Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-30

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00:00 PacketHumper i've trained all my own dogs.l
00:00 PacketHumper and helped others train theirs.
00:00 Experimentonomen aight im off
00:00 HighMan Nice
00:00 Experimentonomen nite peepz
00:00 HighMan Night
00:00 PacketHumper night Experimentonomen
00:00 PacketHumper dogs that have been abused are very tricky to discipline.
00:01 PacketHumper this seems to get the job done because it's a definate no without me raising a hand or taking a threatening posture.
00:01 PacketHumper however, trash is his vice.  he just can't seem to not get into it.
00:01 HighMan Don't hurt omni.
00:01 HighMan ...Well...
00:02 HighMan Get some liquid ass ;)
00:02 PacketHumper lol
00:02 PacketHumper liquid ass?
00:02 PacketHumper is that like fart in a can?
00:02 HighMan It's VILE.
00:02 PacketHumper yah, loki would roll in it.
00:02 PacketHumper you also have to understand that loki is not a small dog.
00:02 PacketHumper he's the size of a pony.
00:02 HighMan Is he like omni?
00:02 PacketHumper way bigger
00:02 PacketHumper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mp-RjbAz1Y
00:02 BotSteve Title: Loki learning to swim - YouTube
00:03 PacketHumper there you can see for youself but the video doesn't do him justice.
00:03 PacketHumper he's put on weight since we got him but not much and he's easily 120lbs
00:03 HighMan Hydrophbic?
00:03 PacketHumper was
00:03 PacketHumper he was scared of everything.
00:03 HighMan Oh I gotcha
00:04 HighMan I can see why.
00:04 PacketHumper he's a very sweet dog that is a blast.  he's quickly learning that new things are fun.
00:04 PacketHumper yah he's huge. lol
00:04 PacketHumper we go swimming every day now.
00:04 HighMan Cool
00:04 PacketHumper some days when he's fetching in the water he wares his life jacket.
00:05 PacketHumper i have video of him with it that i need to get off the camera and rendered
00:18 egrsteve yay, I haz duplexer
00:19 PacketHumper lol
00:21 egrsteve and no one here cares, well maybe PacketHumper does, but just enough to laugh at be
00:22 egrsteve *me
00:22 egrsteve granted chat is for all intents dead right now
00:24 * masterofmonks casts Create Greater Undead on the channel.
00:24 egrsteve noodle cannon time?
00:25 egrBRAINZ too late
00:26 HighMan Hi eg
00:26 HighMan egrBRAINZ
00:26 HighMan Hugs Bisons
00:27 HighMan I am king of ithaca.
00:32 HighMan Who's read the FULL oddeseys?
00:33 HighMan And/or the book after it...
00:33 Sgt_Lemming http://amultiverse.com/files/comics/2012-03-28-Monkey-Business.png
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00:40 HighMan ...
00:46 masterofmonks HighMan, As in 2001, or the one written by Homer?
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00:46 HighMan Homer sir
00:46 HighMan (I read a snipet of it in english class)
00:47 masterofmonks I see.
00:47 HighMan ...
00:48 PacketHumper lol egrsteve not laughing at you, laughing at the fact that you are excited to have a duplexer.  It reminds me of digging through all the boxes of old stuff i have around here and finding a pci-e gigE nic from intel.
00:48 egrsteve nice
00:48 PacketHumper HighMan: i had to my freshman year.
00:48 masterofmonks Have you read A Midsummer's Night's Dream?
00:48 HighMan Have you read the 1000 page book masterofmonks?
00:48 masterofmonks HighMan, at one point or another.
00:48 egrsteve well I have had a repeater I have been wanting to get working but I didn't have a duplexer
00:48 HighMan Have I ever really read a book should be the question.
00:48 egrsteve so now I do
00:48 HighMan PacketHumper Same xD
00:48 PacketHumper HighMan: it's not an easy read.
00:49 HighMan Well I read a snipet.
00:49 masterofmonks HighMan, I read it when I was like nine or ten.
00:49 HighMan And I don't like reading period.
00:49 HighMan I was going to say "WHAT?!?!?!" but back then there was no such thing as tech... So I'd get it.
00:49 PacketHumper i preffer book on tape because then i can keep my eyes on the road.
00:49 PacketHumper HighMan: rofl
00:50 PacketHumper i forget you all are young. lol
00:50 masterofmonks PacketHumper, I am currently listening to The Dresden Files series at work.
00:50 HighMan PacketHumper So funny.
00:50 masterofmonks PacketHumper, how old are you?
00:50 PacketHumper 31
00:50 masterofmonks Me too.
00:50 HighMan masterofmonks Please when you are forging, don't get distracted and laugh or something and slam your finger by a hammer.
00:50 PacketHumper lol
00:50 masterofmonks HighMan, Not likely.
00:50 HighMan xD
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00:50 HighMan Just making sure
00:51 masterofmonks For that to happen I would have to have my hand wrapped around a piece of 1800 degree steel.
00:51 PacketHumper brb guys i think the fiance is home... or the neighbors are over.
00:51 masterofmonks Hello Guest60845, formerly rene.
00:51 HighMan What?
00:51 HighMan OH
00:51 HighMan xD
00:51 masterofmonks Guest60845, You can change your nick by using the command /nick yournewnick
00:51 HighMan I get it....
00:52 HighMan I heard my friend who was using a torch and had red hot iron, it dropped and she tried to catch it. She had serious burns.
00:52 HighMan *I know my cousin's friend who was
00:52 HighMan And you have 1 day left.
00:53 masterofmonks I have had molten zinc sprayed all over the front of my right arm.
00:53 HighMan OUCH.
00:53 masterofmonks HighMan, You are not worth that effort from me.
00:53 PacketHumper maybe he likes being called Guest60845
00:53 HighMan Well :P
00:54 * egrsteve returns to lurking and reading
00:54 Guest60845 hello i im rene  new member thegeekgroup as about where i pay the membership off thegeekgroup
00:55 masterofmonks Hello rene, am I correct in assuming that english is not your first language?
00:55 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
00:55 SparkyProjects http://thegeekgroup.org/
00:55 SparkyProjects You want the 'become a member'
00:55 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group
00:56 Sgt_Lemming http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20120329.gif
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01:20 Cprossu tonsofpcs i need your help!!!
01:20 Monkeh|Lap I want a 1000A wall wart. :{
01:20 Cprossu I just found a Chryon 'Digital Lantern64' card!
01:21 Cprossu *Chyron
01:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Now go get a tissue.. :P
01:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: What on earth is that anyway?
01:24 Druidic_Rifleman Anyone good with physics
01:25 Druidic_Rifleman I need help Figuring out the difference between a nerf mini vortex foorball and a 2.5 inch mortar bomb
01:25 Druidic_Rifleman well
01:25 Druidic_Rifleman Besides the obvious
01:26 Monkeh|Lap Weight, balance, drag..? :P
01:27 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
01:27 Druidic_Rifleman it's for a saftey video for paint ball
01:27 Monkeh|Lap One kills you, the other annoys you?
01:27 Druidic_Rifleman basicly
01:27 masterofmonks Monkeh, That depends on force.
01:27 Druidic_Rifleman i want more... scientificate
01:28 egrsteve batman needs this http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/on-sale/e9e4/#tabs
01:28 BotSteve Title: ThinkGeek :: Batman Apron
01:28 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Well, yes, but at any range they'll have no energy left.
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01:28 Druidic_Rifleman an object 2 lbs at 500 FPS or higher
01:29 Monkeh|Lap That's kinda fast. Yeah, that could do some damage if it's small enough to poke anything delicate.
01:29 Monkeh|Lap And you'll have a bit of a bruise.
01:29 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: look it up!
01:29 Cprossu and find me drivers/software to make it work!
01:30 masterofmonks Anything below say 1" at the point of inpact, at that velocity could be fatal.
01:30 masterofmonks Hell 2lbs at that velocity could be fatal period.
01:30 Monkeh|Lap In the right spot, yeah.
01:30 masterofmonks Depending on your range.
01:30 Monkeh|Lap I imagine it'll be moving a LOT slower after about 20 feet though.
01:30 Druidic_Rifleman ummm
01:30 Druidic_Rifleman It's indirect monkeh
01:31 Druidic_Rifleman Round goes up and falls back down
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Right, which means in normal use it's fairly harmless.
01:31 Druidic_Rifleman SOOOO
01:31 Monkeh|Lap But if you get in the way of it at close range it's a different ballgame entirely.
01:31 Druidic_Rifleman at 300 yards
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Work out the terminal velocity.
01:31 Druidic_Rifleman can i lob innert 2.5 inch mortar rounds at you then
01:32 masterofmonks I don't think you are going to get that kind of range.
01:32 Druidic_Rifleman yeah i wanna review the issue's in creating a paint ball mortar
01:33 Druidic_Rifleman Demonstrating what a mortar round even innert can do IS EASY!!!
01:33 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: They weigh a bit more than 2lb and are a hell of a lot harder.
01:33 Druidic_Rifleman I am guessing
01:34 Monkeh|Lap An actual 60mm mortar round is over a kilo and a half.
01:34 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, Why not use something more along the lines of a ballistic scatter gun?
01:35 Druidic_Rifleman kilogram?
01:35 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Best I can come up with is some sort of realtime video processing card?
01:35 masterofmonks 2.2lbs approx
01:35 Monkeh|Lap .c 1.6kg lbs
01:35 BotSteve 0.725747792 kg^(2)
01:35 Monkeh|Lap What
01:35 Druidic_Rifleman cause most even'ts don'tallow one to fire skatershot
01:35 Monkeh|Lap .c 1.6kg to lbs
01:35 BotSteve 3.52739619 pounds
01:35 Druidic_Rifleman Nerf foot balls are allow
01:35 Monkeh|Lap There you go.
01:36 Druidic_Rifleman allowed
01:36 Druidic_Rifleman actually yeah
01:36 Monkeh|Lap ... apparently the nerf football is 40 grams
01:36 Druidic_Rifleman i forgot some parts
01:36 Monkeh|Lap .c 40grams to lbs
01:36 BotSteve 0.0881849049 pounds
01:36 Druidic_Rifleman .c 3.52739619 pounds to grams
01:36 BotSteve 1600 grams
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Weigh one, work out the terminal velocity. I doubt it's going to do anyone any harm. It's FOAM.
01:37 Monkeh|Lap (but being on the end of the mortar would hurt a lot)
01:37 Druidic_Rifleman I've been shot with one
01:37 Druidic_Rifleman didn't feel it
01:37 Druidic_Rifleman paint balls hurt more
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Well yeah, they weigh
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Quite a lot
01:38 Druidic_Rifleman sub inch 200 FPS
01:38 Druidic_Rifleman even when they break
01:38 Druidic_Rifleman they sting
01:38 Monkeh|Lap That's the idea.
01:40 Druidic_Rifleman actually the idea was to mark a tree with out having to walk over to it
01:41 Druidic_Rifleman two idiots in the forestry service
01:41 Monkeh|Lap Yes, it was.
01:41 Druidic_Rifleman decided to try and shoot eachother
01:41 Monkeh|Lap (or may have been)
01:41 Druidic_Rifleman and now
01:41 Monkeh|Lap The idea NOW however.. :P
01:41 Druidic_Rifleman Guns shoot 40 times in a second
01:41 Monkeh|Lap Is to cause you pain and probably permanently stain your clothes
01:52 Druidic_Rifleman paint balls are Washable actually
01:52 Druidic_Rifleman I wair my normal pants paint balling washem good as new
01:53 HighMan http://i.imgur.com/8HmK0.gif
01:58 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
02:08 HighMan_Sleep Night All
02:16 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
02:18 Druidic_Rifleman hey wannabe
02:18 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve, druid
02:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
02:18 BotSteve At 29 Mar 18:08Z, Astronouth7303 asked me to ask wannabe1987 what projects still need to be done at the lab.
02:19 wannabe1987 astro73|alice: i don't know....what do you mean projects?
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman cafe elecronics lab lazer lab chemistry lab there is wood that needs to be removed from moose's Photography studio Recording studio needs to be built
02:20 wannabe1987 yes.  all that
02:20 wannabe1987 plus girl geek
02:20 wannabe1987 wheres moose;s photog?
