Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-04-04

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00:00 egrsteve hello
00:01 Monkeh|Lap Hello egrsteve
00:10 exor674 is it just me or is this an actual sane idea
00:10 exor674 if you are going to print a lot number and "expiration date" on the outside of a container of solvent
00:10 exor674 that whatever ink you use shouldn't be soluble in the solvent
00:11 dr_jkl Seroster: ?
00:11 * exor674 hugs at dr_jkl
00:12 egrsteve depends on the solvent if you find a "universal solvent" maybe there is no ink that is safe from iy
00:12 egrsteve *it
00:12 exor674 egrsteve: isopropyl
00:12 exor674 I'd assume if they want it visible they could somehow make the exp date stick :P
00:13 egrsteve ya that isn't that strong, but it does work well on a lot of inks
00:14 exor674 maybe that's how the ink comes?
00:23 Monkeh|Lap exor674: It's also possible they expect a modicum of carefulness from users :P
00:23 exor674 heh :P
00:23 Monkeh|Lap (expiration date for IPA? That can't be the good stuff)
00:24 Seroster Ah, hi there dr_jkl
00:25 HighMan I did make fire!
00:25 Seroster You are a forum admin, correct?
00:25 HighMan Monkeh|Lap I made fire with psu.
00:27 Monkeh|Lap nnnnnnnnarggghhh...
00:27 Seroster Anyway, could you please try to organize the forum? Like, group similar sections.  Parting the forum main into one section for all the areas, one section for electronics, one section for physics and maths, one section for general and misc....
00:27 HighMan Monkeh|Lap :D
00:27 HighMan I also now have black crud on my test leads.... Also what made the fire from the peice of graphite?
00:27 Seroster Because that is something that I've seen on pretty much ALL forums in the world. And... I know it's fun to be different, but on the other hand few people drive their cars on square wheels.
00:28 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: Uhm, heat?
00:28 HighMan Carbon just doesn't catch on fire...
00:28 HighMan Unless it sorta vaporizes?
00:28 egrsteve I Object, there is nothing wrong with square wheels
00:28 exor674 carbon kinda stinks when being vaporized
00:29 HighMan Carbon didn't vaporize then..
00:29 exor674 some fools in my physics lab were using the lab powersupply and pieces of mechanical pencil "lead"
00:29 HighMan Same thing I did!
00:29 exor674 and sometimes sparking off the gas outlet on the desk
00:29 HighMan I need a 1 ohm resister.
00:29 HighMan Ok that's dumb.
00:29 exor674 thank frog that the global shutoff was off
00:30 HighMan XD
00:30 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: And yes, graphite will burn.
00:30 exor674 well the room shutoff at least
00:30 HighMan Well. I need more lead.
00:30 Seroster HighMan, Get some nichrome wire.
00:30 HighMan I just don't want to blow my psu :(
00:30 exor674 HighMan: they also melted a hole in a beaker that was on the desk ( that I don't think they were supposed to be playing with
00:30 exor674 and then "accidentally" broke it to hide the evidence
00:30 HighMan XD
00:30 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: Then stop doing stupid things with it!
00:30 HighMan Well I don't have other uses.
00:31 Seroster Lol
00:31 Seroster HighMan, A one ohm resistor will get very warm pretty fast.
00:31 Seroster Do you have access to junk electronics?
00:31 HighMan 12v at 19amps throught 1ohm resister, will stink room.
00:31 HighMan And no.
00:31 Seroster HighMan, you can calculate how hot the resistor will get with ohms law.
00:32 HighMan ...Ohm's law include that also?
00:32 HighMan Temperature?
00:32 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: It won't be 19A.
00:32 HighMan I thought it was volts, watts, and resistance...
00:32 Seroster 19amps through one ohm gives 19watts of heat
00:32 Seroster It is, but you can also calculate power
00:32 HighMan How do you convert 19 watts of heat in to c or f?
00:32 Seroster Err.
00:33 Monkeh|Lap By knowing the thermal dissipation of what you're working with.
00:33 HighMan ...
00:33 Monkeh|Lap Let me put it this way
00:33 Monkeh|Lap That resistor won't just burn
00:33 Monkeh|Lap It will explode.
00:33 Seroster There's probably a way including obscure maths, pi, the size of the object in kilos, the material and the alignment of the stars.
00:33 Seroster Nah
00:33 HighMan XD
00:33 HighMan AC Input (47-63Hz) 100-127V/8A DC: +5V/25A; +3.3V/18a; +5VSB/2a; +12V/19A; -12V/.8A
00:33 Monkeh|Lap And it won't be 19A or 19W.
00:34 HighMan That's the psu's rating.
00:34 Seroster HighMan, you need a power resistor. You can find them in junk electronics. they are big, white, square and ceramic
00:34 Seroster They often state on the case how many watts they can dissipate
00:34 HighMan I can buy one... But why?
00:34 Monkeh|Lap And very few are up to 12W
00:34 Seroster a 10w power resistor is about two inches long
00:34 Monkeh|Lap Well, easily found ones anyway
00:34 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: Why would you make this.. thing and then use it to start fires?
00:35 * egrsteve installs 225 watt resistors occationally
00:35 Seroster monkeh That's why you get two 10w of equal resistance =)
00:35 HighMan I did it to build it.
00:35 HighMan And for fun.
00:35 Seroster egrsteve, Hey, I installed a 1kw resistor the other week
00:35 egrsteve nice
00:35 Seroster Bot to mention I plugged in a 900w resistor just a few minutes ago
00:35 Seroster Not*
00:35 egrsteve a heater?
00:35 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: So.. heating elements. :)
00:36 Seroster Hey, I even turn on a 40w resistor when I hit the light switch =P
00:36 HighMan Ok, +5v and +3.3v shall not exceed 175W, +5v and +12v must not exceed 268w and Mac Output 300w
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00:36 egrsteve no in my case a 225 watt ohmite
00:36 egrsteve well about 6 of them
00:36 Seroster What do they do?
00:36 egrsteve dynamic brakes
00:36 Monkeh|Lap So.. heating elements. :D
00:36 Seroster So.... Heat elements 0D
00:37 egrsteve for 3 phase motor drives, so they turn motion into heat ;)
00:37 Seroster lol
00:37 Seroster Dynamic breaking is awesome
00:37 Seroster Dynamic braking is even more awesome.
00:38 HighMan ..
00:38 HighMan .
00:38 quacky zozo - will there be anymore info on the storms in dallas on the radio stream
00:42 quacky does any1 know when there will be more info on storms in dallas
00:43 quacky i have family down there
00:44 tonsofpcs quacky: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/ has a good interactive tornado coverage section
00:44 BotSteve Title: Dallas News
00:45 tonsofpcs (chat + news coverage + weather map)
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00:46 tonsofpcs hi steve, sero, monkeh, exor
00:46 quacky thank you tonsofpcs i was trying ggr b/c mitch had really good info earlier this afternoon
00:46 tonsofpcs he was just reading the nbc site, I think... he pasted a link to them in here ( nbcdfw.com maybe?)
00:46 tonsofpcs 15:10:59 < GGR> We are going to return to regular music on the stream. For continuing weather coverage, please visit: NBCDFW.com
00:47 quacky i think he interviewed the sheriff down there on the air
00:48 tonsofpcs idk, I wasn't listening, just seeing him talk in here.  TGG-ZozoAFK might know more...
00:49 quacky because i was getting really good info from mitch as he was talking and interviewing a cop down there thats just why i asked if they had more tonight
00:49 quacky do you TGG-ZozoAFK?
00:55 HighMan http://www.woodtv.com//dpp/news/local/kent_county/Lightning-hits-car-dutton-township-040312
00:55 BotSteve Title: Lightning hits car; Mom grabs son | WOOD TV8
00:55 HighMan Faraday CAge?
00:56 egrsteve TGG need to build a person sized faraday cage
00:56 egrsteve that would have made good video for the news clip
00:57 egrsteve elevate it off the floor and see the secondary bolt
00:57 Monkeh|Lap Ahh, silly people.
00:57 Monkeh|Lap Where does this idea that tyres make cars lightning proof come from?
00:58 Monkeh|Lap Tyres or no tyres, the car is still an easier path to ground than the ground next to it.
00:58 egrsteve idk, it's the fact your in a tin can
00:58 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, you're pretty much totally safe inside the car
00:58 Monkeh|Lap But the car can and will still get hit
00:58 Monkeh|Lap Planes get hit, too.
00:58 egrsteve unless it's fiberglass
00:58 Monkeh|Lap It rarely does anything more than excite the passengers
00:58 Monkeh|Lap Well, true
00:58 egrsteve but a delorian would be fine
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01:02 egrsteve http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6749695/dr-who-rpg
01:02 BotSteve Title: Dr. Who RPG - CollegeHumor Video
01:14 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGJVNxCPFY&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G29ee0f0RVAAAAAAAAAA   his shaper machine is awesome
01:14 BotSteve Title: Making an Anvil - YouTube
01:22 HighMan well... Room smells.
01:22 HighMan exor674 Yes, it does stink.
01:22 exor674 when the idiots were doing it, I had to actually walk out of the classroom
01:22 HighMan lol
01:23 exor674 because it was giving me a giant headache /o
01:23 HighMan It stinks.
01:25 exor674 I am totally amazed that nobody burnt down my school yet
01:25 exor674 with how little class control people seem to have there
01:31 lwq-school https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397269_329812503718786_100000701187051_1026320_1407899730_n.jpg
01:31 HighMan XD THEY FAILED.
01:32 HighMan They mixed up stomper with gemini with thumper I think.
01:32 * Katemonster headbutts exor674
01:32 exor674 HighMan: you expect news to have a brain?
01:32 * HighMan Turns main gas on. Ready exor674?
01:33 * exor674 hai Katemonster
01:33 HighMan XD They put them on the news for scrap metal stealers, but not for shooting huge ass lightning bolts
01:34 HighMan lwq-school Wow.... And you are in school?
01:34 lwq-school whoops
01:34 HighMan lolol
01:35 HighMan I learned my lesson. 1. I need thicker gauged test leads. 2. I need to now clean all that brown crud off the top of the PSU case. 3. It smells.
01:35 HighMan I also need the sheathing over the clips to be more heat resistant...
01:35 HighMan I can always make some...
01:36 lwq1996 dont go with plastic go with silicone
01:36 HighMan Idk what this is.
01:36 HighMan I think it is plastic xD Got it from radioshack.
01:37 HighMan http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062660
01:37 BotSteve Title: 14" (35.3cm) Insulated Test/Jumper Leads - RadioShack.com
01:39 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You around?
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Or anyone else involved in the Bodenputer project?
01:40 HighMan Check the forums.
01:40 Seroster Great series for you here HighMan
01:40 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Le4Rd7GB5A&amp;feature=relmfu
01:41 BotSteve Title: The Birth of a Sword Part 1 - YouTube
01:41 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: He can't afford it and he'd just wreck good leads.
01:41 HighMan Or I can relay a message to chris via FB.
01:41 lwq1996 true
01:41 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: If the forums were of utility to me I'd be checking, not asking Cprossu directly.
01:41 HighMan I can still relay a message.
01:41 Monkeh|Lap I don't need you to relay a message
01:41 HighMan Also, Yes I destroyed ONE wire.
01:42 HighMan Well damn it. One can't offer one's help these days without getting some shit back.
01:42 Seroster We hate you for trying HighMan
01:42 HighMan Seroster Is this some religious sword making crud?
01:42 Monkeh|Lap If it were relaying a message to someone I can't easily get in contact with myself, I'd be grateful. :P
01:42 Seroster Why can't you be an insensitive unhelpful bastard like the rest of us, HighMan?!
01:42 Monkeh|Lap If I wanted to speak to Boden directly I have a multitude of ways :P
01:42 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: :)
01:43 HighMan Ok then.
01:43 HighMan Well I have to go clean the carbon residue off my case...
01:43 HighMan And set it aside for later usage.
01:43 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: If you want decent jumper leads you have to make them yourself.
01:44 Seroster Anyway, cya =)
01:57 lwq1996 i forgot how to do averages! how can someone forget that
01:57 HighMan Back.
01:57 HighMan Add them all up then divide by how many numbers you added.
01:57 lwq1996 k
01:58 HighMan Number Set: 3 2 4 Average: 4+2+3=9, 9/3=3 3 is the average.
01:59 HighMan Wtf is this black residue that is comming of the metal case of this psu... Each time I use a sheet of paper to wipe it, the whole paper is black..
02:03 lwq1996 ok highman my grades for this class is 66,64,72. im in the 4th semester. what grade do i need to get to just be passing the class
02:04 HighMan Ok.
02:04 HighMan Do you have semester exams?
02:04 masterofmonks 90
02:04 HighMan HOW THE HELL
02:04 egrsteve 105%
02:05 HighMan How many points do you have?
02:05 egrsteve +- 50%
02:05 lwq1996 we only have finals at the end of the year
02:05 HighMan Then that's different for us.
02:05 HighMan We have semester exams after each 2 quarter (1 semester)
02:05 lwq1996 so i need a 90 to pass?
02:05 lwq1996 well this is going to be fucking hard
02:06 masterofmonks .c (90+72+64+66)/4
02:06 BotSteve 73
02:06 HighMan Florida takes the semester grades in to count, not quarter.
02:06 lwq1996 we only have one big test and thats at the end of the year
02:06 HighMan So... 40% of 1st quarter or 3rd quarter + 40% of 2nd quarter or 4th quarter + 20% of semester exam = Semester Grade. Anything that isn't an F is passing.
