Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-04-08

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00:01 Seroster NOT K&T epictang0
00:02 Seroster Aerial being...?  It's only one wire
00:02 Seroster I was thinking it might be an antennae for... Hell do I know, spying on nazis =P
00:03 SparkyProjects Just  like you might stuff a wire into the back of a FM radio, in the old days you neded to have the aerial higher due to low power transmitters on AM
00:04 SparkyProjects The old long wave, medium wave, and short wave
00:05 Seroster Aye
00:06 Seroster So... It's just a radio antenna?
00:06 Monkeh Probably
00:06 Seroster No fun illuminati or nazi or secret services or free energy, even talking to aliens mojo going on? :(
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00:09 think-1234 ahhh just had molten blob of solder fall on my foot
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00:12 SparkyProjects There's no reasonwhy you can't use the insulators and change the wire to a lentgh tuned to the frequency you need, and connect a good transmitter
00:12 SparkyProjects Except, that is, for the cops knocking on your door
00:16 think-1234 is there mercury in thermostats?
00:18 SparkyProjects Depends on the type
00:18 SparkyProjects Most modern stats have a bi-mtalic strip
00:18 SparkyProjects Heavier duty ones sometimes have a glass vial (mercury tilt switch)
00:18 think-1234 my one has a metalic liquid driping out of it since  a picture fell on it
00:19 SparkyProjects That would be mercury
00:19 think-1234 should i go near it or go out the room
00:21 SparkyProjects Scoop up what you can
00:21 SparkyProjects A tip for picking up small bits would be to pop to the local pharmacy and ask for a syringe
00:21 SparkyProjects Be careful about touching it, being in the same room is ok as long as it isn't heated to a vapout
00:22 think-1234 ok the thermostat is quite hot so it may cause it to vape
00:23 SparkyProjects If the stat is plastic and has not melted, i would say you're safe
00:24 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)
00:24 SparkyProjects Look at the 'toxicity and safety' section, it mentions using an eyedropper
00:24 BotSteve Title: Mercury (element) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:26 Seroster think-1234, You won't die instantly, but don't mess around with mercury if it can be avoided.   The only metal that will drip out of a thermostat at room temperature is mercury (likely)
00:27 think-1234 ok then  i have syringe il just suck it up
00:27 Seroster Yes
00:27 Seroster Put it into a tightly sealed container. Plastic is good, avoid metal.
00:28 SparkyProjects Not sure about disposal, you could call a pharmacy for advice, they may dospose of it for you
00:28 SparkyProjects :/
00:29 Seroster Your local waste management center should be able to handle it
00:29 Seroster I.E any place that handles fluorecent tubes (which contain mercury)
00:29 SparkyProjects He left
00:29 Seroster Bet he got mad =)
00:32 Seroster Natural sources, such as volcanoes, are responsible for approximately half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be divided into the following estimated percentages:[80][81][82]
00:32 Seroster 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999). This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending on the country.[80]
00:32 Seroster I like that people whine about mercury from gold mines getting into rivers. It's 5.5%.... Stop using coal instead.
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01:17 injektion Exsi is only limited to 32GB RAM :/
01:37 HighMan_Eating Who's in the U.S. and goes to K-12 school that has monday off?
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02:22 tonsofpcs hmm
02:23 tonsofpcs epictang0: yea, theres old nike silos all over
02:28 egrsteve morning
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Morning egrsteve.
02:30 egrsteve morning Monkeh|Lap
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02:31 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Up to anything interesting?
02:32 egrsteve not at the moment
02:33 egrsteve if i had free time i might be
02:33 epictang0 i need a damn vacation
02:33 egrsteve i second that
02:33 Monkeh|Lap heh
02:33 epictang0 i can tell already this week is going to suck
02:34 epictang0 and if they are lucky i just might lose it
02:34 epictang0 ugh
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Well, I've just made the first purchase in my decade resistance box project.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Now I just have to find a source of appropriate resistors which isn't obscenely expensive.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap (ie. I need to buy a couple of each value, not 500)
02:36 epictang0 Monkeh|Lap: no samples?
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Suppose I could try for samples.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Give me some manufacturers to hit up :P
02:36 Monkeh|Lap (and no SMD stuff, thank you)
02:37 Monkeh|Lap I kinda think they'd see through a request for 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 1, 2, 3, 10, 20, 30, 100, 200, 300, etc, pretty easily though :P
02:37 egrsteve thinking 24 per decade?
02:37 egrsteve or 48?
02:37 epictang0 it was just a thought...;-)
02:38 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: 24?
02:38 egrsteve 24 per decade is a std stocking for 5%
02:38 egrsteve 48 for 2%
02:38 Monkeh|Lap Hm
02:38 egrsteve 96 for 1%
02:38 Monkeh|Lap I'll be using 1%
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Might as well do it right (ish)
02:39 egrsteve as at each of those values you cover the full range of the decade at the given tolarance
02:49 egrsteve and I killed chat
02:50 HighMan_Eating Monkeh|Lap With the power supply I have... Jacob's Ladder any cahnce?
02:50 Monkeh|Lap ... no.
02:50 Monkeh|Lap Don't try.
02:50 HighMan_Eating Why? :(
02:50 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Nah, chat was dead, you were talking to muscle spasms. ;)
02:50 HighMan_Eating xD
02:51 egrsteve i figured
02:51 HighMan_Eating Hmph.
02:51 HighMan_Eating It'd be really cool though!
02:51 egrsteve jkgjfshlasy
02:51 HighMan_Eating ak;hlbaswlk jsbf; h'gb
02:52 HighMan_Eating Some imitate chris's demonstration of someone groping them self, drooling over the keyboard, and typing with one tooth please.
02:53 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
02:53 HighMan_Eating astro73|alice
02:59 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Think it's worth bothering with a .1 ohm range?
03:00 Monkeh|Lap Considering depending on which set of leads I use I could have from 0.03 to 0.5 ohms resistance in the leads alone.
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03:11 * Guest75979 is exhausted
03:11 Guest75979 wtf
03:11 * Guest75979 is wannabe
03:12 NeWtoz make up your mind
03:12 tgg|wannabe tere
03:12 tgg|wannabe thats better
03:12 * tgg|wannabe is exhausted
03:13 NeWtoz hi exhausted
03:13 tgg|wannabe hi.  hows you?
03:13 NeWtoz good, just enjoying cleaning
03:13 NeWtoz well, enjoying the effects of cleaning
03:14 tgg|wannabe such as?
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03:14 NeWtoz having a clean place?
03:14 tgg|wannabe zomg toast!  i just eated you!
03:14 tgg|wannabe ahhhh ok
03:15 NeWtoz ZOMBIE TOAST
03:16 zombie1987 this nick is actually registered to me lol
03:16 ZombieToast I forget if this one is..
03:17 zombie1987 worked sucked.
03:17 zombie1987 what else is new
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03:24 hhrlisa Wanna know how i know I'm pregnant. I'm drinking a slurpee eating a donut and i really want funions....
03:25 ZombieToast I guess it was registered..
03:25 HighMan hhrlisa Usted tiene una infección por levaduras.
03:25 hhrlisa i have no idea what that means
03:25 HighMan Don't translate it....
03:25 HighMan And if you are pregnant, that isn't so good for the baby.
03:26 hhrlisa i google translated it
03:26 hhrlisa lol
03:27 HighMan ...
03:28 Monkeh|Lap ZombieToast: It's not registered.
03:29 ZombieToast Then how could I ghost it?
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Because you were logged in to the same account.
03:29 Monkeh|Lap I can ghost myself no matter the nick so long as both clients are logged in under the same account.
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03:31 Monkeh|Lap For example.
03:31 Monkeh|Lap You'll note that nick isn't registered.
03:36 hhrlisa mmmmmmmmm slurpee
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03:50 drewa Hello?!
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03:58 Sgt_Lemming so... my housemate who changed the modem password, changed it back
03:58 Sgt_Lemming and is studiously ignoring me :-P
03:59 hhrlisa lol
04:00 * egrsteve fires noodle cannon clearing out any remaining zombies
04:00 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
04:02 hhrlisa Hey steve
04:06 * egrsteve is lurking
04:07 * hhrlisa is drinking a slurpee
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04:21 wannabe1987 found shoelaces and a high stop light for the car, but no blinker....meijer was out of them :(
04:21 wannabe1987 now going home
04:21 wannabe1987 bye
04:22 hhrlisa night
04:22 wannabe1987 eventually anyway :P
04:22 wannabe1987 and then sleep.  church at 9:30 tomorrow
04:22 wannabe1987 o.o
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04:55 coleco asdd
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05:01 wannabe-zz night all!
05:01 hhrlisa night!
05:01 wannabe-zz church (easter!) tomorrow and i'm beyond tired.....
05:07 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
05:07 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw BatSteve 23.20 hours ago at 2012-04-07 05:54:58 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 05:07:16 UTC
05:07 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
05:07 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
05:07 hhrlisa .insult
05:07 BotSteve Hey, hhrlisa, your mom is so fat, fat people run around her for exercise.
05:14 lwq_laptop lol
05:18 lwq_laptop wow this explained alot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-N_vN_tmA0&feature=g-vrec&context=G2e354c7RVAAAAAAAACw
05:18 BotSteve Title: Explaining USB 3.0 - YouTube
05:21 * egrsteve figures sleep is a neat concept
05:21 lwq_laptop sleep is for pussies :P
05:21 lwq_laptop jk
05:38 epictang0 you are what you eat...:-)
05:39 epictang0 in which case i am a carrot...nom nom nom
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05:44 lwq_laptop lol
05:44 lwq_laptop i havent dont that before
05:44 lwq_laptop Toastdude: you here?
05:44 Toastdude Yup
05:45 lwq_laptop we never talk anymore
05:45 Toastdude I'm sorry...
05:47 lwq_laptop new programing language. pythong :P
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06:56 lwq_laptop lol
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08:57 Experimentonomen *yawn*
09:11 Experimentonomen .minecraft
09:11 BotSteve Experimentonomen: GuardianZozo's minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: DOWN
09:11 BotSteve Experimentonomen: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
09:11 BotSteve Experimentonomen: PacketHumper's minecraft server: minecraft.nerderosity.com:25565. Server Status: UP
09:11 BotSteve Experimentonomen: BitViper's minecraft server: minecraft.bitviper.org:25565. Server Status: UP
09:13 angy lot of choice :)
09:13 Experimentonomen hm packethumper,s server status sez up but all i get is a "can't resolve host name" hmmm
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09:13 ajcc morning
09:13 Experimentonomen g'day aj
09:13 angy 173.165.118.92
09:14 ajcc tidying like it's sunday :)
09:14 ajcc dishes done, recycle done, now breakfast
09:15 ajcc Experimentonomen: how's it going?
09:15 Experimentonomen listenin to some tunez on teh Pamp
09:17 ajcc ah, what's the verdict?
09:17 Experimentonomen its definately one of the better amps i've built/heard
09:18 ajcc :)
09:18 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/A5zLE.png <-- da circuit
09:19 ajcc you've tested the amp up to 100MegHz?
09:20 Experimentonomen thats just for the frq response sim
09:22 ajcc ok :)
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09:26 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/GWqx0.png
09:26 ajcc wow, it does a really good job up to 3MHz
09:26 ajcc that thing is more linear than a ruler!
09:27 Experimentonomen in reality the output turns into a triangular wave around 30kHz
09:27 Experimentonomen just like most other amps
09:28 ajcc didn't know that was the case, it that because of the turn on and turn off delay, or what it's called, switching delay
09:28 ajcc ?
09:29 Experimentonomen its a combination of propagation delay and RD time constants such as the gate charge of the fets and many other variables
09:29 Experimentonomen RC*
09:29 ajcc hm, RC is resistor capacitive, is it a charging and discharging delay?
09:29 Experimentonomen yes
09:30 ajcc hm, I'm starting to get a clue why RF circuits would be really hard to build now
09:30 ajcc :)
09:31 Experimentonomen in RF circuits you have other issues, such as every wire turning into inductors at higher frequencies
09:32 ajcc right, which would counteract the signal? (in lack of a better word)
09:33 Experimentonomen not just that, but act as antennas, radiating your signal into the air, possibly disturbing important radio stuff
09:34 Experimentonomen i built a smps on a piece of stripboard once that turned analog tv into a gray screen
09:34 ajcc oh, :)
09:35 Experimentonomen and i've built class d amplifiers that were clearly audible all over the AM band
09:35 ajcc what is class d?
09:35 Experimentonomen switching amplifier, pulse width modulation is the amplifying element
09:36 ajcc ah, I see
09:39 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Gkf5bCNiM&amp;feature=relmfu <-- the last class d i built before i quit
09:39 BotSteve Title: Prototype class d amp driving 2 ohms - YouTube
09:40 ajcc oh, it's been a long long time since I heard antiloop
09:42 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tEMZtQUpDY <-- the original p channel project
09:42 BotSteve Title: P Channel mosfet amp - YouTube
09:46 Experimentonomen i also have a mono amp built in 100% "point to point" wiring that uses all PNP output transistors
09:46 ajcc oh, point to point :)
09:47 ajcc I like those solder bridges
09:47 ajcc hm, maybe it's not the name :/
09:48 ajcc ah, solder lug therminal block strip
09:48 ajcc terminal
09:53 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/G0rIK
09:54 BotSteve Title: PNPamp - Imgur
09:55 ajcc hehe, wow
10:05 Experimentonomen that one was born after faulty driver transistors blew up the NPN complements
10:06 ajcc ouch
10:06 ajcc transistors are very good at conduction well, so well that they destroy theirselfs in the progress :)
10:07 ajcc oh well, back to tidying up, ttyl #thegeekgroup and Experimentonomen
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11:21 ajcc done hoovering the floors now :), and I moved my eMac next to my PC, it needs some love. and I needed some coffee and sweets
11:29 Experimentonomen wb aj
11:29 ajcc ty
11:30 * Experimentonomen kinda wonders how old aj is
11:30 ajcc 25, still 25 :)
11:30 Experimentonomen oki
11:31 Experimentonomen aj, got any pics of ur room ?
