Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-21

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00:00 Druidic_Rifleman hey yNos has bat man done a fule effeciancy test on histruck?
00:04 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: they sell both in the store...
00:05 masterofmonks Yes, but hardly anyone around here buys brown eggs from the store, they buy them from their neighbor.
00:07 yNos i doubt he gets more than 17mpg..
00:07 eadthem prob didnt get much better than that when new
00:07 eadthem prob less
00:07 Druidic_Rifleman i amsure he gets more then he did with that gapping whole
00:08 yNos its not togather yet.. so it gets infinite mpg.. or 0mpg..
00:08 yNos because it wont start..
00:08 eadthem probably helps not trying to burn a mixture of fuel+oil+water
00:08 eadthem wont start?
00:08 yNos glycol works really good in the engines.
00:08 Druidic_Rifleman probly still needs more assembly
00:08 yNos its is not completely assembled..
00:12 Druidic_Rifleman I amcurious as tohow horribly that affected his millage
00:12 eadthem ?
00:12 yNos he drove less than 5 miles round trip, almost daily..
00:13 yNos the engine barely warmed up.
00:14 tonsofpcs ugh... silly online retailers all have "filter by:" but they only let you select one in each category... I really want "not plasma" when selecting a TV technology and "not 60Hz" when selecting a scan rate and .....
00:15 eadthem newegg ftw
00:15 eadthem you wouldnt beleve how many times ive bought stuff from digikey a fue dollers more than from mouser or jameco   just because i could sort and search properly.
00:15 tonsofpcs b&h ftw.
00:16 tonsofpcs unfortunately, i'm buying with gift card
00:16 yNos If it is much of a problem, you can sent it to me.
00:16 yNos i'll take care of it for you
00:17 eadthem pretend your makeing (ammount on card) per (number of hours it takes to find what you want)   weighed agansed your normal salary
00:18 tonsofpcs yNos: http://www.sears.com/
00:18 BotSteve Title: Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more
00:18 tonsofpcs eadthem: sweet! I can spend even more then! :-p
00:19 eadthem speaking of  i have about 200$ in newegg cards i need to spend on building a new computer
00:20 tonsofpcs also, since when is "LED" not "LCD" ?
00:20 Druidic_Rifleman wow the labs supply of bull shit zero smoke is counterfit bullshit
00:20 eadthem sense someone thougth it would make a nice buzzword
00:21 eadthem until someone sues over getting a LCD with LED backlight when they thought they were buying a LED display
00:22 tonsofpcs LSZH?
00:22 eadthem guess the main reason why i have not built a new computer is i dont see how it would help me much
00:22 eadthem yet
00:22 tonsofpcs eadthem: no, like they list "LED backlit LCDs" as "LED" and "non-LED backlit LCDs" as "LCD"....
00:22 tonsofpcs eadthem: tablet.
00:23 eadthem they make tablets with 2TB RAID 01 arrays  8-12GB ram and 6-12 CPU cores?
00:24 tonsofpcs also, why can I easily get a 19" 1920x1080 display or a 37" 1920x1080 display but not a 26" 1920x1080 display?
00:24 eadthem if im gonna build a new computer i want to take what im programming on   and run it in ramdisk  and i want to click compile and have it finsh before i can getup and make supper
00:27 * tonsofpcs introduces eadthem to BASIC
00:28 eadthem atm im working on wrapper libarys for the project
00:28 eadthem thos are easy
00:28 eadthem but compling a mmo clinet   that takes some power
00:28 eadthem least the swgprecu mmo server took some power
00:28 tonsofpcs but you can do that on a farm and not worry about local power
00:29 eadthem hows that work
00:29 eadthem i mean i have enough computers for a farm  just dont know exactly how to set that up
00:29 tonsofpcs beowulf cliuster and ssh?
00:29 eadthem atm what i have is a suse compile server
00:30 eadthem im writing the code in codelite on windows and i also ahve it open in codelite on the compile server    so i can compile it and keep editing
00:31 eadthem dont know  think i shuld get thrue all the cross platform wrapper libarys first
00:31 eadthem else ile never do them and it will just be bac
00:31 eadthem bad
00:33 eadthem tonsofpcs so how dose gcc work on a beowolf custer
00:33 tonsofpcs no clue
00:33 tonsofpcs ask someone who actuallydoes crazy stuff like that (ynos? Cprossu?)
00:34 eadthem i might be there 1 day if i do all that i plan with this
00:34 eadthem planning to do my own nosql DB server software    somethng ment for a MMO server
00:35 eadthem sql just isnt it
00:36 eadthem thinking of doing a high level filesystem+RAID for the datafiles across hotswap drives and hotswap servers
00:36 tonsofpcs SQL is a query language, not a database per se
00:37 eadthem ya  point is  most of the inefficany in say  mariaDB  is SQL
00:37 eadthem not to mention mixing any SQL with C/C++ is and always will be a bugtrap     i want something that compiles in to c++ like its ment for it
00:37 tonsofpcs so the transfer of "SELECT BLAH FROM FOO WHERE BAR" is the bottleneck?
00:38 eadthem no the issue is if BLAH dose not exist in FOO   the program will have issues
00:38 eadthem and they wont show up till runtime
00:39 tonsofpcs and it would with some other sysem?  also, don't you test your queries before writing them  in code?
00:39 eadthem i want to make the DB structure definition compiled in to the program
00:39 tonsofpcs then what if the DB changes?
00:39 eadthem the program will define the structure
00:40 eadthem i want the program to be the definition for the database  so they cant mismatch
00:40 tonsofpcs so if you have to expand the structure for a future update?
00:40 astro73|alice i feel sad for my dad. he hasn't learned new tools or techniques in years, so i end up telling him about different software does things better
00:40 eadthem bit of a ticky concept when you start trying to handle  o well the programs not using row X anymore  how shal i handle it and so on
00:41 eadthem o as for testing querys   yes i do,  But i cant guarntee that every C/C++ programmer will
00:41 tonsofpcs right, which is why queries are allowed to monitor the database....
00:42 eadthem the problem we had on SWGPreCu was i was the only SQL programmer who also knew C/C++
00:42 eadthem i say select   everyone else says  WTF
00:42 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe-afk
00:42 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe-afk 0.80 hours ago at 2012-03-20 23:54:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:42:36 UTC
00:43 eadthem Dispite me writing a full wrapper for SQL query generation that encases it in a C++ interface      i have found that most c/c++ programmers still cant get the concepts enough to make it work
00:43 astro73|alice you mix C and SQL?
00:43 astro73|alice and i'm not surprised
00:45 eadthem thers going to be SQL still but i want to do item and character storage using the nosql sytem i was talking about
00:45 eadthem that away if smeone says i need another varable they can add it and next runtime the nosql db will add it to all the rows in the DB (with some safety checks)
00:46 yNos lololol http://memebase.com/category/a-logo-can-change-everything/
00:46 BotSteve Title: A Logo Can Change Everything - Memebase: Rage Comics, Forever Alone, Y U No Guy, Troll Face, Foul Bachelor Frog
00:46 astro73|alice eadthem: might want to really dig into that, since non-sql DBs tend to have a lot of caveats
00:47 astro73|alice although an MMO could probably do alright with key/value store
00:47 eadthem well my intent is to use the same dataformat to pass itme and character data  zoneserver to zoneserver and so on
00:48 eadthem so im talking a major setup
00:48 astro73|alice you mean like XML or JSON?
00:48 eadthem ya
00:48 eadthem but binary
00:48 astro73|alice oh, BSON
00:49 eadthem never herd of bson
00:49 eadthem dont know what json is   and XML is crap for parsing speed
00:49 eadthem might want to find out what bson and json are
00:50 astro73|alice JSON is a simpler generic data format based on the syntax of javascript, allowing you to store maps, lists, strings, numbers, bools, etc in arbitrary structure
00:50 astro73|alice BSON, iirc, is the same thing but encoded in binary instead of plain text
00:51 astro73|alice the parsers for these will give you a data structure without any additional work
00:51 eadthem so kinda like simple config system      easy to parse like .ini  but formatted more like c/c++  and  with compile time doctype/structure
00:52 eadthem ya but what kind of work dsoe the "parsers for these will give you a data structure" mean for the cpu
00:52 eadthem i mean tbh  it can take 1000000 clock cycles
00:52 eadthem as long as its not occupying much system resources
00:52 astro73|alice tbh, i never cared that much
00:52 eadthem and not takeing any real time
00:53 astro73|alice but it is faster than XML
00:53 astro73|alice a lot faster
00:53 eadthem with a game server  time is a bit diffrent than most programs.   i can use queing mutexes    witch dont cause CPU occupation  but do take real time   and that affects my ping
00:54 eadthem i can do that a bit   but to much ping will go up
00:54 astro73|alice lots of async
00:54 eadthem same for sql querys   if any sql querys are done by the zoneserver  someone will pause mid sword swing :p
00:55 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Which is why that data is prefetched :P
00:55 eadthem it takes the sql query a miniscule ammount of cpu occupation but a huge ammount of delay
00:55 astro73|alice ok, game system needs to do transparent caching
00:55 astro73|alice so that the game code can read/write data instantly
00:55 astro73|alice and a back end handles loading/saving it to a persistent store
00:55 * Monkeh|Lap passes tggwannabe How to Type for dummies
00:55 Monkeh|Lap :)
00:55 eadthem ya  the firewall will prefetch anticpated DB needs when its decrypting the packets
00:55 tggwannabe thanks banana
00:56 astro73|alice anyways
00:56 * Monkeh|Lap wanders off to watch Castle
00:56 astro73|alice i would not consider it difficult to write a JSON parser in a few hundred lines of C++
00:56 astro73|alice the syntax is trivial
00:56 eadthem fue hundred lines isnt bad
00:57 astro73|alice and translates directly and immediately to standard data structures
00:57 Monkeh|Lap I would be very willing to bet there's already a nice, simple, lightweight parser with a BSD or MIT license you can abuse out there
00:57 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: several
00:57 * eadthem runs cloc on SCS
00:57 astro73|alice assuming you're not using something like erlang or node.js
00:57 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: I probably have three or four on this laptop alone, actually.
00:57 Monkeh|Lap With varying licenses
00:57 eadthem 1127 lines vested in SCS
00:57 Monkeh|Lap JSON gets around.
00:58 tggwannabe zozo: http://godslittlestangelsinhaiti.org/notesfromthenicu/
00:58 BotSteve Title: Notes from the NICU
00:59 Monkeh|Lap tggwannabe: So how's the bullshit bullshit going?
00:59 astro73|alice alternatively, there's google's protocol buffers. my gut is that it's more work up front with explicit structure definitions, but it will have faster parsing
00:59 eadthem gonna look in to BSON
00:59 eadthem how easy will it integrate in to objects
01:00 astro73|alice depends on how you write your constructor library
01:00 eadthem my intent for the mmodb(nosql system) was the programmer on object creation (construction) would register its varables with the mmodb object that was part of that object
01:01 astro73|alice sorry, that's a python thing. "Let me define one library that magically transforms objects to JSON and back"
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01:01 PenguinLover evening everyone
01:01 astro73|alice ok, seriously?
01:01 astro73|alice you want something that has support for declaritive programming
01:01 tggwannabe wannabe has to reboot....
01:01 astro73|alice so you can litterally do that
01:01 astro73|alice C++ is terrible for it
01:02 * tggwannabe reboots
01:02 tggwannabe bbl
01:02 * PenguinLover includes library
01:02 eadthem k this is a example of what i mean   its SCS witch is a config sytem
01:04 astro73|alice pastebin, plz
01:04 eadthem test.setNamespace("double");//[double]
01:04 eadthem const double * double_test1 = test.defineDouble("test1");//double test1=1.1
01:04 eadthem double_test1 = 0;//default value
01:05 eadthem just 3 lines
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01:05 eadthem so test is a SCS object    you tell it the name of the config file
01:05 tonsofpcs http://www.cobyusa.com/?p=prod&prod_num_id=10502&pcat_id=1001 looks like it's it...
01:05 BotSteve Title: 24" Class LED High-Definition TV | COBY
01:05 * lwq_laptop goes to live in a cave
01:05 * tgg|wannabe hugs the lee
01:06 eadthem then you make the doctype    in this case  [double]   witch is defined by setting the current namespace to "double"
01:06 astro73|alice eadthem: what about:
01:06 eadthem then you defineDouble  called  test1  and  it returns the pointer to it
01:06 astro73|alice namespace double { double test1(default=0) } ?
01:06 eadthem so then you use that pointer wherever you want to use test1
01:06 egrsteve hello
01:07 astro73|alice that sounds like it's going to get old very fast
01:07 astro73|alice and why not pass the default value to the define function?
01:07 eadthem whenever you want to load from config  you call .loadSCS(); and all the varables will be set to whats in the file     whenever youw ant to save   you do saveSCS();
01:07 eadthem because its just a c/c++ varable at that point
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01:08 astro73|alice this sounds like you're going to need to become very familiar with meta programming or code generation really soon here
01:08 Toastdude Hi
01:08 astro73|alice because 3 lines x lots of config options = lots of boilerplate
01:08 eadthem whever it goes  SCS has the pointer    so with 1 call all of the pointers defined by test will be loaded from disk or saved to disk
01:08 eadthem ahh  well only 1 line per a varable is needed
01:09 eadthem an additional for a default value if you want it
01:09 eadthem and a line to change namespaces in the doctype  if you even need more than 1
01:09 astro73|alice still think you should be able to include the default as an argument
01:09 astro73|alice what is SCS used for?
01:09 astro73|alice do you ever need thread safety?
01:09 eadthem it replaces the .ini
01:09 astro73|alice i mean, in the code
01:10 astro73|alice what kind of stuff is it used for?