02:20 wannabe1987 plus gh5
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman roof needs to have the leeks removed
02:20 wannabe1987 need new roof
02:20 Druidic_Rifleman The room with the wood in it
02:20 wannabe1987 ahhhh
02:20 wannabe1987 i didn't know that.  nifty
02:21 Druidic_Rifleman zeus
02:21 Druidic_Rifleman smidjen
02:21 Druidic_Rifleman Stomper updated models
02:22 Druidic_Rifleman Geekmobile 6? the lotus
02:23 Druidic_Rifleman my mini civil war rocket
02:24 Druidic_Rifleman well rocket's since i'm making up to 4 nozzels
02:27 Druidic_Rifleman one is going into the cafe displays
02:28 wannabe1987 if you're talking about where you buy food its the cafe, if you talk about where you eat the food its the lounge
02:28 * wannabe1987 is afk
02:30 Druidic_Rifleman should set your name to AFK then
02:30 wannabe1987 but i'm reading.  so i'm not really afk....irc is still open :P
02:31 Monkeh|Lap No, name changing is fairly annoying :P
02:31 wannabe1987 really, what i'm doing, is waiting for laundry to get done
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02:33 Cprossu PacketHumper, you there?
02:33 Cprossu I've been away from irc since rebuilding the computer lab
02:34 wannabe1987 cpro, your stuff is in the washer....tell zozo i'll head out there when its done with the dryer, ok?
02:34 Monkeh|Lap How're the indistinctly seperated labs going?
02:34 wannabe1987 compu lab looks great :D
02:34 Cprossu thanks and cool
02:37 Cprossu .log
02:37 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
02:38 wannabe1987 .in 20min dryer
02:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 02:58Z
02:38 wannabe1987 .in 50min washer
02:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 03:28Z
02:38 vtguy cool option
02:39 wannabe1987 mhm
02:39 * wannabe1987 <3s botsteve
02:39 Cprossu BotSteve: Now with LaundryTracker(tm)
02:39 wannabe1987 lol
02:39 vtguy lol
02:39 Cprossu hey, when was the 'packethumper' drama?
02:40 Cprossu I'm trying to find the god damn thing
02:40 BatSteve it's not here
02:40 BatSteve it was in NSFW
02:41 Cprossu ahhhhh
02:41 Cprossu (clicks(
02:41 vtguy hoping for good weather tomarrow
02:42 Cprossu *chris go use a dell*
02:42 BatSteve vtguy: where are you located?
02:42 tonsofpcs hi
02:42 vtguy Vermont :P
02:42 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Oh holy hell, that must've been exciting to watch.
02:42 Cprossu (Chris) Why don't you mastraibate with a cheese grater
02:42 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you have my cell #.
02:43 Cprossu I don't think so tonsofpcs
02:43 vtguy outch!!!
02:43 tonsofpcs it's in the wheatstone manual (alternatively, skype forwards to my cell)
02:44 Cprossu but did you get my message about the weird thing I found?
02:44 tonsofpcs anywaay, wazzap?
02:44 Cprossu I found a chyron card
02:44 tonsofpcs uh oh
02:44 Cprossu Magic Lantern 64
02:44 tonsofpcs who made it?
02:45 Cprossu it says 'Chyron" on it
02:45 Cprossu pci card
02:45 tonsofpcs it's a codi!
02:45 Cprossu vid in out, keyin key out, ref in
02:45 tonsofpcs óoo, a pci codi!
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: PacketHumper: So.. this clever new functionality on these Asus boards.. does _not_ leverage a nice EFI BIOS and instead just tries to make Windows act like a real OS (and fails)?
02:46 vtguy you building your own PC
02:46 tonsofpcs remember when i found  some chyron software to try and gave you ftp info?
02:46 tonsofpcs that's codi software!
02:46 Cprossu that was ages ago
02:46 Cprossu SWEET
02:46 Cprossu let me go look at my archives
02:47 tonsofpcs it'ss like lyric v1.4
02:47 Cprossu I wonder what kinda PC I should build for it
02:47 tonsofpcs windows uh.... 98se iirc
02:47 vtguy great thing about the internet now is if you dont have it your more then likely to find it on the web
02:48 vtguy 98 ewww
02:48 tonsofpcs migt have been 2k
02:49 tonsofpcs although the pci version might not be as limited as the 'PC' (ISA)  version
02:49 tonsofpcs PCI ver can do full color iirc
02:51 BatSteve I read that as "The great thing about the internet now is that if you don't have [the internet] you are more than likely to find [the internet] on the web"
02:51 BatSteve and I was like "well...yes"
02:51 tonsofpcs BatSteve: consider the plight of sheldon toblerone.....
02:51 vtguy i ment drivers for a pci card
02:52 BatSteve vtguy: yes, I figured that out afterwards.  :]
02:52 tonsofpcs vtguy: it's not drivers
02:52 BatSteve tonsofpcs: The little mousey thing is gone!  it must have fallen off and rolled under something.  So I bought two
02:52 tonsofpcs it's more that Cprossu found the pci card for the software
02:52 vtguy lol i have that mp3
02:53 tonsofpcs <3 dead troll(s in a baggie)
02:53 vtguy yup, i have some others by them too
02:53 Cprossu hmmm
02:54 BatSteve let's see if youtube works.
02:54 BatSteve .yt I hate the skydome and the CN tower too
02:54 BotSteve BatSteve: No results found for 'I hate the skydome and the CN tower too'.
02:54 Cprossu any way in hell I could make it run in XP?
02:54 tonsofpcs Cprossu: isn't the spare (irc) pc in mc win2k?
02:54 BatSteve aw
02:54 tonsofpcs Cprossu: i wouldnt try if i could avoid it.  xp is/.... well, xp
02:55 Cprossu but 98se./.......
02:55 Cprossu is 98se
02:55 tonsofpcs Cprossu: try 2k first
02:55 vtguy I love Paul's Financial Report by them
02:56 Cprossu damnit tonsofpcs I already have the xp box built. lol
02:56 tonsofpcs Cprossu: then try it
02:56 vtguy even better is their Drug Weather Report
02:57 Cprossu http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CCQQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadcaststore.com%2Fpdf%2Fmodel%2F13078%2Fcodi_PC_digital.pdf&amp;ei=7CB1T9j2DuLf0gHct8DIDQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNGcIifNzCoeJcarMl0H3oJzJCILRQ
02:57 tonsofpcs everything since the abacus.... just a bunch of crap
02:57 Cprossu * and XP drivers!!!!!!
02:58 BotSteve wannabe1987: dryer
02:58 vtguy jump wannabe1987
02:58 wannabe1987 no
02:58 Cprossu CRAP
02:58 tonsofpcs Cprossu: that's the sdi ver
02:58 Cprossu is this one SDI too
02:58 vtguy lol
02:59 tonsofpcs the one you have is not (i dont think)
02:59 tonsofpcs got pics?
03:00 Cprossu working on it
03:00 tonsofpcs anywaye, you install the software not the 'drivers'
03:00 vtguy ya ya ya
03:00 tonsofpcs drivers put it in remote key mode iirc
03:01 Cprossu kk
03:01 tonsofpcs (been a while since i used one yet alone fixed it)
03:02 tonsofpcs oh, and it needs gl prior to pc boot iirc
03:03 tonsofpcs gl in, pgm+key > sw'r, pvw/pgm2/whateve > monitor for operator; codi isnt exactly wysiwig
03:04 tonsofpcs actually, codi might only have one pgm out... *waits fer pics*
03:05 TGG-Zozo tonsofpcs, here ya go
03:05 BotSteve tgg-zozo: I have the following messages for you:
03:05 TGG-Zozo http://tinypic.com/r/335b5uq/5
03:05 BotSteve At 29 Mar 22:25Z, Astronouth7303 asked me to tell tgg-zozo that there should be an actual robot voice for RoboDJ
03:05 BotSteve Title: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
03:05 Cprossu ^ tonsofpcs link
03:07 tonsofpcs SDI
03:07 Cprossu FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
03:07 tonsofpcs but!
03:07 vtguy ?
03:07 tonsofpcs ápparently you can use it as an ltc inputncard too
03:08 Cprossu hmmm
03:09 tonsofpcs wait/.... hmmmm
03:09 tonsofpcs s
03:09 tonsofpcs digital codi pics show coax jumpers on the board.
03:10 tonsofpcs plug that in and get it up, plug outputs into monitors, you should see bars iirc
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03:10 tonsofpcs (power only)
03:10 Cprossu I'll give it a go
03:12 tonsofpcs tmman2k is the right driver btw
03:12 wannabe1987 ajprog_nt, hows canada?
03:13 vtguy heard Canada is going to kill the penny
03:14 tonsofpcs it is a 601 board.
03:15 tonsofpcs trying to figurey out iif it dos ntsc simul
03:17 tonsofpcs nope
03:17 tonsofpcs theres an analog monitor ou\t on one of the headers but it's useless
03:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: are there any analog > sdi converters at sll?
03:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: TGG-Zozo Cprossu
03:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's useless....
03:23 Cprossu damn
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03:23 Cprossu just got the computer off
03:23 Cprossu *up
03:24 Cprossu and I got a couple monitors.
03:24 Cprossu we do have some tonsofpcs but they are component->sdi
03:24 Cprossu afaik
03:24 vtguy dont what to know what you have to do to get a computer off hehe he
03:24 wannabe1987 vacuum it :P
03:24 Cprossu stfu vtguy
03:25 vtguy oh come on its was funny
03:25 Katemonster wannabe, what is it you learned in school but lost the meaning of?
03:25 wannabe1987 SOH CAH TOA, for sine, cosine, tangent
03:25 Katemonster oh
03:28 BotSteve wannabe1987: washer
03:28 vtguy wow has it been 50 min
03:29 Katemonster query BatSteve
03:29 Katemonster dammit
03:29 BatSteve Yes?
03:29 egrsteve hello (good morning)
03:29 Katemonster you've been /queeried.  note: this does not make you queer.
03:29 tonsofpcs gniite
03:30 wannabe1987 night
03:30 vtguy night
03:30 egrsteve night tonsofpcs
03:31 PacketHumper Goodbye everyone.  It's been fun while it lasted and it was nice to get to meet you all.  If you would like to chat about life and games and such you can find me on my minecraft server, my IRC channel #runwithscissors, or via email at levi@nerderosity.com.
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03:32 Cprossu hey egrsteve
03:32 Cprossu whats up?
03:32 egrsteve ceiling
03:32 vtguy lol
03:33 Cprossu I found another useless SDI goodie it seems egrsteve
03:33 egrsteve ok
03:34 Cprossu http://tinypic.com/r/335b5uq/5
03:34 BotSteve Title: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
03:34 egrsteve a chyron PCI card
03:34 wannabe1987 .in 40min dryer
03:34 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 04:14Z
03:34 egrsteve with altra fpga
03:38 egrsteve I need epic music
03:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs
03:42 Cprossu I installed the drivers
03:42 Cprossu it's working now
03:42 Cprossu monitor out is analog
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03:51 * egrsteve starts epic misic
03:51 egrsteve *music
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04:14 BotSteve wannabe1987: dryer
04:17 wannabe1987 .in 15min dryer
04:17 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 04:32Z
04:28 ajprog_nt .cookie
04:28 BotSteve Here you go, ajprog_nt, I baked you a christmas cookie!
04:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: dryer
04:39 wannabe1987 yay laundry's done!
04:39 wannabe1987 well, everyone elses is....
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04:42 wannabe1987 Cprossu: can you find zozo?
04:43 exor674 .in 5min carpet
04:43 BotSteve exor674: Okay, will remind at 04:48Z
04:44 wannabe-afk time to leave....be back in hour or so?
04:48 BotSteve exor674: carpet
04:50 lwq_laptop i slept since 6 till now
04:59 * lwq_laptop pokes wannabe-afk
05:14 * lwq_laptop pokes astro
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05:38 lwq_laptop hi seroster
05:45 lwq_laptop
05:52 Seroster Hi lee
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05:57 lwq_laptop hi zozo
05:58 Guardianzozo yo
06:00 lwq_laptop you know where kelly is?
06:00 Guardianzozo she dropped me off a little bit ago
06:01 Guardianzozo and on her way to her place
06:02 lwq_laptop how long does it take for her to get home?
06:04 Guardianzozo its not too far, should be back soon
06:05 lwq_laptop ok
06:08 lwq_laptop night baty
06:08 wannabe-afk right here
06:08 wannabe-afk holy crap
06:08 wannabe1987 hi zozo :D
06:09 Guardianzozo yo
06:09 wannabe1987 i made it home, last load of my laundry is in the washer, i'll switch it all tomorrow and have clean clothes for a few weeks again :D
06:09 wannabe1987 do you know if the washer/dryer comes with that house?
06:09 wannabe1987 lwq_laptop?
06:09 Guardianzozo he says it might be, i dunno
06:09 lwq_laptop hi :P
06:09 wannabe1987 ok
06:10 wannabe1987 you needed something?
