Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-26

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00:00 tonsofpcs seems like lower freqs are easier
00:01 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: this is just a simple circuit http://i43.tinypic.com/raqkw1.gif
00:01 Cheezmo Bought a couple MtG boosters at my FLGS yesterday... my Dark Ascension booster had 'Sorin, Lord of Innistrad' and 'Huntmaster of the Fells' in it :I
00:02 Cheezmo my friend is so jelly, because those are the top 2 valued cards in the series
00:02 tonsofpcs Cheezmo: datatog doesnt exist here for me to be impressed
00:02 Cheezmo do wat
00:03 tonsofpcs 20:02:55 <tonsofpcs> sorin lord
00:03 tonsofpcs 20:02:55 <Datatog> Sorin, Lord of Innistrad {2WB} |Planeswalker -- Sorin| 3 loyalty. +1: Put a 1/1 black .... [says the whole thing]
00:07 tonsofpcs i stopped memprizing cards 1/3 of the way through alpha
00:09 hightechlab we should have a lon heated conversation again LOL Jk
00:10 tonsofpcs hightechlab: you should hire an electrician
00:10 hightechlab know any good ones?
00:10 * egrsteve continues lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
00:10 tonsofpcs where?
00:10 wannabe1987 cali
00:10 tonsofpcs egrsteve: why? :-p
00:10 hightechlab use zip code 95337
00:10 wannabe1987 because he can
00:11 tonsofpcs nope, but you can ask the town clerk who thry use for projects
00:12 hightechlab use for projects?
00:14 JustoStyle joined #thegeekgroup
00:14 wannabe1987 ajprog_laptop you around?
00:16 hightechlab so hi justo
00:18 VtGuy joined #thegeekgroup
00:21 hightechlab hi vtguy
00:21 VtGuy hello
00:21 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
00:21 wannabe1987 hi druid
00:22 VtGuy not much just popping in from Vermont
00:22 wannabe1987 cool
00:22 Druidic_Rifleman i was working on ninja claws today.... i can't wait to try them on something
00:22 Druidic_Rifleman I am going to need some 1 gallon jugs and food collouring and a high speed camera
00:22 VtGuy cool
00:23 VtGuy oh that would be awesome
00:23 VtGuy messy too
00:25 tonsofpcs where in vt?
00:26 VtGuy Way northwest on the US Canada border
00:26 wannabe1987 no offense to anyone but hightechlab is the new highman
00:26 wannabe1987 :P
00:26 HighMan :'(
00:26 HighMan I agree to.
00:26 tonsofpcs hmmm odds of you havib ties to plattsburgh seem high
00:27 Druidic_Rifleman you know i have not had a need to ignore highman in a while
00:27 wannabe1987 same
00:27 VtGuy no ties to Platts but its like an hour away from mw
00:27 VtGuy me
00:27 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: me neither, he;'s been on ignore for a month or so
00:27 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: highman never tried anything so dangerous
00:28 Druidic_Rifleman he's still on probation won't take munch
00:28 tonsofpcs did they ever fiñsh tre new bridge?
00:28 Druidic_Rifleman what is new troll kid wanting to do
00:28 wannabe1987 i don't know what hightechlab was doing...i just annoyed certian people too much
00:28 VtGuy yup
00:28 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: fry linesmen
00:28 HighMan He asked if his laptop was a pc.
00:28 Druidic_Rifleman Murder/negligant hommicide
00:29 wannabe1987 ...pc = personal computer
00:29 tonsofpcs VtGuy: cool.  i msy have to take it instead of the ferry when i visit jefersonville this summer
00:29 VtGuy talking about the one on the south part of champlain right
00:29 Druidic_Rifleman you don't even have the balls to look at the guy? thats pussy...
00:29 HighMan vTech?
00:29 Druidic_Rifleman vermont
00:29 tonsofpcs VtGuy: only one they took out to rebuild that i kknow of
00:30 VtGuy well there is the one the replaced 2 years ago in the north
00:30 tonsofpcs ya, that one ^^
00:31 tonsofpcs replaced being the operative word
00:31 VtGuy but the one they colsed due to it was about to fall is done now
00:31 VtGuy um i mean closed lol
00:32 Experimentonomen who is VtGuy ?
00:33 VtGuy I'm Jason and i'm new here
00:33 Experimentonomen oki
00:34 HighTechLab joined #thegeekgroup
00:34 HighTechLab hi
00:35 VtGuy hmm looks like Hightechlab having some issues
00:35 wannabe1987 its ok
00:36 VtGuy lol i'm not worried, was more of an observation
00:37 wannabe1987 ah
00:37 wannabe1987 ok
00:37 Monkeh|Lap It's better that he's not here. :P
00:37 wannabe1987 yes
00:37 VtGuy um ok?
00:38 Monkeh|Lap VtGuy: He is, shall we say, unsmart. And a kid.
00:38 tonsofpcs he posted a video holding a male plug w/ 240v on it
00:38 VtGuy Ah I see
00:38 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hey, I can post a video of me holding up live 240V cables too.
00:39 Monkeh|Lap .. the difference, of course, is that I know what I'm doing when holding a live conductor.
00:39 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: but you'd do it safely
00:39 Druidic_Rifleman whats the most one should spend on a project truck which needs a new bed
00:39 tonsofpcs $3.74
00:39 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I don't mind holding something with a big fat piece of copper hanging out the end at 240V. It's safe. If you know what not to do while holding it. :)
00:40 SparkyProjects I've already posted a vid of me holding a live cable, and none of your 120v stuff :P
00:40 VtGuy wow you have to be safe doing things like that otherwise its your last
00:40 Monkeh|Lap Hell, I'll hang on to it if you want me to. Just let me get well clear of anything earthed.
00:40 Monkeh|Lap You really don't want accidents while doing that. :)
00:40 VtGuy nope
00:41 Monkeh|Lap And the sockets I normally work off of are not RCD protected.
00:41 * tonsofpcs hands Monkeh|Lap a iberglas ladder and a bleeder R
00:41 VtGuy <Druidic_Rifleman> depends on the truck
00:41 SparkyProjects VtGuy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6f30SQHGM
00:41 BotSteve Title: Electricity and Respect - YouTube
00:42 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I'd like a nice ceramic floor in a workshop.. Just need to find suitable tiles.
00:42 Monkeh|Lap Walk around barefoot and not care. :)
00:42 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: pour glass
00:43 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: That's.. actually a cool idea.
00:43 tonsofpcs :)
00:43 Monkeh|Lap A solid toughened glass floor would be amazing
00:43 tonsofpcs gorilla glass floor
00:43 Monkeh|Lap Just don't get it wet
00:43 Monkeh|Lap Or you'll be laying on it with broken things wishing you'd never done it
00:43 tonsofpcs let's call corning in the mornig
00:44 SparkyProjects It's ok to get it wet, as long as the water doesn't earth
00:44 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: slippery
00:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: No, I mean.. smooth glass floor + water = oh shit I just fell flat on my arse
00:44 tonsofpcs alternatively texture it
00:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hmm, I'm not sure how durable it'd be if textured.
00:45 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: just let it cure with a textured 'stamp' on top, shpuld be the same if not stronger
00:46 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'm just thinking the peaks might be brittle.
00:46 tonsofpcs i'm sure corning has a solution
00:46 Monkeh|Lap Give 'em a call
00:49 tonsofpcs http://www.ibpglassblock.com/floor/st.htm
00:49 BotSteve Title: GlassWalk ST - Stair Tread System | IBP
00:50 VtGuy every time i look at the MDH video feed the lights are on and looks to be nobody there
00:50 wannabe1987 its sunday
00:50 wannabe1987 noones supposed to be here/there
00:50 VtGuy lol I would not leave the lights on then
00:51 wannabe1987 there were/are people working on lucy (batmans truck)earlier
00:51 VtGuy oh I missed it
00:52 VtGuy it would be cool if the weather cam was on!
00:53 tonsofpcs see ^
00:53 tonsofpcs everyone loves the wxcam but chris
00:54 wannabe1987 there are times in which we can't do the weathercam
00:54 VtGuy ya getting dark there now if not already dark
00:55 wannabe1987 apparently its dark out :/
00:55 egrsteve the weather cam offers a better view than an empty room, but somehow he doesn't see that
00:55 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
00:55 tonsofpcs egrsteve++
00:56 egrsteve thats egrsteve++;
00:56 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
00:57 VtGuy Cant remember is Michigan is in Central or MT time
00:57 wannabe1987 eastern
00:57 wannabe1987 :P
00:58 tonsofpcs 12h west and still the same tz
00:58 wannabe1987 mhm
00:58 tonsofpcs blame canada
00:59 wannabe1987 ok
00:59 VtGuy why Canada
01:01 tonsofpcs http://hawaii.hawaii.edu/math/Courses/Math100/Chapter3/Notes/TimeZonesUSA.htm
01:01 BotSteve Title: U.S. Time Zones
01:01 VtGuy Grand Rapids is only 727 mi, 13 hours drive
01:01 VtGuy from me
01:01 tonsofpcs cutting through canada?
01:02 VtGuy ya lol thats not a big issue for me
01:02 tonsofpcs ya, it's 12 for me, +- 10 min going north/south of erie
01:02 astro73|alice WRITE ALL THE PAPERS!
01:03 tonsofpcs (binghamton ny area)
01:03 astro73|alice (none of them involve timezones)
01:04 VtGuy staying in a us route would add 2 hours and 150 miles
01:05 tonsofpcs i blame lake champlain and adirondack park
01:05 VtGuy ?
01:05 tonsofpcs for adding your 2h
01:06 VtGuy I cross the top of NY so Id miss all of that
01:06 tonsofpcs right
01:08 astro73|alice wannabe1987: how's jqm?
01:08 VtGuy I have drove to and back from Chicago
01:08 wannabe1987 anxious, so we didn't hnag out
01:09 tonsofpcs i drove to the lab last summer
01:09 astro73|alice wannabe1987: awwww i'm soryy
01:09 wannabe1987 she's having sensory processing issues too :/  going to dr for med chg tomorrow
01:10 astro73|alice meep
01:10 wannabe1987 mhm
01:10 astro73|alice maybe we could hang out when i'm done. i don't want to get home until late
01:11 Hackbat My brethern
01:11 VtGuy well I have to be going have a good night every one
01:11 wannabe1987 well we were going to go bowling at fairlanes but idk whats going on now
01:11 Hackbat I have learned much in this past half hour
01:12 Hackbat the greatest of which is WHY you can't peel an orange with an apple corer/peeler
01:12 VtGuy left #thegeekgroup
01:12 wannabe1987 ...
01:12 wannabe1987 tell me why
01:12 Hackbat it squishes
01:13 astro73|alice BotSteve: tell BatSteve that we once again need a QDB.
01:13 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
01:13 Hackbat the pegs tear the flesh when they get to the peeler cause they can't stand the force
01:13 pegasus ding
01:15 Hackbat I then ate the runied oarnge like a feral animal
01:16 wannabe1987 nom
01:16 wannabe1987 tell angy :P
01:23 MysticalDork joined #thegeekgroup
01:23 MysticalDork 'sup?
01:24 wannabe1987 hi dork
01:24 wannabe1987 :P
01:25 MysticalDork not just any dork. I am a MYSTICAL DORK!
01:25 astro73|alice uh-hu
01:25 MysticalDork lol
01:25 wannabe1987 twilight sparkles?
01:25 MysticalDork thrilling viseo on the livestream.
01:25 astro73|alice lightning staff?
01:26 MysticalDork tesla cannon, +550 energy damage.
01:26 wannabe1987 MysticalDork:  i know....
01:27 MysticalDork OMFG a person walked through the MDH!
01:27 astro73|alice oh.
01:27 wannabe1987 cpro
01:27 astro73|alice i bet thumper would take care of that nicely
01:28 MysticalDork lol
01:29 MysticalDork im still loling about gibroni's rage in teh last cblog.
01:29 MysticalDork im amazed my comment made it to top.
01:30 MysticalDork im snnvxnr on YT btw.
01:30 MysticalDork ok... shutting up now.
01:31 astro73|alice it's ok, conversation dies sometimes
01:31 astro73|alice wannabe1987: what are you doing thu?
01:31 wannabe1987 thursday?
01:31 wannabe1987 working, hopefully
01:31 astro73|alice yes
01:31 astro73|alice ok
01:31 MysticalDork YAY WORK!
01:31 wannabe1987 no
01:31 wannabe1987 not yay work
01:32 MysticalDork lol jk
01:32 MysticalDork I meant: YAY BREAKING SHIT!
01:32 wannabe1987 but thats not my day job....
01:32 MysticalDork :(
01:33 astro73|alice TGG is nobody's day job
01:33 wannabe1987 day job = working with old people in a nursing home
01:33 MysticalDork nor is it mine... but i do it anyway.
01:33 wannabe1987 except boden...
01:33 astro73|alice i don't think that's really a day job
01:33 astro73|alice more of a life style
01:33 wannabe1987 eh
01:33 wannabe1987 i dunno
01:33 wannabe1987 lol
01:33 MysticalDork more like an all-time job.
01:34 MysticalDork still LOL at cory's wimpyness.
01:35 wannabe1987 lol
01:37 eadthem hes more worryed about breaking a nale than the girls
01:38 wannabe1987 nail*
01:38 wannabe1987 and my nails are short, can't be broken easily
01:38 wannabe1987 :P
01:38 astro73|alice the girls of TGG tend to be pretty tough
01:38 wannabe1987 see: moose
01:39 astro73|alice or vicky
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01:40 * Experimentonomen throws chocolate pebbles at Cprossu
01:40 tonsofpcs ok, /me took some dayquil
01:40 wannabe1987 HI SASHI!
01:42 wannabe1987 lol nice tonsofpcs
01:42 tonsofpcs eh
01:42 tonsofpcs we'll find out
01:43 wannabe1987 ok
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01:44 Monkeh|Lap I thought Dave and Batman were paid employees?
