Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-04-21

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00:00 Monkeh Seroster: How many of those resistors you have?
00:00 Seroster The mail service homepage is down for service
00:00 Seroster One,
00:00 tonsofpcs the one who fits that description in the last one I watched is yNos....
00:00 tgg|wannabe-afk lol no, not ynos
00:00 Monkeh Seroster: I need two anyway
00:01 tonsofpcs well, I know that :-p
00:01 tgg|wannabe-afk he's the guy that donated all the cameras
00:01 Seroster Crap. xD
00:01 tonsofpcs oo
00:01 Monkeh I also need a jack socket right now
00:01 tonsofpcs he's the one that was shooting with them in that one video that everyone was asking wtf was going on?
00:01 Monkeh I do believe I've just discovered laying in my box 'o bits the parts I need to build me a quick and dirty amp.
00:01 tgg|wannabe-afk https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/19751_100453099989259_100000737079820_10875_4512422_n.jpg  tonsofpcs: old photo of him
00:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: Phone? TT? mini?  also, isn't it just a jack?
00:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I have no idea. Just a 3.5mm mono.
00:02 Monkeh I'll bodge with some crocs for now and salvage one off something later
00:02 Monkeh I have a few soundcards floating around for spares
00:06 Seroster Holy crap, a 100watt computer PSU! Such raw power!
00:06 Monkeh What for, a laptop? :P
00:06 Seroster Must have been a sick gaming rig!
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00:30 SparkyProjects Serroster, connect a usb hub to it and use it as a usb charging station
00:34 Seroster And have 95watts of heat from it? naaah =P
00:38 SparkyProjects WOuld save on heating bills :D
00:38 Seroster I get free heating
00:38 Seroster Also... I got 35+c in this apartment during summer months
00:38 SparkyProjects localised heating instead of heating up the whole place
00:38 Seroster It's a ONE ROOM apartmen mate =P
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00:40 Ender Monkey
00:40 Seroster Tasty?
00:42 Ender kinda chewy
00:42 Ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d689QT0nEY4
00:42 BotSteve Title: Legend of Grimrock Main Theme - YouTube
00:42 Seroster And hairy too
00:43 Seroster I want my new computer :c
00:45 Ender I have to admit that I havent actually played it yet. But the damn theme warrants a purchase
00:46 Ender Mate of mine went mysteriously missing, then emerged covered in snail slime and mushrooms a week later...
00:48 Ender Spec on new conp Seroster ?
00:48 Seroster Err
00:48 Ender comp*
00:48 Seroster 60gig SSD, 1.1k USSD budget, triple core 2.7ghz 8gig ram 64bit
00:48 Ender brb smoke
00:51 tgg|wannabe-afk orbitron!
00:54 BatSteve Seroster: I haven't turned off Fear.FM since you linked it to me earlier.  I can feel my brain cells dying.  :]
00:54 Seroster LOL
00:54 Seroster I see you like it =)
00:56 Seroster That's four hours =)
00:58 BatSteve ...shoot me
00:58 Seroster I'm out of ammo. Want a cookie instead?
00:59 BatSteve yes.
00:59 Seroster .cookie BatSteve
00:59 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a peanut butter cookie!
00:59 BatSteve yeay
01:00 Ender Seroster  (wich/witch i knuw nat spell? <--) SSD did you buy?
01:01 Seroster Which.   Errr. The one the site suggested.
01:01 Ender seroster triple core i3 or i5
01:01 Seroster It's a swedish site where you start out with a computer and then you can tweak it
01:02 Ender link it svenske faen :P
01:02 Seroster AMD A-Series A6-3500 Socket- FM1, Triple Core, 2.1Ghz, 65W, 3MB, Radeon HD6530 [info]
01:03 Seroster http://www.komplett.se/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=10538
01:03 BotSteve Title: Komplett.se
01:04 Seroster Ended up at around 7500SEK
01:07 Ender Looks like a sweet buy! Komplett.se/no know what their talking/writing about
01:08 Ender Your gonna love that tiny ssd!
01:09 Seroster Seems to be a good compromise between budget and size
01:09 SparkyProjects Mine worked out at half that price, though dual core and 120Gb hd
01:09 SparkyProjects I added a logitech keyboard/mouse and a dual gfx card within the price
01:09 Seroster Ah
01:09 Seroster Mine includes a screen and the ssd, which adds about 2000SEK (200£)
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01:09 SparkyProjects On top of that i got 2 22 inch widescreen monitors
01:10 Seroster Tsk
01:10 Ender which gfx card did you get two of?
01:10 Ender Sparky
01:12 SparkyProjects It was a dual gfx card Nvidia GeForce 8500 GS
01:12 SparkyProjects *8400
01:12 Ender ah
01:12 Ender so this was 2 years ago ?
01:13 SparkyProjects i also got another computer the same, but with 2 19 inch widescreen, and 2 computers which i just use the onboard gfx and single monitors
01:13 Ender 6 years ago*
01:14 SparkyProjects so yeah, i own 4 PC's
01:14 SparkyProjects oh and a netbook :P
01:14 Ender Well it depends what you want to use your computer fore!
01:14 SparkyProjects About 4 years ago i think, maybe 5
01:14 Seroster Aye
01:14 Ender Surfing the net or gaming
01:15 Seroster The most intensive I'll throw through my new rig will be surfing and a bit of minecraft.
01:15 SparkyProjects Not a gamer, but i tend to watch a lot of vids
01:15 Ender minecraft is surprisingly ruff on some hardware.
01:15 SparkyProjects and more recently i edit and upload my own vids
01:16 Ender probably because its coded in java :P
01:16 Seroster Aye
01:16 Seroster Wouldnt it run better if I threw it on the ssd?
01:17 BatSteve I'm not sure, doesn't it all just cache into RAM anyway?
01:17 Ender Sparkyprojects the great thing about computer specs at the moment is that they last allot longer then the did before.
01:17 BatSteve like, it shouldn't be hitting the hard drive at all unless you don't have enough ram
01:17 Seroster BatSteve, And for minecraft you need at least a yottabyte of ram for it to run smoothly =)
01:18 tonsofpcs and yet I can play full 3d flight sim onn a tegra...
01:18 Ender In theory @Batsteve it should :)
01:19 Ender Java is a tricky beast
01:20 Seroster The Minecraft dude shoul do the following: "Dude! I got like millions of dollars because of my blocky java crap game. Lol. Let's bin it and make a game using a better language!"
01:20 SparkyProjects This is about the closest that company do (mine is no longer availabe), i don't know if that's a dual core cpu (mine is), and that one has 500Gb drive (Mine is 120) http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/gammav2.html
01:20 BotSteve Title: The Gamma V2
01:20 SparkyProjects Peice isn't too far off what i paid
01:21 Ender tegra can run loads of games tonsofpcs , but you have to get a dual tegra to run anything more than a mobile cant this year
01:22 Seroster Anyway. Nice to see you here Ender, even thou you are norwegian.
01:24 epictang0 evening/morning all
01:24 BatSteve howdy epictang0
01:25 Seroster cya folks
01:25 epictang0 hi BatSteve
01:25 Seroster And BatSteve, have fun with FearFm
01:26 Ender Sparyprojects The computer Seroster is buying has an i3-i5 cpu kinda Superior to the old dual cores. "500gb hdd hard disk drive " hes talking about a "60gb ssd -solid state drive "
01:27 Seroster Yes....? =P
01:27 SparkyProjects ah, ok
01:27 Seroster I got 160gig HDD in this lappy atm
01:27 Seroster And a terrabyte screwed to the underside of this table.
