Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-25

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00:00 NothingNerd joined #thegeekgroup
00:00 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I think we can arrange that..
00:02 SparkyProjects My workmate took out a 400A trip in a local sub once :P
00:02 Monkeh What'd he do, replace the fuse with a hammer? :D
00:02 Seroster Nah, crowbar =D
00:07 SparkyProjects It seemed a crazy system, in a control panel in a building, the 3 phase breakes were wired to the busbar, that went back to a 200A set of fuses in the building, with the power being consumed, plus the fault current, the next point was the 400A in the sub, which also powered 2 other buildings
00:07 SparkyProjects He was taking out the 3 phase mcb, and replacing it with a single phase one for a 3 amp pump :P
00:07 SparkyProjects He was working live, and caught his pliers in the busbar
00:07 SparkyProjects I had done the same job but used my fingers to place the insulating sleeves on the bus tails without a problem
00:07 Seroster So
00:07 Seroster Timesavings today eh?
00:07 Seroster Forward one hour, so it's really 2am and not 1am, eh?
00:07 SparkyProjects Stupid time you mean :P
00:08 SparkyProjects BST = British stupid time
00:08 Seroster Yeah, should get rid of it.
00:08 Thermoelectric 400A through a pair of pliers? That would have been interesting.
00:08 Seroster Doesnt do any good now when we got electricity
00:08 Seroster SparkyProjects, I sure as hell hope he framed them and hung them on the wall.
00:10 Monkeh Not much left of the jaws after THAT!
00:10 Monkeh Lot more than 400A too
00:10 Monkeh To blow a 400A fuse in the time those pliers would survive, that's.. hell
00:10 Monkeh Figure out of arse moment: 8kA+
00:10 SparkyProjects The pliers caused an arc, that caused a flashover in the busbars coating them with carbon, carbon arc flash, and out went the power
00:10 SparkyProjects When i stood in front of the cabinet while he tried to restore power, it blew again giving a very bright flash.
00:11 eadthem_work exit
00:11 Seroster So why were you poking around live 400amp?
00:11 Monkeh They weren't poking around
00:11 Monkeh They were working live. And got it wrong.
00:11 Monkeh ;)
00:11 Seroster Working live = poking around.
00:11 Monkeh Wrong enough that he probably had an afterimage for a while.
00:11 SparkyProjects This is the busbar (top one, 3 phase), see how close they are
00:11 SparkyProjects http://media.rsdelivers.cataloguesolutions.com/LargeProductImages/R4209964-01.jpg
00:12 Seroster That's one of the few things they try to teach us, "never work live when it can be avoided" - couldnt you have pulled the fuse?
00:13 SparkyProjects We wanted to insulate the spare prongs, so the idea was to slide some sleeving over tham, i did it without pliers
00:13 Monkeh You can work live if it's deemed safe to do so and is worthwhile to avoid shutting the building down.
00:13 Monkeh Of course, sometimes you make a mistake and wish you'd just turned the bloody panel off for all of five minutes.. :D
00:14 Seroster Isn't that like the rule do it right or do it twice? That you save time and money by actually pulling the fuse in the long run?
00:14 Monkeh Potentially
00:14 Monkeh On the other hand
00:14 SparkyProjects The building was full of animals in a controlled environment to keep any diseases out, it would have taken most of the day to get a shutdown permission
00:14 Seroster I flipped the main breaker when changing the exploded spacer in my grandparent's fusebox. Probably didn't have to, but...
00:14 Monkeh Sometimes it's a case of multiple hours of shutting equipment down and back up again at significant (tens of thousands of pounds) cost.
00:15 Seroster SparkyProjects, Should have thrown them on the busbar =D
00:15 SparkyProjects Risk was estimated as minimal, so work was done live
00:15 Monkeh When you have to weigh up a one in 500 chance of losing power during live work with a gauranteed loss of 20k pounds to shut the factory down to do it dead..
00:15 SparkyProjects Not just the cost in our case ^
00:16 Monkeh So yeah
00:16 Monkeh Live work in industrial and commercial properties is quite common
00:16 Monkeh And done very carefully (usually)
00:16 Monkeh Live work in domestic situations is almost always 100% avoidable
00:16 Monkeh I still do work live myself but only simple stuff (changing light switches.. who the hell turns the power off for THAT?)
00:17 SparkyProjects There were 2 air systems working together, had i thought my mate would risk a short, we could have shut half of it down, but that's also a pain
00:18 Monkeh Although one of the biggest tips I can give is: If you don't know what the wiring is like, don't even remove a faceplate with things live.
00:18 Monkeh Because if it's badly loose or it's degraded VIR, you're liable to get a nasty flash and feel very stupid.
00:19 SparkyProjects Good advice, or at least work with a mate who can turn off the power if needed while you hold the wire out of harms way
00:19 Monkeh Yeah, not always possible if it's a badly packed box though
00:19 Seroster Rule of thumb, don't fuck around live if possible.
00:19 Monkeh Unless it's acceptably safe to do so
00:20 Monkeh Seriously, there's no risk changing a light switch live if you have half a clue (and I do, and insulated tools)
00:20 Seroster Rule of thumb, don't fuck around live if possible. People die in stupid ways.
00:20 Monkeh Plus, y'know, I was standing in rubber boots (ok, anti-static ones, but nonetheless) on a dry, ceramic tiled floor last time I did that.
00:20 Monkeh Not like I was anything but floating at the time
00:21 Seroster There was a pilot who survived two plane crashes buy ejecting via rocket chair, but he died after driving into a hole on his bike.
00:21 SparkyProjects Heh, took a cover off a piece of trunking while live, mice had got into the trunking and eaten the insulation, that was a case of immediate isolation of power
00:21 SparkyProjects All 3 phase circuits and up to about 60 Amps, it was in the grannery
00:21 Monkeh SparkyProjects: And THAT'S why you seal up trunking!
00:21 Monkeh Buy a tube of silicon, tight arses
00:23 SparkyProjects We couldn't find where the mouse got in or got out, all the conduit entries were packed with wires, no room for a mouse from what we could tell
00:24 Monkeh It's amazing what they can fit through
00:24 Monkeh Silicon and expanding foam are your best friends
00:24 Monkeh (.. not sure expanding foam is safe with PVC, actually)
00:24 Seroster What would i need to connect to the tgg minecraft server?
00:24 Monkeh Seroster: Minecraft.
00:24 SparkyProjects They can chew through those
00:24 Seroster ....Derp.
00:24 Seroster monkeh, Downloadable from the miecraft.com page?
00:25 Seroster (.net)
00:25 Monkeh True, but less likely to get in if you seal it than if you don't ;)
00:25 Monkeh Seroster: For a nominal fee.
00:25 Seroster Fuck nominal fees, I want it free.
00:25 Monkeh It's not.
00:25 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
00:26 BirthdayGirl there :D
00:26 BirthdayGirl sorry Druidic_Rifleman, i wasn't acutally "here" last time i logged in...
00:26 BirthdayGirl thanks mom :D
00:26 Druidic_Rifleman i see
00:26 BirthdayGirl i had my computer on, charging the e-cigs (zozo's) while at grandma's for dinner
00:27 Experimentonomen g'evenin birfdaywannabe
00:27 Seroster So you can't get it completely free legally? Not even single player?
00:27 BirthdayGirl hi Experimentonomen
00:28 Monkeh Seroster: Well.. no.
00:29 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: Happy birthday
00:30 Monkeh SparkyProjects: .. wow, that's kinda bad. remind me not to buy these sockets.
00:30 Monkeh http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/RFLighting/cb894b71.jpg
00:30 Monkeh http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/RFLighting/7823f423.jpg
00:31 SparkyProjects Is that an MK or an MK copy ?
00:31 Monkeh Copy
00:31 Monkeh They're Click
00:32 SparkyProjects hey Monkeh, don't buy click sockets :P
00:32 Monkeh iirc they're rounded at the bottom where MK is flat
00:32 Monkeh I.. really don't know how they manage that
00:33 Monkeh Every socket I've ever seen connects both sides with a rather large, chunky piece of brass.
00:33 Monkeh I can't imagine how they can get that wrong.
00:33 SparkyProjects Unless they are double pole switches, and the neutral one is faulty
00:34 Monkeh They probably are, but notice the totally dead second one
00:34 Monkeh Either they're just dodgy switches or the internals really suck
00:34 Monkeh Never had that problem with any new socket though
00:34 SparkyProjects I would suspect the switches first
00:35 Monkeh Craptastic.
00:35 Monkeh That's them ticked off my list of brands.
00:36 Monkeh Oh, hey, it's the three stooges
00:36 Monkeh http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/RFLighting/56adaf28.jpg
00:36 SparkyProjects I would only buy MK or Crabtree, MK preferred
00:36 Monkeh I dislike the style of MK ones
00:36 Monkeh Crabtree's okay
00:37 Monkeh As I said, I use Contactum ones which TLC sell, nothing wrong with them and excellent quality surface boxes.
00:38 Monkeh What the.. http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CB7062.html
00:38 BotSteve Title: 15A American Standard Twin Socket - White
00:39 Monkeh You'd have real trouble convincing me those are allowable under BS7671 in any normal installation.
00:39 masterofmonks joined #thegeekgroup
00:41 SparkyProjects Contactum are ok too
00:41 SparkyProjects We tried to standardise the sockets at work, rather than carry several makes, same goes for other electrical stuff
00:41 SparkyProjects Backfired though, we were rewiring several labs, each lab had a consumer unit, we chose crabtree  starbreaker, and bought several MCB's as spares, the next lot of labs we did with the same make and model, they had changed the design of the busbar from the normal to stab type :P
00:41 SparkyProjects So 2 lots of MCB's for the same type of boards
00:41 Monkeh Yeah, I wish they wouldn't do that
00:42 Monkeh Almost everyone has done that except probably the likes of Square D
00:42 Monkeh It's really annoying
00:42 SparkyProjects Square D were always the stab type, we hated them
00:43 Monkeh I don't really care what it uses, just don't change the damn thing silently
00:44 SparkyProjects worst ones were Federal consumer units, they had a sliding safety cover over the terminals on the busbar side, but it was also a slide switch, and as far as we were concerned, was not rated for the possible load you could put through it, had a couple burn out before
00:44 tonsofpcs hihi
00:44 Seroster Aaanyway
00:44 Seroster Goodnight
00:44 Seroster Cya SparkyProjects
00:45 SparkyProjects Nite
00:45 BirthdayGirl bye sero
00:48 Druidic_Rifleman i am off to sleep
00:48 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
00:48 BirthdayGirl night Druidic_Rifleman
00:49 HighMan masterofmonks Can I borrow your spatula please
00:49 masterofmonks No.
00:49 HighMan Please! I need it!
00:49 masterofmonks You may however aquire your own.
00:49 HighMan Yes. Yes I will :P
00:49 BirthdayGirl get your own freakin spatula
00:49 masterofmonks It however may not be wide enough.
00:49 BirthdayGirl .spatula
00:50 HighMan masterofmonks I'm talking about the ore they used back then to "discipline" people.
00:50 BirthdayGirl it hurts
00:51 HighMan Yes. I'd reckon so.
00:51 * BirthdayGirl was spanked as a child. only a few times. but i remember
00:51 BirthdayGirl the pain
00:51 Monkeh Pffft, spatula
00:51 Monkeh BIG HAMMER OF SCIENCE!
00:51 HighMan O_O
00:52 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Grab your hammer of science, let's break some spatulas.
00:52 HighMan I'll grab my iron mace.
00:53 SparkyProjects I got a sledge (not sure of the weight)
00:53 Monkeh The one-handed hammer of science is sufficient.
00:53 HighMan I got thor's hammer.
00:54 HighMan And masterofmonks has a walnut cracker.
00:54 BirthdayGirl i have zozo
00:54 Monkeh HighMan: I doubt that, it's on Cimmeria.
00:54 HighMan ...
00:54 HighMan I'll be fighting with zozo today.
00:54 Monkeh Don't worry, you won't get the reference.
00:55 Monkeh Some here might.
00:55 * HighMan Picks him up by the feet. LETS GO MONKEH.
00:55 BirthdayGirl no, you won't
00:55 BirthdayGirl he's here next to me, don't hurt him more!
00:55 HighMan Lol
00:55 HighMan Oh I saw the blog.
00:55 masterofmonks Actually I have the one handed hammer of science.
00:55 HighMan Sorry zozo.
00:55 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: Don't hurt him no more?
00:55 BirthdayGirl he was having issues breathing yesterday after we got home....
00:56 BirthdayGirl yes....bodens demolition work nearly broke him
00:56 HighMan :( Is he ok today?
00:56 Monkeh Poor Zozo
00:56 BirthdayGirl possibly
00:56 Monkeh Dust?
00:56 HighMan All that plaster..
00:57 BirthdayGirl plaster, dust, back breaking work, asthma, etc
00:57 HighMan And plaster must be dense as hell. 1/4 box 2k pounds O_O
00:57 HighMan Either thator it was majorly exaggerated.
00:57 BirthdayGirl not exaggerated
00:57 HighMan O_O
00:57 HighMan Holy shit.
00:58 Monkeh Not really, no.
00:58 Monkeh Bags over here are 25kg, you can fit say..
00:58 HighMan ...
00:58 Monkeh 36, maybe 40
00:58 Monkeh Of them in one of those gaylords.
00:59 Monkeh That's pretty much 2000lb.
00:59 HighMan And break the lift.
00:59 Monkeh Well, no, that won't break the forklift.
00:59 HighMan Pallete Jack?
00:59 Monkeh It can handle that, that's what it's built for
00:59 Monkeh The jack may or may not be able to handle that
00:59 HighMan Ok...
01:00 HighMan Someone donate them a truck that can lift it's bed almost vertically.
01:00 Monkeh Even if it can handle the weight, YOU try moving that much mass
01:00 Monkeh It's seriously hard to get that much weight going even on a smooth floor
01:00 HighMan It'll take a bit...
01:01 Monkeh Oh, there go the clocks
01:01 Monkeh We just jumped an hour into the future
01:01 HighMan ?
01:01 Gaxnys Monkeh: You're from Sweden too? o:
01:01 Monkeh Mar 25 2012 00:59:46 <HighMan>Ok...
01:01 Monkeh Mar 25 2012 02:00:00 <HighMan>Someone donate them a truck that can lift it's bed almost vertically.
01:02 Gaxnys Oh, wait.
01:02 HighMan wtf...
01:02 Monkeh Gaxnys: No, I'm not quite that weird. :P
01:02 tonsofpcs its
01:02 Gaxnys Monkeh: So, UK?
01:02 Monkeh Ding
01:02 Monkeh Home of the one true timezone
01:02 Monkeh Which I just left, bummer.
01:02 Gaxnys Haha. :D
01:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: GMT is off.  UTC ftw
01:02 Gaxnys I'd rather see it as one hour seized to exist. :>
01:03 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I operate on UTC. :P
01:03 HighMan monkehIdk what happpened
01:03 tonsofpcs Z-4 here now
01:03 Monkeh HighMan: You'll learn. :P
01:04 HighMan ...
01:04 HighMan troll.
01:04 Monkeh Daylight savings, dude.
01:04 tonsofpcs i wish more people understood time, i stopped using utc because people are daft
01:04 Monkeh Yeah, people don't get timezoens
01:04 Monkeh I may not REMEMBER them all, but at least I understand how they work
01:05 tonsofpcs we run 24/7 systems that we manually interrupt twice per year due to DST
01:05 Gaxnys Why?
01:06 tonsofpcs Z-14 to Z+12, in half steps should cver most
01:06 Monkeh In other news
01:06 Monkeh I love watching Gibroni go.
01:07 BirthdayGirl gibroni smash?
01:07 Monkeh Gibroni bash
01:07 BirthdayGirl and i'm going to open a git now....
01:07 BirthdayGirl bbl
01:07 BirthdayGirl Monkeh: you on fb?
01:07 tonsofpcs Gaxnys: so operators see local time. Zis too abstract
01:07 Monkeh Nope
01:07 * Monkeh waits for HighMan to rage
01:08 HighMan I'm raging?
01:08 HighMan I'm playing mimecraft with my friends.
01:08 Gaxnys tonsofpcs: Oh, okay.
01:08 HighMan You are nothing to me.
01:08 Monkeh And you've just stumbled blindly onto the reason I didn't answer your questions.
01:09 tonsofpcs Gaxnys: having the 8pm event occur at 2000 is hard enough.  having it happen at 0000 some parts of the year and 0100 others...
01:09 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Me no understand, me blond office worker
01:10 Gaxnys tonsofpcs: And why does that matter?
01:10 HighMan monkeh: YOU KNOW NOTHING FOR NOT NOTICING THAT IFGAF.
01:10 Monkeh Gaxnys: Because me no understand, me blond office worker.
01:10 Monkeh There he goes, raging
01:11 Gaxnys Monkeh: Uh?
01:11 tonsofpcs Gaxnys: because the 8pm event must happen at 8pm
01:11 Monkeh It's like a wind up toy.
01:11 BirthdayGirl ooo
01:11 BirthdayGirl Monkeh: why not?
01:12 BirthdayGirl and i got victorias secret perfumes for my birthday :D
01:12 Gaxnys tonsofpcs: so it's impossible to have it happen 1 hour earlier like everything else in a society with DST?
01:12 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: It bothers me, and I don't really need 'social networking'
01:12 Monkeh Gaxnys: DST? clock says 8, must be 8. Everywhere.
01:12 Monkeh Even in different countries. Must be 8. Clock says it's 8.
01:12 BirthdayGirl ahhhh ok
01:12 Monkeh Gaxnys: Remember: People are stupid.
01:12 tonsofpcs ^
01:13 Gaxnys Monkeh: Ah, right.
01:13 Gaxnys I like that china has one timezone btw.
01:13 Monkeh Gaxnys: The concept of different timezones is hard for many people. The concept of DST which starts at different times is even worse.
01:14 tonsofpcs it's easier to manually run things through time cange than to get sched/op staff to do math
01:14 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: I'm on Google+, though.
01:14 tonsofpcs Monkeh: they all start at 2am here...