01:45 Experimentonomen as far as i know, nobody at the lab are paid employees
01:45 tonsofpcs it's been 5 years since i had nyquil and i've taken some kind of drug 6 times since...
01:45 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: then how do they live?
01:45 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Uh, well I know Boden's hired people to operate Stomper..
01:46 Experimentonomen i though TGG was all about hanging out having fun
01:46 Monkeh|Lap I thought Dave, Batman, Gibroni, Liz, Cory, and co were paid?
01:46 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Well, it is, but how on earth do you expect them to build and operate a facility like that with volunteers? It needs 24/7 staffing.
01:47 IsopropylAlcohol hey all
01:47 Monkeh|Lap Yes, they have lots of volunteers, but you have to have people who can be there every day
01:47 Experimentonomen i thought it was just the donations and donations alone that pays for the building and everything
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Donations don't pay for Boden.
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Dave is there every day. Batman too (pretty much). Moose is always there. Cory, Gibroni, Liz..
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Somehow they have to pay for the building, their own homes, transport..
01:48 Experimentonomen i would too if i lived in MI
01:49 Monkeh|Lap You'd have to get them to pay for you to live, then.
01:49 Monkeh|Lap Which makes it.. oh yeah, a paid job.
01:52 Experimentonomen though i guess that makes sense that chris told me "just show up with gloves, steel toe boots and be ready to do stuff"
01:53 wannabe1987 hi IsopropylAlcohol aka sashi
01:53 Monkeh|Lap I'd love to move over to MI permanently but I'd need to find work
01:54 Monkeh|Lap And I imagine paid work at the lab is hard to land.
01:54 wannabe1987 dependfs
01:55 Monkeh|Lap Well I bring an extremely wide range of skills, the ability to learn new ones rapidly, enthusiasm, and an awesome accent.
01:55 wannabe1987 <3 british accents
01:56 Monkeh|Lap See, that's my secret
01:56 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: last i checked, the lab didn't pay anyone
01:56 wannabe1987 wrong
01:56 wannabe1987 it pays a few people
01:56 wannabe1987 dunno who tbh tho
01:56 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: So.. how the hell do Dave, Batman, Moose, Cory, Gibroni, and Liz live?
01:56 astro73|alice living expenses?
01:56 Experimentonomen my accent sucks. nobopdy c an understand a word i say
01:57 wannabe1987 no, your MIC sucked
01:57 Monkeh|Lap I know Boden gets a certain amount of money from a private benefactor (which doesn't cover his living expenses as such as the house is owned under TGG resources I believe)
01:57 Monkeh|Lap I don't know about the rest of the staff
01:57 Experimentonomen no wannabe1987, that was actually my voice
01:58 Monkeh|Lap (note key word: staff. ynos, steve, bill, joe.. volunteers)
01:58 wannabe1987 no, i couldn't HEAR you aka your MIC
01:58 astro73|alice aren't they supposed to publish a financial report?
01:58 astro73|alice as a non-profit
01:58 Monkeh|Lap But I would assume they get paid (possibly <minimum wage via internships for some of them)
01:58 tonsofpcs probably
01:58 wannabe1987 so
01:58 wannabe1987 how good is a "leatherman surge"
01:58 wannabe1987 ?
01:59 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: depends what for
01:59 Monkeh|Lap It's a Leatherman
01:59 wannabe1987 ik
01:59 astro73|alice they're good, i think i have one
01:59 wannabe1987 its sitting here
01:59 tonsofpcs all the leatherman are good, but they have purposes
01:59 astro73|alice although some people will swear by other brands
01:59 tonsofpcs aurge is screw + ply w/ some cut iirc
02:00 tonsofpcs i want one of the compound geared gerbers.
02:00 Experimentonomen wannabe1987: http://soundcloud.com/experimentonomen/lafetampsoundtestwithmic <-- this was recorded with the same mic that you heard me through on teamspeak
02:00 BotSteve Title: Lafetampsoundtestwithmic by Experimentonomen on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
02:01 wannabe1987 can't hear here
02:01 wannabe1987 sry
02:01 lwq_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
02:01 tonsofpcs i dont see you on ts
02:02 Experimentonomen i never bothered to reinstall ts after the lappycrash
02:02 astro73|alice lapocalypse?
02:03 JustoStyle joined #thegeekgroup
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02:06 wannabe1987 hi jess
02:06 Experimentonomen g'morning jess
02:06 KawaiiJess Ohai
02:06 MysticalDork whats this about compound gerbers? wut?
02:06 KawaiiJess I's sad panda
02:07 astro73|alice has the karmel dancen left your life?
02:07 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Yep, they pay people.
02:07 wannabe1987 why's you a sad panda?
02:07 KawaiiJess I forgot passthepopcorn uses a ratio system and I downloaded enough to push my ratio down to .4 and now I can't download until I hit .6, which is 35GB from now
02:07 astro73|alice gj
02:08 KawaiiJess And PTP has a high seed to peer ratio so I'm kinda boned for a few months
02:08 tonsofpcs MysticalDork: there's gearing for the pliers, not 1:1
02:08 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: According to the 990EZ filed for 2009, $38,540 went out for 'saleries, other compensation, and employee benefits'
02:09 tonsofpcs KawaiiJess: unless someone explicitly dls from you
02:09 KawaiiJess No, my account is forbidden
02:09 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: that would be their k-zoo days, isn't it?
02:09 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: that's quite old
02:09 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Yep.
02:09 HighMan Night All :P
02:09 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's the latest I could easily find.
02:09 tonsofpcs KawaiiJess: you cant seed?
02:09 HighMan Who's torrenting? xD
02:09 KawaiiJess Oh, sorry yes I can seed
02:10 KawaiiJess I just can't download and I can't buy upload to get higher ratio
02:10 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: too many seeds and a lot data required
02:10 Monkeh|Lap Go ahead and request the 2011 form, they have to provide it for you (or you can request it from the IRS directly)
02:10 MysticalDork how that work? the pliers i mean.
02:10 KawaiiJess It's frustrating
02:10 tonsofpcs MysticalDork: awesomely
02:10 MysticalDork v. helpful.
02:10 HighMan Are bigger number of seeds always better/
02:10 HighMan Big seeds, little leechers
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Haha
02:11 tonsofpcs HighMan: for the dler getting content, yes
02:11 MysticalDork i got big seeds.
02:11 HighMan Just wondering...
02:11 Monkeh|Lap 'Other assets (describe)'
02:11 HighMan Hi MysticalDork ...
02:11 MysticalDork lol
02:11 tonsofpcs HighMan: for ratio system, no
02:11 Monkeh|Lap 'computers, equipment, machines, robots'
02:11 Monkeh|Lap :D
02:11 astro73|alice SCIENCE.
02:11 * HighMan Doesn't torrent enough to even know.
02:11 astro73|alice what do you mean "science isn't an asset"?
02:11 * Experimentonomen looks at the Mystical Dork
02:11 MysticalDork i got a gerber MP600 w/carbide inserts. awesomeness.
02:12 tonsofpcs we're going to try science
02:12 wannabe1987 o.O
02:12 wannabe1987 don't get hurt!
02:12 HighMan If anyone needs demonoid invites. I got them, so far uploaded 3.15, down 42.15 ration .07
02:12 wannabe1987 apparently my ratio there is fine....which is weird
02:13 NeWtoz I hope no one wants a demonoid invite
02:13 HighMan Well send me a pm request for one... I gots to sleep!
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Hmm, okay, on that form the 38k was for Boden and Moose.
02:13 astro73|alice ohgod, i hate the demonoid files in all the torrents
02:13 Monkeh|Lap 'expense account'. I'm.. thinking that was used to fund property.
02:13 HighMan astro73|alice It's like 1-2 bytes..
02:13 lwq_laptop GHOST RECON
02:13 lwq_laptop yup i love this game
02:13 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: <20k for the 2 of them to live, given that TGG is their full time job
02:14 astro73|alice *20k each
02:14 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Yeah.
02:14 * lwq_laptop goes away to play a game
02:14 Monkeh|Lap I think that's just used to fund the geekhouse.
02:14 HighMan lwq_laptop If you are talking about what I think you are, my bro got that disk for like 10 bucks lol
02:14 Monkeh|Lap I know Boden gets a small amount privately from a donor.
02:14 astro73|alice don't forget tesla coils and robotic energy
02:15 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GggY4TEYbk&amp;feature=related
02:15 BotSteve Title: HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA on 5 hours FULL - YouTube
02:15 astro73|alice HighMan: shut up
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02:16 astro73|alice onesizefitsall: i disbelieve
02:16 tonsofpcs ok, ignore back on
02:16 astro73|alice i know people that can't both simultaneously fit :)
02:16 Experimentonomen astro73|alice, prolly another troll like that hightechlab kid
02:16 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: you here?
02:16 masterofmonks I am.
02:16 astro73|alice Experimentonomen: i've seen him before, actually
02:17 wannabe1987 who, highman?  or hightechlab?
02:17 tonsofpcs onesizefitsall
02:17 astro73|alice onesizefitsall
02:18 astro73|alice HighMan is on ignore
02:18 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: heh, have you seen his power supply?
02:18 wannabe1987 o
02:18 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: http://i.imgur.com/UFepv.jpg
02:18 astro73|alice nope. should i care?
02:19 astro73|alice oh, i think i might have seen something like that
02:19 Monkeh|Lap I'll leave you with that horrific sight and get some sleep
02:20 wannabe1987 night banana
02:20 onesizefitsall Disbelieve what?
02:20 tonsofpcs lol
02:20 astro73|alice onesizefitsall: one size doesn't fit all
02:20 wannabe1987 lol no it doesn't
02:20 onesizefitsall With enough force, it does
02:20 wannabe1987 nope
02:20 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: They'll have you believe two are good enough when it comes to gloves.
02:20 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: 'small' and 'extra large'
02:20 astro73|alice oh god, yes
02:21 astro73|alice "fits like a glove" has no meaning any more
02:21 Monkeh|Lap Sure it does
02:21 Monkeh|Lap Randomly.
02:21 * Monkeh|Lap closes lid
02:21 Experimentonomen latex gloves always fit, as they stretch :P
02:22 astro73|alice some fit better than others
02:22 onesizefitsall Yeah, but after a while your hhand feels like it`s been inside a party baloon
02:22 Experimentonomen hence one size fit all
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02:22 tonsofpcs bats!
02:23 BatSteve there's a petition?
02:23 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:23 BotSteve At 01:13Z, Astronouth7303 asked me to tell batsteve that we once again need a QDB.
02:23 tonsofpcs ?
02:24 tonsofpcs politician.
02:24 wannabe1987 hi bats!
02:25 tonsofpcs bats for governor!
02:25 wannabe1987 sure!
02:25 * Experimentonomen yawns so hard that he implodes
02:26 SparkyProjects BatSteve, several years ago they said that autopilot would be so good that instead of 3 in the cockpit, there would be just a pilot and a dog
02:26 SparkyProjects The pilot would be there to feed the dog
02:26 SparkyProjects The dog would be there to bite the pilot if he touched anything
02:26 BatSteve Monkeh|Lap: were you talking finances a short while ago?
02:26 astro73|alice that's pretty hard
02:26 tonsofpcs yes
02:26 astro73|alice BatSteve: he was, followed by sleeping
02:27 BatSteve aw
02:27 BatSteve darn.
02:27 BatSteve well then, on to QDB 2: The Revenge
02:27 tonsofpcs he wasbt the only one'
02:28 Experimentonomen *yawn* i should prolly goto bed, its half past 4 in the morning :/
02:28 astro73|alice dude! sleep!
02:29 astro73|alice don't you have work or school in a few hours?
02:29 Experimentonomen no
02:29 astro73|alice oh
02:30 Experimentonomen ok im goin to bed
02:30 Experimentonomen g'mornin all
02:30 wannabe1987 night
02:30 tonsofpcs so, i have minimal voice... should i go to work in the am if i still dont or will that bother people?
02:32 egrsteve morning
02:32 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
02:32 tonsofpcs hi
02:33 tonsofpcs not morning
02:33 wannabe1987 don't go to work?
02:33 wannabe1987 go to dr?
02:33 * BatSteve does not understand egrsteve driving tgg|wannabe crazy
02:33 wannabe1987 inside joke
02:34 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: it's a cold, dr will just tell me to rest inside and i've been having allergy issuesnso i want to minimize my outdoor exposure
02:34 wannabe1987 dont go outside
02:40 astro73|alice guys, why would microsoft continue investing money into internet exploder?
02:41 onesizefitsall Corporate world
02:41 onesizefitsall they STILL use that crap
02:41 SparkyProjects So you can download firefox :P
02:41 wannabe1987 lol
02:41 onesizefitsall Because it`s easy to manage via GPOs and what not
02:41 onesizefitsall That`s the excuses I heard
02:42 SparkyProjects Same reason why mozilla invests in firefox, and google invests in chrome, etc, to give everyone a choice
02:43 SparkyProjects I actually run IE and chrome at the same time
02:43 SparkyProjects That way i have 2 identities
02:44 astro73|alice mozilla invests in firefox because that's their job
02:44 BatSteve SparkyProjects: are they unique enough that they can't both be uniquely identified?  https://panopticlick.eff.org/
02:44 BotSteve Title: Panopticlick
02:44 astro73|alice they were formed to make a browser
02:44 astro73|alice it's their purpose in life
02:45 astro73|alice google invests in chrome because better browser -> better internet -> more browsing -> more ads -> more revenue
02:45 SparkyProjects I like things simple
02:45 SparkyProjects Baically i am SparkyProjects on chrome, so i have my email, YT, G+ and TGG open
02:45 SparkyProjects And i'm a GMOD on a forum support forum with a different id
02:46 astro73|alice i'm going to head home and crash
02:46 astro73|alice g'night world
02:46 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe1987
02:46 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe1987 0.09 hours ago at 2012-03-26 02:41:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:46:38 UTC
02:46 wannabe1987 night astro
02:46 wannabe1987 take care
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02:49 lwq_laptop hi curtis
02:50 azop hi
02:51 wannabe1987 hi
02:59 wannabe1987 .cookie BatSteve
02:59 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a black-and-white cookie!