01:27 Ender Its not the storage capacity its the speed of the drive itself
01:27 BatSteve (: seeya Seroster
01:27 Seroster Börkety börk!
01:28 Seroster Or wait... Does it still say Grelfnuk when I part?
01:28 BatSteve I don't know!
01:28 BatSteve try it!
01:28 Ender ssd 220 write 215 read to 550 write 515 reS
01:28 Ender AD
01:28 BatSteve BotSteve: tell seroster that when he parts, it says "Holy crap :O"
01:29 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when seroster is around.
01:29 tgg|wannabe-afk PIZZA!
01:29 Ender Monkey!
01:29 tgg|wannabe-afk astro73|roam: you coming to the lab tonight?
01:44 epictang0 Ender: that is on the slow end of SSDs
01:45 tgg|wannabe-afk .in 45min PIZZA
01:45 BotSteve tgg|wannabe-afk: Okay, will remind at 02:30Z
01:47 Ender well epictang there are 1.5gb pci-express ssd's but the price/performance..
01:47 Ender not really any point..
01:48 epictang0 i hit 1GB/s regularly on a 10Gbit interface...cant have VMs lagging :-)
01:52 * egrsteve returns from lurking as to drive tgg|wannabe crazy
01:52 tgg|wannabe-afk hi steve
01:52 tgg|wannabe-afk is the door up there open or locked?
01:52 egrsteve 'ello
01:53 egrsteve open. for now
01:53 tgg|wannabe-afk ok
01:53 tgg|wannabe-afk i called, they know that we're the old ymca on leonard
01:53 * epictang0 is watching 'Titanic: The Final Word With James Cameron'
01:53 epictang0 interesting show
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01:54 tgg|wannabe-afk Toastdude!
01:54 tgg|wannabe-afk sorry i didn't respond on fb
01:54 tgg|wannabe-afk i was watching people in the orbitron
01:54 Toastdude :D
01:54 Toastdude Then it's okay, if it's the orbitron... I don't blame you!
01:55 tgg|wannabe-afk they tried to get me in but i won't when theres too many people around :P
01:55 Toastdude So everything's okay with it structurally? Or is this the test?
01:55 Toastdude BatSteve!
01:55 BatSteve Toastdude!
01:55 Toastdude :D
01:56 tgg|wannabe-afk it seems to be fine
01:56 tgg|wannabe-afk hi BatSteve
01:56 BatSteve heya
01:57 Si235 joined #thegeekgroup
01:58 tgg|wannabe hi Si235!
01:58 * tgg|wannabe breathed too much tgg dust today....
02:00 Ender <epictang0> i hit 1GB/s regularly on a 10Gbit interface...cant have VMs lagging :-)
02:01 Ender so you hit 125mbs ?
02:01 tgg|wannabe i swept lots of stairs and rooms and DUST
02:01 epictang0 GB not Gb
02:02 egrsteve good luck with that tgg|wannabe the orbitron alwasy gathers a small crowd
02:02 tgg|wannabe i know....
02:02 tgg|wannabe dr who is on down here...
02:03 tonsofpcs it is?
02:03 tgg|wannabe on zozo's "monitor"
02:03 Ender heh, sry mybad epistang
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02:06 BatSteve it are a kate
02:06 Katemonster nonsense.
02:06 Katemonster it are your imagination.
02:06 BatSteve oh ok
02:07 BatSteve ::goes back to youtube::
02:07 tgg|wannabe hi kate!
02:07 Katemonster hi
02:07 tgg|wannabe DALEK
02:07 Toastdude KATE
02:07 Katemonster or you could come to EVE, steve.
02:07 Katemonster TOES
02:07 Ender nn I leave you with fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pr029upJ-4&amp;feature=g-all-lik&amp;context=G2577a9eFAAAAAAAABAA
02:07 BotSteve Title: TGS Podcast 8 (feat. Davis of TheWarpZone) - YouTube
02:08 BatSteve oh
02:08 BatSteve yeah I guess I could
02:08 Katemonster lol
02:11 tgg|wannabe its steve!
02:11 tonsofpcs DA LEK SEK
02:11 tgg|wannabe no
02:14 epictang0 anyone ever experiment with Rundeck? looks to be a pretty cool process automation app
02:15 * epictang0 is doing a DevOps presentation at BlackHat this year...
02:15 epictang0 trying to get my research done
02:22 tgg|wannabe PIZZA!
02:22 Fulsy joined #thegeekgroup
02:22 tgg|wannabe hi Fulsy
02:22 Fulsy Hey
02:22 BatSteve epictang0: what's the presentation on?  Or is it on something called DevOps?
02:23 epictang0 DevOps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DevOps
02:23 BotSteve Title: DevOps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:25 Fulsy So, I've got a Rockman x100 headphone amplifier which ceased to work
02:25 tonsofpcs why?
02:26 Fulsy I'm trying to that out mysel
02:26 Fulsy *myself
02:26 Fulsy Thing is, all the tl072cp op amps are getting power
02:27 tonsofpcs symptoms?
02:27 Fulsy Turn it on, and you get your typical amp power-up pop, and some background hiss while running
02:27 BatSteve epictang0: interesting!
02:27 Fulsy but no sound goes through it
02:28 Fulsy Also, the 555 timer that was the the chorus effect LFO stopped running
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02:30 BotSteve tgg|wannabe-afk: PIZZA
02:32 tonsofpcs Fulsy: what's the load?
02:32 Fulsy load on?
02:33 Fulsy which component? Sorry, I'm just barely learning my electronics, lol
02:33 tonsofpcs the amp...
02:34 tonsofpcs (output stage)
02:34 Fulsy oh
02:38 master0fmonks joined #thegeekgroup
02:39 Fulsy ah here we go
02:39 Fulsy 8 ohms
02:39 Fulsy minimum load impedance
02:43 BatSteve .c 100866668 - 99903099
02:43 BotSteve 963 569
02:43 Monkeh Oh ow. That hurts.
02:44 Monkeh I just breadboarded a tiny amplifier to try and get my mic working on this silly Mac Mini
02:44 Monkeh End result? Massive, horrible feedback. But it works.
02:45 Fulsy Heh, Nice, Monkeh
02:46 Monkeh Sounds horrible though
02:46 Fulsy All I end up making is a 2-second smoke machine
02:46 Monkeh I think I might go the USB route instead
02:46 Fulsy Trying to get an old Rockman X100 headphone amp to work again
02:47 Fulsy I'm trying to route my old Hammond into the computer, and the rockman gives some amplification and a decent chorus effect
02:47 Monkeh I do wish USB mics weren't so pricy
02:47 Monkeh Because they're amazingly simple devices, really.
02:48 Monkeh Maybe I'll try and make one for a project.. problem is they're all SMD and that makes life fiddlyannoying.
02:49 tgg|wannabe http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17jskrvzbt2h6jpg/original.jpg
02:52 tonsofpcs Fulsy: no, what do you have hooked up...
