Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-22

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00:00 tlockley better
00:00 tlockley can you scroll back a bit and ask chris the bittorrent question… i posted it like 5 times
00:00 GGR-Zozo i will
00:00 tlockley thanks
00:00 hhrlisa Lisa is pregnant!!!!
00:00 dbshortwave i should have gotten one
00:01 Seroster HOLY SHIT
00:01 Seroster SHE IS
00:01 JOE248 LOL"
00:01 tonsofpcs lol
00:01 hhrlisa Chris i knew that secret
00:01 Monkeh The whole internet knew
00:02 Seroster JOE248, Omnidog is a black lab, about 3years old, female and owned by chris and moose.
00:02 GGR-Zozo more questions =D
00:02 Experimentonomen u missed my question above
00:02 tonsofpcs you mean like DDT?
00:02 JOE248 mmmm llead
00:02 eadthem chris and moose?
00:03 tlockley what is the relationship between you(chris) and moose?
00:04 Seroster is ggr another stream?
00:04 tlockley yah
00:04 Monkeh Ask about bittorrent specifically please
00:04 Monkeh Because that's easy
00:04 Seroster How about a link, tlockley?
00:04 Experimentonomen http://69.80.224.243:8110
00:04 BotSteve Title: SHOUTcast Administrator
00:04 hhrlisa what if i show up shirtless chris?
00:04 Experimentonomen hhrlisa, how old are you ? :P
00:05 hhrlisa lulz 25
00:05 tlockley GGR: more specifically can we get video over bittorrent?
00:05 astro73|alice hhrlisa: i believe nobody would have any problems with that. i just want advanced warning
00:05 hhrlisa lol
00:05 GGR-Zozo i will
00:05 hhrlisa it will never happen so don't worry
00:05 tonsofpcs never = next week
00:06 Experimentonomen hhrlisa, i thought u were 30+ :o
00:06 hhrlisa lol no
00:06 dbshortwave ive got a question lmao
00:06 hhrlisa why did you think that
00:06 masterofmonks If she did show up stopless, I might actually start watching the stream.
00:06 Seroster Because you are so wize and pretty
00:06 masterofmonks topless*
00:06 Experimentonomen lol masterofmonks
00:06 hhrlisa lulz to both of you
00:06 tlockley hey steve
00:06 tonsofpcs chris: use wiar!
00:06 tlockley yah
00:07 Seroster Hellohellohellooo...
00:07 Monkeh Dave's quiet, Chris is loud.
00:07 Seroster Ya I hear dave.
00:07 JOE248 Hello DEAVE
00:07 JOE248 lol
00:07 Monkeh Ah, that's better, Chris is still loud.
00:07 tonsofpcs dave is low, chris is OM
00:07 Seroster You can really hear his moustache.
00:07 Seroster monkeh He is loud per definition.
00:07 tonsofpcs Monkeh: how many bodens?
00:07 Monkeh Seroster: Well yes but this is incorrect setting loud :P
00:07 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Over nine thousand
00:08 Monkeh What sort of anchor is this?
00:08 tlockley nope, ver quiet
00:08 tlockley *very
00:08 dbshortwave yeah
00:08 Monkeh Yeah, Steve, speak up
00:08 tonsofpcs i can't hear steve
00:08 tlockley steve use you big boy voice
00:08 Monkeh And turn your mic on
00:08 tonsofpcs radar o'reilly?
00:08 Experimentonomen egrsteve, SPEAK UP!!! :P
00:09 dbshortwave Radar O'riley
00:09 hhrlisa i ate to much cereal
00:09 dbshortwave would you shagg Lisa?
00:09 dbshortwave lmao
00:09 Monkeh And if I come with all that and just need a plane ticket?
00:09 tonsofpcs steel toes!
00:10 Seroster Yeah, chris, you make me hard.. You really do.
00:10 tonsofpcs lol
00:10 hhrlisa shut up db  lulz
00:10 dbshortwave rofl
00:10 astro73|alice hhrlisa: is that possible?
00:10 tonsofpcs seroster will give you something hard.
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00:11 dbshortwave dead air is a good song
00:11 tonsofpcs we're not on a 20s delay, you are ! :-p
00:11 tonsofpcs play the green album.
00:11 tlockley are there any projects that are actually complete and finisehd?
00:11 hhrlisa is what possible astro?
00:11 Experimentonomen will TGG ever setup a program for those overseas that cannot afford the plane ticket ?
00:11 Seroster Chris, I really hate you for being live at 1am when my clock is set for 5am sharp.
00:12 Experimentonomen goto bed you jolly! :P
00:12 tonsofpcs I feel like I'm playing tony hawk on the playstation again
00:12 tlockley may i suggest spotify for music or are you bound to paying royalties?
00:12 tlockley woops
00:12 dbshortwave ow
00:12 Monkeh I think they actually need the files there
00:12 tlockley someone acceidntally a button
00:12 Monkeh Okay, who got curious?
00:13 tonsofpcs someone accidentally your ears.
00:13 hhrlisa astro73|alice what
00:13 Experimentonomen luckily i had my volume down as its the middle of the night here
00:13 tlockley Monkeh: spotify has a offline option
00:13 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Headphones, man.
00:13 astro73|alice hhrlisa: eating too much cereal
00:13 hhrlisa way to fucking loud ggr
00:13 tlockley it just costs
00:13 hhrlisa yes
00:13 JOE248 play some whitney Huston for chris
00:13 tonsofpcs tlockley: even paying royalties, I wouldn't play spotify.  codec concatenation's a bear.
00:14 tlockley true, but it would afford a better library
00:14 tonsofpcs probably not.
00:14 Seroster Yes you are still broadkasting through the mike, dave.
00:14 Experimentonomen i think spotify even specifies in their policy that you cannot stream or even record their content
00:14 tonsofpcs you'd probably have to pay spotify and ASCAP/BMI and SoundExchange....
00:14 tlockley yah
00:14 tonsofpcs if you have a CD, you only have to pay soundexchange (for something on this scale).
00:14 tlockley fucking loud
00:15 JOE248 ya =why is the tgg useing comcast  they need a T1 or T3 SERIVECE
00:15 Seroster Volume was adequate.
00:15 tonsofpcs ok
00:15 Monkeh Pretty good
00:15 tlockley directly in the middle
00:15 tlockley it clipped
00:15 tonsofpcs no, it was good.
00:15 Experimentonomen clipping for a bit, the n it went down slightly
00:15 tonsofpcs it just sounded like an overcompressed recording.
00:15 Monkeh Okay, here's one.. when will you offer shrunk international coins?
00:16 hhrlisa it sounded awful
00:16 tonsofpcs chris: teach us how to work an audio console over radio :-p
00:16 tlockley what coin(s) shrinks the best?
00:16 hhrlisa SUBLIME ROCKS!
00:16 masterofmonks Or duid rock until the vocalist oded on heroin.
00:16 hhrlisa i wanna dance now
00:16 masterofmonks did*
00:16 Seroster Thought about shoving something other than coins in stomper? Like... Coke cans, bolts? - A one inch diameter bolt that is half an inch in the middle would look cool.
00:17 Monkeh Seroster: They can of course do that on the lathe.. ;)
00:17 * hhrlisa dances
00:17 Seroster I... I think I hate you, monkeh =P
00:17 Monkeh Seroster: Given you ideas?
00:18 dbshortwave how did you make out with the UK guy that complained about copyrites for the christmas bulb thing?
00:18 Experimentonomen GGR-Zozo, are you using the wheatstone mixing console in the radio station or is that in master control for the production vidos ?
00:18 tonsofpcs christmas bulb thing?
00:18 Monkeh Photon?
00:18 tlockley Experimentonomen: i think its being mixed on an old yamaha
00:18 tonsofpcs "my personal theme song" << overmodulating
00:18 dbshortwave yeah where he put the christmas bulb on gemini
00:18 hhrlisa can ggr play date rape next :P
00:18 Monkeh He wasn't complaining about copyright, just being childish.
00:18 Seroster No, not really, what you pay for isn't the coin, or the piece of metal, you pay for the history, I.E how the coin got the form that it currently has, a process that involves a lot of current and currency.  The same would go for a bolt, it's the science behind it and not the actual object. A hourglass machined bolt wouldn't be the same.
00:19 Monkeh Seroster: Well, true, but one done on a lathe would be pretty cool if the threads were continuous :P
00:19 ajprog_nt can someone check live stream for audio?
00:19 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you can do that on a hand lathe....
00:19 Seroster Oh, that's a question;    How did the photoninciduction drama end? He still pissed or is it sorted?
00:19 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I don't even have a manual lathe. :P
00:20 tonsofpcs ajprog_nt: I get none.
00:20 Monkeh Livestream has very quiet audio
00:21 tonsofpcs am I the only one who thinks that people who think coax == balanced need to meet with a board of education?
00:21 tlockley i concur with that statement
00:21 Monkeh tonsofpcs: No.
00:22 tlockley though it needs a bit more qulification of the situation
00:22 Seroster Who ever claimed that coax is balanced? '-'
00:22 tonsofpcs tlockley: "How can you call that a "balanced cable" without a shield? The whole point of balanced cabling is to have a shield. AKA, Unbalanced wiring. Nevertheless, you're using Cat 5 cabling which is unshielded. You WILL get Crosstalk since you're not using the proper gauge, shielding, or cabling. I really hope you don't run that more than a few feet..."
00:22 tonsofpcs liner.
00:22 Monkeh tonsofpcs: ...
00:22 Seroster Chris, you were on the loud side after the song ended.
00:23 hhrlisa chris is naturally loud
00:23 Seroster .g duct tape
00:23 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.duckbrand.com/
00:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: comment on wheatstone hoookup video #3.
00:23 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Wow, I need to go kill him with a hammer
00:23 Seroster That WASNT pink floyd, that was survivor '-'
00:23 tlockley fuuuuuuuuuu
00:24 tonsofpcs technical prpoblems..........
00:24 Seroster Lol
00:24 tonsofpcs Monkeh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuFpFV86lzI
00:24 BotSteve Title: Audio Connectors with Eric (Part 3) - YouTube
00:24 Monkeh Okay, who's pressing the technical problems button?
00:24 Seroster It took you this long to realize he's retarded? xD
00:24 tonsofpcs GGR is currently experiencing technical problems...
00:25 Monkeh Yeah, he's since closed that account
00:25 GGR-Zozo is it working now?
00:25 Monkeh Yes, it's back now
00:25 tlockley yay, chis on the stream
00:25 JOE248 YA
00:25 dbshortwave lol
00:25 dbshortwave thats why hes so thin
00:25 Seroster Want a fucking question? Chris, how, when and why did you lose your virginity?
00:26 JOE248 YES
00:26 Monkeh As I asked earlier, when are you likely to offer shrunk international coins?
00:26 Seroster DO IT!
00:26 Monkeh I see you Chris
00:26 tlockley please do after monkeh's question
00:27 Seroster Also, if you want to, tell the story about sensitive female parts and compressed air xD
00:28 Seroster We can't get enough of your genitals, chris. =)
00:28 tonsofpcs chris: can you pop the core and shrink just the ring of the twonie?
00:28 dbshortwave she was a pitty fuck
00:28 dbshortwave lmao
00:29 Monkeh Got any £2 coins to see how they shrink?
00:29 Monkeh Can send several.
00:29 Monkeh And why do you respond to Seroster? :D
00:29 Seroster Because nobody else asks what people want to know ;P
00:30 dbshortwave rofl
00:30 Monkeh If people == you..
00:30 dbshortwave HAHAHAHAHA
00:30 Seroster I... I gotta get good vibrations for my phone.
00:30 Monkeh STOP RIGHT THERE, we don't want to know
00:30 Seroster Shut up monkeh xD
00:31 dbshortwave IT FITS !
00:31 Monkeh There's what you wanted to know Seroster
00:31 Seroster Yeah, no shit. Now. Ask a better question.
00:32 Seroster AND YES! He also likes Jovovich xD
00:32 tlockley what is the relationship between you and moose?
00:32 dbshortwave LMAO
00:32 tonsofpcs why do you know this?
00:34 Seroster I am so sad I'm not recording this
00:34 * tonsofpcs goes to watch TWiRT with the aphex guy talking about the aural exciter
00:34 eadthem junction.exe  ftw
00:34 Seroster Convert/save... =)
00:35 GGR-Zozo any more questions?
00:35 Seroster Yeah, tlockeys question
00:35 GGR-Zozo its on the list
00:35 tlockley tks
00:36 dbshortwave yeah the liquid out of them is NASTY
00:36 Monkeh For Chris's information, it's usually like diflouroethane
00:37 Seroster No, it's cat piss.
00:37 BitViper who is hiding behind the inset on the live stream ?
00:38 Seroster .weather tgg
00:38 BotSteve Scattered, 78.8℉ (26℃), 30.08in (1015mb), Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KGRR 23:53Z
00:38 Seroster Baaad answer, =P
00:38 Seroster Let's make the question easier. Ever fucked moose?
00:39 Seroster Also, you are a bad geek if you don't hack the thatwaseasy-button.
00:39 Seroster Lol
00:39 Seroster Or sweden. It's legal here too.
00:39 BitViper *ROTFL*
00:39 Seroster Well. Fuck it.
00:39 Seroster was kicked by Seroster: Cya sir =)
00:39 dbshortwave lmao so he kicked himself out
00:40 tlockley biggest failure
00:40 tlockley ?
00:40 dbshortwave god cant think of anything
00:40 Monkeh Everyone does send him gay porn
00:40 Experimentonomen can we ban seroster ? i hate him almost as much as highman
00:41 Monkeh Hey, I LIKE my hand on my piece.
00:41 tlockley Holy shit man
00:41 dbshortwave CHRIS! have you ever been shocked playing with high voltage?
00:42 dbshortwave what was the worst
00:44 Monkeh 240's all it takes, usually lots of current hiding behind it waiting to say hi.
00:44 dbshortwave damn
00:45 Monkeh Well, what the hell, we're on electricity.. which do you think is better as a general electricity supply, 120VAC or 240VAC?
00:45 dbshortwave ehhhhh
00:46 dbshortwave OW
00:46 eadthem 120 is slightly more convenent for most electronics
00:46 dbshortwave HAHAHAHA
00:46 Monkeh eadthem: Why?
00:47 dbshortwave oh my god
00:47 eadthem its cheeper to buy parts rated to handle 120V than 240V
00:47 Monkeh But poor design due to nobody using 120V
00:47 Monkeh Not to mention inefficient
00:47 BitViper ouch!
00:47 eadthem accualy 170v vr 340V
00:47 eadthem the entire united states is nobody
00:48 BitViper covered with peanutbutter = injury ?
00:48 Monkeh Compared to pretty much the rest of the planet? Yep, it is.
00:48 eadthem when you think about things like led lighting   lower input voltage is more convenent
00:48 eadthem from a design perspective
00:48 Monkeh Depends on scale
00:48 eadthem single bulb replacement scale
00:49 Monkeh Ehh, 120, 240, not a lot in it especially if you use a switching supply.
00:49 onesizefitsall And kalamazoo was really the best option? that is a loss of perspective
00:50 eadthem well the key thing is  said SMPS has to have a mains cap  a bridge rectifyer and a boost switch as well as a buck switch
00:50 eadthem or least just a buck switch
00:50 eadthem all of those parts get alot less efficant and a lot more expensive as you go up in voltage
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00:50 dbshortwave lol
00:50 tlockley what did you do before TGG?
00:50 eadthem a 250V mosfet is sufficant for 170V serivce
00:51 eadthem but it takes a 400V or 450V mosfet for 340V service
00:51 eadthem when you think about things like a computer SMPS  then no   there pritty much equal
00:51 tlockley well anyone
00:51 tlockley everyone
00:51 Experimentonomen chris, did you have to restart the gveek group from scratch after that ?
00:51 Monkeh eadthem: By pretty much you mean like, 3-4% efficiency, sure.
00:52 Monkeh Totally insignificant. :P
00:52 eadthem by pritty much i mean 1/2
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00:52 ParkerR BitViper, Ohai
00:52 eadthem a 250V mosfet might have .4 ohms on   where a 450V one would prob be 1.2 ohms
00:52 Experimentonomen g'evenin ParkerR
00:52 ParkerR O.o
00:52 eadthem well 1/2 of the inefficancy of the given part
00:53 dbshortwave lol i can see chris in a cubical like Office Space...
00:53 eadthem when you are at the appliance and computer level its nolonger important
00:53 Monkeh eadthem: The efficiency is important, and 240 wins.
00:54 eadthem you also have to consider that 120V us style is more flexable
00:54 Monkeh So unless we want to drop the AC circuits and give homes a decent low voltage DC supply for IT equipment..
00:54 eadthem as we have 240V as well
00:54 Monkeh So?
00:54 Monkeh I have 240 and 415.
00:54 dbshortwave someone tell him he is the Fucking WILLY WONKA OF GEEKS
00:54 Monkeh Well, I've got 240, but I can get 415 if I really want it (... I have no use for it)
00:55 tlockley gnight chris
00:55 dbshortwave what?
00:55 eadthem me i can get 120 or 240  relitvly easy
00:55 dbshortwave SOME ONE TELL HIM THAT
00:55 eadthem so no if we only had 120V and that was it  240 would be better
00:56 ParkerR Damn
00:56 eadthem but because we do have 240V and 120V   the system is more flexable
00:56 JOE248 how did you and klidwill meet and whats your               dam
00:56 Monkeh Except 240 goes nowhere except specific high-current resistive loads
00:56 Monkeh Where it's essentially wasted, it's just saving on copper.
00:56 tlockley GGR-Zozo: thanks for relaying the questions
00:57 Experimentonomen that was totally worth staying up till 2 in the morning for, awesome show!! :D
00:57 eadthem so that would be a argument aganst 240 ?
00:57 GGR-Zozo no prob
00:57 Monkeh eadthem: No, just your deployment of it.
00:57 Experimentonomen chris could have skipped all the dick talk though
00:57 eadthem it goes to the oven   the air condioner   and my desk
00:57 Monkeh eadthem: It has no advantages other than the reduction in conductor size (current) the way you use it.
00:58 eadthem thats all the advantage it ever had
00:58 Monkeh eadthem: ATX PSUs. 3-4% efficiency advantage.
00:58 GGR Zozo's hijacking is over it should go back to its "normal" music
00:58 eadthem accualy a modern SMPS power supply shuld see neglibalbe efficancy diffrence between 240 and 120
00:58 Monkeh GGR: I demand some Airborne
00:59 eadthem less than 2%
00:59 Monkeh eadthem: Go take a look at some stats on ATX PSUs.
00:59 Monkeh Most other PSUs behave similarly in my experience.
00:59 eadthem i have them   as i have designed them
00:59 eadthem by modern i mean active PFC
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00:59 GGR send me the requests on my email also we need music!!! so let me know who wants to help
01:00 Monkeh .. Yes, that's basically every ATX PSU
01:00 Monkeh GGR: How do you need to receive this music?