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11:33 ajcc nope, I could snap some when I'm done tidying it up, it's not super duper interesting :), the desk are very cluttered
11:35 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/covIL <-- dats wut my place looks like when the floor is not covered in cardboard boxes, potato chip bags, candy wrappers and soda bottles
11:35 BotSteve Title: Lab remake - Imgur
11:37 ajcc k., very tidy:), I like your electronics desk
11:39 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/xybFk.jpg <-- usually looks like that
11:40 ajcc you need some five or six dozen part bins on the wall, along with two or three sorting drawers in order to have a clean electronics desk :)
11:41 ajcc I really want to find some big and flat boxes to store ongoing projects in
11:41 Experimentonomen i looked at such storage systems but they aree just too bleedy expensive :/
11:41 ajcc indeed
11:49 ajcc Sparky had some neat storage solution, he made his own shelfs with storage boxes instead of normal flat shelfs :)
11:50 ajcc http://youtu.be/IMPl4fYGszQ this one
11:50 BotSteve Title: Organiser Cabinet - YouTube
11:50 ajcc quite a neat solution
11:51 * Experimentonomen took out the battery from his camcorder and soldered a usb cable to the cameras battery input
11:52 ajcc :O
11:52 ajcc doesn't sound like a good solution
11:54 Experimentonomen that damn thing is a power hog, emties the battery in no time :/
11:55 Experimentonomen ok uploadin a short vid of the p channel amp
11:56 ajcc maybe the batteries are bad? :)
11:56 Experimentonomen no
11:56 Sgt_Lemming Soo... I got a bit bored, and made the ultimate machine on newegg
11:57 Sgt_Lemming anyone care to guess how much I got to?
11:57 ajcc $200k?
11:57 Experimentonomen its a noname chinacam from ebay
11:57 Sgt_Lemming no
11:57 ajcc $20k?
11:57 Sgt_Lemming up a bit
11:57 ajcc $30k?
11:57 Experimentonomen 50k
11:57 Sgt_Lemming 41k
11:57 ajcc well, at least the dollar is low :)
11:58 Sgt_Lemming indeed
11:58 Sgt_Lemming Dual 8 core xeons, 128GB ram, 4 GTX680s, 4 600GB SSD's, 8 4TB hdd's, 2 blu-ray burners, 8 24" HP pro series monitors
11:58 ajcc why two burners?
11:58 Sgt_Lemming shiggles
11:58 ajcc eight monitors?!
11:58 Experimentonomen and why so many gfx cards ?
11:58 ajcc who are you? Neo?
11:59 Sgt_Lemming I'd love to have that many monitors
11:59 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, why not?
11:59 Sgt_Lemming it
11:59 ajcc 8 monitors, like a stock broker!
11:59 Sgt_Lemming it's an if I won lotto machine
11:59 Experimentonomen im happy with my single Zotac GT440 and a 42" moniter
12:00 Sgt_Lemming http://realtimesoft.com/multimon/gallery_browse.asp?date=desc&amp;nummon=true&amp;mon=desc
12:00 BotSteve Title: Multi-Monitor Gallery - Record 954
12:00 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQPCaJMUOoE
12:00 BotSteve Title: P channel amplifier - YouTube
12:01 ajcc mismatching monitors hurt my soul
12:01 Sgt_Lemming Uses for multiple monitors: Trading, surfing, telling folks they're for "keeping tabs on the people of your planet"
12:01 ajcc :)
12:01 ajcc I wonder how much a multi monitor stand cost though
12:02 ajcc seems like a thing that could be insanely expensive
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12:03 HighMan Morning al
12:03 ajcc morning
12:03 HighMan *all
12:03 ajcc aw :/
12:03 Sgt_Lemming ajcc http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-atlasultraelite.asp
12:03 BotSteve Title: Zenview Atlas Ultra Elite: 8-Screen Professional Display with Top-Quality 30" LCD Screens, Wide Viewing Angles
12:03 ajcc as I said, insanely expensive
12:04 Sgt_Lemming it's actually not that bad, $11'555AUD
12:04 Sgt_Lemming for 8 30" monitors
12:04 ajcc oh, monitors included?
12:04 Sgt_Lemming yes
12:04 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/85ag7.jpg <-- thats all i ever need
12:05 Electricguy an update on my DIY thermometer.. it's now a dual sensor type with a smaller serial terminal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lm0CdlALyY
12:05 BotSteve Title: Arduino wireless thermometer update - YouTube
12:05 ajcc I guess it's alrigh then if the monitors are any good
12:05 ajcc Unkown Unkown Unkown :)
12:06 Sgt_Lemming http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-arena24x.asp <--- is the one I'd like
12:06 BotSteve Title: Zenview Arena 24X: Innovative Six-Screen Display with 24" Central Workspace
12:06 Sgt_Lemming they are samsung monitors
12:06 Electricguy unkown?
12:06 ajcc Electricguy: Experimentonomen posted a vid and showed his mp3-player, it said unkown, unkown, unkown
12:07 Electricguy mkay
12:07 Sgt_Lemming my current setup is a 24" 1920x1200 centre
12:07 Sgt_Lemming 2 20" 4:3 1600x1200 screens either side
12:07 Electricguy got a pair of 19" 4:3 screens here
12:07 Sgt_Lemming but one of them runs on a USB adaptor atm which fails hardcore
12:08 ajcc Electricguy: you said you didn't want to do datalogging, and yet you send the data to a palm compy? :)
12:08 Electricguy i'm not logging it..
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12:08 Electricguy it's sending the data to a serial terminal that's used as a remote display
12:08 ajcc how is the palm modified? custom software?
12:08 Electricguy very big difference between displaying something on a screen and logging data
12:09 Electricguy the only mod is a 3 pin female header for the serial comm
12:09 Electricguy it's running ptelnet as software
12:09 Electricguy Pocketerm works good too
12:09 ajcc hm, ok
12:10 Electricguy also, that player is displaying unknown, not unkown
12:10 ajcc yes, it does.
12:10 ajcc unknown
12:10 Electricguy yes. not unkown as you typed before
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12:11 Sgt_Lemming http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131817 <--- motherboard for the lottle machine
12:11 ajcc and you're not logging the data, only displaying it remoterly on a terminal running on a palm, with a soldered in serial port. rodger that.
12:11 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS Dual LGA 2011 Intel C602 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI EEB Intel Motherboard
12:11 Sgt_Lemming it's a fricking nice board
12:11 Electricguy also, it's a Handspring PDA running Palm OS, so it's not really a palem
12:12 Electricguy palm*
12:12 Experimentonomen cprossu might object :P
12:12 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu can go get boned :-P
12:12 Sgt_Lemming I like intel stuff
12:12 Electricguy that looks like a nice mobo indeed
12:13 Electricguy no ISA slots though! >_>
12:13 Sgt_Lemming lol
12:13 ajcc Sgt_Lemming: :), I really love those built into the cpu memory controllers on the xeons
12:13 Experimentonomen Electricguy, i havent seen a isa slot since the socket7 days
12:13 Electricguy me neither
12:14 ajcc the pentium II cards had them too
12:15 Sgt_Lemming pentium II cards are SECC not ISA
12:15 Electricguy not all of them
12:15 ajcc ok, some Pentium II cards featured ISA slots
12:15 ajcc god...
12:15 Sgt_Lemming you mean motherboards
12:15 Electricguy there are in fact new mobos with ISA slots. but they are damn expensive
12:15 Sgt_Lemming not cards
12:15 Electricguy MOTHERCARD!!!
12:16 Electricguy that just sounded wrong.. lol
12:16 Experimentonomen moderkaka ;)
12:16 Electricguy lol
12:16 Electricguy mothercake
12:16 ajcc Sgt_Lemming: No, I didn't mean the CPU slot :), didn't know it was called SECC. Hm.
12:16 Sgt_Lemming Single Edge Card Connector
12:17 Sgt_Lemming gah
12:17 ajcc that a disapointingly generic name :P
12:17 ajcc ;)
12:17 Sgt_Lemming Single Edge Contact Cartridge
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12:23 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slot_2 <--- ajcc
12:23 BotSteve Title: Slot 2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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12:24 ajcc http://imgur.com/Fm6dn these are my slot-1 mobos, and a socket-a(?) mobo :)
12:24 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
12:24 ajcc they are different brands, the top center is Soyo, bellow that an Intel board from a HP and to the right an AOpen board.
12:25 Electricguy heh, long time since i had so old mobos laying around XD
12:25 ajcc :)
12:25 Electricguy oldest one i got is some MSI P4 mobo
12:26 ajcc Sgt_Lemming: ah, I see the SECC thing.
12:26 ajcc the oldest mobo I have is some no name 486
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12:30 ajcc ttp://imgur.com/hKtkX yay, 486!
12:31 ajcc I have to repair the battery thing, it had a 3x AA battery pack connected to it before.
12:32 Experimentonomen i threw away all my old pc stuff years ago
12:32 ajcc I've thrown away a lot of computers, monitors, harddrives and junk, something along three cars full of computer junk
12:33 ajcc I've saved the 486 because it's the oly motherboard I have that takes 30-pin SIMM's
12:33 Seroster Svenskarnas timme är slagen?
12:33 Experimentonomen when i moved, i drove like 5-6 absolutely full cars of junk to the scrap yard, so full ca<rs that ther was barely any space left for the driver
12:34 ajcc Seroster: yep, fast det är mer show&tell @ #thegeekgroup just nu, och den senaste timmen eller så :)
12:34 Seroster lol
12:35 ajcc :P
12:36 ajcc klarade du dig undan snön?, började snöa ännu mer när du loggat ut
12:37 ajcc Experimentonomen: same story for me, junk is just too damn cheap :P
12:37 Seroster '-'
12:37 Seroster Jofan, men det var kallt om kuken på vägen hem
12:38 ajcc haha
12:39 Seroster Hade fan tunna bomullsbyxor på mig, en rejäl tröja och en oljerock.   Fick köra med visiret uppe för att det immade igen annars, och det motsvarar typ -20 om du räknar in vinden =P
12:39 Experimentonomen Seroster har ingen kuk :P han bara ljuger ;p
12:40 ajcc gisses
12:40 ajcc om du inte svor mer än vanligt då så vet jag inte vad :P
12:40 Experimentonomen hm
12:40 JA12 so you guys are avoiding nsfw by changing language? ;)
12:41 ajcc JA12: we are talking about Seroster's mad motorbike ride home in the -20C wind
12:41 JA12 ajcc: I know
12:42 Seroster JA12, My toes are black... IS that... good?
12:42 ajcc ...:/, the finish guy is reading your mind Seroster
12:42 Seroster FINNISH!?
12:42 ajcc Finnish, sory
12:42 Seroster LIIIIPA NIIIIIVEN!
12:43 Seroster JA12, you speak swedish?
12:43 JA12 Seroster: only what they taught us in school and I've forgot 3/4 of it
12:43 JA12 :P
12:44 ajcc :)
12:44 ajcc Seroster we should travel Sweden and promote the teaching of Finnish to all Swedes
12:49 JA12 if I was living in the west coast then maybe my swedish skills were much better
12:49 ajcc JA12: oh, since it's easter, have you eaten some Mämmi yet?
12:49 JA12 I haven't no
12:50 JA12 learning swedish in school and then forgetting most of it is like a wasted effort. quite annoying actually
12:51 ajcc I've forgoten to grab some this easter, but at least I got some proppper rye bread, Finnish rye bread made from sourdough. it's imossible to buy it here in the south of Sweden :/
12:52 JA12 what the.. impossible?
12:53 ajcc Yeah, you can only get the Fazer ryebread it seems. My whole family have been looking all over Malmö but we have given up.
12:54 JA12 I thought there's not much difference in foods, at least when it comes to northern scandinavia
12:55 ajcc yeah, somehow we are left out down in Skåne :/
12:56 JA12 :/
12:56 Experimentonomen skåne = denmark ;p
12:56 ajcc it's very easy to find if you just get to Gothenburg and above.
12:57 Seroster Lol
12:57 Seroster JA12, where in finland?
12:57 Seroster Åbo?
12:57 JA12 eastern finland
12:58 Seroster Ocrap
12:58 Seroster Wellwell.
12:58 Seroster ajcc, we should make a hackerspace in...
12:58 Seroster Not malmö, lund.
12:59 Seroster My grandparents have a huge damn mansion in broby, but that's not really a town, it's rather a hole in the ground...
12:59 Seroster Anyway
12:59 Seroster cya
12:59 JA12 Seroster: if I was living in Åbo maybe my swedish skills were much better than they are :/
12:59 ajcc Seroster: are you in Lund?, it would be neat with a propper hackingspace that isn't students playground or lefties computer dungeon ;P
12:59 Seroster I'm in kristianstad, sadly.
13:00 ajcc :/
13:00 Seroster I hate this town and if I had the autority I'd level it with an army of bulldozers, pave the entire town and never look back at it.