02:07 lwq1996 .c (89+72+64+66)/4
02:07 BotSteve 72.75
02:07 lwq1996 .c (85+72+64+66)/4
02:07 BotSteve 71.75
02:08 lwq1996 .c (80+72+66+64)/4
02:08 BotSteve 70.5
02:08 HighMan .c 89+72+64+66
02:08 BotSteve 291
02:08 HighMan .c 291/90
02:08 BotSteve 3.23333333
02:08 HighMan .c 291/400
02:09 BotSteve 0.7275
02:09 lwq1996 .c (88+66+72+64)/4
02:09 BotSteve 72.5
02:09 HighMan Hm.
02:09 HighMan You need a 109?
02:09 HighMan XD
02:09 lwq1996 .c (78+66+64+72)/4
02:09 BotSteve 70
02:10 lwq1996 so i need a minimum of a 78 this quarter
02:10 HighMan XD Trial and error.
02:10 HighMan But a D is passing?
02:10 lwq1996 70% is passing in pennsylvania
02:10 HighMan Wow. Hard asses down there lol
02:11 HighMan Curiously... What do they use? A B C D F or A B C D E
02:11 HighMan lol
02:11 lwq1996 a b c d f
02:13 HighMan Any places that still use ABCDE?
02:13 HighMan I soon plan to make another sleekier enclosure for my PSU unit...
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02:16 HighMan Night all!
02:16 HighMan lwq1996 What class is that for?
02:17 lwq1996 engrish
02:17 HighMan Wow....
02:17 lwq1996 i got to start reading my ar book
02:17 HighMan Accelerated Reading?
02:17 lwq1996 yes
02:17 HighMan I haven't used that crap in YEARS. Since like 5th grade.
02:17 lwq1996 ive had this book all year and havent read it
02:17 HighMan We abbandonded AR points and all that stuff a while ago.
02:18 lwq1996 i dont have to do it next year if i go to vo-tech
02:18 HighMan I remember it, on computers like 10 questions. Some sketchy application.
02:18 lwq1996 yeah
02:18 HighMan Ran on Classic Mac lol
02:18 lwq1996 i mean i had a book all year, its worth 6 points and not that hard and i didnt read it. i dont got a single point
02:19 HighMan I'm just amazed they actually use AR... loln
02:19 HighMan night
02:19 lwq1996 lol its kinda new here actually
02:19 HighMan lololol
02:19 lwq1996 its like 5years old
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02:33 quacky i have mitchell mccoys email address as mitchell.mccoy@thegeekgroup.org. i have a family member emailing him and wants to send the email to mitchells boss. does anyone know who his boss is and what there email address is?
02:33 quacky i think TGG-Zozo is the radio boss can you give me your email address. i need to give it to my sister in texas who is emailing mitchell and wants to copy you on it
02:33 quacky or mitchells boss?
02:34 * KB3NZQ turns 23   at 4:30 AM Eastern yea
02:35 Sgt_Lemming quacky, why do you want to email mitchells boss?
02:36 quacky my sister is sending him a email and wants to copy mitchells boss/supervisor/manager
02:36 Sgt_Lemming and really, if you want someone with responsibility at TGG to see it, send it to info@thegeekgroup.org
02:36 Sgt_Lemming yes, I get that, wondering WHY she wants to do that
02:38 quacky is that a open public email bc it only has to go to his supervisor
02:38 Sgt_Lemming it goes to a number of people at TGG
02:38 Sgt_Lemming I think you are misinterpreting how TGG is structured
02:39 Sgt_Lemming yes there are a number of people on the executive, but they really aren't supervisors or managers
02:39 quacky maybe i am confused who is his supervisor?
02:39 Sgt_Lemming and again you've told me what you want to do, I am asking why she wants to do it?
02:40 Sgt_Lemming is it a compliment or a complaint or something else?
02:41 quacky i think a thank you letter my sister is sending me a copy of it and i will post it in here
02:41 egrsteve if it is sent to info@TGG it will find it's way to the right person
02:41 Sgt_Lemming yeah, just send it to info@thegeekgroup.org
02:43 eadthem man big youtube day
02:44 eadthem nurdrage  cgpgray  photonic several times   rodalco2007 aussie50  and dactadork
02:44 eadthem all posted in a day
02:45 Sgt_Lemming what's photonics new channel?
02:46 eadthem photonvideos
02:46 eadthem photonvids
02:46 eadthem 11 videos  en total in the last day
02:47 eadthem well between the above list
02:51 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU4E6SSy5Yg&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G28e798eFUAAAAAAAIAA
02:51 BotSteve Title: Canada Gets Rid of the Penny (Huzzah!) - YouTube
02:51 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks
02:52 masterofmonks Da?
02:52 lwq1996 ta?
02:54 quacky just got the email sent to mitchel and his supervisor
02:54 quacky my sister bcc me on it
02:55 quacky good message
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03:06 quacky i can copy and paste this email for u guys sgt lemming
03:06 Sgt_Lemming it's fine
03:06 quacky o
03:06 Sgt_Lemming but telling me why you are sending it, tells me who it should go to
03:07 quacky i did not send it
03:07 Sgt_Lemming beside the point
03:16 Thermoelectric Would anyone happen to have any idea on how I could make a oil separator (air compressor)?
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03:17 lwq1996 DUCKY
03:20 astro73|alice Thermoelectric: go to an industrial junkyard with a hacksaw
03:20 Thermoelectric Bah, that's no fun.
03:26 lwq1996 .wiki inert
03:26 BotSteve "In English, to be inert is to be in a state of doing little or nothing." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert
03:27 astro73|alice really? did you need that?
03:27 lwq1996 yes
03:27 egrsteve thats a nice letter:
03:27 egrsteve "Mitchell and Geek Group:
03:27 egrsteve My name is Carry, I am a 5th grade teacher in the Rowlett School system just east of Dallas in Texas.
03:27 egrsteve My brother is a geek, he follows Geek Group quite closely including your radio show. He was listening to you on the radio today when you were talking about the storms coming through Dallas, telling listeners to take-cover now. He called me and told me that Mitchell said there was a tornado on the ground and it was heading my way.
03:28 egrsteve Thank-you again so much. Carry
03:28 egrsteve I had several students in my classroom at the time, I was able to take my students and get to shelter moments before a tornado emergency was issued I was ahead of the storm.
03:28 egrsteve The reason I send my e-mail is to thank-you for doing what you do. I am extremely grateful you were covering the storm, telling listeners to take cover if they are anywhere in the Dallas area. If you would not have been on the radio today, my students could have been seriously injured. You may have saved a life today, by just doing what you do.
03:29 CaptainNiobe wow... that *is* sweet...
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03:31 egrsteve that plus a cameo in a local news clip in GR today http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/Lightning-hits-car-dutton-township-040312
03:31 BotSteve Title: Lightning hits car; Mom grabs son | WOOD TV8
03:33 egrsteve it was good day
03:34 CaptainNiobe HA! he wore the "you're a hack" shirt! :D
03:35 CaptainNiobe and he features a stomper-bred quarter! awesome!
03:37 Thermoelectric I loved how they just merged that into the topic of lightning, good advertising.
03:38 quacky people give mitchell a hard time on here
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03:44 mccoy_saves_the_ everyone read what Chris posted as fan mail of the day?? Hip hip peeeera
03:47 Thermoelectric mccoy_saves_the_, Stick to one connection to this channel.
03:48 Thermoelectric Thanks, quacky.
03:48 quacky how do i change my name?
03:48 astro73|alice /nick
03:48 quacky thank u
03:49 quacky MCCOYSAVESTHEDAY/nick
03:49 quacky it did not work
03:49 quacky ha
03:49 CaptainNiobe type /nick name
03:50 CaptainNiobe :)
03:50 MCCOYSAVESDAY there we go! thanks ha
03:50 CaptainNiobe welcome :)
03:51 MCCOYSAVESDAY people are quiet tonight
03:51 astro73|alice it's IRC
03:51 astro73|alice it happens
03:51 astro73|alice it's called deadspots
03:52 astro73|alice you lurk until something interesting happens
03:52 * Katemonster is a deadspot
03:52 Monkeh|Lap Thermoelectric: B-b-b-but I like having two connections. :P
03:52 astro73|alice and when it's guns instead of games, you just keep quiet
03:52 * Katemonster rolls eyes
03:52 CaptainNiobe two different machines, Monkeh|Lap :P
03:52 MCCOYSAVESDAY what do u mean guns instead of games
03:52 Thermoelectric Monkeh|Lap, it's not a problem when they're variants of the same nick.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap I know, I'm just being annoying
03:52 astro73|alice i mean sometimes we talk games
03:52 astro73|alice and sometimes we talk guns
03:53 Monkeh|Lap Trying to distract myself from this book so I can go to sleep
03:53 Monkeh|Lap But it's too good
03:53 Katemonster we try not to talk about guns.
03:53 MCCOYSAVESDAY oh ok ok ha thanks
03:53 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: But I like guns.
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03:53 astro73|alice hi wannabe1987
03:53 Monkeh|Lap I kinda want a P220.
03:53 astro73|alice we're instructing MCCOYSAVESDAY on IRC
03:53 Katemonster i don't.  i hate guns, and i'm sick of hearing about them.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Just a tool.
03:54 astro73|alice yup. right.
03:54 CaptainNiobe lee and druid :P
03:54 MCCOYSAVESDAY yes. what should i have for dinner
03:54 astro73|alice guns are aweful
03:54 Katemonster tools of DEATH.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Tools of punching holes in pieces of paper.
03:54 astro73|alice MCCOYSAVESDAY: dihydrogen monoxide
03:54 * Katemonster is trolling.
03:54 * Katemonster is also a gunsmith.
03:55 MCCOYSAVESDAY thanks
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, I kinda figured :P
03:55 astro73|alice Katemonster: that's like explaining the joke
03:55 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, heading to the space in a few minutes, but only gonna be there for about 20minutes
03:55 Katemonster i didn't want to drag it out longer, nor did i want monkeh to hate me.
03:55 CaptainNiobe you need me there for anything, Sgt_Lemming?
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03:55 Sgt_Lemming no
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: People are entitled to their opinions. :P
03:55 wannabe1987 who is MCCOYSAVESDAY?
03:55 Katemonster oh look the annoyance is here
03:55 * Monkeh|Lap has a serious hardon for Sigs lately
03:55 Sgt_Lemming just letting you know in case you needed something
03:56 MCCOYSAVESDAY i like listening to his show at work and he talks about irc a lot so i have talked on here a few times
03:56 CaptainNiobe am i forgetting something? other than apologising for not going up last night? (dunno what the hell woke me up :-\)
03:56 Sgt_Lemming no
03:57 Sgt_Lemming stop being paranoid :-P
03:57 Katemonster i do get tired of *talking* about guns though, particularly here, and particularly with druidic.
03:57 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: Yes, he can get... tiring.
03:57 Sgt_Lemming heh Katemonster
03:57 * Katemonster pokes CaptainNiobe
03:57 Sgt_Lemming been watching Top Shot Katemonster?
03:57 Katemonster don't have TV
03:57 CaptainNiobe bite meh :P
03:57 CaptainNiobe but i do know something... that... thing... i need to take a photo for for Monkeh|Lap, i keep forgetting...
03:57 CaptainNiobe and hey Katemonster :) long time, no speak
03:57 Katemonster and what little of that show i've seen looked... trite.
03:57 Sgt_Lemming that's what the bay of pirates is for
03:58 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: It's.. well, american TV.
03:58 Sgt_Lemming yeah, it's very much a typical reality tv show
03:58 Monkeh|Lap There's some half decent shooting in it
03:58 Monkeh|Lap There's also some pretty impressive fail in a few places.
03:58 Sgt_Lemming but some of the marksmanship is impressive
03:58 astro73|alice that sounds like a 5min youtube, not a 45min show
03:58 * Katemonster hasn't watched reality TV since they took scrapyard/junkyard wars off the air
03:58 MCCOYSAVESDAY talk to u all tomorrow
03:58 CaptainNiobe later MCCOYSAVESDAY
03:58 Katemonster bye
03:58 Monkeh|Lap I only watched the first season to see all the yanks get spanked by a real shooter. :P
03:59 CaptainNiobe lemming, i'll meet you up there... :)
03:59 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: You might find Unchained Reaction interesting.
03:59 astro73|alice i watch 3 shows: Once Upon a Time, Castle, Warehouse 13
03:59 * Katemonster shrugs
03:59 Katemonster i prefer my entertainment to be interactive
03:59 * CaptainNiobe has no plans to get on irc for being at the space such a short time
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04:00 astro73|alice Katemonster: me too
04:00 wannabe1987 hi
04:00 wannabe1987 hi astro73
04:00 astro73|alice hi wannabe1987
04:00 Katemonster ...so who's the noob?
04:01 Sgt_Lemming I'm heading off now, I'll be there about 3 CaptainNiobe
04:02 astro73|alice Katemonster: highman? a n00b
04:03 CaptainNiobe ok lem, see you then
04:03 astro73|alice mccoy? some guy that was convinced that mitch does GGR on contract
04:03 wannabe1987 lol
04:04 Katemonster ...i was referring to McCoySavesDay
04:04 Katemonster ah
04:06 astro73|alice yeah
04:06 astro73|alice http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/2012-03-29#i_5367666
04:06 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-29
04:07 wannabe1987 missed you at dance tonight, astro.
04:07 BatSteve hi Katemonster
04:07 wannabe1987 bats!
04:08 BatSteve junkyard wars was FANTASTIC
04:08 Katemonster hi steve
04:08 lwq1996 wait they still have that show on?