02:52 Fulsy Sorry, It's going to the line in port on the computer
02:53 tonsofpcs no wonder you're hearing a lot of high-end...
02:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: mac mini only has line-in?
02:54 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes.
02:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh: how about something like this? http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;hs=dx6&amp;channel=fs&amp;q=usb+mic+input&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tbm=shop&amp;cid=1258855597278788680&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=myGST_fHE8-36QGxscWABA&amp;ved=0CGYQ8wIwAA ? or do you want something for a real mic?
02:55 BotSteve Title: Syba Multimedia, Inc SD-AUD20066 USB Audio Adapter
02:56 Monkeh Yeah, I could use one of those
02:56 Monkeh It's just a headset
02:56 tonsofpcs for a real mic, I use one of the guitar hero mics with the mic replaced by an XLR connector
02:57 tonsofpcs mind you, those mics are actually relatively decent
02:57 Monkeh I'm just annoyed that a £3 mic + a £3 USB adapter suddenly becomes £20
02:57 tonsofpcs i know people who have paid more for worse mics
02:57 Monkeh But those mics are actually quite decent for normal voice use
02:57 tonsofpcs I get em used at gamestop.
02:58 Monkeh You take the mic in the average headset and take the 6' of cheapest, thinnest wire they can find off, and they work fine
02:58 tonsofpcs heh
02:58 tonsofpcs you mean copper threads dipped in enamel aren't the best way to carry current?
02:59 Monkeh Not for six foot, no!
02:59 Monkeh Ever used a USB desktop mic?
02:59 tgg|wannabe ...
03:00 Cprossu ^has a case of the '...'les
03:00 Monkeh Cprossu: Who hasn't?
03:00 Monkeh Cprossu: Also, you were unsure what an LM324 is? :P
03:00 Cprossu seriously though, hrmmm....
03:00 astro73|roam guys.
03:00 Cprossu I think I might have to visit a gamestop
03:00 astro73|roam i'm making a formal MLA citation for Epic Rap Battles of History: Darth Vader vs Adolf Hitler
03:01 Cprossu and dip into egrsteve's bin of recovered switchcraft conns
03:01 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what for?
03:01 tonsofpcs you have a real interface or twelve, no?
03:02 Cprossu we have a limited supply of mics that people abuse
03:02 tonsofpcs oh, so you're going to steal the mics not the interfaces
03:02 Cprossu yes I think lol
03:02 tonsofpcs eh
03:02 Cprossu the interfaces will go to other projects
03:02 Cprossu evil ones
03:02 tgg|wannabe daleks vs cyber men....do daleks die?
03:02 tonsofpcs you can get mics cheaper
03:03 tonsofpcs tgg|wannabe: no spoilers for you, sorry :)
03:03 tgg|wannabe "torchwood" is the name of the episode
03:03 Cprossu how much they go for?
03:03 tgg|wannabe ive watched the whole series
03:03 tgg|wannabe i just forget
03:03 tonsofpcs $30 new $20 used
03:03 Cprossu ewwww
03:03 tonsofpcs then go to one of the whovian wikis....
03:03 Cprossu $5-$10 max
03:03 tonsofpcs what do you need mics for?
03:03 Monkeh What sort of mic do you need? ;)
03:04 Cprossu I don't know yet
03:04 Cprossu but it would be funny
03:04 tonsofpcs what would be?
03:04 tgg|wannabe its easier to ask tonsofpcs
03:05 Fulsy oy, I have much to learn
03:05 Monkeh Fulsy: Don't we all?
03:05 Fulsy Shame that public schools don't offer electronics courses
03:05 tonsofpcs tgg|wannabe: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doomsday
03:05 tgg|wannabe pew pew pew pew
03:05 BotSteve Title: Doomsday (TV story) - TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki
03:05 tonsofpcs Fulsy: they do, they generally call it "physics"
03:06 Fulsy Ah
03:06 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I thought it was called "magic"
03:06 Monkeh Or was that networking?
03:07 tonsofpcs Monkeh: the course, not the explanationn
03:07 Monkeh heh
03:07 Fulsy I found a book on electronics, and indeed the first thing it talks about is physics
03:07 Monkeh Everything is physics
03:08 Monkeh Except chemistry
03:09 Fulsy true
03:09 Monkeh Cprossu: I have determined that I dislike cat6.
03:10 Cprossu the dreades strain relief got you down?
03:10 Cprossu *dreaded
03:10 tonsofpcs Monkeh: physics is just applied chemistry
03:10 Monkeh Cprossu: No, I just hate the feel of it with that annoying seperator thing
03:10 tonsofpcs err, wait, other way around
03:10 tonsofpcs chemistry is applied physics
03:10 tonsofpcs http://xkcd.com/435/ << :)
03:10 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Purity
03:11 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Don't correct me with facts.
03:11 Cprossu I can't blame you there Monkeh, can't do 'em as fast
03:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, but I mean.. the cable itself just feels wrong just to handle.
03:11 tonsofpcs I didn't, I corrected you with a ciom ic :D
03:11 tonsofpcs *comiic
03:11 tonsofpcs @$*@^(*$@$(Keyboard
03:11 Monkeh I've got a short premade patch here and it's just.. WRONG
03:12 tonsofpcs annoying seperator thing?
03:12 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Little X shaped thing to seperate the pairs.
03:12 Monkeh I don't recall the name
03:12 tonsofpcs oh, the middle thingy
03:12 tonsofpcs (technical term, obv)
03:12 Monkeh Indeed
03:13 tonsofpcs it's H-shaped in the bonded-pair Cat6a that Belden sells (I've got some 10GX32)
03:13 Monkeh Cprossu: Also, someone sent me some patch cables wired to 568A. wtf?
03:13 Cprossu Monkeh yeah I know really?!
03:13 tonsofpcs Monkeh: yea, I've seen that.
03:13 Monkeh Who uses A, I mean seriously
03:13 Cprossu everyone should do 568B =P
03:14 Cprossu I've known many and wondered the same damn thing
03:14 tonsofpcs there's one company (forget which) whose patch cables are randomly A or B.  I figure they must have a line of people and they all either know A or B and they just all put a connector on one end and they sort out crossovers later
03:14 Cprossu the only time I want to see A is on the other end of a crossover =P
03:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Here's the thing.. these were specifically ordered as 568A.
03:14 Monkeh They sell both, they're explicitly labelled
03:14 Cprossu rofl
03:15 Monkeh Also crossovers are dying a long-deserved death these days
03:15 tonsofpcs Monkeh: ah, must be a specialty product to keep telecom folks happy
03:15 Cprossu except in cisco equipment =P
03:15 Monkeh Nearly any switch can handle them and almost any modern NIC too
03:15 tonsofpcs Monkeh: even if the ports are auto-sensing, you should use a crossover.[1~[4~
03:15 Monkeh I think I've only come across a couple of early gigabit NICs which can't handle it for themselves
03:15 Monkeh tonsofpcs: die.
03:16 Cprossu you know I've always wondered
03:16 tonsofpcs Monkeh: alternatively, screw with poeple and make all of your cables crossover ;)
03:16 Monkeh And yeah, I'd guess so, these did come to me via a radio company
03:17 Monkeh Cprossu: What boobs look like? :P
03:17 Cprossu if you connect two auto sensing nics together how do they know what to do? =P
03:17 Monkeh Cprossu: MAGIC!
03:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: they both try normal and then after a randomized timer on each, it will try switched
03:17 tonsofpcs there's an RFC or two describing it
03:18 Monkeh tonsofpcs: So.. magic
03:18 Cprossu seems haphazard
03:18 Monkeh You connect them and eventually they stumble into function
03:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Most of it is. It's kinda scary.
03:18 Cprossu so in short: use a f'ing crossover
03:19 Monkeh Cprossu: Except that won't work
03:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes.
03:19 tonsofpcs Monkeh: yes it will.  Because on-link, both will attempt 'normal'
03:19 Monkeh For gigabit operation all four pairs would have to be swapped, so it has to figure things out anyway.
03:21 Monkeh tonsofpcs: You know what the real answer is, right?
03:21 Cprossu http://www.wlanbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ethernet-crossover-cable-pinout-gigabit.jpg
03:21 Cprossu wow that's a f'ed up cable
03:21 Monkeh Cprossu: Thankfully that's only needed between two one in a million NICs. ;)
03:22 Monkeh A classic A>B crossover still requires gigabit NICs to figure out the pairs, so it's pointless
03:22 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I blame the telco and NIC manufs for leaving pair 1 alone to start with
03:22 Cprossu two whites next to eachother,and three solids, dirty dirty cable
03:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: just swap w/br and br/w on both ends
03:22 Monkeh Anyway, there's an easy answer to this problem
03:22 Monkeh USE FIBRE!
03:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you still need to crossover (kinda, sorta)
03:23 tonsofpcs you 'wire' tx to rx and rx to tx, just like a crossover
03:23 tgg|wannabe http://www.themarysue.com/real-sonic-screwdriver/
03:23 BotSteve Title: Someone Has Invented The Sonic Screwdriver From Doctor Who | The Mary Sue
03:23 Monkeh Again with the logic :P
03:24 tonsofpcs 101010101010101010
03:24 tgg|wannabe WHAT?!
03:24 Monkeh Cprossu: I say embrace the automagic. ;)
03:25 Monkeh Cprossu: Also, you want a fucked up NIC?
03:27 Monkeh Cprossu: I have one here which will not operate on gigabit (yes, it is a gigabit NIC) and will not autoneg full-duplex on my primary switch.
03:27 Monkeh Works okay in 100M on everything else, but won't do full-duplex on the main switch and is dead for gigabit..
03:27 tonsofpcs Monkeh: what if you set it to 1G FDX?
03:28 tonsofpcs (and the device on the other end of the cable too)
03:28 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Bad RX, iirc.
03:28 Monkeh As I said, dead gigabit
03:28 Monkeh Think 80% packet loss
03:29 Monkeh 100M full-duplex won't autoneg on one switch out of six I've tried. Weird eh?
03:30 lwq_laptop captain rattles my speakers
03:30 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I have the following messages for you:
03:30 BotSteve At 20 Apr 22:26Z, wannabe1987 asked me to ask lwq_laptop where he got that link last night, did he just type it in or did he find it on the website?
03:30 Monkeh I'm wondering if that switch is trying to use whichever pair is busted.
03:31 lwq_laptop tgg|wannabe: what?
03:31 Monkeh I could rig some patch cables to find out but I'm too lazy
03:31 lwq_laptop i post pictures regularly you got to specify
03:31 tgg|wannabe the link you gave me last night about bodens band
03:31 tgg|wannabe no, from tgg
03:31 lwq_laptop oh. i got it from google
03:31 tgg|wannabe hmmmmm ok
03:31 tgg|wannabe moose asked
03:32 lwq_laptop i googled mephitic
03:33 lwq_laptop im watching the cb where capt and astro yell at each other
03:33 tgg|wannabe lol
03:33 Monkeh Oh dear
03:33 Monkeh I just looked up the word mephitic
03:34 tgg|wannabe boden was yelling astro wasn't
03:34 Monkeh And now I need to watch that blog, so I'll be off while you spoil :P
03:34 lwq_laptop it just posted. and yeah he was kinda yelling sometimes
03:45 lwq_laptop wow, astro. YOU GOT YOUR ASSES RIPED OUT
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03:50 hhrlisa I am so beyond pissed off right now.....
03:51 lwq_laptop i am too
03:52 tgg|wannabe uh oh
03:52 tgg|wannabe whats wrong lisa?!
03:53 * lwq_laptop hugs hhrlisa
03:53 hhrlisa my job. I requested off three days next week. Monday which is my sons birthday, and saturday and sunday so I could have the party (not sure which day we wanted it) They have me scheduled to work mon, fri. and sat.
03:53 tgg|wannabe lol  they musta mis-read your schedule....
03:54 tgg|wannabe sorry.  not funny
03:54 tgg|wannabe want a jelly bean?
03:54 hhrlisa lol hard to do so. I put my name down in a book thats only for days you want off. My boss is just a bitch
03:54 hhrlisa lulz you and your jelly beans
03:54 lwq_laptop yell at him?
03:55 tgg|wannabe astro73|roam: if you ever want something to do you can come desolder these things for me.....i can't get some of them as they're three-wires thick and i don't have wrist strenght for it and i don't want to make zozo do it
03:55 tgg|wannabe you need a new job!
03:55 hhrlisa i know i do
03:55 hhrlisa but thats just not going to happen
03:56 lwq_laptop wannabe what needs desoldered. transistors?
03:56 hhrlisa what i really want is for my husband to make more money so i can be a stay at home mom
03:57 tgg|wannabe probably
03:57 tgg|wannabe inductors, actually
03:57 tgg|wannabe what does he do?
03:59 hhrlisa he delivers furniture
03:59 hhrlisa he's supposed to be going to full time and getting a raise soon. so hopefully if all goes well i can tell the asses here to suck D
03:59 tgg|wannabe cooL :D
04:00 hhrlisa we'll see if it happens or not
04:01 hhrlisa Kelly when did you guys leave dennys last night?
04:02 tgg|wannabe 3ish
04:02 tgg|wannabe got home/slept around 330
04:02 hhrlisa not bad. i wish i could have stayed but i was exhausted...
04:03 tgg|wannabe zozo had to drive home, my eyes were doing their things again....when i get supertired my eyes cross them selves and uncross themselves VERY rapidly so i can't see straight
04:03 tgg|wannabe i actually get "so tired i can't see straight" its annoying
04:03 hhrlisa nice
04:03 hhrlisa We need to do that again :) I had a blast
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04:04 tgg|wannabe hi toast
04:04 Toastdude Hi
04:04 tgg|wannabe o and lisa?  the cb from last night came out :D
04:04 lwq_laptop yeah. fucking funny as shit
04:04 lwq_laptop toast, how ya been
04:05 tgg|wannabe lisa....your bitemark/hickey is almost gone
04:05 hhrlisa lulz. Kelly i was just pondering what next to do on the net.. you solved that problem
04:05 Toastdude Okay, I guess..
04:05 * tgg|wannabe sends massive :hugs: to toast
04:05 lwq_laptop whats wrong bud?
04:05 hhrlisa tehehe i know what chris has on under his fancy shirt
04:05 hhrlisa lulz
04:06 Toastdude Thanks Kelly
04:06 lwq_laptop spray on condoms!