06:10 lwq_laptop not really
06:10 Guardianzozo sleepy, night
06:10 lwq_laptop im like wide awake because i slept from 6-12
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06:12 wannabe1987 night
06:12 wannabe1987 lwq_laptop: why?
06:12 wannabe1987 i'm heading to sleep in a few as well....
06:12 wannabe1987 gotta fold this load of laundry tho
06:12 lwq_laptop awe damn :C
06:12 wannabe1987 dude
06:12 wannabe1987 i'm working 6 days straight
06:12 wannabe1987 i need sleep SOMEtime....
06:12 wannabe1987 normally i work 3 and get a day or two off....but nope
06:12 tehdark45 wannabe1987, nah, sleep is overrated
06:13 wannabe1987 no
06:13 wannabe1987 no its not
06:13 wannabe1987 sleep is wonderful
06:13 * tehdark45 gives wannabe1987 chlorfyl
06:13 tehdark45 did that help sleep?
06:13 tehdark45 :P
06:13 wannabe1987 no
06:13 wannabe1987 but it helped the allergies!
06:14 Cheezmo uhm, chlorophyll won't do much for sleep
06:14 Cheezmo lol
06:14 Cheezmo take an antihistamine or a hypnotic
06:14 tehdark45 AHHHH oh noes a Kelowin
06:14 Cheezmo AHHHH
06:14 Cheezmo so on tuesday I started in pharmacy tech classes
06:15 lwq_laptop wannabe, bitch please i go to school 5days a week on 3hours of sleep
06:15 Cheezmo good lord I have learned a TON
06:15 wannabe1987 yeah....you don't do much at school, no offense
06:15 lwq_laptop :P
06:15 tehdark45 Cheezmo, can you sned me drugs?
06:15 tehdark45 :P
06:15 wannabe1987 i have to lift old folk, deal with BULL SHIT, and work my fucking ASS off
06:15 Cheezmo no, but I can recommend drugs to discuss with your doctor or the pharmacist
06:15 Cheezmo herp
06:15 tehdark45 wannabe1987, you chose to do the magnets :P
06:15 wannabe1987 and if i'm low on sleep i get snippy with the old folk and thats NOT good
06:15 lwq_laptop i do all that except the old people thing in the summer
06:15 wannabe1987 i didn't do no fucking magnets
06:16 tehdark45 you said bullshit
06:16 tehdark45 aka psueo sicince
06:16 wannabe1987 yeah...bullshit at my job
06:17 lwq_laptop i laughed my ass off today, some ass was arguing with chris today that he didnt need to build a computer that good and to buy a dell that is shit
06:18 wannabe1987 http://www.sprinklebakes.com/2012/03/chocolate-chip-cookie-dough-devils-food.html  O.o
06:18 BotSteve Title: Sprinkle Bakes: Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Devil's Food Cake Cheesecake
06:19 tehdark45 but lwq_laptop dell is great
06:19 tehdark45 ...at sucking
06:20 lwq_laptop lol that went on facebook
06:20 wannabe1987 ik
06:20 wannabe1987 http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=6655
06:20 BotSteve Title: Would you still watch Twilight if...
06:21 lwq_laptop lol, i love tehdark in a non gay way
06:21 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
06:21 BotSteve Clear ☼, 35.6℉ (2℃), 30.06in (1015mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KGRR 05:53Z
06:21 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
06:21 tehdark45 you too bro
06:21 BotSteve 35 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Freezing my balls off out here'
06:21 lwq_laptop its funny how we pick on each other but still are friends
06:21 tehdark45 .tfwc surrey
06:21 BotSteve 5 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Surrey, CA!  'Where life is mediocre'
06:22 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, those are the real friends ;)
06:22 lwq_laptop i know
06:22 tehdark45 all happy fun time you are great, no you , noy YOU are all fake
06:22 lwq_laptop what!?!?!
06:23 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, like friends who never say anything bad about the other ever, is not real
06:23 lwq_laptop yeah :P
06:23 wannabe1987 ...
06:23 lwq_laptop lol there goes east gr :P
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06:24 wannabe1987 not really
06:24 lwq_laptop hi astro  :P
06:24 wannabe1987 cuz astro is 40 min away, and steve is 10 min away (from me)
06:24 Cprossu Seroster you should know better =P
06:24 lwq_laptop ah, they must run the same company
06:24 Cprossu (reading the logs of crap)
06:25 tehdark45 it is a Cprossu
06:25 tehdark45 how are those 1000A?
06:26 wannabe1987 sleepy
06:26 wannabe1987 cpro go get sleep!
06:26 Cprossu tehdark45 they wouldn't power my kvm lol
06:26 tehdark45 that is a hefty KVM you have there
06:26 tehdark45 :P
06:26 Cprossu no kiddin'
06:26 lwq_laptop anyone who tells me what am and pm stands for gets a cookie
06:27 Cprossu I am not spelling it =P
06:27 lwq_laptop i mean what they actually stand for
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06:27 tehdark45 .g am pm
06:27 BotSteve tehdark45: http://www.ampm.com/
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06:27 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Seroster Don't feed the trolls, you should know better =P
06:27 Cheezmo ante meridiem and post meridiem
06:27 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
06:28 tehdark45 how was google Cheezmo :p
06:28 * Cheezmo learned some latin for pharmacy
06:28 Cheezmo doctors use latin abbreviations in prescriptions
06:29 tehdark45 Cheezmo, have you learnt hyro-docter yet? :P
06:29 Cheezmo nop
06:30 Cprossu well I gotta get going folks later
06:30 Cheezmo we don't care about what to call the doctors, we just care about signaturas on prescriptions P:
06:30 tehdark45 cya cpro
06:30 tehdark45 Cheezmo, thats what I mean, all those crazy symbols
06:30 Cheezmo every time I see "cpro" I think cipro
06:33 tehdark45 here is an expiriment. Get a doctors notepad, put random symbols on it and see what drugs you get :P
06:33 Hackbat http://www.futurlec.com/SMD_Adapters.shtml <3
06:33 BotSteve Title: Sockets - SMD Adapters
06:33 Cprossu well at least everything was kept civilized in the forums lol
06:33 * Cprossu thinks about how fun it would be to ban facebook for a month
06:34 Hackbat 70 cents for a breakout board
06:34 Cheezmo tehdark45, that wouldn't work much
06:34 Hackbat with 4 dollars shipping on orders up to 49 dollars
06:35 Hackbat err
06:35 Hackbat 29
06:35 Hackbat but still, that's a good price
06:35 Cheezmo indeed
06:37 Cprossu $29+$4 = $33 / 41 boards = ~0.81/board
06:37 Cprossu lates
06:37 Cprossu oh and
06:38 Cprossu BotSteve: tell yNos the cobalt's seem pooched, no graphics cards I've found want to play ball
06:38 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
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06:54 lwq_laptop hi philip :P
06:56 * lwq_laptop lick wannabe-zz
06:56 wannabe-zz nope
06:56 wannabe-zz no licking of the wannabe by lee:P
06:56 lwq_laptop :(
07:00 tehdark45 lol
07:02 lwq_laptop http://nyan.cat/technyancolor.html
07:02 BotSteve Title: NON-STOP NYAN CAT!
07:08 lwq_laptop i go to bed now
07:08 lwq_laptop later tehdark45
07:08 tehdark45 earlier lwq_laptop
07:08 lwq_laptop too late to argue
07:08 lwq_laptop bye
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07:22 Electricguy honk
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07:57 Electricguy STEVE!
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09:12 mashpriborintorg hiya, yay day off
09:13 Electricguy yay
09:13 mashpriborintorg just got 17 euros form scrap yard, for 2 kilos of copper wire, 11 kilos of aluminium
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09:41 * mashpriborintorg watching the Yamaha CS-80 stuff
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10:28 Thermoelectric Synergy is so much more fun when it eats your cursor...
10:30 HighMan_Sleep lol
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11:07 lwq_laptop TEH FUCK, EVERYONES LIKING MY LINKS
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11:27 mashpriborintorg brb shopping
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11:33 Electricguy strange..
11:33 Electricguy something went bork with my mobo drivers
11:34 Electricguy winamp and other media players didn't use the soundcard in a proper way. so i only got databits outy
11:34 Electricguy had to reinstall the mobo drivers to get it to work again o_O
11:36 Electricguy derp.. it still fucks up...
11:36 Electricguy any other software that uses the soundcard works like a charm though
11:40 Experimentonomen hm
11:40 Electricguy hmmm.. winamp gets it right sometimes when i hit play... o_O
11:53 Electricguy huh.. it's the soundcard itself.. how annoying
11:54 Electricguy the onboard realtek device works like it should
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11:56 Electricguy but if i change to my other SB card i can't use my audigy drive! -,-
11:57 Experimentonomen maybe the audigy card is developing bad caps leading to the codec messing up or something
11:58 Electricguy maybe
11:58 Electricguy gonna change the card and pull the audigy drive out
11:58 Electricguy brb
12:20 Ycarene Theoretical question, what if my workplace required us to delete our facebook accounts?
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12:30 Electricguy yeppers.. something is bored with that soundcard
12:30 Electricguy the sound blaster audigy 2 ZS works like a charm
12:32 Electricguy too bad the audigy drive wont work with this card....
12:53 Seroster Is cyanoacrylate safe for wounds?
12:53 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
12:53 BotSteve At 06:27Z, Cprossu asked me to tell seroster Don't feed the trolls, you should know better =P
12:53 * angy fondles Seroster
12:53 Seroster I sliced off a piece of my finger and I want to glue the flap of skin down.
12:53 Seroster Cprossu, I have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about
12:53 angy you can do it, it's OK to use it to stitch
12:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: More or less.
12:55 Seroster Worked fine
12:55 angy it's used in surgery sometimes
12:55 angy but not the one you have :p
12:55 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, the medical ones aren't quite the same
12:55 Monkeh|Lap .. but the average tube of superglue isn't going to kill you.
12:56 angy octyl-cyanoacrylate I think
12:56 * Seroster glues his mouth shut
12:56 angy or something like that
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12:56 Seroster LIAR
12:56 Seroster *Dies*
12:56 angy Yay!
12:56 angy liver harvest time!
12:57 Monkeh|Lap angy: 2-octyl cyanoacrylate rather than ethyl
12:57 angy yeah, same only one letter changes. what can go wrong!
12:57 Monkeh|Lap The ethyl degrades faster and can be toxic (not lethally toxic, just irritant level toxic)
12:57 Monkeh|Lap .. unless you're allergic.
12:57 Monkeh|Lap Don't worry. You're probably not.
12:58 Seroster I'm going to die =D
12:58 Monkeh|Lap It's kinda like latex.
12:58 Monkeh|Lap Most people, no problem. Some people, majorly annoying rash problem.
12:58 Seroster I'm going to die FO SUE!
12:58 angy I'll take care of your body Seroster, don't worry
12:58 Monkeh|Lap A small number of people, omg I'll die problem.
12:58 Monkeh|Lap I fit into the rash area with latex, it's most annoying.
13:06 astro73|alice it's storming out; i'm secretly hoping we loose power (as unlikely as it is)
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13:08 astro73|alice also, our main management app is unhappy, which will make my job dificult
13:09 angy .cookie astro73|alice
13:09 BotSteve Here you go, astro73|alice, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
13:09 astro73|alice that bot likes oatmeal far too much
13:17 Druidic_Rifleman he does
13:17 Druidic_Rifleman botsteve do you have an oatmeal fetish
13:17 BotSteve Nope
13:17 Druidic_Rifleman and apparently he lies
13:21 Druidic_Rifleman .seen yNos
13:21 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I last saw yNos 20.14 hours ago at 2012-03-29 17:12:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:21:16 UTC
13:21 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm any one heard from him
13:22 NeWtoz well, oatmeal raisin cookies are the best kind, so it makes sense
13:22 * NeWtoz goes to bed
13:24 * Thermoelectric also goes to bed.
13:24 einball oooh fuck
13:24 einball bad day today
13:27 Druidic_Rifleman noooo
13:28 Druidic_Rifleman chocolate chip covered oreo cookies are the best
13:33 Druidic_Rifleman i want poutine should of never looked up poutini's
13:33 Druidic_Rifleman it's all yNos's fault
13:50 astro73|alice the system is crying under the load of everyone trying to get in and register
13:50 astro73|alice fall is going to be exciting
13:50 astro73|alice and by exciting, i mean "everything's on fire"
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13:58 astro73|alice oh look. our ticket system is down
13:58 astro73|alice but user management (which died before) is still up
13:59 Druidic_Rifleman work related?
14:03 astro73|alice at the helpdesk, yes
14:03 astro73|alice the amount of bork here amuses me
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14:04 killakee hi people
14:05 killakee livestream down ?