01:10 eadthem it is threadsafe  provided you dont do anything foolish that would be foolish with any other object
01:11 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/stormwarn2/bin/VTEC.scs  well thers the SCS config for VTEC info used by stormwarn2
01:11 astro73|alice well, it's not threadsafe if the config changes in the middle of an operation
01:12 eadthem well a save or load would be equal to changeing or reading all the pointers it created
01:12 astro73|alice right
01:12 eadthem so that would require a mutex if any other threads were using data larger than a int32 from it
01:12 tgg|wannabe astro73|alice: how are you doing?
01:12 astro73|alice assuming the server is threaded (not event driven)
01:13 eadthem however its ment to be the global varables for setting up a program
01:13 astro73|alice if thread A is using a variety of config and thread B is loading the config, thread A can end up with a mix of options
01:13 eadthem so there not ment to be written back and read from disk execpt at program start or program end
01:13 astro73|alice so why was SCS necessary? what was wrong with INI?
01:13 astro73|alice or anything else, for that matter
01:14 eadthem you must write 1 line of code to save each varable to disk and another to read each varable
01:14 eadthem this has a high bugrate as its easy to typo a name in 1 and not the other
01:14 eadthem or forget to load a varable or  save it
01:14 astro73|alice right
01:14 eadthem SCS you define it once and it gives you the pointer
01:15 lwq_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni0rTLg5B8
01:15 BotSteve Title: Boots and Cats - YouTube
01:15 astro73|alice of course, you have to dereference the pointer every time you use it
01:15 eadthem ya
01:15 * egrsteve has Copland's 'Appalachian Spring' stuck in his head
01:15 eadthem but thats hardly painful
01:15 astro73|alice not for source
01:15 astro73|alice but CPU time?
01:16 eadthem a derefrenced pointer isnt a issue for cpu time
01:16 eadthem its handled by the compiler
01:16 astro73|alice really?
01:16 eadthem if its a simistatic pointer then its a compile thing
01:16 astro73|alice last i checked an indirect reference always took more time than a direct reference
01:16 astro73|alice except it isn't a semistatic pointer
01:17 astro73|alice because i'm betting SCS gets the space from malloc()
01:17 lwq_laptop tgg|wannabe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nni0rTLg5B8
01:17 BotSteve Title: Boots and Cats - YouTube
01:17 eadthem yep
01:17 astro73|alice so the compiler is unable to find a location at compile time
01:17 eadthem but the pointer dosent change anywhere
01:17 eadthem mmm
01:17 astro73|alice it still takes time
01:18 astro73|alice more time than no pointer
01:18 eadthem guess then it depends on the cpu
01:18 astro73|alice as a rule, two RAM fetches are longer than one
01:18 eadthem a indirect refrence shurely cant take more than a additonal clock cycle
01:18 eadthem and such a thing shuld be handled by the branch predition unit
01:19 astro73|alice twice as many as before
01:19 astro73|alice and i never studied branch prediction
01:20 astro73|alice i still think C++ is a terrible language for it
01:20 eadthem the root idea is if by looking at code you can predict extra varables needed   only looking + or - 6 steps from your current location  that you might need  you get them
01:20 eadthem so a indirect refrence would be or shuld be a low hanging fruit for that
01:21 astro73|alice especially a static one
01:21 astro73|alice ok, x86 is still terrible, but fixable with rediculously complicated hardware
01:21 eadthem could be    but i need somethjing to save window positions  or basic program settings like the location and password to a mysql server
01:22 eadthem ither way  because its for config   its not going to be reused over and over during a program during runtime
01:22 eadthem mostly on initilisation
01:23 eadthem still its something to conisder  as i was strongly debating on using SCS for game files
01:23 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/mmo/terraintest/maps/start.stn   SCS terrain definition file
01:23 astro73|alice i'm not sure why you think writing the whole thing in C/C++ is a good idea
01:23 eadthem what else would you use
01:24 eadthem if your worred about the cost of a indirection
01:24 astro73|alice you're the one worried about the cost of decoding
01:24 eadthem asm    sure   i can do ASM   just i wouldnt write a game in ASM
01:24 astro73|alice i worry about the cost of programmer time
01:24 astro73|alice i would use Node.js, python, ruby, or even lisp for something this large and complex
01:25 eadthem as far as me and the other 2 pepole who i know use SCS    it saves a good ammount of programmer time   over INI  and XML
01:25 eadthem if all you want to do is save some basic stuff
01:25 astro73|alice a language where i spend less time worrying about minutia and more time about things like proper caching of data
01:26 astro73|alice actually, javascript has pretty terrible metaprogramming, so i might not use it either
01:27 eadthem dont know    with all the bugs ive seen from c/c++ programmers writing SQL   makeing it much more object integrated seams best bang for buck
01:27 astro73|alice how about this:
01:27 astro73|alice a language that can automatically produce object instances from sql results?
01:28 eadthem PHP
01:28 astro73|alice PHP's database libraries are crap
01:28 astro73|alice it encourages SQL injection
01:28 eadthem i ported SQLgen to php
01:28 eadthem so thats not a issue for me
01:28 astro73|alice ok
01:29 astro73|alice have you ever looked at something like the django object model?
01:29 eadthem no
01:29 astro73|alice you get a full relational database, but don't have to write any SQL
01:29 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/sqlgen/SQLgenTest.txt
01:29 astro73|alice and the data structure is part of your class definition
01:30 eadthem thats how SQLgen works in php  and for the most part its the same in C++
01:30 astro73|alice really?
01:30 * tgg|wannabe needs a real moust
01:30 tgg|wannabe mouse*
01:30 astro73|alice i guess that's better...
01:30 tgg|wannabe my touchpad is FREAKING OUT
01:30 eadthem it prevents sql typos   and it enforces bounds and injection checking
01:30 eadthem not perfect  but better
01:31 eadthem its about 2x faster at writing sql querys than printf in c/c++ aswell
01:32 astro73|alice MyType.objects.filter(colname=value, colname_gt=value)
01:33 astro73|alice if i'm reading your code correctly
01:33 egrsteve hello
01:33 eadthem witch one   the first select statemnt?
01:34 eadthem select    is  select * from $
01:34 astro73|alice i just wrote `SELECT * FROM mytype WHERE colname=? AND colname>?;`
01:34 eadthem whereEqualTo is     WHERE $colname$ <=> $value$        and value is injection protected
01:34 tgg|wannabe hi steve
01:35 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/sqlgen/SQLStatements.txt
01:35 eadthem that might explain it more      thats the SQL syntax definition for it
01:35 egrsteve hi kelly
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01:35 eadthem keep in mind i ported it from c++ to php
01:36 Sgt_Lemming mornink all
01:36 astro73|alice yeah....
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01:36 astro73|alice PHP isn't that great of a language either
01:37 astro73|alice of course, i have a disdain for all static languages
01:37 eadthem its good for html
01:37 eadthem i gather your about as easy to please as i am
01:37 astro73|alice it's good for small web apps
01:37 eadthem but for/with diffrent reasons
01:37 astro73|alice pretty much
01:37 astro73|alice i've used PHP
01:37 astro73|alice it's useful
01:38 astro73|alice but doesn't scale well
01:38 astro73|alice the useful stuff is in all the major templating engines, though
01:39 * lwq_laptop pokes tgg|wannabe
01:39 tgg|wannabe zomg
01:39 tgg|wannabe my computer/mouse is freaking out
01:39 tgg|wannabe what?
01:40 lwq_laptop you should get this tattoo :P http://www.damnlol.com/incase-daddy-forgets-16590.html
01:40 BotSteve Title: Incase Daddy Forgets? - Damn! LOL
01:40 tgg|wannabe no
01:40 lwq_laptop :P
01:41 astro73|alice eadthem: what i want is to write code to make the computer do my work for me
01:42 PenguinLover re: some girls think of everything...does 'kelly' have a sister?!
01:42 tgg|wannabe .c 300/12
01:42 BotSteve 25
01:46 tgg|wannabe .c 16/12
01:46 BotSteve 1.33333333
01:46 tgg|wannabe whats the diagonal of a 16x9 rectangle?
01:46 astro73|alice and my code sparing partner seems to have disappeared. that's unfortunate
01:47 tgg|wannabe i'm sorry
01:48 tgg|wannabe you can do math for the people down here :P
01:48 Sgt_Lemming hey wannbe, is ynos still around?
01:48 tgg|wannabe 16ft by 9ft rectangle (screen), whats the diagonal
01:48 tgg|wannabe nope, he didn't come in today
01:48 tgg|wannabe stuff to do at home or something
01:48 eadthem astro73|alice oddly enough  thats what i do at work
01:48 astro73|alice eadthem: argue with people?
01:49 eadthem no  program comuters and robots to do work for me
01:49 astro73|alice oh
01:49 astro73|alice yes
01:50 egrsteve sqrt(16^2+9^2)
01:50 astro73|alice except in my case, i get the computer to write the software for me
01:50 egrsteve .c sqrt(16^2+9^2)
01:50 BotSteve 18.3575598
01:50 astro73|alice like SQL
01:51 astro73|alice i'm not going to tell it how to do it, just what i want done
01:51 egrsteve tgg|wannabe: ^^
01:51 tgg|wannabe thanks
01:55 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzGOJJmrPNo
01:55 BotSteve Title: Stupid Ebay Scammer - YouTube
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02:00 lwq_laptop Sgt_Lemming: people like that makes me sick
02:00 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:00 Sgt_Lemming I like at the end "judgement of $5000 to the plaintiff" Suck on that mis scammer
02:00 eadthem ?
02:01 lwq_laptop i like that part most
02:01 * tgg|wannabe needs a real mouse now
02:02 eadthem X7 is good   atm i have a XL-750BK
02:02 lwq_laptop why?
02:02 * lwq_laptop slaps toast with a rotten herring
02:02 lwq_laptop :P
02:03 eadthem hey what ever happend to mooses gerbil
02:03 eadthem i mean did it die after chris threw it away
02:03 Toastdude :P
02:03 Sgt_Lemming it died
02:03 Sgt_Lemming that's about the only option
02:03 lwq_laptop chris didnt gibroni did
02:03 tgg|wannabe lee, my touchpad is freaking out....tats all
02:04 tgg|wannabe can't move where i want it to go :/
02:04 lwq_laptop well you never know
02:04 eadthem well i mean someone could of gotten it before it froze
02:04 lwq_laptop take a damp cloth to it, may have some grease on it
02:04 eadthem man  wtf is up with microsoft update
02:05 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Microsoft. You expect functionality?
02:05 eadthem mo matter what it dose it cant install the latist service pack for vc2010
02:05 eadthem well ive yet to have a issue with windows update
02:05 eadthem till now
02:05 eadthem and no its not suprising
02:06 * hopstafarian observes that people are stupid, and vain...
02:09 * hopstafarian has dinner, and family interactions calling...wishes all a good night
02:09 eadthem its not that it failed   its that it gave no error messages at all
02:09 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: The weight catch was impressive.
02:10 Sgt_Lemming eh?
02:10 Sgt_Lemming oh, yeah
02:10 Sgt_Lemming that is pretty amusing
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02:11 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I can't decide if that five grand is punishment for the scammer or a reward for the scammee for having the balls to actually take them to court.
02:12 Sgt_Lemming punishment
02:12 eadthem its sitting here    installing    every once in a while it adds a green bar   hdd churning     then all the sudden    FAIL
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02:12 eadthem if it only told me what it was doing i might beable to fix it
02:12 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: God forbid you get an error message.
02:12 Monkeh|Lap It might confuse you!!!
02:12 eadthem it did sugceed in 1 thing
02:12 Sgt_Lemming yes the scammee benefits from it, but the amount of time and effort they would have put into getting it into court will the evidence and everything would justify it in my mind
02:12 eadthem it made it so vc2010 wont start at all
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02:13 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Aye, it's a reward for going through all that because it's the right thing to do.
02:13 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Now, why does Google Docs not have permission to, well, do anything..
02:13 * Monkeh|Lap prods his phone a bit
02:19 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder
02:19 HighMan Night all
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman Could TGG build the most effective pumpkin cannon ever????
02:20 * HighMan Wants to kill myfan.
02:20 astro73|alice define a metric in which to measure effectiveness
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman range
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna break the record which is 3/4 of one mine
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman mile*
02:23 egrsteve limiting factor there is air resivior size, flow rate and barrel length
02:24 egrsteve too much pressure and pumpkins explode
02:27 Monkeh|Lap Too much electricity and pumpkins explode.
02:28 astro73|alice so you need to reach high velocities without high accelerations
02:28 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Looooooong arse barrel.
02:28 astro73|alice i figured
02:30 Monkeh|Lap As long as it doesn't end up looking like Pinocchio the Panther II.
02:30 Monkeh|Lap Nobody here's going to get that
02:31 eadthem nope
02:32 eadthem is it still a cannon if you use RDX?
02:32 Monkeh|Lap I play World of Tanks.
02:32 eadthem or say hydrogen peroxide
02:32 eadthem ie 100%
02:32 astro73|alice .w RDX
02:32 BotSteve "RDX, an initialism for Research Department Explosive, is an explosive nitroamine widely used in military and industrial applications." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX
02:32 Monkeh|Lap The Panther II has an 8.8cm L/100. Yeah, an 8.8m long barrel.
02:32 astro73|alice i would think so
02:32 eadthem .w c4
02:32 BotSteve "C-4 (explosive), a type of plastic explosive" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4
02:32 eadthem aka rdx
02:33 Monkeh|Lap A cannon is a cannon, it doesn't really matter what's used in it
02:33 astro73|alice since that's what cannons did before we had pressurized air
02:33 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: RDX and C4 are not the same
02:33 eadthem no but they both go boom
02:33 Monkeh|Lap RDX makes up like, 90%+ of C4, but..
