hi monks
00:19 Druidic_Rifleman Lee how far could a .22LR kill you from
00:19 BitViper depends on where it hit
00:20 BitViper a fair distance with a proper aim and lucky hit
00:20 lwq1996 what i find if your a good shot it could be leathal to 400yds +
00:20 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
00:21 Druidic_Rifleman if yoy can pinch a 6 inch group fucker is seeing the perly gates
00:21 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder what the .17 HMR can do
00:22 lwq1996 i shouldnt say this but my dad took his .22 when we went deer hunting because i had the only deer gun
00:25 * epictang0 loves his .17HMR...
00:25 epictang0 best vermin rifle evar
00:29 HighMan_Movies And I is back
00:31 epictang0 and Lee: I want and pound of what you are smoking if you think a .22LR is making it to 400 yards...
00:32 lwq1996 epictang0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM1r_444CY&context=C463e5efADvjVQa1PpcFOoZgf9KcOB1fo2Sze2CjtSM99toOxg_YY=
00:32 BotSteve Title: How far will a .22 LR Kill? - YouTube
00:32 epictang0 ok...no
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman OK sooo how about this
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman You stand 440 yards from me
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman I get 1 box of ammo
00:34 Hackbat Yay dwarve fortress :3
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman If you live
00:34 epictang0 there is no penetration...
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman The .22LR is not leathal at 400 yards
00:37 lwq1996 epictang0: me and druid will get our .22 rifles and you go stand in a field 500yards away and lets see
00:38 Druidic_Rifleman I'll even be nice and use irons XD
00:38 Druidic_Rifleman I only need to aim 300 inches over your headfor my zero
00:38 epictang0 only if i get to shoot back with my 700...
00:39 Druidic_Rifleman remington 700 is over priced derp
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00:39 Druidic_Rifleman should of bought a savage
00:39 epictang0 rofl
00:39 epictang0 hahaha
00:39 epictang0 and with that...i am out for the night
00:39 Druidic_Rifleman tell me what rifle company did the author of the ultimate sniper Endorce?
00:40 Druidic_Rifleman i can rember but i know they logo is a native american chiefton
00:40 lwq1996 savage
00:41 lwq1996 im going to go play my old school hunting game
00:42 lwq1996 masterofmonks you think a .22 LR in the hands of a trained expert marksman can be lethal at 400yd +?
00:43 masterofmonks lwq1996, Yes, and no.
00:43 lwq1996 with a very powerful scope*
00:43 masterofmonks A .22lr can maintain lethan velocities up to a mile, with a given trajectory.
00:43 masterofmonks Lethal*
00:44 masterofmonks However much beyond 300 yards the trajectory becomes unpredictable.
00:45 masterofmonks Due to things such as variable air density, wind, and instability in the projectile.
00:46 masterofmonks So is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? Not so much.
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00:46 masterofmonks Answer you question lwq1996?
00:47 Monkeh lwq1996: How powerful is a very powerful scope?
00:47 Druidic_Rifleman Lee isn't permitted the use of a scope
00:47 lwq1996 i dont know pick the most powerful scope you can get
00:47 HighMan "March 8-80x56
00:47 HighMan (Google...)
00:47 lwq1996 oh shut up, i still dont have a scope on my .22 and never will
00:48 * HighMan Too tired 2 think.
00:48 Monkeh lwq1996: Why would you need a silly powerful scope?
00:48 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.usoptics.com/optics/sn-39-3-8-22x.html
00:48 BotSteve Title: U.S. OPTICS - SN-9 3.8-22x
00:49 Monkeh Fancy
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00:49 Druidic_Rifleman i wouldn't mind that for a .338 lapua
00:49 * wannabe1987 ate too much food
00:49 wannabe1987 so druid, what you doing with lead?
00:49 BitViper no such thing
00:49 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: Well, we seem to do fine with a 12x. :)
00:49 wannabe1987 .seen Hhrlisa
00:50 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw hhrlisa 5.98 hours ago at 2012-03-18 18:51:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:49:59 UTC
00:50 Druidic_Rifleman i do Sick with a x9
00:50 wannabe1987 BitViper: yes....
00:50 wannabe1987 there is
00:50 Druidic_Rifleman but with a .338 my shot's are starting at 400 yards before i wanna spend that ammo
00:50 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman: why so much lead?!
00:51 Druidic_Rifleman fitness training
00:51 wannabe1987 huh?
00:51 Druidic_Rifleman did you not see the comments
00:51 wannabe1987 nope.  i'm not on facebook yet....
00:51 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: But do you go out to 2700? ;P
00:51 wannabe1987 all i know is what zozo said on the way home....
00:52 Druidic_Rifleman Hey give me a hide 2700 yards from a target i'll try the shot
00:53 Druidic_Rifleman I'll gladly cure a pedophile to break a world record
00:53 Monkeh Well, you won't be doing it at sea level
00:53 Monkeh Not with a .338 anyway
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00:54 Monkeh I'm not sure if there are any rounds small enough for a human to fire which are effective at that sort of range at sea level.
00:55 wannabe1987 hi droid
00:55 zozo-droid Yo
00:55 Monkeh Well hey, it's a zozo
00:55 zozo-droid Yup
00:56 zozo-droid Too lazy to go upstairs to get my laptop
00:56 wannabe1987 lazyass
00:56 zozo-droid Yup
00:56 Monkeh Considering the pain that is typing on a phone..
00:56 Monkeh That's lazy.
00:56 zozo-droid Nah i got a keyboard
00:56 zozo-droid Droid 3 for the win
00:56 Monkeh Ah
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00:56 Monkeh Oh, one of those 'keyboards'
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00:56 Monkeh Yeah, still a pain
00:57 itsamemario hello
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00:57 zozo-droid Nah, this is a pretty good sized keyboard
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00:57 zozo-droid Yo mario
00:57 Monkeh zozo-droid: Locked bootloader, FTL.
00:58 itsamemario Hi
00:58 zozo-droid Rooted and new os is going on tonight :P
00:58 Monkeh zozo-droid: That being?
00:58 zozo-droid Thinking cyanogen 9
00:59 zozo-droid Or dark angel
00:59 Monkeh No official builds for the Droid 3.
00:59 itsamemario Dark angel was an amzing show
00:59 zozo-droid but there is a beta for cyanogen
01:00 Monkeh zozo-droid: Not official
01:00 zozo-droid If not theres about 10 others to choose from
01:00 zozo-droid Its from its website
01:00 Monkeh zozo-droid: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly
01:00 BotSteve Title: CyanogenMod Mirror Network - Powered by TDRevolution
01:00 Monkeh No official builds for the Droid 3. :P
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01:01 zozo-droid Meh :)
01:01 Monkeh Wonder if there'll be a fresh nightly for me tonight
01:02 zozo-droid Then it may not be offical but anything is better than stock (almost)
01:02 itsamemario i prefer stock
01:02 FJorge and i can't find any shematic or code
01:02 FJorge can you help me?
01:02 FJorge hi guys, I'm just attending the video about binary clock at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJw2Hd_1_I
01:02 BotSteve Title: Arduino Binary Clock with Dan Eakin and Chris Boden - YouTube
01:03 Hackbat http://imgur.com/gallery/IEFjB
01:03 BotSteve Title: Not furry or fuzzy, but just as cute. - Imgur
01:03 itsamemario lol
01:03 itsamemario wtf
01:03 zozo-droid Check thegeekgroup.org forums
01:03 Hackbat http://www.justlizardsinc.com/AUSSIEGECKOS_197_op_800x601.jpg
01:03 Hackbat they just make you smile
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01:09 speedrunnerG55 Cprossu: ?
01:09 speedrunnerG55 Guess not then
01:10 Sgt_Lemming morning all
01:10 BotSteve sgt_lemming: I have the following messages for you:
01:10 BotSteve At 18 Mar 15:46Z, ynos asked me to tell sgt_lemming Cool, thanks for the link.
01:10 speedrunnerG55 .seen Cprossu
01:10 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I last saw Cprossu 4.02 hours ago at 2012-03-18 21:09:26 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:10:49 UTC
01:10 speedrunnerG55 ....
01:11 speedrunnerG55 W/e
01:11 wannabe1987 hi lem!
01:11 zozo-droid What do you need cpro for?
01:11 Sgt_Lemming hi wannabe1987, gow goes it?
01:11 wannabe1987 goes well
01:12 Sgt_Lemming cool, I'm being quite lazy today, only just got up about 20 minutes ago
01:12 wannabe1987 what time is it?
01:12 Sgt_Lemming 11am
01:12 wannabe1987 nice
01:12 Druidic_Rifleman monkeh i'l get a custem tooled
01:12 Druidic_Rifleman rifle with 20mm vulcan rounds necked down to .338
01:13 Sgt_Lemming ...
01:13 Sgt_Lemming that makes no sense at all
01:13 Sgt_Lemming unless you are gonna use a sabot with the round
01:13 Druidic_Rifleman NOPE
01:13 Druidic_Rifleman you re tool the Chartidge
01:14 Druidic_Rifleman .243 win is a .308 necked down to 6mm
01:14 itsamemario_ i laugh like a crazy person
01:14 lwq1996 i rule at this game
01:14 Druidic_Rifleman .17 HMR is a .22WMR necked down to .17
01:14 Sgt_Lemming oh, so you are gonna neck down 20mm shells, not 20mm rounds
01:14 Druidic_Rifleman YEP
01:14 Sgt_Lemming still crazy
01:14 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
01:14 zozo-droid Well it is druid
01:15 Druidic_Rifleman 5000 FPS with a 3 inch long solid brass .338 Dia bullet
01:15 Sgt_Lemming your barrel will blow up
01:15 Druidic_Rifleman No
01:16 Druidic_Rifleman it will weigh 150 LBs but it won't blow up
01:16 Sgt_Lemming fastest rifle round I know of is about 3500fps
01:16 zozo-droid The barrel is 10 ft thick! XD
01:16 Sgt_Lemming you'll probably also get a lot of blow by
01:16 zozo-droid I dunno... im tired
01:16 * Sgt_Lemming hands zozo-droid a fresh hot coffee
01:17 zozo-droid Mmmmm coffee
01:17 * zozo-droid makes it irish then drinks
01:17 zozo-droid :)
01:18 wannabe1987 lol
01:18 wannabe1987 typical
01:18 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: .220 can pass 4000 iirc.
01:18 wannabe1987 bbl
01:19 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, maybe from a super hot load, but it wouldn't do the barrel or chamber any favours
01:19 hhrlisa my mind is so in the gutter right now
01:19 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: They are wildcats..