04:06 tgg|wannabe you're welcome toastdrew
04:06 Toastdude And no, Lee, that's my grandpa's name. :P
04:06 tgg|wannabe bud....hehehehehe it was 420 yesterday
04:06 tgg|wannabe hehehehehehe
04:08 tgg|wannabe srry
04:09 Toastdude What is 4/20?
04:09 lwq_laptop i got a 420 wallpaper on my ipod
04:10 lwq_laptop .g 420
04:10 BotSteve lwq_laptop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)
04:10 Toastdude Shall I prepare to laugh at the new CB?
04:10 lwq_laptop its the name of a bill to legalize mary jane i think
04:10 tgg|wannabe yes
04:10 lwq_laptop yes
04:13 tgg|wannabe going home now
04:13 tgg|wannabe bbl
04:13 hhrlisa have fun!
04:16 Toastdude The orbitron looks like so much fun....
04:16 Monkeh|Lap Okay, watching the CB
04:16 Monkeh|Lap Those two need to get some muscls.
04:16 Monkeh|Lap And I need a working E key.
04:16 Monkeh|Lap Anyway
04:17 Monkeh|Lap If I can manhandle a full sheet of 18mm ply around the place, two people should be able to move that.
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04:25 lwq_laptop hi monka
04:29 hhrlisa oh god oh god oh god.... i see myself
04:29 lwq_laptop your beautiful lisa. even if your pregnant
04:30 lwq_laptop if god created adam and eve then why do they have belly buttons?
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04:31 lwq_laptop hi Andyroo
04:31 Andyroo Wheee, hello IRCs
04:31 Andyroo Hey Lee
04:33 Andyroo Just watched the blog - Batman in the spinner thing! He has mad skills.
04:33 lwq_laptop lol
04:34 Andyroo Also kicking myself I missed the radio show with everyone, that could have been fun. How often are those? Weekly, daily?
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04:36 lwq_laptop usually thursdays. either on bills stickam or ggr. most likely ggr now
04:36 lwq_laptop hi kelly
04:37 Andyroo But I see Cprossu in the background of the opening shot and all I can think of is that scene in Goldmember: "Not you, henchman arbitrarily turning knobs"
04:37 wannabe1987 hi lee
04:37 Andyroo Evening Wannabe
04:37 wannabe1987 whats usually on thursdays?
04:37 wannabe1987 hi Andyroo!
04:37 wannabe1987 whatcha doin up so early?
04:38 Andyroo I'll be sure to tune in next week! Up early, after yesterday's very early start, and subsequent shutdown at about lunchtime as something nasty colonised my sinuses - oh, my sister passed her motorbike test though :D
04:38 wannabe1987 lwq_laptop: our show is called the hijacking, it can happen anytime...
04:39 wannabe1987 congrats to your sister
04:39 Andyroo Sounds like a Steven King novel! Advance warning in GMT time so I can tune in? :D
04:39 wannabe1987 possibly
04:39 Toastdude He climbed on the table...
04:39 wannabe1987 yes, he did
04:39 lwq_laptop andyroo do i have you added on facebook. and do you even have a facebook?
04:39 Andyroo ...And ordered some god damned TOAST!
04:40 Andyroo yes lwq_laptop, you did, thanks.
04:40 lwq_laptop oh your mr.cunningham!
04:40 wannabe1987 who are you on fb?
04:41 lwq_laptop i was like. i feel like i know his name
04:41 Andyroo I've been meaning to add a bunch of people GG related but keep wondering if they'll just think "who the hell's that guy?" Yep, I'm Andrew Cunningham
04:41 wannabe1987 request sent
04:42 wannabe1987 i'll let you know in advance if i know of a hijacking, k?
04:42 Andyroo I have Lee, Chris, Ynos, collecting y'all like trading cards :D
04:42 lwq_laptop lol. i add everyone. they seem to add anyone. i think i got like 50 tgg members on my facebook. maybe more
04:42 wannabe1987 chris won't add me
04:42 lwq_laptop because he doesnt love you!!! :P im kidding
04:42 wannabe1987 but i have lots of other geeks on my page
04:42 Andyroo That's a stern warning there. Should I delete your request? I'm worried now :O
04:42 lwq_laptop i have aaron on mine
04:42 Andyroo It actually hasn't come through yet though
04:42 wannabe1987 no
04:43 lwq_laptop oh yeah. i tend to creep on people a lil. dont get weirded out if i do. its just my way of making friends :P
04:43 Andyroo Ah, there you are.... Kelly?
04:43 hhrlisa andyroo im now collecting you like a trading card
04:43 wannabe1987 yes
04:43 Andyroo lisa noooooo
04:44 hhrlisa no?
04:44 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: Cprossu as a henchman.. yep, that works for me.
04:44 Andyroo No, by all means please do.
04:44 hhrlisa :D
04:44 hhrlisa yay
04:44 Andyroo Beep! There ye go
04:44 hhrlisa yay!!!
04:44 wannabe1987 thank ye :D
04:45 Andyroo I feel all popular, this is very outside my comfort zone :O
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Anyone know if there's an actual progress on the UK chapter?
04:45 lwq_laptop my new band is korn
04:45 wannabe1987 HI BANANAS!
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Hey wannabe1987
04:46 Andyroo Especially since Lisa P is a celebrated cyber stalker :D :P
04:46 wannabe1987 sup?
04:46 wannabe1987 its not stalking
04:46 wannabe1987 its intense research
04:46 Andyroo It's intense research, yes :D
04:46 lwq_laptop im a stalker for christ sake!
04:46 Andyroo It's a thing :)
04:47 Andyroo Monkeh|Lap: I believe KarlThorne and Mike from Redditch have the good lead on stuff, last I heard they were building a supercritical CO2 chamber
04:48 hhrlisa lulz
04:49 hhrlisa i leave the desk for one minute and you all start talking about me
04:49 hhrlisa this excites me
04:49 hhrlisa Also "celebrated cyber stalker? this is interesting... i didn't know i was celebrated, just that i researched...
04:50 Andyroo On a scale of one to creepy, how many floor plans of every building Chris Boden has ever lived in have you acquired?
04:51 hhrlisa Lets just say.... creepy
04:52 Andyroo Oh there's Mike on your list, I'll add him too. And Cory! Hmm, who else...
04:52 wannabe1987 lol
04:52 wannabe1987 moose
04:53 hhrlisa awww cory wouldn't add me as a friend
04:54 Andyroo How anti-social
04:55 Toastdude Cory didn't add me either... Of course I've never met him.. :P
04:55 wannabe1987 he added me but never shared posts i could see.  woot?
04:55 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Probably a good thing.. :P
04:56 hhrlisa spray on condoms.. a bad idea because it will go in the hole.....
04:56 Toastdude I have to make that alternate shaped orbitron on blender...
04:56 wannabe1987 eh.
04:58 lwq_laptop cory doesnt get on fb much. he added me
04:58 Andyroo Does anyone remember the gravity drive from Event Horizon? That/
04:58 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: That was a good film.
04:58 lwq_laptop anyone feel like upgrading some ram in my dell netbook?
04:59 Andyroo Indeed Monkeh|Lap
04:59 Monkeh|Lap lwq_laptop: No, do it yourself
04:59 lwq_laptop ive never done it before and my course in computer technology doesnt start till next year
05:00 Andyroo Oh! I just had a headache with pictures. Replace the inner ring of the orbitron with a padded sphere, I'm thinking along the lines of one of those hamster ball things that people use to roll down hills - and just let the person sit in the middle, no restraints or harnesses!