04:08 BatSteve no, it was fantastic when it was on
04:09 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: pffft, Scrapheap Challenge.
04:09 astro73|alice wannabe1987: sorry, maybe i'll make an appearance again sometime
04:09 lwq1996 oh, yeah i loved that show
04:09 wannabe1987 ok :)
04:10 astro73|alice also, mccoy/quaky amuses me with his not understanding
04:11 wannabe1987 lol
04:17 Guardianzozo read that log.... hes a moron
04:19 * Thermoelectric ponders if there will be many coalescers on the scrap heap here....
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04:20 LemPhone sigh, stupid bus is late, then a woman who barely speaks english gets on with 6 kids and pays with a $50 note
04:21 Thermoelectric Public transport always has its moments...
04:21 LemPhone yes, yes it does
04:21 LemPhone left my bike at the space last night because I'm not in condition to ride the 15km home atm
04:22 wannabe1987 lwq1996
04:22 lwq1996 yes?
04:22 wannabe1987 you were looking for me
04:22 lwq1996 no
04:23 wannabe1987 o
04:23 wannabe1987 apparently the log said you were.  ok
04:29 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_h2AjJaMw&amp;feature=related
04:29 BotSteve Title: Tower Climbers working - YouTube
04:31 astro73|alice oh god, i've seen that
04:31 LemPhone ....?
04:32 astro73|alice it's a first-person view of a guy climbing to 1700 feet
04:32 astro73|alice and i don't like heights
04:32 wannabe1987 o.  :/
04:33 Guardianzozo i love that video
04:33 Guardianzozo you feel odd watching it on a big screen
04:33 MoxieMike it still creeps me out
04:34 astro73|alice like, i don't lean over railings
04:34 Guardianzozo all that climbing to change a light bulb also
04:34 astro73|alice and i hate scaffolds, scissor lifts, etc
04:34 Guardianzozo astro, i know what you mean im the same way
04:34 lwq1996 lol. would be a bitch if you forgot your tools
04:35 Guardianzozo lol
04:35 lwq1996 i would never be able to do that
04:36 lwq1996 i would shit myself
04:37 exor674 or dropped your tools
04:37 astro73|alice i actually love harnesses and small wall climbs
04:37 exor674 would both suck for you
04:37 exor674 and whoeverwas under you
04:37 astro73|alice but you always feel that pull, too
04:37 wannabe1987 lol dredre, tools would be tied onto you, i'm sure
04:37 lwq1996 think of the poor fuckers that had to put that together
04:38 astro73|alice i'd rather not, thanks
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04:48 wannabe1987 hiccups for the third time today....
04:49 exor674 BOO
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05:09 NiobeHSBNE g'day, people
05:10 NiobeHSBNE what, has everyone gone to bed already? :D
05:10 lwq1996 hsbne?
05:12 astro73|alice .g HSBNE
05:12 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://www.hsbne.org/
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05:14 lwq1996 anyone know why the aprils fools day video was pulled down?
05:20 wannabe1987 no
05:23 Thermoelectric Which one was that?
05:23 wannabe-zz bloopers
05:23 lwq1996 it was the bloopers reel
05:23 Thermoelectric Ah.
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05:38 Toastdude Hi
05:41 lwq1996 hi
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05:43 gentleman^rogue hi all
05:43 lwq1996 hello
05:43 gentleman^rogue need  help, anyone  here?
05:43 gentleman^rogue hi lwg
05:43 astro73|alice what kind of help?
05:43 lwq1996 um basicly everyones asleep
05:43 gentleman^rogue dunno, I'm in the  wrong  channel, i  think
05:43 lwq1996 there is a few
05:44 lwq1996 what channel you looking for?
05:44 gentleman^rogue sighs,  so  what I do?
05:44 gentleman^rogue dunno, i  think  newbies, I'm in free node
05:44 lwq1996 lol
05:44 lwq1996 everyone does that at one time or another
05:44 gentleman^rogue grins  that  funny?
05:45 gentleman^rogue ok, gonna  help?
05:45 lwq1996 yes. what channel you want to go to though?
05:45 lwq1996 this is thegeekgroup's irc
05:45 gentleman^rogue i  think newbies
05:45 gentleman^rogue i  know
05:45 lwq1996 you want to go to the channel newbies?
05:46 gentleman^rogue yes  please, once  i  know  how  to change, I'll eventually  get  where I want  to  go
05:46 lwq1996 if you want to go to another channel. do this
05:46 gentleman^rogue yes
05:47 lwq1996 "/join #*your channel name here*"
05:47 gentleman^rogue ty
05:47 gentleman^rogue wont  forget  you iwq
05:47 lwq1996 lol. come back again if your a geek ;)
05:47 gentleman^rogue geek later,   lost  right  now
05:48 lwq1996 lol
05:48 gentleman^rogue sighs,  no, lost  my  channel I  guess
05:48 lwq1996 what was the name of your channel?
05:48 gentleman^rogue goota  get  outta freenode
05:49 lwq1996 you using a chat client?
05:49 gentleman^rogue honestly dont  know
05:49 gentleman^rogue whats  that  mean?
05:49 lwq1996 are you using a program to talk to people or is it on the internet?
05:49 lwq1996 is it in a program or is it in an internet browser
05:49 gentleman^rogue not  lieing, i dont  know
05:50 gentleman^rogue looks  like  a  channel  to me
05:50 gentleman^rogue wait
05:50 lwq1996 are you on a website?
05:50 gentleman^rogue i  look  like  i know  what  I'm talking  about?
05:50 gentleman^rogue mirc?
05:50 lwq1996 OH YOUR USING A CLIENT
05:51 gentleman^rogue as  you say
05:51 lwq1996 yeah do you want to go to another server?
05:51 gentleman^rogue better  way  to do this?
05:51 gentleman^rogue shrugs
05:51 lwq1996 not really
05:51 gentleman^rogue gawd
05:52 gentleman^rogue i  suck
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05:53 lwq1996 ok. little info. freenode is a server and #thegeekgroup is a channel within the server. there a plenty of server. you may have a server list in mirc, and also maybe a channel list
05:53 lwq1996 have you ever used the irc before?
05:54 lwq1996 astro73|alice: if he comes back can you help him?
05:54 astro73|alice sure
05:55 lwq1996 thank you. i bearly know how to use irc :P
05:56 astro73|alice also, google is your friend
05:56 einball_ g'morning
05:56 Toastdude Hello einball_
05:57 * einball_ is trollfree today
06:01 lwq1996 lol
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06:08 Electricguy morninf
06:08 Electricguy morning*
06:08 lwq1996 hi philip :D
06:08 Electricguy hi, LEE.
06:08 lwq1996 lol
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06:37 Toastdude Now to bury myself in python...
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06:41 lwq1996 toastdude you off for easter break?
06:41 Toastdude Yep
06:41 lwq1996 i get off tomorrow
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07:12 lwq1996 night guys im going to bed
07:12 lwq1996 night toastdude
07:12 Toastdude Night Lee
07:13 angy Morning toasty :)
07:19 Electricguy this mornings little Arduino project :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-67u3qFFCk
07:19 BotSteve Title: Wireless Arduino LCD thermometer - YouTube
07:27 Electricguy HAHAHA XD http://i41.tinypic.com/2e0oaoo.png
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07:55 CaptainNiobe i are back home now... :)
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07:56 CaptainNiobe hey LemLap :)
07:56 Electricguy hey hey CaptainNiobe :)
07:57 CaptainNiobe g'day, eg, wassup?
07:58 Electricguy watching a video about some guys building a updated version of the V2 rocket motor :)
07:58 Electricguy and you?
07:58 LemLap link Electricguy?
07:58 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqASqda0ylc
07:58 BotSteve Title: TM65 Liquid Propellant Rocket Engine - Episode 1.wmv - YouTube
07:58 Electricguy some guys in copenhagen
07:59 Electricguy approx thrust is going to be around 200,000 horsepower
07:59 CaptainNiobe monks sent me a handwritten letter, i just read it again... *huggles masterofmonks* let's just say... HE'S ALWAYS 'ROMANTISIZING' ME! :D it's sweet...
08:00 Electricguy aww :D
08:00 Electricguy handwritten letters are always fun :D
08:01 CaptainNiobe htey are, but my handwriting stinks, so... can't really write one in reply :-\
08:01 CaptainNiobe they*
08:01 Electricguy awe
08:01 Electricguy yeah my handwriting is rather shitty too XD
08:01 Electricguy sadly
08:02 CaptainNiobe i think it's more to do with tody's technoogy than anything else though... most of anything that can be written is usually typed, so the skill isn't there anymore...
08:03 LemLap I learned to write probably 10 years before computers became common place, and I still suck at it
08:03 Electricguy same here :P
08:03 LemLap <--- Specific Learning Disorder of Written Expression
08:03 LemLap alongside Non-Verbal Learning Disorder
08:04 CaptainNiobe roughly the same, lem, and i had prep (lived in victoria 'til i was 7), then skipped year 2 i think here in queensland because back then, qld didn't have prep
08:05 LemLap yeah, I started scool a yearly earlier than most people, because in NZ you start the year you turn 5... and my birthday is november 6
08:05 LemLap so 12 weeks after my fourth birthday I was in year 1
08:06 LemLap then I went to germany for 8 months in year 7, came back and they stuck me straight into grade 9
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08:06 LemLap I finished grade 12 2 weeks after my 16th birthday
08:06 CaptainNiobe i was 5 when i started school, i still have a photo of me in this flowery little dress and - of all things - a quantas bag/suitcase-y thing, but it was to prep the first year, so...
08:07 LemLap lol
08:07 CaptainNiobe i don't remember if it was 1985 i started school or 1986
08:07 LemLap sigh, god the net here is shit
08:07 LemLap I need to get my 3g modem going again
08:07 LemLap it's sooo slow
08:08 LemLap oh well, half hour or so and I can go jump on a train home
08:08 CaptainNiobe heheh... you just took one apart and put it back together at hsbne :P
08:08 LemLap with no sim card and not battery powered...
08:08 LemLap mine has a sim card, and is battery powered, I just need to recharge the prepaid sim in it
08:09 CaptainNiobe oh... oops :-\ *feels like a dunce - nothing unusual* :D
08:11 LemLap s'ok, just gives me more ammo to burn you with later
08:11 * LemLap reloads his punazine
08:11 CaptainNiobe ... *hides*
08:12 LemLap http://amultiverse.com/files/comics/2012-04-02-Treebeard.png
08:13 * CaptainNiobe cracks up laughing
08:15 * LemLap nods
08:15 LemLap I just cracked up laughing in the middle of the edge, getting some funny looks
08:35 Electricguy HAHA XD
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09:05 LemPhone ...?
09:05 LemPhone wtf did mom do?
09:05 Damianz o.0
09:05 LemPhone in the topic
09:06 Thermoelectric He made someone spit/sneeze milk onto their monitor.
09:07 LemPhone rofl
09:08 LemPhone that's pretty well done, and one very fscked monitor
09:10 CaptainNiobe LemPhone: https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/139
09:10 BotSteve Title: Issue #139: Implement property damage counter · Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve · GitHub
09:10 LemPhone lol
09:10 CaptainNiobe that link is what happened and why the topic is what it is lol
09:11 LemPhone I busted some guys rear view on the way to the edge
09:11 CaptainNiobe O.O how?
09:11 LemPhone he tried to cut me off, my handle clipped his rear view mirror and smashed
09:11 LemPhone it*
09:11 CaptainNiobe :-\
09:11 LemPhone I just kept riding cause it was his own damned fault
09:11 CaptainNiobe sounds like he deserved it
09:12 LemPhone he did, he obviously wasn't using it, so he obviously doesn't need it
09:12 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! good reasoning! :D
09:13 LemPhone one of my mates who is a bicycle courier actively snaps peoples mirrors off if they cut him off badly
09:14 CaptainNiobe see, i couldn't do that... but then, i don't ride on the road if i can help it (well, i don't ride at all atm, but that's not the point :P)
09:14 LemPhone yes, we need to get your bike fixed up
09:14 LemPhone what does it need atm?
09:16 CaptainNiobe agreed... need better... everything... lol
09:16 CaptainNiobe main issue is i thiink just tubes, but i'll need to check the chain again - last time i did a little work on it i went through half a can of wd40 unlocking frozen links
09:16 LemPhone I have a few spare tubes, what size are your tyres
09:16 LemPhone should be written on them
09:17 LemPhone like 26x1.9
09:17 LemPhone like my skinny ones are 26x1.5
09:17 LemPhone oops bbiab, riding home
09:17 CaptainNiobe i no longer have a clue... it's a mountain bike, standard width tyres, but idk if it's diameter...
09:17 CaptainNiobe damnit
09:20 Damianz Damn, that reminds me I need to get some tubes before swapping my tyers over D:
09:20 CaptainNiobe i've needed new tubes for a few years lol
09:21 Damianz For the last year or so my road bike will be flat after 5mile or so... which makes 8miles to work interesting lol
09:22 CaptainNiobe and hard work lol
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09:51 HighMan morning
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09:54 CaptainNiobe evening, HighMan :D
09:54 HighMan :D
09:57 Experimentonomen g'day miss niobe
09:59 CaptainNiobe g'day, Experimentonomen :)
09:59 CaptainNiobe and i reckon next year sometime it will be mrs niobe to you :P
10:00 Experimentonomen hm
10:02 Electricguy http://cdn.humorswitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/angrycats.jpg
10:03 HighMan XD
10:09 JA12 then, angry dogs, wolves, hyenas, human, chuck norris
10:19 * Experimentonomen listens to modules on modplug player :P
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10:29 Experimentonomen bbl
10:44 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, if it's a mountain bike it should be 26"
10:44 Sgt_Lemming a 2.2" tube is a "standard" size, so it should work
10:44 CaptainNiobe it sounds about right, lem... want me to wheel it up tomorrow so you can see?