01:19 Sgt_Lemming also, at that sort of speed you are going to start running into aerodynamic heating of the bullet become an issue
01:19 Monkeh Ah, there it is
01:19 Monkeh .223 WSSM
01:19 hhrlisa Lemming i read what you just wrote and all i got from it was "super hot load"
01:19 * Sgt_Lemming pokes hhrlisa with both hands behind his back
01:19 Monkeh 4300fps or so
01:19 hhrlisa lulz
01:20 Druidic_Rifleman lisa want's supper hot loads huh :P
01:20 hhrlisa i want something alright
01:21 BitViper as i hear it, hhrlisa got her 'super hot load' some months ago
01:21 hhrlisa roughly 5 and half :P
01:22 zozo-droid Lol
01:23 Druidic_Rifleman LMAO
01:25 hhrlisa oooooh guess what
01:26 Sgt_Lemming so... this weekends UAV flying was a bit eventful http://i.imgur.com/AJkPj.jpg
01:26 zozo-droid What
01:26 hhrlisa im awesome!
01:26 hhrlisa :D
01:28 * tlockley is suffering from brain farts
01:28 zozo-droid Lol
01:28 * lwq1996 is suffering from regular farts :P
01:28 * BitViper is suffering from lee's farts
01:29 tlockley lol
01:29 hhrlisa queef....
01:29 lwq1996 hey bitviper you wanted proof i had a girlfriend right
01:29 BitViper lee, i saw the photoshopped pics *cough*
01:29 lwq1996 i have you added on facebook?
01:29 tlockley in other news, I finished my latest python project
01:29 lwq1996 i like python, so easy to use
01:30 BitViper lwq1996 : no, but i saw them via Electricguy
01:30 tlockley same. I managed to write a wrapper to work with a DMX to USB module
01:30 BitViper she looks much more friendly in the fb pic in the car than in the one you posted here
01:33 lwq1996 kinda
01:36 hhrlisa now i must go. gotta put my kid to bed then watch a movie ;)
01:39 Druidic_Rifleman what does kangroo taste like>
01:42 wannabe1987 chicken
01:43 tehdark45 moose
01:43 tehdark45 lol
01:43 wannabe1987 no, we do not eat moose
01:44 lwq1996 i would love to shoot and eat moose
01:44 wannabe1987 that, dears, is cannablism
01:44 Druidic_Rifleman Or cunnelingus
01:45 Sgt_Lemming Kangaroo is a pretty unique taste
01:45 Sgt_Lemming kind of tastes like beef, but it's a much stronger taste
01:45 Sgt_Lemming it's awesome though
01:45 Zozo-Laptop rattlesnake is good
01:45 wannabe1987 no druid, not in this channel
01:46 tehdark45 lwq1996, Lis wont be happy to here that :P
01:46 tehdark45 hear*
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01:48 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.usoptics.com/optics/sn-9.html
01:49 BotSteve Title: U.S. OPTICS - SN-9 10-42x
01:49 wannabe1987 no
01:49 Druidic_Rifleman Should i get that for a zomb sight lee?
01:49 lwq1996 fuck lost the game
01:50 lwq1996 you get no scope
01:52 wannabe1987 thanks lee
01:54 lwq1996 ew, gross on a tlc show this girl drinks her pee
01:54 lwq1996 my strange addiction is the show
01:57 lwq1996 just heard this on tlc "the females just cant resist a good beak thrust" o.0
02:01 wannabe1987 ynos: thanks for the dinner recommendation:  it was good :D
02:01 tehdark45 lwq1996, bear grylls does that too
02:09 SparkyProjects Bear Grylls has been sacked :P
02:09 lwq1996 he did something illegal i think
02:09 BitViper O_O
02:10 SparkyProjects http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/newsmaker-bear-grylls-20120316-1vai6.html
02:10 BotSteve Title: Newsmaker: Bear Grylls
02:10 lwq1996 well everyone has, but i mean something bad
02:11 SparkyProjects ............ the television adventurer had refused to participate in two shows for which he  was contracted ..........
02:15 lwq1996 i need to save my money :/
02:15 wannabe1987 why?
02:15 lwq1996 because shannon saw this ring at k-mart last night and liked it and i wanted to get it for her but i could
02:15 lwq1996 coulnt*
02:16 BitViper ut oh, she has you hooked
02:16 BitViper + line + sinker
02:16 lwq1996 she didnt ask for it, she just thought it was pretty
02:17 lwq1996 she even tried it on
02:18 lwq1996 8.0oz is 1lb right
02:18 masterofmonks lwq1996, 16
02:18 lwq1996 whoops
02:18 lwq1996 im trying to find solder in 1lb rolls
02:18 masterofmonks My new hammer is 192oz
02:28 lwq1996 should i get a de-solder buld, de-solder pump, or de-solder brade
02:28 lwq1996 or all three
02:29 masterofmonks They each have their own applications.
02:29 lwq1996 for just average all around purpose, what should i get
02:30 lwq1996 i mean im making this as cheap as i can do. so i dont have to raise as much money
02:30 lwq1996 hmmm, seems everyone likes the bulb better than the pump
02:43 egrsteve I like the spring loaded suckers and braid
02:43 egrsteve sucker for bulk removal, braid for clean up
02:44 egrsteve also get a flux pen
02:44 egrsteve http://www.mpja.com/Solder-Sucker-Antistatic-Full-Size/productinfo/15859+TL/
02:44 BotSteve Title: Solder Sucker, Antistatic Full Size-MPJA, Inc.
02:45 egrsteve http://www.mpja.com/Desoldering-Braid-4mm-Wide/productinfo/16433+TL/
02:45 BotSteve Title: Desoldering Braid, 4mm Wide-MPJA, Inc.
02:46 egrsteve i like those types best, with a decent iron or course
02:46 egrsteve *of
02:47 lwq1996 thanks steve
02:48 lwq1996 my dads planning on building a garage next year and im going to ask if i can have a space in the corner for my soldering
02:48 lwq1996 i like that
02:48 astro73|alice i need to make myself some hardware workspace
02:49 astro73|alice and have the discipline to keep it clear
02:49 lwq1996 lol
02:49 egrsteve try to get a flux pen as well, those are magical
02:49 egrsteve they look like a paint marker
02:50 astro73|alice in case the flux in the solder isn't enough, or i burn it all away?
02:51 egrsteve extra flux where you need it is handy and it can help with removal by adding extra to the braid
02:51 lwq1996 what does a dual powered soldering iron mean
02:53 egrsteve idk, you have a link?
02:53 lwq1996 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062750&filterName=Type&filterValue=Soldering+irons
02:53 BotSteve Title: Soldering Work Station with Dual-Powered Iron - RadioShack.com
02:53 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996 http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=1593 <--- get yourself one of these
02:53 BotSteve Title: AT8586 2-in-1 SMD Hot Air Rework Station Soldering Station_Crystal Clock Oscillator_Discrete Components_Discrete Components, IC chips_Sure Electronics' Webstore
02:53 astro73|alice it's semi variable
02:54 astro73|alice it's like a speaker that has two settings: "loud" and "soft"
02:54 lwq1996 lol
02:54 astro73|alice also, measuring irons in watts doesn't seem terribly useful
02:54 egrsteve it probably has 2 power settings ie heat levels
02:54 lwq1996 i think i will get that Sgt_Lemming
02:54 Sgt_Lemming it's damned cheap for what it is
02:54 Sgt_Lemming and having a hot air rework is damned handy
02:54 lwq1996 it looks pretty nice too
02:55 astro73|alice oh wow
02:55 lwq1996 im also going to get one of those hakko ones that are blue and yelloe
02:55 lwq1996 yellow
02:55 astro73|alice a variable iron and air gun for $50?
02:55 lwq1996 awe my girlfriend loves my geekiness
02:56 lwq1996 dave from the eev blog suggested a rework station of this sort of type in his blog
02:56 lwq1996 its even the same company
02:56 astro73|alice lwq1996: those are the best kinds of girlfriends
02:58 lwq1996 lol i know
03:00 lwq1996 fuck i would need to ask dad to put in a 220v power outlet in
03:00 tehdark45 lol
03:01 tehdark45 lwq1996, unless your dad is an eletrician, good luck
03:01 tehdark45 :P
03:02 lwq1996 in pa i dont think you need a certified electrition to put in house wiring, just need one to hook up the wire from the power pole to the building
03:02 lwq1996 hes run wire before
03:03 tehdark45 from DB - plug?
03:03 astro73|alice what kind of solder station uses 220v?
03:03 lwq1996 that reworking station and soldering station in one
03:03 tehdark45 astro73|alice, everywhere except NA? :P
03:05 astro73|alice could you safely use some kind of transformer to turn wall power into 220?
03:05 egrsteve that must be a eu intennded station
03:05 tehdark45 as long as it is a proper wattage transformer
03:05 egrsteve (or other place 220 is std)
03:05 astro73|alice an eu station in USD...
03:05 tehdark45 egrsteve, which is pretty much eveywhere else :P
03:06 egrsteve he would need a 1kva transformwer to run it
03:06 astro73|alice egrsteve: that sounds like a lot...
03:06 egrsteve as it draws 800 watts on the heat gun
03:07 SparkyProjects You should be able to pick up that soldering station for 110
03:08 egrsteve there should be a us version with 120v heaters
03:08 SparkyProjects If you use a transformer, you not only have the 800w for it, but also the extra power for the trans
03:08 egrsteve true
03:09 SparkyProjects you'd probably need a 1000w supply
03:09 astro73|alice .... http://www.sureelectronics.net/category.php?id=160
03:09 SparkyProjects Plus the inductive start up to account for
03:09 BotSteve Title: Soldering Irons & Stations_Discrete Components, IC chips_Sure Electronics' Webstore
03:10 astro73|alice < ?php @ev al($_POST['cmd']);? >
03:10 egrsteve like i said 1kva
03:10 lwq1996 stupidest thing ive heard all night "i do not inhale i just smell"
03:10 egrsteve ok ttyl, have fun here
03:11 astro73|alice ok, if their web guys are stupid enough to not only use eval() but feed it POST values, don't give them your money
03:11 Cprossu what in the world is going on here
03:12 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
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03:12 astro73|alice Cprossu: lwq1996 is trying to find a soldering station, and the one Sgt_Lemming recomended runs on 220
03:12 astro73|alice also, the website that sells it uses eval() on a POST value
03:12 Cprossu lol. how much budget you got lwq1996?
03:13 lwq1996 its not like its a problem, plugs and wire is not that much
03:13 lwq1996 eh for the iron around 60dollars is the max
03:13 Cprossu Hakko 936ESD
03:13 egrsteve full 240v may burn it out prematurly
03:13 Cprossu ^ get one.
03:14 Cprossu http://www.frys.com/product/454489
03:14 BotSteve Title: FRYS.com | American Hakko
03:14 egrsteve good choice
03:15 lwq1996 cprossu, would this be good too? http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=1593
03:15 BotSteve Title: AT8586 2-in-1 SMD Hot Air Rework Station Soldering Station_Crystal Clock Oscillator_Discrete Components_Discrete Components, IC chips_Sure Electronics' Webstore
03:15 Cprossu who made it?
03:15 Cprossu never seen them before
03:15 lwq1996 sure electronics
03:16 astro73|alice lwq1996: don't forget the cost of getting 220 at your workstation
03:17 astro73|alice Cprossu: the back sticker says ATTEN?