01:14 masterofmonks I personally think that there should be one world time, and people would just have to know what time of day it is for whatever location.
01:15 tonsofpcs mind you, the next tz's 2am is an hour later
01:15 Monkeh tonsofpcs: No, I mean different times of the year.
01:15 tonsofpcs masterofmonks++
01:15 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It can be DST here but not in another country, widening the gap.
01:15 Thermoelectric masterofmonks, Then you'd have people fighting over which should be the time it is based on.
01:15 Gaxnys Monkeh: It's not really that hard. One hour is moved from a specific point during spring to a specific point in time during autumn. Like, it really moves.
01:15 Gaxnys :D
01:15 Monkeh Thermoelectric: UTC, which is GMT. Because we rock and invented time. ;)
01:15 masterofmonks I mean then people might actually have to know something about the planet, and the other people on it if that was the case...
01:16 tonsofpcs Thermoelectric: why? most of europe and the americas have timebase set on UTC (Zulu).
01:16 tonsofpcs Monkeh: utc is not gmt
01:16 Thermoelectric Because people fight over stupid things, I wouldn't be surprised if one country said "We don't like GMT, we'll make our own time".
01:16 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It's close enough!
01:17 Gaxnys tonsofpcs: Differs by less than 1 second.
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01:17 tonsofpcs they can be up to abt 2s different at any time!
01:17 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Hell, most references to 'GMT' are actually just raw UTC now anyway.
01:17 Monkeh GMT is deprecated
01:17 tonsofpcs Thermoelectric: that country is Swatch
01:17 Monkeh Thermoelectric: That'd be the US, then.
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01:18 tonsofpcs Monkeh: nah, we're UTC based. our military runs on Z, flights run on Z, i'd bet even trains (the reason for TZ) run on Z
01:19 Monkeh I know, I'm just picking on the US
01:19 Monkeh You still use imperial, you barbarians.
01:19 Thermoelectric See, it's something people will argue about.
01:19 tonsofpcs .g swatch time
01:19 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
01:19 Thermoelectric Monkeh, metricated is awesome, ain't it? :P
01:19 Monkeh It's sanity.
01:20 tonsofpcs Monkeh: miles are natural!
01:20 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Only nautical ones.
01:20 masterofmonks Monkeh, Not any more sane than imperial, you just have to know what language you are speaking.
01:20 Monkeh But we still use miles, I'm okay with that.
01:20 Monkeh masterofmonks: Take your beloved fractions and ram them where the sun don't shine. Thanks. :P
01:21 Thermoelectric Hehe
01:21 masterofmonks 1/10 is a fraction, thank you very much.
01:21 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, that's why they were my example
01:21 Monkeh masterofmonks: Yes, but we don't go around with 5/8th this, 7/16th that.
01:21 tonsofpcs do you know how many meters in a mile?
01:21 Gaxnys actually, it saves a whole lot of pain having everything (well, almost) metrecated.
01:22 Monkeh tonsofpcs: 1600 if rough, 1609.344 if you want a bit more precision.
01:22 tonsofpcs no, you use 5625...
01:22 masterofmonks Oh, and you can take your inane British attitude and just remember that it was the whole "The sun never sets on this British empire" that caused this whold problem.
01:22 tonsofpcs Monkeh: and yet: 5280 ft
01:22 Monkeh Hey, the attitude is just for show :P
01:22 masterofmonks whole*
01:22 Monkeh Honestly, I want out of this damn country
01:23 Gaxnys Monkeh: Move to Sweden then. ;)
01:23 masterofmonks Why, because pocket knives cause crime there?
01:23 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, and a kilometre is.. 1000 metres.
01:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: i hear canada praises the monarchy more than britain
01:23 Thermoelectric Come to Australia!
01:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: bt you use miles and meters!
01:24 Gaxnys masterofmonks: Pocket knives for no apparent reason, yes.
01:24 masterofmonks Gaxnys, I carry a pocket knife at all times.
01:24 tonsofpcs i thought ice cream caused crime....
01:24 Gaxnys Oh, wait.
01:24 Gaxnys I'm tired. :c
01:24 masterofmonks Because they are too damn handy.
01:24 Monkeh That, the fact that our economy is essentially gone, that I either have to live in the arse end of nowhere or in what we call a city, which is, in my books, a human garbage site
01:24 masterofmonks I find at least 10 uses for mine a day.
01:25 Monkeh masterofmonks: I carry one legal one and one technically illegal one.
01:25 Monkeh I don't care that they consider it illegal because it's useful and actually, my interpretation of the law differs.
01:25 masterofmonks What is illegal about the illegal one?
01:25 Monkeh It locks.
01:25 * masterofmonks blinks...
01:25 tonsofpcs mine is just under the limit/requirement to be registered as a weapon in NY
01:25 masterofmonks I have an assisted opening locking knife...
01:26 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: aye, that's what i have
01:26 Monkeh Yes, a locking blade is, according to _one_ interpretation of the law, a fixed blade and as such illegal to carry without a valid purpose.
01:26 masterofmonks .g kershaw needs work
01:26 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-Injection-Molded-Polyimide-Sandvik-Stainless-Steel/dp/B001EC4RTI
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01:26 Monkeh masterofmonks: I carry one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-10-813-Quickslide-3Sport-Knife/dp/B0015O2RLA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1332638795&amp;sr=8-2
01:26 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Stanley #10-813 Quickslide 3Sport Knife: Car Electronics
01:27 Monkeh I don't care what they think about the utility blade or the lock, I'm not planning on stabbing someone with it.
01:27 tonsofpcs interesting, as knives that open without assistance and do not lock are illegal/weapons here
01:27 Nebster you say that now...
01:28 masterofmonks Wait, that is illegal there?
01:28 tonsofpcs .g gerber paraframe
01:28 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.gerbergear.com/Essentials/Knives/Paraframe-I-knife_22-48443
01:28 Monkeh masterofmonks: My Stanley?
01:28 masterofmonks Monkeh, Ja.
01:29 Monkeh To carry without a valid reason (ie. working or taking it somewhere)? Yes.
01:29 tonsofpcs ^ essentially what i have (mine is 0.02" shorter and has a different brand stamped on it)
01:29 Monkeh masterofmonks: It's ridiculous and I don't agree with that interpretation of the law. So I just carry it if I want to.
01:30 Monkeh Even my really small one is illegal because it locks.
01:30 Monkeh I don't care, I always have one of the two.
01:31 Monkeh masterofmonks: I could also get fucked for life with a firearms offense if someone gets startled by me firing an air rifle in my own garden and decides to complain.
01:31 BotSteve BatSteve: Happy Birthday Wannabe!
01:31 BirthdayGirl thanks BotSteve
01:31 BotSteve You're welcome, BirthdayGirl
01:32 BatSteve wait
01:32 BatSteve wtf?
01:32 BirthdayGirl ...
01:32 BatSteve did I not already wish you a happy birthday?
01:33 NothingNerd Happy Annual Celebration of the start of your life!
01:33 tonsofpcs in nj, paintball guns are guns and have to be transported in a proper case....
01:33 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, I believe that's technically the case for airsoft guns and paintball guns over here, also.
01:34 Monkeh It certainly is for air 'weapons' (read: air pistols <6ft/lb and air rifles <12ft/lb muzzle energy)
01:34 Monkeh No I'm not sure what that is in joules.
01:34 Monkeh (which is what I usually use)
01:34 Gaxnys German police confiscated paintball guns because it is possible to make them go too fast. ._.
01:34 Zozo-Laptop joined #thegeekgroup
01:34 Monkeh Hey Zozo-Laptop
01:35 Zozo-Laptop yo
01:35 tonsofpcs Monkeh: the story of how i learned thus is good but i cant type it on this
01:35 Monkeh Still dying?
01:35 Gaxnys Zozo-Laptop: How's the transfer going?
01:35 Zozo-Laptop not at the lab today so i dunno
01:35 Gaxnys Oh, okay.
01:35 Zozo-Laptop and yes my back is still killing me (hence not going to the lab
01:36 Monkeh :{
01:36 Monkeh Zozo-Laptop: Desk work for you methinks :)
01:36 Zozo-Laptop whats what im good at
01:36 * Monkeh is good at everything
01:36 BirthdayGirl even demolition?
01:37 Monkeh I was laughing at Cory in the geekhouse.
01:37 BirthdayGirl then get over here...
01:37 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: I'm 6'3", 250lb, and can swing a crowbar like a baseball bat. So yes. :)
01:37 BirthdayGirl hurry up and get over here then
01:37 Monkeh GET ME A TICKET!
01:38 Monkeh If I had the money to get over there I'd be there already
01:38 BirthdayGirl i don't have money!  how much do you have?
01:38 BirthdayGirl i cannot support everyone
01:38 Monkeh Uh, far less than I need
01:38 Monkeh I'm pretty much broke right now
01:38 * NeWtoz is the spaghetti bridge champion
01:39 BirthdayGirl o?
01:39 Gaxnys my server is blinking away happily, sending music across gle globe. And with that, I'm going to bed. Gnite
01:39 BirthdayGirl NeWtoz, why don't you go to the lab anymore?
01:39 Gaxnys the*
01:39 Zozo-Laptop night dude
01:39 Monkeh Night Gaxnys
01:40 NeWtoz because I believe myself to be too busy
01:40 BirthdayGirl ahhh
01:40 BirthdayGirl thats sad
01:40 BirthdayGirl you should fix that
01:40 tonsofpcs NeWtoz: will to disbelieve
01:41 NeWtoz well, one of the major events that was tying me up two days a week is over
01:41 BirthdayGirl thats good
01:41 BirthdayGirl i'll be at the lab, body willing, monday and tuesday
01:41 Monkeh Careful saying things like that
01:41 NeWtoz if I'm not still in Big Rapids then, I want to stop by
01:42 NeWtoz I'd prefer to work on a geek house then the lab
01:42 tonsofpcs big rapids sounds prettyclose
01:42 Monkeh NeWtoz: You can't be worse than Cory, get in there. ;)
01:42 NeWtoz big rapids is an hour drive
01:42 NeWtoz to/from grand rapids
01:42 tonsofpcs ya, thats close
01:42 BirthdayGirl we'd love you to work on gh5  so zozo doesn't have to :D
01:43 Zozo-Laptop yup you are now my replacement for gh5
01:43 Monkeh I really want to make it over this year
01:43 BirthdayGirl you will
01:43 Monkeh I know I can't be over there at the end of June, though
01:43 Monkeh Much more pressing event to attend
01:43 tonsofpcs ?
01:43 Zozo-Laptop monkeh with any luck ill have a house soom for any out of town members to crash at
01:44 Monkeh tonsofpcs: http://www.tankmuseum.org/ixbin/indexplus?record=ART3153
01:44 BotSteve Title: Welcome to the Tank Museum - Home of the Tank - Tankfest 2012 – 10th Anniversary Show!
01:44 tonsofpcs heh
01:44 Zozo-Laptop so that should help (instead of also paying for a hotel)
01:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh: fly to the states for defcon, stay for tgg
01:44 Monkeh Saturday June 30th: I'm there.
01:45 tonsofpcs i'm on a mountain that day
01:46 Monkeh Haven't been there since 2008
01:47 Monkeh Zozo-Laptop: Excellent, I'll need a place to crash. :)
01:47 BirthdayGirl :)
01:47 Monkeh Save me couch hopping, because I intend to stay as long as I possibly can
01:48 BirthdayGirl yep.  we can reserve one for you :)
01:48 Monkeh Best be a nice long one
01:48 tonsofpcs i travel with a cot now
01:48 Monkeh http://monkeh.net/images/Bovington/IMG_4401.jpg
01:48 Monkeh I got some epic sunburn that day.
01:49 BirthdayGirl long one what, couch?
01:49 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: Yes.
01:49 BirthdayGirl you're not THAT tall....
01:49 BirthdayGirl you're only 6'3"
01:49 Monkeh I'm too tall for a two seater, I can tell you that.
01:49 BirthdayGirl well, duh
01:49 NeWtoz everyone is too tall for a love seat
01:49 BirthdayGirl not me....i curl up to sleep :P
01:50 Monkeh Most three seaters are too short for me.
01:50 BirthdayGirl lol
01:50 BirthdayGirl we'll figure something out
01:50 Monkeh Yeah, it's not a huge issue, so long as there's a roof
01:50 tonsofpcs http://www.slumberjack.com/p-577-emergency-cot.aspx
01:50 BotSteve Title: Slumberjack Emergency Cot | Camp Furniture | Camp Beds | Cots
01:51 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I.. would break that.
01:51 tonsofpcs Monkeh: remembner, we're fat americans, if it cant sleep you, it cant sit 3 of us
01:51 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Hey, I'm a fat brit!
01:52 BirthdayGirl lol
01:52 BirthdayGirl batman, dave, and ?? fit on it?
01:52 tonsofpcs Monkeh: no you wouldnt
01:52 Monkeh Although the picture doesn't make that so clear
01:52 Monkeh Seeing as I'm standing in front of a bloody Pershing
01:52 Monkeh Some people have this crazy idea that the Pershing is a medium tank and as such not that big
01:53 Monkeh It's.. quite big.
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01:53 BirthdayGirl hi Ender
01:53 BirthdayGirl and Monkeh: photo  of yourself?
01:54 Monkeh BirthdayGirl: Yes, that's me.
01:54 BirthdayGirl i missed something, where?
01:54 Monkeh Here: http://monkeh.net/images/Bovington/IMG_4401.jpg
01:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: they''re comfy too
01:55 Ender lo BirthdayGirl (happy birthday! I guess? :)
01:55 BirthdayGirl yep.  its wannabe's birthday....so i switched nicks for the day :D
01:55 BirthdayGirl ahhhhh.  keep druid away from the tank, ok?
01:55 Monkeh :)
01:55 Monkeh Which one?
01:55 tonsofpcs all
01:56 BirthdayGirl any
01:56 Monkeh There are a couple there.
01:56 BirthdayGirl and any weapons of mass/uber destruction
01:56 Monkeh There are, uh, around 300, actually.
01:56 BirthdayGirl keep him away, for the love of all that is holy
01:57 tonsofpcs what use does an island have for tanks....
01:57 Monkeh Oooh, Black Prince will be running this year
01:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Why, gawking at.
01:57 tonsofpcs Monkeh: are any of them british made?
01:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Quite a lot of them.
01:58 Monkeh Nearly every armoured vehicle we've ever fielded or prototyped is on display at Bovington
01:58 Monkeh They even have a Challenger 2
01:58 tonsofpcs ?
01:58 Monkeh You don't know what a Challenger 2 is, or?
01:58 tonsofpcs misile?
01:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It's a main battle tank.
01:59 tonsofpcs #$@^ keyboad
01:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Our version of an Abrams, or a Leopard 2, or a Leclerc.
02:00 tonsofpcs Monkeh: i grew up wtching caravsns go from west point to fort dix, down the highwy
02:00 tonsofpcs ah ok
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02:01 Monkeh Your Abrams? You used a prototype of the armour we finalised for the Challenger 2.
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02:02 Monkeh Also, they have (and I got to see in 2008) the worlds only running Tiger.
02:02 Monkeh I imagine most any male at the lab would have a good time.
02:02 Monkeh Perhaps we should try and organise a TGG expedition :P
02:04 tonsofpcs just get one donated
02:04 Monkeh heh
02:04 Monkeh Yeah, the lab needs a tank
02:05 Monkeh But you're not getting one shipped from Bovington
02:05 Monkeh You have ANY idea what that costs? :D
02:05 Monkeh These things won't even fit in a shipping container!
02:05 tonsofpcs ship it like a jeep
02:05 Monkeh Oh, I know what you need though
02:05 Monkeh I think Boden is the only living human who can jam himself in one
02:06 Monkeh And would be able to kill the enemy just by swearing in their direction
02:06 tonsofpcs (yuou do know how to ship a jeep, right?)
02:06 Monkeh Enlighten me
02:06 Monkeh We don't use those hilarious things over here. :P
02:07 * BirthdayGirl has thin mints
02:07 tonsofpcs me too!
02:07 Monkeh tonsofpcs: http://www.tankmuseum.org/ixbin/indexplus?_IXSS_=_IXMENU_%3dVehicles%26_IXACTION_%3dSUMMARY%26%253atext%3d%2522WW2%2bHall%2522%2bin%2bmus_current_location_Section%2bindex%2bmus_text_location%26_IXMAXHITS_%3d12%26%2524%2bwith%2bmus_catalogue%3d%252e%26_IXFPFX_%3dtemplates%252ffull%252ftvod%252ft%26%253amus_administration_name%3dVEH&amp;_IXFIRST_=26&amp;_IXSPFX_=templates/full/tvod/t&amp;_IXMAXHITS_=1&amp;submit-button=summary&amp;_IXSESSION_=&amp;_IXMENU_=top
02:07 BotSteve Title: Welcome to the Tank Museum - Home of the Tank - Virtual Museum
02:07 Ender Luke Morse is livestreaming ! O.o
02:07 Ender http://www.blogtv.com/people/lukifer
02:07 BotSteve Title: lukifer - lukifer Live - blogTV
02:07 Monkeh You so need that at the lab.
02:08 Ender amagad O.o
02:08 coleco Ok
02:08 coleco So i'm allergic to wheat, what can I buy that isent rum
02:08 coleco Brandy
02:08 coleco and..
02:08 coleco uh...
02:08 coleco Potato vodka?
02:09 BirthdayGirl good luck hun
02:09 BirthdayGirl gluten free?
02:09 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Unfortunately, you'll never get a Praying Mantis at the lab.
02:09 coleco I dont want to go buy more rum....
02:10 coleco BirthdayGirl: probbaly, insurance is messed up right now, but probbaly.
02:10 BirthdayGirl ah.  sorry to hear that.  i have quite a few GF/celiac friends
02:10 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M*A*S*H_characters#Radar_O.27Reilly
02:10 BotSteve Title: List of M*A*S*H characters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:10 coleco I just know wheat and related grains hate me.