05:00 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: :D
05:00 Toastdude :D
05:01 wannabe1987 lol
05:01 Toastdude Just think if you really got running, then tripped...
05:01 Andyroo OH YES http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorbing
05:01 BotSteve Title: Zorbing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
05:03 Andyroo Toastdude: I'm betting at least 10 seconds pressed against the side. Possibly vomit inducing, but that's got to be worth the risk, right?
05:03 Toastdude Heck yeah! :P
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05:06 Druidic_Rifleman andy why is karlthorn making a "CO2 Chamber"
05:07 Andyroo Why not? Shit be cool :)
05:08 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: A supercritical CO2 chamber.
05:08 Druidic_Rifleman whats it for
05:08 Andyroo I think he got the inspiration from a youtube channel
05:08 Andyroo Various uses - I believe it's used as a solvent where you don't want regular solvents
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05:09 Monkeh|Lap Indeed, it's a solvent
05:10 Monkeh|Lap Nice safe way to, for example, clean PCBs.
05:11 Monkeh|Lap You can use it instead of acid to remove photoresist.
05:11 Andyroo And take the caffeine out of coffee, but that idea's just repugnant, I think :P
05:12 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: What's next, taking the sugar out of coke? Oh, right, they've been there.
05:14 Andyroo A single aspartame laced tear for the food industry.
05:15 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: Hey, at least it's not high fructuse corn syrup.
05:17 Andyroo Protect the children! Oh god, the syrup. We made it too sweet! We dug too deep and too greedily :(
05:17 Monkeh|Lap Andyroo: I wouldn't say too sweet so much as not properly processable.
05:17 Andyroo Disaccharides preserve us.
05:24 BatSteve Introducing the Chork!
05:24 BatSteve http://g-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/3369982/2012-4-13-chork_rect540.jpg
05:24 lwq_laptop awe bats is leaving :/
05:24 Andyroo The Chork! Why the hell not.
05:24 Monkeh|Lap Well I already have a spork and a knork
05:25 Monkeh|Lap May as well have a chork
05:25 Andyroo Just missing a spife in that collection then
05:25 lwq_laptop im so retro :/
05:26 Monkeh|Lap You're too young to be retro
05:26 wannabe1987 agreed
05:26 lwq_laptop im listening to songs that came out along time ago. and want a ibook clamshell
05:27 Andyroo I was born in '85 and I grew up with LPs and cassettes. Truly music formats is how you judge it :D
05:27 KawaiiJess Pretty sure I can sell you one :o
05:27 Monkeh|Lap Oh, trust me, my listening goes back further.
05:27 KawaiiJess lwq_laptop, unless I'm mistaken, I've got two of the teal ones at my mom's house
05:27 lwq_laptop KawaiiJess: you got a tangerine?
05:28 Andyroo We had a blue one, but it was special. Just so sluggish at everything. Ebayed it years ago.
05:28 lwq_laptop KawaiiJess: you know the specs of it off the top of your head?
05:28 KawaiiJess No idea. I'm not even sure if they're actually over there. I can't remember if I told her to garage sell them or not
05:29 KawaiiJess I don't believe it did, but it's been like a year so I can't remember
05:29 lwq_laptop ah
05:29 KawaiiJess Doesn't help I can't think straight because I just worked a 6 hour shift in a restaurant and now my brain is being melted by my new AV40 studio monitors
05:30 lwq_laptop lol
05:30 KawaiiJess My old "amazing" speakers really were shitty tin cans lol
05:31 Andyroo Cooking or waiting?
05:31 lwq_laptop i need a good pair of headphones
05:33 Andyroo I not too long ago threw out a prefectly decent pair of sennheiser earbuds, on the assumption there was a loose connection, but really it was just my iphone jack that was busted. Really should have tested them on something else first.
05:35 hhrlisa I love pissing people off on the internet :D
05:35 KawaiiJess These monitors are fucking ridiculous... It's like a whole new library of music I've never heard before :o
05:35 lwq_laptop i know. i had an ipod that did that. so i had to rig it with tinfoil to get the jack to work
05:35 lwq_laptop i need a full new computer
05:35 KawaiiJess Lol.. The last time I put tin foil into an electronic component to make it work, I almost burned the house down
05:36 lwq_laptop lol
05:36 KawaiiJess On one of those stupid fucking apple laptop chargers for the old white ibooks where it had the prongs on a joint
05:36 KawaiiJess And over time the joint wore out and separated
05:36 lwq_laptop my sister was stupid enough to stick tinfoil in a electrical outlet
05:36 Andyroo tinfoil helmet for your iphone, there's a thought..
05:37 KawaiiJess Some kids in one of my classes in middle school went around the room during a movie and shorted all the outlets while the lights were off so when the movie was over, we couldn't do anything because it was a computer class. >_<
05:37 KawaiiJess They used an unfolded paperclip and wadded up paper
05:37 lwq_laptop lol
05:37 KawaiiJess Makes a horrific sound when you do it
05:37 Andyroo On a tenuous tin foil related note, if you have 25 minutes to spare, watch this comedy gold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96qaaQhDkY
05:37 BotSteve Title: Spaced 1.2 Gatherings - YouTube
05:39 lwq_laptop someone guess the top comments on the vevo videos on youtube
05:39 wannabe1987 jess:  kate shaved her head?!  why?!
05:40 wannabe1987 (not now....but in the past)
05:40 KawaiiJess Lol
05:40 wannabe1987 kate's not here to ask
05:40 KawaiiJess Because she used to be your typical buzz cut, slightly overweight, redneck-ish, gun nut
05:40 KawaiiJess At least that's what I imagine she was like based on the only photo I've ever seen from that era... Lol
05:41 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:41 KawaiiJess I think it was her staring at the camera and someone else took it and she's wearing like a vest or something with baggy pants and a buzz cut or something
05:41 KawaiiJess Like, out doorsy vest
05:41 KawaiiJess Not sexy vest
05:42 wannabe1987 ah. interesting
05:43 lwq_laptop does she have short hair?
05:43 KawaiiJess Lol no
05:43 KawaiiJess Kate's got hair past her boobs if I recall correctly
05:43 hhrlisa mmmmm sexy vests
05:44 KawaiiJess I'm about 6" from mermaid hair
05:44 lwq_laptop i though you said she has had buz cuts
05:44 wannabe1987 a few years ago
05:44 KawaiiJess had*
05:45 KawaiiJess http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956542/Misc/IRL%20Stuff/My%20Day%20of%20Silence%20Shirt_small.png
05:45 KawaiiJess Bask in the glory that is my Day of Silence shirt
05:46 wannabe1987 when is day of silence?
05:46 KawaiiJess Most people celebrated it today
05:46 KawaiiJess If you can call it a celebration... :(
05:46 astro73_ hello internet
05:46 KawaiiJess Walking around with duct tape on my mouth all day was morbid
05:46 wannabe1987 odd.  i ddin't see anyone posting about it on fb....normally at least one person posts about it....
05:46 wannabe1987 :/
05:46 astro73 day of silence?