03:00 BatSteve thanks!
03:01 wannabe1987 you're welcome
03:01 wannabe1987 you were too quiet :P
03:04 ajprog_laptop hi azop
03:04 azop hai
03:08 NeWtoz oh joy, my dad's computer's seagate harddrive is one of those ones that have the firmware bug
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03:09 NeWtoz this is an issue that happened with seagates about 2 years ago, but this particular hdd sat in a box for 1.5 years
03:09 NeWtoz so I'm late to the party
03:10 NeWtoz so I guess I get to do some hackery
03:12 vtguy would be nice if the cameras switched one to another on auto afterhours
03:29 epictang0 *yawn*
03:30 * epictang0 needs a good movie...
03:30 wannabe1987 dr who
03:30 epictang0 already saw em all
03:30 wannabe1987 its a tv sho
03:30 wannabe1987 w
03:30 wannabe1987 so?  rewatch
03:30 epictang0 i know
03:30 epictang0 i have all the seasons...lol
03:30 wannabe1987 we were earlier....until zozo turned them off
03:30 wannabe1987 from the 60s on?
03:30 epictang0 yep
03:30 wannabe1987 nice
03:30 wannabe1987 i haven't watched back that far
03:38 wannabe1987 and we're off
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03:58 lwq_laptop damnit -.-
04:01 NeWtoz who needs a movie when you can have fun learning about creating a rs232-to-ttl adapter, and creating a raid 1
04:03 epictang0 because that is stuff I already know...
04:04 NeWtoz s/creating/using
04:05 NeWtoz but on topic: I'm so far behind on movies
04:05 * lwq_laptop pokes masterofmonks
04:05 IsopropylAlcohol cprossu you on?
04:06 lwq_laptop .seen masterofmonks
04:06 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw masterofmonks 6.15 hours ago at 2012-03-25 21:56:59 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 04:06:09 UTC
04:06 lwq_laptop astro73|alice: you on?
04:06 astro73|alice i suppose
04:07 astro73|alice i'm pretty worn out, though
04:07 IsopropylAlcohol botsteve tell cprossu to restart his gmod server and give sashi teamviewer access so he can restart it when you're not available
04:07 IsopropylAlcohol .tell
04:07 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
04:07 IsopropylAlcohol arrg
04:07 IsopropylAlcohol botsteve: tell cprossu to restart his gmod server and give sashi teamviewer access so he can restart it when you're not available
04:07 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
04:07 IsopropylAlcohol there we go
04:15 ajprog_laptop IsopropylAlcohol: you are using Cprossu and not zozo?
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04:22 lwq_laptop SEROSTER
04:22 * lwq_laptop glomps seroster
04:23 Seroster Hitharr. Sup?
04:28 Seroster God damn daylight savings. WHAT TIME IS IT?!
04:45 Hackbat I would be catholic if they used magnets as prayer beads
05:05 lwq_laptop oh lord are we idiots XD
05:06 lwq_laptop i found the old legal disclaimer we made for the cb
05:06 lwq_laptop hey seroster and hackbat remember that :P
05:07 Hackbat si
05:08 lwq_laptop and btw hackbat, that can be made possible
05:16 lwq_laptop Johnny was a chemist’s son but Johnny is no more for what he thought was H2O was H2SO4!
05:25 NeWtoz oh nice, new mythbusters
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05:44 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
05:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 23.09 hours ago at 2012-03-25 06:38:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:44:08 UTC
05:45 Seroster Aye I remember lwq_laptop, and much of it was used.
05:46 * wannabe1987 has a horrific headache :/
05:49 * lwq_laptop hugs wannabe and gives her tylonol
05:49 Seroster You must be pregnantl
05:49 Seroster Anyway. I gotta go. Cya folks.
05:50 lwq_laptop lol later
05:50 wannabe1987 ...
05:50 wannabe1987 not pregnant
05:51 Seroster You're in labour?
05:51 Seroster -u
05:51 * lwq_laptop puts away the ballons and cake, awe we were going to have a party :/
05:51 wannabe1987 ...
05:52 wannabe1987 but i has pie!
05:52 wannabe1987 and real food!
05:52 lwq_laptop i has pie gum :P
05:54 wannabe1987 ...?  extra brand?
05:54 wannabe1987 mines pumpkin pie....
05:54 wannabe1987 and hamburger helper
05:56 lwq_laptop yes
05:57 lwq_laptop i has apple pie :P
06:09 wannabe1987 the pumpkin pie is in the fridge
06:09 wannabe1987 i'm upstiars:D
06:10 Gaxnys Ugh, off to school now.
06:10 wannabe1987 learn something!
06:10 Gaxnys I probably will. x)
06:10 Gaxnys Well, it isn't all too bad. Two lessons today. Physics and Chemistry. :)
06:17 lwq_laptop i like science
06:18 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe1987
06:18 wannabe1987 busy what?
06:19 lwq_laptop oh ok, pm :P
06:19 wannabe1987 i saw
06:19 wannabe1987 i dont have an answer
06:19 lwq_laptop oh ok
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06:43 wannabe1987 lwq_laptop: why do you need 90?
06:44 lwq_laptop jazz band trip
06:44 lwq_laptop well deposit for the room
06:44 wannabe1987 :/
06:45 wannabe1987 gonna lay down now
06:45 * wannabe1987 's headache is worse
06:45 lwq_laptop im going to bed
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07:00 * Hackbat does the cabbagpatch
07:00 Hackbat Go jeri, it's your birthday. :3
07:00 Hackbat I fixed my XBMC problem
07:00 Cprossu messages anyone??
07:00 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
07:00 BotSteve At 04:07Z, IsopropylAlcohol asked me to tell cprossu to restart his gmod server and give sashi teamviewer access so he can restart it when you're not available
07:01 Cprossu not a bad idea
07:03 tonsofpcs meh
07:03 Hackbat Cprossu, whatcha running that on?
07:03 lwq_laptop wow, late night people
07:03 tonsofpcs Cprossu: if bored, familiarize w/stereotool
07:04 tonsofpcs can't sleep, clowns will eat me
07:04 lwq_laptop fuck the clowns, they can eat me in the morning
07:04 tonsofpcs hey now
07:05 * lwq_laptop passes out
07:05 lwq_laptop what?!?! i will kill clowns
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07:06 lwq_laptop night people
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07:10 Hackbat I feel no sorrow for the people in the hills have eyes
07:10 Hackbat they swerved around a fucking bunny
07:17 Cprossu YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
07:17 Electricguy o rly?
07:17 Cprossu my cell phone is nearly back to normal
07:17 Cprossu after weathering a rainstorm, being dropped and run over by a bicycle, and lasting the time to get back to the lab
07:18 Cprossu where I tore it apart and rebuilt it
07:18 Cprossu the keypad is finally working properly again (eink keyboard)
07:19 Electricguy hehe oki
07:20 Cprossu not many people can say their phone survived being run over by a bicycle, drenched in rainwater while still working so I could get instructions back to the lab
07:21 Electricguy my simenes M65 survived such stuff XD
07:21 Cprossu this is a lowly Samsung Alias 2
07:21 Electricguy plus being run over by a car and dropped in the tarmac when i can biking really fast.. it didn't even tunr itself off :P
07:22 Cprossu as a joke I drop it from 4-5ft
07:22 Cprossu ontoo cpncrete
07:22 Cprossu *onto concrete
07:22 Cprossu usually the back stays on
07:22 Cprossu so does the phone
07:22 Electricguy lol
07:23 Cprossu once in a geat while the back flies off but the batt stays in
07:23 Cprossu I showed this to a verizon rep who shit bricks.
07:23 Cprossu he was trying to get me to buy a 'tough phone' seeing the dents/scratches on my phone
07:23 Electricguy :P
07:24 Cprossu I said "I already have a toughphone"
07:24 Cprossu *DROP!*
07:24 Cprossu bounced twice off the concrete
07:24 Cprossu no cracked screen still on.
07:25 Cprossu I really couldn't ask it to do any better
07:25 Electricguy i want a sony ericcson experia active
07:25 Electricguy pretty tuought stuff XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92CvRflk18
07:25 BotSteve Title: Xperia Active CrAsh Test! INCREDIBLE, AMAZING!!! - YouTube
07:25 Electricguy tough*
07:26 Cprossu http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/samsung/samsung-alias-2/samsung-alias-2-combo.jpg
07:26 Cprossu ^ doesn't look tough does it? :D
07:27 Hackbat ...
07:27 Hackbat I have a dirty mind
07:27 Cprossu pretty cool phone though, no?
07:29 Hackbat didn't even look
07:29 Hackbat just misread handset as...well you know
07:30 Cprossu lol
07:30 Cprossu well look, it looks like a basic flipphone =P
07:30 Hackbat oooooooooooooooooh
07:30 Hackbat that
07:31 Hackbat I have one
07:31 Hackbat my sister used to have it
07:31 Hackbat she works in a junk yard
07:31 Hackbat and it still runs
07:31 Cprossu amazingly tough for some reason
07:31 Hackbat the screen is fucking smashed and it works
07:31 Cprossu hehehehe
07:31 Hackbat she has mud in it
07:31 Hackbat it works
07:32 Hackbat the plastic is dented in at one point
07:32 Cprossu I found out that the suround part around the small screen is metal
07:33 Hackbat is it?
07:33 Hackbat that explains the dent
07:33 Cprossu because the leatherman's and keys in my pocket scratched the fuck outa it lol
07:33 Hackbat I see it now
07:33 Cprossu hehehhehehe
07:33 Hackbat well she dented the damn thing
07:33 Hackbat I found a hardware bug
07:34 Cprossu I found several
07:34 Cprossu if you flip the screen the right way it won't switch over
07:34 Hackbat yep
07:34 Hackbat looks kind cool
07:34 Cprossu I found out when I took it apart that a neodynium magnet actually does the switch
07:34 Hackbat relay?
07:34 Cprossu it's in the screen on the left side in the middle
07:34 Hackbat *reed
07:35 Cprossu if it's there it's in the keypad
07:35 Cprossu sadlyy
07:35 Cprossu the keypad is plastic welded in
07:35 Cprossu the way they did it is that little suround piece
07:35 Hackbat the e ink thing is pretty cool
07:35 Cprossu goes over the keypad
07:35 Cprossu and is sonic welded underneath
07:36 Cprossu yeah I love the eink keypad
07:36 Cprossu yeah I love the eink keypad
07:36 Cprossu lol
07:36 Cprossu had to say that 2x
07:36 Hackbat I'm autopsying it once I get a new one
07:36 Cprossu then you need to know this
07:36 Cprossu the back of the phone
07:36 Hackbat hmm?
07:36 Cprossu where there is a verizon logo
07:37 Cprossu that whole thing is a sticky panel
07:37 Cprossu 3 screws beneath it
07:37 Cprossu (also an external antenna jack rofl)
07:37 Hackbat yep
07:37 Hackbat it has two
07:37 Hackbat oddly
07:37 Hackbat what of it?
07:38 Cprossu just letting you know it's there
07:38 Hackbat she got mud there too...
07:38 Cprossu becauseI tore mine way down
07:38 Cprossu all the way
07:38 Cprossu minus the keypad
07:38 Cprossu remove the plastic surround on the keypad and I bet it lifts straight up
07:38 Cprossu btw I think the keypad 'seperator' is metal too
07:39 Cprossu not entirely sure though
07:39 Hackbat I gotta pick a new phone
07:39 Cprossu I don't want to pay for a smartphone
07:40 Cprossu which is why I got a kindle keyboard 3g
07:40 Cprossu and hacked the living crap outa it
07:40 Hackbat I'm just geeting a basic phone
07:40 Hackbat one with a micro usb jack
07:40 Cprossu I don't think any 'basic' phones even compare to this though
07:40 Cprossu I looked
07:40 Hackbat so I don't have to ever use a special charger plug ever again
07:40 Cprossu lol I know what you mean
07:41 Cprossu whenever I see that charger at a goodwill I pick one up
07:41 Hackbat verizon has a few touch screen ones I'm looking at
07:41 Cprossu btw my battery life seems to have gone in the toilet since taking on michigan rain
07:42 Cprossu only getting a day outa the batt instead of the week I am used to
07:43 Cprossu yet it never stopped making calls or working, rofl.
07:43 Cprossu well I am out
07:43 Cprossu lates
07:50 tonsofpcs night
08:08 Electricguy this cat is a future plumber http://www.varion.se/sushi/kul3.jpg
08:18 Electricguy LULZ! XD http://cdn.humorswitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Wattislove.jpg
08:40 tonsofpcs ...
08:42 * Thermoelectric is waiting for a F@H driver to come out for the GTX 680's, so someone does a PPD comparison for them...
09:05 Electricguy dafuq!? my LackRack pic album already got 293 views...
09:29 HighMan Where can silicon be extracted from....
09:30 Electricguy here http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&amp;_nkw=silicon+wafer&amp;_sacat=See-All-Categories
09:30 BotSteve Title: silicon wafer | eBay
09:30 Electricguy what do you need silicon for?
09:31 HighMan I'm working on a project.
09:31 HighMan Well, research no silicon needed j
09:32 HighMan I'm building a company and I"m researching New Mexico as a site. I found copper mines, just need to see how far away silicon is...
09:32 Electricguy well. you can't do shit with a piece of silicon wafer at home if you don't have some expensive equipment
09:32 HighMan XD
09:33 HighMan Dumb question... Silicon Valley has Silicon Mines?
09:34 Thermoelectric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_znRopGtbE
09:34 BotSteve Title: Homebrew NMOS Transistor Step by Step - So Easy Even Jeri Can Do It - YouTube
09:34 Electricguy of course you CAN do it. but you still ned expensive equipment and a lot of knowledge :)
09:34 Electricguy need*
09:35 * HighMan Drops a stack. Whoops.
09:35 Thermoelectric Also needs hydrofluoric acid... Lots of fun.