02:11 tonsofpcs rum is sugar
02:11 coleco I know
02:11 BirthdayGirl yeah
02:11 coleco Rum is sugar, and cheap rum is OK
02:11 BirthdayGirl he's asking for alchols OTHER than that....
02:11 coleco you don't go cheap on tequila because god... it's horrible
02:11 coleco Brandy?
02:11 coleco and uh...
02:12 coleco Vodka is a tossup unless you buy potato because it's grain alcohol.
02:12 tonsofpcs most potato voka are only part potsto
02:13 coleco There's a brand that's in the 20buck bracket that's 100% potato
02:13 coleco but no liquor store i've found around here sells it that i've found
02:14 coleco I wish I could find some hard apple based liquor.
02:14 BirthdayGirl amazon
02:14 tonsofpcs mead?
02:14 coleco applejack
02:14 tonsofpcs ah
02:15 tonsofpcs i know someone who makes his own
02:15 coleco Yeah, I could make mead, nobody sells mead around here. Few places sell reasonably priced cider around here
02:15 coleco if you can make beer
02:15 coleco mead is even easier
02:15 tonsofpcs and applejack easier
02:15 tonsofpcs if johnny csn, so can you
02:15 BirthdayGirl Zozo-Laptop has cider in the car
02:16 coleco tonsofpcs: distilation is inharently hard
02:16 coleco to do right
02:16 Zozo-Laptop yup yup
02:16 tonsofpcs coleco: not really....
02:17 tonsofpcs also, he uses the freezing point rather than the boiling point
02:19 Ender http://www.blogtv.com/people/lukifer
02:20 BotSteve Title: lukifer - lukifer Live - blogTV
02:20 tonsofpcs ? Ender
02:20 Ender Seriously
02:20 Ender y tonsofpcs
02:20 Ender am I spamming, sry
02:20 tonsofpcs what is it?
02:20 tonsofpcs idk, i just wanna know what it is
02:21 tonsofpcs this keybapfx sucks
02:27 Ender Luke Morse is an awesome Youtube'r. He lives in Tokyo Japan. He has awesome guides to old school gaming!
02:30 BirthdayGirl ....
02:30 BirthdayGirl i'm going home now....you coming Zozo-Laptop?
02:30 Zozo-Laptop ...
02:31 HighMan Hey Zozo-Laptop You ok?
02:31 Zozo-Laptop eh
02:31 HighMan ...
02:31 lwq_laptop hi
02:31 HighMan Hi lee
02:31 Zozo-Laptop GH5 demo took too much out of me
02:31 Zozo-Laptop be back later
02:33 * lwq_laptop hugs BirthdayGirl
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02:33 HighMan WB
02:34 * masterofmonks grumbles.
02:34 * lwq_laptop hugs monks
02:35 masterofmonks Morning lwq_laptop
02:35 lwq_laptop hi :P
02:35 HighMan Morning?
02:35 Ender :D Gurularry is in the chat!
02:35 HighMan 10:35:55 now
02:36 Ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3JjyoEhCuo&amp;list=PL77D36A1EA46F345C&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plpp_video
02:36 BotSteve Title: Films Yanks Can't Wank - Apaches (HD) - YouTube
02:37 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell Cprossu hi
02:37 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
02:39 HighMan http://imgur.com/r/funny/Pyi3Z
02:39 BotSteve Title: FEED ME - Imgur
02:41 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Is your ISP in need of a large, steel-toed boot?
02:42 masterofmonks Monkeh, I am not entirely certain where the issue is, but once I find it, I assure you there will be some seriousl discussion and a spatula will be involved.
02:43 HighMan ?
02:43 * HighMan Not bout me. Gonna drop it.
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02:47 tlockley evening everyone
02:51 BatSteve hey tlockley
02:51 tlockley evening
02:51 * tlockley tips hat
02:52 * masterofmonks boggles.
02:52 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/a3Yex.jpg
02:52 tlockley my oh my
02:53 tlockley is it original or modeled?
02:57 masterofmonks I have no clue, but I would be original.
02:58 coleco hear that.  i have quite a few GF/celiac friends
02:58 coleco the issue is,
03:00 coleco welp, picked up some brandy
03:01 coleco not rum, and not gluten, let's go.
03:17 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlu2yNdjpq8
03:17 BotSteve Title: Minecraft Timelapse - Aquila - YouTube
03:26 tonsofpcs ugh
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03:28 Hackbat :D I has a pc in my room now
03:28 Hackbat shit..
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03:28 Hackbat just realized I can't watch netflix on the damn thing
03:29 Hackbat Damn you netflix and your silverlight
03:29 BatSteve Hackbat: thepiratebay.org
03:29 BatSteve (:
03:29 Hackbat huh?
03:29 Hackbat BatSteve, http://thepiratebay.se
03:29 BotSteve Title: Download music, movies, games, software! The Pirate Bay - The galaxy's most resilient BitTorrent site
03:30 BatSteve yes that
03:30 Hackbat what of it?
03:31 eadthem how do you know its time for a new desk chair
03:31 Hackbat it breaks
03:31 eadthem when the back is in the reclineing position dispite the base beeing flat
03:32 eadthem check that   the back is now on the floor
03:33 egrsteve .seen ynos
03:33 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw yNos 35.30 hours ago at 2012-03-23 16:15:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:33:17 UTC
03:35 egrsteve hello
03:35 egrsteve and good morning
03:36 eadthem ither your about 2 hours off or 10 hours off
03:36 tonsofpcs why?
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03:37 egrsteve no, but zI might be 24 min off
03:38 HighMan Night all
03:38 tonsofpcs cant sleep, clowns will eat me
03:40 eadthem dont worry   were alredy here
03:40 tonsofpcs k
03:40 tonsofpcs rly tired though
03:41 wannabe1987 clowns?
03:41 tonsofpcs see nsfw
03:42 * lwq_laptop hates clowns forever because of the movie IT
03:42 egrsteve clowns should always be feared, especialy BOZO
03:42 BirthdayGirl awww :(  i'm sorry hun
03:42 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:42 BirthdayGirl .c 310/49
03:42 BotSteve 6.32653061
03:42 * lwq_laptop pulls egrsteve out from lurking
03:43 egrsteve HEY that hurts
03:43 BirthdayGirl then don't lurk
03:43 lwq_laptop lol
03:43 * egrsteve does not like being drug across the tubes
03:43 lwq_laptop tubes?
03:43 tonsofpcs http://www.google.com/search?q=can%27t+sleep+clowns+will+eat+me
03:43 BotSteve Title: can't sleep clowns will eat me - Google Search
03:43 tonsofpcs the intertubes
03:43 lwq_laptop oh
03:44 tonsofpcs where you get webbed up to netpages and such
03:44 lwq_laptop my brother hates clowns more than me, i like messing with him, i got this clown mask hid somewhere he cant find it and scare him with it
03:45 BatSteve Hey guys, I'm repainting the garage, and I wanted to know if latex would bond to stucco
03:45 BirthdayGirl BotSteve: what does egrsteve drive?
03:45 lwq_laptop what type of material is stucco
03:45 BatSteve lwq_laptop: I'm not actually painting a garage, that was in reply to what tonsofpcs said
03:47 egrsteve I drive people crazy
03:47 tonsofpcs BatSteve: glad someone recognizes it
03:47 BirthdayGirl lol
03:47 BirthdayGirl BotSteve: what vehicle does egrsteve drive?
03:47 tonsofpcs uh.... the internet doesn't work on tuesdays
03:47 masterofmonks .wik uhmw
03:47 BotSteve "Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWPE or sometimes shortened to UHMW), also known as high-modulus polyethylene (HMPE) or high-performance polyethylene (HPPE), is a subset of the thermoplastic polyethylene." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-molecular-weight_polyethylene
03:47 lwq_laptop oh
03:48 lwq_laptop its plastic monks
03:48 BirthdayGirl someone care to guess how many people on fb wished me a happy birthday?
03:48 masterofmonks 54
03:48 tonsofpcs .g keep your parents off the internet
03:48 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.deadtroll.com/video/parents.html
03:48 tonsofpcs ^ btw, maybe msfw
03:50 tonsofpcs consoder the plight of sheldon toblerone
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04:15 BirthdayGirl .
04:16 epictang0 blah
04:16 wannabe1987 hows s korea?
04:16 wannabe1987 understand any korean?
04:16 epictang0 cold
04:16 epictang0 a little bit...enough to get me into trouble
04:16 wannabe1987 nice
04:16 wannabe1987 cold?
04:16 wannabe1987 temps?
04:17 lwq_laptop lol
04:17 epictang0 yeah it is only gonna be like 45 today
04:17 epictang0 it is 42 right now
04:18 wannabe1987 thats typical for MI in the spring, but we're in the 50s/60s
04:18 epictang0 when i left it was like 85 lol
04:19 lwq_laptop i thought long and hard about this, ive decided im going into the airforce
04:20 epictang0 i guess it could be worse...but pt with the s korean soldiers that dont wash their kimchi sucks...
04:20 epictang0 if it was 85 out i can only imagine
04:50 BatSteve lwq_laptop: as a pilot or a tech?
04:50 lwq_laptop tech
04:50 lwq_laptop im too tall to be a pilot i think
04:50 BatSteve Cool.  I wish you good luck and success
04:51 epictang0 lwq_laptop: if you havent started a pt regimen...I highly recommend crossfit
04:51 lwq_laptop pt?
04:52 epictang0 physical training
04:53 BatSteve I don't know anything about crossfit, I've heard bad things about P90x
04:53 lwq_laptop im not enlisted yet
04:53 lwq_laptop senior year i will enlist
04:54 epictang0 the P90x intervals are too fast/heavy for a beginner...more risk of injury
04:54 lwq_laptop and batsteve do you know the airmans creed?
04:54 BatSteve I've heard it before but I don't know it by heart
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05:08 Isopropyl|Phone Hello all
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05:21 hhrlisa Hello
05:21 BotSteve hhrlisa: I have the following messages for you:
05:21 BotSteve At 24 Mar 21:35Z, lwq_laptop asked me to tell hhrlisa http://www.ohmypictures.com/agreed_378.html
05:21 hhrlisa lulz
05:22 lwq_laptop :P
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05:30 Cprossu for anyone who want's to consideration
05:30 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
05:30 BotSteve At 02:37Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell cprossu hi
05:30 Cprossu http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=26661268
05:30 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Once You Know, You Newegg
05:30 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs hi.
05:30 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
05:30 Cprossu hey BatSteve you still around?
05:30 BatSteve hey Cprossu
05:32 Cprossu BatSteve: pm
05:33 wannabe-afk its a cpro!
05:33 lwq_laptop ew windows
05:33 wannabe-afk hey now
05:33 wannabe-afk not everyone can be cool
05:34 * lwq_laptop shutters at windows
05:34 lwq_laptop AND WINDOWS 7, THAT FUCKING SUCKS DICK
05:34 Cprossu lwq_laptop: I don't want to think about how Vegas would run on WINE
05:34 lwq_laptop lol
05:34 Cprossu chris would have my head on a stick
05:35 Cprossu and I'd deserve it
05:35 lwq_laptop well atleast dual boot it please :P so he dont have to endure windows if he doesnt have too
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05:37 Cprossu lwq_laptop: he can use another computer for that :P
05:37 eadthem anyone else notice WD now only gives a 2 year warrenty
05:37 eadthem and seagate is down to 1 year on most drives
05:37 Cprossu that blows
05:37 eadthem hitachi now has the best warrenty at  3 years
05:37 Cprossu the drives I picked for local storage are 5
05:38 Cprossu not sure about the scratch disks
05:41 Cprossu 2 years damn you dell =P
05:41 eadthem well aparently WD had a plant that was flooded
05:41 eadthem witch im sure means its a total loss
05:41 eadthem nidec got flooded   so did toshiba
05:41 eadthem no nidec  no spindle motors
05:41 Cprossu oh god
05:42 Cprossu nidec makes EVERYONES spindle motors
05:42 eadthem and seagate uses nidec
05:42 Cprossu right?
05:42 eadthem dam near
05:42 eadthem samsung makes there own iirc
05:42 Cprossu hell the first seagate hdd even had a nidec spindle motor
05:42 eadthem ya
05:43 Cprossu samsung uses seagate heads don't they?
05:43 eadthem so 1 of 2 nidec plants are underwater
05:43 eadthem not sure
05:43 eadthem http://www.infoworld.com/t/computer-hardware/hard-drive-prices-skyrocket-177515
05:43 BotSteve Title: Hard drive prices skyrocket | Computer hardware - InfoWorld
05:43 Cprossu I know samsung used to source their parts from others though
05:44 eadthem so aparently teh flood was last year
05:44 eadthem everyone paniced and started buying extras
05:44 eadthem and thats why we have high prices now
05:45 Cprossu anyway later all
05:46 wannabe-afk night
05:46 hhrlisa KELLY1
05:49 dr_jkl :s
05:57 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
05:57 * egrsteve continues lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
05:57 lwq_laptop I MADE LOCK PICKS
05:58 lwq_laptop awe your going to bed :/
05:58 lwq_laptop work tomorrow?
05:58 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe-zz
06:00 tonsofpcs Cprossu: !
06:00 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
06:00 BotSteve At 05:30Z, Cprossu asked me to tell tonsofpcs hi.
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06:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: why vegas?
06:08 lwq_laptop hi curtis :D
06:11 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell Cprossu why vegas? why not adobe cs?
06:11 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
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06:27 Toastdude Hi
06:28 lwq_laptop hi
06:28 hhrlisa Hi
06:29 Toastdude How are you guys?
06:32 hhrlisa I'm awesome
06:32 tonsofpcs hi
06:38 Toastdude Everyone knows you're awesome, Lisa :P
06:38 BatSteve I don't!
06:38 lwq_laptop no your not dude, dont lie :P
06:38 BatSteve tell me how awesome you are!
06:39 hhrlisa I"M AWESOME!!!
06:39 hhrlisa lulz
06:39 hhrlisa at least that
06:39 * lwq_laptop took apart his safe and is putting it back together
06:39 hhrlisa that's what the voices in my head tell me
06:39 lwq_laptop NO YOUR NOT DUDE DONT LIE
06:40 hhrlisa there is nothing to watch
06:45 hhrlisa have you ever seen the movie set up?
06:45 hhrlisa 'Set Up'
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06:46 lwq_laptop NOPE
06:46 lwq_laptop damn caps
06:46 Electricguy morning
06:46 lwq_laptop evening
06:47 hhrlisa you should it was filmed here in gr
06:47 lwq_laptop ive heard of it, never actually watched it
06:48 hhrlisa you should
06:49 lwq_laptop it out on netflix?
06:50 hhrlisa yes
06:50 hhrlisa on instant even
06:50 lwq_laptop i'll watch it tomorrow
06:50 lwq_laptop with shannon too :P
06:51 coleco EVE Online: It's a game about spaceships:http://oeg-home.ru/blog/2010/01/12/eve-spaceships-art-hi-res/
06:51 BotSteve Title: EVE Online wallpapers | Blog - Order of Elite Games
06:51 hhrlisa kewl
06:53 coleco It's a game about spaceships
06:54 coleco like you diddent already know that.
06:54 lwq_laptop its in russian though, well atleast it looks russian
06:55 coleco it is, russiants love eve online
06:56 coleco I mean, it's a game where they get to partipate in space communisim. They better fucking love it.
07:08 epictang0 damn i love my job...this is gonna get good
07:09 lwq_laptop what is your job?
07:09 lwq_laptop THEY TOOK OR JERBS
07:09 epictang0 the short version...hacker...
07:09 lwq_laptop lol
07:09 lwq_laptop what do you have?
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07:10 epictang0 the long version...network security engineer/network security analyst
07:10 hhrlisa i love my job too.. lol im sitting on my ass watching netflix and getting paid to do it
07:11 lwq_laptop AH, you get to try and hack the system :P
07:11 epictang0 i am watching the muppet movie and pwning a network
07:11 lwq_laptop hhrlisa: you work at a hotel at the dead of night
07:11 hhrlisa yes
07:11 epictang0 lwq_laptop: I always pwn the system
07:12 epictang0 that is why they hire us
07:12 lwq_laptop do you do it manually or do you use a program to do it? no details, just what type you do
07:13 epictang0 umm...i am not a skiddie if that is what you are asking...lol
07:13 lwq_laptop skiddie?
07:13 epictang0 we have some tools, but most of my stuff is custom written
07:13 lwq_laptop thats what i ment
07:13 epictang0 i mean every pentester has used metasploit at one time or another
07:14 lwq_laptop yeah
07:14 epictang0 it is just that a tool...most of the exploits are patched before they are released anyways
07:15 lwq_laptop mind putting the programs you use in a file and sending them through email to me :P
07:15 lwq_laptop jk
07:15 lwq_laptop i dont want trouble
07:15 epictang0 yeah...i will get right on that
07:16 epictang0 lol
07:16 hhrlisa i hate people
07:16 lwq_laptop because they are dick heads?
07:16 epictang0 what a funny thing to say being as you are in a customer service position
07:16 hhrlisa because assholes decide they want to come check in at 3:30 am and pay cash
07:17 lwq_laptop are they black?
07:17 hhrlisa idk
07:17 hhrlisa a guy just called and said he was on the way
07:17 lwq_laptop oh ok
07:17 epictang0 lol...is he bringing his hoes?
07:17 hhrlisa lol
07:18 hhrlisa i hope not.
07:18 lwq_laptop do you got a gun?