10:45 Sgt_Lemming sure, if your chain has frozen links it's probably worth replacing it
10:45 CaptainNiobe it HAD frozen links, may do again, but might be ok
10:45 Sgt_Lemming a new chain is pretty cheap, even my high end chains are only about $80, cheap chains are like $15 - $20
10:46 CaptainNiobe well, i'm not sure i want to spend a lot of money on this bike, it cost like $250 from kmart
10:47 HighMan They got k-mart in aussie?
10:47 Sgt_Lemming I'm not suggesting you buy a shimano yemaya chain for it, just a cheap chain
10:47 HighMan Where ever you live that is... lol
10:47 Sgt_Lemming yes HighMan, that's why she said it
10:47 HighMan Do they have... Walmart? xD
10:47 * CaptainNiobe facepalms
10:48 Sgt_Lemming no
10:48 CaptainNiobe no
10:48 HighMan ...What's a big brand store there then lol
10:48 CaptainNiobe kmart
10:48 CaptainNiobe :P
10:48 HighMan xD
10:48 Sgt_Lemming kmart, target, big w, coles, woolworths, myers, david jones and harris scarfe are the department store chains here
10:49 HighMan Lowes? Radioshack? HomeDepot? Sears? Macy?
10:49 * HighMan Back to hw...
10:49 CaptainNiobe myers and david jones are pretty high-end though
10:49 Sgt_Lemming nope, had a version of it but it's gone, nope, nope and nope
10:50 CaptainNiobe i thought we had lowes, just not the american version of lowes...
10:50 Sgt_Lemming lowes here is nothing to do with lowes in the usa
10:50 Sgt_Lemming and it's dying afaik
10:50 CaptainNiobe cheap clothing chain
10:50 HighMan lol
10:51 CaptainNiobe doesn't surprise me, ads were pretty shithouse...
10:51 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes they were
10:51 Sgt_Lemming I've bought a few things from there, but only as a last resort normally
10:52 HighMan Bestbuy?
10:52 CaptainNiobe i... THINK i've bought from lows... :-\ but it's like best&less, low quality clothing that doesnn't last long...
10:52 CaptainNiobe lowes*
10:52 Sgt_Lemming HighMan, there is some scuttle butt about them starting here, but nothing official so far
10:53 HighMan Ah ok
10:54 CaptainNiobe oh my god... now my mind is stuck on the target jingle... GRRRR!!!
10:55 Sgt_Lemming see, this is yet another reason I don't watch tv
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10:57 CaptainNiobe but ads like this i always found creative:
10:57 CaptainNiobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXJ41BuKCOQ
10:57 BotSteve Title: Target Bras Television commercial - YouTube
10:57 * lwq_laptop hugs CaptainNiobe
10:57 CaptainNiobe g'day lee... glad to see you found hsbne :P
10:57 lwq_laptop not really. i didnt look at the site
10:58 CaptainNiobe awww... you mighta seen me and lem on the webcam! :D
10:58 lwq_laptop nope. kinda no :/ sorry
10:58 CaptainNiobe awww... :D
10:59 lwq_laptop why the fuck am i getting these massive head aches. ive never had them before in my entire life!!!!!!!!11
10:59 HighMan So... What are electronic stores?
10:59 CaptainNiobe not enough water?
10:59 lwq_laptop highman. radioshack
10:59 HighMan In aussie -_-
11:00 HighMan Excedrin.
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11:01 lwq_laptop .seen hhrlisa
11:01 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw hhrlisa 14.07 hours ago at 2012-04-03 20:57:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 11:01:25 UTC
11:05 CaptainNiobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQnjMTA_II&amp;feature=related
11:05 CaptainNiobe should be the aussie national anthem :D
11:05 BotSteve Title: Australian song: I am Australian /We are Australian - YouTube
11:09 CaptainNiobe we are one, but we are many
11:09 CaptainNiobe and from all the lands on earth we come
11:09 CaptainNiobe we share a dream, and sing with one voice
11:09 CaptainNiobe i am, you are, we are australian
11:09 HighMan ...
11:09 HighMan Except for I am. ET.
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11:10 HighMan_Escuela Adios all!
11:10 CaptainNiobe later hy
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11:26 mashpriborintorg hia
11:44 Electricguy ok, i solved the problem with the lack of a 5V output on the toshiba libretto! :D
11:44 Electricguy mod an old PCMCIA modem! :D
11:45 Electricguy put a female pin header in place of the dongle connector
11:49 mashpriborintorg warranty will not work anymore :p
11:50 mashpriborintorg I can't find the demo sketch for the newer version of Dangershield, including a capacitive sensor instead of knock sensor
11:50 mashpriborintorg it's the old sketch they give everywxhere
11:51 Electricguy fuck it doesn't work...
11:51 Electricguy the computer seem to want a answer back from the card to fully enable the 5V out
11:52 Electricguy cause it turns on for like 2 seconds and then off again
11:52 Electricguy damn.. would have been a very nice adapter...
11:52 Electricguy cause a femaly header fits PERFECTLY in the metal body from the old jack
11:53 Electricguy then i guess i have to modify the dock after all
11:53 Electricguy but there is no good way to mount a DC jack or similar in it..
11:54 mashpriborintorg yeah, they did not think about your needs while making the Toshiba :p
11:55 Electricguy they should have..
11:55 mashpriborintorg brb, garbage hunting
11:55 Electricguy what's sad and also weird is that it got no PS/2 port either...
11:55 Electricguy however, the bigger desktop type dock got PS/2 and other fun ports..
12:08 Sgt_Lemming god dave from EEVblog says "and" "um" and "er" a lot
12:08 Sgt_Lemming one of the things that shits me about his videos
12:08 Electricguy lol XD
12:09 Electricguy one other thing is that he appears to know a LOT.ö but if you really pay attention to what he says and how the video is cut it tells another story :P
12:10 Sgt_Lemming some of his videos are very informative, other ones are just crap
12:10 Electricguy yeah
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12:38 mashpriborintorg just found a kitchen appliance motor for copper stripping.... ok second round
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12:57 Experimentonomen back
12:58 * Experimentonomen thinks he saw a Toshiba T5100 at thelocal Erikshjälpen today during the studyvisit tour with the local jobcentre
13:01 mashpriborintorg I have something cool, somewhere
13:02 Experimentonomen mash, your mere existance is cool ;)
13:02 mashpriborintorg it's a pacemaker programmer device, made on the basis of an old HP laptop, with basic lcd display
13:02 mashpriborintorg comes in an aluminium suitcase with printrer and all embedded
13:03 mashpriborintorg it uses some kind of rfid for talking to the pacemaker
13:05 mashpriborintorg photos of it are on my to do list
13:05 Experimentonomen just a wireless connection similar to bluetooth and such
13:06 mashpriborintorg yeah, coil antenna
13:08 Experimentonomen rfid is just a resonant circuit whose resonant frequency is translated into a digital code
13:11 mashpriborintorg stripping this motor was a 0.5 beer long work :p
13:12 CaptainNiobe that's lame, mashpriborintorg :P
13:14 mashpriborintorg nah it's kinda fast for stripping a motor
13:14 CaptainNiobe Experimentonomen, we use rfid tags for door controllers, they open the main rollerdoor and the door to the main workshop area at hsbne... each tag has their own id, and it's logged who comes in, when...
13:14 CaptainNiobe and mashpriborintorg, i mean it should have taken 2 beers... :D
13:15 mashpriborintorg yeah, I need to find a bigger scrap motor now
13:18 Experimentonomen mash, u junkin motors fer copper ?
13:18 mashpriborintorg sometimes, when I happen to find one
13:19 mashpriborintorg my lattest junk metal haul was 17 euro at the scrap yard, it's just some pocket money
13:20 mashpriborintorg I'm becoming pretty efficient with motors and transformers tho
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13:37 * mashpriborintorg nerdgasm: http://youtu.be/fcoR8plMMK8
13:37 BotSteve Title: Antique Decca navigation control panel teardown - YouTube
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13:52 Experimentonomen eeeek everybody RUN!! Seroster is in teh house :P
13:52 Experimentonomen ;)
13:52 Seroster Börk,.
13:52 Experimentonomen jajaja burk på dej själv ;p
13:54 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
13:57 * Experimentonomen looks at egrsteve
14:03 angy .cooki egrsteve
14:03 * angy fondles Seroster
14:10 * CaptainNiobe thinks she might be about to go through a period of time where anxiety is common again
14:11 Experimentonomen .cookie CaptainNiobe
14:11 BotSteve Here you go, CaptainNiobe, I baked you a gingerbread cookie!
14:13 CaptainNiobe thanks, Experimentonomen, but anxiety is a pita that a cookie can't fix... but is yummy! *omnomnoms*
14:16 Seroster CaptainNiobe, period?
14:16 Seroster =)
14:17 CaptainNiobe nope, serotonin problem... i guess my body is taking too much of it back into itself... lol
14:19 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, want a hug? *runs away*
14:20 Seroster CaptainNiobe, want drugs?
14:20 CaptainNiobe TOO LATE! *glomps Experimentonomen*
14:20 CaptainNiobe and no, sero, i don't do illegal drugs :P
14:22 mashpriborintorg yay i found Facom sockets in the garbage
14:22 mashpriborintorg a little rusty, a good cleanong will do it
14:23 mashpriborintorg also a huge power drill for teardown
14:23 Sgt_Lemming facom?
14:24 mashpriborintorg a famous tool brand over here
14:24 Seroster np, CaptainNiobe, I just have legal drugs, but plenty of them
14:25 CaptainNiobe nah, for now i'm alright, it's gone for the moment... was just stronger, that's why i think i may be entering a phase... if that happens, i'll go back on the ssris i ws on before
14:27 Seroster Arr
14:35 Sgt_Lemming wow...
14:35 Sgt_Lemming watching top shot
14:38 Sgt_Lemming they are using a 3.2" cannon firing at a target, each team got 5 shots to try and hit closest to the centre of the bullseye on a 12 foot target 200 yards away
14:38 Sgt_Lemming the difference between the winning and losing shots?
14:38 Sgt_Lemming 1/8"
14:39 Sgt_Lemming sorry, 3 yards
14:39 Sgt_Lemming 300 yards
14:40 CaptainNiobe bloody men and their bloody guns! GRRRR! :P
14:40 Seroster I got an invoice for 100bucks for a service I never purchased or got.
14:41 angy not my fault!
14:43 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Now if only they could do it without all the 'explanations' for idiots and the drama.
14:43 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that'd be nice
14:44 Sgt_Lemming and the rehashing of every damned thing for the channel surfers
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14:56 egrsteve morning
14:57 Monkeh Afternoon
15:00 CaptainNiobe funfun, walking a novice through cleaning a ton of dust out of his computer when tired... funfunfun... lol...
15:00 CaptainNiobe hey Monkeh :)
15:00 Monkeh Hallo
15:02 CaptainNiobe i has the photo from the space, but i haven't gotten it off the camera yet... :-\
15:11 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, i once had a dust carpet so thick under my cpu fan that i had to take the thing off and wash it in the sink with a brush and soap
15:13 Electricguy i hate dusty and hot running computers XD
15:17 Experimentonomen strangely enuf i dont remember it affecting performance at all, but then again the duron 750 prolly wasent a that fast of a cpu anyways
15:17 CaptainNiobe air compressors work just fine (pity tori doesn't have one)
15:17 CaptainNiobe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hse9wOZg-w&amp;feature=related
15:17 CaptainNiobe :D
15:17 BotSteve Title: World's Dirtiest Computer - YouTube
15:18 Sgt_Lemming air compressors are a bad idea
15:19 Electricguy still MCUH better than a vacuum cleaner
15:19 Electricguy MUCH*
15:19 Sgt_Lemming big source of static and hence ESD damage, as well as being powerful enough to lift chips off boards and out of sockets
15:19 Sgt_Lemming the BEST thing, is an ESD safe brush with stiff bristles
15:20 Electricguy vacuum cleaners are evil.. cause the dust stick to the outside of the hose cause of all the static electricity
15:20 SparkyProjects And as i just nentioned to Niobe, can produce damp air, unless you have a drier in line
15:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah
15:20 Sgt_Lemming that too
15:20 Electricguy though i have never killed a computer with an air compressor
15:20 CaptainNiobe unfortunately, tori's too much of a novice to be able to do that safely... he's usinga can of compressed air atm
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15:20 Sgt_Lemming mmm, condensation and corrosion under a BGA chip, good luck fixing that
15:21 Electricguy no problem with that as we got a very nice air dryer for our air system in the garage :)
15:21 SparkyProjects I generally use a drinking straw on the heatsinks and just blow through it, you can get through the fan or blow from the side
15:21 Electricguy the dryer is just pissing out water when using a lot of air
15:22 Electricguy we got this type of compressor http://www.bwmachinetools.co.uk/machineimages/hydrovane23compressor8775al.jpg
15:23 Electricguy a vane compressor. works the same way as a car horn compressor
15:23 Sgt_Lemming yeah
15:23 Electricguy but MUCH bigger :P
15:23 Sgt_Lemming they have advantages and disadvantages
15:23 Electricguy give a hell lot of air for it's size
15:24 Electricguy 5.5hp motor on it
15:24 Experimentonomen i pumped water with a car air horn compressor once
15:24 Electricguy lol
15:25 Experimentonomen after a few minutes, the water dissolved the glue that held the fielt magnets in place
15:25 SparkyProjects If you take a windscreen washer pump apart they are just a vane compressor, but the vane assembly is all rubber
15:26 Electricguy those pumps are more like screw compressors
15:26 Experimentonomen actually yjeir just centrifugal pumps
15:26 Electricguy there are different types
15:26 egrsteve so wrong http://www.damnlol.com/i/d44a41cb88fdbdd6a648ab00280cdda9.jpg
15:26 SparkyProjects nope, go find one and take it apart
15:26 Electricguy some got 2 gears that push the water
15:27 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, i have taken one apart
15:27 Electricguy some are centrifugal
15:27 Electricguy i have taken 100+ apart as i was addicted to playing with them as a little boy :P
15:27 Experimentonomen u sure the gear ones wasent fuel pumps ?