01:00 eadthem well every one that isnt a DEER or a powmax or ...
01:00 GGR drop box should work or ill have my ftp server set up soon
01:00 Monkeh eadthem: Those don't actually meet ATX specs if you test them, so they don't count.
01:00 Experimentonomen eadthem, i had a DEER psu once, it fried my mobo
01:01 eadthem thats the usual experence
01:01 GGR but i got to go so normal music is back on for the rest of the night
01:01 eadthem its weard watching GGR type and hit enter and then seeing it appear in irc
01:01 GGR tomorrow i start adding my music into the station
01:01 Monkeh GGR: I'll put together some decent music for you..
01:01 GGR lol
01:01 Monkeh Let's see
01:01 GGR everone send me (zozo) the links
01:01 Experimentonomen the diodes on the 3.3V rail shorted out, putting the 3.3V switching into the mobo, causing the sound playback to drop to half speed for a few seconds before the macvhine died
01:01 Monkeh Asia, Black Stone Cherry, AC/DC, Judas Priest..
01:02 GGR use guardianzozo@thegeekgroup.org
01:02 eadthem your zozo at GGR?
01:02 Monkeh Oh, I know EXACTLY what to send you
01:02 Monkeh Tyketto
01:02 Experimentonomen eadthem, does CodeGen ring any bells ?
01:02 Monkeh eadthem: Here, check the bottom: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1239-page4.html
01:02 BotSteve Title: Seasonic X-1050 PSU: Gold at Kilowatt+ | silentpcreview.com
01:02 GGR im the engineer of the ggr now
01:02 Monkeh GGR: Cool
01:03 Monkeh GGR: You got any Tyketto down there?
01:03 eadthem codegen   sounds like i shuld know it but i dont
01:03 GGR nope we dont have much here currently
01:03 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/EFoiV <-- this is the inside of the psu i have now
01:03 BotSteve Title: axp psu - Imgur
01:03 Monkeh GGR: I'm going to get you some right now
01:03 GGR cool
01:04 Monkeh Just one track but I'll get some albums up tomorrow
01:04 GGR later!!! hope you all enjoyed
01:04 Monkeh Couldn't you wait five minutes? :P
01:05 eadthem Monkeh i would bet the effect would be less with say a 500W psu at 250W
01:05 Monkeh Give me a moment
01:05 eadthem witch is a typical load for a psu
01:05 Monkeh eadthem: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1203-page3.html 2%
01:05 BotSteve Title: Kingwin Lazer Platinum 550W Power Supply | silentpcreview.com
01:05 Monkeh Not insignificant in numbers.
01:06 eadthem thers a off brand
01:06 Monkeh Actually some of their PSUs are pretty good
01:06 Monkeh http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1062-page5.html 2.5%..
01:06 BotSteve Title: Seasonic X-400 Fanless PSU | silentpcreview.com
01:06 Monkeh http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1044-page4.html 3%
01:06 BotSteve Title: Enermax Modu87+ 500W 80Plus Gold | silentpcreview.com
01:06 Monkeh (yes, that one's at a higher load, deal with it :P)
01:07 dbshortwave have a good night folks
01:07 eadthem only other question is      is the power factor still good at that voltage
01:07 eadthem i would bet the seasonic is
01:07 Monkeh http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1008-page5.html 3%
01:07 BotSteve Title: Corsair CX400W Power Supply | silentpcreview.com
01:07 Experimentonomen those who need more than 400 watts of psu power are either really hardcore gamers or total idiots with crappy inefficient processors and gfx cards
01:07 eadthem but ive not seen any tests for PF vr input voltage
01:08 Monkeh eadthem: If the power factor on these PSUs is ever under 0.99 at load I'll be surprised.
01:08 eadthem its something to investgate
01:08 eadthem it shuldnt be
01:08 Monkeh Feel free to send me suitable test equipment
01:08 eadthem ya thats the key
01:08 Monkeh I can test on a wide variety of PSUs, both ATX and a small army of bricks.
01:09 eadthem i dont think my kill a watt is rated for 240 service
01:09 Experimentonomen Monkeh, i use power resistors in a pot of water for a load when i do power tests
01:09 Monkeh I can even test at 110V assuming the PSU doesn't shit itself with what I'll feed it.
01:09 Monkeh Honestly I don't think a lot of these devices would take very well to how I supply 110V
01:09 Experimentonomen i've put almost 300 watts of power through a water cooled 25W rated resistor once :P
01:09 Monkeh Experimentonomen: That's uh, not testing power factor.
01:10 Monkeh We're talking serious measurements here, not mucking about drawing current :P
01:10 eadthem Monkeh you got a oscope?
01:10 Monkeh No
01:10 Experimentonomen im talking tersting audio amplifiers for rated output power to determine a max RMS and max PEAK wattage
01:11 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Which has nothing to do with this topic. :P
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01:11 HighMan Hi all
01:11 Monkeh Oh boy, and there goes any chance of this discussion going decently.
01:11 HighMan .log
01:11 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
01:11 Experimentonomen Monkeh, well to test PF, u still need to load the psu with a power resistor :P
01:12 eadthem i mean it makes sense why the PFC would be more efficant at higher voltages
01:12 Monkeh Experimentonomen: There are lots of other ways to load
01:12 Experimentonomen a big resistor is the cheapest and by far the easiest
01:12 eadthem still think some of that could be from a drop in pf
01:12 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Not if you want accuracy
01:13 Monkeh You need constant current loads to do this properly
01:13 Experimentonomen a load could also be a high power mosfet setup as a variable resistor
01:13 Experimentonomen add a current shunt and a opamp to make a CCS
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01:15 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Now, make that rig able to dissipate 400W of heat on each rail, for at least six rails, each individually and accurately controllable and measurable. And we get outside the realm of DIY being the way.
01:15 eadthem need some beefy mosfets
01:15 Monkeh eadthem: Think the average PSU will react kindly to being stuck on a centre tap?
01:15 eadthem heat disspation ability
01:15 Experimentonomen Monkeh, at those kinda power levels i'd use bipolar transistors spec'd for high power audio amplifiers, mounted on liquid cooled heatsinks
01:16 Monkeh Experimentonomen: And it doesn't really matter, because A: I don't have the money to go any route, B: there's proper, certified equipment available to do this.
01:17 Experimentonomen i have anuf transistors in my inventory to make a three channel amp capable of over a kilowatt peak into 4 ohms
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01:18 Experimentonomen heck i have mosfets that could build me a stereo amplifier capable of 18kW per channel
01:18 Experimentonomen into 1 ohms with like straight mains to the power stage
01:20 Experimentonomen though my biggest transformer allows for about max 300-400W into any load
01:20 AndroZozo So... should we go more off the wall stuff like the hijacking?
01:20 Experimentonomen AndroZozo, sure! as long as chris doesent talk about dicks
01:21 AndroZozo If so (and you can think of any thing to do) send me a email
01:21 AndroZozo Lol i cant stop him
01:22 AndroZozo He pays the bills ill let him talk an hour about dicks if he wants too
01:23 tonsofpcs GGR needs a compellor...
01:23 tonsofpcs egrsteve: do you have a compellor laying around?
01:23 Experimentonomen i would never have the guts to talk about dicks on a stream like that
01:24 Experimentonomen heck i barely have the guts to talk to you over teamspeak
01:27 Experimentonomen aight its almost 3 in the morning here so im off, nite peepz
01:28 tlockley compellor?
01:28 tonsofpcs yes.
01:28 tonsofpcs or a prism
01:30 tlockley i assume compellor is a brand name for a compressor?
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01:31 astro73|alice .w compellor
01:31 BotSteve "Wellwater Conspiracy was an American rock band that formed in Seattle, Washington in 1993." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellwater_Conspiracy
01:32 astro73|alice aphex?
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01:38 Toastdude Hi
01:38 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
01:38 BotSteve At 21 Mar 05:13Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude "“What do Batman and sixteen sodiums have in common? Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na”"
01:38 Toastdude BotSteve: tell wannabe omg..... :P
01:38 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe is around.
01:39 Toastdude Grr...
01:39 Toastdude BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 omg..... :P
01:39 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
01:39 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
01:39 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
01:39 Toastdude Hi Parked
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01:39 Toastdude Lisa!
01:40 hhrlisa TOAST
01:40 astro73|alice LISA
01:40 Toastdude :D I allow you to call me that :P
01:40 astro73|alice (not to be confused with MAC)
01:41 hhrlisa i now havestuff to make blts
01:41 astro73|alice BLTs are tasty
01:42 hhrlisa mmhmm maple bacon blts
01:43 astro73|alice .w maple bacon
01:43 BotSteve "The maple bacon donut is a culinary dessert specialty that has become popular in some areas of the United States." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_bacon_donut
02:04 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Oh, how few people will get that. :)
02:04 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: it's really sad
02:05 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: That we know it or that so few people actually know the real history?
02:05 astro73|alice that so few people know it
02:06 Monkeh|Lap Indeed
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02:09 HighMan|Stalking Monkeh|Lap, Night. Be careful, the world is dangerous.
02:09 hhrlisa im gonna go make blts
02:10 Monkeh|Lap HighMan|Stalking: Yes, I make it that way.
02:10 HighMan|Stalking Monkeh|Lap, Watch your back. ;)
02:10 Monkeh|Lap What, is the wall going to attack me?
02:10 HighMan|Stalking Notice my nickname. And yes, there could be a earthquake and you could suffer crush syndrome.
02:11 HighMan|Stalking Which is different then crash syndrome.
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Right, an earthquake.
02:11 HighMan|Stalking Don't tell me there is going to be an erathquake. Where I live only aftershocks can happen. Rigth masterofmonks?
02:11 astro73|alice how come sudo doesn't add sbin to my path anymor?
02:11 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: It never should have unless manually configured to
02:12 astro73|alice i thought it was default?
02:12 astro73|alice apt assumes it does
02:12 Monkeh|Lap I have sbin in my path anyway.
02:12 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: I.. don't think so.
02:13 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Distro?
02:13 astro73|alice mint + debian?
02:13 astro73|alice f-ed up
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Oh, dear.
02:13 Monkeh|Lap You're on your own there. At least it's not Ubuntu.
02:13 masterofmonks HighMan|Stalking, Actually that is not correct.
02:14 HighMan|Stalking Derp... How much energy to break up a tectonic disk?
02:14 Monkeh|Lap You can't comprehend it
02:14 masterofmonks HighMan|Stalking, the applilatian mountains?
02:14 astro73|alice ubuntu at least does it properly
02:14 masterofmonks Or however the hell you spell that at 2214.
02:14 HighMan|Stalking o_O That's across the world...
02:14 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Hell no it doesn't
02:14 HighMan|Stalking masterofmonks, Go to sleep lol
02:15 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Hang on.. how are you calling sudo and why do you expect it to alter your PATH?
02:15 astro73|alice the GUI update manager -> apt -> whatever it does
02:15 HighMan|Stalking Sudo Wrestler gonna change your path to sexual interrcourse withanother.
02:15 astro73|alice it's looking for start-stop-service and seomething else
02:15 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: *shrug*
02:17 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: I'm with Boden, real men use Gentoo. :P
02:17 masterofmonks HighMan|Stalking, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Mountains
02:17 BotSteve Title: Appalachian Mountains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:17 astro73|alice real men use whatever they like
02:17 astro73|alice because nobody argues with a Real Man.
02:17 hhrlisaaway real men have sex
02:17 Monkeh|Lap Hence why people don't argue with me on my distro choice. For very long. :)
02:18 astro73|alice you have fun with your gentoo
02:18 astro73|alice how long does it take to install updates? 3 days?
02:18 Monkeh|Lap I do!
02:18 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Err, last batch took about 30 minutes to build.
02:18 Monkeh|Lap Kernel update will probably take me about six minutes.
02:18 Sgt_Lemming .yuno
02:18 BotSteve Printer: Y U NO PRINT?????????????
02:19 Sgt_Lemming .yuno
02:19 BotSteve I txt u: Y U NO TXT BACK????????????????
02:19 astro73|alice oh, so it's just when gnome or kde update that you have problems
02:19 Monkeh|Lap qemu-kvm still needs rebuilding, I'm just too lazy to do it
02:19 Sgt_Lemming .yuno
02:19 BotSteve Cat: Y U NO SPEEK ENGRISH?????????
02:19 hhrlisaaway .yuno\
02:19 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Gnome will no longer update for me (.. and is tiny anyway compared to KDE)
02:19 hhrlisaaway .yuno
02:19 BotSteve *Sharpening pencil, and it keeps breaking as i pull it out...* Pencil: Y U NO SHARPEN RIGHT??????????????
02:19 Monkeh|Lap Oh, and libreoffice building is broken
02:19 Monkeh|Lap In a weird way. I need to investigate that.
02:19 astro73|alice see, i tend to not have that problem
02:19 Monkeh|Lap I.. don't even use it, honestly
02:19 astro73|alice apt refuses to install things with broken dependencies
02:20 Monkeh|Lap What broken dependencies?
02:20 astro73|alice in my case, version mismatches
02:20 Monkeh|Lap Err.. what version mismatches?
02:21 astro73|alice package foo requires 1.5 of package bar, but only bar 1.4 is in the repository
02:21 Monkeh|Lap Right.. I don't have that.
02:21 astro73|alice (such is debian unstable)
02:21 Monkeh|Lap And, funnily enough, if deps aren't satisfied it won't let you do it unless you force it.
02:21 Monkeh|Lap We DO have a dep resolver y'know.
02:22 astro73|alice :P
02:22 astro73|alice it'll still break mysteriously
02:22 Monkeh|Lap In many ways it's more advanced than most distros as our layout is more complex.
02:22 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Well, yes, if you run it the way I do. Hence libreoffice.
02:23 astro73|alice let me know if you ever have problems in drivers
02:23 astro73|alice what was it...
02:23 astro73|alice webcam worked in one kernel, but wireless worked in a different one
02:23 Monkeh|Lap Other than ALSA being a useless pile of cack?
02:23 astro73|alice (frieds of mine)n
02:23 astro73|alice yes
02:23 Monkeh|Lap Those sort of issues don't really bother me
02:23 Monkeh|Lap I roll my own kernels on any distro
02:23 astro73|alice so did they
02:23 Monkeh|Lap I have my own requirements and I'm fond of a number of out of tree patches, plus I use some interesting wireless patches on certain boxes.
02:24 astro73|alice also, you'll appreciate this.
02:24 astro73|alice sometimes when i run minecraft, pulse will take 50% CPU for no reason
02:24 Monkeh|Lap I also actually know what I'm doing, so I can handle custom patches for devices.
02:24 Monkeh|Lap Nice.
02:24 astro73|alice i know enough to get myself in trouble
02:24 astro73|alice but i would have to spend 2 weeks digging myself out
02:25 Monkeh|Lap I know enough to get myself _out_ of trouble.
02:25 Monkeh|Lap I've tracked down a few obscure bugs in an afternoon before and submitted patches or revert requests
02:26 Monkeh|Lap See, when Chris said doing a stage1 install is hard, I laughed, because it's actually really quite easy for me :P
02:26 astro73|alice i've done that occasionally, but never on the kernel
02:26 Monkeh|Lap (also pointless except on some exotic hardware, but that's another matter)
02:26 astro73|alice stage1 == bootable?
02:26 astro73|alice or buildable/
02:27 Monkeh|Lap stage4 is bootable (not supplied)
02:27 astro73|alice wow
02:27 Monkeh|Lap stage1 is, essentially, a bare toolchain
02:27 astro73|alice just checking
02:27 Monkeh|Lap stage3 is toolchain and utilities, just add kernel, bootloader, extra filesystem utils
02:28 Monkeh|Lap stage1 is, more or less, LFS with portage. stage3 is what you get at the end of an LFS guide.
02:28 Monkeh|Lap stage4 is what people call backups of working systems, whether it be a fully configured desktop or just a barebones bootable for particular hardware
02:29 astro73|alice i'll pretend i followed that when half my mind is on psych
02:29 Monkeh|Lap heh
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02:29 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: We're a fast paced bunch. ;)
02:30 Monkeh|Lap And we run into some interesting bugs.
02:30 Monkeh|Lap qemu-kvm won't build with 4 jobs for instance
02:30 Monkeh|Lap It's not RAM, there's some parallel bug going on there
02:30 Monkeh|Lap libreoffice is failing to detect a library I know for a fact is installed in usable condition
02:30 Monkeh|Lap So both build system bugs, which are the worst
02:31 astro73|alice which means make has a bug, they haven't properly defined their Makefile, or their build process is probably too complex
02:31 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Exactly, any of those three is a total pain in the ass to troubleshoot.
02:31 Monkeh|Lap On the other hand, our 'weird' practices have exposed and fixed more than a few bugs in make and autotools :P
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Also glibc
02:31 astro73|alice autotools is a piles of crap hacks
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Yes, it is, and it's also fucking everywhere
02:32 astro73|alice i like a distro where i don't have to worry things until i open the hood and dig in
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Meanwhile I'm dug in all the time
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Doesn't really bother me because I know how to keep things going with minimal effort until I want to actually look at it
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Hell, it's pretty solid if you run stable..
02:33 Monkeh|Lap I don't.
02:33 Monkeh|Lap I run unstable with a few overlays and quite a bit of unmasked stuff
02:33 astro73|alice stable is never any fun
02:33 astro73|alice debian stable? what a bore!
02:33 Monkeh|Lap I ask for breakage and I often get it
02:34 astro73|alice good job
02:34 Monkeh|Lap I've got a major udev upgrade coming, could be fun.
02:34 astro73|alice good times
02:34 astro73|alice have you looked at all at the wayland display system?
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Speaking of which, I was one of the few people who worked on identifying and fixing a minor but really, really annoying bug with udev installation when chrooted
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Which was a pain
02:35 astro73|alice i'm curious on your opinion
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02:35 Monkeh|Lap I haven't actually
02:35 Monkeh|Lap I suppose I should, but..
02:35 Monkeh|Lap X mostly works for me for now
02:35 astro73|alice you're too cool for GUIs
02:35 Druidic_Rifleman sooooo i am going to need to couch surf or rent a hotel
02:35 * Monkeh|Lap resists easy shot
02:36 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Nah, I'm just too lazy to fiddle with them
02:36 Monkeh|Lap But I am mostly a CLI guy beyond browsing
02:36 Monkeh|Lap I do 99% of file management from the CLI because it's just plain faster
02:37 astro73|alice i'm kinda hybrid
02:37 Monkeh|Lap The annoying crap which takes repeated clicks and drags and waiting and more clicking and dragging, etc, I can do a one-liner in bash and walk off.
02:37 astro73|alice i actually really want an "IDE" which is basically a fancy text editor and a console
02:37 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: emacs. ;P
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Or vim, I'm a vim guy.