14:09 mashpriborintorg hi, no its up but nothing to see for now
14:23 astro73|alice oh hey. someone left their station unlocked.
14:23 astro73|alice i should start a tumblr of the things that get sent on unlocked workstations
14:25 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
14:27 astro73|alice last week, it was pretty princesses
14:27 astro73|alice i haven't seen this week's...
14:28 * angy got a mental image of astro73|alice in pretty princess
14:28 astro73|alice oh no, it was someone else's station
14:28 Druidic_Rifleman send the boss midget porn?
14:33 Damianz The boss might give them a promotion if he happended to be a midget.
14:33 astro73|alice he's not
14:34 angy s/n/h/ ?
14:34 angy =)
14:35 Damianz lol
14:37 Druidic_Rifleman or has a midgit fetish
14:38 Electricguy oh yes :P got cerwin vega speakers in the garage :P
14:38 wannabe-zz .weather kgrr
14:38 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 33.8℉ (1℃), 29.90in (1009mb), Freezing Rain, Mist, Moderate breeze 12kt (↑) - KGRR, 14:31Z
14:39 killakee Electricguy: nice
14:39 Electricguy yeah
14:39 killakee Electricguy: what kind ?
14:39 killakee 1515?
14:39 wannabe1987 hi killakee!
14:39 killakee :D
14:39 angy .cookie wannabe1987
14:39 Electricguy pretty small ones. only got a 10" woofer. but DAMN they sound good :P
14:39 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
14:39 killakee HI wannabe1987 :)
14:39 astro73|alice hi wannabe-zz
14:39 Electricguy Cerwin Vega U-103
14:40 wannabe1987 hi astro
14:40 wannabe1987 why is there freezing rain?  i heard thunder....
14:40 killakee Electricguy: ah i know someone that has those
14:40 astro73|alice yes
14:40 killakee they are pritty good :)
14:40 Electricguy yeah
14:40 wannabe1987 thunder and freezing rain?  moter nature *is* confused
14:40 Electricguy for 10 bucks they were totally worth it :P
14:40 Electricguy heavy as fuck to be so small
14:41 Electricguy i wanna find the technical specs on them though.. to see how much power they can take
14:41 killakee 10 buks? what the ?
14:41 killakee how ?
14:41 Electricguy yeah. they clearly didn't know what they were selling :P
14:42 killakee they can take ALOT
14:42 killakee trust me
14:42 Electricguy yes but i want to know how much..
14:42 killakee no thats clear XD
14:42 killakee me vant
14:42 killakee want
14:42 killakee i mean
14:42 astro73|alice wannabe1987: michigan
14:42 wannabe1987 yep
14:42 killakee the nigbour has 1515s and 2 kwatt mono blocks
14:42 wannabe1987 are the roads slick?
14:42 killakee XD
14:43 killakee i hate him a little
14:43 killakee :P
14:43 Electricguy how can you hate him? i would love him so much that i got to use his system :P
14:44 killakee hehe... dont want to love him ... he is not a guy i want to hang with
14:45 Electricguy lol
14:45 killakee dont want crime and drugs in my life
14:45 Electricguy these small Cerwin vegas totally kick the living shit out of the bigger pioneer boxes we have in the garage atm...
14:45 killakee have enough drama as is :P
14:45 killakee yes i know those are werry nice speakers
14:46 Electricguy yeah.. cerwin vega is a totally different class of speakers :P
14:46 killakee well when it comes to moving looooooots of air .. yes
14:47 killakee but they arrent the best HIfi sound ;)
14:47 Electricguy yeah that's kind of the main idea with a speaker... :P
14:47 killakee heh.. what abuote sound quality ?
14:47 killakee ;)
14:47 Electricguy if you are not a damn audiophile that rub your cables with snake oil and put stones on your amps, they are good :P
14:47 killakee yeah
14:48 killakee but i have heard better ... but they sure are nice speakers though
14:48 killakee and for 10 buks
14:48 killakee damn nice speakers
14:48 killakee XD
14:49 Electricguy yeah my AudioPro's sound better. but it's a totally different thing
14:49 Electricguy and the cerwin vegas are more than good enough to have in the garage :P
14:49 Electricguy and even if they aren't top of the line anymore, they are still Cerwin Vega's :P
14:51 killakee jupp they are
14:52 killakee is it the CLS-10?
14:52 Electricguy ... i already told you what model it is
14:52 killakee ah
14:52 killakee sorry
14:52 Electricguy but if you are blind... here it is.. ------------------>>>>>> Cerwin Vega HED U-103 <<<<<<-----------------------------
14:53 killakee HAHA
14:54 killakee got it
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15:19 VictrolaWax Good Afternoon
15:22 wannabe1987 .c 67*3
15:22 BotSteve 201
15:22 wannabe1987 hi VictrolaWax
15:22 VictrolaWax hi
15:31 Experimentonomen Electricguy, foam surrounds still in good shape ?
15:32 Electricguy it got rubber surrounds
15:32 Experimentonomen oki
15:32 * wannabe1987 is cold!
15:32 Electricguy or, they got rubber surrounds
15:32 * Electricguy puts a blanket over wannabe1987
15:32 Experimentonomen http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/image.php?image=2598503&amp;is_user=0 <-- these ?
15:33 Electricguy yes
15:33 Electricguy the reflex port is like 80mm diameter... XD
15:33 Electricguy big port on such a small box
15:33 Electricguy ok, nbot THAT small. they are still 10" woofs
15:34 Electricguy not*
15:34 Electricguy very easy to drive
15:34 Electricguy to a certain point..
15:35 wannabe1987 Electricguy, now i cannot see!
15:35 Electricguy our 37Watt old kenwood receiver started to clip when it got too much for it :P
15:35 wannabe1987 :P
15:35 wannabe1987 its ok.  i put my sweatshirt on....
15:35 Electricguy wannabe1987, turn it around! you got eye holes on one side :P
15:35 wannabe1987 ooooo
15:35 wannabe1987 thanks!
15:36 * wannabe1987 is a ghostie!
15:36 * Druidic_Rifleman wonders if it's medically possible to be addicted to poutine...
15:36 wannabe1987 not unless theres some ingredient in it thats a drug :P
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman taste?
15:36 Electricguy as long as you don't blend it with water and inject it i suppose it's ok...
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman does taste count as a drug....
15:36 wannabe1987 no
15:37 Electricguy oh yes! :D i got like 5 orders on their way from DX... XD
15:37 Electricguy my bikelight have been at the tollgate for almost 2 weeks now! -,-
15:37 Electricguy waiting to be sorte
15:37 Electricguy d
15:37 Druidic_Rifleman DX?
15:37 Electricguy dealextreme
15:38 Druidic_Rifleman ah
15:38 Druidic_Rifleman whats the toll gate and why did they holdyour stuff
15:38 Electricguy they have got MUCH faster with their packing and shipping. now it takes just a couple of days for the stuff to get shipped
15:38 Electricguy compared to some weeks as it was before
15:39 Electricguy they take in batches sometimes to check for drugs and stuff
15:39 Electricguy but as i haven't bought any drugs (i hope at least) and the cost is under the max limit.. it should just pass right through
15:39 Electricguy but they are SO SLOW! -,-
15:44 Druidic_Rifleman i see
15:44 Druidic_Rifleman what is tollgate though?
15:44 astro73|alice .g tollgate
15:44 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://www.warwickschools.org/tollgate/
15:44 Electricguy mailing them right now to ask WTF they are doing..
15:51 astro73|alice http://www.pearlymeadows.com/ is a real thing
15:51 BotSteve Title: Pearly Meadows - A virtual resting place for pets.
15:51 astro73|alice it's like a social network of former pet owners
15:53 astro73|alice with plots and guestbooks and ....
15:53 astro73|alice god
15:55 astro73|alice it's apparently full of australians
15:59 Seroster Lol Electricguy, DE....
15:59 Seroster Btw. SparkyProjects?
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16:00 Electricguy DE?
16:00 Seroster One of my turn indicators is borked. I got replacement for them but they are LED and the blink relay doesn't react (They do not draw enough current to make the relay pull) - Could this be solved with a resistor in paralell, and in that case, what size?
16:00 Seroster DealExtreme. Same as DX
16:01 Electricguy yeah. they are totally spelling it DE on their logo http://www.dealextreme.com/
16:01 BotSteve Title: Cool Gadgets at the Right Price - Worldwide Free Shipping - DealExtreme
16:02 SparkyProjects Seroster, yes you can, you need a resistor of the same or greater power than the original lamp, and the same resistance as the lamp
16:03 SparkyProjects Do you know the wattage of the original lamp ?
16:03 SparkyProjects And what voltage ?
16:03 Electricguy 12V i suppose
16:03 SparkyProjects I  think he's talking about his bike
16:03 Electricguy use to be 10Watts
16:03 Electricguy turn indicator on a bike?
16:04 Electricguy and if it's a motorbike/moped and it's fairly modern (90's) it also got 12V system
16:06 * wannabe1987 gets ready to go find zozo
16:06 astro73|alice is he lost?
16:06 wannabe1987 might as well be. :P
16:06 wannabe1987 he's at jeffs, i'm at my place
16:07 astro73|alice ah
16:08 SparkyProjects a 12 volt 10W lamp would need a 7.2Ohm resistor
16:08 SparkyProjects a 6 volt 10W lamp would need a 3.75 Ohm resistor
16:08 astro73|alice that's easy math, right?
16:08 astro73|alice Watts -> Amps and ohm's law
16:08 wannabe1987 no
16:09 SparkyProjects yrah, ohms law
16:10 astro73|alice V/(W/V)
16:10 astro73|alice or V*V/W
16:10 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law
16:10 BotSteve Title: Ohm's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:11 SparkyProjects actually, that article doesn't seem to show power
16:12 astro73|alice i know what it is, i just wanted to make sure i got the whole thing right
16:12 astro73|alice ohm's law is just voltage, current, and resistance
16:12 astro73|alice V=I*R
16:12 astro73|alice P = V*I
16:13 astro73|alice given V and P, what's R = V*V/P
16:13 SparkyProjects I remember the 2 ohms law triangles
16:13 SparkyProjects P/I*V and V/I*R
16:13 SparkyProjects So to convert warrs into resistance i actually do 2 equarions
16:13 SparkyProjects *watts
16:14 astro73|alice i didn't know power was part of it
16:14 astro73|alice i picture it as a circle with a t in the middle
16:14 SparkyProjects Here's something you could print out for refrence
16:14 SparkyProjects http://images.the12volt.com/12voltimages/ohmtable.gif
16:15 astro73|alice i'll just remember two equations, thanks
16:15 SparkyProjects ;)
16:16 astro73|alice i'm pretty good with basic algebra
16:16 GGR Hey all- Mitchell McCoy is in the house! You're 'tracking' The GGR from 1-2. You pick the music you want to hear. Start requesting songs now through IRC, Facebook, e-mail, or call: 616-414-0844 (phones will not open until 1:00 though)! I'll see you all at 1 on The GGR!
16:19 Damianz 1? gah I hate us vs uk time
16:20 astro73|alice 13:00 UTC-4
16:20 astro73|alice or another 40min
16:20 SparkyProjects http://www.timeticker.com
16:20 BotSteve Title: TimeTicker and the time tickers...
16:22 Damianz That's awesome.
16:23 Seroster Sorry for long delay, SparkyProjects. Cat vomit emergency =P
16:23 Seroster Yeah it's a 12v 10ish watt light, suppose the small hole mount resistors aren't an option?
16:23 Seroster Do I need two btw?
16:27 SparkyProjects You can parallel several resistors to get the same wattage and resistance
16:27 SparkyProjects You need one resisror (or stack of resistors) for each lamp
16:29 SparkyProjects But if paralleling resistors, you need to calculate the values as they would be higher for each
16:29 SparkyProjects For instance, if using 10 resistors, then you will need each to be about 72 ohms
16:31 SparkyProjects Alternately, have you got some heating element wire, use a meter to check resistance
16:34 astro73|alice power resistors aren't that expensive, are they?
16:35 Electricguy a 100 Joule pulse can do some damage.. :)
16:35 Electricguy this hole is 1mm deep http://i.imgur.com/DyuHF.jpg
16:35 Electricguy it's a alu block
16:35 SparkyProjects But he'd probably have to order them
16:35 SparkyProjects Maybe easier to change all indicator lamps, and change the flasher to a type that accepts leds
16:37 Electricguy this is epic.. the headset i ordered from DX is already shipped
16:55 GGR Just walked into the studio, I'm about to go live. You can listen LIVE on the computer, or your smartphone or iPad by using the tunein app and searching The GGR! I'll talk to you all in about 5 minutes. And, you can also start requesting your songs.......now! -Mitch
16:59 Experimentonomen g'evening mitch :)
17:03 Experimentonomen Electricguy, that crater looks deeper than 1mm
17:03 Electricguy nah it's just 1mm
17:03 astro73|alice i wonder how much of the stuff I dumped got into the station
17:03 GGR Hey emerimentormen!