07:18 hhrlisa no
07:18 hhrlisa i have mace though if i need it
07:18 hhrlisa but idoubt i will
07:19 coleco JERBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
07:19 hhrlisa its just late checkin are so annoying/ "can i get a late check out" "how late is the pool open" "Is your par still open"  no no  and no fuckers it's nearly 4 am go to bed
07:19 hhrlisa ber*
07:19 hhrlisa bar*
07:19 epictang0 hhrlisa: but the meth keeps em going
07:20 hhrlisa if they do meth then they must be dealers because meth addicts can't afford here
07:22 lwq_laptop or their dealers and users
07:22 hhrlisa yup
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07:32 Electricguy ok, time to rebuild the server! :)
07:32 Electricguy bbl
07:40 epictang0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXh9RQCvxmg
07:40 BotSteve Title: Stephen Colbert Interviews Neil deGrasse Tyson at Montclair Kimberley Academy - 2010-Jan-29 - YouTube
07:41 hhrlisa http://youtu.be/HNMq8XS4LhE
07:44 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/535buildUseAthlonII631.htm + http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Athlon-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B005I2YN80
07:44 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: AMD Athlon II X4 631 2.6GHz 4x1 MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop Processor - Retail AD631XWNGXBOX: Electronics
07:44 eadthem 535$ gameing computer
07:44 eadthem with that im off to bed
07:44 NothingNerd If you live near a microcenter they have a free motherboard deal with those CPUs
07:46 hhrlisa http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=69838
07:46 BotSteve Title: Did Zimmerman Use A Slur While Pursuing Martin? | I Am Bored
07:46 eadthem i doubt ile buy one of those systems
07:47 eadthem put it together for a frend
07:47 CaptainNiobe goddamnuit... where's my recycle bin? all my screenies are in it :P
07:47 eadthem im waiting a couple more months for the HDD prices to stabilise and then im gonna build a high end system
07:47 lwq_laptop im heading to bed
07:47 Thermoelectric Fold on it eadthem! :P
07:48 lwq_laptop night guys
07:48 Thermoelectric Night Lee.
07:48 * lwq_laptop hugs hhrlisa and CaptainNiobe
07:48 hhrlisa night
07:48 CaptainNiobe goodnight lee :) *continues lurking*
07:49 NothingNerd I thought HDD prices were supposed to have come down again already
07:49 lwq_laptop not really :/
07:49 NothingNerd I know they haven't cause I've been waiting
07:50 lwq_laptop i think the matterials is what get you, its easy for labor and machining because of china
07:50 NothingNerd lately I keep seeing external drives that are cheaper than just the drive
07:50 NothingNerd Well first it was the flooding in Thailand
07:50 lwq_laptop externals cant take as much abuse
07:50 NothingNerd now its the rare metal thing with China
07:50 NothingNerd well
07:50 NothingNerd I was just going to pull the drives
07:51 lwq_laptop are you using it in a laptop?
07:51 NothingNerd no
07:51 NothingNerd Desktop
07:51 NothingNerd I have a SSD in my laptop
07:51 lwq_laptop it will be fine
07:52 lwq_laptop it will take longer to pull up files and stuff though
07:52 lwq_laptop and i cant imagine how long it will take to start up
07:53 NothingNerd Well most External drives I've pulled apart have the same HDDs as I would buy anyway in them
07:53 NothingNerd some have the slower ones
07:53 NothingNerd Its probably a guessing game knowing which is which tho
07:54 lwq_laptop yea
07:54 lwq_laptop well im heading to bed, hope you find a good hard drive, i have an old 70gb im still running off of :P
07:54 lwq_laptop well in this computer anyways
07:54 NothingNerd hey if it works, why not...
07:54 NothingNerd g'night
07:55 eadthem the thing is  none of the rare earth minerals in china are rare
07:55 NothingNerd yea, but they are cheap
07:55 eadthem there quite abundant  just not in mine productive quantatys  using standard methods
07:55 eadthem china just happend to have some concentrations of them
07:55 eadthem and cheep labor
07:56 eadthem anyhow off to bed
07:56 NothingNerd g'night
08:00 NothingNerd do....doo...doooo
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10:42 VictrolaWax Good Morning
10:47 masterofmonks Morning VictrolaWax
10:47 VictrolaWax hi
10:48 masterofmonks How wide is your spatula this morning?
10:49 VictrolaWax 2inches
10:49 masterofmonks Rather narrow spatula you have there, I presume your pancakes are small?
10:50 y007-nb wat
10:52 VictrolaWax yes they are thats all i have
10:52 masterofmonks Well small pancakes are still good eating.
10:53 VictrolaWax yes mate
11:01 tonsofpcs hi
11:02 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: spatula me some pancakes pls?
11:02 * masterofmonks puts the cast iron skillet on the heat.
11:03 tonsofpcs best make bacon first so there's fresh grease to cook in
11:13 * tonsofpcs tosses a pig towards masterofmonks
11:14 * masterofmonks baconates the pig.
11:29 CaptainNiobe god masterofmonks is a liar... HE'S LYING TO ME! TONSOFPCS! SKITCH! FETCH! ATTACK! DESTROY!!!
11:38 Druidic_Rifleman what did he tell youhe was a male super model and turn out to be some slighly over weight Guy with a beard?
11:39 masterofmonks No, it happened the other way around. Except the beard part.
11:39 * CaptainNiobe grins as she looks at elims overweight-and-bearded photo
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11:48 tlockley mo'ning
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12:19 Hydroelectric Hi there Experimentonomen.
12:23 HighMan masterofmonks!
12:23 HighMan RAIN!
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12:31 Experimentonomen g'day hydro
12:31 mashpriborintorg hiya
12:33 mashpriborintorg well, tearing down this microwave was a one beer long work
12:34 mashpriborintorg I'm still taking-apart hungry
12:39 Druidic_Rifleman cool
12:39 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder....
12:39 Druidic_Rifleman what all can micro waveparts be used for?
12:40 y007-nb EMP generator
12:40 y007-nb as i have heard
12:42 mashpriborintorg scrap copper also
12:42 mashpriborintorg microwave gun :p
12:44 HighMan BotSteve: tell masterofmonks Was it raining overthere between 7 and 8am?
12:44 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when masterofmonks is around.
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12:58 Electricguy the lackrack is finished and put in place! :) http://imgur.com/a/aSJE9
12:58 BotSteve Title: EG's LackRack - Imgur
13:01 Druidic_Rifleman I doubt i could make an EMP generator
13:02 Druidic_Rifleman Though i would like to unmicrowave one and make my own radar dish
13:02 masterofmonks Very unlikely.
13:02 BotSteve masterofmonks: I have the following messages for you:
13:02 BotSteve At 12:44Z, roadran422 asked me to tell masterofmonks Was it raining overthere between 7 and 8am?
13:02 Druidic_Rifleman Maybe even my own Radar guided SAM but i'd have to see if i can get a permit...
13:03 Druidic_Rifleman twat "hello RCMP firearms center registration office how may i help you" me "Whats the Classification of a home built working patriot missile?"
13:14 Experimentonomen why do SATA cables have to be so stiff ?
13:14 Electricguy lots of shielding
13:14 Electricguy and flat
13:14 Experimentonomen mine are hard like plastic :/
13:14 Electricguy bad quality then
13:14 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: That's because they ARE plastic.
13:14 Experimentonomen came with the mobo
13:15 Electricguy yeah they use to be pretty crappy
13:15 Electricguy but they work
13:15 Monkeh|Lap They're coaxial, they're not exactly renowned for flexibility
13:16 Druidic_Rifleman monkeh can you do me a favor
13:16 Druidic_Rifleman Log in and out?
13:16 Druidic_Rifleman i am trying to test something
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13:16 Druidic_Rifleman thanks
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13:22 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Look at it this way, they stay where you put them. :)
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13:24 VictrolaWax Hello
13:25 Experimentonomen g'day old radio
13:28 Experimentonomen hm i think im gonna take a walk, its sunny out and i feel bored
13:28 Experimentonomen bbl
13:33 Druidic_Rifleman I am just wondering if i got afew old microwaves what all coold be done with them
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14:31 BitViper .seen slewfoot
14:31 BotSteve BitViper: I last saw slewfoot 258.97 hours ago at 2012-03-14 19:33:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:31:42 UTC
14:32 Electricguy LOL! http://www.damnlol.com/i/b6d5b0f6398b7bef2689f9d5703529f0.jpg
14:37 tonsofpcs hi
14:39 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: a futuristic looking storage sustem
14:43 Druidic_Rifleman huh
14:44 tonsofpcs stack them and use them for stprage
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15:09 HighMan Just wow.
15:17 y007-nb so boreddd
15:23 Experimentonomen back
15:26 mashpriborintorg did you see anything interesting while walking ?
15:26 HighMan lol
15:26 HighMan .seen botsteve
15:26 BotSteve I'm right here, actually.
15:28 astro73|alice hello world
15:28 Electricguy :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyYxvPKsk5w&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=2&amp;feature=plpp_video
15:28 BotSteve Title: Rymdreglage - Jonny bonus 2 (just the song) - YouTube
15:28 mashpriborintorg hiya
15:28 HighMan Hi astro
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15:38 Electricguy cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAhQyBLxgu4
15:38 BotSteve Title: Inverted Pendulum + Reaction Wheel = Autonomous Stabilized Bicycle - YouTube
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15:59 * Experimentonomen thinks abt buildin a 2kW smps with a 2x75VDC output
16:06 eadthem in a safety circut
16:06 eadthem mmm nvm
16:16 Electricguy hrm.. i got a bumble bee in my room
16:17 eadthem isoalchol
16:17 eadthem he will drop right out of the air
16:17 Electricguy ?
16:17 eadthem a good squrt of isopropal alachol will instantly drop most flying insects
16:18 Electricguy seems like a pretty cruel thing to do to them
16:18 Electricguy i'd rather try catching it and let it free outside the window
16:18 eadthem well if you can just open the window and let her out then fine
16:20 Experimentonomen a glass and a piece of paper is what i ususally use to catch wasps and bumblebees that makes it indoors
16:22 BitViper with the mosquitos we have here next to the swamp, ya need a shotgun
16:24 Experimentonomen is there a way to find out the phone number on a sim card through the phone its in ?
16:25 HighMan Mosquitos?
16:25 HighMan Haven't seen them in a while in FL
16:25 HighMan Experimentonomen Yes
16:25 eadthem we can send some down   shuldnt be a issue
16:26 HighMan BotSteve: tell Experimentonomen yes try #686#
16:26 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when Experimentonomen is around.
16:26 Electricguy Experimentonomen, do the sim card have any money on it?
16:27 Electricguy on my phone #686# ends up with a message that says "command not supported"
16:27 Experimentonomen Electricguy, its a sim card from comviq with around 85sek left on it, that i got from my uncle, it expires in june so i never got the number for it as its too short of a time to really give out to ppl
16:27 BotSteve experimentonomen: I have the following messages for you:
16:27 BotSteve At 16:26Z, roadran422 asked me to tell experimentonomen yes try #686#
16:28 Electricguy exp, call my phone and i'll tell you the number. i wont answer. so it's not going to cost anything
16:29 Experimentonomen not that important, i can take a shower and walk to the nearest pizzeria too
16:29 Electricguy lol ok
16:30 Electricguy LOVE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=C4OV2UofPFg
16:30 BotSteve Title: Portal's 'Still Alive' Played by Fiber Laser - YouTube
16:30 Experimentonomen and my phone needs a charge
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16:34 Electricguy takes a while to copy the whole NAS to one more HDD..
16:34 Electricguy about 4h left... XD
16:34 Electricguy the network cables are not warm yet.. so it'f fine
16:37 Electricguy i'm thinking about changing the GPU in the office computer...
16:37 Electricguy i got my old ASUS silent card laying here
16:37 Electricguy ok, it's from 2009.. but it was THE old GPU in this comuter :)
16:39 eadthem http://www.lowes.com/pd_377410-34246-R30-101D_0__?catalogId=10051&amp;productId=3558760&amp;UserSearch=vu1&amp;Ntt=vu1&amp;N=0&amp;langId=-1&amp;storeId=10151&amp;rpp=24
16:39 BotSteve Title: Shop Vu1 19.5 Watt (65 Watt Replacement) ESL R-30 Light Bulb at Lowes.com
16:39 eadthem new lightbulb type
16:42 Experimentonomen has to be a cfl or led lamp
16:42 eadthem no
16:42 eadthem its electron gun
16:42 eadthem no ballist or driver circutry
16:43 Experimentonomen so its basically a crude CRT then
16:43 eadthem ya kinda
16:44 eadthem but no high voltage flyback
16:44 eadthem and no magnetics
16:48 HighMan I'm a aidiot.
16:48 * HighMan Never flip momentary switches with other switches.
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16:54 eadthem ya know given how it works,  it might beable to run at higher voltages without any signficant failure modes
16:54 eadthem i mean above 120V
16:56 Electricguy lulz! XD http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526441_3280359400188_1003624962_3064817_500981648_n.jpg
16:58 HighMan WTF
16:59 Electricguy cats sleep in the weirdest of places
17:01 tlockley .seen yNos
17:01 BotSteve tlockley: I last saw yNos 48.77 hours ago at 2012-03-23 16:15:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:01:50 UTC
17:02 tlockley BotSteve tell yNos I have an interesting networking question for him when he has a moment
17:11 * Experimentonomen bakes a pizza in the furnace
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17:12 Experimentonomen the GGR is really unstable at times
17:14 mashpriborintorg don't know it my music is up there yet
17:17 Monkeh tlockley: How interesting is interesting?
17:18 tlockley I am interested in designing a network where certain clients recieve their own port for general internet connction so that i dont consume all the bw of a single port
17:18 eadthem http://sound.westhost.com/lamps/esl-lamps.html
17:18 BotSteve Title: ESL Lamps
17:18 tlockley so for example an xbox gets a whole internet port to itself while guest clients share BW on another port
17:18 Monkeh And by port you mean?
17:18 tlockley i mean a physical port
17:19 tlockley im at univ and we have per port BW limits
17:19 Monkeh That's relatively easy to arrange
17:19 tlockley I am waiting on a 4port nic
17:19 Monkeh Hope you didn't pay over the odds for that, ebay has them cheap
17:19 tlockley thats where im getting it
17:20 Monkeh I'd say $25 in the US.
17:20 tlockley well i havent actually comitted to a card yet as i dont have the $$ on hand
17:21 Monkeh Just about anything will do, look for an Intel one though
17:21 Monkeh Normally you'll find those branded HP or IBM, they'll be PCI-X
17:21 tlockley and i neet to get my BSD server working with PF first
17:21 Monkeh (for 10/100)
17:21 Monkeh tlockley: You could use pfSense or the like.
17:21 Monkeh Pretty sure they do multiple-WAN.
17:22 tlockley i already have a machine setup as i want
17:22 Monkeh Fair enough.
17:22 Monkeh I'm not familiar with pf.
17:22 tlockley this isnt for a production network either so I am ok with some constant tweaking
17:22 tlockley neither am I but i know yNos is and I want to learn pf as it is
17:23 Monkeh I'm sure some googling will dig up solutions, it's not an uncommon setup
17:23 tlockley true and i could go at it with the google solution but I would rather talk to someone about it
17:23 mashpriborintorg GGR, elevator, same thing
17:24 Monkeh I'm lazy and use shorewall.
17:24 Monkeh Nothing I can't write by hand, but..
17:24 tlockley I understand completely, I just have been spoilt by GUI for too long
17:25 Monkeh Shorewall is not GUI :)
17:25 Monkeh It just gives you a little order in the chaos.
17:26 tlockley i didnt say shorewall was, I was speaking generally
17:26 tlockley pfSense IIRC has a web config
17:26 Monkeh Yep.
17:26 Monkeh It's great if you've got a small low power box laying around
17:26 Monkeh I.. don't, so I combine it with a lot of other stuff in a really fairly meaty box.
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17:27 tlockley same here. 2x Dual Core 3.0Ghz Xeons
17:29 wannabe1987 hi
17:29 Monkeh So power hungry but not powerful. :P
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17:30 tlockley it does the job handily. and they are not the 120W versions
17:32 Monkeh Still ;)
17:32 Monkeh I am a proponent of the firey destruction of all netburst CPUs
17:33 tlockley The Woodcrest Xeons are not netburst
17:33 tlockley they were some of the first core series cpus
17:33 Monkeh Oh, okay
17:33 Monkeh You've got those.
17:34 Monkeh They're kinda rare at that clock speed
17:34 Monkeh Generally >2.6GHz is Netburst.
17:34 tlockley yes, i got mine out of a scrapped intel xserve
17:35 Monkeh Ah, yes, that thing
17:35 tlockley it hath since met a firey death
17:36 tlockley by my own hands of course
17:42 Electricguy LOL XD http://www.damnlol.com/i/2f36be76b681ec75b22385fb88cab297.jpg
17:43 HighMan Electricguy What do you do in your spare time?
17:44 Electricguy why do you think i'm on IRC?
17:44 HighMan You've been posting pictures and youtube links from damnlol :P
17:44 Electricguy it's called facebook feed
17:45 HighMan https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/531261_209758719124825_100002720959344_305752_92182771_n.jpg
17:45 Electricguy old
17:45 HighMan :P
17:53 Electricguy lulz http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558113_138811922913498_137962996331724_137505_1771872276_n.jpg
18:08 Experimentonomen meow
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18:18 tonsofpcs so i lost my voicetoday
18:19 tonsofpcs anyone ever get ip-relay working on android?
18:28 Experimentonomen Cprossu werkin on bat's car now ?
18:28 Electricguy i need a USB to mini USB cable with a reset button
18:29 Electricguy IE. a NC pushbutton that cuts the 5V
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18:40 Electricguy cheap! http://www.dealextreme.com/p/7-0-touch-screen-wince-6-0-sirf-atlas-iv-gps-navigator-w-bluetooth-fm-4gb-tf-card-w-europe-map-121930
18:40 BotSteve Title: 7.0" Touch Screen WinCE 6.0 SiRF Atlas IV GPS Navigator w/ Bluetooth/FM/4GB TF Card w/ Europe Map - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
18:40 Electricguy might be hackable
18:40 Electricguy got a FM transmitter too
18:54 Druidic_Rifleman I love blacksmithing
18:58 Experimentonomen GH5 looks like a war zone :P
19:02 NeWtoz all it's missing is a hole in the roof
19:03 tonsofpcs hi
19:04 mashpriborintorg they remove so many walls, I wonder how it can still stand up
19:04 tonsofpcs Electricguy: buy a cable, peel the sheath off, add a small ox and swotch...
19:04 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: whrre are pica?