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Equal opportunities though
02:37 astro73|alice i hate them both, namely because of the absurd learning curve
02:38 astro73|alice and the poor GUI support in both of them
02:38 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, I admit it's steep
02:38 Monkeh|Lap I don't use many advanced features really, I'm just comfortable with the basic editing modes of vim.
02:38 astro73|alice i hate how every piece of software has it's own set of keyboard shortcuts
02:38 eadthem astro73|alice what languige
02:38 astro73|alice eadthem: python, javascript, html mostly
02:38 Monkeh|Lap I'm actually a massive fan of.. notepad2.
02:39 astro73|alice that's the windows equivelent of gedit, isn't it?
02:39 eadthem didnt netbeans have python support?
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Something like that
02:39 Monkeh|Lap It's a pretty full-featured editor
02:39 Monkeh|Lap .. but it's as slim and easy as notepad
02:39 astro73|alice gedit is pretty slim
02:39 astro73|alice eadthem: i have a thing against large IDEs
02:40 astro73|alice too big for too few features
02:40 Monkeh|Lap This is as fast to launch as notepad with very little more memory usage
02:40 Monkeh|Lap .. with syntax highlighting, indenting, etc
02:40 astro73|alice gedit doesn't take very long to load
02:41 astro73|alice and is a full code editor
02:41 Monkeh|Lap I must see if I can get a linux build to work, because I really like it
02:41 Monkeh|Lap So's notepad2, it's scintilla based
02:41 astro73|alice i was really happy when i found out that gedit had a windows port
02:42 Monkeh|Lap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Notepad2_screenshot.PNG
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02:42 ChrisB So I hear Photonicinduction is back on the internet, where?
02:42 Monkeh|Lap ChrisB: Nah, that was old, that account's gone now too
02:43 Guest29214 I heard he was back, like just recently.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: There are modified versions of it with code folding (think I had one of those before the last format), too.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap Guest29214: Not that I'm aware of.
02:43 Guest29214 Is Mike here?
02:43 Monkeh|Lap If he is he can keep his uninformed whining to himself
02:44 Druidic_Rifleman yeah he is
02:44 Guest29214 MIKE!
02:44 eadthem keep a eye on RODALCO2007 and aussie50
02:44 Guest29214 Wake up.
02:44 Druidic_Rifleman he's now on a I am SUPPER safe don't try this at home bent
02:44 Druidic_Rifleman which mike?
02:44 Guest29214 Mike that moved to GR that I was on the radio with today
02:45 Guest29214 What's the Youtube ID to see his latest stuff?
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Yeah, sounds like someone crawled up his ass about health and safety..
02:45 Druidic_Rifleman wht
02:45 Druidic_Rifleman he is just reposting his old grap
02:47 Guest29214 Got a link?
02:49 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
02:49 Druidic_Rifleman don't bother
02:49 Druidic_Rifleman it's him
02:49 Druidic_Rifleman with more of his pretentious BS from his why i am leaving youtube
02:49 Druidic_Rifleman crap
02:51 Guest29214 You're doing a great job of not actually answering my question.
02:51 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, that happens a lot
02:53 astro73|alice i'm undecided about gnome3, but it's too much trouble to get rid off
02:55 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe1987
02:55 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe1987 9.36 hours ago at 2012-03-21 17:33:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:55:40 UTC
02:58 lwq_laptop Guest29214: i didnt know he came back
03:02 Druidic_Rifleman why would i encurage people to watch that prentetious arrogent dirty red coat hack?
03:16 lwq_laptop druid be nice
03:16 lwq_laptop hi lisa
03:16 * lwq_laptop gives lisa a hug
03:18 * lwq_laptop pokes hhrlisa
03:18 hhrlisa hi
03:21 lwq_laptop its a toastdude
03:22 Toastdude Yes.
03:24 lwq_laptop your never really here anymore.
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03:26 Toastdude Kelly!
03:26 lwq_laptop hi kelly
03:27 wannabe1987 o.o
03:27 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
03:27 BotSteve At 01:39Z, Toastdude asked me to tell wannabe1987 omg..... :P
03:27 wannabe1987 hi
03:27 wannabe1987 omg what?!
03:27 wannabe1987 o chemistry cat?
03:27 Toastdude Na na na na na na na na
03:27 wannabe1987 or joke?
03:27 wannabe1987 or both?
03:27 Toastdude Both :P
03:27 Toastdude brb
03:28 wannabe1987 aw ok
03:28 lwq_laptop fuck chemistry cat, what about keyboard cat :P
03:28 wannabe1987 ...
03:29 * lwq_laptop hugs wanabe
03:30 lwq_laptop ALL COPS ARE BITCHES
03:30 * astro73|alice hugs wannabe1987
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03:33 wannabe1987 hi astro
03:33 * lwq_laptop is playing with a knife
03:34 * lwq_laptop goes away
03:34 wannabe1987 ...
03:35 * lwq_laptop punches the wall
03:38 wannabe1987 why
03:40 lwq_laptop im mad, dont know why
03:40 wannabe1987 :/
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03:47 Toastdude back
03:53 * Druidic_Rifleman will laugh if lee cuts him self
03:53 wannabe1987 ...
03:53 eadthem more progress on the isobox  http://final.servegame.com/public/hv2.png
03:55 eadthem 1 of the disadvantages to living in an apartment is,  thers no guarntee some slaphappy matinance guy wont have to come in to fix something,  and go  ooo shiny when he sees varius things on my desk
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03:56 eadthem granted i cant imagen ever having a cap in there that would hold a charge more tahn a fue seconds   figure   its ment for testing and playing with mains   i best cover it.
03:57 lwq_laptop hey druid maybe i was infering i was going to cut myself on purpose
04:05 Druidic_Rifleman that or cut your self by accident
04:05 Druidic_Rifleman knives are sharp and not toy's Mkay?
04:10 wannabe1987 http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee433/mariah702/timewarp.jpg
04:10 wannabe1987 druid shush
04:10 wannabe1987 stop bein an ass
04:10 wannabe1987 and i'm leavin on tat note
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04:19 Druidic_Rifleman what if you play with knive's eventually you will cut your self
04:19 lwq_laptop havent cut myself with this particular knife yet, wait actually ive never cut myself with a knife
04:20 Druidic_Rifleman noob
04:21 lwq_laptop how am i a noob, ive never cut myself with a knife. i deal with them everyday, it just showes im safe
04:22 Druidic_Rifleman Cause it happens.
04:22 lwq_laptop yeah it will happen eventually, but i havent so far
04:24 Druidic_Rifleman i think i might go for a walk and see if i can find any scrap metal by the old rail tracks
04:24 Druidic_Rifleman that or play SRO till my laundry is done
04:25 Druidic_Rifleman STO*
04:25 lwq_laptop take the whole track :P
04:25 Druidic_Rifleman the shortest section i saw is like 12 foot long
04:25 Druidic_Rifleman IF i could
04:25 Druidic_Rifleman I WOULD
04:26 lwq_laptop and if it was legal
04:29 IsopropylAlcohol rail track? go to the rail yard and ask if you can buy some. My railyard in town sells scrap track and used parts cheap
04:30 IsopropylAlcohol paied $30 for a 27" section of rail
04:30 IsopropylAlcohol payed*
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04:31 IsopropylAlcohol for cost of steel thats a great deal
04:31 LemPhone so... standing at the bus stop just before
04:31 LemPhone this like 40 year old chauvinistic redneck is there bitching about the world and cracking racist/sexist jokes
04:32 LemPhone just as he finishes this mini rant about how much of a cranky old bastard he is and how the city/state/country/world has gone to shit
04:34 LemPhone this 90 year old (at least) guy rocks up carrying a rainbow umbrella, with a smiley face badge on his lapel and a massive grin walks up and starts going on about how nice a day it is (it's pissing down) in our wonderful city and how great life is
04:34 LemPhone you've never seen someone shut up quite as fast as mr redneck did at that moment
04:35 Druidic_Rifleman Not here
04:35 Druidic_Rifleman they Sell it all dirrectly to scrap yards
04:36 LemPhone awww, no giggle?
04:36 LemPhone I thought it was pretty amusing
04:46 hhrlisa im heading out... night
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05:11 lwq_laptop hi there
05:11 NothingNerd morning
05:11 lwq_laptop i like the nick:P
05:11 NothingNerd thx
05:12 wannabe1987 hi!
05:12 wannabe1987 welcome to the geek group.  whats up?
05:13 lwq_laptop most of our irc members are asleep around this time. so idk what to tell you
05:13 wannabe1987 NothingNerd, where are you from?
05:13 NothingNerd Chicago
05:13 NothingNerd but it's early
05:13 lwq_laptop well its late but its early :P
05:13 wannabe1987 ahhh.  yeah, its only 1:13 here :)
05:13 NothingNerd exactly
05:13 wannabe1987 (grand rapids, MI)
05:14 lwq_laptop Irvona, Pa
05:14 NothingNerd So hows the future?
05:14 NothingNerd I love making that joke with people in other timezones
05:14 lwq_laptop hasnt come yet wouldnt know
05:15 lwq_laptop im in the same time zone :P
05:16 NothingNerd your in the future to me tho, it's only 0016 here
05:16 lwq_laptop oh
05:18 NothingNerd so whats everyone up to at this wonderful hour?
05:18 lwq_laptop your welcome to go to some of our other channels to there is #tgg:guns #tgg:nsfw #tgg:sports
05:18 lwq_laptop and im pretty sure more
05:18 lwq_laptop and im up because im a night owl
05:21 NothingNerd ah, I have that problem too
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05:23 Druidic_Rifleman whats up zozo
05:24 Guardianzozo yo
05:24 Cprossu fucking sweet jesus.
05:24 Guardianzozo no thanks
05:24 Cprossu just got $200 from a customer I usually do free work for
05:24 wannabe1987 cool
05:24 Guardianzozo nice
05:24 Cprossu that added to what I got means I've got what I need
05:24 Cprossu hopefully
05:25 Guardianzozo for?
05:25 Cprossu grr in general
05:25 wannabe1987 sweet
05:26 Cprossu I've got to now wash clothes and pack my things
05:26 Cprossu I changed the oil in all three of our cars today
05:26 Cprossu so that shit's done
05:27 Guardianzozo nice
05:27 Cprossu I've got most of the components I'll need to build myself a desktop when I get there
05:27 Guardianzozo you need to take a look at wannabe's car when you get here
05:27 Cprossu (which will stay in grand rapids)
05:27 Cprossu is it still road safe?
05:27 wannabe1987 yes
05:27 wannabe1987 it clunks
05:27 Cprossu good :\D
05:28 Guardianzozo it makes a clunk from the back during turns
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05:29 Cprossu lol I wonder if the jack came loose?
05:29 Guardianzozo could be lol
05:36 Druidic_Rifleman i finally got my papperwork
05:36 Guardianzozo i know
05:36 Guardianzozo you mentioned that =)
05:36 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
05:37 Druidic_Rifleman but the tuscan raiderwas away then
05:37 Druidic_Rifleman I don't discriminate against the sand people
05:38 egrsteve read another chapter or sleep?
05:39 NothingNerd sleep with the book on you and test osmosis
05:40 egrsteve it's an ebook
05:40 NothingNerd ah
05:40 NothingNerd well then
05:40 egrsteve so i would need an induction loop not osmosis
05:41 NothingNerd nah theres no way that would work
05:41 wannabe1987 hi steve
05:41 lwq_laptop with steve anything is possible
05:41 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
05:42 lwq_laptop i swear he as that in his clipboard
05:43 wannabe1987 macro
05:48 egrsteve terminal history
05:49 egrsteve just waiting to be recalled with enough up arrow keys
05:49 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
05:49 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:49 wannabe1987 ok
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05:50 egrsteve night all
05:50 NothingNerd night
05:50 Guardianzozo later
05:50 wannabe1987 night steve
05:50 lwq_laptop SQUEAK
05:51 squeak hi every body
05:51 Guardianzozo yo
05:52 squeak zozo when is Cprossu coming is it next week
05:52 Guardianzozo tomorrow
05:52 squeak ooo cook
05:52 squeak cool
05:52 wannabe1987 :)
05:53 wannabe1987 hi squeak
05:53 squeak hi
05:54 squeak were you guys doing a radio interview earlyer
05:54 wannabe1987 yes
05:55 squeak my whs server is makeing me mad
05:55 wannabe1987 servers tend to do that, right zooz?
05:56 wannabe1987 zozo*
05:56 Guardianzozo my server and i have a love/hate relationship
05:56 Guardianzozo i hate it and it loves that i do
05:56 squeak it will backup my win 7 puter but wont do the win xp puter
05:57 NothingNerd Keep an older server around so you can kick it to be a lesson to the new one
05:57 lwq_laptop lol
05:57 Guardianzozo well my servers motherboard went through a fire so i let it have its quirks
05:57 lwq_laptop why windows squeak why not a linux distro
05:57 lwq_laptop what?!?!?!?!
05:57 wannabe1987 because not everyone is cool and can do winders
05:57 wannabe1987 linux*
05:58 lwq_laptop WINDERS
05:58 squeak it was easy to set and get going
05:59 squeak and it does its own backups
05:59 Guardianzozo hey cpro
05:59 Guardianzozo have you been on your gmod server lately?
06:00 lwq_laptop we need to get all tgg members around and do a mad minute at a range
06:00 squeak i will do that as soon as i get my ar bilt
06:01 lwq_laptop hmmm i wonder if my range will let me bring a full auto weapon to it
06:02 ajprog_laptop lwq_laptop: not usually
06:02 Guardianzozo make friends with a farmer
06:02 lwq_laptop its secluded so idk that why, they may/may not depending on day
06:04 lwq_laptop plus im friends with the son of the range president :P
06:04 ajprog_laptop which range is it?
06:05 lwq_laptop eh its really a little sportsmans club in the middle of the woods
06:05 lwq_laptop i dont live in mi so i doubt you would know it
06:06 ajprog_laptop ok
06:06 * lwq_laptop is getting sleepy
06:06 lwq_laptop will night coffee help?
06:06 ajprog_laptop nope
06:07 lwq_laptop damnit
06:07 wannabe1987 sleep helps :)
06:08 Guardianzozo red bull helps
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06:12 wannabe1987 hi JA12!
06:12 JA12 hello
06:12 wannabe1987 hows finland?
06:12 JA12 morning, quiet
06:13 JA12 and I'm trying to start my brain
06:13 wannabe1987 ah
06:13 wannabe1987 gl
06:13 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFYZHLuxXZ8
06:13 BotSteve Title: Very Fast Mad Minute from a SMLE- 10 Shots in 6.5 Seconds - YouTube
06:13 Druidic_Rifleman mad minute?
06:14 lwq_laptop when you get a bunch of people and fire as many rounds at a target as possible in a minute
06:14 wannabe1987 sounds expensive
06:14 wannabe1987 :P
06:14 Druidic_Rifleman see the video
06:14 Druidic_Rifleman if your shooting .338 Lapua or .50 BMG very
06:16 JA12 a biathlon rifle would be quite fast in that
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman there is a swiss one...
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman Streight pull bolt VERY fast
06:20 lwq_laptop night guy, bed it is
06:21 wannabe1987 night hun :hugs:
06:21 Guardianzozo later
06:21 lwq_laptop -hugs-
06:23 * lwq_laptop walks to his bed and passes out
06:24 squeak night everybody
06:25 Guardianzozo night dude
06:25 squeak when is cpro geting here tomrow do you know
06:26 Guardianzozo late
06:26 Guardianzozo we pick him up at about midnight
06:27 squeak ok night
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06:42 Druidic_Rifleman Ok i am off for a walk
06:42 Guardianzozo later
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06:44 wannabe1987 http://xkcd.com/1031/
06:44 BotSteve Title: xkcd: s/keyboard/leopard/
06:44 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah remember all my concerns about that hacklabTo place? yeah pretty much eaxctly every consern i have.
06:44 Druidic_Rifleman had about them was correct
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07:04 Hackbat anyone here read twilight?
07:05 wannabe1987 yes, why?
07:06 Hackbat which one is after the first book
07:06 Hackbat I don't want it in my google history
07:06 wannabe1987 .g twilight saga book two
07:06 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.amazon.com/New-Moon-Twilight-Saga-Book/dp/0316160199
07:06 wannabe1987 new moon
07:07 Hackbat good
07:07 Hackbat ty
07:07 wannabe1987 why?
07:08 Hackbat rifftrax
07:10 wannabe1987 ponies
07:14 Hackbat how is edward not a pedaphile?
07:14 wannabe1987 i...don't know
07:19 NothingNerd If thats your only question, why are you reading it?
07:20 wannabe1987 lol
07:20 wannabe1987 culture?
07:20 wannabe1987 its interesting reading, but the movies SUCK
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07:29 Seroster Evening, americans, or morning, europeans.
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07:59 Seroster Ello LemLap
08:21 Druidic_Rifleman you know
08:22 Druidic_Rifleman Hackbat has a good point about edward being a pedo
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08:40 Apollo11 hi over there :)
08:41 Druidic_Rifleman Hey
08:41 Apollo11 watched ur vids online :)
08:41 Apollo11 we do a bit the same stuff as u geeks :)
08:42 Druidic_Rifleman You know... there was a very prominant military expert from the UK who taught the prince's of wales... There was a big Kerfuffle when they came back from sebatical with a sex change... I miss seeing her in Documenterys was allways giving good info
08:42 Druidic_Rifleman whois We bythe way
08:43 Apollo11 me & my friends
08:43 Druidic_Rifleman cool
08:44 Apollo11 wee meet onece in a year for geek stuff and two to three times for making a radio sation.
08:44 Druidic_Rifleman I am a military and warfare geek
08:44 Apollo11 im elektronik computer and and radiotransmitter geek
08:47 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/83558754_c7c6bbbddd.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://modelsaviation.com/Model-Autogyro-%255E%255E%255E%255E%255E-An-Extraordinary-Cool-Idea.html&amp;h=375&amp;w=500&amp;sz=101&amp;tbnid=JugCQ_qYbAOzMM:&amp;tbnh=97&amp;tbnw=129&amp;zoom=1&amp;docid=4fdAeaVYN0wymM&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=EudqT_x4haWDB_Wivc4G&amp;ved=0CFgQ9QEwBg&amp;dur=351 i want to build one....
08:48 Apollo11 looks cool & would be an awesome projekt
08:48 Druidic_Rifleman Cosider Camp i can walk to the site of camp x...
08:49 Apollo11 but hard to build for a german pupil like me :D
08:50 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
08:50 Druidic_Rifleman James bond is kinda interesting
08:50 Apollo11 it is :)
08:50 Druidic_Rifleman My grampa worked on the base the author trained in spy craft
08:50 Apollo11 watchted all movies
08:50 Apollo11 thats kinda cool .9
08:51 Apollo11 gotta go. free lessons are over. got geographi now. u can add me on icq if u want :)
08:52 Apollo11 433308363
08:52 Druidic_Rifleman just hang out here
08:53 Druidic_Rifleman we have a bunch of european members
08:53 Apollo11 i should join
08:53 Apollo11 hope to see u later here or on icq
08:54 Apollo11 bye
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09:56 HighMan Hi dave
09:57 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
09:57 HighMan ?
