Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-04-18

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00:00 eadthem how heavy are you?
00:00 wannabe1987 he's a skinny mofo
00:00 Polesch I just spent all day with a nitric acid synthesis
00:00 wannabe1987 i don't know what that means, Polesch
00:00 injektion eadthem, skinny
00:00 eadthem ya gonna say if your a skinny mofo  and it says 1 to 2   id lean on the  1
00:00 Polesch Good :P
00:01 masterofmonks Polesch, Fun.
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00:01 wannabe1987 awww
00:01 wannabe1987 bye injektion
00:01 wannabe1987 .tfw 49426
00:02 BotSteve 48 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Hudsonville, MI!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
00:02 wannabe1987 thats why its a bit cool out...is ee
00:02 eadthem .tfw 66062
00:02 BotSteve 70 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Olathe, KS!  'FUCKING SWEET'
00:02 Polesch wannabe1987: http://youtu.be/GXCzamZ1Ufw
00:02 BotSteve Title: Nitric Acid Distillation - YouTube
00:02 eadthem nurd rage?
00:02 wannabe1987 no vid sry
00:02 wannabe1987 i'm working in my car
00:02 Polesch Oh, okay
00:03 eadthem working not driving right?
00:03 KawaiiJess .tfw 99223
00:03 BotSteve 53 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Spokane, WA!  'I've seen better days'
00:03 Polesch eadthem, that video is me. I do like NurdRage though
00:03 KawaiiJess I take it TFW is short for The FUCKING Weather?
00:03 eadthem yep
00:03 eadthem its a website
00:04 wannabe1987 yes jess
00:04 KawaiiJess Any of you have any experience with iPhone word processors?
00:04 wannabe1987 eadthem:yes working.  not driving.
00:04 wannabe1987 later i drive....now i clean out/organize
00:04 * wannabe1987 has chocolate mint marshmallows
00:04 wannabe1987 yum
00:05 KawaiiJess I'm just wondering if anyone has a preference between Pages, QuickOffice Pro, and the third party version of MS Word
00:06 KawaiiJess I think I'm going to go with Pages because it seems the best supported of the 3
00:06 eadthem no libreoffice?
00:06 KawaiiJess Pretty sure linux is too cool to be on the iPhone :P
00:07 eadthem it runs on mac
00:07 SparkyProjects What formats do they save in
00:07 SparkyProjects In openoffice you have the option of saving as a .doc, but some with MS can't open it
00:07 KawaiiJess True. I just checked and there isn't an app
00:08 KawaiiJess At the very least, Pages saves in Pages, PDF, and .doc
00:08 KawaiiJess I assume it's actually .docx, but they don't specifiy
00:08 SparkyProjects Might be something to try when you install it
00:08 KawaiiJess Yeah
00:09 wannabe1987 bye all!
00:09 wannabe1987 off to work, be back on after 10
00:09 KawaiiJess It is Apple after all. I would think they're on top of that
00:09 KawaiiJess Pages has the best rating of the three and it seems the other two have shoddy support and long gaps between updates
00:10 SparkyProjects Seems that open office is specific (many options of .doc) so a MS user may not be able to open it, but another might
00:12 KawaiiJess The company behind the third party MS Word apparently also partakes in shady business practices. Something about paying a reviewer to write an article and he wrote a bad one so they tried to force him to write another one that was good before they would pay him.
00:12 KawaiiJess He basically told them to fuck off. As the story goes
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00:48 Hackbat ow
00:48 Hackbat owowowowow D:
00:48 Hackbat ow
00:49 Hackbat An IBM model M dropped on my foot
00:49 BitViper is the M ok ?
00:52 Hackbat 3 keys popped off
00:52 Hackbat but nothing broke
00:52 * epictang0 returns
00:52 Hackbat my foot has both a bruise AND a blood bruise
00:53 BitViper awww, the poor M, I hope it can be fixed
00:53 BitViper oh, and your foot too =P
01:00 * Cheezmo does some advanced titrations on paper
01:00 Cheezmo whee n.n
01:00 Cheezmo using references from 1916
01:03 epictang0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPdiQNWDeY
01:03 BotSteve Title: Gayle: Episode 1 - YouTube
01:03 epictang0 LMAO!
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01:09 pockitaru sup im back
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01:14 astro73_ "Steve Jobs built computers. Zuckerberg is a nerd." ...
01:26 KawaiiJess Be back in a bit. Gonna go buy an Apple Wireless Keyboard :D
01:33 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw
01:33 BotSteve Title: A DRAMATIC SURPRISE ON A QUIET SQUARE - YouTube
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02:11 tonsofpcs hi
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02:13 Toastdude Hi
02:13 astro73 hi toast
02:13 astro73 i hear it's your birthday
02:13 Toastdude ...Orbitron...
02:14 Toastdude Yep :)
02:14 astro73 apparently that's what it's called
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02:15 Toastdude Danke for the happy birthday earlier.
02:15 HighMan .cookie Toastdude
02:15 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
02:16 Toastdude :D
02:16 Toastdude Did you get my message Hy?
02:16 HighMan Uhm.... If it was thanks then yah xD
02:16 HighMan .cake Toastdude
02:16 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a tiramisu cake!
02:16 HighMan .w tiramisu
02:16 BotSteve "Tiramisu ([tiɾamiˈsu], Italian spelling: Tiramisù; lit. 'pick me up') is an Italian cake and dessert." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiramisu
02:16 HighMan xD You get the "pick me up" cake lololol
02:17 HighMan Go ask that special someone ;) Night!
02:17 astro73 i literally did the same thing earliert
02:17 Toastdude ...Night
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02:19 Toastdude KATE
02:19 Katemonster TOAST
02:19 Toastdude :D
02:19 Toastdude I haven't seen you on here in a long time..
02:19 Katemonster Neither have I.
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02:20 SarahM woooo
02:20 Katemonster Been busy.
02:20 * SarahM is back
02:20 Toastdude Hi Kelly!
02:20 SarahM hai birthday boy!
02:20 Katemonster Birfday?
02:20 SarahM toasty is growing up :sniff:
02:20 Toastdude :DE
02:20 Toastdude *  :D
02:21 Toastdude On my friend's card, she put "Have fun being old!"
02:22 Hackbat just found out I'm not 6 foor
02:22 Hackbat *foot
02:22 Hackbat I'm 5' 10"
02:22 Toastdude Ooh... I'm 5'8"
02:23 Katemonster LOL.  I'm glad I'm not the only person who's had that happen.
02:23 Hackbat my boyfriend is 6 foot ;3;
02:23 Toastdude ...he's kinda tall...
02:23 SarahM my x is 6'7"
02:23 SarahM your boyfriend isn't tall :P
02:24 Hackbat I thought he was shorter than me
02:24 SarahM mines the right height until he puts on das uber boots, then he's 2-3 inches taller :/
02:24 Hackbat this changes EVERYTHING
02:24 SarahM everything?
02:24 SarahM astro73?
02:25 astro73 didn't do it, wasn't me.
02:25 SarahM o ok
02:25 SarahM jqm asked a strange quetsion, wondered if she's been txting you?
02:25 astro73 yes she has
02:25 astro73 working on a ramona cosplay
02:26 SarahM interesting....
02:26 * egrsteve is mostly home
02:26 astro73 is that what she was asking about?
02:26 SarahM wondering if she should be scared of corwin
02:28 egrsteve obitron passes as being fun
02:28 astro73 SarahM, pm
02:29 SarahM were you on it?
02:30 egrsteve yes, it's fun
02:31 egrsteve it's official no work is going to get done at the lab now
02:32 SarahM zomg
02:32 SarahM darn....i don't have time to go to the lab tomorrow (work 2p-10p)
02:32 SarahM video?
02:33 SarahM did someone get video?
02:33 egrsteve idk, maybe christina might have
02:33 egrsteve or look at the live stream archive
02:34 astro73 lol, my ipod just played Want You Gone (Valve version), followed by Want You Gone (JoCo version)
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02:42 Toastdude lwq1996: Hi
02:42 lwq1996 hi
02:44 SarahM hi both of you
02:48 * SarahM is cold.
02:48 * SarahM is not allowed to wear a sweatshirt to work
02:48 Toastdude Why not?
02:48 * SarahM wore flipflops and shoved heels on, so is now barefoot
02:48 SarahM because i have to look nice
02:49 Toastdude Meh, screw looking nice... :P
02:49 SarahM if i want to keep my client i will look nice.  she's 92, she can have what she wants
02:49 SarahM she still lives at home!!!!!
02:50 Toastdude (joke)
02:51 lwq1996 -poker face-
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02:56 tonsofpcs btw, skyrim reference in NCIS tonight.
03:03 ajprog_laptop SarahM: do you have a sweater that you can bring next time?
03:03 SarahM i'm wearing one right now, but its 3/4 length.  i dunno.  maybe if i were wearing socks?  they're all in the car tho....i done did laundry today
03:03 SarahM i'd use one of her blankets but i don't wanna get preztel crumbs on them....
03:04 tonsofpcs SarahM: laptops generate heat :)
03:04 SarahM mineson a chair.  by about 3am it'll be too hot for my lab
03:04 SarahM p*
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03:05 SarahM just the person i was looking for!
03:06 * lwq1996 hugs lisa :D
03:06 astro73 watching the star wars ep1 critique
03:06 astro73 hi hhrlisa
03:06 hhrlisa Hi!
03:06 SarahM its a lisa....who needs to be in nsfw
03:07 hhrlisa done
03:08 hhrlisa also i should always be in nsfw
03:09 SarahM yeah...i know
03:09 hhrlisa :D
03:09 SarahM i wondered why you weren't!
03:09 hhrlisa i just got here
03:09 hhrlisa lol
03:10 SarahM so?  when i join my client joins me to both at one time.  you so need to stop using freenode.  wait, are you working?
03:10 eadthem nsfw ?
03:11 SarahM #tgg:nsfw :D
03:11 SarahM my new home.....
03:11 hhrlisa lol no im at home but i prefer freenode
03:11 SarahM psh
03:11 SarahM silly girl
03:12 astro73 ?
03:12 astro73 why would you prefer that silly webclient.
03:12 hhrlisa i know
03:12 SarahM she likes freenode!  so do you!  such weird people
03:12 hhrlisa i like free stuff
03:12 tonsofpcs uh.... this is freenode.
03:12 SarahM no, the webclient
03:12 SarahM vs a prgram client ?
03:12 SarahM like mirc, x chat/y chat, irssi etc
03:13 tonsofpcs webchat is webchat.
03:18 astro73 SarahM, i don't use freenode's web chat
03:18 hhrlisa i do
03:18 SarahM o.  i thought you did
03:18 astro73 i use my own web-based persistent chat
03:18 SarahM then only lisa is a silly one
03:18 astro73 and xchat
03:18 SarahM i use the one on tgg.org when i'm at the laurels
03:19 SarahM they block the port thatis needed for mirc :(
03:19 astro73 that is probably a frame of one of the web chats
03:21 egrsteve qweb irc hosted by freenode most likely
03:22 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/niehV <---- ROFL @ 3rd comment down
03:22 BotSteve Title: The Mayor of Minneapolis crowdsurfing at a Trampled By Turtles concert - Imgur
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03:26 SarahM yay
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03:26 SarahM astro73|roam is back
03:26 astro73 the router apparently restart
03:27 hhrlisa alright... im gonna shower. i need to get ready for birthday sex...
03:29 eadthem if i memcpy what could be a string or a vector (its templated so i wont know what it is)  that will work right?
03:29 eadthem C++
03:30 eadthem it just feels like it shuldnt be this easy
03:30 eadthem but i see how it is
03:30 SarahM whoa
03:30 SarahM we're on thinkgeek AND gizmodo today?!
03:33 SarahM http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/ecfb/?cpg=fbl_ecfb#tabs
03:33 BotSteve Title: ThinkGeek :: Electromagnetically Shrunken Quarters
03:34 SarahM http://gizmodo.com/5902892/how-to-shrink-a-quarter-using-electricity
03:34 BotSteve Title: How to Shrink a Quarter Using Electricity
03:35 astro73 SarahM, how the fuck will we supply that??
03:36 SarahM i have no clue
03:36 astro73 and i'm still wondering how much energy it takes to shrink a quarter
03:36 hhrlisa i think we already did,,, remember chris talked about 1000 sent of to retailers...
03:36 SarahM all i know is adam (bodne's nephew) runs stomper all day
03:36 SarahM or night?
03:37 SarahM "ThinkGeek is asking $30 US AMERICAN FOR THIS! Are they doing some kind late/super early April Fools product again?"  lol
03:37 SarahM i have netflix access.  what should i watch?
03:37 astro73 SarahM, firefly. anime.
03:37 astro73 something awesome
03:38 egrsteve idk, I know I plan on sleeping
03:38 astro73 .c 6000*100000
03:38 BotSteve 600 000 000
03:38 astro73 600 MW
03:38 SarahM i can't sleep yet :(
03:38 astro73 wait...
03:38 egrsteve a better measure would be joules
03:39 astro73 yeah, i just realized that :P
03:39 egrsteve as watts is joules/sec
03:39 astro73 or watt-hours, since that's what the company bills
03:39 egrsteve so it will seem high
03:39 egrsteve it's like 20-30 kJ i think
03:39 astro73 .c 6000 volts * 100000 amps * 0.001 seconds in watt-hours
03:39 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
03:40 astro73 you mean you can't do complex implicit unit conversions???
03:40 astro73 lame
03:40 SarahM quick!  code it so it will!
03:40 egrsteve wa might
03:40 egrsteve .wa  6000 volts * 100000 amps * 0.001 seconds in watt-hours
03:41 BotSteve convert 6000 V  (volts)&times;100000 A  (amperes)&times;0.00100 seconds to watt hours;167 W h  (watt hours);600 kJ  (kilojoules);0.6 MJ  (megajoules);600000 J  (joules);0.167 kW h  (kilowatt hours);~~ ( 0.14 ~~ 1\/7 ) &times; energy released by explosion of one kilogram of TNT ( 1 kilogram of TNT );~~ 1.3 &times; energy released by combustion of one gram of gasoline ( 0.01 energies released by combustion of one kilogra
03:41 SarahM o.O O.o  oooo science!  /me runs away
03:41 egrsteve seems a but high
03:42 astro73 167 Wh?
03:42 astro73 what's the going rate for electricity?
03:42 egrsteve as it takes 2 minuit ish to charge it on a 15A 120v outlet
03:42 egrsteve idk
03:43 * egrsteve needs sleep
03:43 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:43 SarahM niht steve
03:43 SarahM night*
03:43 astro73 you're the EE guy. how much current should that be, then?