15:28 Electricguy yup
15:28 Electricguy there are windshield pumps of the gear type too
15:28 SparkyProjects might look like centrifugal, but one side of the chamber is smaller, i don't think a centrifugal would have the power
15:28 Experimentonomen oki
15:28 Sgt_Lemming centrifugal pumps normally have a volute
15:28 Electricguy SparkyProjects, oh yes, there are lots of centrifugal type windshield pumps
15:29 Sgt_Lemming so the water spirals out to the output
15:29 Seroster SparkyProjects!
15:29 Electricguy also, our big hydrovane air compressor looks pretty much like this inside http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2820/hornspring.jpg
15:29 SparkyProjects But if you close off the output of a centrifugal, it's easy to stop the flow
15:29 SparkyProjects Seroster ..
15:29 Electricguy but the vanes are pushed out with hydraulic pressure
15:31 SparkyProjects Most hydrovanes, the vanes push out by centrifugal force, or they have springs behind them, have seviced a few vane vac pumps
15:32 Experimentonomen again, it differ between manufacturers
15:32 SparkyProjects true
15:32 Electricguy our compressor got hydrualics.. so no springs or similar
15:33 Electricguy and it looks wrong with a 5.5hp motor on something the size of a trashcan.. XD
15:33 * lwq_laptop laughs
15:33 Experimentonomen hm
15:33 lwq_laptop i love this class
15:33 Electricguy get the F off IRC in school...
15:34 Electricguy IRC is not going to disappear just because you are in school
15:34 lwq_laptop its a free period, and its the day before break
15:34 Seroster lol
15:34 lwq_laptop yes it will
15:35 * egrsteve calls lee's school requests port closure
15:35 Experimentonomen maybe we should prevent lwq from beeing able to get in here during the time hes in school ;p
15:36 Electricguy yes
15:36 Electricguy ban the schools host
15:36 egrsteve we could have the bot auto kick him
15:36 lwq_laptop pft the techs at our school is fucking stupid. And i dont think they will block ports they need to use
15:36 egrsteve at certain time blocks
15:36 egrsteve I doubt they use IRC
15:36 lwq_laptop bot cant kick
15:37 egrsteve the bot could kick if given op
15:37 lwq_laptop no they use team viewer
15:37 egrsteve does it use the same port?
15:37 Experimentonomen during my last year in school, getting on any kinda irc was impossible
15:37 Electricguy it's not that hard to add the schools host addy to the banlist... :P
15:37 lwq_laptop Pretty sure it does
15:38 Experimentonomen i believe all sorts of chats were blocked by the schools LAN
15:38 egrsteve same here, at my collage IRC port is not open
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15:38 lwq_laptop im in a free period damnit. And the teacher doesnt care. He knows i have my ipod out
15:38 egrsteve (but SSH is shockingly)
15:38 Electricguy no. teamviewer listens on port 80.. IRC (most servers) on port 6667
15:39 egrsteve port 80 is web traffic so that is almost always open
15:39 Electricguy yeah
15:39 Experimentonomen aint there also a port 8080 ?
15:39 Electricguy i don't know if 6667 is used for so much else than IRC
15:39 egrsteve in theory
15:39 injektion 8080 is an http proxy
15:39 Electricguy if it's not some custom thing
15:39 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, there are 65535 ports
15:40 lwq_laptop grg class change
15:40 injektion Some IRC networks used to scan for HTTP proxies
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15:40 injektion Err SOCKA
15:40 injektion SOCKS*
15:40 egrsteve ok, time for lunch
15:41 Electricguy enjoy
15:41 Seroster egrsteve, Funfact, we use computers ALL THE TIME in our school, and they haven't got anything blocked at all.
15:41 Seroster Which can be seen in the results, and in the web history.
15:41 egrsteve I can imagine
15:42 egrsteve most institutional networks only open the ports they need to (or should if they have compitent IT people)
15:42 injektion When I was in school I tried the trick of changing the port to something else but they used protocol filtering
15:43 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
15:43 wannabe-zz thanks steve
15:44 injektion Websense :(
15:45 Seroster Pisses me off a bit, because instead of working people are on facebook and youtube, which makes them fall behind, keeping me from moving forward.
15:46 CaptainNiobe GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fucking parents that don't listen to their fucking kids when said kids are getting advice from other fucking people! GGGGRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! tori's dad used a friggen air compressor! :-\
15:46 injektion Seroster: In the US if you use government funds for anything technology you must filter
15:47 Seroster Now what CaptainNiobe
15:48 CaptainNiobe there is a risk of moisture buildup using compressors, correct?
15:48 Sgt_Lemming among other things
15:48 Sgt_Lemming too much force, static and moisture
15:48 Seroster Err, yeah.
15:48 Seroster Using compressors for what?
15:48 CaptainNiobe cleaning computers.
15:49 CaptainNiobe friend of mine in kansas. dusty pc, i told him to clean it out with a vacuum or a brush or a straw or compressed air. his dad just cleaned it with a compressor.
15:49 Electricguy a test setup for the arduino thermometer http://i.imgur.com/mAhlI.jpg
15:49 Sgt_Lemming NEVER A VACUUM >_<
15:50 Sgt_Lemming that is about the WORST thing you can use
15:50 CaptainNiobe on blow, lem, not suck
15:50 Electricguy cavuum is lightyears worse than a compressor
15:50 Sgt_Lemming doesn't matter
15:50 Sgt_Lemming in fact, blow is probably worse
15:50 Electricguy ye, doesn't matter. the hose create TONS of static anyways
15:50 * SparkyProjects has used a vac to clean his PC
15:51 SparkyProjects on suck
15:51 Electricguy stupid idea
15:51 Sgt_Lemming as it creates very hot, dry, fast moving air which is a recipe for static
15:52 SparkyProjects Serooster, i replied to you cap thread
15:53 CaptainNiobe reccomendation for tori's pc? it is now powered off and is unplugged
15:53 Sgt_Lemming a stiff brush, natural bristles if possible
15:53 Sgt_Lemming things like heatsinks are best done outside the PC as well
15:53 Seroster =) SparkyProjects
15:54 CaptainNiobe for the moisture that's probably in the machine? tori said it sounded weird (if we were lucky it'll be because the fans are actually clean for once lol)
15:55 Seroster Static electricity
15:55 CaptainNiobe ... they can't afford a new computer for tori...
15:55 Seroster When you got dust moving in a metal tube connected to a plastic hose it makes the hose VERY statically charged, and the metal tube grounds it out to the mother board.
15:56 CaptainNiobe can he leave it safely in the sun for a few hours?
15:56 Sgt_Lemming yes
15:57 CaptainNiobe ok, ty :) any other advice?
15:59 Sgt_Lemming the best way of cleaning a computer is the slow and laborious way, not the quick way
16:00 CaptainNiobe tori wants to know ifthe case has to be opened to leave it sit and dry? (outside isn't an option, no sun, been raining)
16:00 Sgt_Lemming why is there moisture in it...?
16:01 Seroster Canned air is very very dry
16:01 Seroster But a lot more expensive than compressor air
16:01 CaptainNiobe i suspect moisture due to tori's dad cleaning it with an air compressor...
16:01 Sgt_Lemming and also tends to be HIGHLY flammable :-P
16:02 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, it should be fine... now
16:02 JA12 I recently had to clean my computer insides. canned air, isopropyl alcohol, paper towels, old toothbrush
16:02 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, ....Nooo? =P
16:02 Sgt_Lemming the problem will appear in a couple of months, when it starts corroding
16:02 Seroster Freeze spray is flammable, canned air is, well, air.
16:05 Seroster .c 40*1.414
16:05 BotSteve 56.56
16:05 Seroster Brb. Testing breakdown voltage =)
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16:09 Experimentonomen canned air is sometimes relabeled butane lighter fluid cannisters
16:09 Electricguy yeah
16:10 Electricguy it gets very cold and evaporates very fast if you get the liquid out
16:10 Electricguy mine is also labeled as extremely flammable
16:11 Experimentonomen the one jeri said smelled like butt in the video about cleaning pinball play fields was prolly a relabeled lighter fluid cannister
16:11 Electricguy yeah
16:12 Experimentonomen since butane does small like someone farted
16:12 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkWePqTfD14
16:12 BotSteve Title: Cleaning a Motherboard Using Scrubbing Bubbles - YouTube
16:12 Experimentonomen btw i tried reviving my amiga 500 once by drenching the mobo in electronics cleaner
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16:17 wannabe-zz .tfw tgg
16:17 BotSteve 56 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'I've seen better days'
16:17 wannabe-zz not bad.
16:17 wannabe-zz thanks BotSteve
16:17 BotSteve Happy to help, wannabe-zz
16:19 Seroster This 0.8mm plastic made a crackling sound when it was between my two electrodes. Does that mean its breakdown voltage is above or under 4kv?
16:21 Sgt_Lemming possibly under
16:21 Sgt_Lemming crackling normally means it's arcing
16:21 Sgt_Lemming hissing means it's trying too
16:22 Seroster More hissing
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16:30 SparkyProjects Double the thickness and see what happens
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16:32 Sgt_Lemming lo zo
16:32 GGR Good afternoon everyone! We have complete coverage of the Dallas Tornadoes coming up at 1:00 p.m. EST. Please join me, I'll be broadcasting LIVE from the Leonard Street Studios. -Mitch
16:37 CaptainNiobe cleaning tori's machine didn't fix it, it's behaving in exactly the same manner as before... i asked him to check the machine's logs, but it won't stay on long enough for him to see... the oter options i cn think of is checking cpu is flush and removing the cmos battery for 10 minutes, howevr, these are too
16:37 CaptainNiobe advanced for me to tell to a novice over gtalk... does anyone have any other ideas? machine is powering down without warning, no bsod, just off...
16:37 Sgt_Lemming psu could be faulty
16:37 Sgt_Lemming or it's overheating
16:38 Sgt_Lemming when it powers off can he turn it on again straight away?
16:39 astro73|alice just straight out dying, no reboot, usually means a low-level hardware problem
16:39 Seroster SparkyProjects, not practical.
16:39 astro73|alice something is shorting, power problems, etc
16:40 astro73|alice (although it could also be a corrupted driver executing the "shutdown and die" instruction)
16:40 SparkyProjects Seroster, why not ?
16:40 Sgt_Lemming depending on how windows is setup, it can also be a BSOD
16:40 Seroster It's a plastic bottle
16:40 astro73|alice o yeah, windows sometimes hides the BSOD now
16:41 astro73|alice but doesn't it usually reboot then?
16:41 CaptainNiobe waiting on an answer
16:41 CaptainNiobe the machine is a 2003 dell dimension 8400, he bought new... it has had a great deal of problems, however, most was software related (lack of decent security software - 'nuff said)...
16:41 Seroster Cutting one up to cover another and then gluing and insu... Nah. Not practical. Will solve in othe rway
16:41 CaptainNiobe Sgt_Lemming:
16:41 CaptainNiobe ToriJ: No. It has a little flashy thing on the  power button and I have to hold it in, wait until the light goes off then I can  restart it.
16:41 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that's a hardware issue
16:41 Sgt_Lemming either overheating or power
16:41 CaptainNiobe any way to tell with a novica at the controls?
16:41 Sgt_Lemming if you check the dell service manual for his machine it might have a truth table for what that means
16:42 SparkyProjects so, if you put 2 bottles in a bucket, and connect to each bottle, and not the water in the bucket, you's get series caps
16:42 SparkyProjects Or, make 2 bucket caps and wire in series
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16:43 Sasha____ wassup guys!
16:44 Sgt_Lemming not alot, sup with you Sasha?
16:46 Seroster SparkyProjects, The plastic bottle is what would make up the outer layer
16:46 Seroster I.E put a glass bottle in the plastic bottle.
16:46 SparkyProjects Rgat should be ik, the glass in this case is the insulator
16:46 SparkyProjects *typo :P
16:49 Seroster Aye
16:49 Seroster I was just thinking about wrapping the outer sleeve in alu foil and make a two plate =)
16:50 Seroster Any oil will work eh? I got fridge compressor oil and old hydrualic oil
16:52 SparkyProjects As long as they are not conductive
16:52 SparkyProjects Though i didn't use oil in mine, just allow more space at the top
16:53 Seroster I was thinking about like two millimeters to stop evaporation
16:54 Experimentonomen it doesent stop evaporation, it just slows it down slightly
16:54 Seroster ...
16:54 Seroster Fuck you =)
16:55 astro73|alice nothing stops evaporation
16:55 astro73|alice except absolute zero
16:55 GGR The entire first A Block is full of aftermath tornado coverage, join us in 6 minutes for the latest Dallas-Forth Worth, Texas forecast. Plus, hear from tornado victims that made it to shelter, just in the nick of time. We go live at 1:00 on The GGR.