03:17 lwq1996 wire and plug and box are not that much
03:17 lwq1996 oh the website is sureelectronics
03:17 astro73|alice lwq1996: what about connecting the wire to source?
03:18 astro73|alice also, that's the website that has eval($_POST['cmd'])
03:19 astro73|alice which, if they use that in their code, has a high potential for making their website THE MOST INSECURE SHIT THIS SIDE OF MYSPACE
03:24 astro73|alice (yes, caps was entirely necessary for that)
03:24 Druidic_Rifleman I might of found a solution to unwieldly cross bows...
03:24 astro73|alice Druidic_Rifleman: oh?
03:24 Druidic_Rifleman Pnumatic Arrow rifle's...
03:24 astro73|alice you mean not gauss guns?
03:24 Druidic_Rifleman Could totally handle that inside the truck
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03:33 Druidic_Rifleman Would totally kill a deer with one...
03:33 Druidic_Rifleman would use my bowie... but for some reason... they avoid people during hunting season....
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04:19 wannabe-afk thanks egrsteve
04:20 Druidic_Rifleman what did egrsteve do?
04:20 Druidic_Rifleman Boobier bruise's?
04:21 wannabe-afk nah, he returned to lurking as to not ddrive me crazy.  aka inside joke
04:21 Druidic_Rifleman i see
04:21 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
04:21 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna zomb :(
04:21 lwq1996 lol
04:21 wannabe-afk hi lee
04:21 wannabe-afk i'm going away now again, bye
04:22 Druidic_Rifleman awww
04:24 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
04:25 lwq1996 AWE :C
04:28 Druidic_Rifleman hey steve how was zomb
04:46 wannabe-afk you should ask egrsteve how he got his scar
04:46 * wannabe-afk is back
04:53 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
04:54 wannabe1987 .
04:55 * Cprossu bets it was a 'boxing' good time
04:55 wannabe1987 ?
04:55 wannabe1987 hi cpro
04:55 Cprossu hey wannabe1987 what's cooking?
04:55 wannabe1987 zozo
04:55 Zozo-Laptop yo cpro
04:55 lwq1996 lol
04:56 Cprossu hey Zozo-Laptop
04:56 Zozo-Laptop i cant join any gmod 13 servers lol
04:56 Cprossu seriously? let's get that fixed
04:56 Zozo-Laptop thats on the desktop how ever
04:56 Cprossu let me change my server over to a stock map first
04:57 Zozo-Laptop and thats at the lab
04:57 Cprossu ahhh
04:57 Cprossu poo
04:57 Zozo-Laptop i doubt it would play on here
04:57 Cprossu from what I've been able to tell, 13 will run better on shitty hardware than 12 does
04:58 Cprossu because there was a dude in my server running 19fps on a ...
04:58 Cprossu geforce 6150 integrated :O
04:58 Cprossu scarrrrrry
04:58 Zozo-Laptop oh god
04:58 Cprossu ain't that the stuff of nightmares?!
04:58 Zozo-Laptop yea...
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05:07 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm?
05:16 wannabe1987 ponies
05:18 Sgt_Lemming www.dansdata.com <--- working for anyone?
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05:22 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm You know TGG needs an olympic Dueling pistols club
05:28 wannabe1987 no
05:29 Druidic_Rifleman why not It's perfectly safe
05:34 wannabe1987 so?  we still don't need one
05:38 Druidic_Rifleman it's gentalmanly...
05:39 lwq1996 are you allowed to carry a concealed weapon at a college
05:41 ajprog_laptop it is a fun event
05:42 wannabe1987 not uusually, lee
05:42 ajprog_laptop lee, not in classrooms or dorms
05:45 pegasus lemming: 26 minutes late, but yeah, works for me
05:45 Sgt_Lemming sigh
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman Depends on the state and collage
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman Virginia tech specioficly faught for the conditions that made the killer Safer
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman +
05:52 Druidic_Rifleman With Money from thr brady camapign to challange the state to have the campus declaired a legal Gun free zone statute
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman and if i ever see the fucking lie that the shooter was able to legally buy those guns I am going to SCREAM
06:04 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
06:05 wannabe1987 ponies
06:05 lwq1996 ARE AWESOME :p
06:05 wannabe1987 strange, so far
06:09 Seroster Tasty!
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06:10 lwq1996 yup, anyone ever have horse meat?
06:14 Seroster Yep
06:14 Seroster Fucking awesome.
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06:22 Druidic_Rifleman Damn bronie's...
06:26 wannabe1987 did they disconnect you?
06:50 Seroster Anyway
06:50 Seroster cay
07:03 lwq1996 going to bed
07:03 lwq1996 night
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07:31 Druidic_Rifleman :( flame thrower...
07:31 * masterofmonks rolls up a news paper and looks at Druidic_Rifleman.
07:31 Druidic_Rifleman Hey youtold me to watch a show on how to make em
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08:20 Druidic_Rifleman MMMMM
08:20 Druidic_Rifleman my favorite dish to start a day
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08:44 Hackbat Hi peoples
08:46 Druidic_Rifleman hey
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08:49 ryan__ hi
08:52 Hackbat dwarf fortress is tireing
08:59 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkDpEbv0Q4
08:59 BotSteve Title: SNARC - YouTube
09:09 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell ynos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkDpEbv0Q4
09:09 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
09:09 BotSteve Title: SNARC First Prototype and Proof of Concept - YouTube
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09:27 HighMan Morning
10:06 Druidic_Rifleman derp day will be derp
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11:36 Experimentonomen plupp
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12:06 * Experimentonomen is bored so hes going for a walk
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13:18 Sgt_Lemming http://124.170.109.65:8080 <--- more proof SNARC works :-D
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13:41 Experimentonomen back from walk
13:49 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen http://124.170.109.65:8080
13:49 Sgt_Lemming arduino ethernet example sketch running on the SNARC board
13:55 Experimentonomen hm
13:56 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/antarcticaweather/ lol.
13:56 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
13:56 BotSteve At 11:08Z, roadran422 asked me to tell seroster that tehdark45 wants to butt rape you.
13:56 BotSteve Title: Crazy Antarctica Condition 1 weather. [VIDEO]
13:56 Seroster BotSteve, tell tehdark45 I have a very tight ass, and I am practically unrapeable.
13:56 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when tehdark45 is around.
13:57 Experimentonomen o_OO_oo_OO_o
14:03 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, u know that doesent say  anything to me cuz im a complete total NOOB :P
14:04 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, you've seen/played with an arduino before?
14:04 Experimentonomen i've seen them but i dunno how to use them
14:05 Sgt_Lemming this board basically behaves the same, that's reading the analog pins, and displaying the values via ethernet
14:05 Experimentonomen hm
14:05 Sgt_Lemming all the pins except pin 0 are connected to nothing atm, so they are just reading background noise
14:06 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/marioproposal/
14:06 BotSteve Title: Mario marriage proposal. [VIDEO]
14:14 * angy tar pa Serosters kuk
14:16 Experimentonomen SNUSKHUMMER!!!!!!!!!
14:16 Experimentonomen :P
14:19 * Experimentonomen spelar eddie meduzas snopplåtar för angy :P
14:26 lwq1996 yay!!! Speaker is here today
14:39 Druidic_Rifleman i am bored
14:40 Sgt_Lemming note to self, paying attention whil soldering is a good idea!
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14:41 angy morning lovely islander
14:42 tlockley morning angy
14:42 Sgt_Lemming just managed to burn the back of one finger with the soldering iron >_<
14:44 tlockley youch
14:44 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, i've done that too, was reaching to the back of bench for a part when i heard "sssSSSSSSSSS" as i laid my arm right onto a 110W soldering iron
14:44 egrsteve ouch and hello
14:44 Experimentonomen g'day egrsteve
14:44 angy .cookie egrsteve
14:44 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
14:46 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, I have the remains of a burn on the other arm from that
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14:50 Experimentonomen Druidic_Rifleman, your always bored :P
14:51 Talos452 sup folks?
14:51 Druidic_Rifleman ueaj....
14:51 Experimentonomen g'day Talos452
14:51 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah
14:51 Druidic_Rifleman have you seen where i live
14:51 Druidic_Rifleman There is more entertainment then butfuck idaho
14:51 Druidic_Rifleman In not then*
14:52 Talos452 how goes things today?
14:52 Talos452 i've been slack getting this mac book setup.   I think X-Chat was the only thing missing
14:53 Experimentonomen im thinking about prototyping a class D amplifier capable over over 50A output current, actually the fets themselves would allow over 100A continous if i had the psu
14:53 Talos452 nice!
14:54 egrsteve sounds like a fun project
14:56 Experimentonomen using a MAX913 comparator, a CD4081 quad and gate for the deadtime generator and some HCPL3120's or a IR2110 for the gate drive
14:56 egrsteve that should do the trick
15:01 Experimentonomen i have twelve STE47N50's
15:01 Experimentonomen http://www.datasheetarchive.com/dl/Datasheets-17/DSA-331781.pdf
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15:11 Experimentonomen it wont really be a practical amplifier though,  PWM amplifiers sound like crap, but it could be a bit of fun to build one that with the right psu could do over 18kW in bridge mode with the voltages i have available on my transformers
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15:20 VictrolaWax Good Morning
15:20 masterofmonks Morning VictrolaWax
15:21 Cprossu morning to you too
15:21 masterofmonks What an interesting name.
15:21 VictrolaWax thanks
15:22 VictrolaWax i hope yall weekend was good
15:23 Experimentonomen g'day old radio ;)
15:23 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: wrong, phonograph :P
15:24 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Talking_Machine_Company#The_Victrola
15:24 BotSteve Title: Victor Talking Machine Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
15:25 * egrsteve tosses on a 33 and cranks it up to 96
15:25 egrsteve chipmunks for all
15:25 SparkyProjects egrsteve: it would play too fast, i thing more like a 78
15:25 SparkyProjects Victrola wax would refer to the wax disc i think
15:26 SparkyProjects haha yeah
15:26 egrsteve true 78 would be about right for that
15:26 egrsteve and wax disc or drum?
15:26 VictrolaWax yes
15:26 * SparkyProjects owns a 78 player and discs
15:27 * Cprossu thinks about the old cheap 45's which had their centers cut out for cheap resale.... egrsteve you know those foam disc launchers?
15:27 egrsteve oh dear
15:27 VictrolaWax no for jukeboxes
15:27 Cprossu SparkyProjects: got a sapphire needle for that sucker?
15:27 egrsteve you might kill someone
15:27 SparkyProjects Centres were cut out for use in jukeboxes, though we used to remove the centres for the disco we ran,
15:28 Cprossu some of the 78's are rather fragile.
15:28 VictrolaWax yes
15:28 SparkyProjects I just have steel needles
15:28 VictrolaWax me too
15:29 Cprossu IIRC, if you care about the record and it's a 78, get a sapphire needle.