09:35 HighMan ;D
09:35 HighMan *:D
09:35 Electricguy I like my coffee how I like my women... ground up and in the freezer
09:36 HighMan ...
09:37 HighMan wtf
09:37 HighMan http://www.infomine.com/ChartsAndData/ChartBuilder.aspx?g=129312&amp;kwd=freeport&amp;dr=6m
09:37 BotSteve Title: Chart Builder | Charts & DataMine
09:37 HighMan Price measures for what? 1  pound? ...
09:37 Electricguy USD?
09:38 HighMan I know, But what am I buying.
09:38 HighMan 1 Pound of copper? Or what?
09:38 Electricguy i have no fucking idea
09:38 HighMan lol
09:39 HighMan Ah Stocks
09:59 HighMan "Ohana means family, family means nobody gets left behind. Or forgotten."
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10:14 HighMan "This is my family. I found it, all on my own. Is little, and broken, but still good. Ya. Still good."
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11:12 Electricguy lol at the top comment
11:13 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NF2edxy-M
11:13 BotSteve Title: Somebody That I Used to Know - Walk off the Earth (Gotye - Cover) - YouTube
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11:38 Electricguy true shit! http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/532864_415244888502719_264986813528528_1673770_242678124_n.jpg
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12:13 tonsofpcs hi
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12:56 einball hmm
12:57 * einball wants Kaylee from firefly irl. Awesome character :D
12:58 einball I still laught about the "out of gas" episode :D
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13:22 Experimentonomen g'day peepz
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14:01 Seroster How the fuck did minecraft get so popular?
14:07 angy because it's a sandboxy type of game, easy and has nearly all the addictive component in it
14:10 tonsofpcs Seroster: because parents would rather pay money than see their kids
14:10 tonsofpcs same reason as wow
14:17 Cprossu g'day all
14:18 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs / angy / Experimentonomen / einball / anyone else
14:25 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe1987
14:25 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe1987 7.67 hours ago at 2012-03-26 06:45:05 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:25:24 UTC
14:27 lwq_laptop can i go kill someone?
14:27 angy only if you clean afterwards
14:27 angy and morning Cprossu
14:28 lwq_laptop i do not want todo my work
14:29 lwq_laptop Screw it, im not doing it
14:34 tonsofpcs hi
14:34 Electricguy why do toy ask for a JOB on FB when you don't want to do your work!? XD
14:34 tonsofpcs ?
14:34 Electricguy Lee did
14:36 lwq_laptop i like physical laybor, not sitting on a computer doing calculations. And who are you on facebook?
14:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ggr needs to not encode mp3 if they're playing mp3 (really they shouldnt play mp3)
14:37 Cprossu lol
14:37 Cprossu not my dept :)
14:37 Cprossu brb
14:37 tonsofpcs well zozo aint here
14:38 tonsofpcs and he'll need help setting processing
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14:41 Experimentonomen *yawn**yawn**yawn* :/
14:42 lwq_laptop g' morning Experimentonomen
14:43 lwq_laptop -pokes Experimentonomen
14:48 * Experimentonomen beats another game of solitaire
14:48 * lwq_laptop slaps irc
14:49 lwq_laptop i love this class because all i do is screw off in it
14:49 Experimentonomen g'day Cprossu
14:52 * lwq_laptop heads desk
14:53 * Experimentonomen mocks lwq_laptop :P
14:54 astro73|alice this should be interesting. I want to do a vlog-style video on how companies are making money by giving stuff away.
14:55 lwq_laptop fuck you -.-
14:55 lwq_laptop yeah, they like the product and buy twenty more
14:56 lwq_laptop
14:58 lwq_laptop bbl
15:01 egrsteve morning nobody
15:01 Electricguy the marabou starbar is really nommy :P
15:09 egrsteve hello?
15:09 egrsteve fine be that way
15:09 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
15:11 Cprossu hey eg_lappy
15:11 Cprossu * egrsteve
15:11 Cprossu what's cooking?
15:14 * Experimentonomen gets his pizza from the oven
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15:15 Experimentonomen g'day sparky
15:15 SparkyProjects Hi
15:16 lwq_laptop NO TEACHER WAHOO
15:16 Electricguy ...
15:16 Cprossu hey is there an yNos running around here?
15:16 Electricguy you are going tp learn SO MUCH and go SO FAR! =)
15:16 Electricguy to*
15:16 lwq_laptop im kidding we have sat in this classroom for like 10min.
15:17 lwq_laptop we litterally have no teacher
15:21 lwq_laptop this is fun
15:25 tonsofpcs hi
15:33 egrsteve hi Cprossu
15:34 Cprossu hey egrsteve
15:34 wannabe-zz zomg people!
15:35 egrsteve *person
15:36 wannabe-zz no, cpro and you = people
15:36 SparkyProjects wannabe-zz: it's a dream :P
15:36 wannabe-zz apparently
15:36 wannabe-zz now i'm going bye
15:36 egrsteve cpro has been here
15:36 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
15:37 wannabe-zz yes i know he has....
15:39 tonsofpcs <> are people too
15:52 Cprossu rofl
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16:01 Experimentonomen Cprossu, ur gonna hate me
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16:04 * Experimentonomen looks at Cprossu
16:05 Cprossu ok what now?
16:05 Experimentonomen nothing
16:05 Cprossu overclock much?
16:05 Cprossu rage out on your old computer?
16:06 Cprossu rage out on your new computer?
16:06 Experimentonomen ordered 12gb more ram
16:06 * Cprossu is on the edge of his seat
16:06 Cprossu hrmmm fun!
16:06 Cprossu you'll have fun with that too
16:06 Cprossu save up some money for a nicer psu and a nicer CPU :D
16:07 Cprossu at least we got your system working though
16:07 Cprossu or at least you did heh
16:07 Experimentonomen this mobo only allowed for a 10% overclock
16:08 Experimentonomen it was all it had to offer
16:09 Experimentonomen cpu never goes above 42deg C :o
16:11 Experimentonomen cpu fan whirrs along at 1500rpm
16:13 Experimentonomen btw i heard chris's computer took a shit the other day
16:13 Druidic_Rifleman apparently
16:13 Druidic_Rifleman that is supposedly why there are no CB's lately
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16:15 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon miss wannabe
16:16 wannabe1987 hi
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16:19 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon vtguy
16:20 vtguy good afternoon to you too
16:21 vtguy its cold today, had a trace of snow over night
16:21 Experimentonomen urk
16:23 vtguy quiet again today
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16:27 wannabe1987 so far, yes, it is quiet
16:28 vtguy I guess pop in at lunch one should not expect much lol
16:29 wannabe1987 more like the lab opens at noon....
16:29 vtguy ah did not know that
16:29 wannabe1987 :)
16:30 wannabe1987 i'm full of new and informing infomration
16:30 wannabe1987 information*
16:30 wannabe1987 thats what happens when you don't look where you're typing
16:30 vtguy lol i just cant spell half the time
16:30 wannabe1987 nah, i spell pretty well.  i'll even correct spelling on here :P
16:31 vtguy lol
16:32 vtguy bbl
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16:45 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if i can afford a utilikilt...
16:45 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
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16:46 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm200
16:48 Electricguy i have just built a electromechanical oscilloscope! XD
16:48 Druidic_Rifleman i'm tempted to finish my Ninka Shuko claws
16:49 Electricguy lol
16:49 Druidic_Rifleman the issue is when i do... i am gonna wanna ninja something
16:49 Electricguy seems like a very handy thing to have :D
16:49 Druidic_Rifleman TO DEATH!!!!!
16:50 Experimentonomen &
16:50 * Experimentonomen was bored: http://i.imgur.com/5lv98.png
16:50 Druidic_Rifleman LOL thought you we're going to so say thats why your not an admin
16:52 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXOQkvV4CTA
16:52 BotSteve Title: Electromechanical oscilloscope - YouTube
16:52 Electricguy it kind of works :P
16:52 Druidic_Rifleman i am really tempted to make my self a set of home made roman boxing gloves
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman ooooooooooooooooooooooh O.O multi cam kilt....
16:55 Electricguy !? o_O
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman what
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman ... would look Gah Damn Fine in a kilt tank you
16:56 Druidic_Rifleman thank*
16:56 GGR Hey guys- do you have a CRAZY weekend story to share? Haha, call in during Mitchell McCoy Today starting in 6 minutes on The GGR... the number is: 616-414-0844. Tell me it, on-the-air. We'll also have your top tech news stories.... it's all starting in a few minutes on The GGR! Please join me! http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/  ---Mitch
16:56 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman you online now mitch?
16:57 GGR I'll be going on at 1:00 p.m. EST -Mitch
16:58 egrsteve wtf I just saw a 10ft tall cow crusing down the highway
16:59 Druidic_Rifleman ... I think yourwheat has gone bad dude...
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman also wonders if i should call in and tell the story of the weekend i fucked the son of an ira terrorists GF and lived to tell the tail
17:08 GGR Probably not. -Mitch
17:10 TGG-Zozo no one cares druid
17:12 Druidic_Rifleman shhhh
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17:12 Druidic_Rifleman zozo what did you do to the stream?
17:12 TGG-Zozo nothing
17:15 Druidic_Rifleman sure
17:15 Druidic_Rifleman when the steam goes down it's totally zozo'sfault
17:15 Druidic_Rifleman :P
17:15 egrsteve me on the other hand
17:16 egrsteve anyway almost time for my next class
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17:17 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder if i can ipod this....
17:17 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe-afk
17:17 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe1987 0.78 hours ago at 2012-03-26 16:30:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:17:54 UTC
17:18 GGR Just made it into the first break. Join in now! -Mitch
17:21 lwq_laptop hi mitch
17:21 Seroster How can a tiny game like minecraft pull that much cpu?
17:21 BitViper java
17:21 Electricguy Java..
17:21 lwq_laptop lol
17:22 Electricguy it's not a tiny game really
17:22 Seroster Isn't coffe supposed to make you work faster?
17:22 Electricguy it's a fully modern game with a 8 bit texture
17:22 Seroster Let's rename Java to Ruphy.
17:22 Electricguy you can get REALLY high texture quality in minecraft if you want
17:22 Seroster I pulled evrything to zero and decided to take on a mountain...
17:23 BitViper and if you have craploads of ram
17:23 Druidic_Rifleman it's a modern game with 8 bit textures runing java
17:24 BitViper i still say its a modernized 3d version of dig-dug
17:24 Electricguy the part from 1:10 and forward in this vid is epic XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRNKXIuPJTw&amp;feature=my_liked_videos&amp;list=LLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg
17:24 BotSteve Title: Epic Minequest - YouTube
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17:26 Electricguy i need to change the creeper explosion sound to WTF BOOM!!!! :P
17:27 wannabe-afk lol
17:29 wannabe-afk omnis my new best friend...i have food :)
17:29 Electricguy lol :P
17:29 GGR Hi LWQ_Laptop! -Mitch
17:29 Druidic_Rifleman LMAO
17:29 wannabe-afk i  even share!
17:29 Seroster Electricguy, Change it to "OH-OH! *Pop" from lemmings =)
17:29 Electricguy HAHAHA XD
17:29 Druidic_Rifleman LMAO
17:30 Electricguy i LOVE the pop sound from lemmings XD
17:30 Druidic_Rifleman stream is up stream goes down up down up down
17:31 GGR Sorry, rifleman. I'll inform the proper person. -Mitch
17:31 wannabe-afk ...
17:31 Electricguy Watt is love oh baby don't Hertz me, don't Hertz me, no Morse!
17:31 wannabe-afk daves not here, afaik mitch
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17:37 Seroster Electricguy, Yeah, I had the lemmings soundtable on my phone. Great incoming text message sound, "OHNO! *POP*"
17:37 Electricguy lol :P
17:41 GGR What are people having for lunch or breakfast? -Mitch
17:43 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe-afk
17:43 * wannabe-afk is cleaning the break room...whats up?
17:43 Druidic_Rifleman i had left over steak for breakfast
17:43 wannabe-afk mitch - peanut m&ms....you?
17:44 Druidic_Rifleman break room at work?
17:44 lwq_laptop lol
17:44 wannabe-afk no.  the lab
17:44 GGR Wannabe... I just had a couple sandwiches! Nothing to fancy, just a simple packed lunch today! -Mitch
17:45 lwq_laptop mmmm sandwiches
17:45 wannabe-afk i got mine at walgreens.  that and tub butter for my cinnamon swirl  bread.  now if only i had a toaster...
17:45 wannabe-afk quick!  someone make one!
17:45 lwq_laptop thumper?
17:45 GGR It was very good!! haha -Mitch
17:46 lwq_laptop they did a toaster autopsy to :P
17:46 wannabe-afk ...
17:46 wannabe-afk TGG-Zozo, is cpro in there?
17:46 TGG-Zozo nope, chris demanded his presence a bit ago
17:47 lwq_laptop lol demanded
17:47 wannabe-afk ah.  next time he does, send him here please?
17:47 TGG-Zozo yup
17:47 GGR The Captain's Blog airs next on The GGR starting at 2:00 p.m. EST.
17:48 lwq_laptop bbl
17:49 wannabe-afk mmmm moldy sushi!
17:49 TGG-Zozo yum
17:50 TGG-Zozo t//replace 87 49
17:51 wannabe-afk ?
17:54 TGG-Zozo damn macros
17:54 wannabe-afk if ketchup wasn't refridgerated for an unknown number of days, is it still good?
17:54 TGG-Zozo i dunno
17:54 Druidic_Rifleman lol
17:54 BitViper if it trys to get away from you, then probably not
17:55 Druidic_Rifleman ggr you could of said my handle
17:55 Druidic_Rifleman or the short form Druid
17:55 wannabe-afk o bit i'm throwing away  your water/milk....
17:55 BitViper wannabe-afk : LOL its still there ? ewwww
17:55 wannabe-afk yep
17:55 wannabe-afk i think i'm the only one interested in cldeaning tbh
17:56 BitViper i think there's a tv dinner in the freezer too, it should be perfectly good, you or zo are welcome to it
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17:56 Sasha_ 'Sip
17:56 Sasha_ *'Sup
17:56 wannabe-afk what kind, bit?