19:04 tonsofpcs pics
19:05 Electricguy i don't think a ox and a swotch will help that much
19:05 Electricguy a PCB mount pushbutton hotsnotted to the USB plug would do
19:05 Monkeh Electricguy: That looks kinda fun.
19:06 Electricguy ?
19:06 Monkeh The 'Pioneer'
19:06 mashpriborintorg no pics, blog
19:06 mashpriborintorg from yesterday
19:06 Electricguy monkeh, ahh! yeah
19:06 Electricguy pretty cheap too
19:06 Monkeh Yeah, wish I had the money
19:06 tonsofpcs Electricguy: ah, link?
19:06 Monkeh Could be fun
19:07 tonsofpcs err, mashpriborintorg ^
19:08 Electricguy these TDK tapes doesn't sound very good
19:08 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/Px3OgamCid4
19:08 Electricguy bad high freq response
19:08 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 3-23-12 Gibronni Rage - YouTube
19:08 wannabe1987 vid win
19:09 tonsofpcs Electricguy: did you run them thrpufh another deck first?
19:09 tonsofpcs ty
19:09 Electricguy yes
19:09 Seroster joined #thegeekgroup
19:10 Electricguy TDK USED to be good at least
19:10 wannabe1987 oh noes.  its Seroster
19:10 Seroster I'm frozen.
19:10 Electricguy it's your own fucking fault! :P
19:10 * egrsteve grabs flame thrower
19:10 wannabe1987 lol
19:10 wannabe1987 mmm cake
19:10 Seroster Seriously fucking frozen xD
19:10 * egrsteve aims a bit to the left
19:11 Seroster An hour on a bike, 2degrees c and tshirt =)
19:11 wannabe1987 well, thats YOUR fault
19:12 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
19:12 * Experimentonomen throws a molotov cocktail at Seroster
19:16 * Experimentonomen listens to http://soundcloud.com/ason-music/tracks?page=2
19:16 BotSteve Title: Ason ID's sounds on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
19:21 Zozo egrsteve, you around?
19:35 wannabe1987 astro73|alice?
19:36 Electricguy oh yes! only 35 mins left of the NAS HDD copy :D
19:36 Electricguy took around 5 hours to copy all the crap.. lol
19:40 wannabe1987 its the doctor!
19:40 tonsofpcs egrsteve: at the lab?
19:40 Electricguy ?
19:40 wannabe1987 no, he's not....
19:40 tonsofpcs is Cprossu or zozo in lab land?
19:41 wannabe1987 i am.
19:41 wannabe1987 why?
19:41 wannabe1987 cpro is busy with lucy
19:42 tonsofpcs lucy?
19:42 wannabe1987 batmans truck
19:42 tonsofpcs ah
19:42 wannabe1987 "are you my mummy?"
19:42 * tonsofpcs puts on his 1940s gas mask
19:43 astro73|alice wannabe1987: yes?
19:43 Zozo YAY
19:43 wannabe1987 you busy tonight?
19:43 Zozo someone got the reference
19:43 wannabe1987 lol
19:43 Zozo XD
19:43 astro73|alice maybe, why?
19:43 wannabe1987 of course....its geek land....derp
19:43 wannabe1987 jqm is free and i'll be bored when dr who is done
19:43 tonsofpcs Zozo: sometwenty got the reference
19:43 tonsofpcs is wannabe caught up yet?
19:43 astro73|alice wannabe1987: maybe if i finish my stuff
19:43 wannabe1987 i got caught up a long time ago
19:43 Zozo im not
19:44 wannabe1987 i have more episodes than zozo :P
19:44 Zozo ive started back at the beginning
19:44 Zozo but im almost done with william hartnell
19:44 wannabe1987 1960s?
19:44 Zozo yup
19:44 wannabe1987 i didn't watch *those* seasons...
19:45 Zozo they are not bad, but i need to see them all to see why people love tom baker so much
19:45 wannabe1987 i see.  i shall have to try them sometime
19:45 astro73|alice you're trying to watch 40yrs of TV?
19:46 Zozo maybe XD
19:46 astro73|alice i thought watching all of stargate was bad enough (16yrs at the time)
19:46 wannabe1987 lol
19:46 Zozo watched them all
19:46 astro73|alice me too
19:46 Zozo took a few weeks
19:46 wannabe1987 i am supposedly watching stargate...its on Sarah who is as jeffs.....and not plugged in.
19:46 wannabe1987 at*
19:47 astro73|alice anyways, back to writing
19:47 wannabe1987 hurry up and write, k?
19:47 tonsofpcs i need to watch the old ones
19:48 Zozo if we had the bandwidth is share my orb account
19:48 Zozo i got more tv shows than music lol
19:48 tonsofpcs they dont have them all and some of the ones they have arent pibliclt available
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19:49 tonsofpcs the top row offset is wrong on this keybaard
19:49 wannabe1987 i see that
19:49 wannabe1987 fix it?
19:50 tonsofpcs w and z have the same left/right side
19:50 Zozo ew
19:50 tonsofpcs i dont know hw to code android apps yet alond kehboads
19:51 wannabe1987 i know you're sick, you sure you're not drunk too?  :P
19:52 Ponko doooood
19:52 wannabe1987 what Ponko?
19:52 wannabe1987 how'd your teams do?
19:52 Ponko who?
19:52 tonsofpcs wannabe -- i'm sick amd using a touchscreen keybpard
19:52 Ponko Celtic
19:52 Ponko lost 3-2
19:52 tonsofpcs a *bad* touchscreen keyboard
19:52 tonsofpcs but it's the best thatbi've found
19:53 tonsofpcs celtic? i thought you were brittish
19:54 DruidicSniper joined #thegeekgroup
19:57 Ponko yeah i am British/English
19:57 Ponko so are Celtic
19:57 Ponko British/Scottish but still
19:57 Riordan joined #thegeekgroup
19:58 Ponko i'm Catholic though as too are Celtic well i'm an agnostic Catholic
20:03 DruidicSniper MMMMm Dq blizard
20:10 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: bring me one?
20:11 tonsofpcs neareat dq is probably 1.5 or 2h
20:11 tonsofpcs (there's one 50min away but closed except summer)
20:13 Druidic_Rifleman you are probly like.... 15 hours
20:13 Druidic_Rifleman less you wanna spring for a supersonic hop in a CF18
20:13 tonsofpcs 7am sounds like a great time for ablizzard
20:13 Zozo druid
20:13 Druidic_Rifleman zozo
20:14 Zozo attemping to upgrade the server
20:14 Riordan joined #thegeekgroup
20:15 Electricguy lol. i just made a HDD speaker that got pretty nice bass response if it uses a table as resonance plate :P
20:15 tonsofpcs also, google says 6h
20:15 Zozo so 2 hours if druid drives XD
20:16 tonsofpcs Zozo: nah, it'll still take 6h, border crossing and all that
20:16 Zozo ah
20:17 Druidic_Rifleman YAY!!!!
20:18 tonsofpcs google says to use kingston/watertown crossing
20:18 wannabe1987 ...
20:18 wannabe1987 ?
20:18 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: i want dq and Druidic_Rifleman has some
20:18 Druidic_Rifleman actually
20:18 wannabe1987 no, he said YAY!!!! and i want to know what shenanigans he's up to
20:18 Druidic_Rifleman UMMM more like 40 some hours
20:19 tonsofpcs oh
20:19 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: 4 to drive and 36 to cross the border?
20:19 Druidic_Rifleman Cause i have to go to enter at the detroit windsor tunnel deal with the ludite boarder people then drive around the breat lakes
20:20 tonsofpcs why do ypu have to enter there?  also, detroit is 10h
20:24 Electricguy interesting http://hackaday.com/2012/03/25/simplecortex-for-when-an-arduino-is-too-wimpy/
20:24 BotSteve Title: SimpleCortex, for when an Arduino is too wimpy - Hack a Day
20:25 tonsofpcs Electricguy: FPGA....
20:25 Electricguy so?
20:25 Ponko Mikel Arteta you BEAUTY :P
20:25 Electricguy i suppose it's possible to program them too
20:26 Zozo i like the beagelboard
20:26 Ponko who was my other team wannabe1987?
20:26 wannabe1987 i don't know
20:26 wannabe1987 you just kept swearing on fb
20:26 Ponko ALL of them i can tell you were
20:28 Ponko Luton Drew 1-1 at home with Grimsby, Hitchin Drew 2-2 away with Cirencester, Arsenal Won 3-0 over Aston Villa at home, Ipswich Lost 2-1 away to Watford, Hibernian lost 2-0 at Home to Dundee United, Celtic lost 3-2 away to Rangers
20:29 Ponko good weekend.....
20:30 Ponko anyway
20:32 tonsofpcs oh, real sports
20:32 wannabe1987 lol
20:32 wannabe1987 my friend raced at infineon this weekend...
20:33 wannabe1987 172 cars started the race, 70 ended.  it was rainy
20:33 tonsofpcs i thought he was talking about a boston team
20:34 wannabe1987 no?
20:34 wannabe1987 i don't know
20:34 wannabe1987 tb
20:34 wannabe1987 tbh*
20:34 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: footy!
20:34 wannabe1987 bless you
20:34 tonsofpcs association football...
20:35 wannabe1987 ik
20:35 tonsofpcs also, i havent smeezed in a few dsys, just dry cough, but thanks :)
20:36 Zozo Druidic_Rifleman, inception (or a clone) will not work for us anymore since inception is broke and the clones dont have the features we need
20:37 wannabe1987 lol  yw tonsofpcs
20:41 Electricguy It's a TOOL! http://www.dealextreme.com/p/psp-unbricker-pandora-battery-for-psp-1000-2000-1800mah-3-6v-844012472
20:41 BotSteve Title: PSP Unbricker Battery for PSP 1000/2000 (1800mAh/3.6V) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
20:46 tonsofpcs it's a thing, ya
20:48 Electricguy yes i was bored :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bupe1U3Ond8
20:49 BotSteve Title: Improved hard drive speaker - YouTube
20:50 Experimentonomen i get no sound in that vid :/
20:50 wannabe1987 Zozo: http://youtu.be/4b2SV3ASUxY
20:50 BotSteve Title: The Vortex Cannon - Student Science - YouTube
20:51 Electricguy exp.. me neither... o_O fucking jewtube
20:51 Experimentonomen stupidtube :/
20:52 Electricguy oh well.. taking that video down again then..
20:52 Electricguy gonna reupload tomorrow
20:59 * HighMan GOT MY PARTS :D
20:59 Electricguy got his parts*
20:59 Electricguy people seem to have huge problem with typing in 3rd person... XD
21:00 wannabe1987 lol
21:00 Druidic_Rifleman huh druid was showering
21:00 Druidic_Rifleman Derp
21:01 Druidic_Rifleman zozo i was showering what?
21:02 Experimentonomen hm weird, input voltage 320VDC, output voltage 75VDC 30A, odd that primary Amps also approach and exceed 30A o_OO_o
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21:02 Experimentonomen smps = weird
21:02 Zozo just was saying inception will not wpork anymore
21:03 lwq_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
21:03 Electricguy i wonder how a w-pork tastes :P
21:03 lwq_laptop i had fun today
21:03 wannabe1987 o.o
21:03 lwq_laptop got to hang with shannon
21:03 wannabe1987 "hang out"?
21:03 wannabe1987 :p
21:03 * Electricguy still thinks this should be the gameplay music for minecraft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWWKbNeXPiw&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G2c53871RVAAAAAAAABw
21:03 BotSteve Title: Dave's March - Minecraft Animation - YouTube
21:04 lwq_laptop ok go out
21:04 Experimentonomen i think im gonna attemt to built a 2300W switchmode psu with dual 75V rail outputs for a big (i think class d)amp project
21:05 wannabe1987 lwq_laptop: you're missing my teasing point, but ok.  how was it?
21:05 Electricguy get better speakers first so you can USE that amount of power too ;)
21:05 Ponko phwoar Artetas goal what a beaut
21:05 Ponko http://player.arsenal.com/home/player/1861-aston-villa-h-highlights
21:05 BotSteve Title: Home | Arsenal Player
21:05 lwq_laptop she was all over my brother :/
21:05 wannabe1987 ...:/
21:06 Ponko O_O lee gf troubles?
21:06 lwq_laptop i told her that too
21:06 lwq_laptop not really, but eh
21:06 Ponko tonsofpcs: watch that video
21:07 Ponko anyone who wants watch the vid lol
21:08 Ponko who was all over your brother?
21:08 Ponko i think i should started with that first lol
21:09 lwq_laptop my girlfriend, they kept messing around and she woulnt even look at me
21:09 lwq_laptop so i just walked away
21:10 Ponko yeah know the feeling
21:10 Ponko but it's not normally my brother.... :/
21:10 wannabe1987 your brothers an ass
21:10 lwq_laptop and did i mention hes 19 almost 20 and shes 12
21:11 Riordan :/
21:11 wannabe1987 you told me she was 14....you should *really* get your story straight on how old she is....
21:11 Electricguy lol
21:12 Electricguy yeah i've heard 14 too... XD
21:12 Riordan I am twelve, I know what this is
21:12 lwq_laptop SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS 14 AT FIRST, but after she saw idc how old she is i lover her she told me she was 12 and turning 13 in june
21:13 Electricguy ehm... o_O
21:13 hightechlab joined #thegeekgroup
21:13 Electricguy why would someone lie about their AGE!? o_O
21:13 wannabe1987 you shouldn't date people who lie....
21:13 wannabe1987 esp about how young they are....
21:13 hightechlab Hey Hey Hey!!!
21:13 Riordan Because they're Russian spy
21:14 Riordan Those damn communists
21:14 hightechlab whos watchin the live stream?
21:14 ajprog_laptop who at the age of 12 (or 14) has id to say how old they are?
21:14 Electricguy the jump between 12 and 14 is only two years.. but it's quite a lot when you are that young
21:14 wannabe1987 whats on the livestream, hightechlab?
21:14 hightechlab a person doing nothig
21:14 Riordan Who checks someones id when they get into a relationship is a question
21:14 Riordan :P
21:14 wannabe1987 Electricguy:  yeah
21:14 Electricguy i got my ID card when i was 13... XD
21:14 wannabe1987 .stream
21:14 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
21:15 Riordan I believe you may have potential, quickly the id
21:15 hightechlab yea im watching it steve
21:15 Riordan So your name is Russian, my hobby is rocketry... don't go starting any races
21:15 Riordan Cause we'll probably lose
21:15 eadthem id your potental GF's
21:15 lwq_laptop idc i love her
21:15 wannabe1987 steve didn't say anything....i'm trying to figure out th elink so i can see who its is:P
21:15 eadthem tell me how that goes
21:15 Riordan Not very well
21:15 Riordan What girlfriends?
21:15 Electricguy Russian!? Who's Russian?
21:16 Riordan Nyet Russians
21:16 hightechlab the live stream link is www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup
21:16 wannabe1987 hightechlab: thats a chick....
21:16 Ponko anyway
21:16 wannabe1987 i know what it is
21:16 wannabe1987 hightechlab: if you do .stream the bot (botsteve) tells you what it is
21:16 Electricguy get your shit together.. i don't understand half of what you are trying to say
21:16 wannabe1987 .cookie hightechlab
21:16 BotSteve Here you go, hightechlab, I baked you a sugar cookie!
21:16 lwq_laptop .hitormiss
21:16 BotSteve HIT!!!!! :D
21:16 hightechlab lol
21:17 hightechlab .cookie wanna
21:17 BotSteve Here you go, wanna, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
21:17 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
21:17 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
21:17 hightechlab oops lol
21:17 wannabe1987 thanks :D
21:17 lwq_laptop me, batsteve, and toastdude code the bot
21:17 hightechlab imnew here lol
21:17 Electricguy I WANT FUCKING COOKIES TOO DAMNIT!!!!
21:17 lwq_laptop lol
21:17 wannabe1987 and astro73|alice, dono't forget about astro73|alice!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:17 Electricguy .cookie Electricguy
21:17 BotSteve Here you go, Electricguy, I baked you a bacon cookie!
21:17 wannabe1987 .cookie Electricguy
21:17 BotSteve Here you go, Electricguy, I baked you a double chocolate chip cookie!
21:17 Electricguy OM NOM NOM
21:17 hightechlab .cookie electric
21:17 BotSteve Here you go, electric, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
21:17 lwq_laptop wait astro codes it?
21:17 * Electricguy drools
21:17 hightechlab lol
21:17 wannabe1987 astro did the nick tracker.  he does back end stuff
21:17 astro73|alice true story
21:18 lwq_laptop ah
21:18 astro73|alice look at the commit logs sometime
21:18 lwq_laptop my dog is grunting :/
21:18 wannabe1987 how did you find the geek group, hightechlab?
21:18 lwq_laptop oh yeah i forgot -smacks himself on the head-
21:19 hightechlab by photonicinduction...he ranted about the geek group when he closed his channel, and my plan was to be mean and dislike all the vids, but i liked the quality and fell in love with you guys
21:19 astro73|alice rofl
21:19 astro73|alice what did we do to that poor brit? i missed it
21:19 hightechlab yea, and i wanted to catch the livestream and the chatmod sent me here
21:19 wannabe1987 yeah, we're pretty awesome
21:20 eadthem nothing major      he blew up some baubles with a high power cap
21:20 eadthem chris blasted them off with a tesla coil
21:20 hightechlab what happened was chris boden took photonics idea of shocking the tin off of christmas balls
21:20 lwq_laptop you know, i hate people that think editing their photos with automatic stuff is good, it just makes it look stupid all they do is add layers
21:20 hightechlab and made money from photons idea
21:20 eadthem not much diffrent than aussie50's washing machine stuff
21:20 hightechlab i agree
21:20 lwq_laptop they dont make much off of the video's
21:21 eadthem ya thing of it was   they didnt make money off it
21:21 astro73|alice hightechlab: really? that's it?