02:33 eadthem aww  whats 10% among frends
02:34 Monkeh|Lap RDX is powder
02:34 eadthem when ya got c4  its still a party
02:34 Monkeh|Lap C4, is.. putty.
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Although interestingly it's a powder until you work it.
02:34 astro73|alice C4 is a form of the chemical RDX?
02:34 Monkeh|Lap You can get it in drums and it just looks like a powder, as soon as you grab some and work it it binds
02:35 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: That's like saying bread is a form of flour. :P
02:36 astro73|alice oddly, i don't think i want to bake high explosives
02:36 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: You can burn C4.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap It's quite controllable
02:36 astro73|alice what's the active ingredient of C4?
02:36 Monkeh|Lap RDX
02:36 astro73|alice ok
02:36 Monkeh|Lap It burns fine
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Just don't apply pressure while it's doing so.
02:36 astro73|alice it's still not going in my oven
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Well you can't bake an anti-tank cake, then.
02:38 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: You can even shoot C4 (or other RDX compounds), it won't go off.
02:38 astro73|alice ...
02:38 astro73|alice what.
02:38 astro73|alice wtf?
02:38 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Pressure.. no heat.
02:38 astro73|alice gun + high explosive != boom?
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Correct
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Also C4 + fire != boom.
02:39 astro73|alice that's confusing
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Not really, you've been educated by video games :P
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Now if you set C4 on fire THEN shoot it..
02:40 eadthem ya c4 dosent realy generate a lot of fire
02:40 Monkeh|Lap Oh, and don't put it in your freezer.
02:40 Monkeh|Lap Seriously. It gets.. pissy if you freeze it.
02:40 eadthem its more of a large quantaty of expanding gas
02:40 astro73|alice ...
02:40 Monkeh|Lap You can actually melt it.
02:40 Monkeh|Lap But yeah, frozen RDX is a bit unstable
02:41 astro73|alice "this can blow a hole the size of your bedroom. But don't worry! It's perfectly safe. Unless you...."
02:41 Monkeh|Lap Yep
02:41 eadthem ya thats the other thing   you can burn c4 and it wotn explode
02:41 astro73|alice something is wrong with this picture
02:41 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: I covered that
02:42 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: What's that?
02:42 astro73|alice perfectly safe high explosive
02:42 astro73|alice so as long as I don't combine pressure with heat or cold, C4 is safe.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap Essentially.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap It's stable
02:43 eadthem stable in that you can drop it   hit it  light it on fire and it wont go off
02:43 Druidic_Rifleman C4 + fire = a freshly brewed cup of tee
02:43 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Just don't stamp it out when you're done
02:44 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Yes. Now put a blasting cap in it and you can blow a hole in a hardened structure.
02:44 Monkeh|Lap Useful stuff
02:44 eadthem ya now blasting caps  thouse are dangerous
02:44 Monkeh|Lap It's really great because you can carry it around and get shot at and not worry about it exploding
02:44 eadthem they are not safe explosives
02:44 Druidic_Rifleman and ifyour mission goes a fowl you can boil water on it
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Grenades aren't a huge issue because they're nicely contained in a big steel box
02:45 astro73|alice i'm still back on the idea that "safe explossive" isn't an oxymoron
02:45 Monkeh|Lap But something like TNT.. fall over hard or get shot and you've got a problem.
02:45 eadthem its all levels of safety
02:45 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Some are safer than others
02:45 Monkeh|Lap It's a choice
02:46 eadthem like saying sure  a motor cycle is safe unless you do  x y z or a b c happens
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Do you want something you absolutely know will always go off when you tell it to but also might go off when you sneeze, or something with a 20% failure rate but you can't trigger it accidentally without really trying?
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Tip: Nearly everyone doubles up on detonators.
02:46 eadthem a car is safe unless you do do similar things but  youle probably live
02:46 eadthem just a level of safety
02:47 Monkeh|Lap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Eod2.jpg/640px-Eod2.jpg
02:47 Monkeh|Lap There aren't two of those for the hell of it.
02:47 eadthem for the record  i know the stuff i know because i haev a frend in EOD
02:48 Monkeh|Lap Electric detonators are probably the safest
02:49 Monkeh|Lap Small heat-activated explosive which is ignited by, essentially, burning out a resistor
02:49 Monkeh|Lap Sets off a slightly larger charge of, well, probably RDX. Which does the rest.
02:49 Monkeh|Lap (resistors make a really simple way to remotely trigger fireworks and the like, too)
02:50 eadthem electric match
02:50 Monkeh|Lap Yep
02:51 eadthem wheres TMB at a time like this
02:51 Monkeh|Lap He like making things explode?
02:51 eadthem thats how kidwell got his nickname
02:51 Monkeh|Lap He and I could get along.. ;)
02:51 eadthem he blew shit up in his back yard when he was growing up
02:52 eadthem suposidly not small stuff ither
02:52 Monkeh|Lap I could make some fairly nasty little explosives if I wanted to, just got nowhere to set them off safely.
02:53 Monkeh|Lap I fear I must sleep
02:53 tgg|wannabe lies!
02:53 Monkeh|Lap Damn lies!
02:53 * Monkeh|Lap juggles some C4 for astro73|alice
02:55 * tgg|wannabe packs up and heads out
02:57 JA12 it's 22:57 there isin't it
02:57 JA12 .t tgg
02:57 BotSteve Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:57:28 TGG
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03:31 Druidic_Rifleman any one know when bat mans Birthday? Is?
03:31 Druidic_Rifleman for kicks... I am tempted to Get a yellow Molle belt utility kit with a custem bat logo buckle
03:34 tlockley http://bit.ly/GC6cAS
03:34 tlockley finally got some success with my dmx contoller over OSC
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03:38 Sgt_Lemming osc?
03:38 tlockley open sound control
03:39 Sgt_Lemming nice
03:39 tlockley now i just need to make it less of a toatal hack job
03:40 Sgt_Lemming see my videos of my little board tlockley?
03:40 tlockley no, mind reposting the link?
03:44 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkDpEbv0Q4
03:44 BotSteve Title: SNARC First Prototype and Proof of Concept - YouTube
03:44 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSkthJct3w
03:44 BotSteve Title: SNARC Network Test - YouTube
03:45 tlockley what is SNARC?
03:46 tlockley nvm
03:46 tlockley i just cliekd the link
03:47 tlockley what are you gonna use them for?
03:48 lwq_laptop i may not understand anything what he is saying but i love to watch through the worm hole with morgan freeman
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03:49 tlockley dude cosmos on netflix
03:57 Cprossu *check for messages
03:57 Cprossu nope bbl
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04:04 wannabe1987 .
04:05 Druidic_Rifleman what are people up to
04:09 wannabe1987 going to the lab, you?
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04:11 wannabe1987 hi
04:12 Druidic_Rifleman derp still no luck with the court  house
04:12 lwq_laptop http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5619080/souljaboy/
04:12 BotSteve Title: Souljaboy - Video
04:12 lwq_laptop DANCING INMATES :D
04:13 wannabe1987 well, druid, if you hadn't said the wrong thing at the border....you woulda been here by now
04:14 Guardianzozo threaten them with a lawyer
04:15 Guardianzozo or mention that you are talking to a lawyer about it
04:15 lwq_laptop lol
04:15 Guardianzozo or have a parent mention it, might be a better option
04:16 Guardianzozo you have rights...well ok your in canada so i dont know... but you should have rights to get the documents you need
04:16 wannabe1987 he still has rights, i'm just unsure of what they are
04:16 Guardianzozo if they cant find it even mentioning a lawyer will get a fire lit under their asses
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04:19 wannabe1987 hi speedrunnerG55!
04:19 wannabe1987 how are the ponies?
04:19 speedrunnerG55 Great
04:20 speedrunnerG55 Have you played tribes asend?
04:20 wannabe1987 nope
04:21 speedrunnerG55 Also i built a new gamming pc last week and its awesome
04:21 speedrunnerG55 Water cooled core i7 2700k
04:22 tlockley night guys
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04:23 speedrunnerG55 Night
04:25 wannabe1987 egrsteve
04:27 Druidic_Rifleman p[roblem is in the last 7 years they Closed 2 of the court house's and built a super court house
04:29 Guardianzozo dosent matter
04:29 Guardianzozo they need to find it or produce a new document
04:30 Guardianzozo because they are lazy means you cant come visit, you need to get pissed off about that and light a fire under their asses
04:30 Guardianzozo litteraly if need be
04:30 Guardianzozo =)
04:33 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell tlockley planning to use it for access control for various things, buildings as well as machine tools etc, hence the E-Stop header.
04:33 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when tlockley is around.
04:33 wannabe1987 hey now, dont' go talking about setting canadiana gov't buldings on fire, thye might see you as a terrorist....
04:34 Guardianzozo well i dont plan on going there
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04:53 egrsteve Sgt_Lemming: are you building something with an estop?
04:53 Guardianzozo hey steve
04:54 egrsteve if useing a mcu with an estop make sure it will ALWAYS fail safe
04:54 Guardianzozo we need to make a noodle cannon for golf balls
04:54 Guardianzozo =)
04:54 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, the board I have been working on for the last few months is designed to allow implementation of networked E-Stops
04:54 egrsteve thats not a noodle canon it's a golf ball cannon
04:54 wannabe1987 lol yes, but same idea
04:55 Guardianzozo well ok a "noodle cannon style" cannon
04:55 egrsteve Sgt_Lemming: just be careful with that
04:55 Sgt_Lemming yeah egrsteve
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04:55 Sgt_Lemming it'll be an adjunct to proper e-stops, not replacing them
04:55 egrsteve you know how to make a fail safe estop circuit with a relay/contactpor
04:55 egrsteve *contactor
04:55 * Sgt_Lemming nods
04:56 Sgt_Lemming this will be using a relay/contactor to switch a machine on for access control
04:56 egrsteve use that but add a series relay to the coil that is controled by the MCU
04:56 egrsteve so if the MCU fails it trigers the main estop
04:56 egrsteve yes but that same system can be a remote kill
04:57 Sgt_Lemming this will be (phsyical E-Stop) > (relay) > (machine)
04:57 Sgt_Lemming so the local e-stop is a physical one, the network one is a relay behind the real one
04:57 egrsteve ok, just make sure that it will fail safe including restore after a power outage
04:57 Sgt_Lemming it will
04:58 egrsteve ok, your network one you can include in the local e stop sting
04:58 egrsteve if you use a relay
04:58 egrsteve *string
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04:58 egrsteve that way you only need one high current contactor
04:59 Sgt_Lemming the mosfet to switch the relay on/off is grounded via a 10k resistor, the default state at boot for the pin it's connected to is a high impedance input state
04:59 Sgt_Lemming so it won't turn on at power on
04:59 egrsteve thats good
05:00 egrsteve even when it comes on the e stop string should require a local reset after the network one is enabled
05:00 Sgt_Lemming yeah
05:00 egrsteve ok
05:00 egrsteve so it sounds like you have though it through then
05:01 * Sgt_Lemming nods
05:01 Sgt_Lemming been working on it for about three months :-P
05:01 egrsteve so many people think connect contactor to MCU via fet and that is good enough
05:01 egrsteve no, that is not fail safe though
05:02 egrsteve contactors with aux contacts are nice for this
05:03 Sgt_Lemming what'd I really
05:03 egrsteve NO to hold itself on once active with a NC estop in series with the coil
05:03 Sgt_Lemming like to get is a magnetic hold/release e-stop
05:03 egrsteve simple but effective
05:04 egrsteve just use a contactor with an aux contact you can do the same thing
05:04 egrsteve a NO button to turn it on, A NC to kill power
05:05 Sgt_Lemming i.e. it's held on when it's powered, but can be tripped by removing power from the button
05:05 egrsteve place a momentary button || across the NO aux contact wire that in series a NC  red button in series with the contactor coil
05:05 egrsteve pressing the NO button turns power on
05:05 egrsteve the NO aux contact holds it on
05:06 egrsteve the NC red button will break the coil current killing it
05:06 egrsteve add a relay in series with the NC button or additional buttons for multi kill locations
05:07 egrsteve if that makes any sense
05:08 egrsteve the trick is a contactor with aux contacts on it
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05:13 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude "“What do Batman and sixteen sodiums have in common? Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na”"
05:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
05:14 Sgt_Lemming lol
05:16 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
05:17 wannabe1987 thx steve
05:19 lwq_laptop i love the science channel, only place where geeks like me can get their minds blown, well there besides bed
05:20 wannabe1987 ...
05:21 lwq_laptop wannabe you know its true
05:22 wannabe1987 ...
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06:00 wannabe-afk Druidic_Rifleman: http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moms-buttermilk-biscuits-2/detail.aspx
06:00 BotSteve Title: Mom's Buttermilk Biscuits Recipe - Allrecipes.com
06:01 Druidic_Rifleman cool
06:05 lwq_laptop THIS IS FUCKING CREEPY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpT01H1CReo&amp;feature=channel
06:05 BotSteve Title: The Thought Experiment - YouTube
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06:06 dr_jkl lol
06:06 dr_jkl that was funny,.
06:06 dr_jkl INTERNET DRAMA
06:06 dr_jkl omg.
06:06 Druidic_Rifleman I am probly gonna log of and go for a walk... somone took a powertrip in the toronto hackerspace and I am Going through a panic attack PM me it on face book and when i get back i'll look when i get back and my hands stop shaking
06:10 Druidic_Rifleman I am out.