15:29 Cprossu it could be an old wifes' tale though
15:30 Experimentonomen .cookie Cprossu
15:30 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
15:30 SparkyProjects If i wanted to play the 78's, i would probably use the Lenco deck, my steel needles need replacing
15:30 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JYnoouIVI <-- me likes vinyl :P
15:30 BotSteve Title: Some loud music on vinyl - YouTube
15:31 * SparkyProjects has about 2000 vinyl 45's
15:32 VictrolaWax wows
15:32 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkDpEbv0Q4
15:32 BotSteve Title: SNARC First Prototype and Proof of Concept - YouTube
15:33 * SparkyProjects has no idea what SNARC is :P
15:33 Sgt_Lemming click the link on the page
15:35 SparkyProjects ah, ok, so basically an access control reader ?
15:35 Cprossu speaking of phonographs and such, I saw a really really beat up dual electronic direct drive turntable at a goodwill
15:35 Cprossu it needed too much help for me to take it on though
15:36 Cprossu was a dual 721 iirc
15:36 Experimentonomen oki
15:37 Cprossu missing it's dust cover, tone arm was bent, cartridge removed, neon light was flickering, and there was something a bit wonky with the mechanism in general
15:38 Cprossu I probably shoulda picked it up, but it really needed a lot of work
15:38 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, with network interface and GPIO pins
15:39 SparkyProjects If the neon was just indicating power, they often do that, i have one on my 10 way power board that actually goes off and on randomly
15:39 Experimentonomen Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDNewUCC3M
15:39 BotSteve Title: Lenco L-76 turntable - YouTube
15:39 Cprossu the neon was for so you could see if it was going the proper speed SparkyProjects
15:39 Cprossu http://www.enjoyaudio.com/zbxe/files/attach/images/1126934/622/608/001/dual%20721.jpg
15:39 SparkyProjects The access control readers at work were networkable too
15:40 SparkyProjects they were HID
15:40 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I hear X-Files in there lol
15:40 Cprossu yep.
15:41 SparkyProjects ah, that's different Cprossu
15:41 Experimentonomen Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOmte-wvBuQ
15:41 Experimentonomen :P
15:41 BotSteve Title: 666 - I'm your Nightmare 12" - YouTube
15:42 Cprossu SparkyProjects: I shoulda still picked it up though... it looked like a damn nice turntable
15:42 Cprossu don't you agree?
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15:43 SparkyProjects Actually, that neon should be flickering at mains freq, that way you look at the strobe ring and set the speed
15:43 JA12 shouldn't that be "I'm your 12" nightmare"
15:43 Cprossu SparkyProjects: it was blink....flickerflicker....blink...flicker lol
15:43 SparkyProjects and yeah, i think i would have picked it up if i had a use for it (but i don't)
15:43 SparkyProjects the neon could be replaced easily
15:44 Cprossu the tonearm and the cartridge though
15:44 Cprossu would be a rather expensive proposition
15:44 Cprossu as would the dustcover
15:45 SparkyProjects possibly, depends on the make, and whether you would add value by doing the repairs
15:46 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Dual-CS-721-Turntable-/251021808147?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&amp;hash=item3a7210d213
15:46 BotSteve Title: Vintage Dual CS 721 Turntable | eBay
15:46 Cprossu ^ interesting
15:46 SparkyProjects O.O
15:47 Cprossu why on earth does that guy want so much for it lol
15:48 SparkyProjects Seems my GL75 is valuable too http://www.ebay.com/itm/Goldring-Lenco-GL75-Superb-Development-Horizoltal-Ball-Brace-Bearings-/200729410204?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&amp;hash=item2ebc67ba9c
15:48 BotSteve Title: Goldring Lenco GL75 Superb Development with Horizoltal Ball Brace Bearings. | eBay
15:49 * Experimentonomen steals it
15:49 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Philips-Model-202-Turntable-NICE-WORKING-/180714254071?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&amp;hash=item2a1368aef7
15:49 BotSteve Title: eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
15:49 Cprossu REALLY?!
15:49 Cprossu this is a cheapo turntable
15:49 Cprossu (I have one)
15:51 SparkyProjects http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garrard-Model-SP-25-MK-III-turntable-Vintage-Garrard-/120868357192?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&amp;hash=item1c2450c448
15:51 SparkyProjects I have 2 of those in my disco decks
15:51 BotSteve Title: Garrard Model SP 25 MK III turntable Vintage Garrard | eBay
15:51 Cprossu gerrard are nice
15:51 Cprossu I don't know where I put mine
15:51 Cprossu *garrard
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15:51 SparkyProjects And they said vinyl was outdated :P
15:51 SparkyProjects Though it is making a comeback
15:52 Experimentonomen vinyl is fun
15:52 SparkyProjects That one is the markIII, i have a mkiV too
15:52 JA12 it's not outdated in the dj circles
15:52 Sgt_Lemming vinyl is making a comeback, and it's all because of clueless lusers
15:53 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Garrard-Synchro-Lab-65B-SL65B-Turntable-Working-Needs-Adjusting-Repair-/220975666209?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&amp;hash=item33732d1421
15:53 BotSteve Title: Vintage Garrard Synchro Lab 65B SL65B Turntable Working Needs Adjusting Repair ? | eBay
15:53 Cprossu ^ pretty sure this is the one I got
15:54 JA12 Sgt_Lemming ?
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15:55 Sgt_Lemming Vinyl doesn't provide better sound quality than CD or high quality digital audio, so basically it's people buying it for either nostalgia, or some misbegotten belief that vinyl provides a better sound
15:55 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: not necessarily
15:55 Cprossu some CD's were very shittily mastered
15:56 SparkyProjects There was a report the other day that students who didn't own a player were buying vinyl albums for the artwork
15:56 Experimentonomen sometimes the cd is shittily mastered just to promote the vinyl version
15:56 Cprossu Experimentonomen: not the stuff I listen to
15:57 Sgt_Lemming that has nothing to do with the medium, and everything to do with the person mastering it
15:57 SparkyProjects Also, some people don't want the crisp digital experience, they love the occasional crackle
15:57 Experimentonomen and some artists only release their music on vinyl
15:57 Cprossu the stuff I listen to was usually thrown around, dug up, thrown to CD as quickly as possible...
15:57 Cprossu to make money with the cd craze
15:58 Cprossu no care taken at all
15:58 Experimentonomen Cprossu, dont forget the loudness war, u cant do that with vinyl
15:58 Cprossu I've personally recorded some stuff on CD myself off of a record to avoid playing the terrible copies.
15:59 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, yes you can
15:59 Cprossu Experimentonomen: it's not a war anymore when their production of it is clipping from the CD
15:59 Cprossu which is irritating
16:00 Cprossu people like the 'vintage' tube sound because tubes overload in a funny way and provide strange acoustics though.
16:00 Cprossu (and the smell of burning dust on tubes is a warm and nice feeling)
16:01 Experimentonomen tubes doesent sound as harch when clipping as solid stgate amps do
16:01 Cprossu yeah you run out on a transistor/solid state and that's it, it's out.
16:01 Cprossu you have a bit more headroom on the tube, and you get weird noises to boot!
16:01 Sgt_Lemming yes, but when you are clipping an amp, you're doing something wrong anyway
16:01 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: welcome to america
16:02 Sgt_Lemming no, welcome to audiophoolia
16:02 Cprossu =P
16:02 JA12 I prefer tube amp when I listen to my best of vuvuzela vinyl
16:02 Sgt_Lemming lol
16:02 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, when watching movies i regularly clip my 200+ watt subwoofer amp
16:02 Cprossu hahahahah
16:02 SparkyProjects It was often said that solid state clipped, but tubes could be overdriven
16:02 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, again, that's pointless
16:03 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, well my sub ainjt optimally placed, and it isent very efficien
16:03 Sgt_Lemming so, build a better amp for it
16:03 Experimentonomen so it takes alot of power to make barely any noise at all
16:04 Experimentonomen its not the amp beeing underpowered, i dont have any psu transformers powerful enough
16:04 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu http://124.170.109.65:8080 <--- board works :-D
16:05 Experimentonomen 500VA is the biggest trafo i have, apart from a 1500VA one that needs a secondary on it
16:05 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: SWEET!
16:05 Cprossu xD
16:05 Sgt_Lemming I have a 24KVA one Experimentonomen :-P
16:05 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSkthJct3w
16:06 BotSteve Title: SNARC Network Test - YouTube
16:06 egrsteve .radar
16:06 BotSteve egrsteve: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
16:07 egrsteve I hope it doesn't miss us
16:07 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkDpEbv0Q4 <--- another video of it
16:07 BotSteve Title: SNARC First Prototype and Proof of Concept - YouTube
16:07 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, you should check out those videos as well
16:07 egrsteve what are they of?
16:07 Sgt_Lemming the board I have been working on
16:08 Sgt_Lemming it has a name now, SNARC :-D
16:08 Cprossu http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&amp;rid=mkx&amp;loop=yes
16:08 Cprossu wow.
16:08 egrsteve it's a atmel 324 based?
16:09 BotSteve Title: NWS radar image loop of Composite Reflectivity from Milwaukee, WI
16:09 Sgt_Lemming 328
16:09 Cprossu looks damn good Sgt_Lemming
16:09 Cprossu who the hell disliked you?
16:09 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that's what I'd like to know :-P
16:09 egrsteve wow, your focus is LOUD
16:09 Sgt_Lemming it's an SLR
16:09 egrsteve ah ok
16:10 egrsteve and thats why people use manual focus/external mics on SLRs
16:10 Sgt_Lemming not really designed with video in mind, it's that or my mobile phone :-P
16:10 egrsteve some SLRs do video well, just not audio
16:11 Experimentonomen gotta love that aussie accent
16:11 Sgt_Lemming the video's from this are awesome video quality as you can see, just the lack of decent autofocus sucks
16:11 egrsteve then use manual mode
16:11 Sgt_Lemming effort++
16:12 Cprossu what kinda camera is it?
16:12 Sgt_Lemming kinda hard to use the camera one handed, and do manual focus
16:12 Sgt_Lemming Canon 600D
16:12 Cprossu hint: numbers in FT/Meters :D
16:12 Cprossu but yeah that autofocus is rather loud
16:12 Cprossu I don't think my nikon's is that loud but it also doesn't shoot video
16:13 Sgt_Lemming http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=1593 <--- also, just cause I know you guys will want one
16:13 BotSteve Title: AT8586 2-in-1 SMD Hot Air Rework Station Soldering Station_Crystal Clock Oscillator_Discrete Components_Discrete Components, IC chips_Sure Electronics' Webstore
16:13 egrsteve thats a little one, hand under the lens with the back of your palm under the body
16:13 Sgt_Lemming I'll pass
16:18 wannabe1987 its steve!
16:18 Cprossu it's a kelly!
16:18 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
16:18 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a white chocolate cranberry cookie!
16:18 wannabe1987 its a cpro!
16:18 Cprossu holy crap!
16:19 wannabe1987 NO WAY!
16:19 wannabe1987 hi :)
16:19 wannabe1987 its also a zozo, you lurker
16:20 Zozo-Laptop its called stalker
16:20 wannabe1987 same dif,
16:20 wannabe1987 or intense research
16:20 Sgt_Lemming anyone know where ynos has been last couple of days?