13:00 ajcc aren't there some left out Amiga geeks still living in Kristianstad?
13:00 einball_ hiho :)
13:00 Seroster Let it become a huge parking lot for the streetracer dystopia =)
13:00 ajcc haha, like a William Gibson novell
13:01 ajcc I love the shopping center they visist out in the desert in Count Zero
13:01 ajcc imagine riding your motor bike in an abandoned shopping center surrounded by abbandoned high ways
13:02 einball_ <3
13:02 ajcc :), hey einball_
13:03 einball_ Eastertime is fun time
13:03 einball_ hiding eastereggs in software :o)
13:03 ajcc hehe
13:04 einball_ (and listening to skillet, because it made me addicted to that band again :P )
13:04 einball_ Starting a website for my pick and place project
13:04 einball_ and doing fun stuff at all
13:04 JA12 whatwhat
13:05 einball_ (did my own webserver yesterday - I've been surprised how easy this is)
13:05 JA12 einball_: do you have material online already?
13:05 einball_ JA12: not really .. just one vid
13:05 einball_ and much conversation in german langauge
13:05 einball_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mP_BH9JTzE < This was the first and yet last video
13:05 BotSteve Title: PnP #1: First steps with USBCNC and moving axes - YouTube
13:05 einball_ Started out controlling the USBCNC controller
13:06 ajcc Skillet's singer got a really good voice
13:06 ajcc very addictive :)
13:06 einball_ The main singer or Jen Ledger (drummer)
13:06 JA12 einball_: thanks. I'll check that out right away
13:06 Seroster ya peeps
13:06 ajcc the guitar guy
13:07 einball_ JA12: I have a dispensing unit that will help me to dispense solder paste in revision 2
13:07 einball_ yup :)
13:07 einball_ The control module is nearly finished
13:07 einball_ I started designing the machine corpse this mornign
13:09 einball_ And in a while I hope to shock my monster to life :D
13:11 einball_ and then frankenball will take over the world :o
13:11 ajcc hehe
13:11 ajcc IT LIVES!
13:12 einball_ "Awake and Alive"
13:12 einball_ =)
13:12 ajcc :)
13:13 ajcc I can't remember any movie quote correctly ;P
13:13 Experimentonomen einball_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQPCaJMUOoE
13:13 BotSteve Title: P channel amplifier - YouTube
13:14 Electricguy For those that didn't see it; an update on the arduino thermometer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lm0CdlALyY
13:14 BotSteve Title: Wireless Arduino thermometer update - YouTube
13:14 Electricguy quite a major update from before
13:16 JA12 einball_: cool project. there are some p&p projects out there but iirc most are put together by using existing cnc router and convert instructions to g-code so I'm not sure how much those could help
13:17 einball_ JA12: I try to design my own software for that by using a numeric control designed for C
13:17 einball_ called USBCNC
13:17 einball_ but I'll do my own machine
13:17 einball_ and use OpenCV for chip recognition and correction
13:18 einball_ Experimentonomen: Like always: Well done! Keep up the good work. Iam sure, you would do fine if you applied for some kind of engineering job :)
13:19 Experimentonomen einball_, i dunno wut to put this amp in though :/
13:19 einball_ XD
13:20 einball_ Experimentonomen: your problems beat the shit out of my brain ...
13:20 Experimentonomen hm
13:20 einball_ I'd love my life if I had only those probs :D
13:20 einball_ JA12: http://nerdhybride.de is the domain I just registered. Will take another few days for the DNS Caches to recognize it.
13:21 ajcc haha
13:22 einball_ What's so funny ajcc ? ;)
13:22 ajcc that your life would be wonderful if you only had to figure out were to store your amp :)
13:22 einball_ Oh err .. yes
13:23 einball_ Experimentonomen: Come on .. get a job and do something useful and awesome with your time :|
13:23 ajcc I just got a wonderful picture in my head with Simon from the Yogscast (seen them?), standing in his room and staring at an amplifier.
13:23 einball_ Dunno him
13:24 ajcc with Lewis asking him about the amplifier... ok
13:24 ajcc hold
13:24 einball_ I need a tool to collaborate with my mate over the internet
13:24 JA12 einball_: of course I can't find an article that I thought I've seen before but I did find this (I'm sure you're aware of it too) http://code.google.com/p/openpnp/
13:24 BotSteve Title: openpnp - Open Source SMD Pick and Place Hardware and Software - Google Project Hosting
13:24 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/show?p=2gwuJ0CezAk&amp;tracker=show0 the essence of Simon and Lewis :)
13:24 JA12 einball_: thanks for the link
13:24 BotSteve Title: Yogpod Animations - YouTube
13:25 einball_ wordpress is cool, but it's no good for discussions and what decisions one made and why
13:25 einball_ one sec ajcc, JA12 striked first
13:25 ajcc :), no worry
13:25 einball_ ah that one ... yes JA12, I know that. But I want to learn things so I won't contribute to this project :)
13:26 Experimentonomen hm its snowing here :/
13:26 einball_ ajcc: uhm ... what episode should I wath then? ;)
13:26 ajcc einball_: hmm, I'm 31 is really fun :)
13:26 ajcc 32
13:26 ajcc I'm 32 years old
13:27 ajcc got to love the MS Paint animations x)
13:27 einball_ uhm yes ... It's not funny at all for me :P
13:28 einball_ MAybe Iam too young for that kind of brainfart :)
13:28 Electricguy of course. You are german :P you guys don't have any humor ;)
13:28 JA12 einball_: you don't have to. I was just thinking that there are some open source projects that you can look up and learn from. I also like how you mentioned in your video description that you're going to make it portable
13:28 einball_ prejudice!
13:28 einball_ Iam able to troll ppl :D
13:28 Electricguy i chat a lot with a german guy.. he's the best joke killer EVER XD totally fails on ALL jokes.. lol :P
13:29 ajcc at least he doesn't spend half an hour correcting you ;)
13:29 einball_ JA12: yes. That is not my idea .... A friend works with me in parallel on his machine and he wants to take that thing with him.
13:29 einball_ Electricguy: :o
13:29 einball_ Maybe he's fro east germany ;)
13:30 Electricguy north
13:30 einball_ even worse ...
13:30 einball_ =)
13:30 Electricguy lulz XD
13:30 Electricguy like if i pull a joke, he responds with like "no?"
13:30 Electricguy ... -,-
13:30 Electricguy COME ON! IT WAS A JOKE!! XD
13:30 einball_ no?
13:30 ajcc einball_ just made a joke and you didn't get it :/
13:30 ajcc a very bitter joke
13:30 ajcc :P
13:31 einball_ ajcc: I got that joke ;)
13:31 ajcc einball_: no, Electricguy didn't get the east germany thing
13:31 * Experimentonomen is listening to music on his half broken ZAP SR500
13:31 einball_ Well, that may be true too ...
13:31 einball_ ajcc: thought you were referring to me as a GRAMMAR NAZI
13:32 einball_ For teh fuhrers semicolon
13:32 ajcc that would be so wrong on so many levels ;)
13:32 ajcc haha
13:32 einball_ omg .. that reminds me of ...
13:33 einball_ http://theoatmeal.com/comics/atheism
13:33 BotSteve Title: War in the name of atheism - The Oatmeal
13:33 ajcc <3 The Oatmeal
13:34 einball_ In ze name of der fuhrers square roots, ve bring ze BLITZKRIEG! :D
13:34 ajcc haha
13:34 einball_ The authors notes are the best thing in those comics "ut also because I wanted an excuse to draw the Nazis going to war in the name of math and facial hair."
13:34 ajcc I love the mustage on the tank
13:35 einball_ It's a german thing I guess
13:35 einball_ (I love that 80's mustache too :D )
13:35 ajcc :)
13:36 einball_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOi2nVB31GM&amp;t=1h5m55s < pink floyds drummer had the mother of mustache
13:36 BotSteve Title: Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii - Director's cut - YouTube
13:36 ajcc yes!
13:36 ajcc that's the mustage
13:37 einball_ :o{)
13:37 ajcc x)
13:38 einball_ (Now I feel like the "fuck yeah" meme)
13:38 ajcc http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/987/fyeah.jpg
13:38 ajcc yeah
13:39 ajcc I think a 1/3 of all my computer ussage is spent on Google Picture search
13:39 Electricguy also, those are not "MS-Paint animations" those are rage comics :P
13:39 einball_ :D
13:40 Electricguy i <3 the megusta face XD
13:40 einball_ uhm .. Dunno ... the bitch please is also nice
13:40 Electricguy yeah
13:40 einball_ I thought of a tshirt for university
13:40 Electricguy they are all awesome XD
13:40 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxzYqxhf0aU thats how every correction on irc sounds in my head ;P
13:40 einball_ not all
13:40 BotSteve Title: Bill Hader and Conan O'brien go nerdy for Jessica Szohar - YouTube
13:40 JA12 speaking of mustache.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=4wzAuX4T83Y#t=89s
13:40 Electricguy NO! looks epic too :P
13:40 BotSteve Title: top gear build an electric car part 1 - YouTube
13:40 einball_ I hate the forever alone
13:41 einball_ yes .. the NO :D
13:41 ajcc the me gusta face looks like someone on the toliet after a visit on taco bell
13:41 Electricguy ajcc, as i get the hint, this is for you :) persoanlly from ME. http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/546321_270025999751989_162594613828462_588999_1085427573_n.jpg
13:42 einball_ ajcc: hehehe
13:42 ajcc so... I don't get it, you're correcting me all the time, and you're telling me to shut up? *we got a bad ass over here
13:43 einball_ ajcc: not certainly true ..
13:43 Electricguy i use to correct a lot of people. but you are the only one bitching back about it ;)
13:43 einball_ WE HAVE A TROLL OVER HERE
13:43 Electricguy einball_, i'm not a troll. You are! :)
13:43 Electricguy feel honored
13:43 ajcc you're the one not getting the joke :)
13:43 einball_ Electricguy: Well ... "of people. but" goes to "of people but"
13:43 Experimentonomen hm
13:44 einball_ or you have to write a capital letter ...
13:44 Electricguy !?!?!? get your shit together guys so humans can understand what you mean. 2 guys trying to make a joke and holding like 2 other conversations at the same really doesn't work that good..
13:45 ajcc /ignore Electricguy
13:45 ajcc :)
13:45 ajcc my life is complete
13:45 Electricguy do it if you want. i don't give a crap as you don't add anything useful to my life :)
13:45 einball_ Electricguy: all your base are belong to us!
13:46 ajcc they set us up the bomb
13:46 Electricguy oh! i got a nice trance song of that! :P
13:46 einball_ now bend over, I get the lash
13:46 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3MLbVjZ5sc&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=11&amp;feature=plpp_video
13:46 JA12 I'm still trying to get over the fact that a german made a joke about grammar nazis ^^
13:46 BotSteve Title: EK TRANCE - All Your Bass (Lebrisc Remix) - YouTube
13:47 einball_ JA12: o_O why? ;)
13:47 JA12 einball_: I wouldn't even consider using the word "nazi" when talking to a german person or if there's german peeps around
13:47 Electricguy lulz
13:48 einball_ JA12: Well ... Iam not a german guy .. Iam a troll :o)
13:49 Electricguy a German one
13:49 einball_ JA12: And besides of that: I'm not german. I'm from teh internetz and I don't feel guilty for the things some guy with a mustache did 60 years ago ;)
13:49 Experimentonomen einball_ = a german troll ;p
13:49 Experimentonomen ;)
13:50 einball_ and besides of THAT, iam awesome ;)
13:50 Electricguy Hitler must have been the only artist that failed SO DAMN HARD as he did
13:50 einball_ Electricguy: Well ... He raged and took over the country .. I don't see any fails :P
13:50 Electricguy and later, he turned into a cat http://www.n0.se/f/f/cd676_kitler1.jpg?r=9874
13:51 einball_ And then he wanted to take over the world ... He tried so hard to make his dream reality
13:51 Electricguy you lost 2 world wars, please don't be cocky :)
13:51 einball_ We all dream of world domination, don't we?
13:51 einball_ Electricguy: Not me ... ^^
13:51 Electricguy i don't... XD
13:51 JA12 you guys are about to give a perfect example why I avoid the word =)
13:51 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8txk6EhYZKA <-- that depicts hitler pretty well :P
13:51 BotSteve Title: Glukoza - Schweine - YouTube
13:52 einball_ JA12: whst word? nazi, hitler, grammar or cocky?
13:52 einball_ or even "troll"? :o
13:52 JA12 nazi
13:52 JA12 or hitler
13:52 einball_ these are two words, not one
13:53 einball_ damnit
13:53 Electricguy deep shit dude!
13:53 einball_ The openpnp site does not want to unveil the truth about the image recognition
13:54 einball_ *they use
13:55 einball_ Dafuq I just discussed with you?
13:56 einball_ :P
13:56 JA12 I've worked with machine vision stuff before
13:56 einball_ You did? Cool, so program this for me plz :P
13:57 einball_ I'll have to learn all that stuff
13:57 einball_ after the hardware design is finished
13:59 einball_ (talking about mustache ... http://frupic.frubar.net/24901 )
13:59 BotSteve Title: Frubar FruPic - Picture Upload
13:59 einball_ Me gusta! :)
13:59 einball_ JA12: Looks like the openpnp is not really advanced
14:00 JA12 einball_: I woulnd't know, I just googled it
14:00 einball_ oh wrong words ... "did not really make progress since it has been featured on HaD"
14:01 JA12 einball_: I remember seeing a few projects that are not g-code conversions
14:01 JA12 einball_: that _might_ help
14:03 einball_ hmm
14:07 einball_ I really want to start a company ...