17:04 astro73|alice GGR: you should play some nightwish
17:05 GGR We have nothing with nightwish, astro73, sorry!
17:06 GGR Does anyone have any exciting plans for this upcoming weekend?
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17:06 mashpriborintorg nah... however it will be my birthday on monday
17:07 Damianz Climbing and fixing my crappy webcam,video,urgh scripts if either of those are exciting.
17:07 mashpriborintorg gettin' old :'(
17:07 GGR Happy birthday, mash! - Mitch... not old... wiser! :)
17:07 mashpriborintorg thx...
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17:08 SparkyProjects Mash, you're still youg
17:08 SparkyProjects *young
17:09 mashpriborintorg I will be 37
17:09 GGR Mash... do you want to go on-the-air with me for a ltitle bit this afternoon? Give me a call into the studio... 616-414-0844. I want to talk to you for a minute!
17:09 SparkyProjects I'll be 57 this year :P
17:09 wannabe1987 I highly doubt he'd call from france....
17:09 mashpriborintorg I could but my spoken english is not good enough :p
17:10 Seroster Astro73, I have a jar of power resistors somewhere  =P
17:10 GGR It's okay! Listen in this afternoon then (I didn't know he was IRC'ng from France) -Mitch
17:11 wannabe1987 its ok Mitch....I know just about everyone country/state/location.  its called intensive research, not stalking, i swear!
17:11 wannabe1987 so mitch, what makes you so special you don't have to do boxes?
17:11 mashpriborintorg brb picking up somebody at the train station
17:12 Seroster .c 0.6*300
17:12 BotSteve 180
17:12 Seroster Waaait....
17:12 astro73|alice wannabe1987: i like this question
17:12 Seroster .c 300/0.6
17:12 BotSteve 500
17:12 Seroster Damn im stupid sometimes.
17:12 astro73|alice TGG-Zozo: you got music to sort :P
17:13 wannabe1987 zozo txt'd saying he's doing boxes....
17:13 astro73|alice clearly mitch should be, too
17:13 astro73|alice doesn't everyone do boxes?
17:13 Seroster SparkyProjects, Isn't 500turns of .6mm wire (300mm total) around a 60mm coilform a bit much?
17:13 wannabe1987 for an hour, from 1 to 2....then shit gets done
17:14 GGR I'm on-the-air every week day from 1:00-2:00 eastern!
17:14 wannabe1987 then do boxes some other time.  its fun!  you get to bond with other tgg peeps.
17:14 astro73|alice so do boxes some other time
17:14 astro73|alice it's true
17:14 astro73|alice it's team building
17:15 SparkyProjects 500 turns is nothing
17:15 SparkyProjects Did you want a shorter coil ?
17:16 astro73|alice GGR: you could always do a show from the MDH
17:16 wannabe1987 gotta pass that through some other people first....
17:17 GGR Astro73: If they tell me I'm doing a show from MDH then I do a show from MDH! That's a lot of equipment to be moving around, however!
17:18 GGR And, thanks Astro73 for the boxes suggestion.
17:21 GGR What's the weather like where you guys live? We're doing national weather at 1:30 p.m. EST. -Mitch
17:21 astro73|alice .tfw 49301
17:21 BotSteve 34 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Ada, MI!  'Put on some fucking socks.'
17:21 astro73|alice sounds right
17:22 GGR Thanks Astro73.
17:22 Experimentonomen its been snowing on and off where i live
17:23 Experimentonomen .tfwc harnosand
17:23 BotSteve 1 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Harnosand, SW!  'Wear a fucking jacket.'
17:23 GGR Oh man! That is nippy.
17:24 wannabe1987 not really....
17:24 wannabe1987 .c 1c to f
17:24 BotSteve 33.8 degrees Fahrenheit
17:24 wannabe1987 about the same as here, really
17:24 GGR It's cold and wet in Grand Rapids! Right before I went on-the-air, I could hear the rain pouring onto the roof above our studio! -Mitch
17:24 GGR I hate cold! I have the heat on ALL THE TIME!
17:24 astro73|alice at least it's not going BOOM anymore
17:25 GGR I like it when it thunderstorms at night! -Mitch
17:25 GGR No doubt - Sixteen is up next on The GGR. Playing in :25
17:25 Experimentonomen i have a stereo system capable of reporoducing thunder at lifelike levels ;)
17:27 astro73|alice nice
17:28 GGR Hey guys, National Weather comign up at 1:29:19 EST on The GGR!
17:28 GGR coming*
17:31 * mashpriborintorg is back
17:34 Seroster SparkyProjects, I dunno if I want a shorter coil, I thought the output was determined by the ammount of turns of primary to the secondary =P
17:35 Seroster How important is it to get exactly 500? (I.E do I need to count or can I just go for 30cm?)
17:35 SparkyProjects It depends on many factors, largely the power of the transformer, but also the tuning of the system
17:37 GGR What's your FAVORITE Captain's Blog?
17:37 Seroster The one where chris gets sprayed with shit.
17:38 SparkyProjects Not too important to count the turns, if they are nice and close together, just go for the 30cm, it is recommended to tap the primary at 1-2 turns, but add another turn sso you have room for tuning
17:38 Seroster Define tap? =P
17:38 astro73|alice the point where you stick the other wire on the primary
17:38 astro73|alice right?
17:38 * astro73|alice has a smrt!
17:38 GGR Do you know the date on that blog?
17:38 Seroster Cutting the pool room pipes
17:39 Seroster Bout a year old.
17:39 Seroster Nowait, 15months more or less
17:39 SparkyProjects it you have a 3 turn primary, the inner end would be common, you count 2 turns from that and connect, but that connection should be able to be moved so you can try different positions for the best arc
17:39 GGR If you can get me a date... we can air that Captain's Blog coming up at 2:00 on The GGR
17:40 Seroster Err... The joy of seeing someone getting soaked in four year old stale public pool water is kinda lost on radio... =P
17:43 GGR That's somewhat the point, lol (we try to get people to go to the Captain's Blog to see the fun)! :) It's okay, we have a Captain's Blog cued up from earlier in the month.
17:43 Seroster I don't get it.
17:44 GGR We want people listening to GGR to be "curious"
17:44 GGR I guess that's the best way of putting it.
17:45 Seroster Makes about as much sense to me as reading only the vowels from the first chapter of a book :P
17:46 GGR ...
17:46 GGR Okay.
17:46 astro73|alice that sounds amusing
17:46 Seroster Actually, it does!
17:46 GGR I just do what I'm told, and that's cuing a Captain's Blog.
17:47 astro73|alice you could always do the one with the first tour of GH5
17:47 Seroster Pick any of the old ones, they are the ones newer fans haven't seen
17:48 Seroster You could even air the first talk he did from the MDH
17:48 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM-026_wireplate.jpg << they call it a ROM.  Dremel calls it RAM.
17:48 BotSteve Title: File:IBM-026 wireplate.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes, monitor out should be analog.  The rest are 601 though, no?
17:49 GGR Captain's Blog is cued for air at 2:00 p.m. EST.
17:50 tonsofpcs note that you really only need two 601/SDI > CVBS coverters to make a CG work downstream or one CVBS > 601/SDI converter to get a working CG in-line with program.
17:50 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: more like WOPROM
17:51 tonsofpcs and you could get by with just one 601/SDI > CVBS converter with the newer chyrons by forcing a chroma background.
17:51 Seroster dr_jkl, You might want to add a little meat to the "Mission statement"
17:51 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: nah, I can make it thinner and thinner each time ;)
17:51 tonsofpcs (sure, it'd need a wear-leveling algorithm.... MEPROM?)
17:51 tonsofpcs [mechanically]
17:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the above three lines ^^ is for you
17:52 tonsofpcs [above my reply to aa]
17:52 GGR We have a Captain's Blog from May, 2011 cued up ready to go. Listen to Chris Boden coming up at 2:00 on The GGR.
17:52 tonsofpcs now to go fight with the wires i put in for wifi... two of them are providing power to the APs but the APs refuse to talk over ethernets
17:54 SparkyProjects Seroster, the flat coil is the primary, connect one end of your supply to the inner end of that coil, the other supply wire (you could use a crocodile clip) clips onto the coil somewhere between 1 and 2 turns from the inner connection, try the coil, then try moving the clip closer or further from the inner connection and see when you get the biggest arc
17:54 GGR I'm going to tape my promo for Monday's show and I think I'm going to race out of here... start the weekend early! :) Anything cool happening around Grand Rapids this weekend? -Mitch
17:56 Seroster Good way of tuning it I hear, SparkyProjects =)
17:56 SparkyProjects That's the way i did it, as i don't have a sig gen or scope
17:56 SparkyProjects I'm guessing Tesla didn't either :P
17:57 GGR If you guys want to hear today's show again later, Mitchell McCoy Today will re-air at 5:00 p.m. EST.
17:58 GGR Captain's Blog starts at 2:00:29 on The GGR!
18:02 GGR Hey guys, I'm taping my promo and I'm out for the weekend! I'll talk to you all on Monday! -Mitch
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18:26 Seroster SparkyProjects, Hm
18:26 Seroster Should the secondary start at the same level as the primary?
18:27 Seroster Should it be elevated from the board the primary will be bolted to, or flush with the surface?
18:28 SparkyProjects Most will put the primary on guides, but for your first coil it is not important
18:28 SparkyProjects The start of the secondary should be about level with the primary
18:28 Seroster What's with the few odd turns that chris always makes on his coils?
18:29 SparkyProjects If you watch the TGG vid of Trevor's coil, it looks like they groved the baseplate for the primary to sit in
18:29 Seroster Yeah.
18:29 Seroster First coil. Overkill. =P
18:29 SparkyProjects Those are just for making connections
18:30 Seroster Right =)
18:31 SparkyProjects What i would suggest is to drill 2 tiny holes in rhe ends of the coil and thread the wire in and out, that will secure the ends, then you just need tails for connecting
18:31 Seroster So, the secondary
18:32 SparkyProjects yep
18:32 Seroster One side is connected to the topload, the other side is connected to...?
18:32 Experimentonomen ground
18:32 Seroster Will that make my neighbors angry?
18:32 Experimentonomen no
18:32 Seroster Just regular ground?
18:32 Experimentonomen yes
18:32 Seroster Will that make my GFI angry?
18:32 Experimentonomen earth
18:33 Experimentonomen no
18:33 SparkyProjects the base of the secondary connects to RF earth, this is not the same as mains earth, i just put a rod in the ground
18:33 SparkyProjects Others have used mains as RF ground, but you could intriduce interference
18:34 Seroster Ah. Right
18:34 Seroster I live on the 8th floor. I can't run a dedicated RF ground.
18:34 Seroster Would the radiator work as RFG?
18:35 SparkyProjects Essentially the top load is one plate of a capacitor, the ground is the other plate
18:35 SparkyProjects the radiator should be connected to mains earth, so no, but as i said, people have used it
18:37 Seroster But the top load isnt more advanced than a beachball covered in tinfoil?
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18:38 SparkyProjects That's fine
18:38 SparkyProjects On a small coil i used a Christmas tree bauble covered in foil, the foil is the important part
18:39 Seroster rollin then
18:41 Seroster Ten turns done and my arm is tired. I'm 1/50 there!
18:41 Experimentonomen on my coils i used hdd platters :P
18:42 astro73|alice don't most people use a winder?
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18:43 Seroster For topload, Experimentonomen?
18:43 Experimentonomen yes
18:43 Seroster astro73 IM SPECIAL
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18:43 Seroster .yt special cat olympics
18:43 BotSteve Seroster: No results found for 'special cat olympics'.
18:43 Experimentonomen butr then aghain all my coild were small
18:43 Seroster Experimentonomen, this is 60*300mm
18:44 SparkyProjects1 If you're going to make a few, then a winder is a good idea, but Seroster needs to feel the pain of his first coil like the rest of us :D
18:45 SparkyProjects1 Serroster, did you use double sided tape on the core ?
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18:46 Seroster Yep
18:47 Seroster Its the kind you have to peel the secondary layer
18:47 Seroster So I cut some off and just have a bit of sticky mess exposed
18:48 SparkyProjects ah, not sure if this will work, but if you place the coil on a clean flat surface and roll it while guiding the wire on, it should make things easier, though i never tried with a tesla
18:48 Damianz Probably less messy than covering it in glue and directly setting the wire in that.