06:18 lwq_laptop im going to bed
06:18 lwq_laptop night
06:18 lwq_laptop see you later dr_jkl have fun
06:21 dr_jkl "nini
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06:30 wannabe-afk hi jkl
06:36 Sgt_Lemming lwq, it's simple physiology
06:37 Sgt_Lemming holding your fingers apart like that takes effort, so they want to move together
06:49 * exor674 hugs wannabe-afk and dr_jkl
06:50 wannabe-afk hi dredre
06:51 einball [A
06:51 einball wow
06:52 einball america - the only country where you may stand onto the enginebay without damaging some important part.
06:53 einball *USA
06:54 exor674 einball: well, there was nothing much left in the car at that point
06:54 einball well .. try that in germany. you may take the engine out and theres nothing left in there :D
06:55 einball and german engine bays are soo much smaller
06:56 einball dafuq? Your torque wrenches are rated in pound?? That sucks :D
06:57 einball (I like the sound of the mill in the background :D
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07:09 dr_jkl http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member
07:09 dr_jkl "Fuck
07:09 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group Labs in Minecraft | MissionDuke
07:09 dr_jkl Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | Subchannels, #Tgg:NSFW #Tgg:Controversial #Tgg:Guns
07:09 dr_jkl #Tgg:Astronomy and probably more.
07:09 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Topic: Member Blogs! Yay!
07:09 dr_jkl "dammit
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07:32 Druidic_Rifleman ahhh better
07:40 Druidic_Rifleman wow some people really take defending bigoted liberal hate way to far
07:48 Cprossu oh god.
07:49 Cprossu have you seen the latest captains blog?
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman th one for the19th yes
07:51 Druidic_Rifleman that all those zero smoke packs are counterfit bullshit psudoscinece products
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08:09 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu?
08:09 Cprossu ?
08:09 Hydroelectric Hi all.
08:10 einball hi Hydroelectric
08:10 Cprossu btw I just got done cleaning my new ceiling fan =)
08:10 Cprossu Cast Iron Hunter :D
08:11 Cprossu http://common1.csnimages.com/lf/49/hash/3137/662078/1/1.jpg
08:11 Cprossu 50lbs of ceiling fan!
08:11 angy morning everyone
08:15 Druidic_Rifleman what about the captains blog?
08:16 Cprossu the gibroni ribbing
08:16 Cprossu etc
08:16 Cprossu they're all going to hell lol
08:17 wannabe-afk geek party in hell?
08:22 Cprossu http://www.afcaforum.com/attachment.php?id=37701
08:22 Cprossu xD
08:23 Cprossu oil bath bearings for the win.
08:24 Cprossu http://www.hunterfan.co.uk/images/uploads/cross_section.jpg
08:25 Cprossu gotta love engineering made to last 100 years.
08:32 angy you know the other name for made in chine?
08:32 angy come tomorrow!
08:35 Druidic_Rifleman yeah i fogot he's going to the lab soon
08:35 Druidic_Rifleman i hateyou Cprossu
08:43 Electricguy i'm thinking about moving my computer desk..
08:43 Cprossu and I am thinking about how to crossbrace my ceiling so I can hang this fan somewhere
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08:49 Electricguy ok, time to move the computer desk! :D
08:49 Electricguy bbl!
08:54 Druidic_Rifleman Do you own the house
09:01 Druidic_Rifleman also wait till you get home from the lab
09:01 Druidic_Rifleman you might have some carpentry experence
09:04 HighMan_Sleep Morning all
09:05 Druidic_Rifleman hwy
09:05 Druidic_Rifleman hey
09:05 HighMan Anyone know how to fix a fan that needs about ~5 minutes sticking a toothpick in to the hole in which the light string comes out of to unpop it?
09:05 HighMan Then you can pull the wire to turn it on.
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09:33 Druidic_Rifleman WB
09:34 Electricguy thx
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09:38 Experimentonomen g'mornin geekpeepz
09:45 Druidic_Rifleman morning
09:45 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if i can get out to the tractor supply company and pick up a Ceder fence post before i pass out today
09:49 Experimentonomen hm
09:52 Experimentonomen blä
09:54 Hydroelectric1 Will hopefully be a new addition to my room: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-PowerBook-G3-400-Firewire-Pismo-Good-Condition-/230761573498?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Laptops_Notebooks&amp;hash=item35ba762c7a#ht_1787wt_1139
09:54 BotSteve Title: Apple PowerBook G3 400 (Firewire/Pismo) (Good Condition) | eBay
09:56 Electricguy half crappy pic of the moved computer desk http://i.imgur.com/UVGEk.jpg
09:57 BitViper is the other half any good ?
09:57 Hydroelectric1 Electricguy Not bad.
09:57 Electricguy yes. much better
09:57 Electricguy @ BitViper
09:57 Electricguy hydro, good enough :P
09:57 Hydroelectric1 I see you have a fan speed control on the tower?
09:57 Electricguy yes
09:58 Electricguy vith VFD :3
09:58 BitViper that cant be your desk, its clean
09:58 Electricguy lol
09:58 Hydroelectric1 BitViper: Haha.
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10:04 Seroster Ahoy
10:06 Hydroelectric Hello there Seroster.
10:07 * Experimentonomen spots a empty pc chassie in Electricguy's pic
10:07 Electricguy a junky fractal design R1
10:07 Electricguy my old chassie
10:08 Experimentonomen a junky chassie is better than no chassie ;)
10:08 Experimentonomen its prolly better than the fujitsu siemens scaleo600 chassie i have
10:12 Electricguy lol. no way
10:12 Electricguy fractal design make crap..
10:12 Electricguy very poor mechanical construction and shitty materials
10:15 Druidic_Rifleman i should walk around south end in Black slacks a fitted shirt Sweater vest...
10:19 Experimentonomen Electricguy, that sounds like the chassie i smash in one of my vidz
10:19 Electricguy lol
10:19 Electricguy yeah
10:19 Electricguy i don't know why fractal design chassies are so popular..
10:19 Electricguy they suck ass!
10:20 Experimentonomen prolly for looks
10:20 Experimentonomen and possibly the name
10:21 Electricguy yeah
10:21 Electricguy my in Win chassie is really nice though
10:21 Electricguy very well built
10:23 Experimentonomen i wonder if a chassie can be too well built
10:23 Electricguy nah :P
10:23 Electricguy Lian Li chassies are damn good
10:23 Electricguy but expensive as fuck too....
10:24 Experimentonomen i remember back when the lian li chassi was all the rage for every gamer in existance
10:24 Electricguy lol
10:24 Experimentonomen everyone had them it seemed, and i had some crappy Aopen chassie
10:26 Experimentonomen hm my pc parts were sorted in sundsvall around 5 in the morning today, maybe with a stroke of luck, i'll be able to go get them after 16:00 today
10:27 Druidic_Rifleman Ok this is going to sound derp... whats the best way to look apealing to a mugger???
10:30 Experimentonomen having lots of pockets and seemingly carry lots of expensive looking stuff and having a fat wallet
10:30 Experimentonomen :P
10:31 Druidic_Rifleman Hmmm should of had my 99 dollar head phone's and ipod out ...
10:31 Druidic_Rifleman ALSO
10:31 Druidic_Rifleman if you wanna have someone try and mug you
10:32 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.armynavymilitarysurplus.com/images/product/1343.jpg
10:32 Druidic_Rifleman don't wair that
10:32 Druidic_Rifleman for some reason it scare's mugger's off
10:33 Experimentonomen i used to have a teeshirt from the german security agency
10:33 BitViper dress like a rich old lady
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman won't work
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman thinking a sweatervest
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman least in the winter
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman also...
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman I am wondering
10:35 Druidic_Rifleman Why is no wondering why i'd want to use my self as mugger bait?
10:35 Experimentonomen i wonder how appealing to muggers i'll be when my headphone amp is done and im out walking with it strapped to my left arm and some old rasor & tinker headphones on my head, looking like some airport dude
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10:36 Experimentonomen g'day hydropower
10:41 Seroster Ahoy hydro
10:41 Seroster Timing fail
10:41 Electricguy HAHHAAH! 4chan ftw XD http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295403_319202681468323_176890359032890_795441_403060862_n.jpg
10:41 Seroster LOL electricguy
10:43 HighMan An eye for an eye makes the world____
10:43 Electricguy yeah. that totally makes the world underscore!
10:44 HighMan No.
10:44 HighMan It makes the world monocular!
10:45 Druidic_Rifleman OK every one knows thosephoto's wehre it's like this is what The media thinks i do this is what my parrentsthink?
10:45 Druidic_Rifleman Does that have an actualname?
10:46 HighMan electricguy: XD Funny picture
10:49 Electricguy lulz XD http://i.imgur.com/F1cGP.jpg
10:51 Seroster HighMan, not monocular.
10:51 Seroster An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
10:51 Seroster Mahatma Gandhi, (attributed)
10:51 HighMan I know :P
10:51 Seroster ...
10:51 Seroster Go eat an exoskeleton, bastard.
10:51 HighMan It was a quote from crashcourse with John Green
10:51 HighMan Seroster, I do'nt eat bones.
10:52 Seroster I'd argue that a spider doesn't have bones.
10:52 Electricguy don't*
10:52 Seroster Spider, singular, does.
10:53 Seroster Anyway. Cya
10:53 Electricguy that was aimed to highbaby's typo :)
10:53 Electricguy cya sero
10:53 Seroster Penis.
10:53 angy kuk
10:54 Druidic_Rifleman "of all the misdeeds by the british crown committed upon the people of india Depriving an entire nation of arms will be seen as the blackest" Mahatma Gandhi
10:55 * Experimentonomen häller klipulver i angys brallor
10:55 angy you wish
11:00 Druidic_Rifleman angy what i don't speak non american
11:05 Experimentonomen Druidic_Rifleman, u dont wanna know anyways :P
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman ah
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman I am gonna go try and get mugged layter
11:07 Experimentonomen so is anyone in here up to anythin ingterestin today ?
11:07 Experimentonomen why do u wanna get mugged ?
11:08 Experimentonomen it usually ends in the ER
11:08 Druidic_Rifleman Cause i am that bored
11:09 Experimentonomen hm
11:10 Experimentonomen when im uber bored i just take a 8-10km walk :P
12:04 mantere Spring = wet feets
12:04 Electricguy spring = a helical form of steel
12:04 Electricguy ;)
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12:21 Experimentonomen im gonna go for a walk
12:21 Experimentonomen bbl
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13:45 Druidic_Rifleman derp
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13:56 VictrolaWax morning
13:56 VictrolaWax Ya'll
13:57 VictrolaWax ??????
13:57 Experimentonomen back
13:58 VictrolaWax welcome
13:58 Experimentonomen g'day old radio
13:58 VictrolaWax g'day
13:58 mantere new cb
13:59 VictrolaWax what brand
13:59 Experimentonomen captains blog :P
13:59 VictrolaWax oh
14:00 VictrolaWax corey with lawn mower epic
14:01 VictrolaWax old knob and tube wirng
14:03 Druidic_Rifleman .... corey is allowed to handle gas operated yart tools....???? is that safe?
14:03 angy if you're not in the next 20 miles, yes
14:04 VictrolaWax lol
14:04 Cprossu ^ If you are upwind from him you'll at least be spared, if you're a few miles away when it ignites you won't be vaporized by the heatflash
14:08 VictrolaWax Chris should find a waterproof Camera
14:15 Druidic_Rifleman what does chriss not have like pair of spy glasses's with acamerain them
14:17 Druidic_Rifleman soooo i didn't get mugged on my walk :(
14:28 Sgt_Lemming http://amultiverse.com/files/comics/2012-03-20-Dick-And-Duck.png <--- heh
14:44 BitViper i think chris made a new record short cb
14:44 Druidic_Rifleman Sadly
14:45 Druidic_Rifleman :( i wanted to help with the GH5 demo :(
14:45 BitViper it took me longer to load the thing than to play it
14:46 Druidic_Rifleman it's kinda sad how short it was
14:49 Druidic_Rifleman :( so i had no luck getting mugged :( apparently it's harder to do then you think :(
14:49 Experimentonomen i think i've seen shorter
14:49 Experimentonomen i remember back in the days when the main TGG videos were like 0.5-3 minutes long
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14:51 DruidicSniper internet is being derp
14:51 Experimentonomen interderp ;)
14:51 Experimentonomen or derpnet :P
14:52 Seroster Oh the irony.
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14:58 Experimentonomen g'afternoon sparky
14:58 Seroster Ello SparkyProjects
14:58 SparkyProjects Hi
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15:03 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: shortest CB's, search for 'slate', there are 2 of them, this is the shortest
15:03 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiEqFwxVArI
15:03 BotSteve Title: Slate Fail - YouTube
15:05 BitViper for you minecrafters, this will blow your mind ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgJfVRhotlQ
15:05 BotSteve Title: Minecraft Scientific/Graphing calculator - Sin Cos Tan Log Square root - YouTube
15:18 Sgt_Lemming http://hsbne.org/projects/SNARC <--- uploaded a schematic for the board
15:18 BotSteve Title: hsbne.org
15:24 Experimentonomen BitViper, i'd say that guy works with logic circuits as a daytime job, theres no way an average individual like us would be able to make something like that
15:28 BitViper Experimentonomen : i figure that was most likely done by someone who does hardware level processor design for a living, however all the necessary information to do that is redily available online and i think most any nerd could figure it out with enough time. the individual building blocks arent all that hard
15:29 BitViper whoever built that also either has too much time on their hands or else has a time machine
15:30 Sgt_Lemming or a level editor
15:31 Experimentonomen BitViper, i cant even make a fucking RSNOR latch even WITH the instructions on my second monitor while ingame
15:31 BitViper even an editor would take for friggin ever to build that, even if you knew right off the top of your head all the block configurations for all the different logic gates
15:32 BitViper Experimentonomen LOL, ya need more practice dood =)
15:32 BitViper go find the original door to the big complex in our chaos world, there's a couple of gates buried there to open and close the door
15:33 Experimentonomen i even tried to replicate my piston door i built on your old chaos server that i based off the one you built, i failed
15:34 Experimentonomen but then again i suck at redstone
15:34 BitViper does require a good understanding of redstone and basic digital electronics
15:35 Experimentonomen i get dumber for each day that passes
15:35 BitViper i want to build an fpga in mc
15:36 Sgt_Lemming so you can program while you program while you program?