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03:44 egrsteve problem is it's not a simple circuit at those power levels the reactance of the circuit is as if not more important than the resistance
03:45 egrsteve so it's very hard to approximate and harder to measure
03:45 egrsteve you could measure the voltage with a scope, it would follow the appx shape of the current but phase shift between them is important there
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03:46 egrsteve and the magnitude of the current
03:46 lwq1996 yup. this is the lever of fuck i give -holds out and empty hand-
03:46 egrsteve only way would be a huge current transformer or  some hall effect sensor trickory
03:47 egrsteve either way measuring over 100kA is not easy
03:48 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:49 astro73 so i'm going to stick to the 167 Wh and ask what consumer's is charging
03:50 tonsofpcs they charge by the KWh
03:50 tonsofpcs and it's often on the order of magnitude of cents or ttens of cents, not dollars....
03:56 SarahM cat or owl?
03:57 astro73 oh, so it's not actually much money
03:57 astro73 if these numbers are correct
03:57 SarahM exactly!
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03:58 SarahM jess!
04:02 astro73 i thought i heard it was significant (hundreds of dollars) per coin
04:02 eadthem i understand why and how it works
04:03 eadthem its still freaking me out that i can memcpy a class or std::string std::vector
04:04 eadthem i think the fact that it points out just how many lines of code goes in to a std::vector or string
04:04 astro73 eadthem, huh?
04:04 eadthem c++
04:04 astro73 yes
04:04 astro73 i got that
04:05 eadthem why would you ever want to memcpy a std::string?
04:05 astro73 and I didn't think you could memcpy the class itself, but certainly the instances
04:05 astro73 because you want to move it, or make a copy of it?
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04:05 eadthem template <class templateType> void dataContainer<templateType>::copyData(templateType * to,templateType * from)
04:05 eadthem { memcpy(to,from,sizeof(templateType)); }
04:06 astro73 yeah?
04:06 astro73 in C++, an instance is just its data struct
04:06 eadthem yep
04:06 astro73 so you can just memcpy that, and many classes will still work
04:06 eadthem the reason why std works is the datas stored with malloc
04:06 eadthem off the stack
04:06 eadthem or new
04:06 KawaiiJess Hi SarahM
04:06 astro73 although any with pointers to data will fail
04:06 eadthem depeneding on hwo you see it
04:08 astro73 eadthem, depending on the class, that's the usual way to dynamically allocate space
04:08 astro73 arrays on the stack are static, although i don't know why
04:09 eadthem because you cant go threu every varable made by every line of code after its declration and slide stuff around to accomodate a larger array than anticpated
04:10 astro73 you can't necessarily do that with malloc, either
04:10 astro73 but you should be able to allocate something of a dynamic size once on the stack
04:12 astro73 also, C++ is a terrible language. complexity of OOP with the pitfalls of C.
04:12 eadthem well with malloc you can use realloc and get a 50/50 chance at not doing a memcpy for a size increase
04:13 eadthem i find c++ to be quite elegent when used right
04:13 astro73 with just enough black-box abstraction to make things odd
04:13 astro73 the point of C isn't elegant
04:13 astro73 the point of C is to be fast and detailed
04:13 eadthem if you just do c then no
04:14 astro73 if you want elegant, use a high-level language, like lisp, ruby, haskell, etc
04:14 astro73 C++ is an attempt to add OOP to C
04:14 eadthem i do  and im saying that c/c++ in a proper mix is elegent
04:14 eadthem most of the time
04:14 astro73 i find it's much too fragile and makes things more difficult than necessary
04:15 eadthem there are certan dirty things that there are no easy beautiful ways of doing
04:16 astro73 and what kind of a language lets you write duff's device, anyway???
04:16 eadthem ?
04:16 astro73 .w duff's device
04:16 BotSteve "In computer science, Duff's device is an optimized implementation of a serial copy that uses a technique widely applied in assembly language for loop unwinding." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duff's_device
04:16 astro73 it's an exceedingly clever thing that is an atrocity to syntax
04:18 eadthem see now that is voodoo
04:18 astro73 yes
04:18 eadthem voodoo and tricky code ususaly mean bad code
04:18 astro73 in the usual meanings of "good code", i agree that duff's device is bad
04:19 astro73 but it also has an elegance to it and a large dose of clever
04:19 eadthem i think it looks similar to something i did a while back
04:19 eadthem but i used binary operations   not modulus
04:20 astro73 in this case, mod is a binary operation
04:20 eadthem ya
04:20 eadthem iirc myn took anything over my copy size   4  as for 32 bit systems
04:20 eadthem and used that for the loop counter
04:21 eadthem and then at the end cleaned up anything smaller in a single byte loop
04:21 eadthem i did it more of as a dare
04:22 astro73 the problem with C++ is that it adds complexity like vtables, virtual methods, classes, multiple inheritance, etc without giving the programmer any help
04:22 eadthem never used vtables  never used virtual methods
04:22 astro73 vtables are implied
04:22 eadthem multiple inerhetance sounds evil
04:23 astro73 virtual methods are whenever you add "virtual" to a method declaration, required for "normal" overloading
04:23 eadthem classes and templated classes  unnamed structs and unnanmed unions  and  unions with unnnamed structs   that i do
04:23 astro73 and multiple inheritance is evil if you do it willy-nilly
04:23 eadthem i never understood what advatage virtual gave you
04:24 astro73 class Foo { ... }; class Bar : public Foo { ...};
04:24 astro73 normally, ((Bar)x).baz() will call a different method than ((Foo)x).baz()
04:24 astro73 even if x is an instace of Bar
04:24 astro73 so you can't overload the method
04:24 eadthem ahhha so it just specifys that said function can be overridden by a higher detaled class
04:25 astro73 but if you declare the method virtual in Foo, that works as expected it
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04:25 astro73 and ((Foo)x).baz() will still call Bar.baz()
04:25 eadthem ooo now thats voodoo
04:25 astro73 ummm...
04:25 astro73 no
04:25 astro73 that's how higher languages do OOP
04:26 astro73 it's kind of important when doing subclasses and extensibility
04:26 eadthem so the higher detaled classes function will become the function  overriding the smaller classes function
04:26 eadthem but still call the smaller classes function when its run
04:27 astro73 that's the idea, yes
04:27 eadthem i could see a fue situations where that would help
04:27 astro73 you should look into dynamic languages more
04:27 astro73 it's something you do all the time
04:27 eadthem sounds like 1 of those tools that  has a special use where it works great  and a lot where it dont
04:27 eadthem like a union
04:28 astro73 heck, it's basic in Java
04:28 astro73 C++ adds classes, but doesn't do class trees or inheritance well
04:29 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/ring/src/ringBuffer.h
04:29 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/ring/src/cas.h
04:29 eadthem well thats what i was just working on
04:29 eadthem im off to bed  cya
04:32 * SarahM puts out a bowl of jelly beans
04:32 * SarahM picks through, grabbing all black ones for herself
04:32 astro73 see, that's the kind of thing that should be done in C(++)
04:32 astro73 SarahM, you can have them
04:33 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/utihJ
04:33 SarahM thats why i want them.  so fucking yummy
04:33 BotSteve Title: Literally 4chan - Imgur
04:35 SarahM lol
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04:44 newguy Hello , anyone on?
04:45 astro73 just the zombies
04:45 astro73 braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains
04:45 newguy lol
04:45 SarahM hi newguy!  how was your first day?
04:45 newguy well Tim and I have desk's!
04:46 wannabe1987 thats always good!  who is tim?
04:46 newguy he is the other sales guys
04:46 wannabe1987 i might have time to come in tomorrow (weds) otherwise i'll be in on thurs
04:46 wannabe1987 ahhhh
04:46 newguy all and all it went well
04:47 wannabe1987 you up in daves office?
04:47 newguy yeah
04:47 wannabe1987 cool
04:47 newguy Dave seemed pretty happy to have people in the office
04:48 newguy much talk of Nerf gun wars
04:48 wannabe1987 well, yes.  zomb!
04:48 newguy I got to meet moose, and Adam
04:49 wannabe1987 did you meet the computer guys?  my boyfriend was helping boden put together the orbitron today
04:49 newguy Yeah had a meeting with them in the morning
04:49 wannabe1987 how'd that go?
04:49 newguy nice guys, looking to get them busy
04:50 wannabe1987 good!  as his girlfriend he needs to be busy!
04:50 newguy which one are you the gf to Andrew or Mike?
04:50 astro73 who's newguy?
04:50 wannabe1987 i'm busy enough atm with two jobs he needs one too
04:50 wannabe1987 he likes to be called zozo in chat....but mike
04:50 wannabe1987 and we call andrew Cprossu in chat
04:50 wannabe1987 :)
04:50 astro73 you mean Cprossu isn't is name?
04:51 wannabe1987 no, sadly, its not
04:51 newguy I will keep that in mind
04:51 wannabe1987 i call him cpro irl tho :P
04:51 wannabe1987 thanks newguy
04:51 astro73 me too
04:51 astro73 btw, astro isn't my name
04:51 astro73 but everyone knows me by that name
04:51 newguy have i met you astro?
04:51 astro73 probably not, i don't go to the lab much
04:52 newguy oh ok
04:52 wannabe1987 i'm kelly at the lab, its what ya'll call me.  i do a lot of cleaning and general helping out/hiding when i'm there
04:52 newguy hiding? lol
04:52 wannabe1987 mhm
04:52 newguy We got some really cool stuff in today
04:53 newguy helped bring some stuff into the lounge
04:53 newguy arms got chewed a little
04:53 wannabe1987 the stuff from the trip to PA?  or other new stuff?
04:53 newguy PA I think
04:53 wannabe1987 ok.  i saw the stuff in MDH last (mon) night but didn't get a close look
04:55 wannabe1987 so other than grunt work, what'd you do today?
04:55 wannabe1987 o and whats your name other than "newguy"
04:56 * wannabe1987 finds it sexist that the girls (me and christina) are the ones that clean at the lab while the men do the "real" work
04:56 astro73 i agree
04:56 newguy Well we got our work space up and running , the computer guys got us wired up with computers and hopefully tomorrow phones
04:57 astro73 the people that make the mess need to clean it
04:57 newguy my name is Nathan
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04:57 wannabe1987 astro, noone knows who made the sticky spots on the floor in radio (well, noone will fess up to it) but i still need to clean that floor
04:57 wannabe1987 haven't been to the lab to work all week
04:57 wannabe1987 been busy sleeping
04:58 astro73 my point then
04:58 astro73 if you're going to be cleaning up after all of them, the least they could do is buy you gas
04:58 wannabe1987 hahaha
05:02 newguy did you guys see the shrunken quarters?
05:02 wannabe1987 zozo has one
05:02 wannabe1987 and a shrunken dime
05:02 wannabe1987 :)
05:02 wannabe1987 i found them in his pockets doing laundry todya....
05:02 newguy pretty cool stuff
05:02 wannabe1987 yep.  i keep telling fb peeps to buy one
05:04 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/WU66R <--- have fun sleeping tonight
05:04 BotSteve Title: When I say "Everyone," I mean EVERYYOOONNNEEEEE - Imgur
05:04 wannabe1987 ...
05:05 Toastdude Night all
05:05 astro73 g'night toast
05:05 newguy night
05:05 Toastdude Hi newguy
05:06 newguy haha that was messed up, good movie
05:06 newguy Hi toast
05:07 newguy wannabe still there?
05:07 DamianZ wannabe is everywhere, she is omnipresent
05:07 wannabe1987 yeah
05:07 wannabe1987 wannabe seems to always be on irc....she's the welcoming committee!
05:07 wannabe1987 can i help you sir?
05:07 newguy she is the operator from the matrix
05:08 newguy you a dr. who fan?
05:08 newguy hey DamianZ
05:08 wannabe1987 of course
05:08 wannabe1987 so is zozo and astro73
05:08 newguy Torchwood?
05:08 astro73 torchwood is good
05:09 newguy I'm a big Dr. Who fan
05:09 newguy love the 11th Doctor
05:09 wannabe1987 we watched a rose/david tennent episode last night, with k9
05:09 astro73 meh
05:09 astro73 wannabe1987, and the school?
05:10 astro73 great ep!
05:10 astro73 Sarah Jane!
05:10 wannabe1987 mhm
05:10 newguy I cant believe we are losing Pond next season
05:10 wannabe1987 shhhhhhh
05:10 wannabe1987 i don't wanna know
05:10 wannabe1987 i already lost mah roes
05:10 newguy I know its like wtf
05:11 astro73 we're supposed to lose river, but moffat has never let silly things like plot constrain him
05:11 lwq1996 anyone watching doomsday prepers?
05:11 newguy well River's character is kinda done
05:11 newguy never heard of it lwq
05:12 lwq1996 its on natgeo
05:12 newguy any good, I have deadliest Catch on right now
05:13 lwq1996 pretty good. its a show where they show how people prep for the end of the world. this one is pretty interesting
05:13 astro73 also http://balalaikaboss.tumblr.com/post/21212707175/rory-has-been-becoming-much-more-irrational-and
05:13 BotSteve Title: Werfing flammen and pickeling hauben
05:13 astro73 i hope to god that this logic isn't true
05:13 wannabe1987 i think that netflix should be turned on
05:14 wannabe1987 dr who or firefly?
05:14 wannabe1987 help
05:14 astro73 which doctor?
05:14 astro73 if it's the 11th, do firefly
05:14 wannabe1987 2005-2011
05:14 wannabe1987 rewatching all
05:14 wannabe1987 i wasn't paying much attn first time through, apparently
05:14 newguy I like them both
05:15 wannabe1987 my camera needs to charge!  so i can put stuff up on etsy :(
05:15 newguy astro that links is interesting man
05:15 wannabe1987 it DIED
05:15 newguy never thought about rory's character
05:15 astro73 moffat better not fuck with rory that way
05:15 wannabe1987 i could watch the stuff from 1960s
05:15 wannabe1987 and on
05:15 astro73 i will end him
05:15 newguy i mean he has been alive for over a thousand years
05:16 astro73 but he doesn't remember that, does he?
05:16 astro73 i mean, they did reboot the universe
05:16 newguy right
05:16 newguy that was kinda wild twist
05:16 astro73 it's hard to keep track of what did and didn't happen
05:16 newguy I dunno what will happen, looking forward to next season
05:17 newguy do you know when new shows start
05:17 wannabe1987 no
05:17 wannabe1987 but looking forward just the same
05:17 newguy the Christmas episode was ok
05:17 wannabe1987 i watched it with astro
05:17 wannabe1987 it was neat
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05:17 newguy I mean dont get me wrong, it was a beautiful story
05:18 newguy I like how this doctor is more angry
05:18 astro73 not as angry as 9
05:19 newguy I cant remember his name but he always plays thugs in movies
05:19 * wannabe1987 plays tardis theme song
05:19 astro73 chris eclesomething?