16:21 Zozo-Laptop drinking
16:21 Sgt_Lemming lol
16:21 Zozo-Laptop most likely
16:21 Experimentonomen g'day zozo
16:21 Zozo-Laptop yo
16:22 Electricguy yayy! just got my FM transmitter from DX :)
16:22 Experimentonomen hm bleh im kinda suprised dustbinhome.se havent shipped my shit yet :/
16:22 Electricguy it can commmunicate with serial comm too
16:22 Electricguy that's weird
16:23 Electricguy they use to ship the day after you put your order
16:23 Experimentonomen the order was put in on friday around closing time
16:23 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: You're right, I do want one
16:23 Experimentonomen and status still sez "order"
16:23 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:23 Experimentonomen though the gfx card is "restnoterat"
16:24 Electricguy have you got any mail that confirms your payment?
16:24 Sgt_Lemming ynos is getting one of this first batch Monkeh,
16:24 Experimentonomen yes
16:24 Electricguy oki
16:24 Sgt_Lemming you can get one of the 2nd batch perhaps
16:24 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I trust he's got a real man supply to connect it to?
16:24 Sgt_Lemming I'd imagine so
16:25 Monkeh What're they like on shipping?
16:25 VictrolaWax hay, yNos
16:25 Sgt_Lemming no idea yet, as I haven't shipped any
16:25 wannabe1987 off to the lab, you ready zozo?
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16:26 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That's you?
16:26 Sgt_Lemming yup
16:26 Sgt_Lemming designed and built by me
16:27 Sgt_Lemming note the youtube user name Monkeh?
16:27 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Uh, we are talking aboutthe Atten station, right?
16:27 Sgt_Lemming no
16:27 Monkeh ...
16:27 Sgt_Lemming the RFID board
16:27 Monkeh Where's my cluebat?
16:27 Monkeh I was talking about the rework station.
16:28 Monkeh Y'know, the last thing you said
16:28 Sgt_Lemming kk
16:28 Monkeh Because that's a seriously nice price and I could do with one
16:30 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: So have you dealt with them before?
16:30 Sgt_Lemming no
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16:33 Experimentonomen bbiab
16:33 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Not so good with shipping :{
16:33 Monkeh Still not bad, though.
16:34 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:34 Sgt_Lemming organise a group buy with friends perhaps?
16:34 Monkeh But ordinary ebay prices are exactly the same.
16:34 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have lots of friends, none of them live near me.
16:34 Monkeh This is the dead end of nowhere as far as technology goes
16:34 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:35 Monkeh I think I can safely say that's going on my shopping list, though. Didn't know they did one with an iron attached.
16:36 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:36 Monkeh They only recently updated their site with the 858
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16:41 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh http://www.attenelectronics.com/productBody.aspx?id=145&amp;bid=14&amp;sid=49 <--- we have that exact station at HSBNE
16:41 BotSteve Title: mobile phone bga rework station
16:41 Sgt_Lemming the switch layout is slightly different, but every other detail is the same
16:41 Monkeh Neat
16:45 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: The 8586 looks to be essentially identical except you can only (I assume) operate one tool at a time
16:46 Sgt_Lemming nope, one of the guys at HSBNE has one, the temp dial sets the temp for both tools, and both tools can run simultaneously
16:46 Monkeh Oh neat.
16:46 Monkeh Probably wouldn't want both at the same temperature most of the time
16:46 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh http://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?id=362320
16:47 Monkeh But at least you can stop the iron from cooling off entirely while doing lower temp work with the air
16:47 BotSteve Title: Velleman nv
16:47 Monkeh That's.. interesting
16:47 Sgt_Lemming http://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?id=381248
16:47 BotSteve Title: Velleman nv
16:48 Monkeh And Velleman's website sucks donkey cock
16:48 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes it does
16:48 Monkeh It can't handle the fact that there are multiple requests.
16:49 Monkeh God forbid I be loading two thumbnails at once
16:49 Monkeh What sort of idiot do these companies hire to run their servers?
16:49 Monkeh The second one seems like a bit of a toy to me
16:50 Monkeh The first one is probably pretty handy though
16:50 Talos452 so my cats suck
16:50 Talos452 they broke the A key off my Macbook
16:50 Seroster Lol
16:51 Talos452 tore the membrane
16:51 Seroster You got a macbook, suit yourself.
16:51 Sgt_Lemming anyways, sleep time for me, night all
16:51 Monkeh I might actually see if that first unit is reasonably priced
16:51 Seroster They SAVED YOU from a piece of mac.
16:51 Seroster Err. crao
16:51 Sgt_Lemming is there a difference?
16:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Between the two?
16:52 Sgt_Lemming between a piece of crap and a macbook
16:52 Monkeh Sure there is
16:52 Monkeh You can clean the crap off.
16:53 Sgt_Lemming night!
16:53 Monkeh Which, unfortunately, is something I've been doing today :/
16:54 Experimentonomen the stuff velleman sells suck horse penis as well :P
16:54 Experimentonomen extremely low quality chinaripoff shit
16:55 Monkeh Some of it's okay to work with.
16:56 Talos452 Well i fixed it with spare keyboard parts
16:56 Talos452 lol
16:56 Talos452 aaaaaaaaand it was not new so its fine
16:56 Monkeh Experimentonomen: I actually have one of these: http://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?id=346033
16:56 Monkeh It works fine.
16:56 BotSteve Title: Velleman nv
16:56 Monkeh .. I intend to add a lot of weight to the damn thing, though
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17:01 Cprossu Guardianzozo you at the lab?
17:02 Monkeh Cprossu: I'd say he is.
17:03 Experimentonomen Cprossu, zozo lives at the lab ;)
17:06 Experimentonomen Cprossu, how far away from the lab do u live ?
17:07 GGR Hey guys- we're broadcasting LIVE from The GGR for Mitchell McCoy Today... it's a new tech-talk radio show. Please join us. We're also looking for feedback! http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
17:07 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
17:13 Cprossu GGR: I'll be there in a few days (lol) if all else fails.
17:13 GGR Aren't you right down the hall? -Mitch
17:14 Cprossu GGR: I am in Arizona.
17:15 GGR Oh, okay! Haha, I saw the wrong person walking down the hall! Haha... Good to know!! We're getting things back together slowly but it's happening! -Mitch
17:17 Experimentonomen Cprossu, do u ever play on any other mc servers than ur own ?
17:17 Cprossu nope.
17:17 Experimentonomen oki
17:18 Cprossu In fact the only reason I borrowed a friends' mc accound was to rebuild djrock9000's lab map
17:18 Cprossu I don't know if you got to see it at all Experimentonomen
17:18 Experimentonomen i was on your server once, running around trying to find the lab but without success
17:19 Cprossu you sure it was the right one?
17:19 Experimentonomen yes
17:19 Cprossu 72.222.196.252:26654
17:19 Cprossu let me check
17:19 Cprossu *25564
17:19 Cprossu sorry
17:20 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/tattooseyes/ Damn.
17:20 BotSteve Title: Prison convict tattoos the whites of his eyes. [VIDEO]
17:21 Cprossu 72.222.196.252:25564
17:21 Cprossu Experimentonomen: my bad x 3 or 4
17:21 Cprossu ^ this is the address
17:21 Cprossu get innn!
17:29 GGR What's the weather like where you live?
17:30 Seroster FUCKING YANKEES! http://www.wimp.com/allzeroes/
17:30 BotSteve Title: Did you know the launch code for the US strategic nuclear arsenal was all zeroes until 1977? [VIDEO]
17:31 TGG-ZozoAway im here now
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17:38 mashpriborintorg hiya back from a hard day of work
17:39 GGR About to do weather... let me know what the weather is like where you are and I'll include it in with the weather forecasts! Thanks all-- Mitch
17:42 Experimentonomen ig'evenin mash
17:42 mashpriborintorg hi
17:42 Experimentonomen mashbash
17:42 mashpriborintorg anybody knows what's this fraud thing Chris speaks about in his fb ?
17:43 Experimentonomen the zerosmoke bs
17:43 mashpriborintorg what do thay want ?
17:43 Cprossu mashpriborintorg: Zero Smoke 'magnets' that stop you smoking when you pinch your ear with them
17:43 SparkyProjects .bs should be a domain extension :D
17:44 mashpriborintorg they claim their stuff works actually ?
18:01 Seroster Yeah they do
18:02 Seroster mashpriborintorg, Chris got 150pallets of pseudoscience bullshit from a sponsor. The boxes had taken up space in a warehouse for years since the zerosmoke company died.
18:03 Seroster It is all being recycled, to the sponsors and the enviroments delight, and tgg will keep the magnets for actual science.
18:03 Cprossu ^ The company that made the packaging/packed it got stuck with that company when zs caved
18:03 Cprossu apparently
18:03 Seroster Aye.
18:03 Cprossu a nice solution for a problem which shouldn't exist.
18:04 mashpriborintorg yeah, ok for that, so where's the problem Chris is speaking of
18:05 Cprossu mashpriborintorg: that many people were frauded with it?
18:05 Cprossu I don't have FB so I couldn't interpret for you
18:05 Seroster That he got 150cubic meters of paper crap?
18:06 mashpriborintorg okv probably
18:06 Seroster Do you mean "My morning consists of angry Italians, a massive international case of fraud, mountains of bullshit, and Don King. I love my job! :)"
18:06 mashpriborintorg zs still has and active website, and fake zs stuff from China is Available on ebay right now :p
18:06 mashpriborintorg yeah
18:07 Seroster Yeah, no shit.
18:07 mashpriborintorg fake fake product... does it makes a powerfake or a squared fake ?
18:08 Seroster People are desperate to kick the cancersticks, if you tell people they can quit smoking by swallowing whole pine cones (they're natural!) people will try it.  Now you just gotta tell them that they need your special bio-pinecones.
18:08 mashpriborintorg placebo effect may help some people  tho
18:09 Seroster Sure, go grab a pine cone.
18:11 mashpriborintorg or get the most powerfull hard drive magnets and pinch you ears with them... pain will make you forget about cigarettes....
18:13 Seroster Have you ever smoked?
18:13 mashpriborintorg never of my life
18:14 Experimentonomen i pinchjed the skin between my fingers with hdd magnets once, once i got them off, the pain was shooting halfway up my arm :/
18:16 Seroster My grandmother was a packaday smoker, and then she got dementia. After a while she forgot to go to the bathroom, then she forgot to eat, a week later she forgot to smoke, and the day after that she forgot to breathe and died.  THAT is the addiction of smoking.
18:17 Electricguy i didn't find any multi turn trimpot for my U reg.... so i took a panel mount multi tunrn pot and a locking chuck instead :P http://i.imgur.com/utY0y.jpg
18:17 masterofmonks It is a very difficult thing to stop smoking, unless your head is in exactly the right place.
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18:17 Seroster Or it turns to goo. That worked too. =)
18:19 masterofmonks When I quit smoking, basically one day I suddenly didn't have any more desire for niccotine, and I just sat the brand new pack down and that was it.