14:09 einball_ "Bleeding Silicone" :)
14:10 einball_ -e
14:10 Electricguy so, silicone that never solidifies? XD
14:10 einball_ without the e :D
14:10 einball_ silicon
14:10 Electricguy that would = short circuit :P
14:11 Electricguy as the silicon bleeds out the magic smoke when used improperly :D
14:11 einball_ Yes :)
14:11 einball_ Medicine related applications
14:11 einball_ medicine and airospace
14:11 einball_ *aero
14:11 einball_ (what's up with my brain toady? :-/)
14:14 einball_ maybe too much awesomeness today :)
14:15 HugeCreature Rawr!
14:16 HugeCreature :)
14:17 einball JA12: http://h11.abload.de/img/dscn0366qik8s.jpg working on it
14:17 einball the controller arrived yesterday and one powersupply is too large to fit in there -> need to get a smaller 24V, 13A
14:17 einball and a mITX system is missing
14:22 einball I want to thank the god that invented the carriage system in the 19" format
14:23 einball :)
14:30 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
14:30 Electricguy hey hey mash :)
14:31 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon mash
14:31 mashpriborintorg hiya
14:31 einball hello mashpriborintorg
14:31 Electricguy mashpriborintorg, a little (quite big really) update on my arduino thermometer! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lm0CdlALyY
14:31 mashpriborintorg happy easter sunday
14:31 BotSteve Title: Wireless Arduino thermometer update - YouTube
14:32 Electricguy happy easter to you too! :)
14:32 mashpriborintorg yeah, I've seem it already
14:32 Electricguy ahh :)
14:32 mashpriborintorg this old pda makes a quite handy little terminal
14:32 Electricguy indeed
14:32 Electricguy and it's AWESOME that it takes TTL signals straight in
14:33 Electricguy just to directly hook it to a µC or whatever :)
14:33 Electricguy no damn RS232 converter in between
14:33 einball Ah the PDA terminal
14:33 einball I've also got a PDA now, maybe I can be of your assistance
14:33 einball s/your/any
14:34 Electricguy mkay
14:35 mashpriborintorg seems Chris and mosse picked up something interesting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisbokt/6905607896/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisbokt/6905656838/
14:35 BotSteve Title: Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
14:35 Electricguy this old handspring Visor PDA draws damn little power! i had it on for about 11 hours yesterday. only one notch on the battery meter was used
14:35 Electricguy mash, yeah :P it looks cool
14:35 mashpriborintorg it may be a stellar tracking navigation device
14:36 Electricguy yeah i was sort of thinking about something like that too
14:36 mashpriborintorg mounted on the top of an aircraft frame
14:36 Electricguy looks like old avionics almost
14:36 mashpriborintorg must be 60's vintage
14:36 Electricguy it's VERY similar to the 50's radar modules i scrapped a while back
14:36 Electricguy yeah, 50's-60's
14:37 einball It's a naval compas
14:37 einball +s
14:37 Electricguy do you know for sure?
14:37 mashpriborintorg looks more aircraft grade than naval grade to me
14:37 Electricguy yeah. surely some aircraft stuff
14:38 einball It's too heavy for aircraft
14:38 Electricguy pretty much ALL 50-60's aircraft gear was powdercoated black XD
14:38 Electricguy dude! no way..
14:38 mashpriborintorg in these times, aircrafts were damn heavy :p
14:38 Electricguy the combat plane radar modules i scrapped were about 40kg's each..
14:39 einball Yup, but they cannot afford that much weight on an aircraft .. look at all those gears and motors .. iam pretty sure this is NOT an aircraft thingie
14:39 Electricguy that was ONLY the radar part between the waveguide and the control panel
14:39 ajcc you scrapped a combat plane?, I take back all my rudeness and lift my hat
14:39 Electricguy only the radar modules
14:39 Electricguy lots of fun stuff in them
14:40 Electricguy PACKED with vacuum tubes and HV trafos
14:40 mashpriborintorg I have this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/4089467212/
14:40 BotSteve Title: Vintage Sperry amplifier | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
14:40 Electricguy too bad all the stuff were made for 400Hz! -,-
14:40 mashpriborintorg WW2 vintage and in as-new condition
14:40 mashpriborintorg well, 1952 actually
14:41 Electricguy this is the plane model the radar stuff came from http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_32_Lansen
14:41 BotSteve Title: Saab 32 Lansen - Wikipedia
14:41 Electricguy had like 8 modules
14:41 Electricguy size of a big trashcan
14:41 Electricguy i got one can left.. it now houses a 12" subwoofer, as it happened to fit perfectly in the hole
14:42 mashpriborintorg the radar transmitters onto mig aircrafts were ethanol cooled
14:42 Electricguy cool
14:42 ajcc wow
14:42 Electricguy these cans were filled with nitrogen gas
14:42 mashpriborintorg ... when technicians didn't drink in all
14:42 Electricguy and the sides of the cans are formed as small heat sinks
14:43 Electricguy then there is a outer shell around the can with a airhose fitting in the bottom to blow air around the can
14:43 mashpriborintorg yeah, wait, I can find sample  photos of it
14:43 einball oh .. just saw that pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisbokt/6617431005/in/set-72157628674236113/
14:43 BotSteve Title: 0101 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
14:43 einball what filter did she use?
14:43 einball ooks kinda sepia
14:43 einball *looks
14:44 Electricguy PS perhaps
14:44 einball *looks like a sepia overlay
14:44 einball PS does not count - It's not an optical filter :)
14:44 mashpriborintorg something cool: http://museum.radioscanner.ru/avionika/zhiroskopi/ga_3/ga_3.html
14:44 BotSteve Title: Ãèðîàãðåãàò ÃÀ-3 - Ìóçåé íåáûòîâîé ýëåêòðîíèêè
14:44 Electricguy how can you be sure that she used a filter?
14:44 einball Iam not
14:44 mashpriborintorg the gold tubes are self destruction devices :p
14:44 Electricguy hehe, cool thing! :D
14:44 ajcc mashpriborintorg: is that a gyro?
14:45 ajcc :O
14:45 mashpriborintorg yeah, inertialc platform
14:45 ajcc self destructive?
14:45 mashpriborintorg ... not mine
14:45 ajcc scary
14:46 Electricguy my radar can subwoofer XD http://www1.garaget.org/archive/80/79034/98882/98882-1063697.jpg
14:46 Electricguy it got a better element in it now
14:46 Electricguy i painted the radioactive mark on myself
14:46 mashpriborintorg yes small ceels of C4 were fitted into special equipment... normally removed upon demilitarization :p
14:46 mashpriborintorg * normally *
14:46 ajcc :), hopefully
14:47 einball http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisbokt/6603335419/in/photostream/ I assume she had a filter .. It looks like a instant photograph
14:47 BotSteve Title: Vase | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
14:47 einball like that you get out of your camera
14:47 ajcc einball: that one is Instagram
14:47 einball just after making the photo
14:47 mashpriborintorg yes it is an optical filter wirth a prism like glass at the front... I had one of these
14:47 ajcc it's an app that beautifies your pictures in the phone
14:47 einball hmm
14:47 einball okay, so it's a digital filter
14:48 Electricguy yes, instagram makes all pics look "old"
14:48 ajcc yeah, yes. but it's more of a complete concept. you pic a film, a camera, and it simulates it with filters
14:48 einball ah, you call that polaroid
14:48 einball okay.
14:48 einball Too bad they canceled the Kodachrome
14:48 ajcc indeed
14:50 ajcc RVP 100 is Fuji Velvia 100, it's a professional slide film which give you very funky colors if you develop it in chemistry for color negative film (this is called x-processing, or cross-processing)
14:50 ajcc lomography.org, you'll love it :)
14:50 mashpriborintorg I still have a lomo LC-A, somewhere
14:50 einball I liked the effect where the colors are like washed out .. I only remember that it's done with silver ... But no clue how it is really done
14:51 ajcc mashpriborintorg: really nice camera :)
14:51 einball *lomography.com
14:51 mashpriborintorg it was an awesome camera... copied after a japanese Cosina camera
14:52 ajcc einball: ah, :)
14:52 mashpriborintorg http://sylvainm.free.fr/sov/cosinalomo.htm
14:52 BotSteve Title: Comparaison Cosina CX-2 / Lomo LC-A
14:52 einball I also like the old SUper-8 movies that have not the best quality :D
14:52 mashpriborintorg oh god this webpage is 12 years old XD
14:52 einball with all this flicker and stuff
14:52 ajcc haha
14:53 ajcc super-8 is awesome, I really want to start developing and filming super-8 films
14:53 einball It adds a mystical touch to the movies
14:54 mashpriborintorg I have a old chunky russian 8mm camera here, powered spring motor and selenium cell
14:54 ajcc Foma makes 8mm film, black&white
14:54 mashpriborintorg the spring motor is still ok but the light cell is weak
14:54 einball It has to be coloured
14:55 einball but weak coloured
14:55 ajcc I hope none of my selenium cell cameras start again away from me :(
14:56 ajcc so far they are all doing well, knock on wood
14:56 Electricguy just turn down the contrast and add more static noise to regular film and you pretty much got super 8.. :P
14:56 ajcc :/
14:56 ajcc :\
14:56 einball wtf
14:56 einball dafuq I just read?
14:57 ajcc Electricguy: 16:40 < Electricguy> too bad all the stuff were made for 400Hz! -,-
14:57 ajcc oh
14:57 ajcc ...
14:57 ajcc I'll never figure this copy&paste thing out
14:58 ajcc http://youtu.be/s6YAc0zEJ6w
14:58 mashpriborintorg I may bid on this: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=190663981170&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
14:58 BotSteve Title: 2011 Super 8 Film Stock Demo - YouTube
14:58 BotSteve Title: GENERATEUR 400 HZ (Mirage IV) en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 09-avr.-12 23:48:02 Paris)
14:58 * Electricguy runs the computer audio through his tascam deck to get back to the 90's studio sound
14:58 mashpriborintorg seems to be a static generator, but it's old and may need serious fixing
14:59 Electricguy yeah
14:59 Electricguy seems solid state
14:59 Experimentonomen 400Hz is easy to make, just take a bldc motor and run it as a alternator with a dc motor :P
14:59 mashpriborintorg and cheap and shipping from same country
14:59 Electricguy nice
15:00 mashpriborintorg yeah... already tried that with a military radio converter... kinda noisy
15:00 mashpriborintorg and the thing was happy to eat its 20 amps :p
15:00 Electricguy lol yeah they pull a lot XD
15:01 Electricguy i had a pretty small swedish DC/DC converter once.. the size of about half a shoebox.. pulled 62A!! o_O
15:01 Electricguy to power a tube based RF amp from 12V
15:01 Electricguy brb!
15:03 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05gkqGqBr90
15:03 BotSteve Title: THALES motor test - YouTube
15:04 einball I was about to sign up for a job at thales :P
15:04 mashpriborintorg I have some stuff from them
15:04 Experimentonomen that thales motor is most likely from an intrument similar to the stuff mash is collecting
15:05 einball military grade electronics
15:05 einball <3
15:05 mashpriborintorg yeah very common thing, I must have a bunch of similar ones buried in my stuff
15:06 mashpriborintorg did you see the two latest teardowns from Mikelectricstuff ?
15:07 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/fcoR8plMMK8
15:07 BotSteve Title: Antique Decca navigation control panel teardown - YouTube
15:07 Experimentonomen i saw the pill camera
15:07 mashpriborintorg it's a shame for the decca panel, it was a museum piece
15:07 Experimentonomen kinda funny that he actually had to shit it out as the beginning of the video xD
15:13 mashpriborintorg I hope he didn't accidentally erase the data from the recording device :p
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15:15 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon miss wannabe
15:16 wannabe1987 thanks Experimentonomen.  happy easter everyone
15:16 mashpriborintorg hi and thx
15:16 angy happy easter wannabe1987
15:17 wannabe1987 thanks angy!  what'd you do to get a voice?!
15:17 angy things with seroster
15:17 wannabe1987 figured
15:17 Electricguy that jusdt sounded very wrong.. XD
15:17 Electricguy just*
15:17 wannabe1987 because it *is* wrong
15:18 Electricguy also, hi there wannabe and happy easter! :)
15:18 angy it's totally normal for us
15:19 wannabe1987 thanks Electricguy!
15:23 wannabe1987 grrrrr
15:24 wannabe1987 why cant the internet here or the printer like my machine?
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15:26 Electricguy wannabe, is it a Dell or a compaq? ;P
15:27 wannabe1987 my computer is a toshiba.  its an hp printer tho :P
15:27 Electricguy ahh :P
15:27 Electricguy might be a digital catfight in between them XD
15:27 wannabe1987 the printer has never liked this computer, even when it was dads machine
15:27 Electricguy weird
15:27 wannabe1987 yeah
15:29 wannabe1987 whatever, its annoying.  thankfully grandma's wireless printer LOVES my computer, so i can print there :D
15:29 Electricguy LOL nice :P
15:32 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saGEPFLZDlY&amp;feature=plcp&amp;context=C4e0450fVDvjVQa1PpcFN6hAq6_ybk6_b0J_PLxKDHmrH3cNH14wM= <-- seems like hp is crap :/
15:32 BotSteve Title: Another HP Officejet 4500 All-in-One Printer JUNK! Goes Back Home. - YouTube
15:32 Electricguy i want it to get dark outside..