05:19 newguy I have my sonic screw driver next to me
05:19 wannabe1987 well, arent you special
05:20 newguy best 30 bucks spent
05:20 wannabe1987 question: fuse earrings....should i cut the bottom wire off if not adding something to the bottom?
05:20 newguy ever see the Big Lewbowski
05:20 wannabe1987 nope
05:20 astro73 wannabe1987, *shrug*
05:20 wannabe1987 i'm behind in movies
05:20 newguy oh what!
05:20 astro73 don't know anything about ear gear
05:21 newguy its awesome
05:21 wannabe1987 otherwise theres a loop at the bottom thats not in use
05:21 wannabe1987 i'm sure it is....zozo doesn't like movies
05:21 wannabe1987 i'd take a pic toshow you but camera died
05:21 wannabe1987 and i have a necklace done :D
05:21 wannabe1987 need more chains tho...
05:22 newguy astro... Big Lewboski?
05:22 astro73 newguy, nope
05:23 newguy I highly recommend it
05:23 Nekoroms watched it couple weeks ago
05:23 newguy what did you think>?
05:23 Nekoroms its ok
05:24 newguy its a little out there kinda movie
05:24 wannabe1987 zomg lag
05:25 newguy what about Tron, Old and New
05:25 astro73 <3 tron
05:25 astro73 i have no idea why
05:25 astro73 but <3 tron
05:25 newguy I love both movies
05:25 wannabe1987 i enjoyed new, haven't seen old afaik
05:26 newguy wish they would make light clothes like that
05:26 astro73 it's called EL wire
05:26 astro73 amazing stuff
05:26 * wannabe1987 semi-dislikes this episode!
05:26 newguy I heard that stuff is really fragile
05:26 wannabe1987 too many manequins!!!!!
05:26 astro73 wannabe1987, which one?
05:26 astro73 newguy, idk, never played with it
05:26 wannabe1987 S01E01, rose
05:26 astro73 it probably depends
05:26 astro73 oh lol
05:26 astro73 possibly
05:26 lwq1996 does a faraday cage protect against emp?
05:27 astro73 lwq1996, i would think so
05:27 Nekoroms should
05:28 newguy never heard of it
05:28 astro73 within limits of the conductivity of your cage
05:28 astro73 .w faraday cage
05:28 BotSteve "A Faraday cage or Faraday shield is an enclosure formed by conducting material or by a mesh of such material." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
05:28 wannabe1987 when someone says how long the chain is, for a necklace, its from end to end, right?
05:28 lwq1996 ok. know how to protect my electronics from emp if nulear war happens
05:28 newguy yeah wannabe
05:29 wannabe1987 .c 8+8+7
05:29 BotSteve 23
05:29 wannabe1987 ok
05:29 newguy 23 inch chain?
05:29 wannabe1987 mhm
05:29 newguy box chain?
05:29 wannabe1987 not sure where it came from tbh
05:29 wannabe1987 no?
05:29 wannabe1987 they're ovals
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05:30 wannabe1987 i found it in my bag of jewelry making supplies
05:30 lwq1996 can a metal trash can act as a faraday cage?
05:30 wannabe1987 LISA!
05:30 hhrlisa YES
05:30 wannabe1987 woooo how was shower?
05:30 astro73 hi lisa
05:30 hhrlisa awesome
05:30 newguy Hello Lisa
05:30 hhrlisa Hello
05:31 wannabe1987 anyone know electronics?
05:31 astro73 what about them?
05:32 wannabe1987 i got stuff from the electronics goldmine and i need help identifying what it is :P
05:32 astro73 start posting
05:32 einball gÄmorning
05:32 wannabe1987 well, its a thin wire with a black thing on it thats wrapped in red wires.
05:32 wannabe1987 morning einball!
05:32 astro73 "black thing"
05:32 astro73 that's not helpful
05:32 lwq1996 RACIST
05:32 lwq1996 pictures?
05:32 newguy is that anything like the thingy ma jig
05:33 astro73 i think this might have to wait until her camera works
05:33 wannabe1987 yeah...probably
05:33 einball .t
05:33 BotSteve Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:33:33 GMT
05:33 einball .t tgg
05:33 BotSteve Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:33:37 TGG
05:33 lwq1996 got a cell with a cam?
05:33 einball oh okay .. eyplains why its dark in there :)
05:33 wannabe1987 feels like plastic
05:33 wannabe1987 hahah no lee
05:33 wannabe1987 thats funny
05:34 wannabe1987 yes, einball it does
05:34 hhrlisa .tfw 49509
05:34 BotSteve 37 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Even penguins are wearing jackets.'
05:34 wannabe1987 and yes newguy, its like a thingamajig
05:34 * wannabe1987 sneezes
05:34 wannabe1987 gah
05:34 MoxieMike_ .tfw 04101
05:34 BotSteve 54 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Portland, ME!  'OH NO. THE WEATHER MACHINE IS BROKEN.'
05:35 newguy Portland sounds awesome right now
05:35 wannabe1987 yes
05:35 MoxieMike_ it was 81 mid-day today
05:35 wannabe1987 much better than here
05:35 wannabe1987 o.O
05:35 astro73 .tfw 49301
05:35 BotSteve 37 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Ada, MI!  'Good baby making weather.'
05:35 MoxieMike_ too hot too quickly
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05:36 newguy I usually ride my bike at night and its been to cold
05:37 wannabe1987 how far from the lab do you live?
05:38 newguy 4 miles
05:38 hhrlisa thicker coat?
05:38 wannabe1987 north south east west?
05:39 wannabe1987 "now forget me, rose tyler"
05:39 wannabe1987 "i could never forget you, doctor!"
05:41 einball uhm .. no seller for that bench :(
05:42 hhrlisa ok im heading to bed. goodnight everyone
05:42 wannabe1987 night lisa
05:42 Seroster newguy, 4 miles is bike distance.
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05:43 wannabe1987 wb
05:44 newguy sorry about that
05:44 newguy battery died on the laptop
05:44 wannabe1987 happens
05:44 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:44 wannabe1987 the rubbish bin is moving btw
05:44 einball Does it live? o_O
05:44 wannabe1987 no, its dr who
05:45 einball :)
05:46 Seroster http://thedoghousediaries.com/   L O L
05:46 BotSteve Title: DOGHOUSE
05:48 wannabe1987 and the cork went through his forehead and out his mouth....nifty!
05:48 astro73 lol
05:48 astro73 you really did not pay attention the first time, did you?
05:48 wannabe1987 no
05:49 wannabe1987 i know this episode
05:49 wannabe1987 i just like to talk about it, sry
05:49 astro73 it's ok
05:58 newguy marco
05:58 wannabe1987 polo
05:58 newguy marco
05:58 wannabe1987 so are you north, south, east or west of the lab?
05:58 newguy north
05:59 wannabe1987 up alpine?
05:59 newguy at the lab in less then 5 min
05:59 newguy you got it
05:59 wannabe1987 cool
05:59 wannabe1987 tbh, this leatherman that cpro gave me is too big for my hands when using to make jewelry :P
06:00 wannabe1987 i've passed your house a bazillion times then :)
06:00 wannabe1987 i used to live 12th and jennette
06:00 newguy oh ok
06:01 astro73 leathermen don't work well for jewlery
06:01 astro73 i use a pair of bent-nose pliers when doing chainmail
06:01 wannabe1987 lol no, but i cant find my jewelry pliers....
06:01 Sgt_Lemming Gerber > Leatherman!
06:01 wannabe1987 it was free, lem, so i didn't have a choice....
06:01 Sgt_Lemming yeah I know, I was kidding
06:01 wannabe1987 my stanely is working great tho :)
06:02 newguy your telling me leather men didn't make jewelry?
06:02 Sgt_Lemming stanley make some nice tools
06:02 Seroster Ooooh please don't start a Gerber vs leatherman war
06:03 Seroster Especially since all the participants in that discussion got KNIVES
06:03 newguy I have a few
06:04 lwq1996 .wiki alt-tab
06:04 BotSteve "Alt+Tab ⇆ is the common name for a keyboard shortcut that has been in Microsoft Windows since Windows 3.0." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-tab
06:04 wannabe1987 knives?
06:04 newguy yes
06:04 wannabe1987 ooo
06:05 wannabe1987 zozo'll be interested to learn that....
06:05 newguy so have i met anyone at the lab on the channel yet?
06:05 wannabe1987 Cprossu = andrew from teh computer lab
06:05 wannabe1987 guardianzozo = the guy who runs computer lab (can't say his name, he'll get mad....)
06:06 wannabe1987 ggr = mitch during his show, in radio
06:06 wannabe1987 thats it for now
06:06 wannabe1987 i'll be in thursday i think
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06:06 wannabe1987 yes.  thursday and friday are my days off this week
06:07 wannabe1987 days/nights
06:07 * wannabe1987 works thirds doing in home health care and 2nds doing facility work for a nursing home
06:07 newguy I will be in
06:07 wannabe1987 cool
06:08 einball yNos is also here
06:08 wannabe1987 and egrsteve
06:08 wannabe1987 je
06:08 wannabe1987 je=mistake
06:08 wannabe1987 ynos works in the NOC and computer lab
06:09 wannabe1987 steve does the cameras, noc, computer, a/v, etc
06:09 wannabe1987 and producerbill runs robotics and co-runs the radiostation with zozo
06:09 einball And sometimes you see Chris, Moose, etc filckering around in here
06:10 newguy big family
06:10 wannabe1987 yep, esp cuz einball is in germany.  i'm near cascade and east paris in GR
06:10 wannabe1987 i live in hudsonville for now tho
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06:11 wannabe1987 hi Chipguy!
06:12 Chipguy hey wannabe1987
06:12 wannabe1987 now its the end of the world
06:12 newguy hey chipguy
06:12 Chipguy hehe the end is fine
06:13 Chipguy we will see 21.12. :P
06:13 Chipguy hey newwy
06:13 * wannabe1987 watches dr who
06:14 wannabe1987 i need more/better wire
06:14 wannabe1987 :sigh:
06:14 newguy well i'm off, have a good night
06:14 wannabe1987 night.  sleep well :D
06:14 * wannabe1987 does like the wirecutter on the leatherman tho :D
06:15 Seroster I prefer real tools.
06:16 KawaiiJess wannabe1987, you're getting a leatherman too?
06:16 wannabe1987 cprossu gave me one
06:17 KawaiiJess Ah
06:21 KawaiiJess G'night
06:25 wannabe1987 helicopter?
06:25 einball wannabe1987: What has "big family" to do with me living in germany? :)
06:25 wannabe1987 nope.....airplane
06:25 wannabe1987 silly airport
06:25 wannabe1987 well, we're a wide spread family, at least
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06:26 wannabe1987 and Electricguy! :D
06:26 Electricguy morning! :)
06:26 lwq1996 BLARG
06:27 * lwq1996 le wild lee appears from nowhere
06:28 lwq1996 ok. i should got to bed
06:28 wannabe1987 night hun :)
06:28 wannabe1987 hows Electricguy?
06:28 Electricguy tired
06:28 Electricguy and you?
06:29 einball wannabe1987: ah okay :)
06:29 wannabe1987 its 2:30am and i'm working till 8.  i'm making jewelry out of electronical components
06:29 Electricguy lol! http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580182_369161953127001_100000995979583_1018390_1723046828_n.jpg
06:29 * lwq1996 is sad
06:29 * lwq1996 misses his shannon :I
06:30 wannabe1987 i miss my zozo....
06:30 einball But wannabe1987 .. Iam not part of anyones family .. I was born in a petri dish, raised by a computer :o
06:30 astro73 ok, linux video tools are cumbersome
06:30 lwq1996 hal?
06:30 einball hell noooo
06:30 lwq1996 :P
06:30 einball GLaDOS :-)
06:30 wannabe1987 lol einball, i'll make you part of my family....adoption is cool!
06:30 lwq1996 .yt happy birthday polly
06:31 BotSteve lwq1996: No results found for 'happy birthday polly'.
06:31 einball wannabe1987: Did you mean "assimilation"? ;)
06:31 lwq1996 -poker face-
06:31 lwq1996 .yt happy birthday poly
06:31 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGbJIyKJfg
06:31 einball =)
06:31 wannabe1987 i don' know
06:31 wannabe1987 i'm too tired./out of it to know
06:32 * einball shower ... sexy shower, long shower, hot shower, chillout shower, pick one :p
06:32 wannabe1987 hot and long~!
06:32 wannabe1987 and NEKKID
06:33 einball :D
06:33 einball agreed ... See you later .. with red skin .. and bloodshed ey.. oh moment ... ;)
06:33 wannabe1987 take your moment(s) :)
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06:34 wannabe1987 hi gxr!
06:35 GXR hello
06:36 wannabe1987 hows you?
06:36 GXR i am alright, and yourself?
06:36 wannabe1987 not really wide awake
06:36 wannabe1987 making jewelry out of electronical components, but idk what they are....
06:36 wannabe1987 its interesting....
06:37 GXR sounds amusing
06:37 Chipguy jewelry out of components
06:37 Chipguy cooool
06:37 wannabe1987 i'll sell them on my etsy....:)
06:38 Chipguy heh
06:38 wannabe1987 make me some MONEY :D
06:38 Chipguy etsy ?
06:38 wannabe1987 www.etsy.com/shop/wannabe1987
06:39 wannabe1987 theres nothing listed due to camera battery dying
06:39 Chipguy ahhh
06:39 Chipguy cool site
06:39 Chipguy awwww battery died :/
06:40 Seroster cya
06:41 * wannabe1987 needs to go to hobby lobby, buy more clasps
06:42 Chipguy ok workytime for me
06:42 Chipguy have fun all
06:42 Chipguy nite wannabe1987
06:42 GXR im also off, later
06:42 wannabe1987 awww night Chipguy, GXR
06:43 astro73 so i just stuck xkcd in google image search
06:43 astro73 and then put in penny arcade
06:43 astro73 guess what's the #1 result for penny arcade
06:44 astro73 the xkcd parody
06:45 einball bam, back
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06:48 astro73 hi kate
06:48 Katemonster Hi astro.
06:49 astro73 yup late like me?
06:50 Katemonster i suppose so.
06:50 wannabe1987 not really
06:50 wannabe1987 she's on the west coast
06:50 wannabe1987 look at the clock!
06:50 Katemonster also true.
06:50 wannabe1987 ITS still tuesday there!
06:51 Katemonster i'd be going to bed now, nothing left to do, but my hair is wet.
06:51 wannabe1987 if its geeky jewelry is it listed under jewelry or geekery?
06:51 Katemonster etsy?