15:37 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : hehehehe yep, and if you make a cpu with the fpga ......
15:37 Experimentonomen BitViper, i lost everything in  the last hdd crash, including most of my real life electronics design stuff
15:37 BitViper Experimentonomen : forgot to backup again eh ? =(
15:38 Experimentonomen i havent soldered a component since before the lappycrash
15:38 Experimentonomen all i have left is what i have uploaded to imgur.com
15:38 BitViper we need jeri back to refill our brains
15:39 Experimentonomen aint jeri still around ?
15:39 Experimentonomen i thought she only changed the name from FMCG to NerdLab
15:39 BitViper she's "around", but she's not doing live stream that i know of and not putting out videos that ive seen
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15:40 angy .cookie egrsteve_
15:40 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve_, I baked you a pecan cookie!
15:40 * egrsteve_ is having ssh issues
15:40 egrsteve_ server is MIA
15:40 Experimentonomen i've seen her put up videos alittle now and then through my sub box
15:40 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve http://hsbne.org/projects/SNARC
15:40 BotSteve Title: hsbne.org
15:42 egrsteve_ Sgt_Lemming: why did you charlieplex the LEDs when it uses 2 IOs to drive them either way?
15:43 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, because I can use 2 5v LED's, and doesn't need any other connections other than those two pins
15:44 egrsteve_ I figured add a resistor and tie them to a power rail for more flexibility
15:44 yNos egrsteve_: issues?
15:44 egrsteve_ or just tie to a power rail if 5v leds
15:44 Sgt_Lemming where exactly am I going to fit said resistor?
15:45 yNos egrsteve_: we are rsyncing from ynos.us to the lab.. soaking most of the upload.
15:45 egrsteve_ ah ok
15:45 egrsteve_ I couldn't even get a response on PING!
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15:45 Sgt_Lemming yNos, you should check out that page as well
15:45 yNos [Lag: 8.81]
15:45 Sgt_Lemming all the docco I have done on the SNARC so far :-D
15:45 egrsteve_ I don't see a board layout so I can't answer that or look into it
15:46 Sgt_Lemming ah, sorry
15:47 egrsteve_ also a lot of my designs end up being smd so I tend to pack them in tight
15:47 egrsteve_ I have given up on auto routing most projects as it fails
15:47 Sgt_Lemming this one is PTH so it's as easy as possible to home etch and drill the PCB's
15:47 Sgt_Lemming not to mention it means it's easier for noobs to solder together
15:47 egrsteve_ fair enough
15:48 Sgt_Lemming I am working on an SMD version
15:48 egrsteve_ if you can hold the detail a single side smd is easier to homebrew
15:48 yNos grammar check pls: http://ynos.us/woodtv-cover-letter.html
15:48 egrsteve_ but holding the detail is very hard
15:48 BotSteve Title: Craig Bailey | Unix Administrator, Network Administrator | ynos@ynos.us
15:48 Experimentonomen i made a double sided board ones that was a mix of smd and through hole
15:49 egrsteve_ ynos your server is DOSed
15:49 BitViper oh no, woodtv is doooooomed
15:49 egrsteve_ (not ddos just dos)
15:49 angy works just fine here :)
15:50 egrsteve_ it works but it's slpw
15:50 egrsteve_ *slow
15:50 Experimentonomen yNos, did you actually for real spend 4 hours nonstop rubbing a file against bat's engine block and head ?
15:50 yNos good thing it is all text ;)
15:50 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5722378173750403202
15:50 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
15:50 tlockley yNos: "I have designed and supported mult-thousand account email servers." i think you ment "multi"?
15:50 yNos yes
15:50 yNos oop
15:50 Sgt_Lemming lo tlockley
15:50 tlockley hey Sgt_Lemming, thats really cool your RFID project
15:50 Sgt_Lemming thanks dude
15:50 angy you can go with mutt-thousands :p
15:51 Sgt_Lemming it's nice to see it coming together
15:51 Experimentonomen yNos, you are a true dedicated mechanic ;)
15:51 tlockley yNos: beyond that one missing i, I think everything is well written. I would however research if woodtv should be capitalized (prooper noun and all)
15:52 tlockley *propper (see i cant spell too)
15:52 yNos Experimentonomen: a few beers and some loud techno helped me along
15:52 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, that side of the boad is pretty packed, I could move the main IC down, but fsck that
15:52 Sgt_Lemming also I need to keep some area clear for labels etc
15:52 yNos hmm.. https://banu.com/blog/42/openbsd-bug-in-the-random-function/
15:52 BotSteve Title: OpenBSD bug in the random() function - Banu Blog
15:52 Sgt_Lemming yNos, you take a look at those videos and everything?
15:53 Experimentonomen yNos, i would have taken the whole god damed engine out and put the damn thing in the sheet router :P
15:53 yNos looks lowercase here.. http://www.woodtv.com/
15:53 BotSteve Title: WOOD TV8 | News, Weather, Sports and Traffic for Grand Rapids and West Michigan
15:53 yNos and uppercase in the title..
15:53 angy Yay! a bug in OBSD!
15:53 yNos iirc, sheet router only has 30ish cm of Z movement.
15:54 DruidicSniper erp
15:54 DruidicSniper they finnally found my paperwork at the court house...
15:54 egrsteve_ no it's more like 20-25 ish
15:54 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I have a board ready for you btw
15:54 Sgt_Lemming one of the prototypes I mean
15:55 DruidicSniper Why the boarder officer couldn't of asked for me to prove obama was a natural born citizen instead.... it would of been sooo much easyer to get obama's long form hawaian birth cert
15:55 egrsteve_ (assuming it isn't forged) ;)
15:56 Experimentonomen yNos, easy workaround: remopve table, put engine on pallet jack, roll it in under the frame and jack it up until the top of the block is slightly above table height :P
15:56 egrsteve_ there are steel braces under the table at regular intervals
15:56 egrsteve_ idk if it would fit between them
15:56 angy it would not, the structure for the table will be in the way
15:57 egrsteve_ then you would have to attach it to that bracing to make sure it can't move relative to the machine
15:57 BitViper DruidicSniper : does this mean you might be able to make the border idiot happy now ? maybe ?
15:57 DruidicSniper hopefully
15:57 Experimentonomen theres nothing and angle grinder couldent fix :P
15:57 BitViper yay
15:58 Experimentonomen then weld the thing back together when ur done :P
15:58 angy Moose wrath can't be fixed by an angle grinder
15:58 egrsteve_ or welder
15:59 yNos alright, time to get going
15:59 yNos later all
15:59 egrsteve_ ynos how long will you be at the lab today?
15:59 yNos not sure, i have a meeting about a possible contract job at 6ish
16:00 DruidicSniper I would not wanna see moose mad at someone
16:00 egrsteve_ ok, then I will probably miss you
16:00 egrsteve_ we need to try bending those antennas some time
16:01 BitViper egrsteve : finish putting that tuner together
16:04 BitViper hrm, in a schematic an OR gate with a double line at the base is an xor right ?
16:04 Experimentonomen yes
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16:13 egrsteve_ BitViper: i think you killed chat
16:14 * egrsteve_ hooks stomper to IRC via comcast
16:14 egrsteve_ this should be interesting
16:14 tlockley *clear*
16:14 egrsteve_ I wonder how far till fiber?
16:15 egrsteve_ only one way to find out
16:15 egrsteve_ charging to 6000
16:15 egrsteve_ *BOOM*
16:15 egrsteve_ hmm, about that far
16:18 BitViper egrsteve : i seem to have that tendancy, killing chat. maybe should go take my monthly shower
16:19 egrsteve_ that might be a good idea, I though I smelt something
16:20 Experimentonomen and the postal service does it again, they've had the whole day to get my package the 45 minute trip from where it is now up to be, but no they intentionally wait a day to ship it the final bit
16:20 egrsteve_ hmm, /me is repeatedly checking UPS tracking for package that shipped yesterday
16:21 egrsteve_ (and should arrive today)
16:21 egrsteve_ unless the truck gets blown up
16:21 egrsteve_ adn that would be unfortunate
16:21 Experimentonomen well im not really in any hurry since im likely not gonna put the new pc together right away anyways
16:22 egrsteve_ neither am I but I have parts in the order for other people too
16:22 * egrsteve_ explodes
16:23 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, can you see what I mean about having very little space on the board though?
16:24 egrsteve_ it does look fairly tight
16:24 * Sgt_Lemming nods
16:24 Sgt_Lemming that's a bit of an understatement :-P
16:25 BitViper tight is good
16:25 Sgt_Lemming it's 1.4" x 2.6" approx
16:28 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, you can see how the FET is set up in the schematic egrsteve, unless the IO pin it's connected to is driven high, it WILL be off
16:29 Sgt_Lemming the FET's I am using are rated to 12A at 100v continuous as well, so the chance of an inductive spike at shutdown causing one to fail short is slim to none
16:29 egrsteve_ is it a logic gate fet?
16:29 Sgt_Lemming yes
16:29 egrsteve_ ok
16:30 Sgt_Lemming heh, there is a gecko hiding under my pc, he's all of about an inch long
16:30 Sgt_Lemming mebe 2 including tail
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16:43 DruidicSniper pet gecko or the aussie version of a Chipmunk sneeking in the house gecko
16:43 Sgt_Lemming sneaking
16:43 DruidicSniper Ask him if he can save you money on car isurence
16:43 Sgt_Lemming probably nice and warm under there
16:43 Sgt_Lemming as my pc's psu exhausts hot air under the case
16:46 Sgt_Lemming sleep time for this lemming, night all
16:48 egrsteve_ night lemming
16:48 egrsteve_ (morning everyone else)
16:52 egrsteve_ time to go take an exam
16:53 GGR Consumers are reporting the iPad 3 gets too hot... I'll have the latest on that and much more coming up in about 8 minutes on The GGR! Please join me! http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
16:53 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
16:53 GGR -Mitch
17:03 DruidicSniper hey mitch
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17:04 DruidicSniper it's a wild zozo TAZER IT!!!!
17:05 Guest43106 ....
17:05 TGG-Zozo ...
17:05 DruidicSniper what...
17:05 DruidicSniper I got my pappers finally
17:05 Experimentonomen g'evenin zozo
17:05 DruidicSniper didn't have to sew them
17:06 Experimentonomen and wannabe1987
17:06 wannabe1987 there
17:06 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
17:06 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
17:06 TGG-Zozo yo
17:06 wannabe1987 wait, druid, you got your papers?
17:06 TGG-Zozo YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:06 DruidicSniper yeah
17:06 wannabe1987 oh noes
17:06 TGG-Zozo now leave tomorrow
17:06 DruidicSniper they have never asked for this much crap ever when i visit the US
17:08 TGG-Zozo how long ago was last time?
17:08 BitViper yeah head out tomorow so you can get here when cpro does
17:09 wannabe1987 ...
17:09 wannabe1987 i'm only picking cpro up
17:10 Katemonster (incidentally, she's not dropping him off afterward)
17:10 TGG-Zozo tuck and roll
17:10 DruidicSniper notsure where i amstaying now
17:10 wannabe1987 talk to chris/moose
17:10 wannabe1987 do they know you have papers?
17:11 TGG-Zozo i think i might have found a house
17:11 wannabe1987 yeah, but its not ready for immediate occupancy
17:11 TGG-Zozo 8bed 4 bath
17:12 BitViper zozo O_O wow. what not ready for immed ? and how much they want for that much space ?
17:12 BitViper is it like gh5 ?
17:12 TGG-Zozo 30k-40k
17:12 TGG-Zozo pre gutted
17:12 Seroster Ah
17:12 Seroster Finally a clean floor.
17:12 BitViper so just outside walls and frame ?
17:13 Seroster How's gh5 coming zozo?
17:13 DruidicSniper OW sudden volume busse GGR
17:13 wannabe1987 gh5 is in process of being gutted
17:13 wannabe1987 very dusty in there.  NOT FUN
17:13 Seroster Saw that yes.
17:13 Seroster Yeah. Wouldnt want to be in there without a mask, gypsum makes a fucking mess of your lunges.
17:13 wannabe1987 yes....masks were good
17:14 wannabe1987 was i in the cb?
17:14 BitViper yep
17:14 wannabe1987 kk
17:14 BitViper having done that stuff before, i wouldnt go in there w/o a real mask, one of those with the side filters
17:14 BitViper those paper things are worthless
17:14 wannabe1987 cory had a filter on his.
17:14 BitViper well, maybe not totally worthless, but
17:16 DruidicSniper Should i bring a military grade NBC resperator?
17:16 BitViper cory's mask looks like everyone elses to me
17:16 DruidicSniper Derp i'll be near corry
17:16 wannabe1987 no
17:17 BitViper DruidicSniper : perhaps
17:17 wannabe1987 druid: don't bring shit that'll get you int rouble
17:17 wannabe1987 and isn't your dad coming along?