10:00 Druidic_Rifleman thought dave was a personapparently they are not here
10:02 masterofmonks Greeting Guest8448 previously Dave.
10:02 masterofmonks Guest8448, You may change your nick to a nick more to your liking by using the command /nick yournewnick
10:06 HighMan Hmm.
10:11 Druidic_Rifleman morning munks
10:11 Druidic_Rifleman I found a bunch of H marked rail way spikes know any thing about em
10:16 Druidic_Rifleman Monks?
10:16 HighMan masterofmonks, ^
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10:21 masterofmonks Means that They are high carbon.
10:21 Druidic_Rifleman thats what i thought XD
10:22 * HighMan Curiously... Is that good?
10:22 masterofmonks Railroads only use high carbon spikes on curves.
10:22 masterofmonks They use mild steel on the straight parts.
10:22 Druidic_Rifleman and at junctions
10:22 masterofmonks Yes, there also.
10:23 Druidic_Rifleman the area was a junction for an old ware house and market
10:24 Druidic_Rifleman I am wonder if there are use's for tie plates cept maybe steel plate targets
10:24 masterofmonks There is always a use.
10:24 masterofmonks Consider this, there should be enough metal there to make a set of tongs....
10:28 masterofmonks Work.
10:28 HighMan Have fun masterofmonks!
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10:29 LemPhone evening all
10:29 LemPhone how goes it?
10:29 HighMan Morning here (6:29), Gots school later :P
10:29 HighMan And you LemPhone?
10:30 LemPhone pretty good
10:30 LemPhone just been to "Hack the Evening" at the state library
10:30 LemPhone helping them work on their RFID checkin system
10:31 LemPhone My little RFID board went down well and they are very enthused by it.
10:31 HighMan Congrats!
10:31 * LemPhone nods
10:32 LemPhone gotta talk to yNos tonight about getting one to him
10:32 HighMan I'm guessing RFID boards will be used to control who can go in and where? (Secret books?)
10:32 LemPhone nope
10:33 HighMan ...
10:33 LemPhone this will be for people to "check in" to "the edge"
10:33 LemPhone which is their digital culture lab
10:33 HighMan Oh, so they can basically "check in" to use computers or the digital software?
10:34 LemPhone yeah, also to indicate who is their and where for groups using the edge for collaborative work
10:34 LemPhone .g edge qld
10:34 Druidic_Rifleman yeah I am going to Make tongs i am not sure if i'll make an Upseting die....
10:34 BotSteve LemPhone: http://edgeqld.org.au/
10:34 LemPhone check that out highman
10:35 LemPhone that is where it's gonna be setup
10:35 HighMan Ah ok
10:35 HighMan HighMan> ...
10:35 HighMan <Le
10:36 HighMan http://edgeqld.org.au/about/the-edge/
10:36 LemPhone well done
10:36 BotSteve Title: The Edge : The Edge | Digital Culture Centre
10:36 HighMan If anyone knows how to freaking disable this copy feature on x-chat do tell.
10:36 LemPhone copy on right click?
10:36 HighMan No, you highlight something on x-chat and it becomes copied for you.
10:37 LemPhone most IRC clients do that
10:37 HighMan It bothers me...
10:37 LemPhone even this one on my phone
10:37 HighMan Why?!?!?! Why need that?
10:37 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.botachtactical.com/fn303pr.html HMMMM
10:37 Druidic_Rifleman XD
10:37 BotSteve Title: FN 303 Projectiles 150/Pack
10:37 Druidic_Rifleman I challange someone to a FN303 OC pepper ball battle!!!!!
10:37 Druidic_Rifleman OF DEATH!!!!
10:49 HighMan xd
10:49 HighMan "Snow Flake Science"
10:50 Druidic_Rifleman No one wants to have an FN303 fight :(
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10:59 Experimentonomen g'day peepz
10:59 Experimentonomen i got a packy
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11:00 dan9788wax morning
11:00 Experimentonomen g'day danio
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11:01 dan9788wax morning
11:03 Electricguy morning
11:04 Vectra Ahoy dan9788wax
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11:04 dan9788wax hi
11:04 HighMan I eat wax everday.
11:04 HighMan Sorry for you dan9788wax.
11:05 lwq_laptop hia
11:05 lwq_laptop wax for braces?
11:05 HighMan No.
11:05 HighMan Caranuba Wax ;)
11:05 lwq_laptop what?
11:06 HighMan That's in food (most) Caranuba Wax
11:06 dan9788wax wax stands my lastname Waxmonsky
11:06 lwq_laptop im going now, you kids play nice
11:06 HighMan XD I have to go to school lol
11:06 HighMan Cya lwq_laptop
11:06 HighMan dan9788wax Ah ok
11:06 lwq_laptop bye
11:06 lwq_laptop -lazily walks himself out the door to his bus stop-
11:07 HighMan XD
11:07 HighMan Have fun!
11:07 dan9788wax 9788 stands for my date of birth
11:08 HighMan Future!
11:08 dan9788wax dan stands for Daniel
11:09 dan9788wax my firstname
11:11 Druidic_Rifleman who is vectra?
11:12 Druidic_Rifleman how do they have OP?
11:12 dan9788wax my irc name is victrolawax
11:12 Sgt_Lemming home now
11:12 Druidic_Rifleman Cool
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11:15 VictrolaWax Good Morning
11:16 Druidic_Rifleman hey
11:16 VictrolaWax Hi
11:17 Electricguy *akward moment*
11:18 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/8uhR3
11:18 BotSteve Title: pc stuff - Imgur
11:18 Electricguy nice!
11:18 Electricguy lulz! you got the same RAM stix as i do
11:18 Experimentonomen the stock cpu cooler is a joke
11:19 Electricguy lol
11:19 Electricguy you don't need bigger really :P
11:19 Electricguy the stock cooler for the i7 CPU is flimsy as fuck too
11:20 Sgt_Lemming if you are just using it as a basic pc, and not overclocking it, it's fine
11:20 Electricguy yeah
11:21 Electricguy outright shitty video of my computer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4CvtZJXww
11:21 BotSteve Title: My current computer - YouTube
11:23 * Experimentonomen uses a circuit board from a hdd to open the boxes :P
11:25 * Sgt_Lemming renames Parked to Parkerized
11:25 Electricguy lol
11:28 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, i was gonna OC the thing to around 50THz
11:29 Sgt_Lemming hur hur hur
11:31 Experimentonomen hm this mobo seem to autoreset a core unlock/overclock failure automatically on restarting the system
11:32 Experimentonomen LOL this mobo has a socketed dil8 ic on it :o
11:33 Electricguy might be the BIOS EEPROM
11:34 * Experimentonomen RTFM
11:38 Experimentonomen uh oh problems
11:38 Experimentonomen the 4gb ramstick is not listed in the mobos ram compability list
11:39 Experimentonomen seems like each of the ram slots can only handle up to 2-3GB each
11:47 Electricguy HAHAHAH! this is soo true XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7lQMBA9-Lw&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G2f4b5daRVAAAAAAAABg
11:47 BotSteve Title: The Typical Minecrafter - YouTube
11:50 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/PU3nG.jpg
11:51 Electricguy nice
11:51 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/QgamF.jpg <-- the tiniest cpu heatsink i've seen since the 486
11:52 Electricguy that's what they look like these days with more efficient CPUs ;)
11:53 * Experimentonomen puts a ziptie on the cpu fan wires to keep them bundled
11:57 Experimentonomen ok lets put this in and see if it fits
11:57 Experimentonomen bbl
11:57 tonsofpcs Electricguy: celeron (1st gen) had less.
11:58 Electricguy yeah but the celeron was a damn toy :P
11:59 tonsofpcs via? ;)
12:11 * Sgt_Lemming has been playing with via's lots today
12:17 VictrolaWax bark'=
12:27 tonsofpcs cork\
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12:30 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell yNos lemming wants to talk to him, pm him when you get on line
12:30 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
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12:37 Druidic_Rifleman http://gordsgarage.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/thoughts-for-food/ i need a base ball bat
12:37 BotSteve Title: Thoughts For Food « GordsGarage Blog
12:37 Druidic_Rifleman XD
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13:04 Druidic_Rifleman Luisiville slugger with an axe blade... I want one
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13:14 hhrlisa Howdy
13:14 einball pe...hello
13:16 Electricguy i wonder how it's going tof Exp and his computer...
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13:31 Vectra Ello einball.
13:31 Vectra Ello hhrlisa
13:32 hhrlisa Gi
13:32 hhrlisa HI*
13:32 Electricguy LISA! let's go to the lab and rip Chris's pants off!
13:32 Vectra Go for it Electricguy
13:33 Electricguy :D
13:38 hhrlisa I'm game!
13:39 angy me too!
13:39 Electricguy holle Game
13:39 Electricguy nice to meet you, Game
13:40 hhrlisa shuh
13:40 hhrlisa :P
13:40 Electricguy :)
13:41 hhrlisa I  will hopefully be at tgg tonigt!
13:41 angy I won't!
13:41 hhrlisa aww
13:42 BitViper hhrlisa : beat batman until he coughs up my valentine =)
13:42 hhrlisa I will do my best... You should check with dave i think dave might have them
13:43 BitViper i have no idea when i'll be back down there =(  between my back and no gas money it'll probably be weeks at least
13:43 hhrlisa awww
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13:44 mashpriborintorg hiya
13:44 mashpriborintorg damn I'm busy teardown down some junk electronics
13:45 mashpriborintorg ... aircraft grade electronics :p
13:45 hhrlisa ok im gonna go shower... I need one...
13:45 BitViper go help her Electricguy :)
13:45 * Electricguy stalks hhrlisa-showers
13:46 * BitViper gives Electricguy a couple of waterproof cameras
13:46 Electricguy lulz
13:46 * Electricguy rigs them up in the shower
13:47 hhrlisa-showers you both are outrageous
13:47 Electricguy XD
13:47 * BitViper looks innocent
13:47 * Electricguy whistles
13:48 Electricguy we haven't done anything!? right, BitViper!?
13:48 BitViper just with keyboards :)
13:49 Electricguy yeah, right! blame my fingers! they forced me to do this!
13:49 Electricguy :P
13:49 BitViper hahaha
13:49 Electricguy brb. need to build some DIY noms..
13:50 BitViper bring me some too
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14:01 Ponko ahhh
14:01 Ponko hello folks
14:02 Sgt_Lemming lo Ponko, how goes it?
14:02 Ponko very well :)
14:02 Sgt_Lemming cool
14:02 Ponko yourself?
14:02 Sgt_Lemming I've had a pretty good week as well
14:03 Ponko it's good when everything goes right during a week isn't it
14:03 Sgt_Lemming had the inspection of our new potential site on thursday which went well, got the first of my RFID boards together and have had nothing but compliments about it
14:03 Sgt_Lemming -thursday + sunday
14:03 Sgt_Lemming tired + brain fart
14:05 Sgt_Lemming .ud jersey plunge
14:05 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: No results found for 'jersey plunge'.
14:08 Ponko spent the past 3 days with my gf in edi :)
14:08 Sgt_Lemming edi?
14:08 Ponko Edinburgh
14:09 Sgt_Lemming cool
14:09 Sgt_Lemming have fun?
14:09 Ponko couldn't get my Hibernian shirt :(
14:09 Sgt_Lemming awww
14:09 Sgt_Lemming poor ponko
14:09 Ponko they've sold out of my shirt and shut up lol
14:09 Ponko my size rather
14:10 Ponko but yeah <statement NSFW and was deleted from log>
14:10 Ponko and we had fun
14:10 Sgt_Lemming I have a fun one atm, I have a burn on the back of my left index finger, and another on the inside of my right write, guess what from?
14:12 Sgt_Lemming -write +wrist
14:13 * BitViper retrieves the cameras
14:13 Vectra http://www.wimp.com/thoriumcrisis/
14:13 BotSteve Title: Thorium can potentially solve our energy crisis. [VIDEO]
14:14 Sgt_Lemming yeah Vectra, that ones been floating around for a while
14:14 hhrlisa lulz
14:14 Vectra Still like it
14:14 Sgt_Lemming there is a fair bit of research and safety testing that needs to be done before it can go large scale though
14:14 Vectra I wonder if there is a catch or it really is that good
14:15 Sgt_Lemming it really is that good, catch is the research into doing it large scale is not to the point of implementing it large scale yet
14:15 Vectra I don't think that's all that is holding liquid reactors back
14:15 Ponko Vauxhall Vectra?
14:15 Vectra Gesundtheit?
14:15 Ponko danke
14:15 Sgt_Lemming it's a nuclear reactor that is fail safe, rather than fail unsafe
14:16 Vectra Yes indeed, so it should be cheaper to maintain, and less complaining from greenpeace.
14:16 Ponko lol there is or was a car called the Vauxhall Vectra
14:16 Vectra Cool.
14:16 hhrlisa im gonna have some blts
14:17 Ponko and me being from Luton other than it being a shithole it was home to Vauxhall for many decades
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14:35 hhrlisa mmmmm blts
14:48 Ponko masterofmonks: my man :)
14:51 * Electricguy returns from ze nüms
15:21 mashpriborintorg yay new photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/
15:21 BotSteve Title: Flickr: mashpriborintorg's Photostream
15:22 Electricguy kinky stuff :D
15:24 mashpriborintorg everything still not inventoried, and I try the get rid of the not interesting things
15:24 Vectra http://www.wimp.com/christmaspresent/ Childhood trauma... It fills me with joy!
15:24 BotSteve Title: 'I gave my kids a terrible Christmas present' by Jimmy Kimmel. [VIDEO]
15:32 mashpriborintorg yay new cb
15:33 mashpriborintorg need to walk out with the dog first tho
15:33 Electricguy huh.. i just found out why MicroDrives from ipods doeasn't work in anything else than ipods... the regular Compact Flash support is removed from them
15:35 Sgt_Lemming err, you sure about that one?
15:35 Sgt_Lemming also, I posted a schematic of the SNARC board if you want to see it Electricguy
15:35 Electricguy something i read on the net. no idea if it's true though
15:35 Sgt_Lemming yeah, I doubt it is
15:35 Sgt_Lemming because compact flash cards are just IDE devices
15:35 Electricguy but windows doesn't even detect the drive
15:35 Sgt_Lemming there really is no difference
15:36 Sgt_Lemming check "computer management"
15:36 Sgt_Lemming it probably needs to be partitioned
15:36 Electricguy no. it's not even in there
15:36 Sgt_Lemming is it audibly spinning?
15:36 Sgt_Lemming what about device manager as well?
15:36 Electricguy and if i try to open "my computer" with the microdrive connected it instantly crashes explorer.exe
15:37 Electricguy yes. the drive works.. but something is strange with it
15:37 Sgt_Lemming try booting off something like UBCD and looking for it with a dos utility
15:37 Electricguy most likely what's called "macified"
15:38 angy welcome to apple world
15:39 Sgt_Lemming "Certain bus-powered CF card readers lack the power needed to run a Microdrive although they do take CF II cards, when using such a device it will usually be detected by the host but errors will occur once the user attempts to access the drive."
15:39 Electricguy lol yeah. mac sux ballz
15:39 angy I still only use apple workstation :)
15:39 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, what are you trying to read it with?
15:39 Electricguy i'm trying to format it to FAT or NTFS to use it in my camera
15:40 Sgt_Lemming is it in the camera atm?
15:40 Electricguy no. there is a CF card in the camera atm
15:40 Sgt_Lemming so what are you trying to read the microdrive with?
15:40 Electricguy a USB card reader
15:40 Sgt_Lemming which may not be providing it enough power
15:41 Electricguy ok, it's a internal card reader from a Dell machine that i soldered a USB cable to..
15:41 Sgt_Lemming which sounds a lot more likely to me
15:41 Electricguy so it's a USB reader
15:41 Electricguy it's surely not providing enough power when i can HEAR the drive spin
15:41 Electricguy ...
15:42 Sgt_Lemming quite often when drives have power issues, they will spin up, but the drive will not read or write properly as the extra power draw to do that reboots the logic
15:42 Sgt_Lemming so the drive basically just keeps rebooting, and not appearing in device managers and the like
15:43 Electricguy i have a hard time thinking that a drive from a ipod mini pulls over 100mA
15:43 Sgt_Lemming the usb card reader may not like providing that much power
15:44 Sgt_Lemming didn't you see the line I pasted before?
15:44 Sgt_Lemming doesn't that pretty much explain what is happening to you?
15:44 Electricguy i'm pretty sure it can as it's compatible with microdrives..
15:44 Sgt_Lemming it says on the reader it is?
15:44 Sgt_Lemming or it can take a typeII card
15:44 Electricguy no it does not. cause i get a CF card error in my camera that can use microdrives as storage too
15:45 Sgt_Lemming where's the page that said they were locked from being used as CF devices?
15:46 Electricguy read it here http://forums.steves-digicams.com/memory-cards-microdrives-card-readers/21884-4gb-microdrive-apple-mini-ipod.html#b
15:46 BotSteve Title: 4GB Microdrive from Apple mini IPOD - Steve's Digicams Forums
15:46 Electricguy it's pasted from Yahoonews
15:48 Electricguy and i can hear the drive spin up. so it's not at all choking due to power problems
15:49 Sgt_Lemming as I said, just because the drive spins up, does not mean it has enough power to work the read/write heads properly
15:49 Sgt_Lemming they can actually use quite a lot of power
15:50 Electricguy but then if it chokes the power supply, would'nt the drive stop spinning too?
15:50 Sgt_Lemming no
15:50 Electricguy and it still doesn't explain why i get a error in my camera that supports microdrives..
15:50 Sgt_Lemming because it acts like a flywheel once spinning, so the drive reboots, the disc is already spinning so there is no noticable spin down
15:50 Electricguy and the camera just reboots when i try to format it in the camera
15:50 Sgt_Lemming because the drive isn't partitined in a format the camera likes
15:51 wannabe-afk .seen Cprossu
15:51 BotSteve wannabe-afk: I last saw Cprossu 10.36 hours ago at 2012-03-22 05:29:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:51:01 UTC
15:51 Sgt_Lemming the formatting utilities on camera can normally fix file system issues, but not partitioning issues
15:51 Electricguy ok. give me some mins.. i'm gonna mod my card reader to use a external 5V too
15:51 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:51 Electricguy IE. a molex plug to the PSU
15:52 angy it won't surprise me that apple use a custom firmware on them to lock them out of anything that is not apple branded
15:53 Sgt_Lemming I think it's more hitachi locking it out so that some dodgy bastard didn't sell craploads of the OEM drives at less than their retail "CF compatible" microdrives.