06:51 wannabe1987 mhm
06:51 Katemonster probably jewelry.'
06:51 Katemonster probably both.
06:52 wannabe1987 you can click geekery and then jewelry :D
06:53 Katemonster i guess there you go.
06:54 einball late? It's early in here :)
06:54 wannabe1987 whatever, einball
06:55 Katemonster the opening of this song is the sound i have stuck in my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_D44PHUbIE
06:55 BotSteve Title: Audioslave Light My Way - YouTube
06:56 wannabe1987 "the unquiet dead"
06:57 astro73 brb, reboot
07:00 Katemonster The Unquiet Dead?
07:00 wannabe1987 dro
07:00 wannabe1987 dr who
07:00 wannabe1987 *
07:00 Katemonster I know it's a Dr. Who episode but I haven't seen it.
07:01 lwq1996 bed time for me
07:01 Katemonster Bye.
07:01 lwq1996 later
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07:02 wannabe1987 kate, its the third episode of the first season
07:02 lwq1996 later astro
07:03 Katemonster Are you saying you're watching it, or was it a response to something I said?
07:03 wannabe1987 i'm watching it, sorry to confuse you
07:04 Katemonster I can't watch the Ninth Doctor.  I can't see that actor as anyone other than the asshole soldier in 28 Days Later.
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07:07 astro73 here's hoping for something less crashy....
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07:07 wannabe1987 gl
07:12 Katemonster CRASHYCRASHYCRASHYCRASHYCRASHY
07:12 astro73 i've got 2.5 out of 10 of material
07:13 astro73 shit
07:13 Katemonster ?
07:13 astro73 this thing i'm doing
07:13 astro73 10 minute video
07:13 astro73 i've got 2.5 minutes
07:13 Katemonster Also I apologize as my ability to make sense went out the window about 15 minutes ago.  Or maybe 15 years ago.  I forget.
07:13 Katemonster Oh.  Ouch.
07:14 astro73 this is where "shitshitshitshitshit" kicks in
07:14 wannabe1987 when is it due?
07:14 wannabe1987 what is it for?
07:15 astro73 morning, english
07:16 wannabe1987 uh oh
07:16 astro73 thankfully, voiceovers are included, so i don't really have to be awake to present it
07:16 wannabe1987 what kind of video?
07:16 * wannabe1987 sucks at photo taking with the light overhead....hmmmm
07:16 astro73 vlog?
07:16 astro73 think gcp grey on youtube
07:16 wannabe1987 ah.  can you take more?
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07:19 astro73 take more what?
07:19 wannabe1987 video?
07:20 astro73 oh, this is all clips
07:20 astro73 this is editing
07:20 wannabe1987 ahhhhh ok  you didn't say that
07:22 astro73 i just need another 8 minutes of material
07:34 * einball slips out the back
07:34 wannabe1987 i saw that
07:35 einball "You know me, I used to get caught up in everyday life
07:35 einball Tried to make it through my day so I could sleep at night" *rocks
07:38 Electricguy going to make a new home for my fm transmitter now. stream is going to be up  www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
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07:40 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen
07:40 einball hi Experimentonomen
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07:42 Experimentonomen g'mornin geeks and weird people
07:42 wannabe1987 wohoo!
07:43 wannabe1987 he included me :D
07:45 einball :)
07:45 wannabe1987 how does one pick a shipping price for an item?
07:46 einball "You know, you are ready for retirement, when you can catch the mornign toast in flight without even lookin at your hand while holding a cup of coffee in the other hand."
07:46 wannabe1987 astro73 is your girl still awake?
07:46 astro73 wannabe1987, i hope not, why?
07:46 wannabe1987 cuz she just set up an etsy too!
07:46 astro73 oh yeah
07:46 astro73 she did that this week
07:46 wannabe1987 yeah.  it wants me to pre-set shipping prices
07:47 wannabe1987 how the fuck am i supposed to do that?!
07:47 astro73 look up flat rates for the US?
07:47 wannabe1987 but i'll also ship everywhere.
07:47 wannabe1987 so confusing
07:48 astro73 i think there's articles on it
07:50 * Experimentonomen yawns *
07:52 * einball screams FKCING LOUD :D
07:52 * Experimentonomen wirft eine sperrwandler an einball
07:52 einball "Slide it up to ten and get that fucking rearview shaking then ..." :D
07:52 * einball looks at Experimentonomen
07:53 wannabe1987 what countries are in teh EU?
07:53 einball germany
07:53 einball and ... germany
07:54 Experimentonomen pretty much everything between the UK and japan
07:54 einball Experimentonomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XesfMfS5usY ^^
07:54 BotSteve Title: EEVblog #124 - A Tour of Apex Electronics - YouTube
07:54 wannabe1987 ohno, not another eevblog ! :P
07:54 einball germany franze CZ, aah so many :(
07:54 Experimentonomen i saw that a long time ag
07:54 astro73 lmgtfy
07:54 wannabe1987 .g countries in the european union
07:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm
07:55 einball Experimentonomen: Iam still like http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dBDNzH37_Js/TbcpSgp8jcI/AAAAAAAAAxQ/NLejgUwRqOE/s400/mouth-rainbow.jpg
07:55 wannabe1987 thanks astro, i figured these guys would know, but guess not :P
07:55 einball :D
07:55 Thermoelectric wannabe1987, atleast you're not trying to download all their episodes on 60GB quota... I'm having trouble keeping up.
07:55 BotSteve thermoelectric: I have the following messages for you:
07:55 BotSteve At 17 Apr 16:02Z, Batsteve asked me to ask thermoelectric if he ever figured out his word problem with the aircraft
07:55 wannabe1987 what episodes?
07:55 wannabe1987 dr who?
07:55 Thermoelectric All the EEVblog ones, or whatever they want to call them.
07:55 wannabe1987 oooo
07:56 wannabe1987 why would i download them?
07:56 wannabe1987 i only know of them cuz zozo watches them
07:56 einball I like the EEVBlog, because of his voice
07:57 einball Makes everything he says sound like it would be awesome :D
07:57 wannabe1987 see, i don't like the "priority mail small flat rate box" because its NOT a square box, to go to square i need medium.  our postal service sucks
07:58 einball Yours sucks? Never tried ours, huh?
07:59 astro73 soldering?
07:59 wannabe1987 nope
08:00 wannabe1987 apparently shipping overseas i'd have to use a declaration form for customs....
08:00 astro73 wannabe1987, send the girl a message?
08:00 wannabe1987 true, i can always edit my listing
08:00 astro73 and "soldering" refers to eevblog
08:00 Experimentonomen and when the eevblog sez something is a piece of shit, do not buy that part/instrument
08:00 wannabe1987 exactly
08:01 wannabe1987 his voice is nice to listen to tho :)
08:01 einball I still like his voice ^^
08:01 Thermoelectric wannabe1987, I meant I was downloading them all... Not easy to keep ontop of it when they're throwing out a new video so often.
08:01 astro73 i've mostly seen the videos where he teaches it
08:01 wannabe1987 ah.  yes.  good luck, Thermoelectric
08:02 einball At least it's shorter than the captains blog :)
08:02 wannabe1987 sometimes
08:03 einball I just skip throught the most of the captains blog
08:03 wannabe1987 yeah
08:03 einball have no time to watch it all
08:03 wannabe1987 most of it zozo is there for so he skips the boring bits
08:03 einball would be 1hr per day :)
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08:04 wannabe1987 astro: sent
08:04 wannabe1987 she'll get it in the am, right?
08:05 wannabe1987 my bum hurts
08:05 wannabe1987 too bad i can't exersize here
08:06 wannabe1987 http://www.etsy.com/shop/wannabe1987
08:06 BotSteve Title: wannabe1987 on Etsy
08:06 wannabe1987 look!
08:06 wannabe1987 somethings for sale!
08:06 wannabe1987 :D
08:07 Experimentonomen i made a necklace outta a mp3 player once, pit a piece of litz wire on it ;p
08:08 * einball has a Intel P4 right next to him. He might make something for his keychain out of it
08:08 astro73 wannabe1987, that's pretty cool
08:09 wannabe1987 thanks :D
08:10 wannabe1987 i've got more mini inductors coming, but for now, i have one necklace.  i need more chain
08:10 wannabe1987 I NEED TO GO TO HOBBY LOBBY
08:13 einball A friend wants to open a workspace
08:13 einball public ... hum
08:13 Thermoelectric BotSteve, tell BatSteve No, I've tried it and got the damn answer wrong like three times now. That's a homework question I am not ever attempting again. GAH.
08:13 BotSteve Thermoelectric: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
08:13 Thermoelectric Danke BotSteve
08:15 Thermoelectric BotSteve, tell BatSteve And that was because I was using 450 instead of 480. *twitch*
08:15 BotSteve Thermoelectric: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
08:16 Experimentonomen oh dear god, john bedini that overunity free evergy fag is making amplifiers too now /o\ :/
08:16 einball oh LOL
08:16 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNpayYhBvM his shirt :D
08:16 BotSteve Title: EEVblog #264 - PCB Pick & Place Assembly - YouTube
08:19 wannabe1987 LAG!
08:19 wannabe1987 zomg can't watch the dr w/ this much lag.....
08:19 astro73 fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
08:19 wannabe1987 uh oh
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08:20 astro73 where the hell am i going to find 5 more minutes of material?
08:20 wannabe1987 you tube
08:20 * Experimentonomen looks at astro73
08:23 wannabe1987 fuse earrings anyone?
08:24 * Experimentonomen yawns some more *
08:24 wannabe1987 goodness, Experimentonomen
08:28 wannabe1987 another item listed :D
08:29 * Experimentonomen yawns his head off * must be a low pressure zone :/
08:31 wannabe1987 stop making me yawn!  i have 3and a half more hours of work to go, and then some driving
08:34 wannabe1987 http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
08:36 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
08:36 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
08:36 wannabe1987 .cookie Experimentonomen
08:36 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
08:43 wannabe1987 Electricguy, Experimentonomen, do either of you know what this is?
08:43 wannabe1987 http://imgur.com/pkara,WY6q1
08:43 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
08:43 wannabe1987 and this http://imgur.com/pkara,WY6q1#1
08:43 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
08:46 Experimentonomen second one is a resistor by the looks of it
08:46 Monkeh|Lap An inductor and a resistor
08:46 Monkeh|Lap I think it's an inductor anyway
08:47 wannabe1987 the wires are all very thin, thinner than i'd like them to be....they don't hold shape very well and are not strong
08:48 wannabe1987 the ones on the resistors are great :D
08:48 Monkeh|Lap Why would you like them to be thicker?
08:48 wannabe1987 making jewelry out of them
08:48 Experimentonomen first one is a tiny inductor
08:48 wannabe1987 need them to hold shape
08:48 wannabe1987 i twisted two together, its better at holding shape than one :D
08:49 Monkeh|Lap Oh, and that's a 560R 5% resistor.
08:49 Monkeh|Lap Looks like 1W?
08:49 Experimentonomen Monkeh|Lap, on my screen all three bands are black
08:49 wannabe1987 came in a goldpac from electronic gold mine
08:49 wannabe1987 so idk
08:49 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Your screen sucks more than her camera.
08:50 wannabe1987 green blue black gold
08:50 wannabe1987 brown green black gold
08:50 wannabe1987 red green gold gold
08:50 wannabe1987 :shrug:
08:50 Monkeh|Lap Oh, black? 56R then
08:50 wannabe1987 means nothing to me
08:51 Monkeh|Lap Looked brown
08:51 wannabe1987 i have various ones
08:51 Monkeh|Lap Needs more light.
08:51 wannabe1987 came in a package
08:51 wannabe1987 i know.....
08:51 wannabe1987 my camera is dying
08:51 wannabe1987 and the light is on the ceiling
08:51 wannabe1987 ideally i'd take the photos at the lab....but i'm not there and its not open
08:52 Monkeh|Lap Red green gold gold sounds wrong to me :P
08:53 wannabe1987 why?
08:53 Monkeh|Lap Non-standard
08:54 wannabe1987 ah
08:54 Experimentonomen Monkeh|Lap, when the multiplier is gold, its usually fractional ohms
08:54 wannabe1987 aleins of london!
08:54 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Punch it in and see. :P
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08:55 wannabe1987 btw, good morning monkey
08:55 Monkeh|Lap Morning
08:56 Experimentonomen red green gold gold gives me 2.5 ohms
08:57 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Not E24, which would be unusual in a grab bag.
08:57 Experimentonomen could be leftovers from some customized order
08:58 Monkeh|Lap Possible
08:58 Monkeh|Lap It's rare to see high power resistors in grab bags too, so you may be right.
08:58 Experimentonomen i have 50 watt resistors rated 0.25 ohms, 25 ohms, 5k and 15k
08:59 Experimentonomen and 30 ohms
09:04 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks
09:05 masterofmonks morning wannabe1987
09:05 wannabe1987 guess what?
09:05 masterofmonks What?
09:06 wannabe1987 http://www.etsy.com/shop/wannabe1987  has 2 items listed
09:06 BotSteve Title: wannabe1987 on Etsy
09:07 masterofmonks Interesting, I never would have considered making earrings out of fuses.
09:14 wannabe1987 lol  difference between my mind and yours....
09:15 wannabe1987 sorry, my client had to use the restroom
09:17 masterofmonks no problem, I am getting ready for work.
09:18 Sgt_Lemming wow...
09:19 Sgt_Lemming looking at an aerial shot of Dallas Airport
09:19 Sgt_Lemming it's hooge
09:19 Experimentonomen funny thing with etsy.com, it specifies the price based on the country u live in to give u the right currency
09:21 wannabe1987 cool
09:22 * Monkeh|Lap sents wannabe1987 some HRC fuses
09:24 wannabe1987 ?
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09:25 Experimentonomen HRC =High Rupture Current
09:25 Experimentonomen basically it specifies how high current it takes to make the fuse explode like a bomb
09:26 wannabe1987 whats it look like?
09:26 wannabe1987 i don't care what it does....
09:26 Experimentonomen like a big fat glass fuse but with a paper tube instead of flass
09:26 wannabe1987 what it looks like is best for jewelry making....
09:26 Monkeh|Lap Ceramic, sand-filled, typically.
09:26 wannabe1987 ah
09:27 Monkeh|Lap I can get you some of this size: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/200AIndustrialFuse.jpg
09:27 Monkeh|Lap Trying to find the type I was thinking of
09:28 Monkeh|Lap Eh, can't find a picture
09:28 wannabe1987 yes, because i'm totalyl gonna put that on a necklace....
09:29 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Pffft, I've met people who'd wear earrings of that size.