17:56 wannabe-afk hi Sasha_!
17:56 BitViper would be either turkry or salisbury steak
17:56 wannabe-afk none
17:57 BitViper hrm, i must have eaten it, though i had left one]
17:57 Sasha_ Anyone interested in buying a luminescent iPhone 4 back panel?
17:57 BitViper *thought
17:59 Druidic_Rifleman zozo broke theraidio system
17:59 TGG-Zozo im not touching the damn radio station
18:00 Druidic_Rifleman ggr Whats the issue with the raidio ??? the streams really inconsistant
18:00 Druidic_Rifleman i am joking zozo...
18:00 BitViper wild guess .... tgg bandwith throttling
18:00 Druidic_Rifleman ewww throttling
18:01 BitViper yeah as i understand it the isp (comcrap?) thrttles the outbound
18:01 BitViper i hate the whole idea of throttling, if ya sell me a (for example) 10 meg connection, i dont expect to get throttled to 1m if i try to actually use it
18:02 Druidic_Rifleman ooooooh O.O i can get a kilt with Blue and yellow....
18:02 Druidic_Rifleman My regimental coulours from when i was a cadet
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18:06 wannabe-afk *cough cough* dust!
18:06 BitViper what ? dust ? at tgg ? no way ? LOL
18:06 Gaxnys Five hours later, I'm done with my assignment. Phew.
18:06 BitViper need facemasks in some parts
18:07 wannabe-afk lol
18:07 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm
18:07 BitViper maybe the dust will get better now that stomper is moved
18:07 Druidic_Rifleman botsteve should i get some poutine from my localfryed chicken place?
18:07 BotSteve Definitely
18:07 Druidic_Rifleman should i share it
18:07 Druidic_Rifleman botsteve should i share
18:07 BotSteve Absolutely
18:07 wannabe-afk no,  because i'm in the basement, and so is stomper :P
18:07 Druidic_Rifleman botsteve should are you sure
18:07 BotSteve Oh yeah!
18:08 wannabe-afk there was cement dust on the table people prepare food on....
18:08 Druidic_Rifleman .... some times you give good avice some times not...
18:08 Druidic_Rifleman thanks botsteve
18:08 BitViper ugh
18:08 BotSteve Happy to help, Druidic_Rifleman
18:08 Druidic_Rifleman share poutine... wtf is wrong with that bot
18:09 wannabe-afk lots of things
18:10 wannabe-afk for one, i've never had poutine, so he wants me to try new foods!
18:11 wannabe-tgg why is there a blender down here?
18:12 Druidic_Rifleman k
18:12 BitViper to mix the cement dust up ?
18:12 Druidic_Rifleman maybe when i visit
18:12 Druidic_Rifleman i
18:12 Druidic_Rifleman we can have a poutine party
18:14 * wannabe-tgg throws found camo nerf dart
18:15 * BitViper ducks
18:16 wannabe-tgg ...
18:17 GGR Chris Boden is on The GGR now... -Mitch
18:18 GGR Well, in 60 seconds... my bad.
18:18 GGR ..from The Captain's Blog... he's not live.
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18:23 wannabe-tgg wb druid
18:24 Sasha_ Hmmm… what stocks should I invest in?
18:26 GGR Hey guys, I just taped my promo promoting tomorrow's show. Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to include. I'll be heading out for the day! Have a great day everyone! I
18:26 GGR I'll talk to you tomorrow. -Mitch
18:30 wannabe-tgg .weather kgrr
18:30 BotSteve Clear ☼, 42.8℉ (6℃), 30.40in (1026mb), Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - KGRR 17:53Z
18:32 astro73|alice hello world
18:33 wannabe-tgg hi
18:34 astro73|alice how's the lab?
18:35 wannabe-tgg dirty
18:36 astro73|alice anything particular?
18:36 wannabe-tgg break room
18:36 astro73|alice that should be clean!
18:36 wannabe-tgg i know, right?!
18:36 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/USBm9.png <-- zombies are easily amused :P
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18:38 DruidicSniper "i remember someone saying any thing that smells/tastes like onion is safe to eat but don't try it cause i am not a naturalist and if you die i'ts notmy fault"
18:39 Electricguy ok i have improved the electromechanical oscilloscope! :D
18:39 DruidicSniper MMMM poutine
18:40 DruidicSniper Soooooo good and you guys can't have any
18:41 Electricguy wtf is it? it looks like goat snot, strips and chickhen
18:41 MoxieMike there's a place near me that makes great poutine
18:42 wannabe-tgg the microwave is safe for usage again o.O
18:42 egrsteve hmm, i need a .5nH inductor, I wonder if a straight piece of wire will do
18:42 Electricguy the stomped one? :P
18:42 wannabe-tgg no
18:42 wannabe-tgg the one everyone uses in the break room o.o
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18:43 Katemonster it's snowing again.  -_-
18:43 Electricguy trololol
18:44 wannabe-tgg not here
18:47 wannabe-tgg awwww
18:47 wannabe-tgg i made a hole in my pants
18:47 wannabe-tgg guess i have to fix them tonight :/
18:49 wannabe-tgg and i need to make drip beef here sometime....
18:49 wannabe-tgg ....
18:50 DruidicSniper i should make pizza at the lab
18:50 Electricguy a video of my improved all electromechanical oscilloscope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce6MSrlTugo
18:50 BotSteve Title: Improved electromechanical oscilloscope - YouTube
18:50 wannabe-tgg but see, drip beef is in teh crock pot....
18:50 wannabe-tgg i can let it cook ALL DAY and make people JEALOUS
18:50 wannabe-tgg http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2010/02/drip-beef-two-ways/  the first way
18:50 BotSteve Title: Drip Beef, Two Ways | The Pioneer Woman Cooks | Ree Drummond
18:51 DruidicSniper and you want me to share muh poutine..
18:51 wannabe-tgg and i'd share it with whoevers left at the lab
18:51 wannabe-tgg when its done
18:51 * wannabe-tgg needs a mop bucket brougth down....
18:51 wannabe-tgg it doesn't even have to be filled with water....
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18:53 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects
18:53 Seroster I need a guesstimate now, about how thick of an aluminium wire would you need to carry 1000amps? (one kiloamp)
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18:59 wannabe-tgg "and its my job....to steal....and rob....GRAVES!"
18:59 wannabe-tgg hey GGR, you can't have a nick with spaces in it....you need _'s for spaces :)
18:59 wannabe-tgg hi jess
19:00 KawaiiJess Ohai
19:03 wannabe-tgg look!  its a jess and Katemonster!
19:03 Katemonster no it isn't.  it's your imagination.
19:05 wannabe-tgg ok
19:05 wannabe-tgg hows the snow?
19:07 Katemonster snowish.
19:08 wannabe-tgg yuck
19:09 BitViper wannabe-tgg : the wx forecast here for next tues says that s word
19:10 tonsofpcs snooopw!
19:11 wannabe-tgg shhhh
19:12 tonsofpcs Electricguy: make me one?
19:12 Electricguy a electromechanical scope? :P
19:12 tonsofpcs ya
19:12 Electricguy naah XD
19:13 Electricguy build one yourself! ;P
19:13 tonsofpcs ya
19:13 Electricguy it took me like 30 mins to gather all the parts and put it all together
19:13 Electricguy a thing like that might be a fun demo thing for TGG
19:13 Electricguy to explain the basics of how a o-scope works
19:14 Electricguy i need a slower time scanner though...
19:14 Electricguy thinking like the mechanics from a tape deck
19:14 Electricguy with a faster running motor
19:14 Electricguy and then put the mirror on the flywheel
19:17 tonsofpcs slower time scanner?
19:17 Electricguy yes
19:18 Electricguy that modded computer fan that creates the timeline on my scope :P
19:18 Electricguy it's a bit too fast
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19:19 Electricguy that slow speed it's running at in the vid is pretty much as fst as you want to go
19:22 DruidicSniper wannabe lies she <3's the snow
19:26 wannabe-tgg ....
19:26 wannabe-tgg what?
19:26 wannabe-tgg i'm a *bit* busy mopping
19:29 DruidicSniper <3's = loves
19:29 wannabe-tgg no fucking way
19:30 DruidicSniper shhhhh youlies
19:31 wannabe-tgg i never lie.  i'm an angel
19:31 BitViper wannabe-tgg : just read the drip beef recipies .... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .... i like the 2nd one myself
19:32 DruidicSniper LOL
19:32 TGG-Zozo druid
19:32 DruidicSniper I am innocent
19:32 TGG-Zozo cany update the serve3r theres no recommended build
19:33 TGG-Zozo also after this update ill be shutting down the server
19:33 DruidicSniper whats the most recent version
19:33 DruidicSniper :( i'll miss it
19:33 TGG-Zozo because bukkit will be no more
19:33 DruidicSniper ouch....
19:33 DruidicSniper link?
19:33 BitViper the most recent bukkit rec build is 1.1 something
19:33 BitViper what ?? bukkit no more ?
19:33 TGG-Zozo the bukkit dev team now work for mojang
19:33 DruidicSniper LINK THE DRUID????
19:34 tonsofpcs Electricguy: are you shuttering it at all, rescanning, or just waving the laser 360?
19:34 BitViper ?!?!
19:34 TGG-Zozo you want a link to what druid?
19:34 DruidicSniper won't they continue the server work?
19:34 DruidicSniper where you found that bukkits no more
19:34 Electricguy tonsofpcs, 360 atm. going to make a little housing around the scanner
19:34 TGG-Zozo http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-the-next-chapter.62489/
19:34 BotSteve Title: Bukkit: The Next Chapter | Bukkit Forums
19:34 TGG-Zozo http://www.mojang.com/2012/02/minecraft-team-strengthened/
19:34 BotSteve Title: Minecraft Team Strengthened!
19:34 DruidicSniper i thought they would be Building bukkit into part of the standard program
19:35 tonsofpcs so you'r]e losing a large chunk of time to the 'retrace' around the room
19:35 TGG-Zozo due to licensing issues they cannt put bukkit into MC
19:35 Electricguy yes
19:35 tonsofpcs bukkit?
19:35 TGG-Zozo so they will be making a new mod API
19:36 tonsofpcs oh, minecraft
19:36 tonsofpcs nm
19:36 TGG-Zozo which most likely will destroy any existing plugins out there
19:36 DruidicSniper i see
19:36 DruidicSniper why destroy so much content?
19:36 TGG-Zozo to get paid?
19:36 DruidicSniper one would ecpect that they would wanna make the new API bukkit mod friendly
19:36 DruidicSniper yeah
19:36 tonsofpcs DruidicSniper: teach kids about fleeting/...
19:37 TGG-Zozo i made the switch from HMod > Bukkit not willing to go through all that work to go from bukkit to what ever they call it
19:37 TGG-Zozo even more if no one cares enough to donate to keep the server running
19:38 astro73|alice hopefully, it'll be the last time they destroy mods
19:38 DruidicSniper Hey i was going to once the server updated
19:38 DruidicSniper yeah
19:38 astro73|alice esp since i'm betting it includes a client-side API
19:39 DruidicSniper i'd also consider going to the one cprossu has a hard on for
19:39 TGG-Zozo thats what they claim will happen is a better client side = server mod intergration
19:39 TGG-Zozo but they claimed alot of things
19:39 astro73|alice we'll see, but official API can only be a good thing
19:39 TGG-Zozo so i dont listen to mojang anymore
19:40 astro73|alice and you can always do it the old-fashioned way
19:40 wannabe-tgg o.O  gross will be at the circle next week :D
19:40 wannabe-tgg means we can dance for (technically) free :D
19:40 TGG-Zozo a vanilla server?
19:40 TGG-Zozo have one of those, signed in once to it
19:41 Electricguy speaking of gross... this swedish grocery store got the best name ever! :D http://www.vmo.se/img/25/rep/city_gross_varnamo/city_gross_varnamo.jpg
19:41 astro73|alice mods based on source hacking
19:41 TGG-Zozo the issue i have isnt redoing the whole server for a 10th time
19:41 TGG-Zozo no
19:41 TGG-Zozo no source hacking
19:41 astro73|alice that's what they currently do
19:41 TGG-Zozo to much of a headache to get clients running
19:42 TGG-Zozo my issue will be most devs will stop caring if they have to learn a new api
19:42 TGG-Zozo hence alot less plugins
19:42 astro73|alice new ones will crop up
19:43 astro73|alice any mods that are open source or have a community
19:43 TGG-Zozo which alot of the ones that run my server are not
19:45 astro73|alice i still say that having an official, semi-stable API will be a net gain for mods
19:45 TGG-Zozo im not saying it isnt
19:46 TGG-Zozo im saying that if they change the api lot of devs will not continue
19:46 TGG-Zozo and ill be shutting down
19:47 astro73|alice i'm sure they recognize the importance of mods. i bet that's part of the reason they brought on the bukkit team to begin with
19:47 TGG-Zozo The plan is to build a fresh server API, and then extend it to support client-side modding (in one way or another). We will try to make it easy for bukkit users to convert if they wish to do so, but backwards compatibility is not guaranteed.
19:48 astro73|alice of course not
19:48 astro73|alice we'll see
19:48 TGG-Zozo exactly
19:49 TGG-Zozo but since druid was there since the beginning i wanted to let him know that theres a good chance ill be shutting down
19:49 astro73|alice are your mods that big of deal?
19:49 TGG-Zozo yes
19:49 HighMan Hi all
19:49 TGG-Zozo theres a reason i have 76
19:50 HighMan Is it possible to have a sublimating chemical in it's liquid form?
19:50 astro73|alice and you can't find a single one you could live without?
19:50 TGG-Zozo a few
19:50 TGG-Zozo if anymore than about 10 are removed it changes game play too much
19:51 astro73|alice maybe you could start fresh? new world and such?