17:17 BitViper DruidicSniper : lol, yeah, you'll need the mask for cory, not for the dust LOL
17:17 GGR Hey guys... GOOGLE has allowed one of their meetings to be recorded and we have the sound from it! I'm airing it next on Mitchell McCoy Today... please join me... I'm going back on in 1:59..58..57..56... you get the point... :) -Mitch
17:18 DruidicSniper My gas mask was legally purchased
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17:19 DruidicSniper mitch why did the volume get much louder suddenly
17:19 TGG-Zozo i had him change it
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17:24 GGR What ZoZo said, druidicsniper. -Mitch
17:25 DruidicSniper Warn peope
17:25 DruidicSniper Lol
17:25 DruidicSniper it hurt my ears
17:25 TGG-Zozo warning the volume changed
17:25 TGG-Zozo there ya go
17:25 TGG-Zozo =)
17:25 DruidicSniper LOL
17:25 DruidicSniper thats like firing thumper
17:25 Experimentonomen set levels to indicate 0dB on the meters :P
17:25 DruidicSniper and a minute laytor "warning i fired thumper"
17:26 GGR Sorry, DruidicSniper... we're working on a better system so we won't have volume changes on the stream. It's all one level. -Mitch
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17:30 wannabe1987 DruidicSniper, why would we warn people?  lol
17:30 DruidicSniper So my ear drums don't get dammaged
17:30 Experimentonomen thats ur fault fer having volume turned up :P
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17:31 Experimentonomen g'evenin mashie
17:31 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg!
17:32 * lwq_laptop is a lil down
17:32 wannabe1987 its understandable hun
17:33 DruidicSniper Derp... I really wish that my plans we're not fucked up
17:33 DruidicSniper Going feb 17th would be much better
17:33 wannabe1987 off to work now
17:33 wannabe1987 bye
17:34 mashpriborintorg hiya
17:34 lwq_laptop i wish i had a gun to school people with
17:34 * mashpriborintorg having some brocoli
17:34 lwq_laptop shoot*
17:34 lwq_laptop damn auto correct
17:35 mashpriborintorg we have a guy here who did actually do it here, lwq_laptop
17:35 GGR Sorry about this song playing. The audio is bad on it... -Mitch
17:36 lwq_laptop hi mitch :D
17:36 GGR Hi, lwq_laptop! How are you today? -Mitch
17:36 lwq_laptop no
17:36 DruidicSniper I was fasly accused of it
17:36 lwq_laptop damn ipod
17:37 lwq_laptop im doing horrible
17:37 DruidicSniper the cops we're lucky i was un armed...
17:37 GGR Well... I hope your day gets better!
17:37 DruidicSniper and that it was a false accusation
17:38 lwq_laptop i hope it will too :/ though sunday will make me feel better
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17:38 mashpriborintorg hey, we are doing the front page onto cnn.com :p
17:39 lwq_laptop your a website maker?
17:39 Seroster I didnt know that he owns a website maker.
17:39 mashpriborintorg no... speaking about the news
17:40 Seroster YOUR website maker is a belonging, You're would be if mashpriborintorg is.
17:40 lwq_laptop oh shut u not in the mood
17:41 Seroster Sorry, but saying your instead of you're is petarded.
17:41 DruidicSniper LOL
17:41 lwq_laptop so is bitching about it
17:42 DruidicSniper yes seroster Animal right's terrorism IS retarded
17:42 Seroster Nah, now you confuse being a prick with being petarded. =)
17:42 lwq_laptop im on an ipod, im going to write qs little as possible
17:42 Seroster DruidicSniper, That isn't a typo, that's a family guy reference.
17:44 GGR Continuing to follow breaking news this afternoon... a scientist selling classified information to Israel. I'll have the latest next on The GGR. -Mitch
17:44 egrsteve hello again
17:45 egrsteve test is done
17:45 lwq_laptop im going to go, catch yall later
17:45 tlockley cya lee
17:45 egrsteve and remember the #1 rule of scantrons in use a dull pencil
17:45 tlockley amen to that
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17:49 GGR Our voiceovers come from Alabama.
18:03 * egrsteve check ups tracking, again
18:03 egrsteve still not delivered
18:04 mashpriborintorg I hate so much being delivered by ups, everytime they knock while I'm not at home
18:06 mashpriborintorg and their local offices are far away it's not convenient for pick up
18:06 Experimentonomen ups sucks, overpriced and too often breaks stuff
18:07 mashpriborintorg at least with the regular postal service, I can pick up the parcels at the office near me
18:10 egrsteve well shipping was $10 for a bunch of 8ft long stuff so I can't complain
18:10 Electricguy lulz! :D http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560360_326565590726087_119617241420924_785179_947757520_n.jpg
18:11 egrsteve I'm sure the ups guy at the lab is going to love me
18:12 egrsteve with the double entrance doors
18:18 Electricguy ehm!? http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/485368_405063019523157_205344452828349_1469099_478178142_n.jpg
18:18 Electricguy XD
18:20 Experimentonomen o_O
18:22 Electricguy Pen is* ;)
18:28 Seroster Lol
18:30 Seroster Experimentonomen, electricguy, I saw a car from TreLingon outside, nobody in it, nobody near it, lights on, door open and engine running.   I SO wanted to snatch it.  (Just two boneheads throwing out a bunch of teens who were smoking in the school playground)
18:30 Electricguy hehehe okey :P
18:33 Experimentonomen hm
18:34 * egrsteve does not want to be at school today
18:34 Experimentonomen driving a car is alot harder than sounds like
18:34 egrsteve still not delivered
18:34 Seroster I know, Experimentonomen.
18:34 Experimentonomen egrsteve, call in sick ;)
18:34 egrsteve it is?
18:34 egrsteve but I am there already
18:35 Experimentonomen tell them ur feelin ill, then go home ;)
18:36 egrsteve but I don't want to go home
18:36 Experimentonomen hm
18:36 egrsteve I got in early so I will leave early
18:36 egrsteve (I work at school too)
18:36 Experimentonomen hm
18:36 egrsteve and work pays moneys
18:36 egrsteve besides my package has yet to arrive
18:37 Experimentonomen maybe tomorrow
18:37 egrsteve tomarrow I do real work (not at school)
18:37 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
18:38 egrsteve but get out at 4:30 so I will have time for a bike ride so it will be ok
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18:38 Electricguy evening Chipguy
18:39 Electricguy and howdy mashpriborintorg and IsopropylAlcohol
18:39 Chipguy evening electricguy
18:39 Experimentonomen g'evenin alcohol guy ;)
18:39 IsopropylAlcohol allo
18:39 Chipguy and hey all others
18:44 * egrsteve grabs a lighter
18:44 BitViper wheee, i have my first building block for making an fpga in minecraft :)
18:44 IsopropylAlcohol :d
18:44 IsopropylAlcohol yay
18:44 BitViper just finished a simple LUT
18:45 Electricguy Laughing Universal Terrorist?
18:45 BitViper lol, look up table
18:45 Electricguy ahh!
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18:56 * egrsteve has a bad case of ADD today
18:56 Experimentonomen .cookie egrsteve
18:56 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
18:57 egrsteve cookies are good but that do not help ADD
18:57 egrsteve although caffene might
18:58 egrsteve maybe I need to find some soda
18:58 IsopropylAlcohol yaydsvicta
18:59 IsopropylAlcohol yayndsvirtualdesktop
19:00 IsopropylAlcohol lol spacebar fails
19:05 Electricguy is it good if this appears on google when you search for velleman K8055 thermometer? http://www.best-offer.eu/8755-8646-large/k8055-snake-skin-pattern-men-sexy-taste-t-back-g-string-underpants.jpg
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19:11 hhrlisa Howdy
19:12 SweetTooth joined #thegeekgroup
19:12 lwq_laptop hi
19:13 hhrlisa hi
19:14 * egrsteve is hungry, pi time
19:14 egrsteve (edt)
19:14 hhrlisa I need to redo my nails
19:14 egrsteve sadly I lack pie
19:15 hhrlisa go get pie
19:15 egrsteve I think I have a cookie
19:15 egrsteve so that might have to do
19:18 hhrlisa .cookie
19:18 BotSteve Here you go, hhrlisa, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
19:18 hhrlisa .cookie egrsteve
19:18 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
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19:25 lwq_laptop hmmm this seems lodgical http://onestopfunny.com/best-way-to-increase-download-speed_239.html
19:25 BotSteve Title: Best way to Increase Download Speed - onestopfunny.com
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19:27 hhrlisa someone pick a number between one and 3
19:29 lwq_laptop 1
19:30 Chipguy 2
19:30 hhrlisa never mind i picked already
19:30 Electricguy then why did you ask? ;P
19:31 hhrlisa well heres my delema i have four colors of nail polish. one ive tried already.. and i didn't know which to try next...
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19:31 hhrlisa i still don't even know if i want the one i picked or not
19:31 Electricguy i'm so glad i'm a guy.. XD
19:32 hhrlisa heres the colors i have cruel intentions (thats the one i already tried), love hurts, ice queen, and killer instincts.
19:33 mashpriborintorg lol
19:33 hhrlisa they're really interesting too. theyre duel polish.. one base color with a crackle top..
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19:39 hhrlisa choices choices
19:41 Experimentonomen .cake hhrlisa
19:41 BotSteve Here you go, hhrlisa, I baked you an orange and ginger cake!
19:41 hhrlisa lol
19:44 Electricguy yeyy. why buy a thermometer when you can make one?
19:44 Electricguy i got a Arduino based one..
19:44 Electricguy with a 2x16LCD
19:44 Electricguy same thing as i've made before
19:44 Electricguy only difference it; this one is actually going to be sed :)
19:44 Electricguy used*
19:44 Experimentonomen how do u know its accurate and linear and all that ? :P
19:45 Electricguy it's calculating the value from the NTC to give the right output
19:45 Electricguy the reference value is tweaked to match my NTC
19:46 Electricguy and the code is made to compensate the non linear-ness of NTCs :P
19:46 Electricguy of course it's not SPOT ON.. but good enough :)
19:47 Electricguy it's going to measure the outside temp.. so yeah.. XD
19:48 Experimentonomen i wonder if a 68MHz vacon oven compensated xtal oscillator module is of any use, i imagine that if its divided down to a for me usable frequency, the accuracy should actually go up by the number of times i divided it
19:48 Electricguy i'm going to have a "regular" thermometer to the side of it in the beginning to see if they match
19:48 Electricguy divide it down to 1Hz and build a clock
19:49 Experimentonomen i dont have that many 4013's :P
19:49 Experimentonomen in fact i have none
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19:50 injektion I got a pic that will probably send shivers down masterofmonks's spine
19:51 Experimentonomen heh
19:53 astro73|alice somebody has the title of "Science". i have no idea why
19:56 injektion For those of you wondering here it is http://goput.it/czn.jpg
19:57 egrsteve WTF http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/woman-falls-off-pier-while-texting?hpt=us_bn6
19:57 BotSteve Title: Woman falls off pier while texting | WOOD TV8
19:58 tlockley injektion: that a lot of… oxidizer?
19:58 astro73|alice what's 3077?
19:58 injektion It's also what's?on the floor too
19:59 injektion UN 30779Environmentally hazardous substance, solid, n.o.s. (not including waste)
19:59 hhrlisa people are stupid
19:59 Electricguy dang! the NTC i found doesn't work good on lower temps
19:59 astro73|alice and 2465/2468?
19:59 Electricguy it shows 4C when it's 8C outside
20:00 injektion astro73|alice, dichlor and trichlor
20:00 astro73|alice meep
20:01 astro73|alice chemical plants are scary
20:01 injektion astro73|alice, What's on the floor is trichlor
20:02 tlockley injektion: why so much chems?
20:02 injektion Because one filling line is supposed to output 250,000 pounds a day
20:02 tlockley dayum
20:03 astro73|alice that's a lot
20:04 astro73|alice what kind of chemicals?
20:05 injektion Too many to list
20:05 astro73|alice any particular genre?
20:06 astro73|alice or just "anything we can make money on"?
20:06 injektion ^ and anything related to pool chemicals
20:06 hhrlisa i wish i was ambidextrious
20:06 astro73|alice ohai. i might have used some of your stuff
20:06 astro73|alice we've got an AG pool
20:07 injektion What brand of chemicals?
20:07 astro73|alice i don't remember off-hand
20:07 injektion Where did you buy them?
20:08 astro73|alice pools plus?
20:08 injektion BioGuard?
20:10 astro73|alice don't think so
20:11 injektion Then no you did not
20:12 astro73|alice hmm... let me ask
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20:15 wannabe-work .
20:16 astro73|alice oh, we use leslie's
20:19 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
20:21 wannabe-work doesn't work on freenode, steve, but thanks.
20:22 hhrlisa KELLY
20:22 egrsteve it still feels nessisary even if it won't ping
20:22 egrsteve deng or make other sounds
20:22 * egrsteve hids a claxon in wannabe-work s computer
20:24 wannabe-work LISA
20:25 hhrlisa yay
20:28 hhrlisa not sure if i like this color
20:31 astro73|alice black?
20:31 astro73|alice white?
20:31 hhrlisa ice queen
20:32 hhrlisa blue sparkley with a white crakle over it.  i guess its not bad
20:32 wannabe-work nails?
20:32 * mashpriborintorg checking Pantone color chart
20:32 hhrlisa yes
20:32 hhrlisa ill clear coat it and see hwo it looks
20:33 astro73|alice girls.
20:34 hhrlisa :D
20:35 wannabe-work i don't like nail polish
20:35 wannabe-work what you talkin bout, willis?
20:35 hhrlisa lulz
20:35 hhrlisa i don't like hair spray
20:35 hhrlisa or blow drying my hair
20:37 wannabe-work ITS HOT AT WORK
20:37 wannabe-work WHY IS IT SO HOT
20:37 wannabe-work zomg
20:37 wannabe-work .tfw 49426
20:37 wannabe-work ...
20:37 hhrlisa .tfw 49509
20:37 BotSteve 85 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Hudsonville, MI!  'So hot my dog developed sweat glands.'
20:37 BotSteve 86 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'TAKE IT OFF!'