15:33 Electricguy biking with a pretty powerful bike light is fun :P
15:33 Electricguy we got some Epson printer
15:33 wannabe1987 ok
15:34 wannabe1987 time to go to grandmas for easter
15:34 Electricguy it would take less time to build a printer from scratch, invent a new communication protocol, invent a new computer bus for it, invent the wheel again and drink some cooffee than it takes for the damn thing to print a page..
15:35 Electricguy have fun Kelly!"
15:36 Experimentonomen Electricguy, that sounds like an old dot matrix printer :P
15:36 Electricguy lol
15:36 Electricguy it's a ink jet
15:36 Electricguy IT'S SO SLOW!!
15:36 ajcc don't mock the dot matrix
15:37 Electricguy they were fast for their time! :)
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15:37 Experimentonomen i remember a printer ot the brand and model STAR CL20, it was so loud that i had to leave the room and shut the door while printing
15:37 Experimentonomen LC20*
15:38 Electricguy speaking of old stuff... just for the heck of it, i'm going to connect up my 1986 Toshiba T5100 as a serial terminal for my arduino! XD
15:38 ajcc no not really, you could buy fixed type printers which were a lot faster, but the dot matrix is pure geek love.
15:39 Experimentonomen take a rc aircraft two stroke engine and poost the volume enuf to require around 20000 watts of PA system power and u have how loud the printer was
15:40 Experimentonomen the loudest rock concert in existance would be like the harddrive in the computer whirring away in comparison to how loud that lc20 printer was
15:41 ajcc yeah, dot matrix printers sounds like eight drunken tattoists going wild :)
15:41 ajcc preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee preeeeeeeeeee :P
15:42 ajcc donk donk donk preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
15:47 HighMan Ok wow... 2nd monitor and Irc is on that lol
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15:48 HighMan Hi wannabe1987
15:48 HighMan If someone wants to send me a pivot monitor mount...
15:49 wannabe1987 no
15:49 wannabe1987 sorry
15:49 wannabe1987 :p
15:49 Electricguy no..
15:50 Electricguy the toshiba T5100 makes an awesome geeky serial terminal XD
15:50 Electricguy a powersucking one too
15:50 HighMan :P
15:50 Experimentonomen and a good space heater
15:50 Electricguy indeed
15:50 Experimentonomen that plasma screen makes alot of heat
15:50 HighMan I want to be able to be on my bed and have a swivel mounted monitor -_-
15:50 Electricguy only the monochrome plasma screen gets pretty warm after a while
15:51 HighMan On a note, Experimentonomen has the same TV as I do in my room..
15:51 HighMan And my monitor has "nom" on it.
15:53 Sgt_Lemming HighMan, it could be worse http://imgur.com/gallery/eVubO
15:53 BotSteve Title: Free LCD TV on craigslist - Imgur
15:54 Experimentonomen fail
15:55 Experimentonomen lcd tvs do not suffer from burnin
15:55 Sgt_Lemming it was probably actually a plasma
15:55 Experimentonomen yup
15:55 Sgt_Lemming and they sort of can, but it's fixable
15:57 Experimentonomen also most plasmas goes into a screensaver mode if a static image is dusplayed for more than 5 minutes
15:58 Experimentonomen my plasma was the cheapest u could get and even it has such screensave
16:00 Electricguy just for the hell of it :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ykymHCmYgg
16:00 BotSteve Title: TOSHIBA T5100 as serial terminal - YouTube
16:02 ajcc just because you can?, now that's not the F U KISS man I talked to in the morning.
16:03 Electricguy yes. because i can
16:03 Sgt_Lemming Mein gott, it's got 1024KB ram!!!!
16:03 Sgt_Lemming that's HOOGE
16:03 ajcc hm, who need 1024KB? 640kB is enought for anyone
16:03 ajcc ;)
16:03 Sgt_Lemming also, sifn't make if graph the temp
16:04 Electricguy there is a 4MB RAM expansion module in the machine to
16:04 Electricguy sadly, like 4 memory cells are dead
16:04 Electricguy which results in a non booting machine
16:05 Electricguy but, well.. all the programs that can run on a 8/16MHz machine usually runs fine on 1024kB.. XD
16:06 mashpriborintorg I think I did already take apart some of these Thosibas, years ago :/
16:06 HighMan_NOMIES Sgt_Lemming JUST NO.
16:06 HighMan_NOMIES xD
16:06 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:06 mashpriborintorg I do still have a plasma panel
16:06 ajcc send a clear command before each update, and it will look beautiful
16:06 HighMan That's wrong.
16:06 HighMan And can
16:07 HighMan *And can't you fix image burn?
16:07 mashpriborintorg The kind of thing you could pickup for 1 euro at flea markets, but they are getting rare now
16:08 Electricguy mashpriborintorg, bad thing to do to a machine that goes for around 500 bucks on ebay
16:08 Electricguy i was super lucky to get mine for free
16:08 Electricguy put in a new HDD and it worked :)
16:09 Electricguy just a standrad 3.5" IDE drive in it. hehe
16:09 Experimentonomen Electricguy, i think i was a t5100 at eriksjälpen here in town last wednesday during a studyvisit about internship there
16:09 Experimentonomen saw*
16:09 Electricguy ooh!
16:10 Electricguy there is a smaller model that is almost identical too
16:10 Electricguy with a 286 CPU
16:10 Electricguy still rare stuff
16:10 ajcc Experimentonomen: how much did they ask?
16:10 Experimentonomen i dident look closely, i just saw it on a shelf from a few meters away
16:10 mashpriborintorg yeah, I sold some old laptops at good prices, but 500 bucks is overkilled, some people are crazy
16:12 Electricguy i got the original carrying bag for mine too :P
16:12 Electricguy i got some weird looks from some older people on the bus when i were going to a retro gaming nigt at a friends place.. XD
16:12 Electricguy was*
16:12 ajcc HP made some really cute tiny MS-DOS computers, I can't remember their name, but they had a little built in mouse, which connected to the computer via a plastic rod
16:13 ajcc they had a PCMCIA harddrive as well
16:13 Electricguy cool
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16:14 Electricguy the smallest DOS machine i got is my toshiba libretto 50CT
16:14 Electricguy awesome little thing
16:14 ajcc 75MHz PI, 6.1-inch TFT, 16-32MB ram, nice little compy
16:15 Electricguy yepp
16:15 Electricguy mine got 16MB RAM
16:15 Electricguy get about 2h battery life out of it
16:15 ajcc :O
16:15 ajcc wow
16:15 Electricguy (i made a new pack for it)
16:15 Electricguy don't know how good the cells are though
16:16 Electricguy most likely half dead
16:17 Electricguy it's small enough to hold it in both hands and use your thumbs to type.. XD
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16:17 Electricguy heya Chipguy
16:18 Chipguy hey hey electricguy
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16:22 ajcc http://devilanse.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/nablopomo-hp-omnibook-600c/ took ages, but I managed to find it :)
16:22 BotSteve Title: NaBloPoMo – HP Omnibook 600C | Random Thoughts by Lord Kalvan / Devil Anse
16:22 Experimentonomen g'evenin sparky
16:22 SparkyProjects Hi
16:22 Electricguy neat little machine!
16:22 Electricguy and heyz sparky
16:23 Electricguy this old T5100 REALLY smells of old computer :P
16:23 Electricguy doesn't smell burnt or anything.. just old electronics :P
16:39 ajcc I thought people who assembled programs on paper were insane, I was so wrong. It's as hard as looking up the gravitational acceleration in every city with a Universe from a tabel.
17:03 ajcc "... you might inadvertently produce white-on-white characters; these are hard to see." :)
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17:28 HighMan pred
17:28 Electricguy derp on you too
17:28 HighMan Derp.
17:28 Electricguy hurr durr..
17:29 HighMan Electricguy: Imitate chris's demonstration of someone groping them self, drooling over the keyboard, and typing with one tooth please.
17:30 Electricguy no..
17:30 Electricguy do it yourself..
17:30 HighMan xD
17:30 HighMan CB
17:33 wannabe-afk off to work
17:33 ajcc wannabe-afk: take care
17:33 HighMan Have fun!
17:41 HighMan I am testing.
17:41 HighMan Ok this works.
17:41 ajcc No it doesn't work ;)
17:41 HighMan :P I had to change my x-chat color, I couldn't see it from far.
17:43 HighMan supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
17:44 ajcc basically green on black?
17:44 HighMan How'd you know? -__-
17:45 Electricguy classic
17:45 ajcc Follow the white rabbit
17:45 HighMan xD ^
17:45 HighMan I didn't know others could see.
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17:46 Electricguy your text is black to me
17:46 HighMan How about now ajcc?
17:46 HighMan I still can't read this -_--
17:46 HighMan Ah wtf who cares.
17:46 ajcc :)
17:52 ajcc who knew Kernal stands for "Keyboard Entry Read, Network and Link" ?, odd.
18:04 HighMan Multitasking to it's fullest.
18:19 BotSteve lwq_laptop: remind me
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18:23 Ponko hmmm
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18:23 HighMan lwq_laptop Do you have school manana?
18:23 lwq_laptop considering i dont know what that is, no...
18:23 HighMan Tomorrow lol
18:24 lwq_laptop no i do not. i have it tuesday
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18:30 HighMan Same here, It's record day
18:30 lwq_laptop friday i get off again for parent/teacher conference
18:30 HighMan Good or Bad?
18:31 lwq_laptop my parents dont go. its a district wide thing
18:31 HighMan O ok
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18:39 HighMan If my friend wants to split a video input in to two so he can use 2 monitors with one vga cable. What would he need? A KVM?
18:39 HighMan Or just a vga splitter/
18:41 ajcc is your friend you?
18:41 HighMan No...
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18:41 HighMan xD
18:41 HighMan This is my setup. http://i41.tinypic.com/1e9ngj.jpg
18:41 HighMan So... What would I need/
18:42 HighMan *He
18:42 ajcc I found this page: http://www.inspectmygadget.com/2007/09/05/how-to-split-your-video-signal-to-multiple-monitors/
18:42 BotSteve Title: How-to: Split your video signal to multiple monitors. « Inspect My Gadget
18:43 HighMan False Positive? Avast kicked it...
18:44 ajcc hm, chrome should have yelled at me
18:44 HighMan xD Firefox :P
18:44 ajcc basically it says: a passive y-cable works, but the signal is half and some ghosting might be seen. buy an expensive vga splitter, works best. or use two graphics cards. I have no personal experience with splitting vga signals so I don't know :/
18:45 ajcc the last part is me
18:45 HighMan ...It isn't me xD
18:45 HighMan So idk lol
18:45 HighMan I can split vga=Vg.5 + G.5A
18:45 HighMan Or Give me a knife.
18:47 SparkyProjects1 If you use a dual gfx card you can select to expand the desktop over the 2 monitors, or to duplicate your main monitor
18:47 SparkyProjects1 I  do the first option
18:47 HighMan Idk his setup. All I know is he has one vga port.
18:48 HighMan And he's on a laptop I think
18:48 ajcc two monitors to a laptop, or an extra monitor to a laptop?
18:49 SparkyProjects1 Yeah, the laptop screen is main, but has the external port so you can plug in a second monitor
18:49 KB3NZQ .seen Cprossu
18:49 BotSteve KB3NZQ: I last saw Cprossu 62.94 hours ago at 2012-04-06 03:53:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:49:29 UTC
18:49 HighMan 2 monitors to a laptop I think
18:49 SparkyProjects1 I do that on my netbook
18:51 HighMan Yep 2 monitors to one laptop.
18:52 Experimentonomen sigh, once again im beeing declared an idiot over at diyaudio.com
18:52 Experimentonomen http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/210359-i-have-bag-full-mj11033-to3-transistors.html
18:52 BotSteve Title: I have a bag full of MJ11033 TO3 transistors... - diyAudio
18:59 Ponko lwq_laptop HighMan
18:59 Ponko pm
18:59 ajcc Experimentonomen: hm, I don't know anyone at that forum, but generally it's better to let things go, or if it's for the better being, explain how you did something.
18:59 HighMan Yes?
18:59 ajcc Experimentonomen: but there will always be people who don't get anything at all, and say that everything is wrong :(, sadly.
19:05 Experimentonomen i take the guys description and put together an example and puts peak current right at SOA(safe operating area) at a given supply voltage and load for the stated device, then after posting that, i get responses that im clueless and posting meaningless numbers
19:06 Experimentonomen im starting to remember why i left that folrum half a year ago
19:06 ajcc yeah, people suck :)
19:07 Experimentonomen that guy apparently seem to thinkm its fully ok to severely exceed SOA by several Amps with no problem
19:08 Experimentonomen and as soon as i reply "ok fine i ntake back everything i posted in this thread" the thread goes dead
19:08 ajcc I fianlly remembered the title of a film I liked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_1.0 , it's a dystopian sci-fi movie
19:08 BotSteve Title: Paranoia 1.0 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:09 ajcc some people just can't read datasheets :P
19:09 ajcc or got no clue
19:12 Experimentonomen apparently i've been determining the max supply voltage and number of output devices all wrong
19:14 ajcc :/, given that you're the guy who likes to drive amps to they peak, I have a hard time beliving you got it all too wrong
19:15 Experimentonomen though i have pushed a single pair of IRF954's to clipping into 4 ohms with 43V rails which exceeds SOA quite a bit with no ill effects
19:18 Experimentonomen so them diyaudio.com guys make it sound like its a miracle that any of my amps work at all and able to put out any kinda power without blowing up
19:19 ajcc :)
19:20 Experimentonomen once again i feel like i should bring out the hammer and smash my cameras to bits and close down my imgur, photopucket and youtube account and quit posting anything i do since all i get is "your clueless"
19:21 Experimentonomen with is a nicer way of saying "your an idioit"
19:22 ajcc :/, it's probably more productive to let things sit for a while, I guess.