16:55 SparkyProjects If the water level is too high, it could arc over the top
16:56 astro73|alice assuming it's not ultra-pure de-ionized water
16:57 Seroster astro73|alice, I live in kristianstad. This water got so much lime in it you can walk on it.
16:57 astro73|alice exactly :P
16:57 astro73|alice making water an insulator is not worth your trouble
16:57 Experimentonomen nasty water
17:00 Seroster astro73|alice, What if I make a capacitor that is one layer of supersaturatesaltsolution and then one layer of pure water, then more SSSS and then water and then SSS and then water... To make a self healing capcacitor? =D
17:03 SparkyProjects In theiry that would work, pure water is not (very) conductive
17:03 mashpriborintorg gravity will ruin it, as it did with Chris fishtank capacitor idea
17:03 Seroster .... SparkyProjects ....
17:03 Seroster Yes, mashpriborintorg, that's the joke =)
17:04 mashpriborintorg and I doubt it will work better if you do it onboard the ISS
17:05 SparkyProjects If you could find liquid insulators and conductors of different densities, you may get somewhere
17:06 SparkyProjects Ot, get a very big container (flat) fill with pure water and salt water, one will float on top
17:12 Seroster Nah, they'll mix
17:13 Seroster Only way to make that work is if you got mercury in the bottom, then a oil heavier than water and water on top. Not practical.
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17:19 GGR Can you hide from a tornado? Severe weather expert Dr. Greg Forbes is in next with the answer on The GGR. -Mitch
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17:20 HighMan Hi all
17:21 CaptainNiobe Sgt_Lemming: still on?
17:21 GGR Severe weather expert Dr. Greg Forbes is on GGR now with the answer: can you hide from a tornado?
17:22 HighMan CaptainNiobe You aren't sleeping?
17:22 Hackbat I miss my NES
17:22 HighMan I need more GBA games....
17:22 CaptainNiobe no, HighMan, got a friend with major pc issues...
17:22 HighMan XD What's wrong with it? Virus? Crash? Broken HD?
17:23 HighMan Also... Is it the user's fault or the machine's fault.
17:23 CaptainNiobe nfi yet, looks like a hardware failure, but it's hard to tell what since it powers down too quick
17:23 Seroster Got no good used bottles.
17:23 Seroster Well. Time for some drinkin
17:23 Seroster FOR SCIENCE
17:24 HighMan It ain't BSOD right?
17:24 Seroster Too long neck too... Derp.
17:24 GGR The latest on the Dallas-Forth Worth, Texas tornadoes will be at 5:00 p.m. eastern on The GGR.
17:24 HighMan Seroster What are you talking about?
17:24 Seroster Imma make capacitors
17:24 CaptainNiobe and while mitch has got weather experts on live (and probs watching irc), it may be a good idea not to clog the channel with non-weather-related topics at the moment...
17:25 HighMan Seroster Ah!
17:25 HighMan Is it a bot?
17:27 Seroster Is what?
17:27 HighMan GG R
17:28 SparkyProjects Seroster, the long necks are an advantage, if you only fill to the shoulder, you get a lot of isolation from the other contact
17:28 SparkyProjects TGG use Corona bottles
17:28 Seroster Eh
17:29 Electricguy balls.. i can't find my serial interface LCD...
17:29 Seroster I'll just cut the neck and see what happens
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17:29 Seroster worst case scenario evrything explodes
17:29 HighMan For you it is. For me fun yet sad video.
17:31 mashpriborintorg yay this garbage day was successfull
17:32 CaptainNiobe i'm so so sorry i can't help further - i totally hate leaving you like this... :(
17:32 CaptainNiobe darnit!
17:32 CaptainNiobe w/c
17:33 GGR Must of had an internet connection issue. -Mitch
17:34 GGR We have a HOT DEAL coming up in a little bit for The Geek Deal of the Day! I'll have it on The GGR, tune in!
17:35 lwq_laptop another free period
17:36 mashpriborintorg one month of free AOL membership :p
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17:38 Seroster Crap
17:38 Seroster Bottle didnt break good at all
17:39 Seroster Wonder what the breakdown voltage of a pet bottle is
17:40 GGR Geek Deal coming up in :48
17:40 SparkyProjects Breaking bottles ?
17:41 Seroster Well. That dindnt work at all =)
17:41 mashpriborintorg there is some good tricks about it on youtube
17:41 mashpriborintorg check greenpowerscience channel iirc
17:41 SparkyProjects Why are you breaking bottles ?
17:42 GGR Hey guys, we're getting breaking news out of Lancaster, TX where the tornadoes struck. I'm going on with the latest information in 2:04 on The GGR.
17:43 Seroster To make them fit, SparkyProjects  =)
17:44 Seroster Got another idea
17:44 SparkyProjects Get a bigger bucket :P
17:44 SparkyProjects Or allow the tops to protrude through the lid
17:44 SparkyProjects The neck is useful for isolation
17:45 Seroster Aye
17:45 Seroster Making a hole in the plastic lid =)
17:48 yNos so what is new on irc?
17:50 HighMan Methane.
17:50 GGR Just got a text from Meteorologist Ginger Zee from Good Morning America. She is down in Texas right now. She said the National Weather Service is reporting an EF2 Tornado in Arlington and an EF3 Tornado in Forney. -Mitch
17:51 mashpriborintorg thso what is new at the lab, ynos :p
17:51 SparkyProjects Methane is running out
17:51 SparkyProjects oops, that's helium :P
17:52 mashpriborintorg methane, helium, same stuff :p
17:52 yNos we can easily make more methan.
17:52 yNos helium is a bit harder
17:52 HighMan SparkyProjects Yep
17:52 HighMan (Periodic Videos)
17:53 * yNos eats more cabbage
17:53 HighMan Hi bunny.
17:53 mashpriborintorg just get cows, you will have a free methane source
17:53 * HighMan Shoots a helium collecting space probe.
17:53 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtTU-1NcPcA&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2e68fb2FUAAAAAAAAAA
17:53 HighMan HA
17:53 BotSteve Title: Arduino Processor Basics - YouTube
17:53 mashpriborintorg yay
17:53 HighMan (TGG Vid)
17:54 mashpriborintorg I'm just beggining with arduino, great
17:54 HighMan lol
17:54 SparkyProjects Contrary to popular belief, methane from cows comes mostly from the mouth
17:54 HighMan Mythbusters
17:54 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX37LFv8jWY
17:55 BotSteve Title: Wireless Arduino Powered Chess - YouTube
17:55 GGR Were going to have another update on the tornado sight coming up in 1 minute on Mitchell McCoy Today. -Mitch
17:56 injektion What the hell is this ugly thing http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/drive-on/2012/04/04/2013NissanAltimax-large.jpg
17:57 HighMan A car
17:57 injektion It's?like looking over the desert menu filled with exciting choices and then buying the vanilla ice cream
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18:02 Experimentonomen g'evenin zozo
18:02 GGR Guys, I'm off the air for now but am staying late here in the station for the latest information on the tornado destruction areas. Mitchell McCoy Today will re-air at 5:00 eastern to those who need information on recovery efforts. Obviously, any breaking weather information that needs to be addressed will be on-the-air throughout the day. -Mitch
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18:09 Seroster God damn it it takes a lot of salt to make ssss
18:12 yNos to make what?
18:13 SparkyProjects He's making bucket caps
18:13 Seroster supersaturatedsaltsoluiton
18:15 Seroster Damn that water's like 20% salt
18:16 SparkyProjects I didn't use as much salt as Chris did in the vid, still worked
18:16 Seroster I used far more than chris did
18:17 Seroster I actually boiled it and kept pouring in salt until crystals began floating around on top
18:17 TGG-ZozoAFK yo Experimentonomen
18:19 tesla4d_ Seroster: Yeah, the thing is, the amount that can dissolve is dependent on temperature, so unless you intend to run your caps at ~100C you don't need to do that.
18:20 * Experimentonomen has the biggest non projector puter moniter in this channel :P
18:21 Seroster tesla4d_, Overkill is my middle name.
18:21 Seroster Btw, it's forming crystals at the top that have made like a sheet of ice, it's really really pretty
18:22 SparkyProjects yeah, you can grow salt crystals
18:22 Experimentonomen not as cool as sodium acetate though
18:22 Seroster Experimentonomen, But... Sodium acetate isn't a buck a kilo, now is it?
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18:26 ajprog_laptop hi yNos
18:27 GGR Were receiving urgent breaking news in Texas RIGHT NOW. We're breaking into GGR right now. Tune in. Also, broadcasting on TuneIn!
18:38 GGR Tornado warnings have just expired for Brazoria and Galveston in Texas. We are back in music.
18:44 astro73|alice sounds like when when a friend found a table in his textbook outlining the thermal properties of food
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18:46 astro73|alice hey zozo
18:46 astro73|alice i wonder if i can create an actual robo dj for ggr?
18:46 astro73|alice err,
18:46 astro73|alice a robo dj that talks on-air
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18:47 Chipguy evening
18:48 GGR We have some capabilties with that with the software we use but because of plans that are in the works, I don't think we are using it.
18:49 astro73|alice you're not using a lot of things
18:49 GGR Astro73: Who are you?
18:49 astro73|alice a local
18:49 astro73|alice i go by astro at the lab
18:49 GGR Okay, what is your name?
18:49 astro73|alice astro
18:50 astro73|alice :P
18:50 GGR Have you been in the radio station?
18:50 astro73|alice not really, seen the photos, heard about it
18:50 astro73|alice i'm sure it's filled with stuff, though
18:50 GGR Because if you know we're not using a lot of things, you should come up here and show us what other things we can be doing.
18:51 astro73|alice oh, i didn't say i knew how to use them
18:51 GGR You certainly implied that.
18:51 astro73|alice also, i'm short on free time
18:51 astro73|alice i'm more of a software guy
18:51 GGR That's awesome.
18:52 yNos hey there ajprog_laptop hows it going?
18:52 ajprog_laptop good
18:55 yNos TGG-ZozoAFK: Do you know if that cisco 1700 is still around (it is the little black cisco that was in the office)
18:55 yNos i think it had a dsl card in it.
18:56 yNos ajprog_laptop might know too..
18:56 yNos or Cprossu..
19:01 ajprog_laptop I don't know
19:06 TGG-ZozoAFK yes its here
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19:06 Ponko property damage when did THIS happen masterofmonks
19:06 Ponko lol
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19:10 astro73|alice something about making someone spew milk
19:11 Electricguy new TGG video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtTU-1NcPcA&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G224d857FUAAAAAAABAA
19:11 BotSteve Title: Arduino Processor Basics - YouTube
19:11 lwq1996 i am homes
19:11 Electricguy how are you doing, Homes?
19:12 lwq1996 fuck
19:12 lwq1996 i tried to use the nick homes but its taken
19:13 Watson it's "holmes", i think
19:13 Watson also, why am I the slow assistant to your brilliance?
19:13 Ponko oh god
19:14 Holmes that's better
19:14 Shelock-Holmes elementary Watson
19:14 * Electricguy Spock
19:14 * lwq1996 facepalms hard
19:14 Electricguy fail
19:14 astro73|alice w/e
19:15 Kirk how weird.. IRC is PACKED with geeks.. Spock and Kirk are taken
19:15 Seroster Now I just gotta let the epoxy set for a while...
19:16 Electricguy hot glue <3
19:16 SparkyProjects epoxy ?
19:16 SparkyProjects What did you break ? :D
19:16 astro73|alice wow, i never would have seen that
19:16 Seroster Lol
19:16 Electricguy hot glue + heat </3
19:16 British-General right stop this silly silly silly
19:16 masterofmonks British-General, Damnit stop chaning your nick so I can highlight you.
19:16 Seroster SparkyProjects, Just sealing up the bottleneck going through the lid
19:17 Ponko sorry masterofmonks
19:17 injektion I am looking over my DHCP leases and the Mac G4 isn't showing its hostname in the log is there a reason for that?
19:17 masterofmonks Ponko, Look at my facebook, I am sure you will figure out the property damage thing.
19:17 SparkyProjects You may want to have a vent incase the water warms up with all that power :P
19:17 Ponko ahh ok
19:17 Seroster SparkyProjects, Pft. Seal will break before pressure builds up
19:17 Seroster I just wanna keep shit from splotching all over the place
19:18 injektion I am looking over my DHCP leases and the Mac G4 isn't showing its hostname in the log is there a reason for that?
19:19 GGR GOING ON IN :18 WITH A LIVE TX WX UPDATE
19:19 Ponko well nothing much as far as i can see but congrats masterofmonks and CaptainNiobe :)
19:19 astro73|alice injektion: ask once
19:19 injektion astro73|alice, wrong window
19:19 Seroster masterofmonks, Whatcha think about a radio channel?
19:19 masterofmonks Seroster, Sounds like a damn good idea.
19:20 SparkyProjects #TGGR
19:20 Seroster Naah
19:20 masterofmonks Tgg:radio
19:20 Seroster I propose we use the #tgg:stream for that
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19:20 masterofmonks Either or.
19:21 Seroster We already got #tgg:stream - it was made as a channel for interaction live stream - irc
19:22 GGR We're hoping to do live weather updates every half-hour/hour with the situation in Texas. If any Tornado Warnings are issued, we will break in immediately.
19:22 Looking Hello
19:22 SparkyProjects hi
19:23 Looking I will be first to admit as geeky as I am.. I have hardly used IRC
19:24 astro73|alice it's a dying form
19:24 GGR It's okay, Looking! We're glad you are in chatting with us this afternoon. -Mitch
19:24 Looking I stumbled upon the thegeekgroup from Sparkfun a year or more ago and keep the bookmark around for future reference.