15:54 Sgt_Lemming which were MORE than the players that came with the OEM drives
15:54 angy ain't they supposed to be seagate in the ipod?
15:54 Sgt_Lemming hitachi from most of the pages I am reading
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15:56 hhrlisa I"M BAAAACL
15:56 hhrlisa BAAACK*
15:56 Sgt_Lemming hi BAAAACL, I'm lemming
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15:57 hhrlisa grrr
15:57 Electricguy ok, now lets see if it works better
15:58 Electricguy nope.. still the same problem.. o_O
15:58 Sgt_Lemming ok, well if they have locked out the CF function, it should still work as an IDE device
15:58 Electricguy well.. i wouldn't be surprised IF apple have done something to the drive..
15:59 Sgt_Lemming so all you need is an IDE to CF adaptor now :-P
15:59 Electricguy then i can buy a CF card instead. lol... :P
16:00 Electricguy brb. coffee time!
16:00 Sgt_Lemming it wouldn't have been apple, it would have been Hitachi, possibly at apples behest, but Hitachi can be pretty dickish themselves
16:06 Electricguy maybe i can use the drive as keychain or something.. lol
16:07 angy get lots of them and tile!
16:07 Sgt_Lemming as I said, Hitachi quite possibly left out the CF compatibility to prevent people buy the, at the time, cheaper music players second hand and reusing the drives
16:07 Electricguy i already got a AMD Sempron as keychain though...
16:08 Sgt_Lemming I have the best keychain ever, Celeron 566, one of the old black PGA ones with a heatspreader on it, with "Lemming" engraved on the heatspreader
16:08 Electricguy LOL nice
16:08 Sgt_Lemming so the writing is copper, with the silver looking nickel plate around it
16:08 Sgt_Lemming also, best part is when people ask me why I did it, I tell em I killed it overclocking it, which is true :-P
16:09 Electricguy lol
16:18 Electricguy hmm.. maybe i should take out the glass platters from the microdrive before i drill uå a hole in it
16:18 Sgt_Lemming nonsense!
16:19 Electricguy i don't have a tri wing screwdriver of that size though
16:19 Electricguy and i can see where the arm mount is. so if i drill in the corner behind that i should be safe
16:19 Electricguy BRB! gonna head out in the garage for a bit XD
16:19 hhrlisa http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/10factsaboutyou.png
16:20 Electricguy LOL
16:20 Electricguy brb
16:22 Vectra .c 90ft2 to meters
16:22 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
16:22 Vectra ....
16:22 Vectra .wa 90square foot to square meters
16:22 BotSteve convert 90 ft^2  (square feet) to square meters;8.361 m^2  (square meters);8.361&times;10^-6 km^2  (square kilometers);0.08361 a  (ares);3.228&times;10^-6 mi^2  (square miles);0.002066 acres;~~ (0.4 to 0.8) &times; area of a typical American parking space ( 10 to 20 m^2 );~~ 3.1 &times; area of a typical office desk ( 2 to 4 m^2 );area;[length]^2;Radius r of a circle from A = pir^2:, ->64.23 inches, ->5.352 feet, ->163.1 cm  (centimeters);Radius r o
16:22 Sgt_Lemming rofl
16:23 Sgt_Lemming .calc 90 square foot to square meters
16:23 BotSteve 8.3612736 square meters
16:25 Vectra Ah, you more or less just divide by nine, I.E how many feet you can fit in a meter squared
16:25 * Sgt_Lemming nods
16:26 Electricguy nice! geek bling XD
16:26 Sgt_Lemming pics!
16:28 Electricguy oh btw. my microdrive is in fact a seagate
16:29 Sgt_Lemming kk
16:29 Sgt_Lemming seagate have done some dickish things
16:29 Electricguy i raped my keyring a bit when jamming the microdrive on there.. lol
16:30 Electricguy yes they have
16:30 Sgt_Lemming the hybrid drives had HUGE problems when they released em
16:30 Electricguy http://i.imgur.com/ZYRCH.jpg
16:30 Electricguy :3
16:30 Sgt_Lemming I basically put mine aside for 6 months
16:30 Sgt_Lemming lol, nice
16:30 Electricguy :D
16:31 Electricguy good enough XD
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16:41 Sgt_Lemming lo SparkyProjects
16:42 GGR Hey all- Mitchell McCoy here. I am about to hit the airwaves in about 19 minutes on The GGR! Please join me... we're talking about technology and science news.
16:42 Electricguy i'll join! :)
16:42 hhrlisa http://www.explore-science-fiction-movies.com/images/deep-thought.jpg
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16:47 Electricguy hhrlisa, SHE'S FAT!
16:47 hhrlisa lol i know right!
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman hey zozo
16:47 Electricguy KILL IT WITH FIRE!
16:47 hhrlisa and she wants to get fatter
16:47 Druidic_Rifleman Sparkyproject's
16:47 Electricguy she's not normal...
16:48 hhrlisa right
16:51 SparkyProjects Hi
16:52 BitViper hhrlisa isnt fat, she's just suffering from a form of split personality
16:52 Electricguy lol! my protoype lab console made it to hackaday XD http://hackaday.com/2012/03/22/ancient-laptop-given-new-life-as-mobile-prototyping-platform/
16:52 BotSteve Title: Ancient laptop given new life as mobile prototyping platform - Hack a Day
16:52 hhrlisa lol not me bitviper  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=F0VtYe4lZ7I  her
16:52 BotSteve Title: World's Fattest Woman - 728 lbs - Susanne Eman - YouTube
16:53 BitViper GAH! *looks around for eyewash*
16:53 hhrlisa lol
16:54 mashpriborintorg did they wrap up with the zerosmoke bullshit ?
16:55 Zozo HA
16:55 TGG-Zozo 15-20 pallets left
16:56 TGG-Zozo then we start opening the plastic packaging
16:56 TGG-Zozo then deal with magnets again
16:57 BitViper oh so youve just been doing the first stage of reduction for the last week eh, but i bet that's reduced the volume by 80%
16:57 SparkyProjects Electricguy: That drive, if you put it in the camera, and connect the camera to a computer, are you able to try reformatting that way ?
16:57 SparkyProjects Like looking at the camera/CF as a storage device ?
16:57 SparkyProjects Then reformat from the camera
16:57 Electricguy no
16:57 SparkyProjects Or is that the drive you drilled
16:57 Electricguy and it's now a keychain. so it's too late to try :P
17:01 Electricguy fudge! the ggr broadcast time collided with another broad cast i wanna listen to. damnit!
17:01 TGG-Zozo well i havent stolen the radio again
17:02 Electricguy lol
17:02 Electricguy yet... ;P
17:02 TGG-Zozo i think its tech news currently
17:03 Sgt_Lemming oi zozo, tell ynos to get his ass on IRC if he is there
17:03 TGG-Zozo hes not yet
17:03 Electricguy i want a Survivor USB flash drive
17:03 TGG-Zozo if he was he would be helping me with this damn freenas BS
17:03 hhrlisa yet?
17:04 Druidic_Rifleman Crpossu you around
17:04 Electricguy ok, a corsair survivor
17:04 TGG-Zozo im considering wiping the damn thing and starting over again
17:04 TGG-Zozo unless any of you have freenas/unix experence
17:04 Druidic_Rifleman wiping what
17:06 TGG-Zozo a new server im making for the GGR
17:07 Druidic_Rifleman ah cool
17:08 TGG-Zozo so when are you comming down now?
17:08 Druidic_Rifleman not sure the exact daye
17:09 Druidic_Rifleman moms comming with me and dad now so we need to make sure her chemo treatments don't get affacted
17:11 Vectra Evenin zozo.
17:11 TGG-Zozo yo
17:12 Vectra How's life?
17:16 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe1987
17:16 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe-afk 1.43 hours ago at 2012-03-22 15:51:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:16:57 UTC
17:18 BitViper .seen slewfoot
17:18 BotSteve BitViper: I last saw slewfoot 189.74 hours ago at 2012-03-14 19:33:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:18:10 UTC
17:18 GGR-Zozo Vectra, life is good and you?
17:18 Monkeh Oi GGR-Zozo
17:18 Monkeh http://monkeh.net/Tyketto%20-%20Forever%20young.mp3
17:18 GGR-Zozo NOT taking over yet
17:19 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: I have lots of varied *nix experience, I'm sure I can figure FreeNAS out, what's up?
17:20 GGR-Zozo i got permission issues with samba
17:20 Monkeh Explain and configs
17:20 GGR-Zozo well permission issues with it all onlything i can get running is sftp
17:21 GGR-Zozo we need to set it up with different users (mitch and doug) having their own folder they can add too
17:21 Vectra Had worse days, GGR-Zozo
17:21 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: That's kinda easy.
17:21 GGR-Zozo and playback machine with read only access
17:21 GGR-Zozo then me with admin
17:21 Monkeh Also easy
17:22 GGR-Zozo none of the users work with cifs
17:22 GGR-Zozo or with ftp
17:23 Monkeh Okay, now I'm not entirely familiar with FreeNAS, but have you added users for the web interface rather than actual system accounts?
17:23 GGR-Zozo yup
17:23 Monkeh And what version?
17:23 GGR-Zozo latest (as of 2 days ago)
17:23 GGR-Zozo one min
17:23 Monkeh So 8.0.4
17:23 GGR-Zozo thats it
17:24 Monkeh Bloody web UIs
17:24 Monkeh I do samba like a man
17:25 BitViper Monkeh : you mean ... in, out, in, out, in, out .... ?? *runs for cover*
17:25 Monkeh BitViper: In, out, in, out, in, out of a text editor, yes.
17:25 BitViper LOL
17:25 BitViper yeah, um, yeah thats what i meant
17:25 Monkeh :D
17:27 GGR-Zozo and all ive messed with is the web gui
17:27 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Okay, uh, user checklist.. disable login unticked, lock account unticked, shell set to /bin/csh, valid home directory set
17:29 Monkeh Damn, this'd be easier if I could actually see the UI
17:29 GGR-Zozo dont see those settings
17:29 Monkeh You would find that under user accounts
17:31 Monkeh I can't get a look at this with teamviewer or something?
17:31 Electricguy lulz :P http://www.quiterly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/KnockFirst.jpg
17:32 GGR-Zozo yes let me get back downstairs
17:32 GGR brb
17:50 Electricguy yeyy! ONE use for the velleman K8055 USB board..
17:50 Electricguy i put a lamp next to my computer.. using the K8055 as a light dimmer... XD
17:52 * mashpriborintorg tries go power up some HP 5082-7300 led displays
17:53 Sgt_Lemming hey mashpriborintorg, just to make you a little jealous
17:53 Sgt_Lemming we have three new VFD modules at hsbne
17:53 Sgt_Lemming including... a bargraph one :-D
17:54 mashpriborintorg I'm not a big fan of vfd, I prefer led :p
17:54 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:54 Sgt_Lemming I love the look of VFD
17:55 Sgt_Lemming the other two are a 12 digit 7 segment, and a 16 digit alphanumeric
18:08 Electricguy i <3 VFDs too :P
18:09 Electricguy that's why i just HAD to buy a fan controller for my computer with a VFD :P
18:14 Ponko .yt Gotye Somebody that used to know
18:14 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq2QKo8n_5g
18:22 Electricguy Ponko, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPHy17Iu6E
18:22 BotSteve Title: Somebody That I Used To Know - WOTE Parody! Key of Awesome #55! - YouTube
18:27 Electricguy nice avicii - levels hardcore remix :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ANkQUFRpjE
18:27 BotSteve Title: Anonymau5 - Next level [HD] + DL - YouTube
18:32 Ponko .yt National Homebuyers Commercial
18:32 BotSteve Ponko: No results found for 'National Homebuyers Commercial'.
18:33 Ponko fffffffff
18:33 Electricguy UUUUUUUU!!!!!
18:34 BitViper see ?
18:36 Electricguy NO! >_>
18:36 Electricguy :P
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18:48 Chipguy moin
18:49 Chipguy i.e. evening
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18:50 Vectra http://www.wimp.com/misquoteschild/ LOL.
18:50 BotSteve Title: News channel misquotes 4-year-old child. [VIDEO]
18:50 Guardianzozo yo chip
18:51 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQTHmVgOZVI
18:51 BotSteve Title: National Homebuyers commercial - YouTube
18:51 Ponko hang on
18:51 Ponko .yt National Homebuyers Commercial
18:51 BotSteve Ponko: No results found for 'National Homebuyers Commercial'.
18:52 Ponko O_O wtf
18:52 Ponko case sensitive pillock
18:54 Monkeh .yt National Homebuyers commercial
18:54 BotSteve Monkeh: No results found for 'National Homebuyers commercial'.
18:54 Monkeh Ponko: No, just crap.
18:56 Vectra Jesus christ, the first hit of a hooka after it's been in storage for a year... The rust, the rust!
18:57 Cprossu all right, I am packed, ready to go
18:58 Guardianzozo yay
18:58 Cprossu tickets printed. Shower taken, hair cut.
18:58 Cprossu room still a mess. oh well
18:59 Cprossu turning off my CRT's and taking my mouse. Later all.
18:59 TGG-Zozo later
18:59 Cprossu oh wait./
18:59 Cprossu fuck
18:59 Cprossu nearly forgot a scsi cdrom drive
18:59 Monkeh Cprossu: Where're you off to?
18:59 Cprossu rofl
18:59 TGG-Zozo the lab
18:59 Cprossu Grr.
18:59 Monkeh Bastard
19:00 TGG-Zozo you can come too
19:00 TGG-Zozo =)
19:00 Monkeh Sure, buy me a ticket
19:00 Monkeh I wanted to come two months ago!
19:01 TGG-Zozo can i buy a ticket for 10 bucks?
19:01 Monkeh No
19:01 Monkeh Try 800
19:01 TGG-Zozo cause thats all my account has
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19:01 HighMan Hi
19:02 BitViper hey cpro, arent you supposed to be headed for the airport, or at the airport ?
19:02 HighMan What is a "Magnaflow 53009" for?
19:02 HighMan BitViper I heard you can have internet on flights...
19:02 Monkeh Magnaflow?
19:02 Monkeh Plumbing?
19:02 HighMan http://www.pro3i.com/shop/magnaflow-53009-653.html
19:02 BotSteve Title: Magnaflow 53009 Round Cat 3" In/Out
19:03 BitViper HighMan : some flights, but usually the long international, not the domestic
19:03 Monkeh Oh, different magnaflow entirely.
19:03 HighMan I posted, "All you need is a catalyst" and then ynos says, "you need a magnaflow ..."
19:03 HighMan BitViper Ah makes sense
19:03 * Experimentonomen rages
19:03 Monkeh HighMan: It's a catalytic converter.
19:03 HighMan Ah I was right! Just making sure... lol And for 80 bucks? Is it even that good?
19:04 Vectra Yep
19:04 HighMan Do ALL good catalytic converters contain platinum/
19:05 Vectra Good ones do
19:05 HighMan ah ok
19:05 Ponko lol Monkeh he is crap
19:05 Vectra Go find a mercedes benz and get your hacksaw.
19:05 HighMan Hahahaha
19:06 Vectra And please don't tell the police I told you to do that.
19:06 HighMan I'm 14... Not going to ruin my life that way lol
19:06 HighMan And I'd reckon it's just platinum platted
19:06 HighMan *plated
19:06 Vectra If you got a good pipe cutter and enough space you might be able to grab it in under ten minutes, without making any noise. =P
19:06 HighMan Haha
19:07 Vectra I think it's more of a mesh, really fine mesh.
19:07 HighMan Platinum is sure expensive...
19:08 Vectra And tasty.
19:08 * HighMan Wonders why there isn't platinum icecream.
19:08 Vectra I'd like to get a catconv for HHO experiments.
19:09 HighMan DiHydrogen Monoxide?
19:09 Vectra Err.. No, not that. I'm scared by dihydrogen monoxide. Ask my wife.
19:09 Vectra HHO =! H20
19:09 * HighMan Fails so badly.
19:09 BitViper that stuff is harsh
19:10 Vectra Yeah, dissolves a lot of stuff '-'
19:10 HighMan I remember how I was such an idiot. First day of 8th grade science and teacher tells me to research dihydrogen monoxide. Kills dogs, tsunamis xD
19:10 Vectra Kills hundreds of thousands of people every year... If there is any chemical that should be baned it's dihydrogen monoxide
19:10 HighMan No!
19:10 BitViper yet you can get it in stores
19:11 Vectra Yes we should! 100% of people who die have that dangerous substance in their body!
19:11 BitViper shit, its often found in acid rain
19:11 * HighMan I'm scarred of chemicals! If i touch a chemical I would die!
19:11 HighMan Vectra Dehydration?..
19:11 HighMan Well.... Burnt alive?
19:11 Vectra Often you die a long time before you hit 0%
19:12 HighMan What if you are combined with the stoich amount of sulfuric acid?
19:15 BitViper nothing good
19:15 HighMan Haha
19:16 HighMan I want my chemistry teacher do to 4 reactions. Sulfuric Acid and Sugar. Sugar and Potassium Chlorate. Soap, Hydrogen Peroxide, Food Coloring and Potassium Iodide, and Nitric acid with Copper
19:16 HighMan and Sodium Hydroxide with Aluminum and lighting the hydrogen.
19:17 BitViper sugar and potassium chlorate ... isnt that the combo used for sugar based amateur rocketry fuel ?
19:18 HighMan All I know is that there is lots of fire and a crackling noise... So maybe
19:20 Monkeh BitViper: Thought that was smoke bombs
19:20 HighMan Though you didn't let me do it monkeh?
19:21 Monkeh What?
19:21 HighMan ;)
19:21 BitViper Monkeh : not sure, had a friend who did the sugar amateur rocketry, i mostly watched and enjoyed
19:21 TGG-Zozo any good crashes?
19:21 Monkeh BitViper: Well I know how to make smoke bombs out of sugar and potassium chlorate.. :)
19:23 HighMan Well doesn't it have to be molten?
19:23 Monkeh Uh, no
19:23 HighMan So.. Why I no die with nosalt.
19:23 HighMan Wait... That's potassium chloride...
19:24 HighMan AH ok. Molten Potassium Chloride = Potassium Chlorate?
19:24 Monkeh Nnnoooo, potassium chlorate is a powder.
19:24 HighMan Oh... Then...
19:28 Electricguy trololol! :D https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/539205_406462819383177_205344452828349_1472084_929549606_n.jpg
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19:31 BitViper static electrikitty
19:32 Electricguy myeah :P
19:32 Electricguy how's it going exp?
19:32 Experimentonomen gwtting this new system up and running have been the worst nightmare of my life
19:32 Electricguy it didn't boot huh?
19:33 Experimentonomen first the damn thing shows the drives in bios, but neither win xp or 7 was able to install
19:33 Electricguy weird
19:34 Experimentonomen 4-5 fucking hours later i finally manage to get the fucking thing to install win 7
19:35 Experimentonomen gurss if i was a hairs width from going back to the old system and sending this new stuff back
19:35 Electricguy hehe yeah that stuff totally sucks!