19:24 Experimentonomen i sent the guy a pm saying "you know that calling someone clueless in public is pretty much the same thing as saying "your an idiot""
19:24 Experimentonomen and "go ahead and report me to the mods for flying with falve information and misleading people"
19:25 ajcc hm
19:26 HighMan Haters are going to hate.
19:26 HighMan And assholes are going to stink.
19:27 Ponko brb
19:29 mashpriborintorg going to sleep, bye
19:31 Experimentonomen ajcc, the guy calling me clueless is a electrical engineer, that automatica<lly means hes right that i am clueless
19:33 ajcc no idea who's right and not, since your amps are working, you must have some clue
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19:37 * Monkeh ponders sending Teapo hatemail
19:37 * lwq1996 ponders watching porn
19:38 HighMan Stop fapping lwq1996 .
19:38 Electricguy lulz http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548487_378746805490200_229187803779435_1201920_568726927_n.jpg
19:38 HighMan xD That's false.
19:39 Electricguy WANT!! http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/minecraft-peeps.jpg
19:39 ajcc lwq1996: http://www.old-computers.com/news/default.asp enjoy yourself kid!
19:39 BotSteve Title: Welcome to OLD-COMPUTERS.COM !
19:39 HighMan ELectricguy cool!
19:39 Electricguy ajcc, i <3 that site so much
19:39 ajcc :)
19:40 Electricguy it's something special about old computers :P
19:40 ajcc indeed
19:40 Electricguy just outright fun to use them :D
19:40 KB3NZQ .mincraft
19:40 ajcc are you irkking the night away from your DOS compy yet?
19:40 KB3NZQ .minecraft
19:40 BotSteve KB3NZQ: GuardianZozo's minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: DOWN
19:40 BotSteve KB3NZQ: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
19:40 BotSteve KB3NZQ: PacketHumper's minecraft server: minecraft.nerderosity.com:25565. Server Status: UP
19:40 BotSteve KB3NZQ: BitViper's minecraft server: minecraft.bitviper.org:25565. Server Status: UP
19:40 Electricguy irkking?
19:40 Experimentonomen ajcc, 4 ohm dummyload, 43VDC psu, both channels driven, 1kHz test tone, right before clipping 14VAC out = 49W and 3.5A, this is more than likely completely wrong according to them "experts"
19:41 ajcc Electricguy: using irc
19:41 Electricguy ah. nah never got it to work
19:41 ajcc don't know the verb of irc
19:42 Experimentonomen transformer is starting to smell bad and waveform is starting to get more and more clipped as the heat causes voltage to drop
19:43 ajcc smelling transformers? that smell is horrid
19:43 ajcc worse than blown leds
19:45 exor674 ajcc: ugh, blown leds stink
19:45 exor674 and hurt when LED plastic collides with your flesh
19:45 ajcc yep
19:45 exor674 ( I wired one and stuck it in the wrong place on my breadboard once
19:46 exor674 realized, was reaching for the power wire to yoink it
19:46 exor674 damn thing blew up
19:46 Experimentonomen ok at 20Hz the pchannel amp starts railsticking and doesent reset until signal has been reduced well below clipping
19:46 ajcc yeah, I've done the mistake of testing one on a battery
19:47 exor674 that WAS the first time I had one actually explode
19:47 exor674 I had one hiss at me and die
19:47 ajcc oh, the plastic flew away?
19:47 exor674 but never actually throw pieces of itself
19:47 exor674 yeah
19:47 exor674 the top blew off
19:48 Experimentonomen i even did let the amp sit latched to the positive rail dumping the ful PSU current through a single IRF9540 for almost a minute and the damn thing still did not fail, maybe i have been misreading the SOA chart all along
19:48 exor674 speaking of things too
19:48 exor674 one thing I am amazed at at AVRs
19:49 exor674 I stuck one in backwards once ( and the way you supply power to that I ended up shorting up the voltage rail across the chip )
19:49 exor674 the chip still works
19:49 exor674 thing got quite toasty though
19:49 ajcc exor674: it's not very typical that the top blow off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
19:49 BotSteve Title: Front Fell Off - YouTube
19:51 ajcc exor674: the AVR got current limiters built in :), they are very tinkering friendly
19:51 exor674 ajcc: yeah, except I didn't think it'd like it when I stuck v+ on avcc and gnd on vcc
19:51 exor674 or something like that
19:52 ajcc well, it's best to be careful :)
19:54 exor674 yeah, but people DO fuck up
19:54 exor674 heh
19:55 * lwq1996 pokes Ponko-Busy
19:55 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQ7d3BK3KQ fail often :)
19:55 BotSteve Title: Secret to Learning Electronics - Fail and Fail Often - YouTube
19:55 lwq1996 ponko is a special type of busy ;P
19:57 ajcc hmm, I've must have written something in memory on a location used by Basic on the Commodore, nothing would run :P, but now that I've reset the commie, everything works. The danger of unmanaged memory!
19:57 Experimentonomen hmmm apparently i can have as much as 75V psu voltage before i exceed SOA (60V across drain and source) and 3A current
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19:58 ajcc Experimentonomen: hm, interesting. so you can make your p-channel amp run less warm now?
19:58 Experimentonomen and thats for a single IRF9540 P channel mosfet in a dinky little TO220 package
19:59 Experimentonomen that suggests my humble little p channel amp can safely run on 60+ volts and påroduce well above 150 watts RMS power
19:59 ajcc neat
20:01 Electricguy yeah FETs are fun in that way
20:02 Electricguy someone should make an amp with IRFP450 FETs just for the hell of it
20:02 Electricguy because they are used so widely
20:02 Electricguy like 2N3055's XD
20:02 ajcc are they expensive?
20:02 Electricguy not very
20:03 Electricguy gonna check elfa
20:03 Electricguy 36Sek
20:03 ajcc k.
20:03 Electricguy 14A.. but 500V
20:04 ajcc :O
20:04 Electricguy might be suitable for some high impedance speakers
20:04 ajcc electro static things?
20:04 Electricguy nah, those use several kV
20:04 Electricguy but like 600Ohm speakers and stuff
20:05 Electricguy i tried to make a class A amp with a IRFP450 once
20:05 Electricguy it worked.. but had very little gain and didn't sound that good
20:05 ajcc :(
20:06 ajcc what is class A btw?, the tube people always talk about those magical amps
20:06 Electricguy my big class A amp had six 2N3716's in parallel on each channel
20:06 Electricguy it's a very inefficient amp with very good sound
20:06 Electricguy due to almost no crossover dist at all
20:06 Electricguy they run very warm
20:07 ajcc ok
20:07 Electricguy theoretically i could have been able to pull a total of 4800Watts constant current per channel on my bigg class A.. lol
20:08 ajcc 4.8kW?!
20:08 Electricguy yes
20:08 lwq1996 hey HighMan
20:08 HighMan ...
20:08 Electricguy ajcc, here is a video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqbScbwxIHY
20:08 BotSteve Title: BIG homemade class A amplifier - YouTube
20:09 ajcc how many watts are those resistors rated at?
20:09 Electricguy 50W
20:09 Electricguy with no external cooling
20:10 lwq1996 who here likes bukkake
20:12 Electricguy pushed around 145Watts into that amp to get around 10-15Watts out
20:12 ajcc dammit, why did I google that :'(
20:13 Electricguy lwq1996, nsfw...
20:14 lwq1996 lol
20:14 lwq1996 im laughing my ass of right now because i got ajcc
20:16 Electricguy . . .
20:17 lwq1996 poor ajcc :/
20:17 Electricguy i should rebuild my big class A amp
20:17 Electricguy going to run it at about 28V instead of 12
20:18 Electricguy then i may get around 20Watts out at least
20:18 ajcc didn't realise I was not talking to Experimentonomen any more :/, two swedes building amps, way more than my brain can handle :P
20:18 ajcc Experimentonomen: what's class A amplifiers?
20:20 Experimentonomen i did a little test, i took a p channel mosfet, put a volt meter across drain and source and a ammeter in series and a 4 ohm resistor for a load, apparently i can exceed 50 volts psu before i at any point exceed the mosfets safe operating area
20:20 ajcc wow
20:20 Experimentonomen ajcc, the difference is quiescent current or bias current as its also called
20:20 ajcc they are rugged those fets
20:21 Experimentonomen class A means the output transistors are handling several Amps of current regardless of volume
20:21 Electricguy see it as a audio modulated voltage divider if you wish
20:22 Electricguy that's basically what it is
20:22 ajcc ah, ok, those must be very easy to construct then?
20:22 Experimentonomen wheres in class AB, the upper power transistor turns off completely at a few hundred milliwatts of output power from the lower output transistor
20:22 Electricguy only that one resistor is changed to a transistor
20:22 ajcc I see
20:22 Electricguy yeah they are simple to build. but if you want any power output you need pretty big stuff that can handle a lot of current
20:23 Electricguy and waste heat
20:23 Electricguy that amp i posted a lin about would warm up my lab to about 25c in an hour or so
20:23 ajcc :O
20:23 ajcc that's like vacuuming your room
20:24 Electricguy lol yeah
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20:24 Electricguy and the new version of the amp that's going to operate at over double the voltage is going to give more than double the amount of heat out
20:25 ajcc wow, much longer before you can solder with it? ;)
20:25 Electricguy lol, nah XD
20:26 Electricguy but the fun thing is.. the exhaust air from the old amp was not that warm really
20:26 Electricguy it wasn't hot
20:26 Electricguy the cooling tunnel was just a little warm
20:26 Electricguy it can take LOTS of more power
20:26 ajcc was the whole brick under the psu with the fan a cooling tunnel?
20:26 Electricguy yes
20:26 Experimentonomen and if you want a few extra % of efficiency u can replace the resistor with a constant current source, this also helps distortion slightly as current is constant
20:27 Electricguy mkay
20:27 ajcc hm, I like the sound of constant current
20:27 Electricguy i'll look a little into that
20:28 Experimentonomen as with the resistor, when the tyransistor gets signal, the current increases, which in turn requires even more signal to further close the transistor
20:28 Experimentonomen this causes something called "Beta droop" and is part of of the high distortion
20:29 Electricguy ahh oki
20:30 Electricguy so that's the main reason why resistors are rarely used
20:30 ajcc so it creates harmonics on the signal?
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20:31 Experimentonomen it distorts the sine so that half the cycle roughly represents the input while the other half is grossly distorted
20:32 Experimentonomen just like the distortion of a triode, if u've ever seen a representation of how triode distortion looks
20:32 Electricguy the PERFECT audiophile amp.. XD
20:33 Experimentonomen this is odd harmonit distortion which is the source of the warm and pleasant sound of a tubeamp of a class A ss amp
20:33 Electricguy as they like to color the sound in all possible ways.. lol
20:34 Experimentonomen in class AB you have crossover distortion, this is even armonic distortion which is horrible, this is why some amps make you feel like someone is carving out your ears with a knife at high levels
20:34 Electricguy yeah class A amps sounds nice in some weird way :P
20:35 Experimentonomen and low enuf bias u can actually hear this type of distortion at low levels at high frequencies, the sound is much like the sound of breaking glass
20:35 ajcc usch
20:35 ajcc ouch
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20:36 Experimentonomen imagine a cymbal, then a glass breaking, nmow turn down the bias to zero and mix the cymbal and breaking glass together and you have what gives class AB bad reps in the audiophile circuits
20:38 Experimentonomen now there are class B(no bias) amplifiers that du sound a bit like class A amps, why? because they have so high slew rate and low delay that feedback itself is able to correct the lack of bias
20:38 Electricguy i can't say class AB sounds bad at all if it's constructed the right way :P
20:39 Experimentonomen and thats the secret of low distortion amplifiers, high slewrate and negative feedback
20:39 ajcc I see
20:41 Electricguy maybe i'll start on a big class A tomorrow
20:41 Electricguy i got all the components for it
20:41 Experimentonomen class A amps suffer from high distortion simply because of the high idling current, causing beta droop and other fun stuff, hence why most nelson pass stuff is mosfet based
20:41 Electricguy going to have a PSU capable of about 28V and around 25A
20:42 ajcc nelson pass?
20:43 Experimentonomen hes a designer of class A amplifiers using mosfets to overcome the beta droop issues of bipolar transistors
20:43 Experimentonomen passlabs.com and passdiy.com are his web sites
20:43 Gaxnys What's the deal with all those high-end amps? I mean, they have the wame wattage as cheaper models. o:
20:44 Electricguy sound quality my friend
20:44 Electricguy there is a reason why cheap amps are cheap :P
20:44 Electricguy it's not all about the power... XD
20:44 Gaxnys Yeah? Well as long as there's plenty of the bass, I don't really care.
20:44 Experimentonomen Gaxnys, some ppl just cannot stand the sound of consumer amplifiers, which are generally underbiased and badly designed to begin with
20:44 Electricguy fun fact; you can get tinnitus with 1Watt if you have good speakers
20:45 Electricguy Gaxnys, you got logitech computer speakers huh? XD
20:45 Experimentonomen as u turn up the volume, the psu sags which lowers bias even more = crossover distortion goes up and soun d gets harch
20:45 Gaxnys Electricguy: Then 100 watt should be MAD!