18:48 GGR Alright, here's the schedule for GGR today... 5:00 p.m.: Mitchell McCoy Today, 8:00 p.m-midnight EST: High Energy with Tommy House!
18:50 Experimentonomen i've hand wound 3-4 secondaries
18:50 tonsofpcs Any networking geniuses around?  I have a crazy issue I'm trying to figure out:
18:51 astro73|alice how crazy?
18:51 tonsofpcs Installed 8 568B<>568B drops, 5 w/ Cat5E, 3 w/Cat6 for use with passive PoE APs.  6 of them (3 ea.) work perfectly.  The remaining two (cat5E) test perfectly but for some reason the passive PoE APs will pull power but refuse to talk over them (switch link lights don't even light).  Testing has ruled out everything but the run; testing on the run has ruled out the run.  Any thoughts?
18:51 astro73|alice debugging through intimidation?
18:52 astro73|alice swap APs around until they work?
18:54 Seroster Ah, the mark of the geek.
18:54 Seroster My thumbnail got a dent in it the place I hold it against the wire
18:56 SparkyProjects Then you're doing it right ;)
18:56 mashpriborintorg new captains blog
18:56 * SparkyProjects watches
18:56 mashpriborintorg still in 360p :p
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18:57 SparkyProjects That's watchable on my 22" WS
18:58 HighMan Hi all!
19:01 Seroster 4.5/30
19:02 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: all 3 APs that I don't have connected now (I have one more AP than drop) work fine on other runs.  APs that are on other runs exhibit the same symptoms on these runs.
19:02 astro73|alice must be the run
19:03 astro73|alice there is a hole in your cable testing, or it is not the cable
19:03 tonsofpcs testing of the run shows the run to be good.
19:03 tonsofpcs Testing on the runs done with (1) simple pin/pair checking tool, (2) a TDR, and (3) 'plug one end into the switch and the other end into a computer'
19:07 astro73|alice maybe there's something about the run that the model of AP doesn't like
19:08 astro73|alice you did known-good swapping, and all pairings of APs and runs produce the same results
19:08 astro73|alice so no AP is any more faulty than the others
19:09 astro73|alice i'm assuming you don't have PoE hooked up when doing the PC testing
19:11 astro73|alice is it possible that the APs on faulty runs aren't getting enough power?
19:13 Seroster 8/30
19:17 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: sorry, i don't know anything about fancy networking. i just know troubleshooting.
19:19 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: the APs on the faulty runs are discovered by the other APs and can be reconfigured to do wireless-uplink, so they're being powered just fine...
19:19 tonsofpcs I'm wondering if somehow the power is cross-talking in, but these are not the longest runs we have on this type of cable from this same box with this equipment...
19:22 astro73|alice unless there's something environmental?
19:22 astro73|alice so the APs are talking by wireless but not ethernet
19:22 tonsofpcs yes.  They won't even light a link light on ethernet
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19:27 Seroster 13/30
19:29 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: no light at all? that's pretty weird. that would point to a cabling issue, right?
19:30 astro73|alice or there's some strong EM interference nearby
19:36 HighMan Cprossu's fapping over cisco.
19:42 lwq_laptop i just sharpened my knife
19:43 Seroster 20/30   I drew blood.
19:43 Seroster I hope my iron content is low. Lol. =)
19:43 astro73|alice you bled for this coil!
19:43 HighMan What?
19:43 HighMan What's up with the x/30
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19:46 Seroster 22*/30
19:47 HighMan ...
19:47 astro73|alice he's coiling wire
19:47 astro73|alice i think for a tesla
19:47 HighMan Ah ok!
19:47 HighMan 30 turns? That's not alot... (Diameter of the pipe?)
19:47 astro73|alice not really
19:48 * HighMan CB is funny as HELLL
19:50 mashpriborintorg yeah, Chris is not a god, but he's soporific it seems
19:51 HighMan Yep.
19:51 * HighMan Zip screws chris to a peice of plywood.
19:52 mashpriborintorg the time Batman slept will be discounted from the worktime for which he's not paid :p
19:52 Seroster SHIT.
19:52 Seroster HighMan, 30 centimeters. 500turns.
19:52 astro73|alice i got bored with CB, too long for not enough stuff
19:52 Damianz I still think the best line was "Normal people sit on the toilet reading porn, normal people don't sit on the toilet reading a cisco manual!" rofl
19:52 HighMan Seroster O_O SHIT.
19:52 HighMan mashpriborintorg xD
19:52 HighMan Damianz Yep!
19:53 Seroster SparkyProjects, I ran out of wire at 235mm
19:53 Seroster .c 235/0.6
19:53 BotSteve 391.666667
19:53 Seroster Around the 400th turn
19:53 SparkyProjects That wil be ok, just a slightly different tuning point on the primary
19:54 Seroster Less sparks eh? =P
19:54 Seroster Will it still breakout without ground nearby?
19:54 lwq_laptop hmm shannon doesnt like me carrying a knife when i go out
19:55 astro73|alice why not?
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19:55 Seroster Cleaning it, SparkyProjects. Acetone, denaturated alcohol or gasoline?
19:56 astro73|alice lwq_laptop: also, you're a pretty angry person
19:56 Seroster Gasoline might mess up the tape glue
19:56 lwq_laptop not really. she thinks i will harm myself or kill someone. i know how to protect myself and i dont pull knifes if not needed. i use my fists
19:57 Seroster Protect yourself?
19:57 Seroster Yeah. No. Bullshit.
19:57 Seroster The reason you should carry a knife is as a tool.
19:57 lwq_laptop you dont think i do?
19:58 lwq_laptop you dont think it is nessisary to protect yourself?
19:59 Seroster I think it's necessary to learn to type in your own language.
19:59 Electricguy yeah
19:59 astro73|alice lwq_laptop: what are you protecting yourself from?
20:00 lwq_laptop humans. i have to go sell chances to get the cost of my trip down and i live in a kinda of a bad area
20:06 SparkyProjects Seroster, just be sure anything you clean it with doesn't affect the enamel on the wire
20:06 SparkyProjects If you mean about cleaning the ends to make contact, scrape with a knife, or use sandpaper
20:06 SparkyProjects You may get slightly shorter arcs, but hardly noticeable
20:06 SparkyProjects If you don't have a decent RF earth, you may not get breakout
20:06 lwq_laptop wait moose was in irc? she never comes here!!!!
20:06 Electricguy in fact she does
20:06 HighMan .seen tysk
20:06 BotSteve HighMan: I last saw tysk 22.44 hours ago at 2012-03-29 21:40:47 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 20:06:57 UTC
20:07 SparkyProjects Moose was in nsfw i believe
20:07 HighMan lol
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20:07 lwq_laptop wow
20:07 Seroster I went for acetone and and have put a clearcoat on it, drying now.
20:07 astro73|alice Seroster: good job.
20:07 Seroster The spool of wire had two wires of the same diameter on it, one longer than the other. I think I got the short one.
20:07 Seroster So.... Time to repeat xD
20:08 lwq_laptop i know a little bit about robots. hmm i could help
20:08 lwq_laptop though i dont know how to make drivers
20:08 SparkyProjects If you find you have a second coil the same size, you could make a mini gemini :P
20:09 Seroster Another coilform, yeah
20:09 Seroster I got six.
20:09 Seroster How is gemini made? Out of phase, and grounds tied together?
20:10 Seroster Spacing on the secondary and ammount of turns? (I.E can I use a disc that is 30cm diameter?)
20:10 Seroster For a base^
20:10 astro73|alice i don't think they're out of phase, given the same spark gap/mmc drive them both
20:10 SparkyProjects Yeah, gemini is basically like a bipolar, but cut in half, and yeah, out of phase
20:11 Seroster How about the size?
20:11 Seroster astro73 In essence one prim runs counter clockwise and the other clockwise
20:11 Seroster (I think)
20:11 SparkyProjects astro73|alice: the primaries are in series and wired out of phase
20:11 astro73|alice SparkyProjects: oh, if you say so.
20:11 SparkyProjects Serostre, yes, sotr of
20:11 * astro73|alice knows nothing about this fancy EE
20:12 Seroster Me neither. I just make this shit up as I go along =)
20:12 Seroster SparkyProjects, Do you think the 30cm diameter base can fit the coil on it?
20:13 SparkyProjects yes, you only need 3 turns of primary, if you have to space the turns closer, that will work
20:13 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: there's plenty of EM interference nearby, that doesn't seem to be affecting the others....
20:14 SparkyProjects allow a space of at least 10mm between primary and secondary
20:14 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: do you have other PoE devices you can try?
20:15 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: they're custom passive PoE.  They just steal a dead pair and put 48V on it
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20:18 Ender Hello all
20:18 Seroster Ello ender
20:18 Ender My oscilloscope arrived :)
20:19 Gaxnys Oh, sweet. :3
20:19 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: isn't that the idea behind standard PoE?
20:19 astro73|alice power over unused cat5 lines
20:19 tonsofpcs no, standard PoE is phantom
20:19 Ender watching the captains blog with with the sound going into the scope:P
20:20 Ender Its so retro! http://www.richardsradios.co.uk/Images/pm3217.jpg
20:20 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: oh, WP reports varrying implementations. Mode B on 100Base-T uses dark lines
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20:21 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: i would suggest seeing if you can get some other device to use the drop with PoE in use
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20:26 lwq_laptop you know that circle reminds me of an aa meeting XD
20:27 tonsofpcs there's an astro alice meeting?
20:27 angy it's at astro-con
20:27 lwq_laptop lol
20:29 lwq_laptop i got to 25:50 and im laughing my ass off
20:30 Gaxnys Oh man, this episode was awesome. :D
20:30 Electricguy indeed XD
20:30 Electricguy Batman is adorable when he sleeps :P
20:30 lwq_laptop i like that lis girl shes funny :E
20:30 astro73|alice lisa? yes
20:31 lwq_laptop lis or liz if you want to be in america
20:31 lwq_laptop as in moose
20:31 Electricguy Lis is in fact moose.. :P
20:31 lwq_laptop i know
20:31 Electricguy Liz is short for elizabeth.. :P
20:31 lwq_laptop i know
20:31 angy lis is short for elisabeth as well
20:32 angy just not written the same way
20:32 Electricguy and DAMN DX have become fast to shit stuff :P
20:33 Seroster Lets see now
20:34 Seroster SparkyProjects, How about primary ending 1.5cm from start of secondary?
20:34 Seroster Or should I try to get closer to one?
20:34 SparkyProjects That's fine
20:35 lwq_laptop you know that levi just prove that there is always just one damn person that has to be different
20:35 Seroster Nvm
20:35 Seroster I needed something round and nic
20:35 Seroster e
20:35 astro73|alice ok, i'm gone!
20:36 lwq_laptop oh yeah been meaning to ask you sparky, would you help teach me about tesla coils
20:37 Damianz Asking someone called Sparky to help you in putting silly amounts of electricity though metal could end really badly.. or awesomly, depending on your point of view xD
20:37 tonsofpcs Damianz: awesomely.
20:37 lwq_laptop sparky is a old guy that knows what hes talking about
20:37 SparkyProjects In one of my vids i had a normal primary, then i decided to try an internal vertical primary, that worked too (2:40 on this vid)
20:37 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0HPZOf75k
20:37 BotSteve Title: 470 Turn small coil - YouTube
20:37 Seroster I found a cookie jar with 8cm diameter =)
20:38 SparkyProjects lwq_laptop: I may be old, but i still have plenty to learn
20:38 lwq_laptop that is true, you can infact teach a old dog, new tricks
20:39 SparkyProjects Although i knew of their existence, i only got into Tesla coils about 3 years ago
20:39 Seroster Primary spacing?
20:40 SparkyProjects about 6mm, but will work closer
20:40 SparkyProjects Just make sure you have enough space to attach the wire (croc clip etc)
20:41 Seroster Gauge?
20:41 Seroster Will any work?
20:41 Seroster And I suppose it's uninsulated wire?
20:42 SparkyProjects Yes, especially for a small coil like yours, i've used 2.5mm house wire ot 6mm house wire (that's CSA not diameter)
20:42 Seroster Heaviest I got is 1.5mm dia wire
20:42 SparkyProjects yeah, uninsulated so you can make the tap connections
20:43 Seroster .c (1.5/2)^2*pi
20:43 BotSteve 1.76714587
20:43 SparkyProjects that will work
20:43 Seroster How long ya reckon I'll need?