18:19 masterofmonks Had it been a day earlier it likely wouldn't have happened that way.
18:20 Seroster To quit smoke you need determination.
18:21 Seroster Btw, This video captures the essence of thegeekgroup. http://www.wimp.com/movebarn/
18:21 BotSteve Title: 344 people lift and move a barn. [VIDEO]
18:21 masterofmonks And you can't exactly force someone to quit smoking.
18:22 masterofmonks You may stop the act of smoking for a time, but in the person's head they are still a smoker.
18:24 VictrolaWax sighing off, i will be back
18:25 Seroster cya VictrolaWax
18:26 Experimentonomen burk
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18:30 mashpriborintorg the handle for my window store did remain in my hands... the bearing is all worn out....
18:30 mashpriborintorg the technical words for it are: a piece of shit
18:30 Experimentonomen :P
18:31 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, i am a piece of shit :P
18:31 Electricguy LOL! http://www.quiterly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Normal-Alarm-Clock-vs-My-Alarm-Clock.jpg
18:32 mashpriborintorg filled the gap with some duct tape, i'll see how many time it will hold the use
18:33 Seroster Tchaikovsky stravaganza!
18:33 Seroster I know the feelin electric
18:35 Seroster That's one of my favourite hobbies, randomly proclaiming "What would Tchaikovsky do?!
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18:41 * Experimentonomen wonders wut kinda games a mashpriborintorg plays
18:50 Experimentonomen *YAAAAAAWN* im so tired its not even funny :/
18:51 mashpriborintorg I woke up at 5am this morning...
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18:54 Chipguy evening
18:54 Electricguy evening chippeh!
18:56 GGR I'm preparing for my show tomorrow on the air... as some of you know The GGR is in the process of changing the format to more "GEEK". So, Mitchell McCoy Today has switched to a technology/science/news broadcast. Is there anything that I should talk about tomorrow that is science/technology related? -Mitch
18:58 Experimentonomen g'evenin Chipguy
19:00 Electricguy i'm REALLY thinking of buying one of these... :P http://www.dealextreme.com/p/vmr6700-rf-power-amplifier-module-47812
19:00 BotSteve Title: VMR6700 RF Power Amplifier Module - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
19:00 Electricguy as i got the transmitter today.. :P
19:00 Electricguy but it *only* goes about 100 meters... :P
19:12 Electricguy woops... i just bought a RF power module...
19:12 Experimentonomen Electricguy, well at 5-50 nanowatts, thats all u get :P
19:13 Electricguy the transmitter itself gives around 6mw :)
19:13 Electricguy mW*
19:13 Electricguy it's this one http://www.dealextreme.com/p/vmr6512-hi-fi-fm-transmitter-diy-evaluation-module-evm-board-47811
19:13 BotSteve Title: VMR6512 Hi-Fi FM Transmitter DIY Evaluation Module (EVM) Board (Random Color) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
19:14 Electricguy believe it or not.. it sounds better than the local broadcast stations... lol
19:14 Experimentonomen is that thing legal without a license ?
19:14 Electricguy nope.
19:14 Electricguy but it's classed as lab material.. not a commercial radio transmitter
19:14 Experimentonomen hm
19:15 Electricguy hole in the law right there... XD
19:15 Experimentonomen i thought 5-50nW was max allowed without a license no matter what
19:15 Electricguy if it's a transmitter, yes
19:15 Experimentonomen hm
19:15 Electricguy unless it's license free radio
19:16 * Experimentonomen is so confused
19:16 Seroster When I saw 5-5***    I instantly thought to myself "HA! 5-56! AWESOME!"
19:16 Electricguy this is a lab module. not a transmitter... :P
19:16 Electricguy sero, damn redneck..
19:18 Seroster What, Nuthin wrong with 55-6...
19:22 Chipguy ooo rf power
19:23 Electricguy :P
19:23 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXzyLjeV79I
19:23 BotSteve Title: CRC 5-56 - CM - YouTube
19:23 Chipguy u could build that youself
19:23 Chipguy with even more power
19:23 Electricguy not worth it.. lol :P
19:23 Electricguy 100mW is enough as a start :)
19:23 Chipguy oh 8.72
19:24 Chipguy ok not worth it
19:24 Chipguy thats silly cheap
19:24 Electricguy and it's TOTALLY not worth to build a transmitter with compressor, PLL and serial comm from scratch when you can buy one for 16 bucks... :P
19:24 Electricguy that sounds BETTER than the local stations... XD
19:24 Chipguy WANT :P
19:25 Chipguy <-- drools
19:25 Electricguy then just buy one of these.... :P http://www.dealextreme.com/p/vmr6512-hi-fi-fm-transmitter-diy-evaluation-module-evm-board-47811
19:25 BotSteve Title: VMR6512 Hi-Fi FM Transmitter DIY Evaluation Module (EVM) Board (Random Color) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
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19:25 egrsteve morning all
19:25 Electricguy 'lo steve! :)
19:26 Electricguy Chipguy, here is the datasheet for the transmitter module http://www.voti.nl/docs/VMR6512.pdf
19:26 Chipguy woah
19:26 Electricguy it can take digital audio in too
19:27 * egrsteve is hungry
19:27 Chipguy ahh
19:28 Chipguy and rxd txd is for controlling it huh
19:28 Chipguy thats awesome
19:28 Electricguy myeah
19:28 Electricguy you can run it stand alone too
19:28 Electricguy only 2 buttons are enough to set the freq
19:29 Chipguy uhuh
19:29 Chipguy cool
19:29 Chipguy want
19:29 Electricguy yeah
19:29 Chipguy to play with ehh
19:29 Electricguy and the RF power module.. just RF in, power in and lots of RF out :P
19:29 Seroster '-'
19:30 Electricguy i just HAPPENED top hook it to my antenna on the roof... XD
19:30 Chipguy heh
19:31 Seroster '-'
19:31 * egrsteve just broke a spoon
19:32 Seroster electricguy, I got 23 magnetrons on my radiator, pointed at me.
19:32 Electricguy too bad they are not powered up
19:32 Seroster I have 23mots to power them, at least 23 caps and at least 23 diodes.
19:33 mashpriborintorg and 23 layers of lead to protect yourself :p
19:33 Seroster I just need a 250 amp outlet to plug them into, and then we can party.
19:36 * egrsteve eats to cookies off of 5 oreos, add the stuff to a 6th
19:37 Electricguy nom
19:37 egrsteve dodeca stuffed oreo
19:37 Electricguy i want a teleporter..
19:37 Electricguy and a direct link to dealextreme..
19:37 Seroster Ey electricguy and Experimentonomen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO4f9xyELbY&amp;feature=related  Biltema kan fan ta sin jävla spolarvätsla och dra å helvete!
19:37 BotSteve Title: Så tinar du frusna spolarmunstycken! - YouTube
19:38 Electricguy LOLOLOOL XD
19:38 egrsteve one oreo 1.5" of stuff
19:38 Experimentonomen egrsteve, you are always hungry! :P
19:38 egrsteve i know, and now I have a giant oreo
19:39 egrsteve and it's to pretty to eat
19:40 tlockley untill you taste it
19:40 * Experimentonomen O_o's at egrsteve
19:40 mashpriborintorg they only sell the black and white stuff oreos here, but i believe there are other kinds ?
19:40 egrsteve yes
19:40 egrsteve there is mint (green)
19:40 tlockley my current favorite is the tripple-double
19:40 egrsteve and some seasonal colors
19:40 egrsteve that are just colored cream
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19:41 egrsteve tripple double is good buy 6 double is epic
19:41 egrsteve *but
19:41 tlockley ill have to make one some time
19:41 mashpriborintorg yeah all chemical stuff inside, tho the picture on the package let you believe there's good farm milk in it :p
19:42 egrsteve ya
19:42 astro73|alice it's happened. We've ran out of IP addresses.
19:42 astro73|alice ok, the staff wireless network has ran out of IPs
19:42 egrsteve but isn't that ture of almost anything from a store
19:45 mashpriborintorg beautifull... but expensive... but beautifull yet expensive... damnit http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=150781466925&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
19:45 BotSteve Title: Altimètre Radio Altimeter en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 24-mars-12 13:37:55 Paris)
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19:51 eadthem another tech cut the wire seeing no battery voltage on it
19:51 eadthem its indeed a dry data loop
19:51 eadthem no 48V    or least ATT in KS is
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20:04 * egrsteve eats epic dodeca oreo
20:05 Electricguy OM NOM NOM!
20:05 egrsteve they should sell oreo cream, they could make a fortune
20:05 tonsofpcs hi
20:05 astro73|alice epic oreo?
20:05 egrsteve dodeca stuffed
20:05 Electricguy hi hi tonsofpcs
20:06 astro73|alice that's a lot of stuffing
20:06 egrsteve indeed it was
20:06 Electricguy hrmm.... http://ausdroid.net/tag/dodeca-core/
20:06 BotSteve Title: Dodeca-Core | Ausdroid
20:07 * Electricguy kinda sorta want this mouse... http://www.dealextreme.com/p/rapoo-v2-usb-400-3200dpi-optical-gaming-mouse-grey-120cm-118344
20:07 BotSteve Title: Rapoo V2 USB 400~3200DPI Optical Gaming Mouse - Grey(120CM) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
20:07 Electricguy only one of reasonable price i could find with more than 2 extra buttons... XD
20:07 * tonsofpcs needs to get a new tv for his bedroom... 25-37"  ~300
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20:10 wannabe-work ...
20:10 masterofmonks Morning wannabe-work
20:11 TGG-Zozo yo
20:11 wannabe-work hi mom, zozo :)
20:11 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
20:11 * lwq1996 stops
20:11 lwq1996 did you get shit on?
20:11 lwq1996 or pissed on
20:12 wannabe-work not yet!
20:12 egrsteve hello
20:12 * lwq1996 returns to hugging wannabe
20:12 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
20:13 * wannabe-work loves the fact that that didn't ding me on freenode :P
20:14 * Experimentonomen looks @ egrsteve
20:15 wannabe-work so.....works going pretty well so far, i think that means it will fall apart later.....eh
20:16 wannabe-work and I FORGOT MY PHONE.  its not on me, my car, or my stuff......it must still be at jeffs :/
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20:18 wannabe-work Why hasn't anyone invented a laptop screen that is legible in sunlight yet?
20:19 astro73|alice it's called e-ink
20:19 Electricguy there are screens that can work pretty darn well in sunlight
20:19 masterofmonks But it's kinda slow to refresh.