05:46 wannabe1987 she came out to facebook the otherday.  it was awesome :D
05:47 wannabe1987 mhm
05:47 KawaiiJess I had pink duct tape that said "Day of Silence – NO H8"
05:47 KawaiiJess And that shirt
05:47 astro73 nice
05:47 KawaiiJess Easily one of the most terrifying things I've ever done
05:47 astro73 i'm not allowed to do that. i answer phones.
05:47 astro73 thank you
05:47 KawaiiJess I was so worried someone was going to assault me after some fuck head verbally shouted at me after my first class
05:48 KawaiiJess -verbally. I was gonna say assault
05:49 KawaiiJess {Playing} "Louder (Feat. Sian Evans) (Flux Pavillion And Doctor P Remix)" - Artist: DJ Fresh - Album: Louder (Feat. Sian Evans)
05:50 KawaiiJess This sounds FUCKING AWESOME on these monitors
05:51 Andyroo Just googled AV40. Slightly jealous.
05:51 KawaiiJess :D
05:51 wannabe1987 i'd LOVE to do the day of silence, but my job entails me to talk to old people (both jobs do) so i can't...plus boden would give me crap
05:51 astro73 punch him
05:51 KawaiiJess I originally ordered the "previous version" on amazon because they were $70 more and had higher specs, but nobody sells them anymore and the third party seller sent me the new ones so I have to return them and I already got the "new" new set direct from amazon prime
05:52 wannabe1987 who, boden?!
05:52 wannabe1987 i'll get shot!
05:52 astro73 wannabe1987, if he gives you crap about supporting minorities?
05:52 wannabe1987 i'll get shot!
05:52 astro73 fuck him!
05:53 KawaiiJess Andyroo, the bass response is delicious
05:53 KawaiiJess Way better than my old 2.1 setup
05:53 hhrlisa boden gives everyone crap just because he's boden
05:53 hhrlisa i got chased with a cricket bat FOR NO REASON!!!
05:53 hhrlisa :D
05:54 wannabe1987 yes
05:54 wannabe1987 and you put your mic in your cleavage and it held there
05:54 Andyroo I was using Harman Kardon Soundsticks II until the neighbours complained. I mostly listen through a crappy logitech headset now. Sigh.
05:55 hhrlisa that was fun though. my boobs support mic :D
05:56 wannabe1987 ok bedtime
05:57 wannabe1987 work at the facility tomorrow 2-10 :/
05:57 hhrlisa have fun
05:57 wannabe-zz right....
05:58 lwq_laptop lol, fun at wannabes job, thats a good one
05:59 Andyroo good night!
05:59 Andyroo I'mma go find breakfast now. Later all :)
06:00 Toastdude nIGHT
06:00 Toastdude *Night
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06:03 lwq_laptop KawaiiJess: your buddy is here :P
06:03 lwq_laptop shes alive see
06:04 lwq_laptop Katemonster: hi
06:05 Katemonster hi lee.
06:10 lwq_laptop going to be a long night of downloading and sorting new music
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06:10 lwq_laptop hi chipguy
06:10 Chipguy hey
06:12 KawaiiJess lwq_laptop, I know. I told her to get online :P
06:12 lwq_laptop lol
06:18 lwq_laptop why the hell have i been getting headaches
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06:21 hhrlisa because it's 2 am and you should be sleeping?
06:21 lwq_laptop is there a such thing as internet police
06:21 lwq_laptop eh. i stay up late on the weekends
06:21 lwq_laptop i had a nap today too
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06:57 KawaiiJess Anyways, what were we doing lwq_laptop? :P
06:57 lwq_laptop huh what?
06:57 KawaiiJess Kate's gone
06:57 lwq_laptop oh, idk
06:57 lwq_laptop im out of it really
06:57 KawaiiJess It was a bit of a joke
06:59 lwq_laptop i really dont know what we were talking about really. her haircut?
07:01 KawaiiJess I think so
07:02 lwq_laptop lol
07:04 lwq_laptop apple is idiots. they called it a wifi adress not a mac adress
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07:05 KawaiiJess Err, what?
07:07 KawaiiJess They have actually always called it either Ethernet ID or Airport ID
07:07 KawaiiJess Presumably because MAC address would be confusing for the uneducated
07:07 lwq_laptop well they need to become more eduacted
07:07 tehdark45 Wut you tak
07:08 tehdark45 ing about
07:08 tehdark45 i gut mah PC
07:08 tehdark45 I don't have no MAc
07:08 tehdark45 :P
07:09 * tehdark45 sends edumacation to lwq_laptop
07:11 KawaiiJess Kate and I are officially boss. :P I can open carry my GI Tanto and she can concealed carry her pistol
07:11 KawaiiJess We're ready to fuck someone's day up
07:11 * Sgt_Lemming tapes KawaiiJess to a pole with aramid fibre tape
07:11 KawaiiJess D:
07:12 Sgt_Lemming good luck fucking someone's day up now :-P
07:12 KawaiiJess Haha
07:12 lwq_laptop lol
07:12 Sgt_Lemming considering your knife won't do shit against that tape
07:12 lwq_laptop jess how old are you?
07:12 tehdark45 over 9000?
07:12 KawaiiJess Well it's the stuff they make kevlar out of right?
07:12 lwq_laptop old enough to get the ccl
07:12 KawaiiJess lwq_laptop, 22
07:12 lwq_laptop oh then i pressume you are
07:13 tehdark45 presume*
07:13 KawaiiJess Presume what?
07:13 lwq_laptop that you can get it. did you fill out the paper work?
07:13 tehdark45 that you are old enough for CC
07:13 KawaiiJess Oh, yeah I could get a concealed carry
07:13 Sgt_Lemming herp a derp
07:13 KawaiiJess I don't need one though
07:13 Sgt_Lemming trying to put through an online order and it kept rejecting it
07:13 lwq_laptop why?
07:13 Sgt_Lemming going "WTF" cause I know the card is valid and has money on it
07:13 KawaiiJess I don't carry guns like Kate and I don't really see any reason why I would want to conceal a 12" survival knife
07:14 Sgt_Lemming had "Visa" selected instead of "Mastercard"
07:14 * Sgt_Lemming herpaderps some more
07:14 lwq_laptop jess you have a gun?
07:14 KawaiiJess Not to mention conceal carrying my fucking survival knife would be fucking annoying
07:14 KawaiiJess No, I just said I don't
07:15 KawaiiJess Kate is the one who owns all the guns
07:15 KawaiiJess I'm just being a wannabe and I bought a survival knife she owns that I liked
07:15 KawaiiJess So I can pretend to be a boss xD
07:15 Sgt_Lemming eh, conceal carrying a knife is easy
07:15 lwq_laptop lol
07:15 Sgt_Lemming especially if it's a straight blade
07:15 KawaiiJess It's just freaking huge
07:16 KawaiiJess I'm honestly not even sure what practical use I'll ever find for it
07:16 lwq_laptop you get lost or stranded somewhere you will fast
07:16 tehdark45 KawaiiJess, stabbing ganstas
07:16 KawaiiJess Well besides that
07:16 KawaiiJess Camping is the only realistic thing I could think of
07:17 KawaiiJess http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Tanto-Secure-Ex-Sheath/dp/B004H9DO4Y
07:17 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Cold Steel GI Tanto Knife with Secure-Ex Sheath: Sports & Outdoors
07:17 KawaiiJess That's what I got
07:17 KawaiiJess It's a foot long
07:18 lwq_laptop nice. would be hard to conseal
07:19 lwq_laptop i cant spell tonight and idc if it bugs you guys
07:19 KawaiiJess Yeah, and in my situation, since I wouldn't actually know how to use it in a fight, it would be more useful as open carried so they would see it from a distance
07:19 tehdark45 what you mean tonight lee?