19:51 TGG-Zozo nope
19:51 astro73|alice you're stubborn
19:51 TGG-Zozo yup
19:51 TGG-Zozo i told my members since the beginning i wont ever to a map wipe
19:52 astro73|alice wannabe-tgg: you're boyfriend is a stubborn ass. And i mean that literally: He's a mule.
19:52 astro73|alice how many members do you have?
19:52 astro73|alice have you considered discussing it with them?
19:52 wannabe-tgg lol i know
19:52 TGG-Zozo i have 1 constant member
19:52 TGG-Zozo thats druid
19:53 wannabe-tgg ...
19:53 TGG-Zozo the rest come and go
19:53 astro73|alice i suggest discussing it with him/them
19:53 TGG-Zozo thats what i was just doing =P
19:54 TGG-Zozo not to mention ive been thinking about shutting down for awhile now because running that damn thing is a full time job
19:54 astro73|alice i think all signs point to "less mods"
19:55 wannabe-tgg good luck astro
19:55 wannabe-tgg and i found cpro, zozo
19:56 egrsteve was he hiding in dead body storage?
19:56 astro73|alice i've gotten that impression
19:56 TGG-Zozo less mods = not the style of game play i want/ care about
19:57 wannabe-tgg yes, egrsteve
19:59 astro73|alice sounds like you need to compromise somewhere
19:59 wannabe-tgg good luck astro :)
20:00 astro73|alice also, it looks like bukkit will be good for another 6mo
20:00 astro73|alice http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-the-next-chapter.62489/page-9#post-990129
20:00 BotSteve Title: Bukkit: The Next Chapter | Page 9 | Bukkit Forums
20:00 wannabe-tgg have Cprossu put them on his server so you can play there :nods:
20:00 wannabe-tgg its called "pass the buck"
20:01 wannabe-tgg or delegation
20:01 TGG-Zozo the biggest thing is i would rather put my server admin time into something i care about playing myself
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20:05 astro73|alice understandable
20:05 wannabe-tgg hi injektion!
20:05 Seroster injektion!
20:06 * Electricguy is bored! o_O
20:06 Chipguy aww
20:06 injektion hi
20:07 * Chipguy runs away from injektion
20:07 Chipguy ....afraid of needles
20:07 wannabe-tgg he's harmless
20:07 wannabe-tgg he injects things into angy, not Chipguy
20:07 masterofmonks Mostly harmless.
20:08 wannabe-tgg lol
20:08 Chipguy errr rofl
20:08 Chipguy did i get that right ?
20:08 Chipguy injects things into angy
20:08 Chipguy his girlfriend
20:09 masterofmonks angy, is a guy.
20:09 Electricguy *puts on sunglasses
20:09 Electricguy *
20:09 Electricguy (shitty CSI scene)
20:10 injektion Chipguy, I am pretty harmless
20:10 wannabe-tgg lol
20:10 wannabe-tgg anyway
20:11 angy Chipguy, I may or may not be
20:11 wannabe-tgg i'm listening to REPO! genetic opera and they're talking aobut zydrate atm :P
20:11 Chipguy ok hehe
20:11 wannabe-tgg it fits perfecty with the injecting going on here
20:11 Chipguy its not of busyness anyway
20:11 wannabe-tgg hows life, injektion?
20:11 * Chipguy is just a curious guy
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20:18 Experimentonomen *yawn* aight im headin to bed, nite peepz
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20:22 * lwq_laptop is home from jazz
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20:32 * egrsteve is hungry
20:32 * Electricguy feeds egrsteve
20:32 lwq_laptop .skittles
20:32 BotSteve Here you go, lwq_laptop, I got you some lime green skittles!
20:33 lwq_laptop .skittles egrsteve
20:33 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some sour apple skittles!
20:33 * egrsteve steels lees skittles too
20:33 egrsteve *steals
20:33 BitViper those arent skittles, those are boogers
20:33 lwq_laptop :/ botsteve would of share too
20:33 astro73|alice .cake egrsteve
20:33 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you an egg nog cake!
20:35 wannabe-tgg steve.....do you have food at the lab?
20:35 * lwq_laptop hugs wannabe-tgg
20:35 wannabe-tgg daw thanks :)
20:35 wannabe-tgg i'm full of dust tho....fyi
20:36 * egrsteve radiates food
20:36 lwq_laptop i dont care :P
20:36 * lwq_laptop noms on egrsteves foot
20:36 wannabe-tgg ok
20:36 wannabe-tgg steve.....do you have food at the lab?
20:36 egrsteve no
20:37 egrsteve but I do here
20:37 egrsteve I wonder f it is sufficantly radiated
20:37 wannabe-tgg ok.  i was wondering cuz theres unlabeled food in the fridge/freezer
20:37 Electricguy when if the cafe at TGG going to open?
20:37 Electricguy is*
20:37 wannabe-tgg when its up to code....
20:37 wannabe-tgg theres no grill yet....or fridge....
20:37 Electricguy mkay
20:38 Electricguy i was just wondering if there was some sort of schedule
20:38 wannabe-tgg i'm sure there is
20:38 wannabe-tgg i just don't know it
20:38 astro73|alice schedule? you're funny
20:38 Electricguy yes i am
20:38 Electricguy donm'
20:38 Electricguy oops
20:38 Electricguy don't you think?
20:38 wannabe-tgg hahahahaha what a funny guy
20:39 wannabe-tgg btw, Electricguy, i *like* timeline :P
20:39 Electricguy lol
20:39 Electricguy the timeline is totally fucked. lol
20:39 Electricguy i'm glad i haven't got it yet
20:40 egrsteve hmm steak brat
20:40 Electricguy what i do like is this embarassed walrus http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/5/20/9/enhanced-buzz-439-1305899348-0.jpg
20:40 angy .cookie egrsteve
20:40 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a christmas cookie!
20:43 Electricguy i want a optics table...
20:43 egrsteve build one
20:43 Electricguy hmm.. maybe
20:44 Electricguy but it would be nice to get one with optics and everything
20:44 Electricguy so i don't have to build EVERYTHING for it
20:45 egrsteve a piece of well supported 1/4" steel plate should be stable enough
20:45 Electricguy myeah
20:45 Electricguy a damn bitch to drill and tap all the mounting holes for the optics though
20:45 egrsteve and lots of magnet bases
20:45 Electricguy that could work too
20:46 egrsteve something like this http://www.harborfreight.com/multipositional-magnetic-base-with-fine-adjustment-5645.html
20:46 BotSteve Title: Multipositional Magnetic Base with Fine Adjustment
20:46 Electricguy yeah
20:47 Electricguy that's actually pretty cheap
20:47 Electricguy but if you want 20 of them it starts to get a bit sweaty... XD
20:47 egrsteve agreed
20:47 lwq_laptop hmmm cen-tech is a reasonable brand too for cheap and good quality goes
20:47 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe-tgg
20:47 wannabe-tgg i was poked
20:48 wannabe-tgg what if i'm trying to do real work?
20:48 Monkeh Hmm.. A somewhat large (1uF) bypass cap shouldn't be an issue on the input or output of an L7809, right?
20:48 lwq_laptop eh, take a break
20:48 Electricguy DAT POKE.
20:49 egrsteve 1uF is small for a bypass cap
20:49 Electricguy myeah
20:49 Electricguy µ*
20:49 Electricguy ;)
20:49 Monkeh egrsteve: Well I'm going from the datasheet which wants 0.33. :P
20:49 Monkeh Electricguy: Lazy.
20:49 * lwq_laptop is going to bug wannabe-tgg
20:49 egrsteve decent quality it is by no means Mitutoyo
20:49 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe-tgg repeatedly
20:50 egrsteve well a .33 ceramic in parralel with a larger electrolytic is best
20:50 egrsteve although a laarger ceramic won't hurt
20:50 egrsteve it's hard to have too much cpacitance as long as inrush current does not become an issue
20:51 egrsteve so a 1uF should be fine
20:51 Monkeh It's suggesting tantalum and the only values I can get (where I want to get these parts, seeing as I want this to be cheap) are 0.1, 0.22, and 1uF
20:51 egrsteve 1uf should be fine then
20:52 Monkeh Sold, to the cheapest capacitor they sell.
20:52 lwq_laptop i was thinking about getting this to run a small electronics lab, http://www.harborfreight.com/engines-generators/gas-engine-generators/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html
20:52 Monkeh ;D
20:52 BotSteve Title: 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Generator
20:52 Monkeh Why would you want a nasty cheap genny to run an electronics lab?
20:52 egrsteve why use a generator to run a lab?
20:52 lwq_laptop it will run some lights and a soldering iron and maybe an oscilloscope
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20:52 lwq_laptop because i need to take my lab out of the house before i burn my house down
20:53 Electricguy extension cord?
20:53 egrsteve extension cord
20:53 Monkeh .. perhaps you're doing things wrong if you're going to burn the house down
20:53 lwq_laptop i would need a big extention cord
20:53 think Does anybody  know why there hasn't been a captins blog in a while?
20:53 egrsteve get a good 12awg cord it should be plenty for any normal use
20:53 lwq_laptop think: his machine he uses to edit it shit itself
20:53 Electricguy lwq_laptop, still, a LONG extension cord is cheaper than the money you have to put on gas for the genny...
20:54 think oh i see
20:54 lwq_laptop probally
20:54 Monkeh It's cheaper than the damn genny.
20:54 Electricguy yeah
20:54 Monkeh Don't plug anything expensive into a POS like that either
20:55 Electricguy lol no :P
20:55 Monkeh Plug a scope into one of those and Imma come take it away.
20:55 lwq_laptop i did find out though that my rat shack does carry components and stuff. i though they did because it looked like a small store front, i went in it and they have a back to it
20:57 think is normal / generic  cat5 ethernet cable rated for outdoors?
20:57 astro73|alice no
20:57 lwq_laptop no,
20:57 Seroster How far do you need to move power, lee?
20:57 Monkeh Fuck no
20:57 lwq_laptop eh to a little shed in my back yard
20:57 Monkeh Seroster: OVER NINE THOUSAND (millimetres)
20:57 lwq_laptop lol
20:58 Monkeh lwq_laptop: Seriously, why is fire a risk?
20:58 Seroster So in essence like 10yards?
20:58 Seroster Fire won't be a risk with an extension cord moving that far. Problem might be voltage drop.
20:58 Monkeh Seroster: Yeah, he just needs a damn extension cable.
20:58 Monkeh Seroster: No, he wants to move out to the shed because he's worried about setting fire to his house..
20:58 Seroster Do it nice, make a meter deep trench and put some good thick wire into it.
20:58 egrsteve get a good 50 or 100ft 12awg cord and it should not be an issue
20:58 Seroster .c 12awg to mm
20:58 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
20:58 Monkeh Seroster: No, that's a hell of a job to do right
20:59 Seroster But it looks good =)
20:59 Monkeh Seroster: 3.3mm square.
20:59 Monkeh We'd use 4.
20:59 lwq_laptop seroster thats what i was thinking, voltage drop
20:59 egrsteve I doubt voltage drop over 12 awg will be an issue
20:59 Seroster Yeah, 4mm and you'll be fine.
20:59 Monkeh I can calculate that.
20:59 Electricguy speaking of thick wire.. i have to finish my capacitor based mini spotwelder someday...
20:59 egrsteve how much current do you plan on drawing?
20:59 Monkeh Say you want to go 25m.
20:59 Seroster Sure you can. But why? I'm willing to bet his house isn't 110v
21:00 lwq_laptop would i be able to run the extention cord under dirt? like maybe half a foot down
21:00 Seroster egrsteve, I'd guess <16amp
21:00 Seroster lwq_laptop, Regular cord? No.
21:00 lwq_laptop like a nice thick cord
21:00 Monkeh You'll get around 8A down that. You'll be FINE.
21:00 Monkeh Seroster: .. I'm willing to bet it is.
21:00 Monkeh lwq_laptop: No.
21:01 lwq_laptop if i were to, what would i need to put over it to shield it? would cheap pvc work?
21:01 egrsteve at 100ft and 20a you are looking at less than a 8V drop on a 12 awg cord
21:01 Monkeh You would need to use a steel armoured wire
21:01 Monkeh Which requires proper installation. You can't do that.
21:01 egrsteve lee where are you?
21:01 Seroster Go into a hardware store and say "I need 20yards of shielded three conductor wire for underground, awg12 or lower" and he'll pull out a spool of wire for ya.
21:01 lwq_laptop pennsylvania
21:02 Monkeh You have one option for lashing this up: Get an extension reel, take it out when you need it and bring it back in when you don't.
21:02 lwq_laptop my lawn doesnt get treked over alot, a mower once and a while and thats it
21:02 Monkeh Seroster: Then you'll need appropriate fittings and know how to install it and..
21:02 lwq_laptop ugh, i dont want to do that
21:02 egrsteve Monkeh: that would be easest
21:02 Monkeh Seriously. Just take a lead out when you're using it.
21:02 lwq_laptop i might as well run a new line and put my own breaker in
21:02 Seroster But that's no fun, monkeh.
21:02 egrsteve just get a long cord
21:02 Monkeh It is not difficult and will take you approximately 30 seconds longer on the trip out and back in.
21:03 Seroster I repeat, that's no fun ;P
21:03 Monkeh lwq_laptop: That's exactly what you'll have to do if you want to bury it properly.
21:03 Monkeh Seroster: And advising someone of his age to undertake a serious electrical installation is?
21:03 egrsteve no, if he wraps it right he can just through the card to the shed and pick it up at the other end
21:03 Monkeh egrsteve: Err, that's one way, yes.
21:03 Monkeh egrsteve: I use cassette reels. They store much easier.
21:03 lwq_laptop would regular pvc pipe work good for conduit if i put it down a foot deep?
21:04 Monkeh lwq_laptop: No.
21:04 * lwq_laptop heads desk
21:04 Monkeh You know what PVC does to impede a spade being stamped into the ground?
21:04 Seroster Not a lot.