20:43 SparkyProjects 3 turns is about a metre
20:43 Seroster Three turns, 8cm diameter on all, 28cm times three, yeah a meter =)
20:44 SparkyProjects (that's the good thing about Teslamap, it shows you the length too)
20:44 Seroster Brb, straightening out
20:44 * SparkyProjects listens for cordless drill :D
20:46 Seroster Lol
20:46 Seroster Nah
20:46 lwq_laptop who the hell is the guy next to moose and dave
20:46 Seroster Squeak?
20:46 lwq_laptop no
20:46 SparkyProjects Aaron is all i know
20:46 lwq_laptop other side
20:47 Seroster Which end of the primary is the one I'll fiddle with, the one far from the secondary or close to?
20:48 SparkyProjects far from
20:48 SparkyProjects the close to end is permanent
20:48 SparkyProjects if using wire, you could poke that end down through the base
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20:49 Electricguy evening Chipguy :)
20:49 Chipguy evening Electricguy
20:49 Chipguy and all others
20:50 Seroster Thats exactly what i was going to do SparkyProjects =)
20:51 Seroster And Ill run the RFG under, but in another direction.
20:51 SparkyProjects yep
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20:53 lwq_laptop JEFF
20:53 lwq_laptop hi
20:54 tonsofpcs JEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAFA
20:54 * lwq_laptop facepalm
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20:54 lwq_laptop DUNHAM.COM
20:55 Seroster HA
20:56 lwq_laptop WAHOO WELDER
20:56 Seroster SparkyProjects, I found some 3mm diameter copper tube. Is that better than the 1.5mm? =)
20:57 SparkyProjects Doesn't seem to make a lot of difference personally, but yeah if you want to use it
20:57 SparkyProjects The current flows on the surface, more surface area is better
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20:58 Seroster It'll be a bitch to unkink
20:58 * Andyroo waves
20:58 Seroster I'll need to heat it, straighten it, sand it...
20:58 Seroster Yo andy
20:58 * Andyroo also particles
20:59 SparkyProjects If you have about a metre, you can stretch it out on a wood floor (preferably), and put a good flat piece of wood on top, then roll it with your weight on top
20:59 lwq_laptop hi Andyroo
21:00 SparkyProjects Hi Andy
21:00 lwq_laptop omni needs a bath
21:00 Seroster Don't want to do that to my floor SparkyProjects
21:00 Seroster I can scratch this with my nail
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21:01 Andyroo All well in here today?
21:01 lwq_laptop eh
21:02 lwq_laptop lol ssh on an ipad
21:02 Andyroo It's the 130wpm I really want to see :O
21:03 Andyroo Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxm0TN5WDQI
21:03 BotSteve Title: Jerry Lewis Typewriter - YouTube
21:03 lwq_laptop lol, i love that guy!
21:05 Andyroo Asides from that video, I have Taco's 1980s version of putting on the ritz stuck in my head. Odd evening.
21:06 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkLHUek1rY
21:06 BotSteve Title: World's fastest cup stacking champion - YouTube
21:07 Andyroo Blimey, that's... rather dexterous :O
21:07 Seroster Lol.
21:08 lwq_laptop ok, im going to go
21:08 Andyroo Fare well lwq
21:08 Seroster "I need this base to get a tiny bit higher. Shall I put wheels on it? Nah.  Bolt or something? Nah.  Put some nice metal under there? Nah... Pieces of wood? Nah....
21:09 Seroster What have I laying around?.... Err.... Soda screw on tops!"
21:09 SparkyProjects use lerf's :P
21:10 Seroster Lerfs?
21:10 Andyroo Durable and fully recycled, what more could you ask for in a make-your-base-higher operation?
21:10 SparkyProjects litte rubber feet
21:10 Seroster Andyroo, My thought exactly!
21:10 Seroster SparkyProjects, You're too fancy, man! =P
21:10 Andyroo I suppose that would make them lepfs. Little *plastic* feet :)
21:12 Andyroo Damn... Swear I heard a meow from my windowsill... But.. I'm two storeys from the ground... and there's no cats there D:
21:12 SparkyProjects I've seen cats on top of a gabled roof before, like 30  feet up
21:12 Seroster SparkyProjects, I suppose I won't kill it if I just keep adding turns until I run out of wire?
21:13 SparkyProjects On the primary ?
21:13 SparkyProjects No you won't kill it, just means you'll have more turns than you need
21:13 Seroster Better that than too few =D
21:13 SparkyProjects though it may act as an aerial to transmit interference
21:14 SparkyProjects 3 turns should be plenty according to TM
21:15 SparkyProjects in fact, acording to TM, though it says 1-2 turns, if i went by the  inductance needed, it would be about 1 1/4 turns
21:16 Seroster lol
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21:17 SparkyProjects needed is 0.3 microhenry, 1 rurn is 0.2, 2 turns is 0.6
21:17 Andyroo So that's another hour in front of youtube done and dusted... And right before it I watched an hour long Neil DeGrasse Tyson interview. Way too much time in this chair at this screen.
21:21 Seroster Lol
21:22 Seroster SparkyProjects, suggested way of making the primary stay where I want it?
21:22 Seroster Put nails down in a spiral pattern, then glue?
21:23 SparkyProjects That would work, people have used cable clips before )nails in plastic loops)
21:23 SparkyProjects Or drill holes in the board and use cotton ot string
21:24 Seroster Ha.
21:24 Seroster ZIPTIES
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21:24 SparkyProjects yep
21:24 Andyroo Cprossu: And here I thought you were only visiting - you've actually resettled to GR? Well done sir :)
21:24 Seroster Thing is those are so close and the smallest drill I have is 2.5
21:24 Seroster So... There wont be any board left.
21:25 SparkyProjects hammer nails in, if you hammer them all the way and remove them you'll have holes
21:25 SparkyProjects Or cut off the head of a nail and use as a drill :P
21:30 SparkyProjects Actually, depending on the size of your ties, if you drill a hole right below the wire, pass the end of the tie up through the hole, round the wire, and back down the same hole, the clip part will heep it in place
21:30 Electricguy DAMN cool jumping robot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4ZZQkcNEo&amp;feature=youtu.be
21:30 BotSteve Title: Sand Flea Jumping Robot - YouTube
21:30 Electricguy amazing jumps for such a small robot
21:32 Seroster Second coat on the sec
21:36 SparkyProjects Don't forget to check my setting up spark gap vid, it should help a lot
21:40 Seroster Lets see now
21:40 Seroster 4kv 4mm in air, roughly that distance between windings, three windings, 1.5kv per wind, right?
21:40 Andyroo Old cartoon, mildly topical... :D  http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/264745919_F5wCe-L-2.jpg
21:41 SparkyProjects Yeah, but the resistance is so low i don't think you'd get 1.5KV between windings
21:42 SparkyProjects HAHA andy
21:42 SparkyProjects :)
21:44 Andyroo Sparky, meaning to ask - I seem to remember talking to you about ecigs before. Do you vape?
21:44 SparkyProjects I did
21:46 SparkyProjects Was a while ago that i bought the stuff, the nocotine expired, so i didn't re-order, given up altogether
21:47 SparkyProjects nicotine lasts for about a year till expiry (if mixing your own)
21:47 Andyroo Well done on getting rid of the nicotine habit :)   I've been on e-cigs since January, and last week I started mixing my own, with 54mg fluid. Keeps the cost down so far - but I need to get my measurements right - been mixing in 2-5 ml batches, first attempt brought no effect, too little nicotine - next go gave me a headache and dizziness. Definitely trickier than the pre mixed stuff!
21:48 SparkyProjects Yeah, you have to follow the guidelines closely, my main peeve was not enough vapour, so i reduced the flavour and increased the mixer
21:50 Andyroo Aye. Also might not help I'm using separate drippers for each bottle - cap dropper for nicotine, pipette for the propylene glycol - thinking just counting drops might skew the quantities up like that
21:50 SparkyProjects I saw someone had made a mixing station, i think they used syringes on a stand (like a pub bar), but you have to work out the percentages, and you need large pipes, the juice doesn't flow through small needles (tried it)
21:51 Seroster SparkyProjects, Do you still have the e-cig?
21:51 SparkyProjects yes i do
21:51 Seroster Got like batteries and stuff too?
21:51 Seroster Mind selling them for like... 1/8th of retail? =P
21:52 SparkyProjects Andy, you should use the same type of measuring device for each, and work out the percentage rather than the drops
21:52 SparkyProjects Not selling, shipping would not be worth it
21:52 Andyroo Yup... Very unstoichiometric so far.
21:53 SparkyProjects I may go back to it in future
21:53 SparkyProjects Makes me wonder how many non-smokers took up vaping because of Chris :D
21:54 SparkyProjects Seroster, if i don't go back to vaping, i may turn the ecigs into rechargeable led torches :P
21:55 Andyroo Going for an uncharacteristically early night. G'night y'all :)
21:55 SparkyProjects Nite
21:58 Seroster SparkyProjects, Is it cruicial that it is round?
21:58 SparkyProjects Nope
21:58 Seroster Roundish spiraly will work fine?
21:58 SparkyProjects yep
21:59 SparkyProjects I would bet that you could make a square tesla and it will work :P
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22:00 Seroster SparkyProjects, Lol.
22:00 Seroster I use four points of attatchment
22:01 Seroster ANd curve them
22:01 SparkyProjects That's fine
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22:07 Seroster Got it through n through
22:07 Seroster Cant tighten the zipties, but i doubt ill have to
22:07 Seroster Gonna glue them down from the back to keep them from doing naughty stuff
22:08 SparkyProjects As long as they're held in place so they don't touch you'll be ok
22:09 SparkyProjects hotglue is your friend
22:09 Seroster Dude, they are within a .5mm margin of error
22:09 Seroster And I havent got any hotglue
22:09 Seroster So I use cyanoacrylate
22:11 SparkyProjects I almost give up with superglue, it always seems to stick my fingers and not the part :P
22:11 SparkyProjects Hotglue can be remelted when i modify stuff
22:12 SparkyProjects though if you ever buy a hotglue gun, make sure you buy plenty of sticks, you'll find many uses for it :D
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22:18 Seroster Yeah, I had one, but it died. :c
22:18 tonsofpcs hi
22:18 Seroster I like superglue because of the low warm up time =P
22:21 SparkyProjects When superglue first came out it was called 'Cyanolit', it was a small bottle, but was in a plastic pot, the lid of the pot had a tablet like thing in it to prevent it from going off
22:21 SparkyProjects If you put a pinhead size of glue on your finger and briefly touched it with your thumb (less than a second) you would pull skin off
22:21 SparkyProjects Since then they have made it much weaker
22:24 Chipguy nite all
22:25 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: you can still buy pure un-diluted cyanoacrylate superglue.
22:25 JA12 hotglue? _when_ you buy a hotglue gun, also buy hotglue that doesn't suck. idk if that exists or not but it can be worse than useless
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22:25 tonsofpcs JA12: 'bad hotglue' is normally just a gun that didn't get up to temperature.
22:26 SparkyProjects There are different types of stick, i use the multipurpose
22:26 JA12 tonsofpcs: very possible
22:26 SparkyProjects Depending on what you stick, you can heat up the part to remelt the glue to get a better bond
22:28 Seroster SparkyProjects, Wanna know how I attatch the secondary?
22:28 SparkyProjects yeah
22:29 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: Zap-A-GAP CA is the pure stuff iirc, CA+ is diluted (which makes it thicker, making it good at filling gaps), gel is even more diluted (and thicker still),  they have some other version that's between the pure CA and the CA+
22:29 Seroster Got an old plastic pill bottle that is roughly the size of my secondary inner diameter. So I bolted the lid to the base and the secondary will screw on :>
22:29 JA12 we need to find out what hotglue they use in chinese electronics factories :P
22:29 SparkyProjects Cool
22:29 JA12 they can build a new world with that glue
22:34 Electricguy ok, bedtime! night all
22:34 Seroster Cya Electricguy
22:35 Seroster SparkyProjects, I am so proud of my sparkyprojectesque solution with a pill bottle xD
22:35 SparkyProjects :)
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22:35 Seroster Isn't it what  you would do? =P
22:36 SparkyProjects Yes if that's all i had, but seeing as i have a drill press and core drills, i usually make wood discs
22:36 SparkyProjects For any discs larger than my core bits i use the router
22:38 JA12 Spargyver
22:38 JA12 :)
22:38 SparkyProjects Nah, i just have several woodworking power tools
22:40 JA12 I know. it's also hard to compete with macgyver because he can make a bomb out of a dead squirrel and a paper clip. never underestimate the power of tv
22:42 JA12 but even he can't cure an addiction with a pair of magnets
22:42 tonsofpcs sure can!