09:29 wannabe1987 yes, i do too
09:29 wannabe1987 doesn't mean i'll cater to them....:P
09:31 Experimentonomen there are ppl that tow cars with their ears :P
09:32 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Is that what the ones who tow airplanes with their backs do for fun?
09:32 Experimentonomen dunno
09:32 wannabe1987 probably
09:32 Experimentonomen but i've actually seen a video of a guy pulling a cal with the foreskin of his dick :/
09:32 Experimentonomen car*
09:32 Monkeh|Lap I prefer pulling planes with big spinning blades, myself.
09:34 Experimentonomen hm
09:54 Monkeh woo
09:54 Monkeh New element just needs some grinder assaulting and it'll fit
09:54 Experimentonomen *yawn*
09:54 * Monkeh is creating the frankeniron
09:55 Experimentonomen hm
09:55 Monkeh Take one cheap soldering station, attach the shaft from another cheap soldering station, and a cheap 60W element from ebay, and you have a MILDLY BETTER cheap soldering station. :D
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09:57 Experimentonomen lol
09:59 wannabe1987 eh
09:59 wannabe1987 i don't liek taking pills but i dislike this headache more
10:00 Experimentonomen i use to be like that, i dont take pills unless the pain is litterally unbearable and life threatening
10:01 Experimentonomen so when i have headache, i just foto bed and die for a few hours
10:01 wannabe1987 its just annoying....
10:01 wannabe1987 i'm sure my glasses would fix it....but they're dirty and i don't like it....
10:01 Experimentonomen so clean them
10:01 Experimentonomen ;)
10:02 wannabe1987 its not working :(
10:03 Experimentonomen hm
10:04 wannabe1987 i'll clean them with water when i get up
10:04 Experimentonomen i just wipe my glasses on my shirt until theis clean :P
10:05 wannabe1987 normally i do too, but it just smears the smudges around....
10:05 HighMan Mejor Que Nada
10:11 Experimentonomen hm i feel like go gettin something to nom
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10:14 Experimentonomen bbiab
10:14 wannabe1987 kk
10:21 wannabe1987 eh.  starting to get light outside
10:24 * CaptainNiobe is irked at fire alarm in new apartment complex going off yet AGAIN
10:24 wannabe1987 ...
10:25 wannabe1987 someone burning dinner?
10:25 CaptainNiobe don't care if it goes off in mistake once evry 2 month or so... NOT EVERY FREAKING TWO FREAKING WEEKS! *snarls*
10:25 HighMan What is it? xd
10:27 wannabe1987 i'd be snarly too....you gotta go outside for these things?
10:27 CaptainNiobe a fire alarm? might help if you actually read, hy... :P
10:27 CaptainNiobe i don't, no, it's not my building/complex...
10:27 wannabe1987 o ok
10:28 HighMan Oh! XD That sucks
10:28 CaptainNiobe i mean, it's a great system by way it goes all throughot the building and does alert neighbours, but not when it's going off every couple of weeks in false alarms
10:28 HighMan I was once doing band rehersal and fire alarm went off... It sounded like there was a bomb coming. "WARNING WARNING. GO TO NEAREST EXIT."
10:30 CaptainNiobe yeah, they're the more newfangled ones... got one of them at the iga just aroumnd the corner... compared to the building complex the iga's in, my complaints about the apartment building's alarm is rather pale... lol...
10:30 HighMan Call someone to fix it.... Unless there is a fire lol
10:31 CaptainNiobe when the fire alarm was in it's "settling inn" phase wherre the iga is, i swear the bloody thing was going off at least once every 2 days... and most of the time, it was at 2am... *headdesk*
10:32 HighMan :D
10:32 wannabe1987 thats the *best* time!
10:33 CaptainNiobe i'd hear this distant giant voice faintly saying something about an evacuation... i'd be like, "is that...?" then the alarm itself, "yup. bloody hell." :P
10:33 wannabe1987 gives the college kids a break from homework :P
10:33 wannabe1987 nap time
10:33 wannabe1987 bbl
10:33 CaptainNiobe lol... ok wannabe... *hugs* has good dreams
10:34 wannabe1987 need a nap so i can' drive home safely at 8
10:34 CaptainNiobe ahh... okays :)
10:37 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM5ePgdHfAc&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2e68fb2FUAAAAAAAAAA
10:37 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 4-16-12 Incredible Pittsburg Donation - YouTube
10:38 CaptainNiobe does BotSteve not do that? lol
10:39 * CaptainNiobe is going to screamif the big alarm goes off
10:50 Experimentonomen back
10:51 * Experimentonomen gives CaptainNiobe a set of earmuffs
10:52 CaptainNiobe heheh... danke
10:54 Experimentonomen does the alarm go off in the middle of the night ?
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11:15 Experimentonomen g'day dru
11:18 wannabe1987 well
11:18 wannabe1987 i'm tired
11:18 wannabe1987 suns shining
11:18 wannabe1987 now my shift needs to end so i can go sleep
11:19 DruidicSniper how long till it ends
11:20 wannabe1987 it ends at 8
11:20 wannabe1987 so 40min
11:20 Experimentonomen wannabe, do u like ur job ?
11:20 wannabe1987 yep
11:22 wannabe1987 why?
11:22 Experimentonomen ever had a job u hated bad enuf to just neglect to show up ?
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11:23 wannabe1987 no, but i had a job i walked out on in the middle of my shift
11:23 Experimentonomen oki
11:24 wannabe1987 why?
11:25 Experimentonomen just wonderin
11:25 wannabe1987 o ok
11:25 wannabe1987 i need to wrap up my wire now
11:25 wannabe1987 ttul
11:25 wannabe1987 like sometime after i wake up and before i go to the other job....
11:25 Experimentonomen cya
11:29 Sgt_Lemming http://i.imgur.com/bbvR9.jpg <--- anyone see any glaring mistakes there? apart from the lack of holes I mean
11:30 Experimentonomen hard to say without a schematic
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11:34 Thermoelectric Sgt_Lemming, Is that FTDI pinout common? The pinouts I see have 4 as VCC, and you have that tied to RX of the RFID?
11:36 Thermoelectric Oh, that may just be a bad pinout.
11:37 Sgt_Lemming it's normally, GND 3.3 5 RX TX RST
11:37 Thermoelectric Ah, okay. Looks pretty good then!
11:38 Monkeh Hmm.
11:38 Monkeh Iron works but that's a lot of smoke.
11:39 Experimentonomen thats just dirt and grime burning off
11:39 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, https://5564666060909944675-a-hsbne-org-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/hsbne.org/publicwww/projects/SNARC/Tool%20Lockout%20v1.1.fzz%20-%20Fritzing%20-%20%5BSchematic%20View%5D%20210312%20233226.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7co1uCi7HGuQiWNk_omkMCCgmw40AZDHGQgnzvmcPoOKaiQHeSRG0VTf9D3HtA4-okeIm-eevWrLcyjlHhNHhf_eP6zZabE5AR4SfaTUHtdvlKv09IfKjqeov-H_cbtQioBZQeGVxYQqZoR9yNhyFuYRGJGtmeMOQ1euwP6SUcL-SXynS7_p5f27
11:39 Thermoelectric K2s_dveX1nNukNPS6gd3HysqIsLwhGi2__jPGECsBOPF_FjDJUMl7-tNHx9dB6FQpj2RBinoU-grODhfglXr-Wa35zpRdi54XCec5cMTZxECiLK3rT8ofRw5JQLhwPqzciO4AOpGEzBnqkt9&attredirects=0 <-- That's the schematic for Lemming's thing.
11:40 Sgt_Lemming lol
11:40 Sgt_Lemming it needs to be updated
11:40 Experimentonomen holy shit thermo thats a long link! :o
11:40 Sgt_Lemming and google apps links suck
11:40 Thermoelectric Okay, maybe not. Just go to http://hsbne.org/snarc and hit the image, assumng that is still relevant.
11:40 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Yeah I know, but I might be melting some insulation too.
11:40 BotSteve Title: hsbne.org
11:40 Sgt_Lemming Thermoelectric, fail again
11:40 Thermoelectric Well boo, I give up.
11:40 Sgt_Lemming http://hsbne.org/projects/SNARC <--- Experimentonomen
11:41 BotSteve Title: hsbne.org
11:41 Sgt_Lemming the schematic there is 99% correct
11:41 Thermoelectric Pfft. You and your case sensitive links.
11:41 Thermoelectric And my incorrect links, haha.
11:41 Sgt_Lemming this one has two extra ADC pins, and also has some other minor changes.
11:41 lwq_laptop \nick lwq-school
11:41 Experimentonomen well i couldent even point out the most obvious errors on that board since i barely even know what a microcontroller is
11:42 Monkeh Experimentonomen: n00b. :P
11:42 lwq_laptop fuck!
11:42 lwq-school there we go
11:42 lwq-school i better be off
11:43 Monkeh Experimentonomen: So, now I've done my controlled iron, should I change the element in my 30W spare for a 50W tip burner?
11:43 Experimentonomen Monkeh, im analog so sue me :P
11:43 Experimentonomen hm
11:44 Monkeh That 50W will overheat a tip in really short order, though
11:45 Experimentonomen why are you tieing a buncha soldering irons together to begin with ?
11:45 Monkeh .. I'm not
11:45 Monkeh I just replaced the shaft and element in one so I could fit a different tip
11:45 Experimentonomen sure sounded like u were
11:45 Monkeh Now I have a 50W element spare
11:46 Experimentonomen put tin in it and use it as a solder pot ;)
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12:11 Monkeh Wow.
12:11 Monkeh That's a hell of a power bump actually.
12:11 Monkeh I've gone from just over 40W to 65W.
12:11 Monkeh No wonder it wants to smoke
12:29 Electricguy my FM transmitter got a new home now :)
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12:32 Electricguy LOL! http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318183_433400983353776_264986813528528_1729170_479938515_n.jpg
12:33 Experimentonomen O_o
12:33 Electricguy XD http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529817_193890687396847_104084839710766_307962_327119742_n.jpg
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12:47 transistorbaluba Hello people!
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12:48 transistorbaluba any one?
12:49 DruidicSniper hey bit viper
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12:58 Sgt_Lemming transistorbaluba, IRC == Internet Relay Chat, not Instant Reply to Comments
12:58 Sgt_Lemming just because people are logged in, does not mean they are at the keyboard, or even in the same city/state/country sometimes!
12:59 Electricguy what he said ^
12:59 DamianZ <3 irssi
12:59 Electricguy yeah irssi is awesome :)
13:00 Electricguy but i use X-chat 2 for everyday use
13:00 Electricguy irssi on my old machines
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13:09 mashpriborintorg hiya
13:09 Electricguy hey hey mash :)
13:10 mashpriborintorg well that Sparkfun dangershield needed some debugging
13:10 Electricguy oh, darn
13:10 mashpriborintorg they omitted the pull-up resistors on the buttons, bad
13:10 Electricguy huh
13:10 Electricguy yeah
13:10 mashpriborintorg and the sample code was all wrong
13:11 mashpriborintorg I still have an issue with the 7 segment driver, doing random things
13:11 mashpriborintorg maybe a pinout problem with the pcb vs the code, I'll figure it out
13:12 mashpriborintorg everything else including the capacitive switch is now working tho
13:17 Sgt_Lemming buttons an arduino can use internal pullups
13:17 Sgt_Lemming on*
13:17 Sgt_Lemming it's why my board has no pullups
13:17 Sgt_Lemming they don't need it
13:18 mashpriborintorg I prefer hardware pullups :p
13:18 Sgt_Lemming they are hardware pullups
13:19 Sgt_Lemming there are resistors on the chip
13:19 mashpriborintorg is there some specific code to activate them ?
13:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah, write the pin high
13:20 Sgt_Lemming set pin mode as input, then do "DigitalWrite Pin High" basically
13:21 mashpriborintorg ok thanks, I'll test it
13:21 Sgt_Lemming if the pin is an input, and you write it high, it activates the internal pullup resistors
13:23 mashpriborintorg so many things to learn... I'm still at the step where I bend the sample codes to fit my needs
13:24 Sgt_Lemming Mash, read the bit on this page about pullups http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/DigitalPins
13:24 BotSteve Title: Arduino - DigitalPins
13:25 Electricguy gotta be cheap! XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsfbSITLS3o
13:25 BotSteve Title: New Weller WX 2 Soldering Station_english - YouTube
13:25 Electricguy Wellers new station
13:26 mashpriborintorg for now, I'm replacing caps on a vintage led display digital multimeter
13:26 mashpriborintorg tantalium caps are damn expensive :(
13:26 Electricguy yeah
13:26 Electricguy but good
13:26 Electricguy and flammable if overvolted... :P
13:27 mashpriborintorg not too good anymore after 25 years :p
13:27 Electricguy lol. true :P
13:28 mashpriborintorg I'll keep the old caps for popping them
13:28 Electricguy good idea :P
13:28 Electricguy youtube!! :D
13:28 mashpriborintorg there are already dozens of such vids
13:29 Electricguy why not make one more? :P
13:30 Sgt_Lemming I have some BIG caps I am considering popping
13:31 Electricguy nice
13:32 Electricguy as long as they don't have any safety vents it's great fun :D
13:32 Electricguy big axial caps are fun! they give a damn loud pop :P
13:32 Sgt_Lemming these do, but I'll just superglue it :-P
13:34 Electricguy yeyy :D
13:37 Hackbat the whether here is sooo gloomy
13:38 NeWtoz I hear someone is going to bust a cap
13:38 * NeWtoz notifies the police
13:38 Electricguy easiest way to do it is to get a big AC transformer :P
13:38 Electricguy AC is VERY effective when it comes to cap popping :P
13:39 Electricguy i had a dedicated PSU for that once.. LOL
13:39 Seroster^Away Fuck yeah
13:39 Electricguy a big AC trafo and a contactor with a remote switch to turn it on/off. lol :P
13:39 Seroster A guy that I hardly know at all talked to me in the store, "You want a computer? It's 14 days old and already trash...."
13:40 Seroster He didnt know what was wrong with it, just that it is borked, it's a 5500sek laptop =)
13:40 Electricguy lol
13:40 Seroster He couldnt get it replaced either, so it's a user error.
13:41 Electricguy ahh ok
13:41 Electricguy so you got a free lappy? XD
13:41 Electricguy nice :)
13:41 Seroster But that means it got a perfect adapter, a perfect mousepad, good keyboard, fresh screen, good hdd, cpu, fans, ram, battery....
13:42 Electricguy o rly!?
13:42 Electricguy XD
13:42 Seroster He supplies me with goodies every now and then, all because I changed the cord on his microwave xD
13:43 Electricguy LOL :P
13:43 Electricguy thats always nice :P
13:43 Seroster ...With a cord that I found in a dumpster xD
13:44 Hackbat Slightly less deadly than the one thats was on it! :D
13:44 Seroster His wife dropped a chef's knife on the old cord.