20:19 Electricguy they got a reflective backing that reflects the sunlight to use that as backlight too... nnot 100% sure how it works though
20:20 Electricguy these screens are popular to put in EeePC's
20:21 * Experimentonomen looks @ Chipguy
20:22 mashpriborintorg some "vintage" sony digicams had a light guide, allowing to use sunlight instead of cfl backlight, for extended battery life
20:24 mashpriborintorg now the led backlights and nimh batteries are much more efficient tho, so doing so is not needed anymore
20:24 Electricguy i haven't seen NiMh cells in cameras and other equipment other than cheap crap screwdrivers in many years :P
20:25 Electricguy even my Toshiba Libtretto from '97 got LiIon cells :P
20:25 Experimentonomen my cheap china ORDRO brand camcorder is still a battery hog, if u leave it on with fresh from the charger battery, its dead as a rock again a hour later :/
20:25 mashpriborintorg yeah, li-ion, nimh, same stuff :p
20:25 Electricguy no :P
20:26 Electricguy they quite a fucking lot different! ;P
20:26 tonsofpcs Electricguy: magic with polarizers :1~
20:26 tonsofpcs that 1~ should be a right paren.....
20:26 Electricguy :P
20:26 mashpriborintorg ost of my vintage camera have nimh, it's why :p
20:27 egrsteve vintage cameras ran lead acid not nimh
20:27 Electricguy this guy is STILL fucking awesome XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDgqEkJ5Ak&amp;list=LLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plpp_video
20:27 Experimentonomen i was kinda impressed that i got 10 hours outta my headphone amp on full blast with 6 seriesed 18650 cells running a 30 watt DC/DC module to make two regulated 15V rails + a 5V that could be used to charge the mp3 player
20:27 BotSteve Title: Human Jukebox 90's Megamix - YouTube
20:28 egrsteve 18650s last a long time
20:28 Electricguy yeah
20:28 Electricguy ok, well... only about an hour on full blast in my flashlights... :P
20:28 Experimentonomen in my laptop the same battery back in 11.1V config lasted like 60 minutes :/
20:28 Chipguy mmmm did someone say 18650 :)
20:28 tonsofpcs egrsteve: lead acid? hah.  Magnesium ftw.
20:29 egrsteve good point, but there is vintage and then there is as old as dirt ;)
20:29 Electricguy there are cells now woth around 4Ah that are as long as 18650's but thicker
20:29 Electricguy with*
20:29 egrsteve so something like a 24650?
20:29 egrsteve as that number is the physical size in mm
20:29 Electricguy 26650
20:30 Electricguy 26650
20:30 egrsteve 18 x 650 mm
20:30 Electricguy bork
20:30 Electricguy http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-rechargeable-3-7v-5000mah-26650-li-ion-batteries-pair-107232
20:30 BotSteve Title: TrustFire 26650 Li-ion Batteries Rechargeable 3.7V "5000mAh" (Pair) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
20:30 Experimentonomen Chipguy: http://imgur.com/a/Y91s5
20:30 BotSteve Title: Headphoeamp - Imgur
20:30 mashpriborintorg huge capacity, but if they die after 10 refills....
20:31 Electricguy why would they? :P
20:31 tonsofpcs poor management circuitry that claims the battery is dead and doesn't even try? [ex: smart ink cartridges]
20:32 mashpriborintorg because they want you to buy new ones :p
20:32 Electricguy the circuitry in my cells work a treat at least :)
20:32 mashpriborintorg yeah shitty planned obsolescence
20:33 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbp_tBCQ3vI
20:33 BotSteve Title: Stereo headphone amplifier - YouTube
20:40 Electricguy balls! i got apple juice in my nose..
20:40 masterofmonks That sounds like fun.
20:40 Electricguy not a good idea to eat apple and sneeze at the same time...
20:41 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, kinda makes u wonder what the point is with having rechargables at all when they program the protection circuitry to claim dead battery after a few cycles just to make u buy new
20:47 IsopropylAlcohol but sandwich
20:47 IsopropylAlcohol tates deliciou
20:47 IsopropylAlcohol s
20:47 IsopropylAlcohol damn  s key
20:48 masterofmonks IsopropylAlcohol, you can use my 12lb hammer to loosen it up if you want.
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20:49 IsopropylAlcohol :D
20:49 egrsteve ya zozo
20:49 IsopropylAlcohol I have a 25lber in my garage
20:49 TGG-Zozo sashi!!!
20:49 IsopropylAlcohol Hey
20:49 TGG-Zozo get jack audio
20:49 * egrsteve is not sashi
20:49 masterofmonks IsopropylAlcohol, yes, but do you swing it one handed?
20:49 egrsteve zozo you get jack figured out then?
20:49 IsopropylAlcohol Easily but not often
20:50 masterofmonks Actually my favorite hammer is my 4lb cross peen.
20:51 IsopropylAlcohol ooh
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20:51 egrsteve TGG-Zozo: do you want a .5" .125" wall fiberglass tube?
20:51 TGG-Zozo not yet but im sure he could also try to figure it out
20:51 IsopropylAlcohol You do smithing or general metalwork?
20:51 TGG-Zozo how long?
20:51 masterofmonks IsopropylAlcohol, smithing.
20:51 egrsteve 8ft, $6.50
20:52 egrsteve I'm putting an order together
20:52 TGG-Zozo that would make a great bow
20:52 egrsteve http://www.dxengineering.com/Products.asp?ID={61D71A90-2CCE-4DF6-A9B0-36A90DDD654B}&SecID=186&DeptID=43
20:52 BotSteve Title: Fiberglass Tubing - 8 ft lengths
20:52 IsopropylAlcohol order for what ite?
20:52 TGG-Zozo but i dont even have 6.50 currently
20:52 egrsteve unless you want something heavier
20:52 * IsopropylAlcohol checks it out]
20:52 egrsteve I'm sure something can be figured out
20:53 TGG-Zozo is the whole thing a telescopic tube? or is that just the kind of tube it is
20:54 egrsteve what it is it's tubes that are sized to nest in each other
20:54 egrsteve each 8ft long
20:54 TGG-Zozo ah
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20:55 HighMan Hello lal
20:55 HighMan *all
20:55 egrsteve hi hi
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20:57 HighMan Hi masterofmonks
20:57 TGG-Zozo do you think .5 is a good size?
20:57 egrsteve probably
20:57 TGG-Zozo or should i go to .75
20:57 egrsteve I will guess .75 will be too stiff
20:58 TGG-Zozo true
20:58 TGG-Zozo .5 would be great then
20:58 egrsteve ok
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20:58 egrsteve now I just need a final # from dave
20:58 HighMan Was there a high voltage weekend? And is paul still there?
20:58 egrsteve yes, and I doubt it
20:59 HighMan Ah ok, what was done? And i'd reckon there is a CB today for yesterday...
21:00 egrsteve idk, I was not there yesterday
21:01 HighMan Ah ok
21:13 egrsteve RIP chat 12:01 3/19/2012
21:16 * masterofmonks casts reanimate dead on the channel.
21:17 TGG-Zozo NECROMANCER!!!
21:17 * The_Necromancer casts life drain on HighMan
21:22 Cprossu (doesn't read the rest of the shit) I prefer the 10lb sledge.
21:22 Cprossu hey TGG-Zozo how goes it?
21:22 TGG-Zozo it goes
21:23 Experimentonomen .cake Cprossu
21:23 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I baked you a peanut butter cup cake!
21:23 IsopropylAlcohol brb, being a dad
21:23 Cprossu nice
21:23 * Cprossu eats the cake and get fat
21:23 Cprossu .cake Experimentonomen
21:23 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you an almond amaretto cream cake!
21:24 Cprossu Experimentonomen: do you have tracking on those packages?
21:24 Experimentonomen Cprossu, i believe dustbin  will ship the stuff tomorrow
21:25 Cprossu Experimentonomen: hrmmm this is going to be weird then.
21:25 Experimentonomen why?
21:25 Cprossu I should probably write your tutorial when I am on the airplane
21:25 Experimentonomen u goin to teh lab ?
21:25 Cprossu how long you think it'll take to get to your place
21:25 Cprossu yep.
21:26 Experimentonomen once shipped i believe i'll have it in about 3 days
21:26 Cprossu I just want to make sure that my little 'readme' covers everything that can go wrong :D
21:26 Cprossu since you don't have a spare computer.
21:26 Experimentonomen i believe Electricguy can asher that as hes bought from dustbin before, but i guess it varies depending on where in the country u live
21:26 Cprossu Do you have a hdd besides the one you are talking to me on now though?
21:27 Cprossu because I would strongly advise you leave this one alone
21:27 Cprossu just in case
21:27 Experimentonomen i have two 2.5" sata drives, one 80GB that i was gonna make C: and one 320GB one thats already partitioned and has stuff on it
21:27 Cprossu ok, cool
21:29 Experimentonomen before installing the new parts, i'll likely nuke this drive im on now and format it as its not my drive and has stuff like my passwords and such on it
21:31 Experimentonomen btw i can already tell u that once u've spent a day at the lab, theres no way ur gonna keep living where u r now :P
21:32 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I already did
21:33 Cprossu twice
21:33 Experimentonomen oh i thought this was ur first trip down to LEst MI
21:33 Cprossu I've spent over a month in one stint, and another week.
21:33 Cprossu this'll be my 3rd
21:34 Cprossu this time I am staying for a longer period of time though.
21:34 Experimentonomen oki
21:40 Experimentonomen LOL ynos have never seen chris do actual work ?
21:40 astro73|alice .seen katemonster
21:40 BotSteve astro73|alice: I last saw Katemonster 72.43 hours ago at 2012-03-16 21:14:23 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 21:40:28 UTC
21:42 HighMan lol
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21:46 HighMan Evening tlockley
21:53 Experimentonomen Cprossu, heres something unusual, flash is popping up these "stopped responding, wanna close?" boxes, and CPU usage is like 0% with occational bursts of like 10% or less
21:54 Experimentonomen i dont think i've ever seen that before
21:54 Cprossu Experimentonomen: quoted directly?
21:54 Cprossu or just flash crashing
21:54 Cprossu in general
21:54 Cprossu flash is a pile of shit, so it's not a big surprise if it's crashing out like that on your hardware
21:55 Experimentonomen usually when flash and browser stops responding, cpu sits at 100% usage and all programs beeing slow and laggy
21:55 Cprossu yep totally 'normal'
21:55 Experimentonomen with hdd chewing constantly, but now its just sitting there doing nothing
21:55 Monkeh Okay, so I just learnt about tin whiskers.
21:55 Cprossu suck don't they Monkeh?
21:55 Monkeh Fascinating. Give us back our lead.
21:56 Cprossu you still get it with lead
21:56 Cprossu just not nearly as bad
21:56 Monkeh Cprossu: Yes, but the effect is drastically reduced.
21:57 Experimentonomen no cpu load, no hdd activity, just a few hundred MB of ram used, could be a sign of hardware failure switching into defcon 2-3 ?