21:21 Zozo chris doesnt get money from the captian blogs
21:21 lwq_laptop his physicsduck account isnt monitized and tgg main does not get much
21:21 Electricguy i think photonicinduction was over all prety fed up with youtube and that stuff.. cause that was the reason why he closed his channel. cause he have been talking nice stuff about TGG before
21:21 hightechlab i saw a vid on phisics duck where chris made 1k+
21:21 Zozo and was planning to visit
21:21 hightechlab he was bragging sort of
21:21 Electricguy and for those that don't know, photonicinduction's new channel is Photonvids
21:21 astro73|alice he quit youtube because somebody got bigger toys than him?
21:21 Zozo thats off the geek group main channel
21:21 hightechlab no
21:21 eadthem and thats to the geek group
21:21 wannabe1987 chris doesn't make $$ on cb's, only thegeekgroup yt acct
21:22 Zozo his personal channel is not monitized
21:22 hightechlab because he was mad with his internet, editing, the people who go and flag videos and more
21:22 Electricguy astro73|alice, no. editing videos and making crazy stuff took up ALL his free time. he got sick and tired of it
21:22 lwq_laptop i would too
21:22 hightechlab so he got "Fed Up"
21:22 Electricguy now he's reuploading his old vids
21:22 hightechlab Yea what u said electric
21:22 Electricguy yeah
21:23 eadthem i do wonder why photonic has disabled rateings on his new uploads
21:23 Zozo i had not issue with him being upset and quitting what i have an issue with.. was when he came back
21:23 hightechlab he let me keep my edited washing machiene vid on my channel
21:23 Zozo to me hes the "youtube charlie sheen"
21:23 wannabe1987 hightechlab: were are you from?
21:23 Electricguy running a company, coming home in the evenings, making crazy shit and then spending some hours on editing the videos takes up a lot of time
21:23 eadthem whats a charlie sheen?
21:23 Experimentonomen g'evenin hightechlab
21:23 hightechlab anyways now for ratings, on the new video, i posted a comment saying "Thumbs up this comment if you  like the video
21:24 wannabe1987 .g charlie sheen
21:24 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.charliesheen.com/
21:24 hightechlab how do you send messages like that wannabe
21:24 wannabe1987 ^^ eadthem
21:24 wannabe1987 like what?
21:24 eadthem its a bot command
21:24 hightechlab like the one where u asked where i was form
21:24 wannabe1987 i put a colon after your name?
21:24 Electricguy awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJILK3NxSM&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=7&amp;feature=plpp_video
21:24 BotSteve Title: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Polka Face - YouTube
21:24 Zozo cause he just want crazy (example: him editing farts into a video, several times)
21:25 Zozo \went*
21:25 lwq_laptop hightechlab: he said he doesnt care if you use his videos and edit stuff, he has an issue with your taking the original video and doing nothing and just uploading it without giving him credit
21:25 astro73|alice well, he was always a little loony
21:25 hightechlab lwq_laptop: yea he told me that after the fact
21:25 lwq_laptop isnt every brit
21:26 eadthem ya pritty much
21:26 hightechlab who almost cried when he left?
21:26 hightechlab the first time
21:26 Electricguy i still think it's fun that photon was playing with stuff almost the same caliber as TGG's stuff in his little house at home XD
21:26 eadthem lwq_laptop  loosing the war sent them a bit over the edge :p
21:26 Electricguy totally nuts
21:26 lwq_laptop not me, i hated him for what he said about the group
21:26 Electricguy and believe it or not, he even got a WIFE! XD
21:27 HighMan I AM DONE!
21:27 hightechlab i see.....i like to remain neutral
21:27 HighMan I BUILT IT!
21:27 HighMan YES!
21:27 Monkeh hightechlab: Boden does not make money off the blogs. At all. Photonic just didn't listen and bitched about nothing.
21:27 lwq_laptop well idk about wife, i think its a girlfriend of a long time
21:27 HighMan monkeh: I built it!
21:27 HighMan And it didn't short out!
21:27 Monkeh HighMan: You built something useless!
21:27 Monkeh :P
21:27 HighMan It works P:P
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21:27 HighMan Don't be such a downer.
21:27 Electricguy HighMan, wtf did you build now?
21:27 eadthem what works?
21:27 hightechlab monkeh: well, i dont really piss about with the issue, i like both sides
21:27 lwq_laptop what did you build highman
21:27 Monkeh Electricguy: His ATX PSU mod.
21:27 HighMan It looks like shit
21:27 Ponko lwq_laptop: i'm marrying yazoo
21:27 HighMan But... One second
21:27 Ponko not right now but it will
21:28 Monkeh hightechlab: I grew rapidly out of respect for Phontonic when he started all that.
21:28 Electricguy oh, he connected the green wire to a black? :P
21:28 lwq_laptop YAY -HUGS PONK-
21:28 HighMan :P
21:28 HighMan No.
21:28 Ponko what you have is puppy love
21:28 Ponko give it a few years
21:28 hightechlab who wants to see some good vids?
21:28 wannabe1987 hightechlab, where are you from?
21:28 * lwq_laptop hugs wannabe
21:28 hightechlab California, U.S.
21:28 Electricguy HighMan, care to tell me WHAT you did?
21:28 HighMan I also learned test leads are nice!
21:28 HighMan Electricguy Let me show you... I got to get my phone lol
21:29 Electricguy oki :)
21:29 Ponko http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0015Y7QQ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&amp;m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE this the ring my friend
21:29 BotSteve Title: Silver Cubic Zirconia Engagement Ring with Cubic Zirconia shoulders K: Amazon.co.uk: Jewellery
21:29 Experimentonomen i used to watch and follow photonicinduction, but after his childish responses and general attitude toward ppl replicating his stuff, i couldent care less about him
21:29 Ponko was cheeky and sent her a ring size checker ;)
21:29 hightechlab yea i saw it on his return on photonvids
21:29 Electricguy seems legit
21:29 lwq_laptop ponko you cheap bastard :P
21:29 eadthem back in a fue hours
21:29 Experimentonomen hightechlab, my youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheElectricnoob?feature=mhee
21:29 BotSteve Title: TheElectricnoob - YouTube
21:29 hightechlab ok cya
21:29 Ponko lwq_laptop: i'm broke
21:30 lwq_laptop lol i know, everyone is
21:30 hightechlab i saw scope and subbed i have to watch this
21:30 Ponko and that's a temp one the one i'll get will be 1K
21:30 Electricguy hightechlab, here is my jewtewbe channel :P http://www.youtube.com/user/sk7ca?feature=mhee
21:30 BotSteve Title: sk7ca - YouTube
21:30 Ponko and by the one i refer to the wedding ring
21:30 Zozo yay im up to 'L' un updating my MC plugins
21:31 Ponko MC Zozo
21:31 Ponko didn't kind of MC?
21:31 Ponko different*
21:31 Experimentonomen zozo, howz ur mc server comin along ?
21:31 hightechlab mine is: www.youtube.com/user/hightechlab    i spent alot of time on the vids, so please subscribe. i am going after a youtube partnership, and if i make enough money i will donate to thegeekgroup
21:31 hightechlab experiment: i have a minecraft server
21:31 Ponko ok laters folks downloading something then i'm off
21:32 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
21:32 Zozo well theres a few plugins that are dead
21:32 Zozo but still will be around 60+ plugins
21:32 lwq_laptop hightechlab: you dont know how to wire a mot o.0
21:32 hightechlab hey zozo: want to see my server?
21:32 Highman_ joined #thegeekgroup
21:32 Zozo and hightechlab: i run the unoffical geek group server
21:33 Highman_ Still can't find it...
21:33 Gaxnys Highman_: Server?
21:33 Gaxnys Oh
21:33 Gaxnys wrong person
21:33 Gaxnys :c
21:33 Highman_ XD
21:33 hightechlab the mot thing is not knowing how to wire it, as to running it well with a ballast
21:33 Gaxnys hightechlab: server?
21:33 Zozo and i cant currently but once im updated (if you use bukkit) you can join my minecraft network
21:33 hightechlab yes a minecraft server
21:33 hightechlab zozo is it hamachi?
21:33 Zozo go through a portal and be on a new server
21:33 Zozo no
21:34 Electricguy hightechlab, saw your boombox vid. here is a boombox i made a while ago :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynpZI4WstM
21:34 BotSteve Title: homemade ghettoblaster / boombox - YouTube
21:34 Gaxnys hightechlab: hamachi is for noobs. :c
21:34 lwq_laptop hightechlab: how old are you?
21:34 Zozo its a true server =)
21:34 hightechlab im 13
21:34 lwq_laptop oh cool im 15
21:34 * Electricguy is 19. almost 20
21:34 Experimentonomen im 26
21:34 hightechlab and zozo i hate hamachi, that is why i host through a great company
21:34 lwq_laptop wait highman how old are you?
21:34 * Gaxnys be 17. o:
21:34 * wannabe1987 turned 25 yesterday! :D
21:34 Zozo i host my own
21:34 wannabe1987 HighMan != hightechlab
21:35 hightechlab im highman?
21:35 lwq_laptop no, highman is highman
21:35 hightechlab oh i see
21:35 lwq_laptop hightechlab: lab is new
21:35 HighMan lol
21:35 hightechlab yea im NEOOOO
21:35 hightechlab lol
21:35 lwq_laptop highman how old are you
21:35 HighMan WHERE IS MY PHONE!
21:35 HighMan 14
21:35 Zozo but i own my own servers, and host through my own connections
21:35 lwq_laptop how old is toastdude?
21:35 HighMan 12?
21:36 wannabe1987 13
21:36 Gaxnys Zozo: Like the real guys do it. ;)
21:36 Electricguy 4!!!!
21:36 HighMan O ok
21:36 Electricguy o_O
21:36 wannabe1987 older than lee's girlfriend
21:36 Zozo no hosting companies =)
21:36 lwq_laptop oh shut up -.-
21:36 Zozo exactly Gaxnys
21:36 Zozo hehe
21:36 Electricguy lulz
21:36 wannabe1987 no
21:36 * lwq_laptop goes away
21:36 * Electricguy waves
21:36 hightechlab zozo: i did that, but my internet lagged badly.....i was thinking of going back and host it out of my dads office that has T1 internet
21:36 Zozo ew
21:36 Zozo T1s suck
21:36 hightechlab not really
21:37 lwq_laptop I HAS DSL
21:37 tonsofpcs wannabe turning 25 makes me feel old
21:37 wannabe1987 listen to zozo....
21:37 Zozo yea they do
21:37 lwq_laptop lol atleast it isnt dial up zozo
21:37 hightechlab yes, if you had OP3 once upon a time it sucks ass
21:37 Experimentonomen Zozo, i have wireless 3G internet, it would make T1 look like the best service u could get in comparison
21:37 hightechlab HAHA
21:37 Zozo T1s are slower than residential cable internet
21:37 hightechlab no its not
21:37 Zozo lol
21:37 hightechlab well sort of
21:37 lwq_laptop i want fiber :/ cant afford it though
21:38 astro73|alice remember when T1s were the shit?
21:38 hightechlab t1=more bandwith, but same speed
21:38 tonsofpcs T1 ~= 1.5mbps
21:38 Experimentonomen if i had better internet, i'd do streaming and host a minecraft server
21:38 Zozo ok dont listen to someone who worked for an ISP and fixed T1s and other lines
21:38 Gaxnys Experimentonomen: Telia?
21:38 Experimentonomen Gaxnys, Tele2 Large
21:38 tonsofpcs that said, are Ts still tarrifed, zozo?
21:38 HighMan Electricguy Almost lol
21:38 lwq_laptop i got good internet its my fucking company that i hate
21:38 Gaxnys Experimentonomen: Isn't tele2 supposted to be fast? :(
21:39 Gaxnys Experimentonomen: By the way, I can get gigabit from Tele2. :D
21:39 Zozo are what?
21:39 lwq_laptop for some reason once a month they pull it down and do repairs and shit
21:39 Monkeh hightechlab: Dude, bandwidth and speed are the same thing.
21:39 lwq_laptop lol
21:39 hightechlab tonsofpcs: if i goto speedtest.net, i get ping:42 download: 24.18 up:11.23
21:39 Experimentonomen it works but disconnects and drops out randomly, and every time that happens i get a new ip = i cant run a a mc server
21:39 hightechlab no bandwith is the lanes on the freeway, and speed is how fast the cars are going
21:39 Zozo Experimentonomen, use a dyndns client
21:40 tonsofpcs hightechlab: that means nothing
21:40 Gaxnys Experimentonomen: You do know that you can get a static IP for 30 sek per month, don't you?
21:40 hightechlab that is t1's speed
21:40 Monkeh hightechlab: .... No, bandwidth is how much data you can fit through at once. That's what you see when you're downloading.
21:40 hightechlab ANYWAY...im not concerned
21:40 Monkeh hightechlab: The actual speed is a bit complex (a factor of bandwidth and latency and blah, it's complicated)
21:40 * Electricguy decides to lurk instead as this chat turned into a mess of 4 conversations running at once
21:41 Experimentonomen Zozo, do u think 3GHz cpu and 16GB ram will be enuf ? i think just 2-3 players and more than 5 TNT at once will cause my machine to crash and reboot
21:41 hightechlab lol
21:41 Zozo also Experimentonomen, i MIGHT be able to host other servers soon if you are intrested
21:41 * tonsofpcs hands Monkeh a MTU calculator
21:41 HighMan HERE FINALLY!
21:41 HighMan http://i.imgur.com/UFepv.jpg
21:41 Monkeh hightechlab: T1 (DS1) is 1.5Mbps. I get 20Mbps on a normal ADSL2+ connection.
21:41 HighMan Yes. It's a hack. But ehh Electricguy ^
21:42 hightechlab my hosted server has 2400 mb of ram and a 3.6 ghz proscessor
21:42 Experimentonomen but then again im too lazy to build up a world to put on a server
21:42 Electricguy HighMan, oh good fucking lord.. XD did you HAVE to rape that poor PSU? XD
21:42 HighMan XD
21:42 tonsofpcs Monkeh: how many pps can you pull over your dsl
21:42 Zozo my main server uses dual core 3.0 with 8gb ram
21:42 hightechlab highman...i like that
21:43 HighMan I learned my lesson not to make holes to big if you don't measure first...
21:43 Zozo and 5-6Gb of that ram us used just to start my main server
21:43 Electricguy i'll see if i can get a pic of my modded ATX psu :)
21:43 HighMan It's a start.
21:43 HighMan And I just learned test leads are a godsend.
21:43 hightechlab i made a car movie screen and a pacman run on a cpu psu and i didnt have to use battereies
21:43 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Haven't worked it out. :P
21:44 Zozo i cant get "Mystian" (my main MC server) to start with anything less than 5Gb
21:44 HighMan This is a crappy psu... But.. Eh it's good, so long as it doesn't short.
21:44 HighMan Now.... To clean.
21:44 hightechlab highman: they are pretty good until you short, but its no biggie when you do, just unplug it for 30 secs then re-plug
21:44 HighMan Yep
21:45 * HighMan Does it 100 times because internal shorted.
21:46 Electricguy hightechlab, or disconnect and connect the green and black again
21:46 HighMan Is it ok to short it to the case?
21:46 Electricguy the case is the same as the black wires
21:46 hightechlab electricguy: yea....but not always
21:46 Monkeh It's not okay to short it at all
21:47 HighMan The green wire derp.
21:47 Electricguy on all 60+ ATX PSU's i've used at least XD
21:47 Monkeh That's not shorting
21:47 HighMan Well :P
21:47 lwq_laptop FUCK
21:47 hightechlab i know but its not likke that on them all when u short them
21:47 HighMan What's wrong?
21:47 Electricguy connecting the green to ground is pulling the PSU enable pin low
21:47 lwq_laptop CUT MYSELF ON MY TIN BOX I MADE
21:47 HighMan BANDAGE NOW
21:47 Electricguy wimp
21:47 lwq_laptop fuck bandage, i dont need no bandage
21:48 HighMan Electricguy Y U MAKE IT SAD!
21:48 Electricguy :P
21:48 HighMan It should be high now low :P
21:48 Electricguy ok, here is a crappy pic of my sloppy ATX PSU mod XD http://forumbilder.se/images/8b520121148017c83.jpg
21:48 Electricguy it aint pretty. that's why it's used under my lab bench where it's not visible XD
21:48 HighMan Shit
21:49 HighMan I have to lable them...
21:49 HighMan What's on top of the bindig posts?
21:49 hightechlab electric that is not that bad...
21:49 Electricguy it's a good thing to do
21:49 HighMan I need 1 more for ground. But ehh
21:49 Electricguy i think it looks pretty shitty... lol :P
21:49 hightechlab if it does the jub...
21:49 Electricguy the top of the binding posts?
21:49 tonsofpcs what are the mic connectors for?
21:49 lwq_laptop highman why did you use binding post, when i make one im going to use speaker terminals
21:49 HighMan ?^
21:49 HighMan Electricguy The BNCish connectors
21:50 Electricguy they are not mic connectors. they are modular connectors i took from a fancy ATX PSU. so i made some custom cables for them
21:50 lwq_laptop the nice ones that have a push button to release
21:50 HighMan Oh ok
21:50 Electricguy BNC-ish!?!?!?!? LOL! XD
21:50 HighMan :P
21:50 hightechlab gott go
21:50 Electricguy cya! :)
21:50 HighMan lwq_laptop Oh, well idk :P
21:50 HighMan Because you can't use testleads on them?
21:51 Electricguy also, there are no connectors with push button release on that psu .... :P
21:51 Zozo yay
21:51 Zozo he was annoying me
21:51 Electricguy XD
21:51 lwq_laptop lol
21:51 tonsofpcs .g 4 pin mic connector
21:51 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/DISTRIBUTED-BY-MCM-27-715-/27-715
21:51 Zozo i was only the chief technical officer for a ISP once... its not like i know anything about T1s
21:51 lwq_laptop highman i mean these http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StoreCatalogDrillDownView?langId=-1&amp;storeId=10001&amp;catalogId=10001&amp;freeText=speaker%20terminals&amp;search_type=jamecoall
21:51 BotSteve Title: Jameco Electronics - Electronic Components Distributor
21:52 HighMan What's BNC 3 pin/
21:52 Electricguy i wonder now WTF that thin black cable with 3 wires is used for on my PSU.... can't remember o_O
21:52 tonsofpcs Zozo: i didnt see an answer.  are they tarrifed still?