13:44 Seroster ZAT.
13:45 mashpriborintorg dangerous wife :p
13:45 Hackbat ouch
13:46 Seroster Ever dumped a few kiloamps at 240volts into a thin blade?
13:46 Hackbat kapow?
13:46 Seroster Ya, made a nice dent in the knife too
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14:13 Electricguy LOL! http://www.damnlol.com/i/cbde9c8d1cf1b8d86fb01fd998685fc4.jpg
14:25 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/WAKXx
14:25 BotSteve Title: This makes it very hard to concentrate... - Imgur
14:31 Electricguy LOL!
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14:52 astro73|roam my mad public speaking skills saved my ass
14:52 mashpriborintorg wow what happened
14:53 Electricguy i want a powermac G5 case...
14:53 DamianZ Public speaking skills; 'And now xx will tell you about it'
14:53 Electricguy would be awesome to casemod it and make a hackintosh or a server in it
14:53 astro73|roam i was up until 5am trying to do a video presentation, get only the first half done, and ended up winging the second half live
14:54 DamianZ A G5 would make an awesome home server with a touchscreen running some jukebox/web app.
14:54 astro73|roam touchscreens make for awesome apps
14:58 astro73|roam i have an old one out of some medical equipment i need to do software for
14:58 * Experimentonomen noms a twix
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15:01 Experimentonomen *yawn*
15:02 * CaptainNiobe yawns louder than Experimentonomen
15:02 * Experimentonomen is more tired than anyone in this channel can ever dream of
15:02 Electricguy then go to bed. no one is going to stop you
15:03 * CaptainNiobe stops Electricguy from stopping Experimentonomen from going to bed
15:03 CaptainNiobe sorry... just in that mood...
15:04 Electricguy >_>
15:04 Electricguy :P
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15:16 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, i believe its the weather thats makin me really tired
15:16 Experimentonomen it was pring and sunny, then the next day back to winter
15:16 CaptainNiobe oh?
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15:37 Electricguy one of my 40mm DELTA fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBkxSw7K92Y
15:37 BotSteve Title: 40mm DELTA fan - YouTube
15:38 Sgt_Lemming the server 2 feet to my right has 10 of those in it Electricguy
15:38 Electricguy lol
15:38 Electricguy who the F want 1U servers at home!? XD
15:38 Sgt_Lemming yes, it's LOUD
15:39 Sgt_Lemming I don't want it here
15:39 Electricguy then why do you? :P
15:39 Sgt_Lemming just building it atm, so it's here because it's easier to do here than where it will be hosted
15:39 Electricguy ahh okey
15:47 mashpriborintorg hmmm Electricguy, I'm having again the arduino upload problem
15:47 Electricguy hmmm okey
15:47 Sgt_Lemming what's the problem mash?
15:47 Electricguy have you selected the right COM port?
15:48 Electricguy port number 3 use to solve my problems for some reason..
15:48 Electricguy 7 and 3 always works..
15:48 Electricguy don't know why
15:48 mashpriborintorg yeah, the Rx led flashes but to the tx led
15:48 Sgt_Lemming mashpriborintorg, official arduino or a clone of some description?
15:48 mashpriborintorg and I get avrdude errors, it was working fine just before
15:48 mashpriborintorg very good uno clone
15:49 Sgt_Lemming and are you using pins 0 or 1?
15:49 mashpriborintorg not currently, shield off
15:49 Sgt_Lemming right board selected in IDE?
15:49 Sgt_Lemming got a link to the board you are using?
15:49 mashpriborintorg yeah it'"s correctly selected
15:50 mashpriborintorg one from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=120864305922&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
15:50 BotSteve Title: New Arduino UNO (2011 version) ATMEGA328P-PU/ATMEGA8U2 With free USB Cable en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 01-mars-12 22:28:14 Paris)
15:51 Sgt_Lemming is it identical to those pics?
15:51 Sgt_Lemming mainly the chip behind the USB connector
15:51 mashpriborintorg yes
15:51 Electricguy does it say AVRdude not in sync? or similar
15:52 mashpriborintorg avrdude: stk500_getsync(): not in sync: resp=0x00
15:52 mashpriborintorg avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x51
15:52 Electricguy yeh
15:52 Electricguy then it can't talk to the CPU
15:52 Electricguy try changing the port number
15:52 Electricguy always use to help for me
15:52 Sgt_Lemming yeah, you need to make sure you have the right board and the right com port selected
15:52 Electricguy gotta be some sort of bug
15:53 mashpriborintorg it the receive data led flashes ok...
15:53 Electricguy change to port number 3 or 7
15:53 Sgt_Lemming receive data flashes when there is electrical activity, NOT valid data
15:53 Electricguy yes it flashes cause the computer tries to talk to the CPU
15:53 Electricguy but it's not listening case it fucks up for some reason
15:53 Electricguy i have had that problem MANY times... pretty annoying
15:53 Electricguy changing port number always helps
15:54 mashpriborintorg hmmm my com 3 and 7 are busy it says
15:54 Electricguy yeah
15:54 Sgt_Lemming unplug/replug the board
15:54 Electricguy select them anyway
15:54 Electricguy it's because the arduino have used them before
15:56 mashpriborintorg no change, I'll shut off everything
15:56 Electricguy and remember to restart the software after changing the port number
15:59 Sgt_Lemming you shouldn't need to do that Electricguy, I never have
16:00 Electricguy i do
16:00 Sgt_Lemming and I've programmed a lot more arduinos than most
16:00 Sgt_Lemming including a project involving 30 of them
16:00 Electricguy cause the software don't find the new port number otherwise
16:00 Sgt_Lemming err, where are you changing the port number?
16:01 Sgt_Lemming unplugging and replugging the same board doesn't generate a new port number, you *can* change the port number in windows, but why would you?
16:01 Electricguy in the windows utility for COM ports
16:01 Sgt_Lemming yeah, no
16:01 Sgt_Lemming just change the selected port in the arduino software
16:01 Sgt_Lemming it works fine
16:01 Sgt_Lemming I have never had a problem doing that
16:01 Electricguy oki
16:02 Electricguy didn't even know that was possible
16:10 mashpriborintorg ok, let me have a pizza and try the shit with a other computer
16:11 Sgt_Lemming yay, just got rid of TWO via's from my board and cleaned out a bunch of ground islands
16:14 Sgt_Lemming and another one gone
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16:26 Experimentonomen g'evenin miss lisa
16:28 Electricguy HHRLISA!
16:29 Electricguy HEY! :D
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16:31 hhrlisa HI
16:31 hhrlisa im so tired lol
16:32 Experimentonomen me too
16:33 angy .cookie hhrlisa
16:33 BotSteve Here you go, hhrlisa, I baked you a molasses cookie!
16:33 hhrlisa thanks angy!
16:33 * Experimentonomen is eatin candy :P
16:34 hhrlisa ok im gonna go take a nap. lol
16:47 Electricguy ok, who the fuck is griefing on cprossu's MC server!?
16:47 Electricguy someone have stolen my bed...
16:49 mashpriborintorg I retried, and retried, and it finally worked again
16:49 mashpriborintorg weird
16:50 Experimentonomen Electricguy, apart from Cprossu himself, i have never seen anyone else online when i have been there
16:51 Electricguy i have seen one more player on there before
16:53 Experimentonomen oki
16:53 CaptainNiobe maybe Cprossu needs a vanilla server + protection mods :D
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16:54 Experimentonomen Cprossu's server is totally legit vannilla, no mods
16:54 egrsteve why is vending machine caffeine so expensive
16:55 * egrsteve wants soda but does not want ot pay that much
16:55 Experimentonomen what 5 cents ?
16:55 CaptainNiobe after all the griefing vids i've seen, vanilla servers do need mods that protect... my personal opinion is, that's still vanilla, but with added protection
16:56 Experimentonomen worldguard
16:56 newguy hey everyone
16:56 Experimentonomen log block to tell whoi did what and when
16:56 CaptainNiobe hey newguy
16:56 newguy hey captain
16:57 CaptainNiobe oh, don't call me captain, might get confused with oden, who uses the nick CaptainBoden :D
16:57 CaptainNiobe boden*
16:57 newguy alright:)
16:58 Experimentonomen Niobeofmonks ;)
16:58 CaptainNiobe trust me... experiance... i got mistaken for chris god knows how many times... :P
16:58 egrsteve what, where is chris?
16:58 * egrsteve hides
16:58 newguy he is in lab , not sure where he is
16:58 CaptainNiobe not a female in australia, that's for sure :P
16:59 * egrsteve wonders if it's safe to stop hiding
16:59 newguy you in the basement?
17:00 egrsteve no
17:00 angy .cookie egrsteve
17:00 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
17:00 ImBodenNOT if chris was on right now, he'd flatten me... lol...
17:00 egrsteve mmm cookie, as usual I'm still hungry
17:00 angy I'll got you lots of cookie next time I'll be there
17:01 egrsteve sounds good
17:02 CaptainNiobe so, newguy, what are you into? what's your geekness?
17:03 BitViper egrsteve : its the usa, you cant hide, the gov is everywhere
17:09 egrsteve no, that's the UK and there CCTV
17:10 Experimentonomen in the uk u cannot even use your own shitter without having cctv cameras in ur face
17:12 egrsteve ok, time(ish) for class
17:12 angy good evening!
17:12 egrsteve good mornimg!
17:12 angy don't forget to bring cookies!
17:12 angy and a few exclamation marks
17:12 angy there: !!!!!
17:13 egrsteve !!!!!!!!!!!! (from a more elegant age)
17:13 egrsteve http://xkcd.com/297/
17:13 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Lisp Cycles
17:13 angy that's a fair amount
17:21 wannabe-afk i feel like crap and donot wat to go in to work
17:21 angy .cookie wannabe-afk
17:21 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe-afk, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
17:22 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell yNos payment has arrived, just waiting for it to transfer to my bank now
17:22 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
17:23 Experimentonomen geez Cprossu's server is laggy today, i can jump from sky limit to bedrock, then take a lava bath and continue exploring for 20 mintes before i even begin to take damage
17:28 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA
17:28 BotSteve Title: Just Glue Some Gears On It (And Call It Steampunk) - YouTube
17:30 egrsteve yay review day!
17:30 egrsteve :(
17:30 Sgt_Lemming ...?
17:31 egrsteve class review day/ peoples Qs
17:36 wannabe-afk gah
17:36 wannabe-afk gonna be late for work.  why do i still have this job during the week?!
17:38 wannabe-afk i've already worked 37 hours this week...
17:38 wannabe-afk .c 37+8+16
17:38 BotSteve 61
17:38 wannabe-afk gah
17:38 wannabe-afk i don't like that number
17:38 wannabe-afk .c 37+16+16
17:38 BotSteve 69
17:38 wannabe-afk thats even worse
17:38 wannabe-afk ok....i'll take wednesdays off my schedule if i can
17:39 wannabe-afk .seen debit_card
17:39 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen debit_card around.
17:39 wannabe-afk me either.  and it sucks
17:39 wannabe-afk I NEED IT
17:39 wannabe-afk hey look
17:39 wannabe-afk i found it
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17:48 Nekoroms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGC-_o6QteU
17:48 BotSteve Title: Airsoft GI - Left 4 Dead - Impulse 76 Fan Film - YouTube
17:48 Nekoroms have you seen this
17:48 Nekoroms its awesome what fanfilms have evolved to
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17:49 wannabe-afk great
17:49 wannabe-afk late again
17:49 wannabe-afk bye!
17:51 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
17:53 * Experimentonomen looks @ egrsteve
17:54 * egrsteve lurks
17:57 egrsteve lk
17:59 egrsteve and i killed chat
18:02 Nekoroms cat you killed
18:05 Nekoroms egrsteve: i didnt get to start up any conversation
18:05 mashpriborintorg egrsteve, the nerf video is out
18:06 Nekoroms ir i killed the chat cause everyone is watchin that minimovie
18:06 Nekoroms mashpriborintorg: thanks for the heads up
18:06 Nekoroms mashpriborintorg: need to watch that also
18:08 egrsteve great another video of me /sarcasm
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18:09 Nekoroms tgg needs a airsoft department :)
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18:10 Nekoroms nice http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/07/heaven.png
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18:24 astro73|roam .g jonathan coulton nemeses
18:24 BotSteve astro73|roam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2eEICejB0
18:24 Sgt_Lemming watching latest episode of mythbusters... Tori has a really REALLY creepy beard
18:25 Sgt_Lemming it makes him look... homeless
18:25 astro73|roam lol good job tori
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18:25 astro73|roam remember when they were just interns? now they have their own shop
18:27 astro73|roam "100% Recycled Paper / Up to 50% Post-consumer"
18:27 astro73|roam wtf?
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18:29 reesk92 has the labs opened yet
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18:32 SparkyProjects There are people at the lab reesk
18:33 reesk92 there not doing much are they
18:34 reesk92 you know what i am really mising
18:34 reesk92 viewer mail
18:34 reesk92 it seems it fades in and out
18:34 reesk92 first the flags were all the rage then died out then it was ping pong balls then tools
18:35 reesk92 id be happy with just seeing the viewer mail on days where nothing happened
18:37 Electricguy eyy iphone lovers! should the screen of a not even 1 week old 4s look like this!? :D http://i.imgur.com/866KM.jpg
18:37 astro73|roam maybe he should start a different channel for viewer mail
18:37 Electricguy piece of shit phone..
18:37 Monkeh Cprossu: Well, I found and bought a GPU on fleabay
18:38 astro73|roam Electricguy: i'm confused... what is the screen trying to display?
18:38 Monkeh Cprossu: None of your picks quite suited :P But I found an NVS 285. Perrrrrfect.
18:38 Electricguy astro, that's the screen during a software update. however, the white dots and surrounding shit, the lines and all junk is always there...
18:41 astro73|roam a presentation and two exams are difficult on 2 hours of sleep
18:41 Electricguy yepp
18:41 Electricguy dang! egrsteve you are nervous at the end here! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKv6fgYyeq8&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2434864FUAAAAAAADAA
18:41 BotSteve Title: Nerf Nite Finder Mod with Steve - YouTube
18:42 Electricguy damn awesome mod if you ask me!
18:42 Electricguy i love modding toys and stuff :D
18:42 Chipguy hey all
18:42 Chipguy hey Electricguy
18:42 Electricguy hey Chipguy :D
18:43 Electricguy Chipguy, my FM transmitter got a new box today :)
18:43 Chipguy cool pix ?