19:36 Experimentonomen and jup the core unlock did not work, as soon as i enable "unleash" in bios and save settings, the machine just powers down and restarts with factory defaults
19:36 Electricguy yeah
19:36 Electricguy ax i said. really unstable due to a core that does'nt match the specs
19:36 Electricguy as*
19:38 Experimentonomen and based on the nightmare it was to get this system up and running, i doubt its even worth trying minecraft as it will likely run the same as on the other system, if at all
19:38 Electricguy lol nah it should be fine
19:38 Electricguy install problems got NOTHING to do with system performance ;)
19:39 Experimentonomen and since i actually had to run and buy windows 7 for 1100SEK to get the thing upo and running, i might as well waste 3x199sek on 3 more of those 4GB ram sticks
19:40 Experimentonomen and since the core unlock failed, maybe that FX4100 CPU might have been better value for money after all, despite Cprossu's dislike
19:43 Electricguy myeah
19:44 Experimentonomen unless i actually need to have windows running and installing the drivers on the cd that comes with the mobo before core unlock and such will work at all
19:44 Electricguy yeah maybe
19:44 Experimentonomen or i did something wrong
19:44 Electricguy ALWAYS install the drivers you get with the mobo
19:45 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/handgun_reforms_including_allo.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+michigan-elections+%28Michigan+Elections+News%29 kinda looks like yNos
19:45 Experimentonomen i've seen that it might need a VCORE upping before the core unlock will actually work
19:45 BotSteve Title: Handgun reforms, including allowing concealed pistols in school and other public places, passes Senate committee | MLive.com
19:45 Electricguy maybe. i'm running 1.31Vcore on my CPU
19:46 Experimentonomen 1.31V seem to be the factory default
19:46 Electricguy 1.3 was the factory setting
19:46 Electricguy upping the Vcore makes it run very warm
19:46 Experimentonomen and an other weird thing, using any other heatsink then the one supplied actually voids the cpu warranty o_O
19:46 Electricguy i just cranked the multiplier on my CPU
19:47 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Yeah, but that's just because they don't know what you might fit.
19:47 Monkeh You can ignore that
19:47 Electricguy yes cause if the CPU fails with another CPU cooler you are screwed. cause you have modified it
19:47 Monkeh They'll never know.
19:47 JA12 .c 1100 sek to eur
19:47 BotSteve 123.124639 Euros
19:47 Experimentonomen how will AMD know that i used a different cooler ?
19:48 Electricguy no idea
19:50 Electricguy it would be fun to make a fanless PC
19:50 Electricguy but finding fanless PSUs these days isn't that easy...
19:51 Monkeh Sure it is
19:51 Electricguy i haven't seen any in years
19:51 Experimentonomen fun fack, now the cd drive and cpu fan are the only sources of noise
19:51 Experimentonomen the hdds are so quiet u cant even hear them work
19:52 Electricguy my WD 1TB is actually pretty noisy o_O
19:52 Experimentonomen well my hdds are 2.5" laptop hdds
19:52 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Maybe you can't. :P
19:52 Monkeh I can hear a 2.5" HDD across the room if there's no other noise source
19:52 Electricguy then i have a big damn CPU cooler that's a little noisy. and then 3 big case fans and a GPU fan :P
19:53 Experimentonomen well there are 2.5" hdds that would outnoise most 3.5" hdds
19:53 Electricguy the noise level ads up.. lol
19:55 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY4CvtZJXww
19:55 BotSteve Title: My current computer - YouTube
19:55 * Experimentonomen installs 64bit java
19:56 * Electricguy pours 64bit coffee in exp's computer
19:57 Electricguy i managed to get my server really quiet though
19:57 Electricguy even with 3 120mm fans in the front and one 92mm in the back
19:58 Electricguy but it's the VERY heavy casing that does it all
19:58 Electricguy my workstation case got BIG vent holes XD
19:58 Vectra cya folks, firing up the hooka and watching a movie on the balchony <3
19:58 Electricguy cya
20:03 Electricguy GOOD JOB MOJANG! minecraft just crashes...
20:03 Electricguy it asked me if i wanted to download.. i pressed "not now" it closed down and i got a error
20:03 Electricguy fine.. i started it again and pressed update
20:04 Electricguy now when i try to start it it instantly crashes and i get a error...
20:04 Electricguy GOOD JOB!
20:04 Experimentonomen wut does teh error say ?
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20:05 Electricguy i get a whole .txt file with lots of errors and crap..
20:05 Electricguy the usual minecraft crash thing
20:05 Ponko no it doesn't crash....
20:05 Ponko it saves chunks
20:05 Electricguy here it does
20:05 Ponko lol
20:05 Electricguy yeah. really fucking LOL as i wanted to play it now...
20:06 Ponko everytime i see saving chunks i go *sigh* oh ffs really?
20:06 Ponko but when i was in the middle of something i spent a few hours on and i saved it and i KNOW i did it started to save chunks and kinda freaked out
20:07 Ponko but that was when i got back and found out it was gone
20:11 Electricguy WTF is wrong!? need for speed just closes down too!
20:12 Electricguy need to reboot my computer i think..
20:12 Electricguy maybe tomorrow
20:13 Experimentonomen minecraft works for me after flashing an error the firsat try
20:13 astro73|alice did it update today? it was working last night...
20:13 Electricguy yes
20:13 Electricguy 1.2.4
20:16 BitViper 1.2.4 client, or server ? well, i guess would have to be server too.
20:17 Electricguy client
20:17 BitViper lovely, bukkit hasnt even released ANY 1.2 server yet
20:17 BitViper well, betas, but no RB
20:17 Electricguy you can't playt from the server software..
20:17 BitViper yea but they wouldnt have 1.2.4 client out w/o 1.2.4 server out too
20:20 astro73|alice bukkit might kinda busy
20:20 Experimentonomen bukkit pukkit
20:22 BitViper mojang needs to just friggin spend a couple months killing bugs and let everyone else catch up. being a moving target is pissing everyone off
20:22 BitViper i know a dozen people who have all but quit playing because of it
20:24 Electricguy yeah it's damn annoying
20:25 Electricguy and i HATE that updates remove all the mods...
20:29 Ponko omg men without hats ftw
20:31 astro73|alice they're working on a mod API, might be why bukkit is being slow to send updates
20:32 astro73|alice but yeah, some of the recent additions seem extra compared to core functions
20:32 astro73|alice namely, the entire enchantment thing
20:32 BitViper astro73|alice : he means the client side. the server side doesnt kill mods when you update, its the client side
20:32 BitViper and bukkit has nothing to do with that
20:32 astro73|alice oh, my bad
20:33 astro73|alice i'm still kinda new at this
20:33 BitViper the big problem as i see it is that with mojang releasing incompatible updates so frequently, its near impossible for mod writers, server or client, to keep up
20:34 BitViper hard enough for bukkit to keep up
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20:35 astro73|alice the problem is that mojang currently doesn't release any kind of mod support
20:36 astro73|alice the mod process is decompile -> write new code -> recompile
20:36 Experimentonomen BitViper, thats why the minimap guy threw in the towel, isent it ?
20:36 astro73|alice so of course it's a moving target
20:36 speedrunnerG55 I just dont know what went wrong
20:36 BitViper probably, and others have too
20:37 Experimentonomen i've even heard from map makers that mcedit might get discontinued too = the end of survival adventure maps unless u keep a earlier version jar handy
20:39 BitViper i have most if not all main jars since 1.4
20:39 BitViper b1.4
20:44 speedrunnerG55 Huh?
20:45 speedrunnerG55 World edit?
20:45 Electricguy highman is annoying...
20:45 wannabe-work joined #thegeekgroup
20:45 * wannabe-work just wants to cry
20:46 BitViper having a wonder day are you ?
20:46 BitViper *wonderful
20:46 astro73|alice does the format change that much?
20:46 * astro73|alice hugs wannabe-work
20:47 * Electricguy got coffee :3
20:47 astro73|alice oh god. somebody left their workstation unlocked at work
20:47 wannabe-work yes, having a horrible day.  it'll be a miracle to be done by 10.  hell, its a miracle i get even a half break like the one i'm taking now....
20:47 wannabe-work change the background to BSOD!
20:47 astro73|alice *hugshugshugshugs*
20:48 astro73|alice i think they're sending an email in comic sans. we don't have any permissions anymore
20:48 wannabe-work awwww
20:49 wannabe-work its hot as HELL in the rooms (hallways are nice and cool), i have 2 showers to give, but i might try to do the one as a bedbath, they're easier, and families are being too demanding.  and my hallmate is a newb
20:49 Electricguy i want to kill the ass that came up with comic sans.. such a horrible font!
20:49 BitViper comic sans is great ... for certain uses ... HORRIBLE for common use
20:49 Electricguy lol NO! it's just horrible
20:50 Electricguy there are PLENTY of other fonts that look nice
20:50 BitViper i love comic sans, for very select uses
20:50 Electricguy i got a Tron font that's pretty nice :P
20:51 * Experimentonomen yawns
20:51 astro73|alice comic sans isn't bad, it's just drawn that way
20:51 astro73|alice .cookie wannabe-work
20:51 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe-work, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
20:52 Electricguy botsteve like these damn oatmeal cookies...
20:52 astro73|alice BotSteve: tell BatSteve-Away that there seems to be a preponderance of oatmeal cookies in the bot
20:52 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
20:52 wannabe-work BotSteve: baked too many, thats whats up. :P
20:55 astro73|alice .cookie wannabe-work
20:55 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe-work, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
20:56 wannabe-work no thanks
20:56 Electricguy .lard bosteve
20:56 wannabe-work cookies won't hep
20:56 wannabe-work help
20:56 * astro73|alice hugs wannabe-work some more
20:56 wannabe-work pretty much we don't get paid enough for the work we do, esp when working SHORT
20:57 Cprossu hey everyone
20:57 Cprossu just got through airport security
20:57 Cprossu had 5 guys in a huddle around my soldering iron's power supply
20:58 astro73|alice .... really?
20:58 Cprossu yes.
20:58 Cprossu really.
20:58 Cprossu they took it out of my bag, and ran it through the x-ray machine each way, up, down, sideways
20:58 Cprossu they swiped it with stuff
20:59 Cprossu they then looked at it funny
20:59 Cprossu glad I came in early
20:59 Cprossu took over 45 minutes for them to clear it.
21:00 wannabe-work what airport?
21:00 wannabe-work seriously?
21:00 wannabe-work thats funny
21:00 Cprossu sky harbor, usually no problem
21:00 wannabe-work in az?
21:00 Cprossu yep
21:00 Cprossu though no worries
21:00 wannabe-work thats good
21:00 wannabe-work was it in your carryon?
21:00 Cprossu when I was at grr leaving, I forgot about the radio I packed
21:00 Cprossu yes wannabe-work
21:00 Cprossu (THANKS YNOS!)
21:01 Cprossu lol I packed that deep too
21:01 Cprossu RF shielding f.t.w.
21:01 wannabe-work i gotta go back to work to survive (or attempt to survive) the rest of the day
21:01 Cprossu g/l with that
21:01 HighMan joined #thegeekgroup
21:01 wannabe-work yeah.  i'll be there tho to pick you up....
21:02 Cprossu very cool.
21:02 wannabe-work plus i need to call my other job, they offered me a position i like!
21:02 Cprossu wannabe-work: flight
21:02 Cprossu 258
21:02 Cprossu Frontier airlines
21:03 astro73|alice Cprossu: why not your checked?
21:04 Cprossu astro73|alice: because it's an expensive soldering iron
21:04 astro73|alice ah
21:04 HighMan Cprossu 11:37 pm you'll be there?
21:04 Cprossu I'd rather lose a motherboard or two
21:04 Cprossu hope so.
21:04 astro73|alice that's expensive
21:04 Cprossu astro73|alice: Weller WD1 power supply on that ;)
21:04 HighMan Hope you hae fun on your trip Cprossu! Don't let TSA Grope you!
21:04 Cprossu so far so good
21:04 Cprossu no bodyscan this time either
21:05 HighMan This time? o_o
21:05 Cprossu I had a string of 6 in a row
21:05 HighMan Damn TSA.
21:05 HighMan Where you an ass and brung the Security Right card?
21:05 Cprossu yeah I get irradiated enough on the damn flight thank you very much
21:05 Cprossu nope HighMan
21:05 Cprossu I even unpack all my laptops
21:06 Cprossu and everything!
21:06 HighMan *Were but...
21:06 Monkeh Cprossu: When I come over I'm posting my laptop.
21:06 Monkeh They can get fucked if they think they can xray it and demand to look at the contents of the drive.
21:06 Cprossu bad idea
21:06 HighMan XD
21:06 Monkeh Or at least the HDD.
21:07 Cprossu worse idea?
21:07 HighMan Is bringing a chunk of lead a bad idea?
21:07 Monkeh Or, hell, I can buy a cheap one over there and just download the backup :P
21:07 Cprossu omg.
21:07 Cprossu I have a chunk of lead!
21:07 Cprossu hahaha
21:07 Monkeh But I'm not letting them touch it
21:07 Cprossu technically it's a coil of lead
21:07 Cprossu didn't even think of that
21:07 HighMan ...
21:08 Cprossu they didn't seem interested though
21:08 Cprossu http://www.wassco.com/prodimagefolders/02/was-02-189311.jpg
21:08 Cprossu ^ <3
21:09 Cprossu ooooh
21:09 BitViper be careful Cprossu, and keep your parachute handy :)
21:09 Cprossu nah
21:10 Cprossu not leaving my laptops behind
21:10 HighMan Hm... How do they put a laptop inside a X-Ray machine and not fuck it up?
21:10 Cprossu easily
21:10 astro73|alice wait, when has security ever looked at contents of drives?
21:10 Cprossu no issues
21:10 Cprossu the only problem I have had
21:10 Cprossu with laptops through the x-ray
21:10 Cprossu is one time....
21:10 Cprossu one time....
21:10 Cprossu someone left leaky shampoo in the bin
21:11 Cprossu and it really screwed up my laptop
21:11 HighMan Ouch...
21:11 Cprossu the shampoo went right through the only vent in the bottom and killed the graphics ram
21:11 HighMan But I though x-rays had CRAZY strong electromagnetic fields?
21:11 astro73|alice i remember old palms would loose their data if they go through airport security
21:11 tlockley MRI has those
21:11 astro73|alice ooph, that's aweful
21:12 HighMan Then how are the HDs not wiped...
21:12 angy MRIing a laptop won't be a good idea
21:12 HighMan XF ^
21:12 tlockley you need a huge pulsed EM field IIRC
21:12 tlockley but this is stepping into physics that i dont truely understand
21:12 angy you are likely to loose a few body parts in the process
21:12 HighMan Hm.... Could a solar flare strong enough destroy a HD?
21:12 BitViper cpro is 258 a direct to gr flight ?
21:13 HighMan Afaik
21:13 HighMan .g frontier airlines 258
21:13 BotSteve HighMan: http://www.farecompare.com/flights/Washington-WAS/Minneapolis-St_Paul-MSP/market.html
21:13 HighMan Crap I am a idiot
21:13 HighMan https://www.google.com/search?q=flight+258&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&amp;client=firefox-nightly#hl=en&amp;client=firefox-nightly&amp;hs=xIq&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=frontier+airlines+258&oq=frontier+airlines+258&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...8037l9794l0l10009l18l16l0l0l0l9l162l1631l9j7l16l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&fp=1&biw=1366&bih=636&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&cad=b
21:14 Cprossu haha no it's connecting.
21:14 BotSteve Title: flight 258 - Google Search
21:14 HighMan Oh... Then... Nvm...
21:14 BitViper yep it is, i just brought it up on flightaware tracker
21:14 HighMan Cprossu, What are you planning to do? Call all cellphones at once/
21:14 Cprossu nope
21:15 HighMan ...
21:15 Cprossu I plan to sleep.
21:15 HighMan ...? You brung a few mobos and a soldering iron... Why?
21:16 Cprossu why not?
21:16 Cprossu I am staying until june.
21:17 HighMan You want to be interrogated by TSA? And ah... You got an apartment settled or family?
21:17 astro73|alice you come for long trips
21:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you think I wuold be disowned by techs, engineers, and others if I bought a Coby tv?
21:17 HighMan .define voe
21:17 BotSteve voe — noun: 1. (UK) A narrow sea inlet, particularly in the Shetland Islands, similar to a fjord
21:18 tlockley tonsofpcs: is it a total POS?
21:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs: depends
21:18 tonsofpcs http://www.cobyusa.com/?p=prod&amp;prod_num_id=10502&amp;pcat_id=1001
21:18 BotSteve Title: 24" Class LED High-Definition TV | COBY
21:18 Cprossu do you intend to destroy it and video the event?
21:19 Cprossu at least it's not a CRAIG
21:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: no, I intend to use it to replace the Sylvania (S)DTV in my bedroom whose flyback is driving my craazy
21:19 HighMan Crazy static noise?
21:19 Cprossu wellll...
21:19 astro73|alice POS are fine if you know you're getting shite
21:19 Cprossu you're replacing one chinese piece of crap with another
21:19 HighMan lol
21:20 Cprossu at least it won't have a flyback
21:20 Cprossu so go ahead
21:20 Cprossu !
21:20 HighMan But if it hits tonsofpcs on purpose... We have a different flyback problem now.
21:20 HighMan And in this case. I reckon you need a bat.
21:22 BitViper cpro, when does your fight leave ?
21:23 tonsofpcs flight? going to GRR?
21:23 HighMan It looks to be at 7:10...
21:23 HighMan So 3 hours sand 47 minutes.
21:23 HighMan It going to take FOUR hours to get there.... Holy hell...
21:25 Cprossu BitViper: fkught 858 =P
21:25 Cprossu *flight
21:25 lwq_laptop hi
21:25 Cprossu 858 is to denver, the flight to grr is from there.
21:25 HighMan Oh derp...
21:25 HighMan 258 then to 858... So are you driving yet?
21:25 HighMan Wait...
21:26 Cprossu ??????????????????????????//
21:26 * HighMan LOST!!!
21:26 Cprossu 858 is from phoenix to colorado
21:26 Cprossu 258 is from colorado to grr
21:26 HighMan Then where is the one from arizona...
21:26 Cprossu 858.
21:26 Cprossu Phoenix, Arizona =P
21:26 HighMan Yah now I know ^ lol
21:27 Cprossu total gas cost one way would be over $350 one way and it would also be a 36 hour drive
21:27 HighMan So where are you now? Your flight leaves in an hour... Are you at the airport or (don't tell me please) you are driving.
21:27 Cprossu I am at the airport
21:27 HighMan Ah ok cool cool
21:27 Cprossu hence why I told you about getting through security
21:27 HighMan You checked through an hour before the plane leaves?