21:52 HighMan lwq_laptop Still no test lead...
21:53 Zozo huh?
21:53 Zozo i aksed what you ment then lol
21:53 tonsofpcs T1s
21:53 tonsofpcs is the line itself still a tarrifed service?
21:54 Zozo dunno, depends on the company
21:54 Zozo i know ATT in dallas still uses 50+ year old copper for theit T1s
22:01 HighMan Electricguy What's -12v? Blue or Purple. 1 diagram says it's pirple, another blue...
22:01 Electricguy http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml
22:01 BotSteve Title: ATX 24 pin power supply connector pinout and wiring @ pinouts.ru
22:01 Monkeh HighMan: Blue.
22:01 HighMan That's the versio?
22:01 HighMan Ok Thanks
22:01 Monkeh HighMan: Or, y'know, test it and see.
22:01 HighMan How... No voltage meter
22:02 Electricguy the colors are always the same. no matter if it's a 20 or 24 pin
22:02 Monkeh HighMan: GET ONE.
22:02 HighMan Electricguy http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml
22:02 BotSteve Title: ATX 24 pin power supply connector pinout and wiring @ pinouts.ru
22:02 Electricguy the colors CAN be off if it's some 90's copmpaq PSU or similar
22:02 HighMan http://www.helpwithpcs.com/courses/power-supply/atx-psu-pinouts.gif
22:02 Gaxnys Monkeh: An AVOmeter perhaps? :D
22:02 Monkeh Electricguy: Or Dhell
22:02 Electricguy yeah but dell don't follow the ATX standard
22:03 Monkeh they do
22:03 Monkeh Sometimes.
22:03 Monkeh They just like to change the pinout sometimes
22:03 Electricguy HighMan, why did you link me stuff that i already know about?
22:03 Electricguy yeah and use their own assraped connectores
22:03 Electricguy connectors*
22:05 tonsofpcs just use an AT PSU
22:05 Electricguy lol
22:05 Electricguy i have managed to kill one computer PSU by overload. it was a AT PSU :P
22:06 Electricguy it never shut off... lol
22:06 HighMan XD
22:06 Gaxnys My brother managed to short a PSU once... twice. There was quite a bit of smoke. :3
22:06 Electricguy got almost 70A from the 5V rail before it blew and caught fire.. lol :P
22:07 Electricguy if a computer PSU does'nt turn off due to overload it's either SHIT quality or something wrong with it :P
22:07 tonsofpcs i kiled an atx psu with a hdd that wasnt spinning at speed
22:07 Electricguy lol okey :P
22:07 HighMan Does this sound feasible, "My brother shoved a floppy disk into the computer and the psu fried"
22:07 Electricguy lulz http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399066_370319629666251_229187803779435_1177560_1983443520_n.jpg
22:08 Electricguy HighMan, that's technically impossible
22:08 HighMan XD
22:08 HighMan Electricguy Well I don't know, my bro killed my first computer :P I was 5
22:08 lwq_laptop can i say that the kid that was in here is an idiot
22:08 HighMan idk
22:09 Electricguy Lee, stop stating the obvious! :D
22:09 egrsteve is zozo around he was looking for me?
22:09 HighMan What's 5v VSB for?
22:09 tonsofpcs lwq_laptop: that lee kid?  *ducks*
22:09 HighMan Dumber than I am? xD
22:09 lwq_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkVI8lZXn0&amp;feature=channel
22:09 BotSteve Title: Multi use 100 amp outlet for generator or compressor - YouTube
22:09 Electricguy HighMan, it outputs 5V when the PSU is off
22:09 HighMan Oh... Well that's nice
22:09 Electricguy or, when the rest of the PSU is off
22:09 lwq_laptop i want to hit that kid
22:10 Electricguy you know he's a schmuck when he want to play with MOTs but don't even know how to hook one up
22:10 lwq_laptop I FUCKING KNOW XD
22:10 Electricguy outright dangerous
22:10 Electricguy and he said he put a lot of work in his vids... yeah right.. XD
22:11 Electricguy he got like 12 views and aims for a partnership.. :P
22:11 Gaxnys Electricguy: Nothing wrong with dreaming, right?
22:11 HighMan XD
22:11 lwq_laptop FOR WHAT IT IDIOT HE IS HE PROBALLY DID HIS BEST
22:11 HighMan Gaxnys True
22:11 lwq_laptop damn caps button
22:11 Gaxnys Electricguy: Sooner or later he will realize how it really works.
22:12 Electricguy Gaxnys, true. but there are limits! :D
22:12 HighMan And die.'
22:12 Gaxnys Electricguy: Meh. You should be swedish and don't point it out. Or maybe that's the japanese way? Either way..
22:13 HighMan llool
22:13 Electricguy lol :P
22:13 Monkeh Electricguy: What, high tech guy?
22:13 Gaxnys I may or may not end up living and working in Japan. :3
22:13 Electricguy yes
22:13 HighMan Is he dumber than I am?
22:14 Electricguy not sure :P
22:14 Electricguy didn't put much time to check his channel out.. lol :P
22:14 Monkeh Electricguy: Well when he thinks HighMan's PSU and your hackup are good, you know he's not smart. :P
22:14 Electricguy yeah XD
22:14 Electricguy my PSU looks pretty crappy.. i honestly think it does. and it was a very fast little mod cause i needed a PSU with lots of current XD
22:15 HighMan monkeh :'(
22:15 HighMan IT SHORTED AGAIN!
22:16 Gaxnys Well, off to bed now. Take care, and don't spend too much time hatin'. :D
22:16 HighMan WTF
22:16 Zozo later Gaxnys
22:16 Electricguy HighMan, please STOP doing that
22:16 Experimentonomen damn the new youtube layout, the ability to delete substribers have been removed :(
22:16 Monkeh That couldn't possibly be anything to do with the workmanship.
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22:18 Monkeh Electricguy: Oh, god, that video..
22:18 Monkeh He and his entire family need to stop touching electricity.
22:18 Electricguy which one?
22:18 Monkeh The one with the widow maker and the stupid generator connection.
22:18 Electricguy link please :)
22:18 Monkeh Look up
22:19 Electricguy ahh!
22:19 Electricguy got it
22:20 Electricguy WHY THE FUCKING CRACK ON A CRACKER DO THEY USE A MALE PLUG FROM THE GRID!?!?!?!?!!??
22:20 lwq_laptop i hope he accidently touches it one day and kills himself to be honest
22:20 Electricguy yes
22:21 Monkeh Electricguy: Because the generator has a socket on it and they don't want to have two cables, DUH!
22:21 Monkeh Idiots.
22:21 Electricguy MORONS!
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22:23 Experimentonomen g'evenin typobill ;)
22:24 peoducerBill-Pho Thanks
22:24 Monkeh Hey Bill
22:24 peoducerBill-Pho Hi everyone
22:24 wannabe1987 hi bill
22:24 Zozo hows it going dude?
22:25 peoducerBill-Pho Still working the rage out.
22:26 peoducerBill-Pho Getting better thanks to night coffee
22:26 Monkeh Source of rage?
22:26 Experimentonomen GH5 looks like a warzone :P
22:26 Electricguy lulz http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533126_138968459564511_137962996331724_137984_464272495_n.jpg
22:27 lwq_laptop im going to go and take a nap
22:27 wannabe1987 ok
22:27 Electricguy i'm going to bed! :D
22:27 Experimentonomen nite
22:27 Electricguy night night fellow geeks and see you later! :D
22:27 wannabe1987 night Electricguy
22:28 lwq_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
22:29 Experimentonomen btw im NOT a geek, im a NOOB
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22:30 peoducerBill-Pho Fixed my old HP laptop last night.
22:30 Talos452 How's it going Bill?
22:30 Talos452 Good Job on the Laptop!
22:30 HighMan Uhm..
22:30 peoducerBill-Pho Baked the motherboard at 500+ f
22:31 peoducerBill-Pho Seems to be working great now.
22:31 HighMan Electricguy How do you use -12v?
22:31 Experimentonomen peoducerBill-Pho, reflowing the gpu ?
22:31 Monkeh peoducerBill-Pho: nVidia chipset or GPU?
22:31 peoducerBill-Pho Thanks Taoism
22:32 peoducerBill-Pho The gpu reflow problem
22:32 Monkeh May not hold
22:33 peoducerBill-Pho I have done this before, but this time I baked it as hot as my oven will go
22:33 Monkeh heh
22:33 Monkeh Yeah, unfortunately they often just won't last
22:33 Monkeh Glad I thought a Thinkpad
22:33 peoducerBill-Pho We will see
22:35 Talos452 i see TGG has an Amber Strobe Lightbar.   Wondering if they'd sell it
22:35 Experimentonomen not likely
22:36 Talos452 didnt think so
22:36 Talos452 but a person can dream  lol
22:36 Experimentonomen i thought about asking chris if he'd send that umatic deck to me as he seemingly dident want it
22:37 hightechlab joined #thegeekgroup
22:37 hightechlab im here again
22:37 Experimentonomen until i realized intl shipping would have been like 10x what it took the few miles it had to travel to tgg
22:38 hightechlab lol
22:38 Monkeh hightechlab: Your house has severely dangerous and stupid wiring.
22:39 Experimentonomen Monkeh, its no point
22:39 hightechlab if you are not stupid with it, it is just fine
22:39 Monkeh One must try.
22:39 Monkeh No, it is not 'just fine'.
22:39 Experimentonomen its likely his parents that wired up that stupid dangerous wiring, or even a idiot electrician
22:40 hightechlab it is for a generator.....how would you do it better?
22:40 Monkeh hightechlab: ... With a suitable cable and a three-pole changeover switch.
22:40 Monkeh Y'know, the RIGHT way.
22:40 hightechlab but that is not for only the generator
22:40 Monkeh Although in your case that's probably four pole because you have split-phase systems over there.
22:40 Monkeh hightechlab: IT SHOULD BE!
22:41 hightechlab well, its not...
22:41 hightechlab it has been fine for 12 years....i dont see a problem
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22:42 Monkeh How old are you and how long have you been a qualified, practicing electrician?
22:43 hightechlab im not qualified, but it is a plug, on the wall, simply. then we plug in that big black cable and then it is diffrent.....if that black cable was not pugged in, it is simply n outlet
22:44 Monkeh hightechlab: That cable is dangerous and the connectors are not rated appropriately.
22:44 Monkeh You lack isolation of the earth conductor when operating on the generator.
22:44 hightechlab well, come to my house and fix it....
22:44 Monkeh It's a dangerous and stupid installation
22:45 hightechlab and i dont lack ground, as there is a ground rod hammeded in that is connected directly to the ground buss bar.
22:45 Monkeh I did not say you lack ground
22:45 Monkeh I said you don't ISOLATE IT when running on the generator.
22:45 Experimentonomen Monkeh, i bet the installation is even illegal and could leat to heavy fines if not jail if something did happen
22:45 Monkeh You CANNOT have any connection to the grid, INCLUDING AN EARTH when operating on a generator like that.
22:45 hightechlab whatever....
22:45 Monkeh You must use an appropriate changeover switch.
22:46 hightechlab i know youo can agree here: the ground is the ground right?
22:46 Monkeh Experimentonomen: If a lineman dies thanks to that setup it's involuntary manslaughter.
22:46 Monkeh hightechlab: No.
22:46 hightechlab dirt is dirt
22:46 Monkeh It's not.
22:46 hightechlab so dirt is not dirt?
22:46 Monkeh Sure, dirt is dirt
22:47 Monkeh But ground potential at point A != ground potential at point B.
22:47 hightechlab and if i pass electricity through the dirt, it is still dirt right?
22:47 Monkeh It's dirt which can now kill someone
22:48 hightechlab no, because electricity wants to find the path of least resistance to ground (AC)
22:48 Monkeh No, it takes any path to its source.
22:48 Monkeh It does not have to be earth referenced in any way
22:48 hightechlab ok, that being said, im done talking about this.......
22:48 Monkeh If you offer it two paths of differing resistance, current will flow via both.
22:49 hightechlab Think about water.....if there is a straw 5 mm wide, and a straw 1 cm wide, which will it want to flow through?
22:50 Monkeh More will flow through the larger straw. It will still flow through both.
22:50 hightechlab the thicker one
22:50 Monkeh Of course in the case of emptying a sealed vessel you'll end up with air entering through the other
22:50 Monkeh The water analogy only goes so far
22:50 Monkeh And isn't generally used when discussing electricity with people who actually know how it works, fyi.
22:51 hightechlab lets just drop this, cus im sick of talking to a wall
22:51 wannabe1987 ...
22:51 Experimentonomen Monkeh: http://i.imgur.com/6SMOZ.png <-- i interpret "change over" like that
22:51 Monkeh hightechlab: You have an earth rod. You short out a 240VAC supply to it without overcurrent protection.
22:51 Zozo hes the one who is right, and you just dont want to hear it
22:51 Monkeh hightechlab: A horse stands with its back legs next to the rod and the front legs facing directly away.
22:51 Monkeh The horse DIES.
22:52 Monkeh And yes, I am quite serious.
22:52 wannabe1987 egrsteve is this you trolling again?
22:52 Experimentonomen step currents
22:52 hightechlab in that diagram, where is the ground??? NOWHERE!
22:53 hightechlab and u say nothing LOL
22:53 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Earth is also switched.
22:53 Experimentonomen on a generator, ground is usually the frame
22:53 Monkeh hightechlab: THat's because it's been drawn by someone not sure what I'm talking about.
22:53 hightechlab whatever
22:54 Zozo hightechlab, please remember you are talking to people who have spent more time working with electricity than you have been alive
22:54 Experimentonomen Monkeh, im not sure if were talkign  about a permanent install or a little pullstart genny that should only power like a tv or power tool and not a whole building
22:54 tonsofpcs hightechlab: it is illegal in most places to install a generator without a PE's authorty and an agrement with the mains power source
22:54 hightechlab ill just continue with what im doing.....and anyway, i dont use it for the gene anymore, just the compressor
22:54 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Either, if you have earth connected and there's an earth fault on an appliance, you could potentially electrocute a lineman down the way.
22:55 hightechlab anyway the generator IS isolated from the grid
22:55 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Unless you have a grid-syncing generator which automatically switches off when the grid is lost, you must have an all-pole including earth changeover switch or thigns can go badly wrong.
22:55 Monkeh hightechlab: Is the earth isolated?
22:55 tonsofpcs hightechlab: how?.
22:56 hightechlab if you flip off the main, the buss bars are isolated from the grid power input
22:56 tonsofpcs Monkeh: depends on where the service trnsformers a
22:56 tonsofpcs re
22:56 tonsofpcs mind you, in residential you most certainly dont have control of them
22:56 hightechlab imagine this:
22:56 Monkeh tonsofpcs: We're talking an ordinary domestic installation here, and I'm talking from the POV of a european style setup.
22:56 hightechlab grid goes off
22:57 hightechlab min breaker goes off
22:57 hightechlab main^
22:57 hightechlab generator starts
22:57 tonsofpcs hightechlab: the fact that you have to switch off the main makes  it a HUGE safety issue and a code vioation
22:57 Monkeh And in any normal installation I've seen the earth isn't isolated
22:57 hightechlab ^^ EXACTLY!
22:57 Monkeh And it shouldn't be possible for safety reasons to connect the generator to the installation with the installation connected to the grid
22:57 Monkeh That's what a changeover switch is for.
22:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh: exactly.
22:58 hightechlab right, but were technically doing that manually
22:58 Monkeh Which is not allowed.
22:58 Monkeh You must have a mechanical interlock (which can be electrically operated)
22:59 Monkeh I've seen this done on everything from a caravan to an entire factory
22:59 tonsofpcs hightechlab: anything requiring manual safety measures is inherently unsafe
22:59 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/h7BwT.png <-- with ground, however these changeover boxes SHOULD be included with ALL permanent installation generators
22:59 hightechlab because of the society we live in
22:59 SparkyProjects Monkeh, for a generator installation, you only need a contactor system that changes all poles, not earth
22:59 Monkeh SparkyProjects: The ones I've seen include earth.
23:00 Monkeh Which makes quite a bit of sense if the earth gets damaged
23:00 SparkyProjects The contactor system must have an electrical and mechanical interlock so both sides cannot be on at the same time
23:00 hightechlab thanks for being concerned with my saftey
23:00 Monkeh An earth fault can go unnoticed until a lineman steps in front of it and kills himself.
23:00 tonsofpcs we have a manual bypass for our UPS at work. it is a keyed interlock system that prevents the possibility of an unsafe state
23:00 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, in my drawing, the contactors can only activate if theres power on the grid, which would disconnect the genny
23:00 Monkeh The risk is pretty low with a modern PME system mind
23:01 SparkyProjects I don't see how disconnecting earth will make a difference, there are piped services that are connected to the system, you can't disconnect those
23:01 tonsofpcs two switches could electrically do it but it is physically possible fornthem to  be in an unsafe state.
23:01 Monkeh SparkyProjects: You're assuming they make a sufficiently good connection to isolate an earth fault.
23:01 tonsofpcs that's illegal.
23:01 SparkyProjects I worked on plenty of generator systems, and even built a generator start/changeover panel
23:01 Monkeh In a system designed to expect a low impedance earth, that may not be the case
23:02 wannabe1987 its the face of bo!
23:02 Monkeh wannabe1987: Y'know, I still wonder about that. They never cleared it up.
23:02 wannabe1987 ?
23:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: our ground doesn't exist outside our building so we dont swiitch it
23:02 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: the cntactors also need a mechanical interlock
23:02 Experimentonomen switching the earlth allows the RCD to remain in function even under generator power
23:02 tonsofpcs but we're fed 3ph, not split
23:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yeah, earthing systems vary.
23:03 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Hell, the risk of issues with a PME system like mine is low. I'd still switch the earth.
23:03 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, wired like in my drawing, its impossible for the genny to engage while under grid power
23:03 tonsofpcs residential would be fed split
23:03 Experimentonomen notice the contactors toggling between grid and genny
23:03 Monkeh On the other hand, pretty much all changeover switches are 3ph or 3ph+n so there's a terminal waiting for you.