20:38 wannabe-work O.o
20:38 hhrlisa lol take it off... ok
20:38 mashpriborintorg Time to sleep bye
20:38 wannabe-work i can't scrubs stay on till after work :P
20:38 wannabe-work bye frenchie!
20:38 wannabe-work and....
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20:38 wannabe-work my bread was moldy i ate some will i die from it?  or get sick?
20:39 hhrlisa how do you make botsteve do the * thing..  like *hhrlisa likes botsteve
20:40 wannabe-work you do /me
20:40 * wannabe-work does that
20:40 wannabe-work see?
20:40 wannabe-work anyway
20:40 wannabe-work back to work
20:40 wannabe-work my 30 min is up
20:40 wannabe-work bye!
20:40 * hhrlisa wants fun
20:40 hhrlisa yay
20:40 hhrlisa thanks
20:43 astro73|alice fun?
20:43 astro73|alice >.>
20:44 hhrlisa mmhmm
20:45 * hhrlisa isn't sure if she likes this color
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21:07 GGR Zozo is about to hijack the radio for a bit
21:08 Electricguy hmmm. only 96kb/s today?
21:08 GGR some skipping issues
21:09 GGR We lowered it to 96kb/s to prepare for mobile streaming. -Mitch
21:09 Electricguy ahh okey! cool
21:10 Electricguy hmmm i need to build a 48V PSU
21:12 Electricguy hang on! lol
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21:13 GGR ZoZo has hijacked The GGR. Join him in on conversations by listening in now! Listen LIVE: http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/   -Mitch
21:13 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
21:14 Electricguy i have no idea how weird music you got on the GGR, but i would like to hear Warp Brothers - We will survive
21:14 Electricguy old classic :P
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21:28 GGR non oldies playing on the ggr while Zozos-Hijack is happening
21:30 GGR if anyone wants to help expand the music collection contact guardianzozo on email (guardianzozo@thegeekgroup.org) or send me a message on irc
21:31 Electricguy do you have something electronic with a touch of 8-bit? :P
21:31 GGR not on my cds i had brought up here
21:31 GGR and the new server isnt finished yet
21:32 Electricguy mkay
21:54 Experimentonomen *dunk**dunk**dunk**dunk*
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21:55 Experimentonomen g'day joe
21:55 Experimentonomen g'evenin*
21:59 Experimentonomen whats with the swearing ?
22:02 GGR swearing?
22:03 Experimentonomen chris raging on a song cutting off :P
22:05 Electricguy silence
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22:06 Experimentonomen g'evenin tlockley
22:06 tlockley evening Experimentonomen
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22:06 Experimentonomen g'evenin dbshortwave
22:07 dbshortwave Hiya Experimentonomen
22:08 Chipguy nite electricguy and all others
22:08 Electricguy night night Chipguy :)
22:09 Experimentonomen wutz dbshortwave up to ?
22:10 GGR Chris Boden is on The GGR...
22:10 Electricguy ggr got a clipping mic! XD
22:10 dbshortwave well... diagnosing if i have a shit video card .. i keep getting an error in a game and if i run the on board i dont have the error .. just that the machine dogs down running onboard
22:10 Experimentonomen i can tgell :P
22:10 Electricguy HAHHAA this is the best station evar! XD
22:11 Experimentonomen chris sounds like hbes in a bad mood :/
22:11 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, i know i have a shit videocard
22:11 GGR Chris is taking any questions through the IRC... begin asking!
22:12 dbshortwave pixilated?
22:12 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, ati radeon 9500PRO
22:12 Electricguy GGR, Chris! Y U NO have a AGC!? :P
22:12 GGR Tune into the GGR now: http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
22:12 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
22:12 Experimentonomen but tomorrow is the last time this system will power up/down
22:12 dbshortwave oh god now i have to tune in for this
22:12 Electricguy YES.
22:13 GGR Chris is about to take your questions. He will answer any of your questions now...
22:13 dbshortwave whats the link for GGR for winamp
22:13 dbshortwave i forgot what it was
22:13 GGR You can also call in and ask questions... 616-414-0844.
22:13 dbshortwave that wasnt for chris btw
22:14 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, looks like TGGR is stickam based
22:14 Electricguy dbshortwave, http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
22:14 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
22:14 Electricguy click the winamp icon maybe? :P
22:14 Electricguy and if you REALLY want the addy.. here it is http://69.80.224.243:8110
22:14 BotSteve Title: SHOUTcast Administrator
22:14 dbshortwave yeah i didnt have the link at the time
22:14 dbshortwave thank you
22:15 dbshortwave and no thats not stickam based its shoutcast lol
22:15 Experimentonomen for me is pops up the stickam website in windows media player
22:15 dbshortwave no
22:15 dbshortwave no mic 4 u
22:15 Electricguy LOLOLOL!! XD
22:15 dbshortwave rofl
22:15 tlockley lol
22:16 Electricguy THIS is awesome radio!
22:16 Experimentonomen lol
22:16 tlockley trolololol
22:16 Electricguy use webchat.freenode.net!
22:16 dbshortwave IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT AN IRC IS GET OFF THE INTER NET YOURE A HACK!
22:17 dbshortwave I WOULD OFFEND YOU
22:18 Electricguy STOP YELLING CHRIS!!!!!
22:18 Electricguy :D
22:18 tlockley How big was your drum set before it was broken?
22:18 tlockley correction stolen
22:18 Electricguy LOL
22:18 GGR The Captain is taking questions now! Tune in to The GGR... http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
22:18 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
22:19 Electricguy How old is Omni?
22:19 hhrlisa how tall are you really chris?
22:19 dbshortwave whos head is being bashed on the bench?
22:20 Experimentonomen that banging sounded just like a zombie beating on a door in minecraft :P
22:20 GGR WE NEED QUESTIONS!
22:20 Electricguy *opens the live stream*
22:20 tlockley Can you explain why combo xlr/trs ports frreak you out… you mentioned that in the captains blog when i sent you the zoom h4n
22:20 dbshortwave it would have been funny if you had said it was bills head
22:20 hhrlisa Hey Chris what d you like on your pizza
22:21 tlockley typed
22:21 hhrlisa ?
22:21 hhrlisa do*
22:21 Electricguy SOMETHING BITCHES!
22:21 hhrlisa Chris what do you like on your pizza?  ggr
22:21 GGR You can also call us right now... 616-414-0844
22:21 hhrlisa no.. i don't do calls..
22:22 GGR It'sa  question.
22:22 Experimentonomen LOLXD
22:22 Electricguy HAHAHA!
22:22 tlockley well that was fast
22:22 dbshortwave hey chris, have you ever gamed
22:23 dbshortwave well
22:23 dbshortwave never mind
22:23 Electricguy this is AWESOME on late evenings! LOL
22:23 dbshortwave the guy dont need any more peeps
22:23 dbshortwave FU radeon
22:24 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, tomorrow i get a new gfx card, cpu and mobo
22:24 dbshortwave the shit kicker is about this card ....
22:24 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/4pPjW.jpg <-- btw thats what the geek group radio looks like for me
22:24 dbshortwave it is new
22:24 dbshortwave ive got an HD5450 PCIe card
22:24 Electricguy no sane person use WMP
22:25 Electricguy btw.. i can hear windows sounds in the radio stream
22:25 dbshortwave rofl
22:25 Experimentonomen i dont like winamp, it stutters randomly, wmp, foobar2000 and otyhers doesent
22:25 Experimentonomen g'evenin kate
22:25 Katemonster hi expy
22:26 Electricguy i have never had ny probems with winamp
22:26 Electricguy problems*
22:26 Electricguy VLC is really damn awesome for radio streams though
22:26 Electricguy really stable
22:26 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, cprossu is the man to ask about computer issues
22:26 dbshortwave WMP is a pain in the ass
22:26 Electricguy i'm using VLC for my internet radio receiver machine.. have been stable for several days
22:27 Experimentonomen i've used WMP for years by now for all music
22:27 Electricguy foobar2000 is a real PITA when it comes to radio streams
22:27 Zozo so what do you guys think if the hijacking sofar?
22:27 Experimentonomen vlc for weird files no other softie can read
22:27 Electricguy zozo, it's great!
22:28 Experimentonomen Zozo, its hilarios :D
22:28 Electricguy the only thing i want to complain about is the low bitrate, lol.. otherwise it's good :)
22:28 tlockley GGR: are you going to get chis back?
22:29 Electricguy LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--A1UIWYqk&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2dc2ce2FUAAAAAAAAAA
22:29 BotSteve Title: Dinosaur Office: Computer Problems - YouTube
22:29 Zozo low bitrate will be corrected once we get AAC working
22:29 Electricguy ok! :)
22:29 Zozo and chris will be back when and if he wants too
22:29 dbshortwave say... how did batmans truck turn out
22:30 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, seen the latest few captains blogs ?
22:30 tlockley i saw chris' skinny ass on batmans engine, but no updates past that
22:30 dbshortwave i seen they had been putting the head back on
22:31 dbshortwave thats about it
22:31 Experimentonomen yNos did a hell of a filing job
22:31 tlockley it sounds like it
22:31 tlockley what was he filing again?
22:31 Experimentonomen i've never seen anyone use a file like that
22:31 Experimentonomen both head and block
22:32 hhrlisa lol ynos filing head...
22:32 * Electricguy pictures yNos putting a head into a file cabinet
22:33 hhrlisa lol not the head i was thinking of....
22:33 Electricguy hrm
22:35 Electricguy i need to buy new casette tapes...
22:35 GGR Tlockley: He might come back. He's at dinner right now.
22:36 dbshortwave lol
22:36 dbshortwave hes a 5' 10" 60 lb anorexic  with ADD
22:36 dbshortwave XD
22:37 hhrlisa lol chris right?
22:37 dbshortwave yeah
22:37 * Experimentonomen is the defenition of ADD :P
22:37 dbshortwave same here .
22:37 Zozo Zozo has ADOS
22:37 dbshortwave oh look Chevy emblem
22:37 Zozo attention deficit ooh shiny
22:37 dbshortwave what was i talking about ?
22:37 Experimentonomen i am a steaming pile of shit :P
22:38 dbshortwave sounds like me
22:38 dbshortwave im just a fat steaming pile of shit
22:38 Electricguy i'm so fucking awesome that you can't imagine how fucking awesome i REALLY AM!
22:39 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/k8wah.jpg <-- i even look like a steaming pile of shit and a asshole and a dick
22:40 Electricguy yes you do
22:40 Zozo lol
22:40 Electricguy i typed that just to aggree with you as i suppose that's what you wanted to hear
22:40 Electricguy agree*
22:41 Electricguy i look like.. well.. some average 19 year old dude.. XD http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420101_10150680561817490_757937489_9163895_1042870251_n.jpg
22:41 tlockley he is back!
22:41 dbshortwave lol
22:42 dbshortwave WHAT
22:42 dbshortwave use your man voice
22:43 GGR Your questions... answered now... by Chris Boden.
22:43 Electricguy HAHAHA!
22:43 tlockley Chris, this is Trevor from nantucket… Just for my own curiosity does video production actually use the SAN that i sent? I see it in the back with various red lights on when you are having chats with corey and co
22:43 dbshortwave do you online game and have you ever use steam
22:44 Experimentonomen is batmans truck running yet, chris ?
22:44 tlockley please for me....
22:45 hhrlisa Chris what do you like on your pizza
22:45 tlockley You are welcome
22:46 Experimentonomen lol
22:46 hhrlisa crust with sauce?
22:46 Experimentonomen i lov e shrimps on pizza, om nom nom
22:46 hhrlisa If you could pick one place in the world to visit where would it be?
22:46 Electricguy I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANYTHING CAUSE I WANT CHRIS WITHOUT PANTS.
22:47 Experimentonomen omglol Electricguy
22:47 Experimentonomen xD
22:47 dbshortwave rofl
22:47 Electricguy :D
22:47 hhrlisa TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS!!!!!
22:47 Electricguy what she said ^
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22:48 hhrlisa Chris can you just take off your pants. We'd prefer it
22:48 Electricguy LULZ!
22:48 tlockley Are you ever capable of not yelling chris?
22:48 dbshortwave Chris, what does the TGG have for tube parts.. im looking for a 55 watt push- pull  audio transformer
22:48 hhrlisa damnit I'm known. FUCK
22:49 hhrlisa Chris can you kiss Bill?
22:49 tlockley Mitch my name is Trevor
22:49 Electricguy Lisa got a kissing fetish! lol
22:50 tlockley mitch how old are you
22:50 hhrlisa aww booooo
22:50 hhrlisa No fun!
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22:51 dbshortwave damn
22:51 Electricguy HAHAH!
22:51 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, i built a 40 watt tubeamp :P
22:51 hhrlisa Chris will you tell us a secret about you?
22:53 tlockley well what the fuck
22:53 Electricguy LOL! http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556258_406352066060919_205344452828349_1471843_509056647_n.jpg
22:53 GGR MOAR Questions!
22:53 dbshortwave GGR is down
22:53 dbshortwave was down
22:53 JOE248 Greetings the geek group/ geek group radio
22:54 Experimentonomen hm
22:54 dbshortwave rofl
22:54 hhrlisa Chris what size shoe do you wear???
22:54 dbshortwave least i know im not the only one that opens mouth and pisses people off
22:56 hhrlisa I WILL!!!!
22:56 tlockley will arcturus ever get off the ground?
22:56 dbshortwave he lights farts
22:56 dbshortwave lmao
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22:56 hhrlisa I knew that. i demand another secret
22:56 dbshortwave HAHAHAHA
22:56 * BitViper dies laughing
22:57 hhrlisa What size is your bed??
22:57 dbshortwave OH GOD ....
22:57 Electricguy this is hilarious! XD
22:57 hhrlisa No I seriously knew that. Chris told me that himself
22:58 tlockley If you could own any tool what tool what would it be?