21:27 Cprossu I am remoted to my desktop at home.
21:28 Cprossu HighMan: I spent 45 minutes in security this time
21:28 Cprossu it coulda been longer
21:28 HighMan Damn...
21:28 * HighMan Slaps Cprossu in the face if he is remoted to his desktop with him using irc on his remote.
21:28 Cprossu I bring shit tons of computer crap with me
21:28 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 45 minutes in security or in line for security?
21:28 Cprossu in,.
21:28 tonsofpcs how th @^*@(^*@?
21:29 Cprossu they were all perplexed by my soldering iron power supply
21:29 HighMan lol
21:29 tonsofpcs lol
21:29 tonsofpcs did you break down  the circuit for them, explaining how every part worked?
21:29 HighMan Hahaha ^
21:29 Cprossu after searching my bag, they ran it through the x-ray machine up, down, sideways
21:29 Cprossu had a 5 man huddle on it
21:29 HighMan ... That's needed?
21:29 * tonsofpcs envisions some sort of duct taped contraption
21:29 Cprossu no
21:30 HighMan I thought x-rays were smarter and took a 3D model...
21:30 Cprossu it's a Weller WD1
21:30 tonsofpcs lol
21:30 tonsofpcs did you tell them to go look at weller.com ?
21:30 Experimentonomen Cprossu, express or custom install ?
21:30 Cprossu http://www.cooperhandtools.com/onlinecatalog/images/WD1002_100.jpg
21:30 Cprossu ^ tonsofpcs
21:30 tonsofpcs oh, i know what it is
21:30 Cprossu Experimentonomen: express is fine
21:30 HighMan It looks like it's ~200 bucks... How much were those mobos then?
21:31 Cprossu HighMan: lol like $30
21:31 HighMan Haha
21:31 HighMan I thought they be like ~150 bucks EACH...
21:31 Cprossu there's a couple ECS mobos, a couple acer motherboards
21:31 Cprossu and an intel atom board
21:32 HighMan I have 2 mobos drilled in to my wall that are mostlikely dead...
21:32 HighMan I need one more to full fill the triage.
21:32 Cprossu I have a few that arent
21:32 Cprossu nailed to my wall
21:32 tonsofpcs explanation for TSA: "you plug it in and it tells you how hot the metal thing gets"
21:32 Cprossu bad idea tonsofpcs
21:32 Cprossu being a smartass with TSA often gets you nowhere
21:32 tonsofpcs did they not ask what it was?
21:32 Cprossu BatSteve-Away back me up here
21:33 Cprossu I told them that "Oh and I have a soldering iron in there"
21:33 Cprossu when they asked about anything 'hot or sharp'
21:33 astro73|alice TSA agents are stupid and skeptical
21:33 astro73|alice they pretty much assume anything not mundane is a threat
21:33 Cprossu I've had good luck with them for the most part
21:33 HighMan Cpro  http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s494/roadran422/IMG133.jpg http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s494/roadran422/IMG131.jpg
21:33 astro73|alice like the MIT girl with the home-made plastic flower and wearable circuit?
21:34 Cprossu well I've pulled some rather strange things through security over the years
21:34 HighMan astro73|alice Who's fault do you think it is? The people who work there or the people who are "forced" to do their jjob...
21:34 tonsofpcs next time I get a new gadget, I thinnk I'm going to go to the airport and ask the tsa agent to email me a picture from the xray
21:34 Cprossu most of the time I don't get harassed
21:34 HighMan Well. Let me rephrase that.
21:34 tonsofpcs did they harass or just take forever?
21:34 HighMan Who's fault? The people who are working, or the one who makes the rules?
21:35 HighMan Ramen Noodle boxes are a good way to hold thinsg in
21:35 tonsofpcs I know I once traveled with my camera (with film in it) with film (again, film) both inside lead film bags, I asked that they hand check them, they refused... then they ran it through the scanner and said "hey, we need to hand-check this, I can't see through these bags inside".......
21:35 HighMan lol
21:36 astro73|alice that's the idea
21:36 HighMan Why the emphasis of film in them?
21:36 Cprossu lol tonsofpcs: I got looked at rather funny this time
21:36 tonsofpcs I even told the guy "there's lead bags in there, you're going to want to hand-check it anyway"...
21:36 astro73|alice that's worse than our customers. at least they listen occasionally
21:37 tonsofpcs I had to wait for them to 'develop' a swab (explosives check?) of the camera
21:37 Cprossu lol tonsofpcs
21:37 * HighMan Brings a bag that has rocks in them with the label, "Radioactive Rocks!" And set a geiger counter next to it.
21:37 Cprossu tonsofpcs: they did that to my HANDS
21:37 Cprossu this time
21:37 Cprossu I forgot about that
21:37 HighMan Rocks of course are fake.
21:37 astro73|alice ???
21:37 Cprossu well they don't like jokes HighMan
21:38 Cprossu good luck with that
21:38 tonsofpcs Cprossu: they might have done my hands then... idk, it was just annoying that I had to wait for the ass to try cranking the scanner to full power and passing it in and out after I explicitly asked for a hand-check which they're supposed to comply with...
21:38 * Cprossu debates going to wendy's and getting a frosty
21:38 HighMan I also need a tag on the luggage case that says, "Not liable for your assumptions what so ever. In taking this bag through your "filthy" x-rays you are held under your own assumptions"
21:38 tonsofpcs mmmmmmm frosty
21:38 astro73|alice tasty tasty frosties
21:38 Cprossu yeah that sucks
21:39 * HighMan Saf enow?
21:39 Cprossu 'Lead Lined bags, dumbass!' decal on it
21:39 tonsofpcs Cprossu: also, I was sitting there pissed off that I had had to buy the lead bags because I knew of this possibility and they probably fogged my film by cranking it to 11 anyway....
21:40 astro73|alice i miss the days when security was handled by airlines
21:40 astro73|alice or airports
21:40 astro73|alice so they had motivation to make it painless
21:41 Cprossu yeah
21:41 Cprossu I do too
21:41 BitViper im waiting for some terrorist to make a complete and public fool of tsa
21:41 HighMan Haha
21:42 astro73|alice except they'll spin it as reason to tighten down the TSA
21:42 astro73|alice and everyone knows it's still easy to sneak stuff through
21:42 HighMan What if you carried radioactive rocks with you in your pants? How would they know?
21:42 BitViper but see tightening it down is actually a good thing, because it will increase the outrage
21:43 Cprossu .g black hole plutonium
21:43 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.blackholesurplus.com/motion-pictures.html
21:43 astro73|alice except that america is conditioned to accept authority?
21:43 Cprossu lets not get into this
21:43 astro73|alice and it's easy to sell something to fight terrorism or for national security
21:43 Cprossu politics for another time
21:44 astro73|alice sorry, ok
21:44 HighMan XD
21:44 HighMan We got a hijacker!
21:44 GGR-Zozo maybe.... =)
21:45 HighMan HAha
21:45 astro73|alice zozo, what?
21:45 tonsofpcs yay free tv
21:45 GGR-Zozo im on the radio
21:46 Cprossu hey GGR-Zozo I'm at the airport!
21:46 HighMan How are you going to get internet on the plane?
21:46 Cprossu they spent 45 minutes looking over the power supply for my soldering iron
21:46 GGR-Zozo YAY
21:46 Cprossu HighMan: easy I am not. lol
21:46 HighMan Hahaha
21:46 GGR-Zozo lol
21:47 HighMan ...Wait... You got the power supply but where the head?
21:47 HighMan I mean you could easily use yours.. But not really efficient.
21:47 Cprossu I do have a funny tcp dump from soutwest airlines onboard wifi though
21:47 GGR-Zozo but yes thats right... i have hijacked the radio again
21:47 Cprossu HighMan: they are both packed
21:47 GGR-Zozo feel free to listen
21:47 HighMan Ah ok
21:47 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: yay, link?
21:47 Experimentonomen GGR-Zozo, link me up :P
21:47 astro73|alice Cprossu: hm?
21:47 HighMan www.trollface.com/grr-zozo/radio.png
21:48 Cprossu was responding to HighMan who was wondering where the 'head' was
21:48 GGR-Zozo http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
21:48 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
21:48 Electricguy HighMan, fail.. that link takes you to http://easily.co.uk/index.php
21:48 BotSteve Title: Domain names | Domain name registration | Easily.co.uk
21:48 HighMan Ik lol
21:49 HighMan Country hurts.
21:49 HighMan Ask mitch to put some classical on...
21:49 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Put the Tyketto on!
21:49 Experimentonomen there we go, listening to TGGR on foobar2000
21:49 Cprossu owwww we're tinny again
21:50 Cprossu and compression losses are startling
21:50 HighMan "Winamp plugin loaded" I didn't know x-chat neede winap...
21:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what kind of processing is on GGR?
21:50 Electricguy GGR-Zozo, do you have anything with the offspring?
21:50 Cprossu mp_fucking_3
21:50 tonsofpcs no, audio processing
21:51 Cprossu that's the encoding and it has no active audio processing
21:51 HighMan Switch to .wav
21:51 Cprossu I might stick an orban on it
21:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what is doing the encode?
21:51 * Cprossu sets mode +b HighMan
21:51 Electricguy an Orban sounds like a good idea!
21:51 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/8uhR3
21:51 BotSteve Title: pc stuff - Imgur
21:51 HighMan Cprossu... Is it taht bad?
21:51 tonsofpcs Electricguy: they only have 8282s iirc
21:51 astro73|alice Cprossu: i ignored him
21:51 Cprossu 8282-tv to be exact
21:52 tonsofpcs the tv processors won't do what you want for radio, especially not for streaming.
21:52 Cprossu it'll do fine
21:52 Cprossu we can screw with it a bit
21:52 tonsofpcs zozo - your mic needs to go up to match the audio from the music
21:52 HighMan That's nice... There goes the sound factor on that computer by 30x... Zip-tying that HD to a peiceo f metal... Nice...
21:52 Experimentonomen GGR-Zozo, turn your mic up a bit, your quiet compared to the music
21:52 Cprossu at least his voice isn't distorted
21:52 tonsofpcs Request:  Please don't play back something that was already compressed (especially as MP3)
21:52 HighMan And that's sata power :P
21:52 Cprossu I say turn the music down
21:52 Cprossu and leave his mic alone
21:53 Electricguy Chris talks in squarewave :P
21:53 Cprossu there is a lot of cliping going on
21:53 GGR-Zozo im still working on the encoders cpro
21:53 GGR-Zozo deal =p
21:53 HighMan I talk in trapzoidal waves?
21:53 tonsofpcs I say buy a compellor :-p  [short of that, give me a call when you get in and I'll walk you through a $0 solution, depending on the encode chain]
21:53 GGR-Zozo as for the mic ill increase it a bit
21:53 Electricguy HighMan, that was aimed to Chris who yelled as fuck yesterday, totally flooring the mic
21:53 HighMan This is what happens kids when the world is filled with people who are babies that have sensitive ears :P
21:54 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Damnit, this should not sound like this. :P
21:54 tonsofpcs I fuond it hilarious that chris backed off the mic when responding to m question about the SM7 ;)
21:54 GGR-Zozo sound like what?
21:54 Cprossu yay pilot just arrived.
21:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you don't like the high end ringing?
21:54 Experimentonomen Electricguy, just after u went to bed last night chris started talking about dicks and shit :/ o_O
21:54 GGR-Zozo yayh
21:54 Electricguy lulz
21:55 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Sound like it's being played through a telephone. :P
21:55 Experimentonomen u missed out
21:55 Cprossu well I gotta pack this shit
21:55 Cprossu later everyone, tonsofpcs, Experimentonomen, Monkeh, HighMan, GGR-Zozo, Electricguy
21:55 Electricguy it sounds like a telephone cause it's only 96 fucking kb/s! XD
21:55 Experimentonomen cya Cprossu
21:55 GGR-Zozo see ya soon
21:55 HighMan Cprossu Have fun! Best of luck to you and the flight!
21:55 Electricguy laterz Cprossu
21:55 BitViper cu soon cpro
21:56 Cprossu *later BitViper too!
21:56 Cprossu lol
21:56 GGR-Zozo we cant fix the compression till i switch from this winamp shoutcast server BS
21:56 HighMan Haha
21:56 BitViper =P cpro
21:56 HighMan Go! Don't miss your flight!
21:56 * Cprossu *out*
21:56 HighMan *in*
21:57 tonsofpcs Electricguy: no, telephones are < 8kHz.... 32kbps MP3 can sound better -- if properly processed.
21:57 Electricguy someone buy this and donate it to TGG :P http://www.ebay.com/itm/RANE-RPM-26v-Remote-Programmable-Multiprocessor-No-Power-Supply-/190655825170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2c63f90512#ht_500wt_1204
21:57 BotSteve Title: RANE RPM 26v Remote Programmable Multiprocessor (No Power Supply) | eBay
21:57 * HighMan Sorry flight has been delayed 1 hour. Sorry for any inconviencience. We have found a major fluke in the fuel system of this airplane, latest new reports it contains a portable nuclear reactor as it's power source.
21:57 Electricguy i got one of those DSPs in my rack. nice little thing :)
21:57 GGR-Zozo a processor will not help here
21:58 Electricguy but maybe the COMpressor in the DSP?
21:58 GGR-Zozo its called lack of bandwidth i can make it sound better but then it lags out
21:58 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: a processor will help.
21:58 exor674 what, TGG doesn't have a OC-48 to the building?
21:58 BitViper we need to do that isp that we talked about mike so we can donate bandwidth to tgg
21:58 GGR-Zozo not for bandwidth limitations
21:59 GGR-Zozo want it increased a bit?
21:59 GGR-Zozo and we can see if it lags out at 112
21:59 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: I broadcast a <24kbps stream 24/7, it doesn't sound that crappy - because it is properly processed (the 24kbps is ~heaac, I have two 32kbps MP3 streams too -- one of which is CLASSICAL and has listeners who think it sounds perfectly fine)....
21:59 Electricguy to compare. this station also streams in 96k but it sounds much better than GGR http://www.happyhardcore.com/radio/
21:59 BotSteve Title: HappyHardcore.com radio - free happy hardcore radio happyhardcore mp3 aac+ wma
21:59 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: no, the data rate is not the issue.
21:59 Electricguy due to better sound processing
21:59 tonsofpcs 96kbps MP3 is fine.
22:00 Electricguy 96kbps MP3 is fine if you have a 20 dollar boombox :)
22:00 tonsofpcs that said, if you can switch to MP3Pro or parametric stereo you might get a bit better results
22:00 GGR-Zozo it sounds great before it goes to the streaming system
22:00 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: then you're doing something wrong.
22:00 GGR-Zozo i just got put on the project
22:00 tonsofpcs either you're playing back aalreday bitrate reduced audio or you're leveling wrong or you're listening to the wrong thing
22:01 tonsofpcs that said, AAC > MP3 if you want to clean upp the bitrate reduction stage.
22:01 GGR-Zozo tonsofpcs, ive tried switching over to aac
22:01 GGR-Zozo alot of people dont have it
22:02 Electricguy totally random! my keychains! :D http://i.imgur.com/ZYRCH.jpg
22:02 HighMan tonsofpcs: Decode this. I'll give you a hint, it's rotten. " Uv gbafbscpf, vs lbh unir qrpbqrq guvf V nz ybat tbar. Npghnyyl V'z evtug oruvaq lbh. "
22:02 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: tell them to stop trying to play it in itunes.
22:02 GGR-Zozo lol
22:02 Electricguy iTunes sux ballz XD
22:02 tonsofpcs (totally serious btw)
22:03 HighMan If you decode it. I'll give you a virtual cookie.
22:03 tonsofpcs (and heaac > aac)
22:03 Experimentonomen itunes is CRAP!!! :P
22:03 GGR-Zozo im getting it worked out we are gonna remove this streaming system and stream directly from the sam broadcaster
22:03 Electricguy Foobar2000 is great for long playlists and such
22:03 GGR-Zozo big boy talk is happening HighMan
22:03 Electricguy what he said^
22:03 HighMan But mommy I'm a big boy now! And so are many other things. But no incest mommy.
22:03 Electricguy ....
22:03 HighMan ;O
22:04 Electricguy STFU OR GTFO
22:04 Electricguy grow up and TRY to be serious sometime... it'll take you much further!
22:05 tonsofpcs anyway, GGR-Zozo, audio processing in anticipation of bitrate reduction helps alot
22:05 Experimentonomen LOL mitch sounds like hes pinching his nose :P
22:05 HighMan Electricguy: I'm not liable if you think I am not taking it seriously. Maybe it's you?
22:05 GGR-Zozo my goal (which ive been working on) is getting a highbit rate AAC over to the server then transcode it to low bitrate MP3 for cellphone useage
22:05 tonsofpcs some of it is even VERY counter-intuitive, but it basically tweaks the audio to exploit the codec
22:05 Electricguy OH YESH! i got higman serious! nice!
22:06 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: do you really expect people to listen to GGR on cells?
22:06 GGR-Zozo .cake Electricguy
22:06 BotSteve Here you go, Electricguy, I baked you a strawberry shortcake cake!
22:06 Electricguy nom
22:06 GGR-Zozo for shows like HHR people do
22:06 tonsofpcs oh, HHR is on GGR now?
22:06 GGR-Zozo as of tonight
22:06 Electricguy i would listen to GGR on my phone if my internet didn't cost so much on it...
22:06 tonsofpcs cool
22:06 * GGR-Zozo has unlimited data
22:07 Electricguy what is HHR more exactly?
22:07 * tonsofpcs too
22:07 GGR-Zozo bills show
22:07 tonsofpcs HHR is hhrlisa and some other folks :-p
22:07 * HighMan None.
22:07 Electricguy ahh!
22:07 Electricguy sounds like a fun show :D
22:07 GGR-Zozo its great
22:07 GGR-Zozo and funny
22:07 tonsofpcs If you want to invest money, you can get DTS neural processing and go crazy... If not, let me know how your encode system works currently and we can go through some inexpensive [read: $0] options to make it sound better even after MP3 compression to 24kbps.
22:07 Electricguy how long is it until it starts?
22:08 GGR-Zozo and now that batman can come up and mess with lisa it will be really funny
22:08 Electricguy haha :D
22:08 Electricguy btw, i saw something about winamp streamer.. is GGR using winamp as streamer?
22:08 tonsofpcs odds of talk of chris's pants coming off?
22:09 GGR-Zozo 0% without women
22:09 exor674 Electricguy: I think he said that it was using winamp shoutcast server
22:09 Electricguy mkay
22:09 tonsofpcs oh, also, if you really want to stretch your bandwidth, disable metadatta
22:09 Electricguy a good plugin for winamp that can be VERY handy for broadcasts is Audiostocker
22:10 GGR-Zozo yes we are using winamp shoutcast (for maybe a day or two more)
22:10 Electricguy it's made by Leif Claesson (every nerd should know who it is)
22:10 Electricguy :P
22:10 tonsofpcs wait, he made another plugin?! for $0?!