18:43 Electricguy the only thing that doesn't look like the original sennheiser box is the BNC jack on the side and the 6.3mm jack on the back
18:43 Electricguy nah.. forgot to take picks of the inside :/
18:43 Chipguy haha
18:44 Chipguy awwww
18:44 Chipguy then from the outside
18:44 Electricguy and it's a nightmare putting it together/taking it apart
18:44 Chipguy outside is fine
18:44 Electricguy not much to see from the outside really.. look at some picks for the sennheiser EM1008! ;)
18:44 Electricguy for the lazy ones: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sennheiser_mikroport_empfaenger_em_1_2.html
18:45 BotSteve Title: Mikroport-Empfänger EM 1008 Receiver-C Sennheiser Electronic
18:45 Chipguy lol
18:45 Electricguy :P
18:45 Chipguy ahh
18:45 Chipguy good only stuff
18:46 Electricguy the channel buttons are used to select if i want to skip the freq up or down
18:46 Chipguy btw Electricguy my boss told me today that i gotta do a 19 inch based project
18:46 Electricguy and then i hold down the battery test button to change freq
18:46 Electricguy OOOH! :D
18:46 Electricguy <3 19" :D
18:46 Chipguy with pneumatics stuff and that
18:46 Chipguy lots of valves etc
18:46 Chipguy :)
18:46 Chipguy it will be at least 4 units high
18:46 Chipguy maybe 4
18:46 Chipguy maybe 5
18:46 Chipguy lol
18:46 Electricguy cool :P
18:46 Chipguy wrong key
18:47 Chipguy dunno if we are going to control it from a normal PC
18:47 Electricguy okey! :)
18:47 Chipguy maybe i get the chance for another Mini ITX board
18:48 Electricguy nice :)
18:48 Electricguy btw, i have found a powermac G5 case for cheap :P
18:48 Electricguy going to casemod it into ATX standard
18:50 Electricguy damn nice looking case!
18:51 Electricguy very industrial looking http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Power_Mac_G5_hero_left.jpg/450px-Power_Mac_G5_hero_left.jpg
18:51 Chipguy oki
18:51 Electricguy they are very cheap second hand cause they are rather useless without working hardware :P
18:51 Electricguy i may attempt to make a hackintosh :P
18:51 Chipguy yeah
18:51 Chipguy caseintosh
18:51 Electricguy :P
18:51 Chipguy btw i was still working on my retro calibrator until today
18:52 Chipguy some last second improvements
18:52 Electricguy the case i can buy even got the protective plastic left on some parts :P
18:52 Electricguy oh nice :)
18:52 Chipguy goof
18:52 Chipguy good
18:52 Experimentonomen crapintosh ?
18:52 Chipguy lol
18:52 Electricguy heh
18:52 Chipguy crapple crapintosh huh
18:52 Electricguy the powermac G5's seem to die pretty fast
18:52 Experimentonomen hm
18:53 Chipguy yeah
18:53 Electricguy there are loads of G5 casemods on the net
18:53 Chipguy oki
18:53 Chipguy so it seems not to be impossible
18:53 Experimentonomen crappy caps on the mobo or just crap cooling
18:53 Electricguy yeah
18:53 Electricguy not the cooling though
18:53 Electricguy that damn computer got 9 big ass fans in stock config!
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18:53 Electricguy gotta be shitty quality hardware
18:53 Chipguy Electricguy i changed the button switches on that design
18:54 Electricguy oki :P
18:54 injektion I've had enough of working in a chemical factory
18:55 Chipguy Electricguy: http://de.farnell.com/omron-electronic-components/b3w-9000-r1n/switch-illuminated-pcb-red/dp/1573158?ref=lookahead
18:55 BotSteve Title: B3W-9000-R1N - OMRON ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS - SWITCH, ILLUMINATED, PCB, RED | Farnell Deutschland
18:55 Electricguy oh nice :P
18:55 Electricguy illuminated ones too :D
18:55 Chipguy sure
18:55 Chipguy the LED on the other was quite a bit inside
18:55 Chipguy and only visible if you looked directly on to it
18:55 Chipguy not from the side
18:55 mashpriborintorg it's the model they use onto briadcast equipments
18:55 Electricguy ahh okey
18:56 Chipguy like a LED in a tube lol
18:56 mashpriborintorg as big vcrs
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18:56 Chipguy oh
18:56 Chipguy they are also dust proof
18:56 Electricguy nice looking G5 casemod http://www3.telus.net/quickeagle/G5newback1.gif
18:56 Chipguy means encapsulated
18:56 Chipguy looks cool
18:57 Electricguy yes
18:57 Chipguy i wonder how it looked before the mod
18:57 Electricguy luckily, the case is VERY square. so it's super easy to mod into a ATX case :P
18:57 Electricguy http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3394961557_dcbab731c2.jpg
18:57 Electricguy like that
18:57 Chipguy the fan looks kinda dangerous
18:57 Electricguy lol.. you can stop these regular PC fans with a finger :P
18:58 Chipguy after they cut the finger in half ?
18:58 Chipguy :P
18:58 Chipguy well thats quite a difference
18:58 Chipguy where is the new backplate coming from ?
18:58 Electricguy no idea
18:59 Electricguy you can buy backplates XD
18:59 Chipguy ok
18:59 Chipguy ahh
18:59 Chipguy good
18:59 Electricguy i happen to have one from a case which had the backplate and mobo plate put in with ball rivvets
18:59 Chipguy i was wondering if you need to make it on your own
18:59 Electricguy so i just ripped it out :P
19:00 Electricguy or you can just cut out the back of an old case ou got laying around
19:01 Chipguy ah
19:01 Chipguy good idea actually
19:01 Chipguy you would need to paint it to match the color tho
19:02 Electricguy yeah
19:02 Electricguy just silver
19:02 Electricguy or ignore the back of the case... :P
19:02 Chipguy hmmm
19:02 Chipguy nah
19:02 Electricguy as it's going to point against the wall :)
19:02 Chipguy would be a frankenstein mac
19:02 Electricguy frankenmac! :D
19:03 Chipguy hahhaa
19:03 Chipguy crapple frankenmac
19:03 Chipguy lol
19:03 Electricguy well.. it's going to be anyways.. cause there isn't going to be any mac HW left
19:03 Electricguy possibly the PSU. but that's all
19:03 Chipguy PSU ?
19:03 Experimentonomen is a mac psu actually atx compatible ? :o
19:03 Chipguy same question here
19:04 Electricguy no idea yet :P
19:04 Chipguy mkay
19:04 Electricguy if it's not possible to convert the PSU to ATX standard i'm going to pull the guts out and only use the AC jack
19:05 Chipguy yeah good
19:06 astro73|roam Experimentonomen: which mac?
19:06 astro73|roam some macs used ATX PSUs
19:06 Electricguy G5
19:06 Experimentonomen scroll up, astro
19:06 astro73|roam sorry
19:06 Electricguy powermac
19:07 newguy hey astro
19:07 Electricguy the G5 is damn popular to casemod.. :P
19:07 Experimentonomen hmm i kinda feel like puttin the pchannel amp into that high end lookin case with the remote control volume and input sel cuz it sounded way better than expected
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19:11 Electricguy the G5 PSU looks very similar to ATX. at least one connector http://www.ohmac.co.uk/catalogue/images/uploads/661-2903.gif
19:11 Monkeh G5 didn't use an ATX PSU.
19:11 Electricguy no shit sherlock
19:11 Monkeh Just because it uses a variant of the Minifit Jr. doesn't mean it's magically ATX.
19:12 Experimentonomen btw Electricguy, last time i heard sound from my zap sr500, it sounded weird, like digital artifacts and stuff
19:12 Electricguy oh you don't say?! :O
19:12 Electricguy did not notice that at all
19:12 Electricguy Experimentonomen, strange
19:12 Electricguy i have never had such a problem
19:12 Electricguy not yet at least
19:12 Monkeh Electricguy: Sorry, partial readback while eating.
19:13 Experimentonomen and the lcd backlight died too, i verified that with a resistor and a wallwart
19:13 Electricguy i kinda know it's not ATX standard.. it's a DAMN MAC!!
19:13 Electricguy XD
19:13 Monkeh Electricguy: I.. think you can use it to power an ATX machine.
19:13 Monkeh Obviously it needs a new connector and some thorough rewiring
19:13 Electricguy yeah the voltages should be the same
19:13 Monkeh Not quite
19:13 Electricguy it's just wrong connectors
19:13 Monkeh It has a +25V supply
19:13 Electricguy o_O
19:13 Experimentonomen the power management ic still turns voltages on/off in response to the power button though
19:14 Monkeh For IEE1394, iirc.
19:14 Electricguy IE. firewire?
19:14 Monkeh That's one name yes
19:14 Electricguy i have never ever used firewire. lol :P
19:15 Electricguy otherwise the voltages are standard
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19:15 Electricguy so some cutting wires and soldering on some from a scrapped ATX PSU and it should be good to go
19:15 Electricguy if it got the same power on function
19:15 Monkeh Probably has
19:15 Experimentonomen too bad i dont have a mini hdmi to hdmi adaptor, this thing might satill be alive, unless the reflow attemt gave the final blow to the main processor
19:16 Monkeh Just check to see if it's got an appropriate PWR_GOOD line.
19:16 Electricguy Experimentonomen, didn't you get a HDMI cable with the unit?
19:16 Electricguy i did...
19:22 Chipguy ok gonna paint the doorframe for kitty studio
19:22 Chipguy bbl
19:23 Electricguy oki
19:35 astro73|roam note to self: get myself an excercise ball for sitting
19:35 Electricguy lol
19:36 astro73|roam in this case, i'm using it to stay awake
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19:37 astro73|roam wannabe-work: how is the day job?
19:40 mashpriborintorg going to sleep, bye
19:43 Chipguy hey wannabe-work
19:43 Chipguy Electricguy: back, painting went quicker than expected lol
19:43 egrsteve wannabe is here
19:44 egrsteve I can metiontion wannabe needlessly now
19:44 egrsteve has wannabe seen the orbitron yet?
19:44 Electricguy lol :P
19:45 wannabe-work astro73|roam: sleep inducing
19:45 wannabe-work egrsteve: no....wannabe slept and then was late for work today....will see it tomorrow
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19:47 Electricguy laggy damn server...
19:47 wannabe-work i'm so tired
19:47 egrsteve yay direct memory access
19:47 Electricguy lol
19:47 egrsteve (I'm tired and hungry too)
19:47 Electricguy yeah.. no one liked my "so long shitlords"... XD
19:47 wannabe-work i wrote a status about working 61hours and my housemate commented $$$$! and dad liked it, i do to, but not at the cost of sleep, sanity, health, etc
19:48 wannabe-work Electricguy:  i wanted to say "i'm a timelord!  not a shitlord!"
19:48 wannabe-work and hi Chipguy
19:48 Electricguy lol :P
19:48 Chipguy awww paw wannabe-work
19:49 astro73|roam wannabe-work: i'm sorry. at least i know after today, i get to sleep
19:49 wannabe-work i get to sleep too....
19:49 astro73|roam just have to survive my night class first
19:49 wannabe-work during the dark!
19:50 astro73|roam nowai
19:50 wannabe-work but monday night i couldn't fall asleep till 4....
19:50 astro73|roam :(
19:50 wannabe-work i think i'm screwed up :/
19:50 astro73|roam you think?
19:50 astro73|roam sleep schedules don't like being jerked around
19:50 wannabe-work no shit
19:50 astro73|roam could see if any of those herbal sleep aids help
19:50 wannabe-work but i sleep at night from tonight till monday i think
19:50 astro73|roam !!!
19:50 astro73|roam wow
19:51 wannabe-work good job astro!
19:51 wannabe-work what a good boyfriend....:P
19:51 astro73|roam chinese?
19:52 astro73|roam i have my moments
19:52 wannabe-work yes!!!!!
19:55 Experimentonomen my zap sr500 is ALIVE!!! it sounds horrible but its alive!!
19:55 wannabe-work yay breakfast of mac'n'cheese.....
19:56 wannabe-work is it can be has nap time now?
19:56 astro73|roam plz?
19:56 astro73|roam i would adore that
19:57 wannabe-work sleep gets me through life/work
19:57 wannabe-work i have two difficult showers tonight.
19:57 wannabe-work and one of our aides shouldn't be working
19:57 wannabe-work she can't lift
19:57 wannabe-work so why is she here
19:58 * Electricguy imagines Experimentonomen really giving the player support like " COME ON!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!" :D
20:00 wannabe-work dick clark died
20:00 wannabe-work heart attack at age 82
20:01 wannabe-work time to go back to the old people in 4 mine
20:01 egrsteve well, there goes new years eve, now it's going to be just another night of crappy programing
20:01 wannabe-work minutes*
20:01 wannabe-work wasn't that what it was anyway?
20:01 egrsteve (the above does not imply new years programing to not be crappy as well)
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20:02 astro73|roam new years is much more fun without television
20:02 astro73|roam turn it on for the ball drop
20:02 astro73|roam wait....
20:02 astro73|roam why doesn't the geek group actually drop a ball?
20:02 astro73|roam and have it smash on the floor
20:02 egrsteve we need a basket ball and liquid nitrogen
20:03 egrsteve science, destruction and partying
20:03 astro73|roam sounds like an excellent plan
20:03 astro73|roam can it include LEDs?
20:03 egrsteve will they work that cold?
20:03 astro73|roam you're the electronics guy; you tell me
20:04 egrsteve well more so the batteries
20:04 * Electricguy want his powermac G5 case now
20:05 wannabe-work i don't care
20:05 wannabe-work i'm going back to work
20:05 wannabe-work GR drops a ball tho...
20:06 astro73|roam LN2 makes it way more awesome
20:08 egrsteve we need to light it on fire as well
20:08 astro73|roam .... how do you do it?
20:08 egrsteve soak in LN2, dip in alchoal light and drop
20:10 egrsteve it will work as long as the alcohol doesn't freeze too much/ the ball thaw too much
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20:11 Electricguy egrsteve, nice work on the nerf gun :)
20:11 egrsteve or we could use napalm
20:11 egrsteve yes, thats how you mod a gun
20:11 Electricguy very nicely done :)
20:12 egrsteve indeed
20:13 * egrsteve is planning a fully custom single shot bolt action next
20:13 egrsteve I need to figure out the air system still
20:13 Electricguy a modded small pneumatic cylinder would be cool
20:14 Electricguy to get good mechanical precision
20:14 egrsteve more the valve/ supply source
20:14 Electricguy mkay..