22:58 dbshortwave ever try Tennessee honey by Jack Danials (spelling sorry im tarded)
22:58 hhrlisa Full? like full of women? or the size full?
22:59 tlockley gotcha
22:59 GGR Someone needs to call in... 616-414-0844. You'll be able to join in on our conversation... live on the air!
22:59 dbshortwave hes got a shop full of them ...
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22:59 dbshortwave roflmao
22:59 JOE248 can you put on the cam geek group radio from mdh ?
22:59 tlockley hell yah i would love one of those
22:59 GGR No, sorry... Joe248
23:00 Electricguy LOLOLOL! XD
23:00 dbshortwave roflmao
23:00 dbshortwave oh god
23:00 hhrlisa this was awesome
23:00 dbshortwave HAHAHAHAHA
23:00 BitViper its not broadcast, the decency rules dont apply the same
23:01 Electricguy so damn funny :P
23:01 hhrlisa lol
23:01 dbshortwave yeah
23:02 Electricguy OH YES. 80's porno music!
23:02 BitViper LOL
23:02 JOE248 lol
23:02 hhrlisa after all those sexy chris questions you need 80s porn music
23:02 dbshortwave im about to pop onto minecraft ... cause its the only game i can currently fucking play on this card with out it screaming a memory error
23:02 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, my current machine cant even handle minecraft
23:02 BitViper dbshortwave where do you play ?
23:02 dbshortwave btw i ran memtest86 and the system ram passed with flying colors
23:02 Experimentonomen it barely handles tgg radio
23:03 Electricguy it's bcause your'e using windows fucking mediaplayer
23:03 dbshortwave i play on a friends server ...
23:03 Electricguy it's a damn resource hog
23:03 Experimentonomen nope
23:03 Electricguy it is
23:03 Electricguy it's known to be that
23:03 BitViper dbshortwave : i run my own too, feel free to join
23:04 JOE248 im useing winanp
23:04 dbshortwave ok
23:04 Experimentonomen in win xp yes, on win 7 u wouldent even know it was running
23:04 Electricguy winamp on this end too
23:04 tlockley VLC
23:04 dbshortwave dialog me the ip an such
23:04 BitViper although its a bit screwey at the moment thanks to the poor quality control of server mods =(
23:04 Electricguy winamp and VLC == pure awesomeness :)
23:04 dbshortwave ah
23:04 Electricguy the only thing winamp really sux at is video
23:05 JOE248 yes at times
23:05 tlockley i didnt know winap did video
23:05 Electricguy that's where VLC comes in :P
23:05 tlockley actually i just assumed that winamp was dead back in like 2001
23:05 Electricguy Winamp TRIES to do video. but usually you get only a audio track or only video with no audio
23:05 Experimentonomen last timre i used winamp was almost 10 years ago, watching some anime thing
23:06 Electricguy what i really like with winamp is that it got TONS of useful plugins
23:06 tlockley soooooo AOL bought winamp?
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23:07 Seroster Niptit schawwat
23:07 JOE248 ya try to play a blue ray with winamp and good luck
23:07 hhrlisa lol sero
23:07 Seroster Winamp? You're doomed.
23:08 Electricguy winamp works with audio.. but it totally shits crap when it comes to video
23:08 Seroster hhrlisa, It's not supposed to be offensive, it's just a great expression of misaligned shakra, "NIP-TIT-SCHAWWAT!"
23:08 Seroster Try it out, great thing to yell when frustrated.
23:08 hhrlisa i like it
23:09 Seroster Aye
23:10 Seroster Yell it at chris the next time you are in a blog.
23:10 hhrlisa lol i don't want to be in another blog
23:10 Seroster Why not?
23:10 hhrlisa i don't like how i look on cam
23:11 Electricguy bedtime! night all!
23:11 GGR yet you do the HHR show
23:12 hhrlisa thats different
23:12 hhrlisa its like a mirror
23:13 tlockley nice
23:13 tlockley that sounded sexy
23:14 tonsofpcs is GGR live?
23:14 hhrlisa what sunded sexy?
23:14 JOE248 yes
23:14 tonsofpcs tlockley: aol bought winamp before they bought time warner...
23:14 tonsofpcs what's on?
23:14 tlockley wow
23:14 tlockley chris was being interviewes
23:14 tonsofpcs like, winamp v2 was AOL
23:15 tlockley hey bill
23:15 tonsofpcs bill bill bill billproducer
23:15 JOE248 LOL
23:15 dbshortwave rofl
23:15 tonsofpcs Jun 1, 1999 there's an article about how they bought Nullsoft and Spinner
23:15 JOE248 yes the fire excape
23:16 JOE248 use*
23:17 tlockley i just wonder when AOL will fold
23:18 tonsofpcs they won't
23:18 tlockley to big to fail just like the banks
23:18 tonsofpcs they've acquired so many 'key' assets over the years that at worst they'll pull an AT&T and spin off each asset into its own company
23:18 dbshortwave im sure they will soon ... aol is assed out
23:18 dbshortwave why the need for aol anymore
23:18 dbshortwave dialup is dead
23:19 dbshortwave DSL is next
23:19 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: AOL owns a lot more than "America OnLine"
23:19 dbshortwave well time warner is aol
23:19 dbshortwave as is AOL is free
23:19 tonsofpcs erm, Time Warner hasn't been AOL for about 3 years
23:19 tonsofpcs ok, 2.25...
23:21 tlockley is AOL the parent to Time Warner?
23:22 tonsofpcs no, they broke off in December 2009
23:22 tonsofpcs technical problems?
23:23 tlockley its been off and on all night
23:23 dbshortwave yeah but they are still in bed with one another how do you think thwey keep going ... royaltys
23:23 tlockley I have a senaking suspicion that the stream computer is crap or the internet is being stomped
23:23 tlockley or both
23:23 tonsofpcs bofh.
23:24 GGR internet here kinda sucks
23:24 tlockley thats what i figured
23:24 GGR hence why its on 96k
23:24 GGR 92k*
23:24 tlockley TGG needs some serious bandwidth donated
23:27 JOE248 ya =why is the tgg useing comcast  they need a T1 or T3 SERIVECE
23:28 GGR um
23:28 GGR t1 is slower
23:28 tlockley i dont think T1 provides any more BW than bus. class cable
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23:28 tlockley bonded t1s maybe
23:28 tlockley but thats way out of budget for them
23:28 BitViper t1 is only 1.5 MBit
23:28 tonsofpcs tlockley: well... are they hitting a bandwidth ceiling or a packet rate ceiling?
23:29 BitViper what theyre hitting is throttling =(
23:29 tlockley comcast is shaping the fuck out of the upstream
23:29 GGR now a t1 for radio would be ok
23:29 BitViper yeah
23:29 tlockley they do it for all customers regardless of pay class
23:29 BitViper that is yeah to the comcast shaping
23:29 GGR-Zozo need more questiosn for chris
23:29 tonsofpcs we had major issues with packet rates due to streaming audio over cable.
23:30 GGR-Zozo im sure he will come back up at some point
23:30 tonsofpcs yNos: can you watch data rates and packet rates and see what's going on?  Our DOCSIS modem was dropping around 1k pps
23:31 hhrlisa im hungry
23:31 tonsofpcs I'm Eric, nice to meet you.
23:31 * hhrlisa is hungry
23:32 tlockley GGR-Zozo: ask him how they manage to do zomb in that razor filled escher painting of a building
23:33 tlockley atleast thats what it looks like from the outside
23:33 hhrlisa lol it does remind me of an escher painting
23:33 JOE248 ask chris what kind of mods he has done to his car and what gear he has inside
23:33 GGR-Zozo keep em comming  im making a list
23:34 tonsofpcs ask Omni instead :-p
23:35 tlockley GGR-Zozo: when will arcturus? (read: next largest tesla coil. I think that what the planned name was) get started
23:35 GGR-Zozo good one
23:35 hhrlisa ask him whe he plans on taking off his pants
23:35 tlockley you really want him pants less hhrlisa
23:35 hhrlisa :D
23:35 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: When will live video productions be underway and online?
23:36 GGR-Zozo and since ill be in the room with him im NOT asking about his pants...
23:37 GGR-Zozo =P
23:37 hhrlisa thats no fair
23:37 tlockley GGR-Zozo: if you have a mic shout out, i dont know what you sound like
23:37 tonsofpcs oh, and "Do you want a one-inch deck?"  "Hey, it's not 3/4"  "Sorry, no quad"
23:37 hhrlisa I've got a big deck
23:37 tonsofpcs oo, in the spirit of radio:  What's your favorite announce mic?
23:37 hhrlisa :D
23:38 tonsofpcs hhrlisa: put it back in the shoe.
23:38 hhrlisa nope. :D
23:38 JOE248 what kind of dog is Omni  how old is she it look like she limp in a few Captain's Blog
23:39 tlockley omni looks like a black lab
23:39 tlockley possibly a little mix
23:39 tonsofpcs It hasn't?  It sounds like the sandbox station at my college, only [silences himself here]....
23:39 Seroster God damn it it's 00.40.
23:39 tonsofpcs my clock drifted again, didn't it... *runs ntpd*
23:41 tlockley i wish i could use ntpd, but once again UMass Dartmouth has decided to block it as it may be user for…. file sharing *spooky hands*
23:41 tlockley *used
23:42 Experimentonomen JOE248, that was asked to chris, he doesent know
23:42 Experimentonomen moose knows though
23:43 JOE248 OK ty
23:43 tonsofpcs tlockley: err, ntpdate, but what?
23:43 tonsofpcs they don't run a (s)ntpd for the campus?
23:43 tlockley nope
23:43 tlockley non ssl irc is also blocked
23:43 tonsofpcs hi chris!
23:44 JOE248 Hello chris!
23:44 tlockley i wish, i need housing
23:45 tonsofpcs wait, ssl irc is ok but non-ssl isn't?  doessn't ssl make file sharing easiier?... *confuse*
23:45 tlockley oh and ICMP is totally blocked
23:45 tlockley atleast ping and reply
23:45 tlockley but most of the labels
23:45 * tonsofpcs teaches tlockley to leave a machine on outside the state and ssh tunnel everything through it
23:45 JOE248 winter  car ?
23:46 tlockley tonsofpcs: i wish, but i dont have the BW available
23:46 JOE248 KOOL
23:46 eadthem ya i remmber for the breef moment of insanity when i was considering comcast busness class 1 thing in the TOS was  no IRC
23:46 eadthem witch makes no sense
23:47 GGR-Zozo more questions
23:47 tlockley yah i got them backwards
23:47 hhrlisa Can Chris be bought?
23:47 eadthem everyone has a price
23:47 eadthem not all of it is money
23:48 tlockley would/will it ever be possible to get the captains blogs / tgg main channel over bittorrent
23:48 tonsofpcs RE20!
23:48 tlockley called the black lab
23:49 tonsofpcs only 50% pure awesome?!
23:49 tonsofpcs llol
23:49 dbshortwave rofl
23:50 dbshortwave she will be there soon
23:50 tlockley GGR-Zozo: see above
23:50 tonsofpcs hi jeff!
23:50 tlockley would/will it ever be possible to get the captains blogs / tgg main channel over bittorrent
23:50 tlockley it was only like 6 lines up
23:50 dbshortwave what is the worst thing you ever done to Gebroni?
23:50 tlockley lazy
23:51 Monkeh Put some AC/DC on, can't go wrong
23:51 tonsofpcs Quad or 1inch Type-C?
23:51 JOE248 is straight jacket conttest still avabile
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23:51 tonsofpcs click... click... click...
23:52 tonsofpcs video
23:52 tonsofpcs we *might* be disposing of one soon...
23:52 tlockley music is still kinda loud
23:52 tonsofpcs yea, it is, drop that music 9dB or so....
23:53 dbshortwave lol cori is the worst thing
23:53 tlockley tonsofpcs: you are the only other person i know who asks for specific db values
23:53 tlockley yes
23:53 tlockley will TGG videos ever be available over bittorrent
23:53 tonsofpcs yes
23:53 Monkeh Maybe a little lower
23:53 hhrlisa Have you seen gibronni shirtless?
23:54 tlockley god damn GGR
23:54 tlockley i have asked the same question 3 times now
23:54 JOE248 is straight jacket conttest still avabile ?
23:54 dbshortwave nice
23:54 hhrlisa Damnit Chris is that a bad thing?!?!?!
23:54 dbshortwave yeah blood shot from every dude in this channel
23:55 tonsofpcs just wait until google image search lets you search floor plans....
23:55 Monkeh This is a disturbing place.
23:55 Monkeh tlockley: Ask again, damnit.
23:55 tonsofpcs what is this contest?
23:55 Experimentonomen chris, do you have to be a paying member to visit the lab ?
23:56 tlockley GGR-Zozo, GGR: will TGG videos ever be available for direct download over Bittorrent?
23:56 tlockley or direct download at all?
23:56 Monkeh You can direct download from Youtube y'know
23:56 tonsofpcs btw, yNos / ajprog_laptop : ubnt unifi AP deployment ++
23:56 tlockley yes but i would rather not download a conversion of a conversion
23:56 tonsofpcs chris - how much does the geek group workout program cost?
23:57 dbshortwave Chris, what have you ever done to drop you like a rock working in high voltage?
23:57 tonsofpcs om
23:57 dbshortwave ow
23:57 JOE248 HEY BILL
23:57 Monkeh MY EARS
23:57 tonsofpcs overmodulattttttttttttting
23:57 hhrlisa BILL!!!!
23:57 tonsofpcs LOUD BILL is LOUD
23:58 tlockley very LOUD!!
23:58 GGR-Zozo better?
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23:58 Monkeh No, pain.
23:58 hhrlisa bill is loud
23:59 GGR-Zozo how is it now?

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