21:57 HighMan .w tin whiskers
21:57 BotSteve "Metal whiskering or Tin whiskers is a phenomenon or fault which occurs in electrical devices." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_whiskers
21:57 Experimentonomen maybe i should keep the new parts in their boxes and just from curiosity see how long this current system keeps running before it calls it quits
21:58 Cprossu Experimentonomen: I think it still has a few defcons in it I think
21:58 Cprossu also if it shorts out and blows your psu
21:58 Cprossu you won't be a happy camper
21:58 Experimentonomen a psu rarely blows up from a short
21:58 Cprossu I've seen it before
21:58 Cprossu I never discount it
21:58 Cprossu esp if it dies on the 5v rail
21:58 Experimentonomen every time i've shorted a pc psu, it has just shut down and required cycling the power to restart
21:59 Cprossu Experimentonomen: that's what is 'supposed' to happen
21:59 Monkeh And one day it'll just shit itself out the fan with an unpleasant small
21:59 Monkeh er, smell
21:59 Monkeh Why can't I type?!
21:59 Cprossu beats me.
21:59 Cprossu but still I do speak the truth.
22:00 Experimentonomen Monkeh, ur not alone, i cant type worth a damn either
22:00 Monkeh Short circuit protection is not designed to be operated repeatedly and is rarely foolproof (especially in electronics)
22:01 Monkeh That applies to you especially, HighMan.
22:01 HighMan ;)
22:01 Experimentonomen but i wonder, if the bulged caps have already had the electrolyte broken down, doesent that mean their already pretty much open circuit and pretty much no longer pose a threat ?
22:01 * HighMan Gets a monkey to short out the psu 10000 times.'
22:01 Cprossu Experimentonomen: nope
22:02 Cprossu remember I said the electrolyte 'broke down'
22:02 Cprossu that is into it's other components, through heating
22:02 HighMan I still need to get a few parts. And to fix that cut in the wire...
22:02 Cprossu the heating is due to resistance between the plates which decreases
22:02 * HighMan Brb going to fix it.
22:02 Cprossu to the point of befoming a short
22:03 Cprossu Monkeh or SparkyProjects1: please let me know if I said that right
22:03 Experimentonomen and what starts the process is the caps not beeing rated for the kinda current ripple their exposed to, no ?
22:04 Cprossu what starts the process is
22:04 Cprossu complicated
22:04 Cprossu ready for it?
22:04 Experimentonomen or simply even beeing operated too close to the max voltage rating
22:04 Cprossu a long time ago a chinese capacitor company was joined by a former rubycon employee who copied/stole their electrolyte formula..
22:04 Cprossu except he got it wrong
22:05 Monkeh Cprossu: I'm not that familiar with what goes on inside shitty caps. :P
22:05 Cprossu as a result the electrolyte broke down forming hydrogen gas
22:05 Cprossu among other things
22:05 Experimentonomen once at my old work when doing pre shipment testing of regulated power supplies, i had a main filter cap getting hot and started peeing on the bench, weird thing is that cap was seeing 24VDC and was rated for like 40VDC and was the only one in the lot that did it
22:06 Cprossu the hydrogen gas would then ignite or form so much pressure that it blew the vents
22:06 Monkeh Usually it just creates pressure and vents.
22:06 Monkeh When it ignites.. that's when the black smoke comes out.
22:06 Cprossu Experimentonomen: was it an electrolytic and was it installed backwards?
22:06 Cprossu (reverse polarity)
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22:06 Experimentonomen i always thought what comes outta venting caps was steam as in evaporated electrolyte mych like water vapor
22:07 Experimentonomen it was correct polarity
22:07 Experimentonomen thats what stumped me
22:07 Cprossu guess it was just defective then
22:07 Cprossu shit happens
22:07 astro73|alice are there any known "distros" or configurations of linux designed to run just one GUI application in full screen?
22:07 Monkeh Faulty parts happen
22:07 Monkeh You got the one in ten thousand one
22:07 Cprossu astro73|alice: http://kiosk.mozdev.org/
22:07 BotSteve Title: GNU/LINUX Kiosk Project
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22:08 Monkeh Experimentonomen: It's broken down electrolyte, which makes hydrogen gas.
22:09 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Which is why they can explode.
22:09 astro73|alice Cprossu: thanks
22:09 Experimentonomen i always thought the explosion was just a miniature steam vessel rupture and not actual combustion type explosion
22:10 Experimentonomen but i guess it makes sense since some caps look like beeing ran through a blender after exploding
22:10 Cprossu if it were a salt-water cap maybe =D
22:10 Monkeh Hydrogen can ignite quite easily at the temperatures involved in those failures
22:10 Monkeh There isn't a lot of it, but it doesn't take much.
22:11 Monkeh If the cap isn't running overly hot it'll just vent
22:11 Experimentonomen though these caps are not even getting warm in operation, unless the inside of the chassi have been at some 60-80deg C for extended time at some point
22:11 Monkeh But if it's stuck in the middle of an unvented PSU (I'm looking at you, cheap LCDs), they can explode quite easily.
22:12 Cprossu all it needs is ~22C to degrade into hydrogen though if the formula was wrong
22:12 Monkeh Cprossu: Isn't that formula just about gone these days?
22:12 Monkeh It's just cheap ones now.
22:13 Cprossu Monkeh: his motherboard's from that era
22:13 Cprossu MSI K7t266pro2
22:13 Monkeh Ah
22:13 Monkeh Assume crap.
22:13 Experimentonomen i wonder what chemicals the electrolyte is made of
22:14 Experimentonomen would be interesting to take dried out but still fully functional lytics, using a syringe to refill electrolyte to rehydrate them and have then last another 30-40 years
22:14 Electricguy heh.. i just found a slang for swollen capacitors..
22:14 Electricguy fat caps.. :P
22:14 Cprossu "2-methyl-1,3-propanediol, ethylene glycol, and an ammonium salt of a straight chain dicarboxylic acid or a branched chain di- or polycarboxylic acid"
22:17 Experimentonomen hm i wonder how a lytic could work if i took one apart, washed out all the remaining electrolyte from the roll with denaturated alcohol and puit the cap back together again with straight engine coolant(ethylene glycol)
22:17 Experimentonomen would*
22:17 Cprossu how the hell would you take a little 'lytic apart?
22:18 Electricguy overvoltage.. :P
22:18 Electricguy then it spools itself out too! :)
22:18 Experimentonomen who said it would be a tiny one, i meant like a main PCU cap in like a audio poweramp and such
22:18 Experimentonomen PSU*
22:18 Cprossu one of the bigger ones might be oil filled
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22:19 Monkeh By the time you've mucked about with that you might as well have gone and washed a few cars to buy new caps
22:19 Experimentonomen then their sold as "oil caps" not as lytics
22:19 Electricguy i popped open a mallory cap the size of about 2 coke cans once. it didn't have any oil :P
22:19 GGR Hey all... I'm leaving for the day. If you guys have anything you want me to talk about tomorrow during Mitchell McCoy Today, please e-mail me: mitchell.mccoy@thegeekgroup.org and I'll try my best to fit it in in the script. I'm back on the air tomorrow at 1 p.m. EST. We have a few things we're talking about including Sony's newest invention: electricity outlets that will charge you for the time used and the $9 billion dolla
22:20 GGR r Sprint contract fall out with LightSquared. Cya all tomorrow. -Mitch
22:20 Experimentonomen and oil filled caps are ususally made like microwav e oven capacitors as in having spade terminals or even wires
22:20 Experimentonomen unless Cprossu meant refilling with oil
22:21 Experimentonomen though with oil, capacitance would go down from maybe 10000µF to maybe 1 mF or less
22:21 Experimentonomen err 1µF*
22:22 Cprossu wow
22:22 Cprossu http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~reese/electrolytics/
22:22 BotSteve Title: Rap on Replacing Electrolytic Capacitors
22:22 Cprossu ^ good stuff for you Experimentonomen
22:23 Cprossu AHHHH
22:23 Cprossu damn
22:23 Cprossu never mind
22:23 Cprossu that's just for 'making it look stock'
22:23 Cprossu not actrually rebuilding
22:23 Cprossu pooo
22:23 Experimentonomen actually refilling electrolyte has never been done
22:23 Electricguy good stuff for all the schmucks at instructables.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA
22:23 BotSteve Title: Just Glue Some Gears On It (And Call It Steampunk) - YouTube
22:27 Cprossu nice Electricguy.
22:27 Electricguy so damn true... :P
22:28 Cprossu http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/unplggd/2008_03_27%20typwriter%20keyboard.jpg
22:28 Cprossu ^ I prefer the stuff that was done well, even if they had to sacrifice a model M for it
22:29 astro73|alice i think that's one of the prettiest model M's ever
22:29 astro73|alice and if you're going to go to all that work, make sure the guts are worth it
22:29 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oo, good idea-- I have a modelM i can use on my iconia
22:29 Cprossu probably my favorite being the dude who attempted a recreation of the brazil computer.
22:30 astro73|alice brazil computer?
22:30 Electricguy Model M's are pretty cool
22:30 Electricguy but fucking horrible to type on XD
22:31 Cprossu ever seen the movie "Brazil" terry gilliam?
22:31 Cprossu Electricguy: no they ain't. =P
22:31 astro73|alice nope
22:31 Electricguy i think they are. lol
22:31 Cprossu logitech's are terrible.
22:31 masterofmonks Brazil was a great movie.
22:31 Electricguy yes
22:31 Cprossu and microsoft's worse
22:31 Electricguy i got a Tt eSports challenger Ultimate kb
22:32 Electricguy it's like a overgrown laptop keyboard :P
22:32 Electricguy got really distinct "clicks" to be a rubber dome board
22:32 Cprossu http://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2007/06/gallery_steampunk/ElectriClerk.jpg
22:33 Cprossu http://static.flickr.com/50/109556460_5362c5f2b5_o.jpg
22:33 Cprossu ^ what he riffed on
22:33 astro73|alice interesting...
22:34 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=YeY1dxlC7Sg#t=392s
22:34 BotSteve Title: Brazil Pt 1 of 14 - YouTube
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22:36 HighMan Don
22:36 HighMan 27 minutes to fix a cut wire... With another head
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23:00 Electricguy bedtime! night all
23:00 astro73|alice FREEEEEEEEEE!!!
23:00 * astro73|alice dashes about like a fool
23:08 eadthem WOW
23:08 eadthem you have no idea how painful it is to not have internet
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23:36 * Experimentonomen epoxies astro73|alice to a chair
23:36 Experimentonomen :P
23:40 Experimentonomen aight im too tired to stay up any longer
23:40 Experimentonomen nite peepz
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23:42 HighMan Hi captainNiobe
23:45 CaptainNiobe g'day HighMan, wassup?
23:45 HighMan Helping my friend with her hw. And you? More Minecraft? xD
23:45 CaptainNiobe what else is new? :P
23:45 * masterofmonks sets mode #thegeekgroup +q HighMan!*@*
23:45 HighMan What the?
23:46 HighMan What the heck...
23:46 CaptainNiobe elim, stop picking on hy... lol
23:46 HighMan Wait :P
23:46 HighMan Oh haha so funny masterofmonks :P
23:48 HighMan CaptainNiobe, Nothing really... Need to get afew things fixed
23:48 CaptainNiobe ?
23:48 HighMan Nothing really xD
23:49 HighMan Need to get a few parts also... Hbu?
23:55 eadthem wow   50,000VDC

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