20:45 Gaxnys Electricguy: Sony actually.
20:45 Electricguy oh wow. wild :P
20:46 Electricguy i got a pair of homemade amps and some damn expensive AudioPro speakers :)
20:46 Electricguy bad picture.. but yeh.. http://i.imgur.com/UVGEk.jpg
20:46 Gaxnys Electricguy: I want a pair of 200w speakers. They ought to be loud as hell. :D
20:46 Electricguy you need an amp for them too
20:47 Gaxnys Well it's not too hard to build one, right?
20:47 Electricguy here is one of my amps.. it serves as the base unit with filters and stuff. it also drives the small speakers http://imgur.com/a/raCu0#0
20:47 BotSteve Title: EG's gainclone Amp - Imgur
20:47 Electricguy and here is the subwoofer amp http://imgur.com/a/nja5A#0
20:47 Electricguy a bit tube amp inspired
20:47 ajcc is Gainclone that IC amp people are loving?
20:47 BotSteve Title: EG's Class AB amplifier - Imgur
20:48 Electricguy Gainclone is a board based around a IC
20:48 Gaxnys Tube amp sounds fancy. Electricguy, can you explain how to build one? :D
20:48 Electricguy my gainclone got LM3886 ICs. they sound aweosme
20:48 Electricguy Gaxnys, no.
20:48 Gaxnys Electricguy: Why not? :(
20:48 Gaxnys Electricguy: It's just a matter of connecting a few wires, right?
20:49 Electricguy building amps is not like pluggin in the vacuum cleaner in the socket. it requires a lot of knowledge and experience
20:49 Electricguy it's not something you can do over a weekend
20:49 Electricguy or 5mins in IRC
20:49 Gaxnys Awh. :(
20:49 Gaxnys How about a week then? I have plenty of time now that I don't have school for a week.
20:49 Electricguy sadly, i don't have the time
20:50 Gaxnys Awh, oh well. What parts do I need then? Some resistors?
20:51 Electricguy just to make it clear, are you trolling like mad or are you really serious?
20:51 Gaxnys Why should I be trolling?
20:51 Gaxnys I got this 500w PSU from an old computer. That ought to give enough power, right?
20:51 Electricguy because it looks like it XDeither you are a TOTAL damn noob or trolling like fuck :P
20:51 Gaxnys Well that's not very nice of you. :(
20:51 Electricguy it depends
20:52 Electricguy i'm just honest :)
20:52 Gaxnys So what does it depend on?
20:52 Electricguy the type of amp
20:52 Electricguy but a ATX PSU can only give 12V. it's a bit low for most amp
20:52 Gaxnys I don't care about that. I just want a massive umpf from my speakers.
20:53 Gaxnys So can't you like, make it higher?
20:53 Electricguy and a big class A is not something you want to build as first project, as you are literally going to burn all your stuff down if you don't know exactly what to do
20:53 Experimentonomen unless its a car amp, that takes 12V in and steps it up to whatever voltage it takes for the amp to give its rated power into 4 owms or whatever load its specced wattage is for
20:53 Electricguy google some and read about how amps work and the basics, then you don't have to ask so much :)
20:54 Electricguy i'm not a wiki! ;)
20:54 Gaxnys Electricguy: But it will be fine if I wear a anti-ESD wriststrap, right?
20:54 Electricguy no
20:54 Gaxnys Awh. :(
20:55 Electricguy that's like putting a tinfoil hat on your head and taking a bath in a nuclear reactor.. it just wont help.. XD
20:55 Gaxnys So how to I make the stuff go together? cardboard box, lump of metal and lots of glue? :D
20:55 Electricguy you are going to burn down your stuff with overcurrent. not static electricity
20:55 Electricguy but as i said, google some about amps and the basics how they work first
20:56 Gaxnys So basically I need a bucket of water just to be safe.
20:56 Electricguy i seriously don't have time for this right now, sorry
20:57 Experimentonomen gaxnys, gett a simulation program like multisim or ltspice and simulate your ideas, this will save not only your money but potentially also your life
20:58 Gaxnys Experimentonomen: That sounds like a good idea. Thanks. ^^
20:58 Experimentonomen the sim will tell u if ur idea will work or just act like a short and blow up
20:58 Electricguy and you should show at least SOME sort of respect to the guys that really want to help you. otherwise, get F'ed
20:58 Experimentonomen in the softie "crocodile clips" the parts will actually blow up with a nice animation
20:59 Gaxnys Right. Is there 3D fire and stuff as well? :D
20:59 Gaxnys Electricguy: That's not very nice of you. :(
20:59 Experimentonomen a few *poof* bubbles and orange flashes
21:01 Electricguy why on earth would i be nice with a fucking troll?
21:01 ajcc hey, people, don't be rude :/
21:01 Electricguy i'm just outright honest :) something wrong with that? :)
21:02 Gaxnys As a matter of fact, yes.
21:02 Gaxnys :3
21:02 Electricguy w00t!
21:02 Gaxnys Ever tried to be at least a little nice? It can go a long way, you know.
21:03 Electricguy yeah. stop trolling and pulling down nice people with knowledge in the shit takes you lightyears further
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21:03 everybody https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540174_3120663454514_1202394172_32406400_744096208_n.jpg
21:03 Gaxnys I was talking generally, but sure.
21:04 pegasus Experimentonomen: crocodile clips is no longer available.
21:04 pegasus try http://www.yenka.com/en/Yenka_Technology/ instead
21:04 BotSteve Title: Yenka Technology
21:04 lwq1996 did anyone ever have this stuf that has marshmellows and fruit cocktail in it?
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21:04 Guest23025 awww who stole everybody?
21:05 Gaxnys Seroster: Good evening. :)
21:05 anybody psh
21:05 ajcc might be a registered nick
21:05 wannabe-work fine then.  i guess i'll have to be myself :/
21:05 pegasus download link: http://www.yenka.com/file/YK/3.4.0/Yenka_3_4_0_Setup.exe
21:05 lwq1996 lol
21:06 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
21:06 pegasus there's an OSX and linux version too
21:06 wannabe-work why does my computer screen misbehave when i'm *not* around computer people?!
21:06 exor674 wannabe-work: ecause there's nobody threataning it into working
21:06 wannabe-work and why did my hallmate today take a 20 min break at the wrong time?!
21:06 exor674 wannabe-work: computers are sentient, duh
21:07 exor674 wannabe-work: they know when there's a computer person around and work
21:07 pegasus i had a youth minister tell me that he did exorcisms in the computer room and that's why the computers malfunctioned in there
21:07 exor674 <333 wannabe-work
21:08 wannabe-work lol
21:08 wannabe-work hi exor674
21:08 wannabe-work http://i.imgur.com/c9HiH.jpg = win
21:09 ajcc computer people express a mutal love for computer, which computers understand and value
21:09 ajcc :)
21:09 ajcc http://www.explosm.net/comics/2760/ yes, yes he was!
21:09 BotSteve Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2760 - Explosm.net
21:09 wannabe-work i love mjy computer too!
21:09 Gaxnys ajcc: Is that why flash and µTorrent on an SSD in windows works so bad? :c
21:10 wannabe-work i was taking a nap before lunch and my sister (10) goes: If you sleep now you won't sleep tonight!  I told her i'd sleep now, after lunch, and tonight with no problem :P
21:10 exor674 ajcc: I think the computers knowing that they could be lobotomized if they misbehave helps
21:11 ajcc exor674: haha! that might be true :)
21:11 wannabe-work https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/541330_10150653753076966_660271965_9300459_1126351542_n.jpg  my sister and i
21:11 Gaxnys And that's why laptops are evil.
21:11 wannabe-work ok
21:11 wannabe-work time to go back to work :(
21:12 wannabe-work time to get the people some FOOD
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21:14 lwq_laptop wow it just now disconnected
21:15 Ponko-Busy ahhhhh
21:19 HighMan test
21:19 Electricguy ok, one Arduino MEGA protoshield is bought :)
21:19 Electricguy now i just need to get my MEGA clone from DX
21:19 ajcc are the  DealExtreme arduino copies good?
21:20 Electricguy no idea
21:20 ajcc the LCD you got from them looked quite nice
21:20 Electricguy i bought one to find out
21:20 Electricguy they should work in the exact same way as they are copies of the genuine ones
21:20 Electricguy the LCD shield is totally awesome
21:20 Electricguy not worth building a LCD shield
21:21 lwq_laptop wait. they sell arduinos on DX?
21:21 ajcc copies
21:22 lwq_laptop i could live with a copy
21:22 ajcc http://s.dealextreme.com/search/arduino <-
21:22 BotSteve Title: arduino - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
21:23 lwq_laptop hell yeah. mega for 22usb
21:23 lwq_laptop usd
21:25 lwq_laptop i wish i could find a mega in an orange solder mask :/
21:27 ajcc I really like the white solder mask
21:27 lwq_laptop me too but orange is my favorite color :P
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21:44 HighMan Mine is green
21:48 HighMan test
21:48 ajcc it's not working!
21:48 ajcc ;)
21:49 HighMan DAMN! It really isn't... xD Anyone know how to change username color on X-Chat?
21:49 ajcc I saw that they have had limited runs of colored arduino boards, but I can't find any colored uno ones
21:49 ajcc HighMan: /nick name
21:49 ajcc /nick name
21:49 HighMan -_- No... I mean the color that the nick for others is showing up in x-chat... It
21:49 ajcc oh ok
21:49 HighMan *It's blue and I need it white
21:49 ajcc no idea
21:49 HighMan I'm a blind man and I can
21:50 HighMan *I can't see shit from far away
21:50 HighMan This Monitor also needs a better back light lol
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21:50 HighMan I'll cheat and crank contrast up.
21:58 epictang0 *yawn*
21:58 epictang0 boring day...took my employees oncall shifts so they could spend time with their families...
21:58 ajcc .cookie epictang0
21:58 BotSteve Here you go, epictang0, I baked you a ginger cookie!
21:59 epictang0 thanks ajcc
21:59 ajcc you need a juice box and a blanket too :)
21:59 epictang0 i need a vacation and a stiff drink
21:59 ajcc cap.log reference
22:00 ajcc but you're probably right
22:00 Seroster SparkyProjects1, funfact, I can fit 20 beer bottles in my scooter xD
22:00 HighMan So nice of you!
22:00 HighMan .cookie epictang0
22:00 BotSteve Here you go, epictang0, I baked you a snickerdoodle cookie!
22:00 epictang0 Seroster: is that with ice? beer without ice is just warm beer
22:01 epictang0 HighMan: my guys work their asses off for me...its the least i can do
22:01 HighMan :D
22:01 SparkyProjects1 Nice Seroster :)
22:01 HighMan Damn this blue is impossible to read.
22:02 Seroster epictang0, Could fit some ice in there too =)
22:03 Seroster However I think the capacitor will work just fine at room temp too =)
22:04 ajcc I wonder if water and oil caps will work at room temperature
22:05 HighMan Fixed it finally.
22:06 HighMan SparkyProjects1 You said you ran dual monitors with your laptop, how do you make the mouse go over to the other monitor on the whole side of the screen? (One of my monitors is bigger than the other, so only a section of the side will let me move my mouse over.(
22:08 SparkyProjects1 I have the laptop monitor and the second monitor
22:08 SparkyProjects1 And yes, there's only the height of the smaller monitor where you can move the mouse through
22:08 SparkyProjects1 Once you go into display settings, you selext 'extend my desktop ....'
22:08 HighMan I did that, but I find it redicolous that you can't move the mouse from the full height of the bigger monitor to the smaller one -_-
22:09 HighMan *ridiculous
22:10 SparkyProjects1 If you move from the bottom of the large one, where would the mouse emerge on the small one ?
22:10 SparkyProjects1 I haven't played with it, but i don't know what happens if you change resolution of the larger monitor
22:11 HighMan It stays on the large screen but if I move it up until it goes to the other monitor it's at the very bottom on the little monitor.
22:11 Seroster ajcc, The only instance water/oil caps could work is if they are frozen solid, which is a problem due to the salt in the water
22:11 HighMan And I really don't want to change resoilution... Everything is fitted on here.
22:12 Seroster Ever frozen SSSS? It doesn't as much freeze as become a sludge
22:14 SparkyProjects1 I think the only way to get the monitor and mouse to work the way you want it is to have same size monitors
22:14 HighMan Yah :( Ah well.
22:15 SparkyProjects1 My netbook is only a 10" display, so adding a 22" to it looks weird, but is more useful
22:16 HighMan xD
22:19 HighMan Final Product. http://i41.tinypic.com/30lnlsy.jpg
22:19 lwq_laptop you know your hard core when you work on an ipod while its on
22:19 HighMan xD ^ You know you're dumb when you are working on a ps2 and you shock yourself. (It's plugged in.)
22:19 HighMan I've gotten bit my a light switch... How many volts does that put out?
22:20 HighMan Last thing I need to finish this dual monitor set up. A swivel lcd mount.
22:20 lwq_laptop you shocked yourself with a light switch
22:20 lwq_laptop in your case most likely 110v
22:21 HighMan Yes. And I made a little welt in a cheap harbor freight pair of test leads. Meter works though.
22:21 HighMan YAY!
22:21 HighMan It didn't hurt that bad..