21:04 egrsteve no you need PVC electrical conduit rated for barial
21:04 lwq_laptop i'll need to probally get some ground faults too
21:04 egrsteve and outdoor exposure
21:05 egrsteve just use a cord, it will be safer and much less hassle
21:05 Monkeh I'll admit ignorance of US regs on this but any sane person knows you need a cable with an earthed sheath.
21:05 Monkeh These are non-trivial to install
21:05 lwq_laptop i know this
21:05 Seroster Here you can get really damn cheap wire called Kulo. It's three conductor single strand, L N PE, with PVC insulation around, and then a metal braid, and then a sturdy folded shield, and then another layer of PVC, and another layer of PVC.
21:06 egrsteve no, you just needed a direct burial rated wire or PVC conduit rated for outdoor with a ground wire buried at a sutable depth
21:06 wannabe-tgg the beer i like is in at the store :D
21:06 Monkeh egrsteve: Crazy regs you have there
21:06 lwq_laptop i thought you didnt like beer period
21:06 Monkeh We use this: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/SW6SLASH2.JPG
21:06 Seroster The wire I mentioned is about a buck per yard here. Comes in rolls of 10, 25, 50 or 100meters.
21:07 Monkeh It is not trivial to terminate for the inexperienced
21:07 wannabe-tgg ofc my computer starts acting up when the lab people are *not* here....
21:07 Seroster monkeh Great way to become experienced.
21:07 Monkeh Seroster: Is creating a dangerous electrical installation, yes.
21:07 lwq_laptop monkeh, i dont know how to install that
21:07 Monkeh lwq_laptop: Exactly. Extension cord.
21:08 lwq_laptop im thinking a 3 conductor wire rated for 110v at 20amps
21:08 egrsteve unless you want to dig a 2-3 ft deep trench, install conduit and water tight fittings into either building. continue the conduit run to the load center. pull wire between load center and shed and terminate both ends, that is a LOT of work
21:08 Seroster http://www.elbutik.se/PICTURE/13562-3.jpg < Kulo.    If you put a post with a crossbar between the house and the shed you can even hang it.
21:08 lwq_laptop or how ever many amps i need
21:08 wannabe-tgg ....freeze warning tonight :/
21:08 Monkeh lwq_laptop: It's more complicated than that.
21:08 Monkeh Just.. go buy a long enough extension cord
21:08 Monkeh Walk it out when you need it. Walk it back when you're done.
21:09 lwq_laptop im too lazy to roll it up :P
21:09 wannabe-tgg lwq_laptop: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393119_375805012453275_273879369312507_1138276_1899424003_n.jpg
21:09 Seroster That's the spirit, Lee!!
21:09 egrsteve just buy a sutable length 12 awg cord, a 20A breaker will trip before the cord has any issue
21:09 lwq_laptop wannabe: what the fuck
21:09 tonsofpcs wait, lwq = hightechkid
21:09 tonsofpcs ?
21:09 wannabe-tgg doubt it tons
21:09 lwq_laptop no
21:09 Seroster I'd rather spend hours solving a problem that could be fixed by doing something that takes one minute every time because I'm lazy. It's logic.
21:09 wannabe-tgg dog!
21:09 lwq_laptop that kid fucking annoys me
21:11 Seroster lwq_laptop, If it takes you 25 hours to install the wire in a conduit you will have saved time when you roll in the extension cord the 150th time =D
21:11 egrsteve electronics and electrical installation are 2 different things. unless you are compitent or know an electriction willing to help you don't try to install a perminate service to your shed on your own
21:11 lwq_laptop eh true
21:11 * wannabe-tgg has cookies
21:11 wannabe-tgg egrsteve does not :D
21:11 Seroster egrsteve, Either one can burn your house down.
21:12 lwq_laptop my dad wired whole houses, hes compintant.
21:12 * egrsteve pulls huge chocolate chocolate cookie from his lunch box
21:12 egrsteve do I?
21:12 wannabe-tgg i have 1lb of cookies!
21:12 lwq_laptop .cookie
21:12 BotSteve Here you go, lwq_laptop, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
21:12 tonsofpcs lwq_laptop: is this an outbuilding?
21:12 lwq_laptop i got endless cookies made by my slave
21:12 Seroster lwq_laptop, Tell him about your idea and have him help you.
21:12 lwq_laptop its a tiny shed im going to build
21:13 Monkeh Oh dear, now he's building a shed.
21:13 Monkeh I'll ask again
21:13 tonsofpcs lwq_laptop: building a foundatuon too?
21:13 Monkeh Why are you worried about setting the house on fire?
21:13 lwq_laptop i know how to build a foundation
21:13 Seroster Install a cutout lever on the side of the house and and make sure to have the shed fused and GFId.
21:13 lwq_laptop monkeh, i tend to take my experiments too far sometimes
21:14 egrsteve put the GFI on the house end to any faults from house to shed will also trigger it
21:14 Seroster monkeh It's not about the shed, it's not even about fear of burning the house down.  This is about building something of your own and use it.
21:14 * Monkeh coughs and chokes
21:14 Monkeh Seroster: I'm well aware of that, but there's also the small issue of biting off more than you can chew.
21:14 lwq_laptop im going to put a separate breaker box in the shed along with a breaker in the box, just to be safer
21:14 Monkeh The internet is not the way to go for advice on stuff you're this unfamiliar with
21:15 Monkeh egrsteve: Any online wholesalers for electrical stuff over there?
21:15 Seroster ...Isnt that kind of the point of tgg? =)
21:15 lwq_laptop im familiar with building stuff and installing wireing
21:15 tonsofpcs lwq_laptop: i'd use fusible disconnects instead
21:15 Monkeh Seroster: He's not at TGG and he's not in front of one of us.
21:15 egrsteve better to go to a local supply house or store in most cases
21:15 Seroster ...
21:15 tonsofpcs i think KB3NZQ_Biostar is closest
21:15 Monkeh egrsteve: Yeah, I know, I just want to look around.
21:16 lwq_laptop KB3NZQ_Biostar: where do you live?
21:16 egrsteve hmm, look at home depot or lowes, both major home improvment chains
21:16 wannabe-tgg .c 9.51+1.38+37
21:16 BotSteve 47.89
21:16 tonsofpcs .g qrz kb3nzq
21:16 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/2012-01-23
21:16 tonsofpcs ugh
21:16 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: BotSteve needs to not return google results to the logs
21:17 Monkeh egrsteve: Do they tend to carry a full range of actual wiring products rather than a subset for clueless DIYers?
21:17 egrsteve they carry most items
21:17 Monkeh Remarkable.
21:17 Monkeh The DIY chains in the UK are totally worthless.
21:17 wannabe-tgg .c 4.99+30+7
21:17 BotSteve 41.99
21:17 egrsteve nice
21:18 tonsofpcs Monkeh: they'll carry everythjng needed for single phase, they wont carry high current or 3ph stuff
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21:18 egrsteve basicly what tons said although they do sell 200A load centers
21:19 tonsofpcs Monkeh: they're "home improvement" stores - translstion: they sell things to contractors all day and consumers at night
21:19 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Right. Totally different animal.
21:19 * Monkeh ponders B&Q where they keep some electrical stuff at 3x the normal price and never the bits you need
21:20 Monkeh God forbid I want 20mm conduit saddles. They can sell me one of a five hundred generic CUs they keep in stock but no flipping conduit saddles
21:20 wannabe-tgg .c 9.19+7.93
21:20 BotSteve 17.12
21:20 tonsofpcs want lumber?  they have it.  just broke your table saw? they'll rent you one or sell you a new one.  got s rush job to redo electrical for a residence?  they'll have what you need
21:20 tonsofpcs conduit saddles?
21:21 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Want lumber? Go to a timber merchants, there are five good ones near me. Table saw? Multiple good hire shops. Electrical? .. shit, should've kept stock.
21:21 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Conduit saddle: http://www.qvsdirect.com/images/D/galvanised-steel-spacer-saddle-bar-large-01.jpg
21:21 egrsteve americans like one stop shopping
21:22 Monkeh egrsteve: So do I. I've just yet to find anyone worth going to for it.
21:22 egrsteve not to say we don't have specialized buisnesses for all of the above as well
21:22 egrsteve but they are ussualy used by contrators or people with big projects
21:22 Monkeh I've yet to find a single cable at Lowes I'd consider suitable for burial.
21:23 Monkeh egrsteve: See, if I go to a timber merchants I get a better price on better quality goods with less fuss. And I get a discount too because I know the guys.
21:24 egrsteve http://www.lowes.com/pd_70020-295-13055923_4294749533_4294937087_?productId=1098057&amp;Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_UF%2BUnderground%2BFeeder_4294749533_4294937087_%3FNs%3Dp_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr%7C0%7C%7Cp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1&facetInfo=
21:24 BotSteve Title: Shop Southwire 100 Ft.12-2 UF Underground Feeder Cable at Lowes.com
21:24 Monkeh egrsteve: Yep.. not suitable for burial.
21:24 egrsteve never claimed you don't here either
21:24 egrsteve sad part is that is concidered burial heer
21:24 egrsteve *here
21:24 tlockley yNos: you around?
21:24 Monkeh I get sufficiently better prices to make shopping around better no matter the scale.
21:25 Monkeh egrsteve: Wow, that's.. basically what we use as normal house wiring.
21:25 egrsteve it's basicly a high grade romex with a UV rated jacket
21:25 Monkeh Except you only rate that for 20A on a 90C, 12AWG cable? What?
21:25 egrsteve but it is rated for burial
21:26 Monkeh Yeah, that's.. a bad joke.
21:26 Monkeh Where's the earthed armour?
21:26 egrsteve not needed here, we a just a bunch of crazy yanks I guess
21:27 Monkeh That you are.
21:27 egrsteve an it's UL rated too
21:27 wannabe-tgg http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2012/03/26/awesome-tardis-iphone-case/  want
21:27 BotSteve Title: Awesome Tardis iPhone Case
21:27 Monkeh Bonkers.
21:27 wannabe-tgg i don't have an iphone
21:27 wannabe-tgg but still
21:27 wannabe-tgg if i did.
21:27 Monkeh Give me SWA every day
21:27 astro73|alice nice
21:27 wannabe-tgg or for an android?
21:27 wannabe-tgg please!!!!
21:28 Monkeh egrsteve: Electrical barbarians. You're like kids playing with matches. :P
21:29 egrsteve maybe their is a reason they only let us play with 120
21:29 Monkeh Indeed
21:29 Monkeh Not that it's really any safer
21:29 * egrsteve runs off to locate a 480 3Phase panel
21:30 Monkeh Now you're getting somewhere
21:30 egrsteve no, not really besides it's 240 split phase so phase to phase is 240
21:31 Electricguy this guy is hilarious XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeINHSD1NUs
21:31 tonsofpcs Monkeh: oh, i'd rather go to an electrical supply house but some folks don't knpw what they want enough to find one yet alone tell the clerk what they need
21:31 BotSteve Title: The Fu*kablity of the Reply Girls! - YouTube
21:31 Monkeh You'll get a bit more than that going phase to phase in my house :P
21:31 Monkeh .. not that you can go phase to phase in my house.
21:31 Monkeh I can arrange something nasty with next door's outside light, though.
21:31 tonsofpcs why not?
21:31 Monkeh They're not on the same phase.
21:32 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Because we're 240V phase to earth. We don't need multiple phases for most properties.
21:32 tonsofpcs single leg + neutral only delivered?
21:32 Monkeh I can have 415V three-phase 100A if I want, but they'll have to dig up my drive to do it
21:32 Monkeh As it is I have 240V single phase, 100A.
21:32 wannabe-tgg this is boring
21:32 tonsofpcs that's split phase...
21:32 Monkeh Which is a LOT.
21:33 wannabe-tgg back to places with dirt/dust
21:33 Monkeh tonsofpcs: .. No, it's a three phase setup.
21:33 tonsofpcs single phase is two legs
21:33 Monkeh tonsofpcs: 240V to earth, 415V between phases. One phase per house alternating down the street.
21:33 Monkeh I'm on one phase (really not sure, let's call it the yellow one). Next door is on blue, and the next one down gets red.
21:34 tonsofpcs no, your 240 to earth is split-phase delivery.  single phase is leg-to-leg.  leg-to-n is split.
21:34 Monkeh (the phase colours here predate harmonisation)
21:34 Monkeh It's off a three-phase transformer.
21:34 Monkeh Split-phase is a centre tapped transformer.
21:35 tonsofpcs so is my single phase delivery here... but i have two legs and a n.
21:36 tonsofpcs you have single-leg wye service...
21:37 tonsofpcs i'm not sure if i'm wye or delta here, havent needed to check.
21:37 Monkeh Are you split phase or not?
21:38 Thermoelectric I still like my single leg wye 240V. Less wires.
21:38 tonsofpcs i'm 120 nominal leg to neutral
21:38 wannabe-tgg ew.  you should see the brown nasty water from the mop bucket from the floor down here.
21:38 Monkeh And 240V across them, three wires?
21:39 tonsofpcs i have two legs, idk if it's 240 or 208 leg-to-leg
21:39 tonsofpcs (240 would be center-tapped delta, 208 would be wye)
21:40 Monkeh You guys have too many different setups.
21:40 Monkeh We have all of two and only one is common.
21:41 Monkeh As I said before, I get one phase of a three-phase transformer and neutral. Yes, that's a wye setup.
21:42 Monkeh I can get three phases if I want them
21:42 tonsofpcs no one would get that here except in really rural areas
21:42 Monkeh Rural areas here get split phase.
21:42 Monkeh Because they've been given one phase of the HV network to use
21:43 tonsofpcs eww
21:43 Monkeh (normally they'll only get provided a single 240V to earth phase but they can get the second if they want it)
21:43 Monkeh Split-phase as such goes up to 480V
21:43 Monkeh (all new installations are 230/400 or 230/460 (three and split), mind you)
21:44 tonsofpcs we have 480v 3ph available here
21:44 Monkeh As I said, you have too many different systems
21:44 Monkeh And far too many individual transformers.
21:44 Monkeh Which, of course, you need, because you need stupendous currents to get anything done from 120V.