23:03 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yeah, we get single phase or three phase normally.
23:03 Monkeh Split exists in some areas.
23:04 Monkeh Typically only where a single HV phase has been run out
23:04 SparkyProjects until something goes wrong with the contacts in the contactors
23:04 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: you're floating the safetyy ground there
23:04 Monkeh There needs to be a sufficient permanent earth installed if you're going to switch the supplied earth, obviously.
23:05 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, i drew it like gthat since the safety groun d usually comes from the grid
23:05 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: you need a safety ground when the grid is off
23:05 Experimentonomen in sweden we dont have a local ground pole as far as i know
23:05 SparkyProjects Monkeh, no, you never disconnect earth in a generator system, it's a safety feature, and there would be no point
23:06 Experimentonomen the grouding happens back at the power plant/substation
23:06 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: ewwww
23:06 SparkyProjects http://www.galco.com/buy/ABB/AE75M-30-11-81
23:06 BotSteve Title: AE75M-30-11-81 - ABB - MECH INTERLOCKED CONTACTOR, 24VDC
23:06 tonsofpcs hightechlab: what country are you in?
23:06 hightechlab us
23:06 tonsofpcs hightechlab: who makes your panel?
23:06 Monkeh SparkyProjects: What happens when an unisolated ground fault (I admit, that requires a badly designed installation in the first place) goes back down a neutral/ground conductor, then?
23:06 hightechlab idk
23:06 tonsofpcs go look
23:07 hightechlab ok...brb
23:07 SparkyProjects If the fault occurs while on generator, then it goes to the ground plate or rod attached to the generator frame
23:08 Monkeh But the potential will still be present down the line where someone might be working
23:08 hightechlab siemens
23:08 SparkyProjects Nope, it's grounded
23:08 tonsofpcs hightechlab: great!
23:08 hightechlab y?
23:08 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, Monkeh, SparkyProjects, im just about as dumb as hightechlab, aint i ?
23:09 hightechlab lol
23:09 HighMan masterofmonks!
23:09 HighMan lwq_laptop He's here.
23:09 SparkyProjects Not dumb, just learning
23:09 Experimentonomen i have never actually seen a schematic for a generator installation
23:09 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Again, I'm working on the basis of a poor earth at the generator here.
23:10 Monkeh But if the earth is good (better than the average 'just whack a rod in' example), the risk would be minimal.
23:10 SparkyProjects That's just as likely as a poor earth on an electrical installation
23:10 hightechlab which is what i have
23:10 hightechlab a ground rod
23:10 Experimentonomen besides most permanent install generators are wired inline between incoming mains and the building breaker panel anyways
23:10 Monkeh I'd say it's a lot more likely than a poor earth on a PME system
23:11 Monkeh But on the flipside, on a PME system there should be multiple intact earthing points between you and any break in the supply
23:11 tonsofpcs hightechlab: call a local electrical contractor, tell them you have a siemens panel and a standby geerator and want them to iinstall a manual changeovr so that it is done safely.
23:12 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Either way, check out his generator setup. 20A connectors on a 50A breaker, double widowmaker cable.
23:12 hightechlab and will i have to change my cord for the genny?
23:12 tonsofpcs they will give you a good deal because they'd rather not endanger linesmen
23:12 Monkeh If I saw that I'd remove it and not return it.
23:12 tonsofpcs change your cord?
23:12 hightechlab did u see my vid?
23:12 tonsofpcs no
23:13 Monkeh Yes, it needs a plug on the generator end and a socket (or hard wired) at the installation end.
23:13 Monkeh The plug can never be live thanks to the changeover switch.
23:13 tonsofpcs a plug???
23:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: .. yes, the generator will have a socket on it.
23:13 hightechlab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkVI8lZXn0
23:13 BotSteve Title: Multi use 100 amp outlet for generator or compressor - YouTube
23:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: The changeover switch prevents that plug from ever being live unless plugged into the generator.
23:14 masterofmonks HighMan, What?
23:14 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: i could do a drawing easily, but if you imagine that the control circuit of the power line to the coil goes through a NC contact on the generator contactor, and vice versa for the generator control, that's electrical interlock, mechanical interlock is a built in feature of interlock contactors
23:15 tonsofpcs i got 30s in and i'll stop you there
23:15 hightechlab lol
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23:16 SparkyProjects Rating the contactor contacts, i would go quite a bit higher, like for a 1000Amp installation, at least 150Amp contactors
23:16 tonsofpcs 1) NEMA twist-lock connectors are NEVER to be mated hot.  they don't have adequate spacing between pins on thr male
23:16 tonsofpcs 2) for the same reason, a male twist lock should never be able to be hot while disconnected
23:16 hightechlab thats why you mate them when the power is off
23:16 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Wow, quality design that.
23:17 tonsofpcs 3)  MALE connectors of any variety should not ever be hot while not plugged in
23:17 Monkeh You guys need an invasion of IEC 60309 connectors.
23:17 tonsofpcs oh, we have them for higher powers
23:18 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, my diagram is fos automatic changeover, not manual, as in coils hardwired to incoming mains on their own dedicated fuse, if coils loose power, house goes black unless the genny is running or failed to autostart on blackout detection
23:18 Monkeh I like IEC connectors. They're bulletproof little buggers.
23:19 hightechlab invasion of IEC 60309 connectors would be good, if you had money
23:19 Monkeh Because god forbid you spend money on electrical safety
23:19 SparkyProjects So how would you automatically changeover without coils ?
23:19 hightechlab you dont automatically
23:20 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, with mains active, the coild are energized, when mains is lost, the coils releases, changing over to the genny
23:20 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: i know of one way but it isnt safe
23:20 hightechlab this setup is rarely used
23:20 Monkeh Which just increases the chances of making a mistake of the explosive or fatal variety
23:21 tonsofpcs hightechlab: why not just use the proper connector on each side?
23:21 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Because they want to use the same cable to connect the generator and the compressor because they're cheap.
23:21 tonsofpcs also, those cables arent rated for outdoor use yet alone installation
23:21 hightechlab because the genny has a female, and 2 females wont plug together
23:21 SparkyProjects ah, misread.
23:21 SparkyProjects Yes you can do that, but you must have both forms of interlock if your power comes from a public network.
23:22 egrsteve is some one discussing a double male death cord here?
23:22 hightechlab tonsofpcs yes it is rated for outdoor use
23:22 Monkeh egrsteve: Yes, he has a gigantic widowmaker.
23:22 egrsteve great, just the talk we need in here
23:23 SparkyProjects The problem is, if the genny is powering the system, and the power is restored, you need a relay to drop the generator contactor so it can restore to power
23:23 Monkeh hightechlab: The three seperate conductors with no sheath running to your compressor? No, they're not rated for outdoor use.
23:23 hightechlab i thot u were talking about the input cord
23:23 Monkeh I haven't even seen that bit clearly
23:23 tonsofpcs neither is rated for installation outdoors
23:24 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, due to the risk that the contactor in my drawing might contact the mains contacts before the genny contacts loose connection ?
23:24 Monkeh But that connector does not look safe for outdoor use.
23:24 Monkeh Especially in the middle of a cable.
23:24 tonsofpcs Monkeh: it is not.  they make booted versions for temporary outdoor use
23:24 wannabe1987 yay weeping angels :D
23:24 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Meanwhile, a suitable installed 60309 socket is perfectly fine outdoors :P
23:24 * tonsofpcs turns wannabe1987 around
23:25 Monkeh http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Mated-16A-Plug-And-Socket.jpg
23:25 wannabe1987 noes!  zozo'll keep looking at them for me :D
23:25 egrsteve you should use one contactor not 2 or have a physical interlink to switch them so it is impossible both are on at the same time
23:25 tonsofpcs Monkeh: the socket is rated, but not in-line in that sty;e
23:26 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Fair enough. I think inlines are rated IP44 for 60309 too.
23:26 egrsteve is that pin and sleave?
23:26 Experimentonomen egrsteve, if u mean my drawing i dont have triple pole relays in that program, just spdt and dpdt relays
23:26 Monkeh Just don't drop one in a puddle
23:26 egrsteve i have not seen the drawing
23:26 egrsteve i just returned
23:26 Experimentonomen egrsteve: http://i.imgur.com/h7BwT.png
23:26 Experimentonomen i think¨
23:26 Monkeh egrsteve: The 60309?
23:27 egrsteve ?
23:27 Monkeh egrsteve: The iamge I linked above?
23:28 egrsteve yes
23:28 Monkeh No
23:28 Monkeh That's an IEC 60309
23:28 Monkeh Similar looking
23:28 tonsofpcs hightechlab: hire a contractor to do it right
23:29 SparkyProjects One thing to note, the separation between mains and generator on the contactors must be high, or you could get flashover
23:29 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Mmm, arcing.
23:29 SparkyProjects yep
23:29 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I do love a nice big arc.
23:30 SparkyProjects same here, but i would not like to repair the damage every time the power returns
23:30 Monkeh With a big enough installation, that basically means replacing the installation and possibly the building.. ;)
23:30 Monkeh Biiiiiig arcs.
23:30 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: build a giant ladder that you only run pn genny when ,ains is out ;)
23:31 Monkeh Self extinguising plastic doesn't do so well when it's asked to contain a 10kA arc.
23:31 tonsofpcs Monkeh: bakelite?
23:31 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Honestly, I have no idea what sort of properties bakelite has when it comes to fire.
23:32 Monkeh I've got an old MK CU in the garage and can call on about 3.5kA... shall we find out?
23:32 SparkyProjects You used to be able to get proper changeover contactors, a set of contacts at the top, a set of contacts at the bottom, and a single armature that moved between both, activated by 2 coils
23:32 tonsofpcs Monkeh: it gets brittle.... i've never seen any past that state
23:33 tonsofpcs hightechlab: it is illegal to backfeed s panel
23:33 HighMan Monkeh: Yep, purple is 5v+ vsb.... I shorted it out when green wasn't grounded.
23:34 Monkeh HighMan: Yes, I know what purple is.
23:34 HighMan I saw 2 different diagrams :P
23:34 Monkeh I've been using ATX supplies since before you had a PC :P
23:34 hightechlab i donthave a pc lol
23:35 Monkeh Oh god, don't tell me you're a Mac person
23:35 hightechlab wait....pc=windows, or pc=tower
23:35 egrsteve pc=personal computer
23:35 Monkeh Generally, PC = computer not a Mac.
23:35 tonsofpcs pc = personal computer
23:36 HighMan monkeh: XD
23:36 hightechlab ok...i have a pc
23:36 Experimentonomen a mac is technically also a pc as pc means personal computer = doesent matter what os it runs or who made it
23:36 egrsteve versus main frame
23:36 Monkeh You can run DOS on it if you like, it's still a PC.
23:36 hightechlab i thought a laptop wasnt a pc
23:36 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Yes, but we don't consider Macs to be PCs.
23:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh: hey, one of my tons is a powerbowok
23:36 Monkeh tonsofpcs: And some of those are cool.
23:37 Monkeh hightechlab: Is it a computer? Does it belong to you, not an organisation or company?
23:37 Monkeh Does it run an OS other than Mac OS?
23:37 egrsteve and this apple ran power PC CPUs for years
23:37 hightechlab it is mine yes...
23:37 Experimentonomen Monkeh,  cuz the word "pc" have ben assosiated with microsoft and windows
23:37 hightechlab ;llol
23:37 Monkeh Experimentonomen: No, I just associate it with normal hardware rather than Apple specific hardware.
23:37 Monkeh I know that's a blurry line
23:38 Monkeh But it makes sense because Macs are a special case
23:38 wannabe1987 wibbly wobbly timey wimey
23:38 hightechlab reasons: mac not pc, iphone not a pc, androaid not a pc, and so on
23:38 Monkeh wannabe1987: You're having too much fun.
23:38 wannabe1987 i'm not playing dr who...its on zozo's machine
23:38 wannabe1987 i'm just watching
23:39 Monkeh Zozo: You're having too much fun with wannabe1987
23:39 hightechlab wait u guys know eachother
23:39 egrsteve yell at zozo for me
23:39 Monkeh ZOZO!
23:39 Monkeh egrsteve: Done
23:39 Zozo ?
23:39 hightechlab ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO ZOZO !!!!!
23:39 egrsteve I was talking to kelly
23:39 Cprossu wtfx?
23:39 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
23:39 Monkeh I know but I thought I'd yell at him too
23:39 BotSteve At 06:11Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell cprossu why vegas? why not adobe cs?
23:39 wannabe1987 why?
23:39 egrsteve wannabe1987: yell at zozo for me
23:39 * masterofmonks sets mode #thegeekgroup +q HighMan
23:39 Monkeh Holy crap it's Cprossu
23:39 Monkeh Cprossu: You fix Boden's PC yet?
23:40 Monkeh masterofmonks: You hit the wrong target there
23:40 Cprossu Monkeh he won't let me
23:40 egrsteve have him check PMs
23:40 Monkeh For a change
23:40 Monkeh Cprossu: ?!
23:40 Zozo i saw
23:40 masterofmonks Monkeh, You assume much.
23:40 egrsteve ok
23:40 Monkeh masterofmonks: Ah, just oute of spite was it?
23:40 Zozo sorry been unsoldering a board
23:40 Cprossu egrsteve are you stopping in tonight? just curious
23:40 Cprossu me and yNos were just working on batman's truck
23:41 Monkeh Cprossu: He forcing you to act as slave labor on GH5 instead?
23:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: !
23:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: why vegas?
23:41 Cprossu got the fuel injector rail back installed.
23:41 egrsteve no, but I should be in tomarrow around 6
23:41 wannabe1987 yay
23:41 Cprossu tonsofpcs: shhhhhh don't make fun of the kid
23:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ?
23:41 egrsteve at least he isn't using s video toaster
23:41 tonsofpcs why not adobe cs?
23:42 tonsofpcs egrsteve: i resemble that remark!
23:42 egrsteve although it might be an improvement
23:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs: that's not my dept.
23:42 tonsofpcs (well, they're not currently operational)
23:42 egrsteve or a media 100
23:42 Cprossu I need to take a shower
23:42 Cprossu the gas in batmans truck smells bad
23:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: i think he can get cs production for $140
23:43 egrsteve I remember dps velocity beifly as well
23:43 Monkeh Cprossu: Has Cory figured out how to hit a wall with a crowbar yet?
23:43 Cprossu he seemed to be doing fine
23:43 tonsofpcs egrsteve: i think your dekos have velocity cards, no?
23:43 Cprossu I wasn't at gh5 today
23:43 egrsteve IDK
23:43 wannabe1987 i dont' think anyone was...?
23:43 tonsofpcs or chyrons maybe
23:44 egrsteve maybe, most of it is altera based either way
23:44 tonsofpcs i know my chyron does
23:44 Cprossu send us some sdi cameras and the latest in nvidia/blackmagic sdi cards then we'll talk
23:44 Cprossu xD
23:45 Cprossu I really must partake in showering now
23:45 Monkeh Cprossu: Oh, you just reminded me
23:45 tonsofpcs eww bmd
23:45 Cprossu btw egrsteve got my towels
23:45 Monkeh I ran into an interesting nVidia bug the other day
23:45 Monkeh Damn driver ate up 3GB of RAM. No idea how.
23:45 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the new nvidia gpu series seem nice
23:45 egrsteve ok, back to my book
23:45 Monkeh egrsteve: Hmm. good plan.
23:45 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
23:45 Cprossu will you be stopping by tomorrow steve?
23:46 wannabe1987 yes cpro
23:46 hightechlab so monkeh, what is your real name?
23:46 wannabe1987 he said after 6
23:46 tonsofpcs around 6
23:46 Cprossu rofl
23:46 egrsteve 6pm ish
23:46 Cprossu lates
23:46 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
23:46 Monkeh hightechlab: You can find out easily enough.
23:46 wannabe1987 i'll find out where you live....:)
23:46 wannabe1987 *creepy grin*
23:46 * Cprossu returns to ignoring his laptop in order to keep showered
23:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: also, stereotool for processing, dont forget a LPF
23:47 HighMan masterofmonks
23:47 HighMan What the heck
23:48 wannabe1987 don't stop looking at the angels, but don't look at them too long, either, k?
23:49 Monkeh wannabe1987: They're one of the best creatures yet.
23:49 tonsofpcs bfm?
23:50 HighMan Hi Cprossu
23:52 wannabe1987 you're late, he's busy....gah
23:53 wannabe1987 i see him tho...:)
23:53 wannabe1987 cuz i'm awesome like that :D
23:53 Hackbat has anyone one here read discworld?
23:53 Talos452 left #thegeekgroup
23:53 tonsofpcs you see him in the shower?
23:54 wannabe1987 no
23:54 wannabe1987 he's making food :P
23:54 wannabe1987 he changed his mind about the order of life
23:54 tonsofpcs oh
23:55 tonsofpcs thats less creepy
23:55 HighMan .log
23:55 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
23:55 wannabe1987 lol i *could* go up to the showers, but i'm not allowed up there
23:55 wannabe1987 and it'd be awkward
23:55 wannabe1987 new topic
23:55 Jorden joined #thegeekgroup
23:56 wannabe1987 hi Jorden
23:56 Jorden hi
23:56 tonsofpcs how to get my voice back?
23:56 wannabe1987 ask a mod?
23:56 HighMan /mode tonsofpcs +v
23:56 HighMan it's either +v or +V
23:56 wannabe1987 how are you Jorden?
23:56 wannabe1987 +v
23:57 HighMan Sh ok
23:57 HighMan *Ah ok
23:57 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: the one that my cold made me lose
23:57 wannabe1987 but i know what you mean....
23:57 Jorden good and you wannabe1987
23:57 wannabe1987 doing well
23:58 tonsofpcs i was feeling better this am so i went to work to file my time sheet, called to order chinese food and about two words in i lost it
23:58 wannabe1987 :/
23:59 Jorden got to go do my dises
23:59 Jorden bey azll
23:59 Jorden ment bay all
23:59 tonsofpcs i can squeak out words

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