22:22 lwq_laptop highman your a dumbass
22:22 ajcc 00:22 < lwq_laptop> highman your a dumbass
22:22 ajcc ops
22:22 HighMan ...?
22:22 HighMan O XD
22:22 ajcc I never learn which one is paste and copy
22:22 SparkyProjects1 Had several shocks from 240, just throws your arm back violently
22:23 HighMan I did it 2 times, one near a stair case... I didn't fall lol
22:23 HighMan SparkyProjects1 Now that.... I wouldn't really want to touch.
22:23 lwq_laptop 240 does hurt like a bitch. only shocked once. never will try to help my dad without knowing what im doing
22:23 epictang0 i had a close call with 480 once a looooooooong time ago when i was stupid
22:23 Monkeh 240VAC? Hurt?
22:23 HighMan Hahaha, Oh look a blown main wire in fuse box. Let me get my pair of dikes and solder.
22:24 * HighMan Shoots monkeh with 1k volts and 1k amps.
22:24 lwq_laptop i saw a lineman working outside the house get blown off his boom truck when he did something wrong when hooking up the transformer
22:24 HighMan ...Damn.
22:24 Gaxnys I licked a 9V battery once.
22:24 HighMan And he wasn't properly grounded/
22:24 epictang0 I made a 100ft metal fishtape one with the metal conduit i was working in...oops
22:25 HighMan Gaxnys I have never done that... Too afraid lol
22:25 Gaxnys http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/971/Sohardcore.jpg
22:25 Monkeh HighMan: ... being grounded would be the problem.
22:25 lwq_laptop he got up and started walking. he was ok but damn that must of hurt
22:25 HighMan monkeh...
22:25 HighMan WOW SO FUNNY.
22:25 SparkyProjects1 I've licked many 9v batteries, it's not bad
22:25 lwq_laptop lol
22:25 lwq_laptop thats how you see if its good
22:26 HighMan I've heard stories of people licking 9v batteries.... In parallel of up to like 1000.
22:26 epictang0 so thats the problem with SparkyProjects1 ;-)
22:26 HighMan lwq_laptop Tjat
22:26 HighMan lwq_laptop 9v battery is equal to no more usage of a vibrator.
22:26 SparkyProjects1 Yeah, i'm supercharged :D
22:26 lwq_laptop i used to shock myself for fun with a little 9v rocket ignitor
22:26 HighMan I actually want to try that.... Replacement of a vibrator with a 9v battery...
22:27 * HighMan gives masterofmonks the 9v battery. CaptainNiobe You ready?
22:27 HighMan :d
22:27 HighMan :D
22:27 * lwq_laptop slaps highman
22:27 HighMan xD
22:32 ajcc I wonder if Rachel is hearing all this :/, I hope not.
22:32 HighMan xD Same. She might kill me lol
22:32 HighMan *Raechel.
22:32 epictang0 so, i am looking at the liebert foundation mcr racks for a ~500 site deployment...just got around to reading an email from the sales engineer that states each site will need an onsite eval by emerson...wtf
22:33 Electricguy bedtime! night all
22:33 HighMan Night electricguy.
22:34 epictang0 may have to rethink this, but they are really a perfect solution
22:37 HighMan Marie Curie.
22:38 SparkyProjects1 epictang0: they probably do that to help with the warranty, if you don't have a survey, then the warranty may be void.
22:38 epictang0 thats what i was thinking...but damn...to get all those surveys done is going to be a bitch
22:38 HighMan Is this for your job?
22:38 epictang0 yeah
22:38 HighMan What are you trying to work for?
22:39 epictang0 trying to work for?
22:39 epictang0 lmao
22:39 Monkeh HighMan: No, he's just idly thinking about getting quotes on equipment for 500 different locations.
22:39 ajcc the daily bread? :)
22:39 HighMan ....What is your job going to be...
22:39 epictang0 i do this as a hobby
22:39 HighMan monkeh: I haven't been paying attention -_-
22:39 HighMan Ah ok...
22:39 epictang0 just pick a company and engineer a network for them
22:39 HighMan Ah ok
22:39 epictang0 *facepalm*
22:39 HighMan :P
22:40 SparkyProjects1 We had survets done for other equipment we wanted on site, it's usually a guy comes round and checks if everything is suitable, and may make suggestions for the installation
22:40 HighMan Way to put things in perspective monkeh.
22:40 epictang0 SparkyProjects1: i am going to find out more tomorrow, but part of me says they are going to charge an assload for this
22:41 HighMan *A Metric Ass Load.
22:41 epictang0 but really if they are willing to pay that much for those racks, it should be free
22:41 epictang0 with lube
22:41 SparkyProjects1 Should be in the quote, or at least it should be mentioned what approximate cost to add
22:42 epictang0 it isnt, that is why i was kinda interested in the asterisk
22:43 Experimentonomen *yaaaawn*
22:43 epictang0 the only thing i can forsee is it delaying deployment a bit for those really remote sites...*shrug*
22:43 Seroster Yay, cleaning flasks..
22:44 SparkyProjects1 In our main computer suite we had 2 cooling units, they were tied together, but we only needed one running at a time, the other was back up, and every few days a different one would be in use so they stayed reliable
22:44 SparkyProjects1 Peace of mind costs money
22:45 epictang0 so very true...
22:46 SparkyProjects1 It's like how do you expect an architect to design a house for you if he doesn't visit the site
22:46 masterofmonks HighMan, Not cool.
22:46 HighMan Hi monks...
22:46 * HighMan Hides in a bomb shelter.
22:48 Experimentonomen aight im off, nite peepz
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22:48 BatSteve hi Seroster
22:49 BatSteve Happy Easter, those who celebrate Easter!  Happy April 8th, those who don't!
22:49 epictang0 true true...I guess it is going to be a thing with the nema 12 racks...i would not feel comfortable deploying anything else
22:50 * Thermoelectric wonders where he can find a 1HP 4 pole motor.
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22:53 epictang0 Thermoelectric: the surplus store?
22:53 Thermoelectric I'm not sure where there are surplus stores around here.
22:54 Thermoelectric I know of electrical retailers but I don't want to think of their prices...
22:57 Seroster Yo BatSteve
22:57 Seroster Send me mail.
22:58 BatSteve already done
22:58 Seroster *Ding*
22:58 Seroster It came in the second I sent that last message xD
23:00 BatSteve heh
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23:03 lwq_laptop hia BatSteve happy easter weather you celebrate it or no
23:03 lwq_laptop not*
23:04 BatSteve Thanks lwq!
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23:09 lwq_laptop hi jess
23:09 KawaiiJess Ohai thar
23:13 lwq_laptop damn i got a bad headache
23:14 lwq_laptop anyone know a free calling program or website that will work with ubuntu and is FREE or only have to watch video's and stuff for minutes
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23:15 lwq_laptop happy easter kate :)
23:15 BatSteve hi Katemonster, what did you need?
23:15 Katemonster SUDDENLY BETRAYAL.
23:16 Katemonster i found it though.
23:16 Katemonster and thanks lee
23:16 lwq_laptop well i need porn and bitches idk if you need anything :P
23:16 HighMan BotSteve: tell tehdark Can't take a hint huh?
23:16 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when tehdark is around.
23:17 lwq_laptop highman you fail its tehdark45
23:17 HighMan Thankyou.
23:17 HighMan botsteve: tell tehdark45 Can't take a hint huh?
23:17 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when tehdark45 is around.
23:18 lwq_laptop lol he just messaged me saying "hy is mad bro"
23:18 BatSteve Katemonster: EVE online?
23:18 Katemonster yep
23:18 BatSteve ^_^
23:18 Katemonster jess and i were talking about it.
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23:24 epictang0 lwq_laptop: doesnt google voice work with linux?
23:25 lwq_laptop -blink blink- google has a thing?
23:25 lwq_laptop FUCK
23:25 epictang0 voice.google.com
23:25 ajprog_laptop I use it
23:26 epictang0 i do too...but have never used it with linux
23:26 lwq_laptop must be able too
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23:26 epictang0 i would assume so, i am checking now
23:29 lwq_laptop there is no numbers for my area code
23:30 Seroster Have google released a computer OS yet?
23:31 BatSteve .g chromebook
23:31 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.google.com/chromebook/
23:31 HighMan Yah...
23:32 epictang0 yep it works
23:32 HighMan Seroster Yes they have. Don't you remember the CR48 laptops google were giving away.
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23:32 epictang0 lwq_laptop: just use a diff area code?
23:32 HighMan (I had a fun experience... I tried to get one when I broke all my laptops :()
23:32 tehdark45 Ahhh it is a lee
23:32 BotSteve tehdark45: I have the following messages for you:
23:32 BotSteve At 23:17Z, roadran422 asked me to tell tehdark45 Can't take a hint huh?
23:32 Seroster I wonder when you can buy the Gspork, the Google energy drink or the Gcar... Google is to the internet what the CCC is to the soft drinks industry.
23:33 HighMan xD ^
23:33 HighMan Somehow there is going to be coke added in to it "by accident"
23:34 tehdark45 HighMan, You just can't take anything
23:34 tehdark45 :P
23:34 HighMan Dude everyday you just send me shit like, "sfalhjsjag"
23:34 tehdark45 And you never omplained
23:34 HighMan Because I didn't want to be a douche.
23:34 HighMan I thought you'd learn for once. Till I actually gave.
23:35 tehdark45 Ummm if some guy is sending you gibberish it is not douchy to say you dont want that
23:35 tehdark45 lol
23:37 epictang0 aziz ansari is cracking me up...
23:38 Seroster SparkyProjects1, How much surface area do you reckon I'll need in the outer sleeve of water?    I.E could I just throw a foot or two of wire in there and be set, or should I do something more elaborate, like... Idk, wire mesh on the bottom?
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23:40 HighMan Derp
23:40 Seroster ...How the fuck did that happen? xD
23:40 HighMan Idk ask "Grelsnurk"
23:40 HighMan Wtf is that.
23:40 HighMan .g grelsnurk
23:40 BotSteve HighMan: No results found for 'grelsnurk'.
23:41 Seroster It still uses Grelsnurk? =D
23:41 HighMan Sure.
23:41 HighMan "Seroster (~Seroster@h87-96-226-31.dynamic.se.alltele.net) has left #thegeekgroup ("Parted: Grelsnurk"
23:41 Seroster LOL
23:41 Seroster Itat's wonderful!
23:41 HighMan What the freak is that supposed to mean? xD
23:41 Seroster ...Don't ya know what a Grelsnurk is?
23:41 HighMan NO.
23:41 HighMan xD
23:42 Seroster You are pretty damn lucky
23:42 HighMan Is it spelled right?
23:42 HighMan Google doesn't know what it means...
23:42 Seroster Most who encounter the Grelsnurk won't live to tell about it.
23:42 Seroster OFCOURSE google doesn't know, the Grelsnurk has erased itself from googles servers, in order to stay hidden.
23:43 SparkyProjects1 You only need contact with the water, so just some wire will do
23:44 Seroster The electricity won't have to travel more than a foot tops in the water, and it is quite a lot of it. No problems with resistance?
23:44 SparkyProjects1 Not with the salinity of  your water :P
23:45 Seroster I bought more salt yesterday
23:45 SparkyProjects1 If you're worried, just put more strands in
23:45 Seroster About two kilos, and I already have half a kilo laying around
23:45 Seroster If you aint worried I aint worried =P
23:45 HighMan .c 2kilos in to pounds
23:45 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
23:45 Seroster What do I do if I hear a lot of corona in there?
23:45 Seroster .c 2kg to pounds
23:45 BotSteve 4.40924524 pounds
23:45 HighMan HOLY H*** How much salt do you need to make a damn cap?!?!?
23:45 Seroster I.E 2pounds in a kilo
23:46 HighMan I'll remember that lol ^
23:46 Seroster HighMan, Salt is 50cents a kilo.
23:46 Seroster For fine food grade salt
23:46 HighMan I know.... But why so much?
23:46 Seroster Why not?
23:46 Seroster I have yet to see a saltwater cap with too much salt.
23:46 HighMan What's the cure for sodium chloride overdose?
23:46 Seroster Water. Lots of it
23:46 HighMan xD
23:46 Seroster Or..
23:47 HighMan Won't it become super saturated with salt?
23:47 Seroster Depending on how long it was since you ingested the nacl, a few gallons of milk.
23:47 Seroster HighMan, The entire point of the salt in the capacitor is to make SuperSaturatedSaltSolution
23:47 Seroster I'll even boil it into solution
23:48 HighMan Until you add enough water to make the water in to a brick of salt, I'll believe you when you say it's super saturated.
23:48 Seroster How much of each wire going into bottles should be stripped, SparkyProjects1? A thumb's lenght?
23:48 HighMan Who's yours or his ;)
23:48 HighMan THAT WAS A BAD PUN.
23:48 Seroster HighMan, I had water so saturated the salt formed crystals on the surface when the water cooled.
23:49 SparkyProjects1 Strip the full length that's in the water
23:49 HighMan ...Damn.
23:49 HighMan I mixed lots of water and salt and the solution turned pee yellow..
23:49 Seroster Not a little crystals either, a good centimeter for 6cm of water.
23:49 HighMan (Table salt that is.)
23:49 Seroster It was 20% by volume salt.
23:49 HighMan Damn
23:49 Seroster What kind of salt? Like ultra high iodine salt?
23:51 HighMan Yes
23:51 HighMan Sure
23:51 HighMan It had iodine/
23:52 HighMan I also put it in a milk jug... So idk if that did anything lol

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