21:45 tonsofpcs not always.  my transformer is right outside but i live in an apartment complex and it feeds everyone
21:45 Monkeh My entire street (and quite possibly a couple of others) runs off one transformer
21:45 Monkeh At 240/415.
21:46 tonsofpcs they do that here.
21:46 Monkeh The downside is some cock has a dodgy compressor and it keeps dicking with my lights.
21:46 Monkeh One of these days..
21:46 Gaxnys I wonder how it is here in Sweden. I have no idea. :(
21:46 tonsofpcs we'll have 'higher' voltage pole-top and stepped down on a lower run that branches to houses
21:47 Monkeh You can't seriously be running 120V down a street?
21:47 Monkeh You must have transformers every few properties.
21:47 tonsofpcs 240v phases....
21:47 Monkeh 120V to earth which is what most people use.#
21:48 tonsofpcs 120v to N
21:48 Monkeh Which is earth, your point?
21:48 tonsofpcs PE is separate
21:48 Monkeh (unless it's not and your systems are hilarious)
21:49 DruidicSniper I just realised
21:49 Thermoelectric If you're running phase and earth, then a GFI wouldn't work.
21:49 DruidicSniper there is an old high school forsale
21:49 Monkeh Thermoelectric: .. I know that, but neutral and earth are at (more or less) the same potential.
21:49 DruidicSniper it was closed because the board was ashamed that it had the highest teen pregnancy rate in ontario
21:49 tonsofpcs so in some communities there will be 3ph up high and then a transformer ('pole pig') will take a phase and spit out 240v+center-tapped-N and feed an area
21:50 tonsofpcs DruidicSniper: line drawing fallacy ftw!
21:50 DruidicSniper I wanna turn it into a lab
21:50 Thermoelectric Monkeh, Yes, neutral is most often tied to ground, but best practice is to run back through neutral, else you'll end up tripping any safety devices down the line.
21:50 tonsofpcs (240v line-to-line)
21:50 Monkeh Thermoelectric: ... Yes, I know that.
21:50 Thermoelectric Just checkin'.
21:50 tonsofpcs Monkeh: 'earth' doesn't exist in our distribution system.
21:51 * Monkeh ticks up another black mark against american installations
21:51 tonsofpcs (well, not conceptually -- they install earthing for safety at distribution transformers and switches)
21:52 Monkeh Earthing systems here vary but in all except TT cases earth and neutral are one and the same at the transformer and usually at the beginning of the installation at the property
21:52 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you'd rather your neighbor be able to feed 400V down your 'earthing' conductor to your home?
21:52 Monkeh Industrial usage is a bit different.
21:52 Monkeh tonsofpcs: He'd blow a fuse long before the potential in my property rose.
21:53 tonsofpcs Monkeh: where would he blow a fuse?
21:53 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Er, either his installation or the main distribution fuse for his phase.
21:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: he just generated 400v and plugged it into the system.  so what if the system falls apart? ypu're still connected
21:54 SparkyProjects In all cases earth and neutral are the same
21:54 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthing_system
21:54 BotSteve Title: Earthing system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:54 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Not if it's a TT system
21:54 Monkeh Well
21:54 Monkeh It is at the transformer.
21:54 SparkyProjects Look at link
21:54 Monkeh But it doesn't come out to the property and the earth under your feet may not agree.
21:56 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If I wasn't on the first floor, the earth under my feet would be the same potential as my earth conductor. And the same potential as the neutral conductor at my CU. The neutral in here is.. approximately .3V to earth.
21:56 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If someone is kind enough to dump 400V into it, well, it won't make much difference to me.
21:57 SparkyProjects Sure, there could be a potential difference between transformer earth and consumer earth, but that should be as low as possible, that's why we do a loop impedance tesr
21:57 Monkeh SparkyProjects: There sure as hell can be a BIG one if someone breaks the neutral :)
21:57 Monkeh That's why we like PME. A lot.
21:58 SparkyProjects The TT system is why some horses died at a racecourse recently
21:59 Monkeh Gradients.
21:59 tonsofpcs Monkeh: imagine that hightechkid was on your phase next door.
21:59 Monkeh Not a huge problem for humans with 240V (or even 415V)
21:59 Monkeh But for four legged creatures? It does not take a lot.
22:00 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If he was he wouldn't have electricity any more.
22:00 Monkeh The DNO would've dug up the street and disconnected him by now.
22:00 SparkyProjects On the estate where i worked, any earth rod had to be deeper than in normal installations because of (mainly) the cows
22:00 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Nice deep rods and lots of them
22:00 wannabe-tgg someone needs to mark the working outlets at tgg with flags....
22:01 Electricguy i'm thinkning about using a late 90's CCD camera and a video grabber as a webcam XD
22:01 Electricguy just because i want a milk carton sized camera on my screen XD
22:02 SparkyProjects Just put tape over the non working ones as you find them, mark them as such
22:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If the setup here is what I think it is, at every branch to a house (we have underground cabling here, so you know) there's an earth connection. And any conductive parts which happen to be touching earth (gas pipes are probably it, the water is LDPE) are bonded quite thoroughly. We get a seriously solid earth.
22:03 Monkeh And you'd have to break the connection in my driveway to interrupt it
22:03 Monkeh (to my property)
22:03 SparkyProjects Monkeh, the reason for bonding other services is to assure all services are at earth potential, not for a better earth
22:03 Monkeh SparkyProjects: American electrics bother me.
22:04 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I know that
22:04 Monkeh But it has the fringe benefit of ensuring the earth under me really is the same as the provided earth.
22:04 SparkyProjects So even if the water is LOPE, the copper in your house must be bonded
22:04 Monkeh Not if you can be sure it's floating.
22:05 Monkeh But you can't, really
22:05 Monkeh I was just making the point that the gas pipes probably do make a functional connection to earth
22:05 SparkyProjects Never rely on an external service, in many places they have changed metal gas pipes in  the road to LOPE or other plastic, though you may still have metal from there to your meter.
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22:06 Monkeh Of course they might be totally sleeved
22:06 Monkeh I really don't know
22:06 Monkeh They come up through a concrete floor, I'm not going looking.
22:07 Monkeh Either way, there's only one place you can interrupt my earth and you're going to make a big explosion doing it
22:07 SparkyProjects If you notice, the bonding clamps are always on the consumer side of the valve/meter
22:07 Monkeh Yes, because continuity through the meter can't be guaranteed
22:07 Monkeh I've seen many installs with bonding taken to both sides
22:08 Monkeh Kinda makes sense if you've got a lot of copper exposed on the supply side
22:08 SparkyProjects In that case, yes it does, but it's not part of regs
22:08 Monkeh Never said it was
22:09 Monkeh Considering the metal body of my meter I'd hazard a guess at a good connection through it anyway
22:09 Monkeh I'm almost curious to probe it and find out but it's buried in the back of the garage and it's rather late at night.
22:09 SparkyProjects It should be because if they change your meter, there could be a potential between the service pipe and your house earth
22:09 wannabe-tgg yummy.  dust!
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22:10 wannabe-tgg o.o
22:10 dbshortwave what are you lookin at
22:10 wannabe-tgg hi
22:10 dbshortwave lol
22:10 Monkeh Wouldn't they clamp a lead across it when doing that to avoid that?
22:10 wannabe-tgg you
22:10 dbshortwave hi
22:10 dbshortwave i know my uglyness is awesome isnt it
22:10 SparkyProjects Never seen a gas installer do that
22:10 Monkeh I'd have thought it common sense
22:11 dbshortwave ;]
22:12 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Then again, they get lazy. As do some DNO workers. Quite a few cases of them working live without any protective gear.
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22:26 wannabe-tgg "Vending machine will not dispense free product"  no shit!
22:26 Electricguy lol
22:26 wannabe-tgg took pic of the sign, btw
22:27 Electricguy hehehe ok :P
22:27 tonsofpcs wannabe-tgg: that means it will but they dont want you to figure out how
22:27 wannabe-tgg and why are there unfilled/unworking vending machines in the "chem" lab?
22:28 Electricguy it's like that coca cola soda vending machine where you can styick your hand up and hold the first bottle to make the machine return to pick up on more :P
22:29 Monkeh wannabe-tgg: Probably because they were left there and nobody wants to move one
22:29 tonsofpcs wannabe-tgg: clearly someone is preparing for live-action half-lide
22:29 tonsofpcs *half-life
22:30 wannabe-tgg lol
22:30 wannabe-tgg i want to fill them and make money!
22:31 Electricguy TGG should get LOTS of fun circuit boards to fill the machines with! ;P
22:31 Electricguy buy a random PCB for 1 dollar and scrap it for parts! :P
22:32 wannabe-tgg ...the table just tried to eat my cloth...
22:32 Electricguy om nom nom
22:33 wannabe-tgg there are screws/nails sticking out of the table, sharp end UP!
22:36 Electricguy bedtime! night all :)
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22:45 wannabe-tgg hi Nitten
22:46 Nitten hi
22:47 astro73|alice what's going on at the lab
22:47 astro73|alice ?
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22:48 Nitten what is Geek Group
22:48 wannabe-tgg i don't know whats going on....why?
22:48 wannabe-tgg The Geek Group is a lab in Grand Rapids MI where science happens.
22:48 astro73|alice i just turned on the livestream
22:49 Nitten oh okay cool
22:49 wannabe-tgg and?
22:49 astro73|alice there were some people walking, and now it's quiet
22:49 wannabe-tgg o  ok
22:50 wannabe-tgg its a quiet day here.
22:51 wannabe-tgg Nitten how did you find the geek group?
22:51 lwq_laptop joined #thegeekgroup
22:52 Nitten via www.ml2.dk u are a part of there friends on the site
22:52 astro73|alice http://www.ml2.dk/ ?
22:52 BotSteve Title: ML2 - Gaming & Sparetime Community!
22:53 Nitten yea
22:53 astro73|alice never heard of it
22:53 Nitten http://ml2.dk/?pageid=5 this is the direct link to friends site
22:53 BotSteve Title: ML2 - Gaming & Sparetime Community!
22:54 Nitten is some danish ppls there love all about programming and hardware of any kind
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22:56 Waxmonsky Good Evening
22:56 astro73|alice too bad i don't know any danish
22:57 Waxmonsky wax on
22:57 Nitten yea the founders is Lucas Pedersen (LuXiius), Nicolai Clemmensen (Majcherek128/2048) and Patrick Petersen (2-Times-P) they have a cobble of gaming servers...
22:58 Nitten mabye u have seen them here or something and when i'm just went throug there website i click on a lin to thegeekgroup
22:58 astro73|alice none of those names sound familiar to me
22:59 astro73|alice .seen luxiius
22:59 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen luxiius around.
22:59 Waxmonsky waxmonsky
22:59 astro73|alice yes, that is your nick.
23:00 Waxmonsky last mane
23:00 Waxmonsky mane
23:00 Waxmonsky name
23:00 Nitten but i will prepare for bed the time here in Denmark is around 01:00 am
23:00 Waxmonsky left #thegeekgroup
23:01 Nitten so have a good day and have fun... nice to talk to ya all bye
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23:04 VictrolaWax Good Evening
23:04 astro73|alice you know, you can /nick for that
23:05 astro73|alice and good bye
23:05 VictrolaWax Horsefeathers
23:05 VictrolaWax !!!
23:11 VictrolaWax quiet here ???
23:15 wannabe-tgg yes
23:19 yNos hey all
23:19 TGG-Zozo yo
23:20 wannabe-tgg hi ynos
23:20 yNos am at the michigan beer cwllar for biers atm
23:21 TGG-Zozo lucky
23:21 yNos who all is at the lab?
23:21 wannabe-tgg ....thats near sparta, isn't it?
23:21 wannabe-tgg dave/batman left
23:21 wannabe-tgg so aaron, cpro, me, zozo, ajprog, and steve
23:21 wannabe-tgg supposedly boden is here too
23:21 yNos in sparta, next door to the bp on the east side of town
23:21 wannabe-tgg i saw him around 1, and thats about it
23:22 yNos hmmm
23:25 wannabe-tgg why?
23:26 tonsofpcs yawn
23:27 wannabe-tgg agreed
23:28 injektion Does anyone here know how moddable these are? http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SAF10346-NOOS-PB-R&amp;cat=SYS
23:28 BotSteve Title: SAFARI Digital Media Commander (DMC Le) VIA Eden 600MHz 256MB 40GB No Operating System Library Video Company SAF10346 DMC Le
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23:32 wannabe-tgg is chuck roast the same as chuckeye roast?
23:38 injektion I could buy an XPe thin client for the same price just wondering if it's worth it
23:42 PacketHumper injektion: i missed the first part of what you said.
23:42 PacketHumper start from the begining
23:43 injektion Does anyone here know how moddable these are? http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SAF10346-NOOS-PB-R&amp;cat=SYS
23:43 BotSteve Title: SAFARI Digital Media Commander (DMC Le) VIA Eden 600MHz 256MB 40GB No Operating System Library Video Company SAF10346 DMC Le
23:43 PacketHumper thin clients can be cost effective but they can also be limiting.
23:43 PacketHumper just depends on what you are going to do with it.
23:44 PacketHumper never worked with one of those before. what are you looking to do with it?
23:45 injektion Turn it into a thin client
23:47 PacketHumper rdp?
23:47 PacketHumper or are you looking to run actual softare on it
23:48 injektion RDP
23:49 PacketHumper oh, then it shouldn't matter.
23:49 PacketHumper as long as it's got 100mbit ethernet you should be fine.
23:50 PacketHumper i had a crappy wyse that i kept here for remoting into clients servers just to fiddle with it but it died.
23:52 injektion I have a legal copy of windows server
23:54 PacketHumper what version?
23:54 PacketHumper 08 or 08r2
23:54 PacketHumper r2 is much nicer...
23:54 PacketHumper 08 is the vista version and 08 r2 is the win7 version.
23:56 injektion R2
23:59 PacketHumper oh nice
23:59 PacketHumper as long as that client is capable of booting into any OS which can do RDP then you'll be fine.

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