22:42 Rahlon any of the uk guys know a cheap/good supplier of plumbing supplies?
22:42 SparkyProjects A dead squirrel contains several chemicals that could be used in bomb making, but not sure if there would be enough to make a decent bomb
22:42 SparkyProjects It was thought spontaneous combustion in humans was related
22:42 tonsofpcs you put one magnet in your intestine, the other in the thing you're addicted to.  If you move too close, it hurts.
22:42 tonsofpcs Rahlon: yes.  The local plumbing supply house.
22:43 tonsofpcs oh, uk... you probably don't have those
22:43 JA12 ah
22:43 SparkyProjects Rahlon, find a company that normally supplies plumbers, though i have to wonder if they can beat B&Q prices
22:43 JA12 that's how they meant to be used then
22:44 Rahlon hmm ok, I'm basically looking into building a Mash tun for homebrewing
22:44 JA12 zerosmoke (or whatever that was) is not pseudoscience, they just have wrong instructions in the package
22:44 tonsofpcs Seroster: i didn't follow your textual description of the pill bottle solution
22:45 tonsofpcs JA12: as long as you don't let the smoke out, it's zerosmoke, no? :-p
22:45 SparkyProjects A company that supplies plumbers may give you stuff at trade price, worth asking
22:45 Seroster tonsofpcs, I got a pipe that needs to stand up on a straight surface.
22:46 Rahlon ok, I'll have a look around locally then.
22:46 SparkyProjects I don't know if Travis Perkins would unless you were a plumber
22:46 Seroster I got a pill bottle that is almost the inner diameter of said pipe
22:46 Seroster So I stuffed the bottle inside the tube and screwed the bottle lid to the flat surface
22:46 lwq_laptop who wants to buy chances for a computer? i'll pay shiping if you win it!
22:46 Seroster Which means I can unscrew the tube whenever I want to, but it is still really rigid
22:46 Seroster And insulated
22:47 lwq_laptop http://www.dailytech.com/Japanese+Make+Delicious+Nourishing+Steaks+From+Human+Feces/article21932.htm
22:47 BotSteve Title: DailyTech - Japanese Make "Delicious", Nourishing Steaks From Human Feces
22:49 Seroster Yeah, we call that fertilizer
22:49 JA12 k. I'm hungry now
22:49 lwq_laptop lol
22:49 lwq_laptop o.0 weird that makes you hungry. its human shit!
22:50 * Experimentonomen pukes
22:51 Seroster Me too
22:52 Seroster Its perfectly sterile and doesn't taste like shit.
22:52 * BatSteve elects not to click this link
22:52 Seroster Its sfw but odsd
22:52 lwq_laptop lol
22:52 Seroster Damn its hard to type with gloves.
22:52 Seroster Anyway
22:52 Seroster Imma go out with the garbage and hopefully find another variac xD
22:52 lwq_laptop i would eat it personally. though i would want a culture proving it was good and there was not bacteria
22:53 BatSteve best of luck Seroster
22:53 SparkyProjects Everyone has bacteria in their gut, you just don't want the bad ones :P
22:53 lwq_laptop go find a scrap yard if you want to find one. unless in sweden they combine them and let you throw out stuff like that
22:54 JA12 feces can contain all sorts of not so fun things
22:55 JA12 also people throw away all sorts of chemicals that doesn't belong in the sewers
22:56 JA12 so all that has to be cleaned and cleared
22:56 JA12 I'm sure there's stuff that's easier to clean and that we have plenty
22:56 JA12 like... sand
22:56 JA12 x)
22:57 lwq_laptop lol
22:57 JA12 I've made a cake out of sand
22:58 lwq_laptop how'd it tast?
22:58 JA12 I was 2 back then, I don't remember
22:58 lwq_laptop lol
23:06 Monkeh Curry and Wayne's World. What night.
23:08 SparkyProjects Good thing the wind is blowing south :P
23:09 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Nah, that's cheese and beans.
23:10 Monkeh You don't want to be in the same county as me when I mix those. :P
23:10 Seroster Nothing real fun
23:10 SparkyProjects How do i know you didn't have a cheese and bean curry ? :D
23:10 Seroster Spark plug thing from a moped
23:10 Monkeh SparkyProjects: heh
23:10 Seroster Just feed it 12v and it makes sparks?
23:11 Monkeh Now that's a weapon of mass destruction
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23:11 Monkeh Seroster: No.
23:11 Monkeh You need an ignition coil
23:11 VictrolaWax Good Evening
23:11 Seroster Yeah. That is what I got.
23:11 SparkyProjects Depends on if the spark plug thing is a potted coil
23:12 Monkeh In that case you need a spark plug :P
23:12 SparkyProjects You would need pulsed voltage to make it work
23:12 Monkeh Or a couple of wires pretty close to each other.
23:12 JA12 evening VictrolaWax
23:12 Monkeh Do be careful, that thing could put out something like 15kV.
23:14 SparkyProjects Seroster is in the middle of building his first Tesla coil
23:14 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Indeed. I expect magic smoke in great quantity.
23:14 SparkyProjects From the coil or from Seroster ? :D
23:15 Monkeh From Seroster, the coil, and everything in the immediate area. ;)
23:15 Seroster monkeh I doubt even I am stupid enough to kill mysellf with an ignition coil.
23:15 Monkeh Seroster: I didn't say it'd kill you, but it'll fucking hurt and break sensitive things.
23:15 Seroster I aint sensitive.
23:16 Seroster Trying to juggle a dozen projects tho.
23:16 Monkeh We've noticed that
23:16 Monkeh You're anti-sensitive
23:23 JA12 half a dozen bread slices and tea. that's better
23:23 Seroster Gotta make a clean spot
23:23 Seroster Then the cap bank
23:23 Seroster SparkyProjects, What are my capacitor reqs?
23:23 Seroster Btw, I suppose I can't use lytics?
23:23 SparkyProjects no, not lytics
23:24 Seroster the small 1.6kv things from TVs should work pretty well, eh? That's 4.8KV and divide capacitance by three?
23:24 SparkyProjects you need about 64nF and able to cope with more than 4KV, i would suggest at least 6KV
23:25 Seroster But then I get no fire
23:25 Seroster brb sorting caps
23:25 Monkeh Isn't 'no fire' normally considered a good thing?
23:26 SparkyProjects Except in the case of a BBQ :P
23:26 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Depends how you do a BBQ :P
23:26 Monkeh I like fire initially. I wish it to go away so I can cook.
23:26 JA12 it's 1:26 am where Seroster lives
23:27 JA12 I have a wild guess why he gets hurt alot
23:27 Monkeh People get annoyed by the sound of him blowing things up and come punch him?
23:27 JA12 nah
23:28 JA12 even smart people make mistakes when tired
23:28 SparkyProjects Smart people make mistakes when they think they are the smatest in the room :P
23:29 SparkyProjects they are the 'i know better' brigade
23:29 JA12 you're talking about me?
23:29 SparkyProjects no
23:29 Monkeh A certain Boden?
23:30 SparkyProjects no, he knows he's not as smart as others that are, he is not a god
23:30 SparkyProjects :D
23:30 SparkyProjects It's the ones with universty degrees that like to shove them in your face (had that happen years ago)
23:31 SparkyProjects then he comes and asks me for help
23:31 Monkeh hehe
23:32 JA12 speaking of which, I've found learning to be a bit counter-intuitive. the more you know, the more you are aware of things that you know nothing about
23:32 SparkyProjects He also though he had more power as he was related to a boss
23:32 SparkyProjects But i got an apology from him and peading on his knees for help in front of the manager of the site :D
23:33 SparkyProjects JA12, exactly, as i said earlier, i'm still learning, and will always listen to others input, and will admit i am wrong if proven
23:36 JA12 that tells a lot of a person
23:37 JA12 me, I'm just not happy of anything I do
23:38 SparkyProjects Be proud of anything you do, and be prepared to learn if you make a mistake, making mistakes is how many scientists got started
23:38 SparkyProjects Just hope any mistakes are not too costly :P
23:40 JA12 well here's one extreme example of what I mean: I've saved at least two lives and yet I'm more disapointed of all the mistakes I made or the things I've could have done better than I'm happy of the result. of course the result is very important and I wouldn't accept it otherwise but still..
23:44 JA12 so I don't appreciate much of all the things I know, I'm more concerned of all the things I know nothing about
23:44 SparkyProjects Young people always seem to have a negative view of themselves, sure i know i could have done things better, and if i have been criticised, i ask that they show me how to do it better so i can learn, and if that person can't show me better, then in one way i am better than them, but i don't let that go to my head.
23:45 SparkyProjects There's a lot of things i know litle about, no one can know everything, the little bit you do know should e the most important part, especially if you can pass on that knowledge to others
23:46 JA12 that I can do
23:46 Seroster Now I have two heaps of caps
23:46 Seroster one pile of 1-2kv and one pile of 2+kv.
23:46 SparkyProjects Put an arduino in front of me and i would be lost, put some transistors in front of me and i can  build a circuit
23:46 Seroster None of them are the same, still work, or is it bucket cap time?
23:47 SparkyProjects what values, or are they mixed values ?
23:47 JA12 SparkyProjects: one of the things I know is the reason why I think like that. that just doesn't make it easier, changing your thinking is very hard
23:47 Seroster Very mixed
23:47 Seroster Some dont even state farad, they say joules.
23:47 SparkyProjects See if you can make up strings of the same value, 3 or 4 to a string
23:47 Seroster 0.0043j 2.5kv
23:48 Seroster 332j 2kv
23:48 Seroster 512j 2lv
23:48 Seroster 222j 2kv
23:48 Seroster They are all... Mixed =)
23:49 Seroster They shouldnt care that they are unmatched, right?
23:49 Seroster WOuldnt the entire string just be the lowest one divided by n?
23:49 Cheezmo wat
23:49 SparkyProjects no, not if the caps are different in the string
23:49 Cheezmo it would be the inverse of the sum of all the inverses
23:50 Cheezmo (1/c)
23:50 Cheezmo also, it's not good to put unmatched caps in series
23:51 Seroster I've got 3*222j 2kv
23:51 Cheezmo well those would be fine to put any way you wish
23:52 SparkyProjects Seroster, look for capacitor markings, 'Smaller capacitors use a shorthand notation .......'
23:52 SparkyProjects That explains the J and multiplier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_capacitor
23:52 BotSteve Title: Types of capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:53 Druidic_Rifleman joined #thegeekgroup
23:53 Cheezmo if you want to be lazy... http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/capacitor-charge-calculator.php
23:53 BotSteve Title: Electronics 2000 | Capacitor Charge / Energy Calculator
23:54 Cheezmo Seroster: 222J is 111uF/2kV
23:54 Seroster Are they all I need?
23:54 SparkyProjects Was jsut going to check that site for this http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/data/itemsaf/capmarks.php
23:54 BotSteve Title: Electronics 2000 | Capacitor Markings
23:54 Cheezmo no clue, I missed everything other than putting unmatched caps in series
23:54 Cheezmo just got home, lol
23:55 Seroster tyvm Cheezmo
23:55 tonsofpcs A smart man knows not the right answer but the right man to ask.
23:56 Seroster SparkyProjects, Will 222j (2kv 111uf) work for my application?
23:56 Cheezmo well, I'm the guy to ask if you need help with drugs :B
23:56 SparkyProjects No, that's too high
23:56 Cheezmo I learned SO MUCH in only 3 days of pharmacy tech class
23:57 tonsofpcs Mr. Turtle was truly smart, we know this because he told us to ask Mr. Owl.  Mr. Owl did the research and came back with an answer ;)
23:57 Seroster That's stuff smaller than my thumb
23:57 Cheezmo thank god for amphetamines
23:57 Seroster So... How do I lower it, SparkyProjects
23:57 tonsofpcs http://youtu.be/LZ0epRjfGLw
23:57 BotSteve Title: Tootsie Pop - YouTube
23:58 Seroster .c 472/1.6
23:58 BotSteve 295
23:58 tonsofpcs .c C
23:58 SparkyProjects that 222j is 2.2nF
23:58 BotSteve 1 coulomb
23:59 tonsofpcs .c the speed of light in a vacuum
23:59 BotSteve 299 792 458 m / s
23:59 Seroster .c the speed of light in a black hole
23:59 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
23:59 Seroster =)
23:59 Seroster Good bot.
23:59 SparkyProjects Seroster ^
23:59 Seroster SparkyProjects, So....
23:59 tonsofpcs hmmm, parsing error or is that a display issue in my client? ([character after 299 shows as A-circ]
23:59 Seroster What is my goal?

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