19:24 Looking Are you guys local to Grand Rapids?
19:25 SparkyProjects So, what are your aereas of expertise ?
19:25 Looking Power Electrical/ Electronics/ Aerospace Reliability /
19:25 SparkyProjects We are from all over the world, i'm in Wales UK, others are from Sweden, France, Norway etc
19:25 SparkyProjects But there are locals too
19:26 SparkyProjects Cool :)
19:27 astro73|alice Looking: yes, up on leonard
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19:27 Looking Ahh very cool.  I love expanding on international business opportunities.   I recently worked for GE Aviation.   I moved to Eaton Aerospace to get more exposure to Mechanical Reliability.     We are focused on Mechanical Actuation in the aerospace biz
19:28 Looking However, I am reaching out here for other reasons.    I have a friend looking for a good Electronics Technician interesting in doing a build of 4 prototype PWB
19:29 Seroster 0.7 NANO farad?!
19:29 Seroster I'll only need 10 more '-'
19:30 SparkyProjects Is that just one bottle ?
19:30 Seroster Yeah =P
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19:30 Seroster Makes a really sharp crackling sound when hooked in series with the nst =)
19:30 SparkyProjects 10 more would only be 7. 7nF
19:30 Seroster Ah, my bad, ONE HUNDRED MORE
19:31 SparkyProjects Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy those caps than to buy alcohol ?
19:32 Seroster It's a 33cl bottle with SSSS in it, with a wire going from the cap into the bottle.   And a sleeve which is the other plate
19:32 Seroster SparkyProjects, To be honest, there was never alc in the bottles. Soda.
19:32 egrsteve morning zozo
19:33 TGG-ZozoAFK yo
19:34 egrsteve anything happening today?
19:34 Seroster ...Weather.
19:36 Looking So do any know of an electronics Tech that might be interested in hand assembling some prototype PWBs  this is a project that would pay but does have schedule requirements.
19:37 Looking Looking for someone around the Central Michigan Area.
19:37 egrsteve define central michigan?
19:38 injektion Holy Hell this G4 is slow
19:38 Looking Well I'm from Grand Rapids.   But say anywhere from Holland to Flint.
19:38 Looking Kalamzoo to Big Rapids
19:38 egrsteve what type of assembly?
19:39 Seroster How the fuck do I end up with a tenth of the efficiency of pretty much anyone else that did the exact same project? fuck.
19:39 egrsteve check the filter on the turbo encabulator, if might be clogged
19:40 Looking Hand assembly of 4 PWB prototype boards.   4 wheel steering control system.    I believe around 500 components each Board.
19:40 SparkyProjects Seroster, if you are using (for instance) foil sleeve, then it has to be in full contact with the surface, any air bubbles will reduce efficiency
19:40 egrsteve SMD or THD?
19:41 Looking Mostly SMD.
19:41 SparkyProjects Are you sure you're reding your meter right ?
19:41 egrsteve 0603 or smaller?
19:41 Seroster SparkyProjects, saltwater.
19:44 Looking 0603 mostly and bigger..  I am not the designer but just spoke with him.   There are more on the order of 200 components per board
19:45 GGR JUST IN: GGR will conduct LIVE interview with the National Weather Service office in Houston, Texas at 4:00 p.m. eastern standard time- that's in just about 15 minutes on-the-air.
19:46 egrsteve any BGAs or finer than .5mm pitch devics?
19:46 lwq1996 .ggr
19:46 lwq1996 he GGR what is the link to the ggr? is it on stickam?
19:47 yNos TGG-ZozoAFK: Can you bring that to the LUG tonight?
19:48 egrsteve http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
19:48 yNos and it's power supply.. and a couple cisco cables..
19:48 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
19:48 egrsteve yNos, what did you need to tune the output stage of that repeater
19:48 egrsteve an RF watt meter?
19:48 Looking Steve,  I am not sure on that.    Is this something you might be interested in getting into?   I could have Sam contact you since he designed the board he would really give you the details.
19:49 Looking I just offered to maybe find someone that would know some local contacts to perform the work.
19:49 astro73|alice Looking: you worked at <del>smiths industrustries</del> <del>smiths</del> ge aviation?
19:49 Looking Yes.
19:49 astro73|alice (sorry, i kinda have to laugh at the constant name changes)
19:50 Looking I left Smiths.. well GE Now, but left there in May 2011.
19:50 astro73|alice i never worked there, although they did sponsor my robotics team when i was in high school
19:50 Looking Part of First Robotics?
19:50 lwq1996 egrsteve: i cant view that. im on linux
19:51 astro73|alice Looking: yup, 1227
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19:51 Looking ahh I know of that..  Was that Justin Telman?
19:51 egrsteve looking I suppose it depends on time table as I am currently rather busy
19:51 egrsteve when do they need to be soldered by?
19:52 astro73|alice Looking: there was a justin, i don't remember his name
19:52 astro73|alice i was the software guy
19:52 SparkyProjects Seroster, i just did a quick test, a jar half full gave me about 0.8nF,  about 60mm dia and 60mm high
19:52 yNos egrsteve: yup, multimeter and a watt meters.
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19:52 egrsteve a std DMM?
19:52 egrsteve and an RF watt meter
19:52 yNos looks like it.
19:52 yNos yup
19:53 egrsteve I will ask around about a watt meter
19:54 injektion Last login: Wed Dec 31 19:20:07 1969
19:54 injektion Something is wrong with the G4's PRAM
19:55 Seroster .wa surface area 33cl bottle
19:55 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
19:56 SparkyProjects What is the inner diameter of the bottle (roughly), and what height is the water ?
19:57 GGR HAPPENING IN 5 MINUTES: Mitchell McCoy will be speaking LIVE to Scott Overpick at the National Weather Service office in Houston, Texas about the threat of severe weather today. Tune in now to GGR... Broadcasting live here: http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/      or on TuneIn here:    http://tunein.com/radio/The-GGR-s160635/
19:57 BotSteve Title: The GGR - - Listen Online
19:57 Seroster Glass bottle OD 6.4cm Bottle wall thickness .4cm   inner diameter 5.6cm
19:58 Seroster Water collum 13.8cm
19:59 HighMan /msg masterofmonks Welcome home sir.
19:59 Seroster .c 5.6*pi
19:59 HighMan shit.
19:59 BotSteve 17.5929189
19:59 Looking Steve.  I just chatted again with Sam.   He expects to have the PWBs and components in hand in 3 weeks.   He was hoping for a 3-4 week Turn around on the assembly
19:59 Seroster .c 17.593*13.8
19:59 BotSteve 242.7834
20:00 Seroster That's about 200cm surface area since the bottle isnt a perfect cylinder
20:00 Looking The boards to have a couple o LQFPs on them but if they are smaller than you can do he would send them out to have those parts installed at an assembler.
20:01 Looking Alice you still here?
20:01 Seroster I could do some more accurate calculations assuming it's a cylinder and a cone.
20:01 HighMan Who's ryan?
20:02 Seroster Some private that was saved...
20:02 SparkyProjects circumference of inside is 17.6 multiply by height of water (13.8) = 242.9 square CM
20:02 lwq1996 lol
20:02 lwq1996 GGR i hear it but it faint
20:02 Seroster .... Yes...
20:03 Seroster SparkyProjects, the bottle gets narrower towards the end so 200is a decent guesstimate
20:03 egrsteve looking I can do a LQFP but not under a pitch of .5mm
20:03 SparkyProjects Yeah, and you have the area of the base, so assume up to 250
20:03 lwq1996 GGR: this is a fail
20:04 Seroster SparkyProjects, .... Allright then, but that's being picky ;)
20:04 lwq1996 simple design!!!!!!
20:04 Looking ok Steve.  So would be interested in talk more about this project?
20:05 astro73|alice Looking: yeah, i am
20:05 egrsteve possible, the biggest factor is time table
20:05 SparkyProjects So it you put those figures into the plate cap calc, you should get a rough capacitance
20:07 Looking I understand about the schedule and Sam can probably be a bit flexible on that as well.  I think he was estimating it would be about 40 hours of work and hoping to have it completed in 4 weeks.
20:07 SparkyProjects seroster, are you sure you're measuring in CM and not MM ?
20:07 SparkyProjects 4cm thick glass is a lot :P
20:07 injektion Apparently the G4 has an issue keeping time and that relates to the PRAM
20:07 Seroster lol
20:08 Looking If he has a good launch on this prototype it could lead to possible bigger opportunities as well.
20:08 Seroster 0.000005uf
20:08 Looking What is the best way to contact you?
20:09 astro73|alice injektion: that sounds like bad news
20:09 lwq1996 GGR:  you there?
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20:09 Seroster Are anon like ddosing youtube or what?
20:10 egrsteve let me get you an email
20:10 astro73|alice Seroster: i don't think so, why?
20:10 Seroster lag
20:10 astro73|alice and why would youtube be a target?
20:10 Seroster Because anon are fucking crazy? =)
20:11 egrsteve looking you should have recieved an email address via PM
20:11 GGR Okay, sorry about that guys... MAJOR technical problems... WE ARE SCHEDULED TO GO! We're going live in 2:17
20:11 astro73|alice Seroster: i thought usually it was politically motivated
20:11 Looking egrSteve:   Ok that will work I got it.   I will pass that along to Sam and he will contact you about his needs for the project.
20:12 lwq1996 GGR: i was getting a muffled sound which sounded like someone talking. so maybe the sound wasnt up or conection was bad
20:12 egrsteve thanks looking
20:12 Seroster astro73, hence the question if anyone knows about if they are ddosing youtube, i wanna know what yt did to eventually piss off ano
20:13 astro73|alice google is generally good on that front
20:13 astro73|alice i would guess it's your ISP's traffic shaping
20:13 Seroster SparkyProjects, tin foil and glass plates next? =)
20:14 Seroster Got 6 5cm wide .5cm thick 50cm long pieces of glass laying around
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20:16 Looking no problem.  It might work out and it might not.   I would take on the activity myself.. but it is a schedule issues for me.  Full time employed and a grad student, and a landlord..  I don't know what spare time is.
20:16 astro73|alice who does?
20:16 Looking cheers.  Back to work.
20:17 egrsteve well I'm an undergrad and work part time so I know the feelign
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20:19 SparkyProjects Seroster, you'd have to make sure the foil is flat
20:20 Seroster A piece of foil between two pieces of glass doesn't have much choise
20:20 Looking egrsteve :  ahh ok.  didn't realize you are in school.  This is a pretty good size project.   It is a prototype steering system being developed for a car manufacture on a contact.   The system development is done now it need to be built for test and debug.
20:21 egrsteve noted, thats why I wondered the timeline
20:22 tonsofpcs tlockley really keeps hidden...
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20:27 wannabe-work hi
20:29 Seroster Let's see now.
20:29 Seroster Maybe if I use gasoline as the inner plate... =D
20:30 TGG-ZozoAFK yo
20:32 wannabe-work sup?
20:35 astro73|alice hi
20:36 wannabe-work astro!  how goes life?
20:36 astro73|alice meh
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20:37 wannabe-work meh?  uh oh....
20:37 wannabe-work and hi Guardianzozo
20:37 astro73|alice it's kinda boring
20:37 astro73|alice but i'm going to be making a 10min video for english
20:37 wannabe-work thats cuz you didn't dance last night :P
20:37 astro73|alice i'm also sleepy
20:38 wannabe-work nap time!
20:38 wannabe-work we have some spare beds....:P
20:39 astro73|alice lol, i'm at work
20:39 astro73|alice and then i have class tonight
20:39 astro73|alice philosophy logic
20:41 wannabe-work sounds nap inducing :P
20:42 wannabe-work my hallmate came back from break REALLY late so my break hence is REALLY late and i still have someone to get up.....
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20:43 wannabe-work and why the HELL do people think you can just TOUCH my computer....
20:43 wannabe-work i don't know what the fuck is on your hands.
20:48 Seroster LOL
20:49 Seroster .C 47*8
20:49 Seroster .c 47*8
20:49 BotSteve 376
20:49 Seroster SparkyProjects, börk.
20:49 SparkyProjects :P
20:51 Seroster If I have three pieces of foil I got 2 plates and twice the area
20:51 Ponko o_O ok looked on here at the wrong time
20:51 Ponko lol
20:51 wannabe-work ok
20:51 wannabe-work bakc to work
20:51 wannabe-work i think
20:51 wannabe-work blarghargh
20:51 SparkyProjects 3 pieces of foil would be 3 plates
20:51 Seroster If I use five pieces of foil I get 4 plates, but then I need to protect the two outer layers
20:52 wannabe-work its ok.  next week i start being here about 2-3 days a week :D
20:52 Seroster Isnt the charge stored in the dialectric?
20:54 GGR If you missed the interview with the National Weather Service, you can catch it again... it's going to re-air at 4:54:18 p.m. EST on The GGR.
20:54 GGR If you know anyone in Dallas-Forth Worth, Texas area and would be willing to do a live phone interview, please have them give me a call... my direct line to the office is: 616-414-0844.
20:56 Ponko hmm CNC Breakdown/Service Engineer
20:58 Seroster So in essence, all 4 pieces need to have foil on one side, to I taped them together side by side. Now to spread some glue, roll out the foil, compress it all for a little while, then cut them into individual pieces and remove half a centimeter of foil on each side of the plates
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20:59 SparkyProjects Sounds about right
20:59 Seroster If I only had some good glue.
20:59 Seroster Can't use wood glue since it'll never ever dry
21:00 HighMan Anyone know how I could mount my bed on the celing? xD
21:00 Seroster Errr..