22:10 Electricguy he have been working for Orban and he made the Omnia 9
22:11 tonsofpcs you know he's getting paid by omnia these days, right?
22:11 Electricguy yes
22:11 GGR-Zozo now im switching to SAM broadcaster encoding soon
22:11 GGR-Zozo just need a new soundcard in the live system
22:11 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: yay.  You can put stereo-tool DSP in-line with SAM very easily.  It's not the best, but it's free.
22:11 Electricguy i have seen his first ever creation IRL :D a computer from the first radio station he worked at. he made a compressor in DOS! :D
22:12 Electricguy it had a pair of sound blaster Live! cards with a clock sync wire in between them and running a software he made for it :P
22:12 tonsofpcs alternatively, if you want to stay with crappy encode formats and shoutcast, send me a PM because I have a license for a system that I'm not using [that may or may not have some of leif's work in it].
22:13 tonsofpcs Electricguy: he was interviewed by so many people on webcasts from NAB last year
22:13 Electricguy oh oki
22:14 tonsofpcs although Cornelious's discussions around the 11 are more interesting.
22:15 tonsofpcs I stood on the show floor in '10 and he pumped a 24kbps MP3 stream that was overcompressed [aurally] into it... dropped out of bypass and it dynamically recreated peaks and stereo..... I kinda want one just for watching TV
22:15 Electricguy another compressor plugin that claims it works better than audiostocker XD http://www.winamp.com/plugin/rocksteady-2-1/1099
22:15 BotSteve Title: RockSteady 2.1 - Winamp
22:16 tonsofpcs Electricguy: http://www.stereotool.com/
22:16 BotSteve Title: Stereo Tool 6.21 - free Winamp plugin
22:16 Electricguy that's one heck of a plugin :P
22:16 * Electricguy is going to download it
22:16 tonsofpcs :)
22:17 Electricguy i hear hum in the stream
22:17 tonsofpcs yea, ssounds like a ground loop
22:17 Electricguy yeah
22:18 Electricguy that or a bad ground connection
22:18 tonsofpcs also, i've been changing my volume way too often while listening to this... *hands zozo a copy of ATSC A/85*
22:18 Electricguy most likely a loop though
22:19 GGR-Zozo is all the volume too low?
22:19 GGR-Zozo or just me
22:20 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: no, it's all over the place.
22:20 tonsofpcs use your meters.
22:20 tonsofpcs (what console are you using?)
22:21 GGR-Zozo yamaha 1602
22:22 tonsofpcs is that L/R/Mono meter bridge or AUD/L/R?
22:22 tonsofpcs overmodulating
22:22 tonsofpcs (and clipping beyond the OM)
22:22 GGR-Zozo thats over my head
22:22 Electricguy hmmm.. i installed the stereo tool plugin for winamp.. but i can't find it in winamp! o_O
22:22 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: the three meters, whaht are they labeled?
22:23 tonsofpcs Electricguy: it's DSP in-line, idk how to use it in winamp... menus maybe? or options?
22:23 GGR-Zozo theres 2 bargraphs labeled l and r
22:24 Electricguy the plugin should logically be in DSP/effects.. but that list is empty
22:24 tonsofpcs oh, it's the newer version
22:24 tonsofpcs Electricguy: the 'winamp' version isn't a true DSP... options maybe? or maybe it dooesnt work in that winamp version?
22:25 Electricguy hmmm.. can't find it anywhere. going to try the standalone version instead
22:28 tonsofpcs staandalone version installs VAcard iirc (if not, you can grab a clean vacard install from barix)
22:28 * HighMan Wants to punch friend in face who replies to what I say even though he says he is blind and his eyes are dialated.
22:29 Electricguy GGR-Zozo, this track is grrovy :P
22:29 GGR-Zozo =)
22:29 * Electricguy likes
22:29 GGR-Zozo Blutengel - the oxydising angel
22:30 GGR-Zozo oxidising*
22:31 lwq_laptop my girlfriend wants me to play wii with her
22:32 Electricguy then do that
22:32 lwq_laptop its just dance -.-
22:32 exor674 dude, the point of having a girlfriend is doing things with her
22:33 astro73|alice lwq_laptop: masculinity is over-rated
22:33 astro73|alice just sayin'\
22:33 * lwq_laptop laughs
22:33 BitViper and if she wants to play with your wii ... youre refusing ?????
22:33 Vectra Oh the puns...
22:33 lwq_laptop im fine with playing just dance, its the songs she picks
22:33 lwq_laptop bitviper shut up
22:34 BitViper lol
22:34 astro73|alice maybe you can pick some?
22:35 lwq_laptop im letting her pick
22:35 astro73|alice so stop complaining
22:35 astro73|alice you brought it on yourself
22:36 lwq_laptop kinda
22:37 astro73|alice go play with the love of your life, feel free to pick a few of them
22:37 astro73|alice half the point is to spend time with her
22:38 exor674 I think *more* then half
22:39 tonsofpcs back (grr @ netbook wifi disconnect)
22:43 * Electricguy hear some clipping
22:44 * Experimentonomen is too tired to hear clipping and other anomalies
22:46 Electricguy GGR-Zozo, turn the output level down a bit
22:49 tonsofpcs Electricguy: input should be calibrated so that 0dBFS is 3dB higher than the true level (not VU) that meters on the board read for clipping...
22:50 GGR-Zozo better?
22:50 Electricguy yes
22:50 Electricguy much better
22:50 Electricguy tonsofpcs, hmm okey
22:50 GGR-Zozo you  might like the next song comming up
22:50 Electricguy :D
22:50 tonsofpcs for processing overhead, make that 6dB or more
22:51 Electricguy trashcat is now amused
22:51 tonsofpcs oo, I know!
22:51 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: is stream PC windows?
22:51 Electricguy yes
22:51 GGR-Zozo yup
22:51 Electricguy i heard windows sounds a while ago.. :P
22:51 tonsofpcs http://orban.com/meter/ << get yourrself a nice on-screen meter set :)
22:51 Electricguy those whould be disabled
22:51 BotSteve Title: ORBAN Loudness Meter
22:51 Electricguy should*
22:52 tonsofpcs (yes, bob released a new version last week, no i haven't played with it yet)
22:52 Electricguy LULZ funny song :P
22:52 Electricguy HAHAHAH! night humor track XD
22:52 Electricguy i need to try that meter
22:54 Electricguy i don't get the meters to move
22:54 tonsofpcs sart
22:54 tonsofpcs *start
22:54 Electricguy pressed
22:55 Electricguy right soundcard is selected too
22:55 tonsofpcs and you have audio being input?
22:55 Electricguy GGR-Zozo, this is totally the type of music that should be played :D
22:55 Electricguy hmmm it needs a signal on lin in?
22:56 tonsofpcs you can probably 'loop'
22:56 tonsofpcs with your soundcard
22:56 Electricguy line in*
22:56 tonsofpcs it monitors input not output
22:56 tonsofpcs windows doesn't have a good way to hijack an output signal
22:56 Electricguy hrm.. the SB card can't loop internally.. weird
22:56 Electricguy even the shitty realtek card can do that
22:56 * tonsofpcs hands Electricguy a wire
22:56 tonsofpcs (or two)
22:56 Electricguy i got loads of wires. but no splitter
22:56 GGR-Zozo the music is also on the stream (preparing for bills show)
22:57 Electricguy hmm. going to pipe winamp to the realtek card and see
22:58 GGR-Zozo well people were talking about 8 bit music
22:58 Electricguy oh yes :D
22:58 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: So uh, what've you done to break the stream for me?
22:58 GGR-Zozo so "some" is comming soon
22:58 GGR-Zozo no changes have been made =/
22:58 Electricguy awesome
22:58 * Electricguy <3 8 bit
22:59 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: I get a little intro about radiobash then it stops.
22:59 GGR-Zozo its not 8 bit like you are expecting
22:59 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: kraftwerk.
22:59 GGR-Zozo and Monkeh thats odd
22:59 GGR-Zozo its just a mp3 stream currently
22:59 Electricguy if it's modern music with 8-bit-ish sound in it it's awesome :P
22:59 tonsofpcs Electricguy: ggr's current format sounds almost like what we used to play on our weekly 2hr show...
22:59 Electricguy mkay
22:59 Electricguy ok, i got the orban meter to work now
23:00 tonsofpcs "classic rock and video games" was how we described ourselves but it was obv more.
23:00 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Well it doesn't work with mplayer which makes it useless to me
23:00 Monkeh Worked earlier.
23:00 tonsofpcs working in totem here...
23:00 Electricguy need to solder together a audio splitter tomorrow so i can loop the audio back to the line in
23:00 tonsofpcs Electricguy: huh?
23:01 GGR-Zozo nothing has been changed in a few hours now
23:01 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Last time I was listening was ~4 hours ago.
23:01 Electricguy tonsofpcs, yes.
23:01 tonsofpcs i do notice that there's now an 'intro' clip...
23:01 tonsofpcs i know that can breakk some players
23:01 Monkeh Yes, it stops after said intro clip.
23:01 tonsofpcs Monkeh: wget the playlist and then just play the last item in mplayer
23:01 Monkeh tonsofpcs: There is only one entry.
23:02 tonsofpcs Electricguy: just plug the digital out into the digital in and use the digital in for metering
23:02 Electricguy i like Zozo's music :P
23:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: interesting.
23:02 tonsofpcs wget that entry? :)
23:02 Monkeh It's the stream.
23:02 Electricguy digital? o_O...
23:03 tonsofpcs Electricguy: only SPDIF out not in?
23:03 Electricguy both. but i got the analog line in free too
23:03 Electricguy which is on the back of the computer
23:03 tonsofpcs right, but you're using the analog line out, no?
23:04 Electricguy spdif loop would mean a cable on the audigy drive on the front och the pootah
23:04 Monkeh http://pastebin.com/qyUJ3w0r
23:04 BotSteve Title: alex@terra ~ $ cat listen.pls [playlist] NumberOfEntries=1 File1=http://69.8 - Pastebin.com
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23:04 Electricguy yes i am
23:04 tonsofpcs Electricguy: eh, screw all that.  VACard.
23:04 Electricguy one other thing i can do is to use dual sound cards
23:04 Electricguy and pipe winamp to one card
23:04 tonsofpcs but you're going to analog...
23:04 tonsofpcs that kinda ruins output metering
23:05 joe248 Greetings thegeekgroup
23:05 Electricguy hi joe
23:05 Experimentonomen g'evenin joe
23:06 Electricguy but.. how can i select only digital in the orban program? i can only select what soundcard i want to use
23:06 Electricguy nothing else
23:06 Experimentonomen maybe it checks all inputgs and picks the one thats active
23:06 joe248 hello Electricguy Experimentonomen
23:06 Experimentonomen or the one selected in the windows mixer
23:07 Electricguy ahh! found a stereo mix thing for the SB card http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=87127
23:07 BotSteve Title: Creative Worldwide Support
23:08 Electricguy fun fact.. my card is a audigy platinum... it's not in that list! -,-
23:09 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Well, it works in my normal music player. But failing the mplayer test is lame. Anyway, what format is most of this music stored in?
23:10 GGR-Zozo mp3
23:10 Monkeh We need to get you some flac.
23:11 GGR-Zozo nope
23:11 astro73|alice yes
23:11 GGR-Zozo wont work with sam
23:11 astro73|alice what.
23:11 Monkeh What on earth is sam and why is it so retarded?
23:11 joe248 LOL
23:12 GGR-Zozo sam broadcaster
23:12 GGR-Zozo and the new version might... but the one i used to use didnt
23:12 Electricguy something is wrong with the stream
23:12 Electricguy "yes we've messed up...."
23:12 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: It's so crap their site doesn't work.
23:13 * egrsteve just got back from a 90min bikeride
23:13 Electricguy nice
23:13 egrsteve trail is still a bit flooded and muddy
23:13 GGR-Zozo if you dont like it come here and put on what you want and do the testing
23:13 GGR-Zozo till then we are using this
23:13 Monkeh Hey, if I could..
23:13 * Experimentonomen blasts egrsteve with a garden hose to get all the dirt off
23:14 * BitViper adds some laundry soap
23:14 egrsteve I already did that
23:14 GGR-Zozo as chris says when you can do better than you can bitch =P
23:14 Monkeh I probably can, I just can't get there :P
23:14 Electricguy how did the camera crew and that girl get into MY bedroom!? http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424820_364960506876843_100000886914533_1013537_302114524_n.jpg
23:14 Monkeh I can't even look up what this sam thing is capable of
23:15 tonsofpcs grrrr @ netbookk
23:15 GGR-Zozo SAM Broadcaster
23:15 egrsteve and wd 40ed the chain so it won't rust till I have time to reoil it
23:15 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Yes, their site doesn't work.
23:15 egrsteve and adjust the brakes (front is draging a bit)
23:16 tonsofpcs GGR-Zozo: so you're playing mp3 and recompressing to mp3?
23:16 egrsteve and adjust tension on the rear derailer, it's sliping a bit between 2 and 3
23:16 GGR-Zozo ok there site is down
23:16 GGR-Zozo it happends
23:16 Electricguy holy cuntfuck! i need to go to bed! night all :D
23:16 tonsofpcs *facepalm*
23:16 tonsofpcs gnite
23:16 GGR-Zozo yes
23:16 egrsteve so I need a nice evening to give it a tune up
23:16 Experimentonomen gnite Electricguy you sleepy ;)
23:16 astro73|alice that's a lot of speakers
23:18 joe248 i had a few speakers for that pic untill my basment fooled
23:19 joe248 *flooded
23:20 tonsofpcs but i....
23:20 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: Okay, so what formats DOES it support?
23:22 GGR-Zozo far too busy to check currently, thats why im kinda edgy now
23:22 GGR-Zozo we are trying to get set up for bills show
23:23 GGR-Zozo so sorry if i seem a little irritated
23:24 Monkeh GGR-Zozo: No worries. Let me know what it can take and I'll see how much of a library I can organise.
23:24 Monkeh Feeding it mp3s of questionable origin is fairly hopeless
23:26 astro73|alice it really doesn't take FLAC or plugins?
23:26 Monkeh astro73|alice: Their forum still works. Despite apparently years of requests, the devs have not said a word about FLAC support once, as far as I can tell.
23:27 Monkeh Failure to support a BSD licensed lossless codec such as FLAC or wavpack is.. fairly unforgivable in my books.
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23:31 astro73|alice and the website is dead, which is never a good sign
23:32 GGR-Zozo if any one wants to donate music send Guardianzozo) a message i can pull from FTP or dropbox
23:32 astro73|alice is there anything specifically you want?
23:33 GGR-Zozo anything
23:33 GGR-Zozo i want to set up different hour blocks with all sorts of music
23:34 Monkeh Well you're going to get a lot of rock from me :P
23:34 astro73|alice GGR-Zozo: PM
23:35 GGR-Zozo good
23:35 GGR-Zozo thats we want ALOT of
23:35 Monkeh What, rock?
23:35 HighMan /msg Cprossu Hey, if you have read this message. Congrats! You've arrived! Either that or you are in denver...
23:36 HighMan BotSteve: tell cprossu Cprossu Hey, if you have read this message. Congrats! You've arrived! Either that or you are in denver...
23:36 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
23:36 HighMan GGR-Zozo You still not beat up from mitch or doug? xD
23:36 HighMan Or did you forget to change your nick? lol
23:36 GGR-Zozo not yet
23:36 HighMan Hahaha
23:37 eadthem i assume donations need licenses to go wtih ?
23:37 GGR-Zozo no
23:37 joe248 dam i old school im sill useing 8 tracks vinyl albums tapes and cds
23:37 astro73|alice i just linked my music collection. I'm assuming they'll deal with that
23:38 GGR-Zozo dont worry about licensing for the songs
23:38 GGR-Zozo thats from chris
23:38 eadthem hows that work?
23:38 astro73|alice chris says don't bother with royalties?
23:38 astro73|alice ok, it's his money for a lawyer
23:38 GGR-Zozo radio stations dont pay royalities
23:38 eadthem realy?
23:39 GGR-Zozo according to him
23:39 astro73|alice free promotion for the music, i guess
23:39 Monkeh My favourite station over here gets paid to play music. :P
23:39 astro73|alice Monkeh: payolla. big scandal in the day
23:39 Monkeh A huge amount of their revenue is from playing (quite regularly.) new tracks.
23:39 Monkeh And by regularly I mean you can hear Chickenfoot's new single twice in an hour sometimes.
23:39 Monkeh Which is fine by me, I like it
23:40 joe248 ya it sucks
23:40 astro73|alice payolla is part of why charts today are crap
23:40 eadthem so how come pandora has a huge thing about paying royaltys
23:40 eadthem about how o m g   we pay so much more than everyone else
23:41 astro73|alice it's not traditional radio, so RIAA sees an opportunity to get licensing
23:41 GGR-Zozo i have no idea
23:41 GGR-Zozo i go by what he says
23:41 GGR-Zozo =)
23:41 astro73|alice also, i bet all internet providers have to pay because of risk of ripping
23:41 Monkeh His ass, not yours :)
23:41 GGR-Zozo yup
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23:47 hhrlisa-TGG joined #thegeekgroup
23:47 hhrlisa-TGG Welll helllo
23:48 Experimentonomen g'evening lisa
23:48 astro73|alice hi lisa!
23:48 Experimentonomen i think i see you ;)
23:48 JOE248 Hello lisa
23:48 hhrlisa-TGG if you're watching the stream you do see me
23:49 JOE248 YES
23:49 hhrlisa-TGG I'm excited
23:49 astro73|alice i would stop by, but i have homework to do :(
23:50 hhrlisa-TGG it happens
23:50 astro73|alice yeah, paper to write for history
23:51 BitViper is it just me or is the audio stream totally wacked out ? or is it just this song whatever it is
23:52 astro73|alice hhrlisa-TGG: are you going to do more shows at the lab?
23:52 hhrlisa-TGG yes
23:52 astro73|alice oh good
23:52 Experimentonomen BitViper, this song sucks :P
23:53 JOE248 So hhrlisa who your you and why you at the TGG today
23:54 Experimentonomen and there comes chris
23:54 hhrlisa-TGG LOL I'm Lisa.. I'm a stalker... I've been in the captains blog
23:55 hhrlisa-TGG and i know bill
23:56 HighMan BLT!
23:56 BitViper crap, video stream bluescreened LOL, must be windows LOLOL
23:56 HighMan BitViper. A blue screen on windows is to a kernel panick in linux.
23:56 JOE248 oh ok Thanks  i have to review the captains blog
23:57 BitViper no crap HighMan
23:57 HighMan ;)
23:57 JOE248 no ther palying with the cam
23:58 HighMan Though they don't happen as often in windows compared to linux.
23:58 * HighMan Pays 5 quadrillionbillion dollars to the person who can recover from one.

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