20:14 egrsteve I need an onld paintball gun ;)
20:14 Electricguy modded C02 pistol!? :D
20:14 Electricguy yeah paintball works too... :P
20:15 egrsteve paintball has a higher volume than airsoft which I think will be needd
20:15 Electricguy maybe someone can donate one! :)
20:15 egrsteve maybe
20:15 Electricguy it would be a damn cool project :P
20:15 egrsteve or craigs list
20:15 astro73|roam i kinda want to make an absurdly large electromechanical one-man pneumatic cannon with backpack compressor
20:15 Electricguy when you blow the projectiles to crap before they exit the barrel you know you got it right! :D
20:15 Electricguy and may want to back off a liiittle bit on the pressure :P
20:16 egrsteve that is the noodle cannon
20:16 Electricguy lol
20:16 astro73|roam ok, maybe not "absurdly large"
20:17 astro73|roam but still something that would look better on duke nukem than me
20:17 Electricguy a backpack the style of a flame thrower..
20:17 egrsteve backpack system was a thought
20:17 Electricguy but with a pair of nitrogen tanks maybe?! :D
20:17 Electricguy or a pair of scuba tanks would do..
20:17 astro73|roam Electricguy: i figure tanks, 12v gel-cell, and a compressor
20:18 Electricguy mkay.. yeah
20:18 egrsteve I was thinking something like this + an expansion tank http://www.lowes.com/pd_82384-61735-J-6901-101_0__?productId=3113951&amp;Ntt=co2&amp;pl=1&amp;currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dco2&amp;facetInfo=
20:18 BotSteve Title: Shop Kobalt Portable Compressed Co2 Regulator at Lowes.com
20:18 Electricguy yeah that would do too
20:18 astro73|roam i was more thinking along the lines of FIRST pneumatics gear
20:19 egrsteve but it's a bit pricy and doesn't solve the valve issue
20:19 Electricguy imagine this as a nerf gun... :D http://www.codblackopsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Black-Ops-Weapons-Flamethrower.jpg
20:19 astro73|roam kinda, yeah
20:19 astro73|roam sprinkler valve or home-brew?
20:19 egrsteve that would be cool
20:19 egrsteve idk
20:19 Electricguy a big high flow solenoid valve.. :P
20:20 Electricguy and BIG nerf projectiles... :P
20:20 Electricguy made of harder foam so you can shoot holes throught chipboard with the pressure all the way up! :P
20:20 egrsteve http://www.harborfreight.com/regulator-gauge-94841.html
20:20 BotSteve Title: Regulator Gauge
20:20 egrsteve + backpack tank
20:21 Electricguy pretty nice little regulator
20:21 Electricguy a little pulse tank would be nice too
20:21 Electricguy so the big tank with regulator charges up a smaller tank with a big valve on it
20:21 astro73|roam can you make a guage you can see without taking off the backpack?
20:22 Electricguy that gives a fast pulse to launch the projectile
20:22 egrsteve idk, an local tank to the valve/barrel would be nice
20:22 Electricguy extend the guage with a tube and put a wrist strap on it! ;)
20:22 egrsteve that would work
20:23 Electricguy yeah
20:23 Electricguy like scuba gear got
20:23 Electricguy i had a similar idea about a big ass water gun last summer...
20:24 Electricguy a pair of modded fire extinguishers
20:24 Electricguy one with pumped up air in it
20:24 Electricguy and one with water
20:24 Electricguy the air tank got a valve that dumps the air into the water tank
20:24 Electricguy and out comes a SHILOAD of water very fast :P
20:24 astro73|roam a satalite tank isn't a bad idea, either
20:24 astro73|roam plus, you don't have to worry about timing your valves, either
20:25 astro73|roam since you just fill up the small tank to a pressure, and that's a full load
20:25 astro73|roam just empty the whole thing
20:25 egrsteve or the other option is put a bike pump on it and make it a "pump" action
20:25 astro73|roam ewww
20:26 Electricguy some tank with some sort of gas that becomes liquid under pressure would be awesome
20:26 Electricguy so you got a LOT of gas to use
20:26 Electricguy propane is a pretty bad idea though
20:26 astro73|roam but awesome
20:26 egrsteve hey OLD paintball guns used propane
20:27 Electricguy oh they did?
20:27 Electricguy cool :P
20:27 astro73|roam http://www.viaircorp.com/OffRoad/90C.html is the compressor FIRST Robotics currently uses
20:27 BotSteve Title: VIAIR Corporation - 90C Part No. 00090
20:27 Electricguy well.. the idea itself isn't bad..
20:27 Electricguy just sad it's so flammable...
20:27 astro73|roam which is smaller and lighter than what they used to use
20:27 astro73|roam Electricguy: s/sad/awesome/
20:29 Electricguy hmmm.. a small tank to give a high speed pulse doesn't have to be big..
20:29 egrsteve hmm
20:29 egrsteve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tippmann_C-3
20:29 Electricguy only big enough to fill the barrel without loosing pressure
20:29 BotSteve Title: Tippmann C-3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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20:30 Electricguy hmm. interesting idea with a built in pump!
20:31 egrsteve I thought there was some that just used propane as the compressed gas as well
20:31 Electricguy sounds possible
20:34 egrsteve either way I need a valve and air supply solution still
20:34 Electricguy yeah
20:35 egrsteve drudic posted this a while ago, I might be able to scale it down/ redesign the concept to work for my nerf
20:35 egrsteve http://www.santarosa.edu/~spud/
20:35 BotSteve Title: Supah-Style Valve
20:36 egrsteve as 3/4" would supply plenty of air even 1/2" might
20:36 Electricguy yeah
20:36 Electricguy interesting valve
20:36 egrsteve it's basicly a simple air piloted valve
20:36 egrsteve built into a tee
20:37 Electricguy there are valves like solenoid valves. but air controlled ones
20:37 Electricguy that trigger if there is a underpressure on the control line
20:37 Electricguy and then dump all the contents in a tank
20:37 Electricguy very fast
20:37 egrsteve basicly the same as this
20:37 Electricguy yeah
20:38 egrsteve I just need a tiny version
20:38 Electricguy yeah
20:38 Electricguy hmmm
20:38 Electricguy a half inch sprinkler valve ...
20:38 egrsteve a little bulky
20:39 egrsteve I was hoping for something more compact
20:39 Electricguy mkay
20:39 Electricguy hmmm
20:40 Electricguy a very fast ballvalve would be usable..
20:40 egrsteve if I build it into a Tee and have the reservior come off the bottom it can double as the stock
20:40 Electricguy yeah
20:40 Electricguy true
20:41 egrsteve then the valve is inline w/the barrel a resiviour below it and a 1/4" control line to the trigger off of the back of the Tee
20:41 Electricguy yeah
20:41 Electricguy would be nice
20:44 egrsteve look a cheap trigger http://www.harborfreight.com/rubber-tip-air-blow-gun-68263.html
20:44 BotSteve Title: Rubber Tip Air Blow Gun
20:44 Electricguy hehehe yeah :P
20:44 Electricguy not THAT much airflow though
20:45 Electricguy but with high enough pressure it should do
20:45 egrsteve no thats the trigger for the main valve
20:45 Electricguy ahh!
20:45 Electricguy ok
20:52 egrsteve if/ when I make that it's going to need to be a serious video
20:56 egrsteve as it will be an aluminum barrel/breech
21:00 Electricguy yeah :)
21:00 Electricguy i like the current video though :P
21:00 Electricguy simple and fun :)
21:07 egrsteve what sticking the guts of a nerf gun in a lathe?
21:09 Electricguy yeah :P
21:09 Electricguy and doing a simple, yet effective mod very easily
21:11 BitViper Electricguy check out the website now, mostly functional now
21:11 astro73|roam the sprinkler valves are nice because they can be electrically actuated
21:12 Electricguy BitViper, give me the link again please :)
21:14 BitViper in pm
21:17 Experimentonomen well it looks like its dead again
21:19 Experimentonomen when i managed to get some life outta it i poked around with 5V, after that it would start up when 5V was plugged into the charge jack a few times, then it died again and havent restarted since
21:19 Experimentonomen the main processor seem to be a SC9800
21:26 Experimentonomen man that processor supports alotta formats
21:28 Electricguy it does
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21:40 Electricguy LOL! good way to get a job! http://i.imgur.com/eIsOE.jpg
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21:44 Experimentonomen lol
21:46 lwq-school hi mom
21:47 masterofmonks Hello lwq1996
21:47 * lwq1996 made a milk shake
21:49 masterofmonks Dick Clark has died.
21:49 Electricguy oh yes! https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/552867_10150758378907206_508362205_9501623_495236301_n.jpg
21:49 lwq1996 sorry but everytime i hear his name i giggle
21:49 lwq1996 i dont even know how he is
21:49 lwq1996 .wiki dick clark
21:49 BotSteve "Richard Wagstaff 'Dick' Clark[2]| (November 30, 1929 – April 18, 2012) was an American game-show host, radio and television personality, and businessman." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Clark
21:49 * BitViper is gonna track down and torture the next person that mentions dick clark dying. I think ive seen that about 500,000 times so far today
21:50 lwq1996 hehe dick clark
21:50 masterofmonks BitViper, So far I have seen it once... and I get constant news updates on my phone...
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21:51 BitViper masterofmonks : you either watch the wrong news feeds, or have the wrong friends
21:52 masterofmonks BitViper, I personally don't give a fetid dingo kidney for pop culture.
21:52 * BitViper either
21:52 BitViper but i think every fb and twitter friend and news feed i follow has mentioned it at least twice today =/
21:53 BitViper hrm, maybe its me that has the wrong friends ? LOL
21:53 masterofmonks Probably that.
21:54 masterofmonks Since I have only seen one mention of the fact.
21:59 Seroster SparkyProjects, I think my bottles are too thick.
22:00 Seroster Corona beer costs 2bucks a piece here, for 21 bottles I might just buy PROPER DAMN CAPACITORS
22:00 masterofmonks Seroster, Just get the bottles from a bar.
22:00 Seroster WHo the fuck drinks corona?
22:01 masterofmonks Hell if I know, I don't drink beer.
22:02 masterofmonks Though, you could split the cost af a case with someone.
22:02 exor674 http://i.imgur.com/50pRT.jpg I WANNA HUG IT
22:06 Seroster masterofmonks, Evryone around me drinks proper danish beer and not the corona crap
22:06 masterofmonks Yeah, but for half price....
22:06 Seroster It was hard enough to find in a mall, I've NEVER seen it in a bar. (not that I spend a lot of time in bars...)
22:07 Seroster I don't know anyone that would even drink corona for free =P
22:07 SparkyProjects Seroster, yeah that makes a difference
22:08 masterofmonks Do you know where else you can get clear glass bottles?
22:08 lwq1996 recycling?
22:08 Seroster Thing is...
22:08 Seroster NOBODY drinks corona.
22:09 SparkyProjects Ask around the neighbours, someone must drink the right stuff and be happy to pass on the bottles
22:09 Seroster I think I found why... "    American lager   Subtle nose, subtle flavor, no character    Refreshing but so is water."
22:09 masterofmonks Is there some magical properties to corona bottles that no other bottle will do?
22:10 Seroster Yes.
22:10 lwq1996 lol. i just laughed watching bill trying to lift the ramp on the truck. i do that by myself durring band camp
22:11 lwq1996 durring marching band*
22:11 SparkyProjects tgg uses corona bottles because of the relation to electrical corona
22:11 Seroster The magical property being that they are thin enough to make good capacitor bottles.
22:11 Seroster The 33cl bottles here are, unlike the american, made to last.
22:12 Electricguy i SO want to be a cat! http://klyker.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/279.jpg
22:12 Seroster The long necks also provide a good standoff between plates
22:12 SparkyProjects I wonder what the electrical properties of plastic drink bottles is, the plastic is quite thick on some
22:12 Seroster Me too, Electricguy http://thedailydose.com/lll/archives/2010-november-12-because-he-can-500x454.jpg
22:12 Electricguy oh fuck yes!
22:12 Seroster SparkyProjects, The ones I've found burned through at 8kv
22:13 Electricguy lick my ass clean and then lick me human slaves in the face!
22:13 SparkyProjects so, a set of bottles in a bucket, connect the 2 conductors to half of the bottles each, that will put them in series
22:14 SparkyProjects No connection to the bucket water
22:14 Seroster Yeah
22:14 Seroster But then I get half the capacitance.
22:15 Seroster Which means two caps
22:15 SparkyProjects but you get more capacitance due to smaller gap between plates
22:15 Seroster I'll have to find someone who can stand drinking american piss beer.
22:16 Electricguy lol! new instagram filters http://existenz.se/out.php?id=53465
22:16 BotSteve Title: Nya Instagram-filter? @ Existenz.se
22:17 masterofmonks Hmm I really like this bottle. http://www.annapolishomebrew.com/images/growlermetal.jpg
22:19 Electricguy bedtime! night all
22:20 Chipguy nite eg
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22:25 KawaiiJess Son of a bitch... Right as I get on, the person I want to talk to leaves. :|
22:27 KawaiiJess Nekoroms, since he's gone, I'll tell you and you can pass the message on. I ordered the more expensive AV40s from Amazon, and M-Audio sent me the fucking new ones that are $70 cheaper... Now I get to wait two days while they reply to my exchange request...
22:33 exor674 KawaiiJess: faiiiiil on their part /o
22:34 KawaiiJess Yeah.. I'm really fuckin pissed because it wasn't sold by Amazon so now I have to wait forever and M-Audio is probably going to make me pay for shipping or some bullshit and then take a week to exchange it
22:35 injektion I made someone at work mad today and idgaf
22:35 KawaiiJess At this point I think I'm just going to call them tomorrow because I work tonight and see if I can't just get the $70 difference.
22:36 injektion "Y'all aint twisting them lids"
22:39 injektion 3 people have to twist lids because the capper is on its last legs
22:41 tonsofpcs Capper?  oh, work?
22:42 injektion yes
22:42 injektion It's more of a cRapper
22:42 tonsofpcs KawaiiJess: there's probably no one there right now... they'll be back from NAB on monday
22:42 tonsofpcs ke$ha works there?
22:43 injektion No
22:44 Experimentonomen bedtime, nite peepz
22:45 tonsofpcs gnit
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22:47 injektion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEyCzznb4Kw&amp;context=C4748366ADvjVQa1PpcFMmdHJQ9ztg5b-Xqz_ShBymgBY2G68L8nE=
22:47 BotSteve Title: Peanut Butter Capping with Resina NRS-51 capper (RS-51, S-51) Cap Machine - YouTube
22:49 injektion Those machines when they get old are a nightmare
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23:05 Toastdude Hi
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23:38 KawaiiJess So apparently nobody even sells the older version anymore so I basically paid $70 more for nothing and now I have to go through the process of returning the speakers through SameDayMusic and waiting for the exact same speakers to come direct from Amazon, but $70 cheaper...
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23:50 Cheezmo anybody chemistry savvy here?
23:50 Cheezmo and I mean savvy
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