21:00 Seroster Define
21:00 HighMan Like I need floor space, my room is too smal...
21:00 HighMan DERP NOT OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE.
21:01 HighMan Inside my house, bolted to the indoor ceiling..
21:01 SparkyProjects That doesn't matter, as long as it's a thin spread, nad you can clamp the glass together (tape)
21:01 astro73|alice HighMan: suspend your bed from your ceiling?
21:01 astro73|alice why couldn't you?
21:01 astro73|alice assuming the ceiling can hold the weight
21:01 HighMan yes.
21:01 HighMan But how?
21:02 astro73|alice find studs, screw it in?
21:02 astro73|alice chains?
21:02 astro73|alice cable?
21:02 TGG-ZozoAFK ubolt around the beams
21:02 HighMan Nvm... Ceiling fan is in the way damnit.
21:02 astro73|alice i'm assuming the ceiling is drywalled
21:02 astro73|alice could also try a loft?
21:02 HighMan I just need more floor space lol
21:03 astro73|alice so you have space under the bed
21:03 astro73|alice a loft is like a bunk bed without a bottom bunk
21:03 GGR Hey guys, Mitchell McCoy TODAY is re-airing right now on The GGR. He has complete coverage of the aftermath of the storms in Texas. Tune in now!
21:03 Seroster HighMan, I got a loft bed for 80bucks on ebay, threw it on a dolly and rolled it home, I have the bed on the floor and use the "loft" part as storage.
21:03 astro73|alice there should be enough space underneath it to work
21:03 TGG-ZozoAFK most usually have a desk or something under the bed also
21:03 HighMan Hm..
21:03 Seroster The idea was to use the loft as a sleeping space, but that was impractical for marital reasons.
21:04 astro73|alice could also make your own out of 4x4's and timber
21:04 TGG-ZozoAFK damn laptop...
21:04 astro73|alice 4x4's and 2x4's
21:04 HighMan I think I'm going to actually but something under my bed ot make it go higher...
21:04 Seroster HighMan,  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hvUgLTILEVE/SVf99Bh4hKI/AAAAAAAAFHY/6D8amwDAxIc/s400/Ikea+Loft.jpg
21:04 astro73|alice how much higher do you need? just storage or actual workspace?
21:05 HighMan Just storage.
21:05 HighMan Damn ceiling fan.
21:05 Seroster My ex girlfriend had her bed on a pair of document drawers
21:05 astro73|alice oh, there's a plethora of options
21:05 astro73|alice space under the bed, shelves over the bed
21:05 Seroster So the bed was a meter over the floor xD
21:05 Seroster Easier to have space under the bed, since what he'll store is likely electronics crap
21:05 astro73|alice could do one of those beds that swing down, but that will only get you more floor space
21:06 HighMan I think i might do the thing seroster posted.
21:06 astro73|alice that would be a loft
21:06 HighMan I just don't want my head to be cut off by the fan.
21:06 Seroster Lol
21:06 masterofmonks HighMan, Or you could just build our own.
21:07 masterofmonks your*
21:07 Seroster Its impossible to get your head cut by one
21:07 astro73|alice depending on how much space you need, could just get/build some risers
21:07 HighMan Sure...
21:07 Seroster HighMan, you could also extend the legs of the bed by a few feet
21:07 * HighMan Throws Seroster in to a jet engine's fan.
21:07 astro73|alice so you get like 6" more space
21:07 HighMan True...
21:07 HighMan Seroster Still alive?
21:07 masterofmonks All you need is a hand saw, and some dimentional lumber...
21:07 astro73|alice there's a variety of options
21:07 Seroster Yes, HighMan ?
21:07 HighMan You said you can't die from a fan...
21:08 HighMan I threw you in to a jet engine's fan.
21:08 HighMan Are you alive?
21:08 HighMan That is running atleast.
21:08 astro73|alice all of them are buildable with plywood, lumber, and a saw
21:08 Seroster SparkyProjects, I also got in the range of 0.8, with about the same size jar, but doesnt that mean I
21:09 Seroster 'll have to have a shitload of bottles?
21:09 Seroster If I did them like chris that would mean I'd have to get EIGHT 5gallon buckets for my tiny NST
21:09 SparkyProjects yeah, that's the unfortunate part of having so little power
21:10 Seroster How come billy got away with a dozen bottles when I have to make a hundred? Is it because he got higher voltage?
21:10 SparkyProjects higher voltage, and i think higher current
21:10 HighMan I have a map and drawings that are in the way...
21:10 Seroster Hm.
21:10 Seroster HighMan, A ceiling fan thatis.
21:11 Seroster Also, you can remove it yaknow.
21:11 SparkyProjects That's why i said buying those caps may be easier
21:11 HighMan A Ceiling Fan, A map that is where my bed would be.
21:11 astro73|alice a verb to complete the idea?
21:11 Seroster Yeah... Thing is the plastic foil ones I found for a decent price would explode, and the ones you recomended would set me back 200bucks =P
21:12 HighMan I didn't know that if I shorted a peice of lead through my cpu, it would shoot peices of it at me..
21:12 HighMan *psu
21:12 Seroster Lol
21:12 Seroster HighMan, get a loft bed. Look at craigslist.
21:14 HighMan Loft bed won't work.... If I were to make a loft bed where the bed is right now... The map on the wall would be covered.
21:14 HighMan I can raise the bed at most like 1-2 feet before the map is covered...
21:15 HighMan Or I could remove it...
21:15 HighMan Damn head. Not big enough.
21:15 Seroster Screw your map
21:15 HighMan XD
21:16 HighMan It's the map of the world :D
21:16 Seroster O W T F
21:16 Seroster Yeah, you'll loose australia, south america and africa, no big loss xD
21:16 HighMan lolololol
21:17 Seroster I googled file cabinet and one of the pictures made my antivirus go apeshit.
21:17 HighMan HAHAHA
21:17 Seroster I mean... From all the sites I surf, one with a fucking FILE CABINET got a virus? xD
21:17 HighMan xD
21:19 astro73|alice HighMan: it's your room. move things as you'd like?
21:19 HighMan It's not that big....
21:19 Seroster SparkyProjects, I suppose wood glue doesnt work for shit on glass/alu foil? =D
21:19 astro73|alice if you make a loft/riser/hammock, it's to your specifications
21:19 Seroster Because... I got wood glue, epoxy and superglue xD
21:20 SparkyProjects Highman, how much height have you got under the bed ?
21:20 SparkyProjects They do underbed storage that is quite low, or use old suitcases
21:20 Seroster I got styrofoam and acetone, so I could make my own glue =D
21:20 HighMan .5 feet to 1 foot.
21:20 Seroster .c 1/5
21:20 BotSteve 0.2
21:20 Seroster =)
21:21 SparkyProjects Seroster, no, tried that, it does hold it in place, but is a pita to apply smooth (even watered down), and you need to secure the panels with tape etc to stop them sliding
21:21 Seroster Just wanted glue to keep the foil from moving around while cutting it
21:21 Seroster Maybe my spray varnish would work?
21:22 SparkyProjects maybe
21:22 SparkyProjects If you do multiple panels, leave a bit of foil out at alternate ends
21:23 Seroster .c 24*42
21:23 BotSteve 1008
21:23 Seroster That's my total surface area
21:23 Seroster Hey
21:23 Seroster I have five big mirrors on my balcony
21:23 SparkyProjects yeah, but stacking plates means you have the surface area of both sides of the middle plates
21:23 Seroster If I sand off the metal in the corners...
21:24 astro73|alice HighMan: how much space do you want/need?
21:24 Seroster SparkyProjects, They are like 2square meters each =)
21:24 HighMan Hm.
21:24 HighMan Idk.
21:24 astro73|alice 1' should be enough for a lot of storage
21:24 Seroster Fucking awesome, stacking mirrors as a capacitor xD
21:24 astro73|alice Seroster: that's pretty awesome
21:25 Seroster Lololololol
21:25 SparkyProjects Be careful of the metalised backing, scrape it off round the edge
21:26 Seroster C O L D
21:26 Seroster .c 60*45
21:26 BotSteve 2700
21:26 Seroster Thats the surface area of one mirror
21:27 Seroster Lets round that off to 2500
21:27 Seroster Only got three mirrors of that size. So, 7500cm2
21:27 Seroster I might have to cut those mirrors up too, they are kinda bulky atm
21:29 Seroster So... if I make 4 smaller sheets of every big sheet I still got more or less the same surface area
21:31 SparkyProjects As i said, as you stack them, you have the surface area of the front of plate 1 and plate 2, then you have the surface area of the back of plate 2 and the front of plate 3 etc
21:31 SparkyProjects So you'd have more area by stacking
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21:34 Seroster Crap... Ceram wrap isnt thick enough
21:35 Seroster And the silver on the mirrors wasnt just a foil
21:35 Seroster It was like.. an atom thick
21:35 Seroster One second scraping paint the other second scraping glass
21:37 SparkyProjects yeah, it's just a thin spray coating
21:39 astro73|alice that sounds hard to wire
21:40 Seroster Yes. Fun idea but not practical
21:44 astro73|alice i'm just picturing trying to solder a micro coating
21:45 Seroster If I went for it I wouldnt solder it
21:45 Seroster I'd scrape and just llaminate more aluminium in there
21:46 astro73|alice ...
21:46 astro73|alice that sounds .... challenging
21:46 Seroster Easier than microcoatingsoldering
21:46 astro73|alice that's fair
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21:49 Seroster So... Foil cap failed.
21:49 Seroster Bottle cap I need a hundred of
21:49 Seroster Mirror cap is impractical
21:50 Seroster I haven't got enough glass panes to make a glass plate capacitor
21:50 Seroster ... Those microwave oven lytics are looking awfully tempting xD
21:52 Seroster One layer of plastic wrap wasnt enough by far
21:54 Electricguy state of the art! :D this fella uses COMPRESSED WATER... http://now.msn.com/now/0404-octavia-navy-robot.aspx
21:54 BotSteve Title: Navy to start fighting fires with freakish looking lady robot - msnNOW
21:54 Seroster Results from plastic wrap; 16=Corona.   8=BAAAD corona. 4=Half a second of corona before blasting a hole
21:56 Electricguy bedtime. night all
21:56 Seroster Thats idiotic electricguy
21:56 Electricguy you don't say?
21:56 Seroster Instead of having to talk to a million dollar robot and explain to it "Come with me.    STOP!    FIRE!"
21:57 Seroster Fucking $100 fire extinguisher
21:57 Electricguy lol yeh
21:57 Electricguy ok, night all!
21:57 Seroster cya electricguy
21:57 astro73|alice class...
21:58 Seroster SparkyProjects, if I name my firstborn after you, will you send me your MMC caps? =D
21:58 SparkyProjects Nope :P
21:58 SparkyProjects I need them for myself
21:59 Seroster What if we fight to the death over them? =)
21:59 SparkyProjects If you can afford to fly here to fight, you can afford to buy caps
22:00 Seroster True, but that wouldnt be as fun
22:06 Seroster Anyway
22:06 Seroster Imam go out wiht the garbage. With a lil luck I can dumpster dive myself a mmc
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22:24 Seroster No mmc, but I DID find a lot of supercooled rain
22:41 HighMan Seroster Hail/
22:41 HighMan Wait...
22:41 HighMan Did it freeze instentaneosly? xD
22:42 Thermoelectric Does https://students.autodesk.com/?nd=getpw load for anyone else?
22:42 HighMan White page
22:42 HighMan So no.
22:42 Thermoelectric Okay. Damnit.
22:42 HighMan XD
22:43 Thermoelectric I wonder how I can change CNC coordinates into a image... :/
22:46 HighMan If I remember one of the CB had moose talkng about a program that tests the program...
22:46 HighMan Idk what htough
22:47 Thermoelectric Ooh, a simulator might do it. I shall try that.
22:48 HighMan lol
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22:53 Seroster Douchebag of the day! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds4bRTZfS3g&amp;feature=related
22:53 BotSteve Title: Driver Opens Door On Biker - YouTube
22:54 Seroster HighMan, It was a liquid when it hit my tshirt it was a solid when I got home.
22:54 HighMan That''s supercooled?
22:56 MoxieMike it's supercooled if the impact caused the solidification
22:57 Seroster Probably did
22:59 Thermoelectric This simulator seems to want all the other thingies with the X/Y coordinates. Gah.
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23:31 Thermoelectric CNC simulators are harder than I expected, considering I know absolutely no G-code...
23:38 Cheezmo only CNC stuff I ever programmed was straight from Mastercam 9
23:38 Cheezmo back like 8 years ago
23:38 SparkyProjects Not sure what you're trying to do, but wasn't there something where you could draw in Google sketchup and convert to g-code ?
23:38 SparkyProjects How about reversing that so you see it on sketchup ?
23:39 Cheezmo then I went on to run a giant framerail drill at a steel shop here that ran on an ancient green console with machine code
23:40 Cheezmo http://www.crownwest.ca/graphics/equipment/equip_06.jpg
23:41 Cheezmo beastly sucker
23:45 HighMan Wow... Who knew that rearranging things make the room look bigger.
23:45 Cheezmo Organizational dynamics can make all the difference
23:45 Cheezmo turn a bunch of small floorspaces into a big one! :D
23:48 HighMan lol
23:48 HighMan My room is much cleaner now...
23:50 * IsopropylAlcohol is cleaning his
23:50 IsopropylAlcohol so much computer stuff
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23:53 IsopropylAlcohol yay for freenode
23:53 IsopropylAlcohol broke the 80k user barrier
23:54 HighMan Nice!
23:54 HighMan But... Only 80k?

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