07:19 tehdark45 :P
07:24 tehdark45 busy here today
07:24 KawaiiJess Fuck this is awkward
07:25 KawaiiJess I've had a subwoofer underneath my desk for like 6 years now and I've gotten so used to using it as a foot rest and it's no longer there
07:25 lwq_laptop lol. get a new one?
07:25 KawaiiJess I don't need a woofer anymore
07:25 KawaiiJess I've got these bitchin studio monitors
07:27 tehdark45 KawaiiJess, there is no such as thing as too much speaker
07:27 tehdark45 :P
07:30 KawaiiJess ;)
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07:35 KawaiiJess LOLOL
07:35 KawaiiJess Jesus christ these monitors are beastly
07:35 KawaiiJess I'm playing with the THX woofer test on youtube in 1080p
07:35 y007-nb im getting 2 studio monitors from my aunt the 3rd
07:36 KawaiiJess I can't figure it out, but there's crackling in the background. The bass is ridiculous though. I cranked it up for a second and my desk started rumbling hardcore
07:36 tehdark45 KawaiiJess,  that is known a noise
07:36 tehdark45 :P
07:36 y007-nb lol
07:36 KawaiiJess Is the crackling them bottoming out?
07:37 KawaiiJess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-EzIiVoxQ&amp;feature=related
07:37 BotSteve Title: THX Subwoofer test (1080p HD) - YouTube
07:38 KawaiiJess Is it supposed to crackle?
07:38 y007-nb KawaiiJess, prolly the way youtube compresses video
07:38 y007-nb video/audio
07:38 KawaiiJess Gotcha
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07:39 y007-nb like i compared a friends 1080p from the raw source to his youtube upload and there was a noticable difference
07:39 Electricguy morning
07:39 KawaiiJess Gotcha
07:39 y007-nb hi
07:39 KawaiiJess Electricguy!
07:39 KawaiiJess You can't buy the old AV40s anymore Electricguy
07:41 KawaiiJess Oh snap
07:41 KawaiiJess {Playing} "Derezzed" - Artist: Daft Punk - Album: TRON: Legacy
07:43 Electricguy oh fuck
07:43 KawaiiJess Yeah it's just the youtube video y007-nb
07:44 KawaiiJess Yeah Electricguy, Amazon sent me the new ones when I paid for the old ones so I have to return them and I already bought the same new ones for $70 cheaper so I currently own two sets until they send the RMA shit
07:44 Electricguy huh okey
07:45 Electricguy darn
07:45 KawaiiJess Well, SameDayMusic sent me the wrong ones. I called and they said nobody carries the old one anymore
07:45 KawaiiJess So instead everyone is ripping people off by charing two different prices for the same revised speakers...
07:45 KawaiiJess Furthermore, the ones from SameDayMusic are revision C and the Amazon ones are D
07:45 Electricguy hrm okey
07:46 KawaiiJess *shrugs*
07:46 Electricguy that sucks..
07:46 Electricguy the old ones are good..
07:46 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, where did you go
07:47 Electricguy not tried the new ones though
07:47 lwq_laptop organizing my music
07:47 KawaiiJess Electricguy, the new ones are pretty decent
07:47 Electricguy oki
07:47 KawaiiJess I think what might have happened is they updated the technology and components got cheaper
07:47 KawaiiJess Because they still seem to be extremely high quality
07:47 Electricguy yeah perhaps
07:47 KawaiiJess http://www.wooferbasstest.com/320-kbps-mp3-bass-woofer-test-4-themes/subwoofer-test.html
07:47 BotSteve Title: 320 Kbps (mp3) Bass & Woofer Test – 4 Themes | Speakers Sound Test - Woofer & Bass
07:47 KawaiiJess I really want to crank these because just a tiny bit of volume is making my entire room shake
07:47 lwq_laptop i want a speaker setup that rocks the walls
07:47 KawaiiJess But it's 1am and everyone is sleeping
07:48 lwq_laptop its almost 4 here
07:48 Electricguy lol
07:48 lwq_laptop am
07:48 KawaiiJess The monitors are bassy enough to make my chair vibrate when its sitting on concrete so uh
07:48 Electricguy lwq_laptop, my system tend to open my closet door and make concrete crap fall from my wall.... XD
07:48 lwq_laptop lol
07:49 KawaiiJess LOL
07:49 tehdark45 KawaiiJess, it is not 1
07:49 tehdark45 .t pdt
07:49 BotSteve Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:49:34 PDT
07:49 tehdark45 :P
07:49 KawaiiJess Shaddup
07:49 tehdark45 i didnt talk
07:50 Electricguy breakfast time! brb
07:50 tehdark45 I type
07:50 KawaiiJess {Playing} "One More Time/Aerodynamic" - Artist: Daft Punk - Album: Alive 2007
07:50 KawaiiJess This sounds pretty god damn nice :)
07:50 lwq_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gWe4ztiIec&amp;feature=branded
07:50 BotSteve Title: Snoop Dogg - Stoner's Anthem - YouTube
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07:54 KawaiiJess {Playing} "Steady, As She Goes" - Artist: The Raconteurs - Album: Broken Boy Soldiers
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07:56 Thermoelectric There, much better.
07:58 Thermoelectric I sorta like F16 Gnome in "fallback" mode rather than the prettier GUI...
07:58 y007-nb KawaiiJess, i love that song
07:58 KawaiiJess I heard it on It Might Get Loud
07:59 y007-nb i heard it on the alt rock station from 181.fm
07:59 KawaiiJess And after realizing it was Jack White, I had sex with the mp3
07:59 y007-nb lol
07:59 KawaiiJess A lot of ones and zeros were involved...
08:00 tehdark45 Thermoelectric, thats how you know you are ment to be here
08:01 tehdark45 when you dont like the shine
08:01 tehdark45 as much as the use
08:01 Thermoelectric :)
08:01 tehdark45 all you need is X
08:02 Thermoelectric I think I'll just try to not reboot this... I always manage to screw up Fedora when I go and poke around in its guts...
08:02 tehdark45 lol
08:03 tehdark45 hit is with a hammer
08:03 tehdark45 problem solved
08:03 Experimentonomen used windows 7, problem solved
08:06 Thermoelectric Windows 7 is too resource eating...
08:06 tehdark45 yes
08:06 tehdark45 tis
08:06 Thermoelectric And Microsoft is starting to make all the not very legal copies not work.
08:07 Experimentonomen i dont have that prollem is i paid for and own a genuine license
08:08 tehdark45 Thermoelectric, windows loader will fix all those problems
08:08 KawaiiJess Hey, someone wanna help me interpret this legal jargon?
08:08 KawaiiJess http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.270
08:08 BotSteve Title: RCW 9.41.270: Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm — Unlawful carrying or handling — Penalty — Exceptions.
08:08 KawaiiJess I can't figure out if I'm allowed to open carry a knife or what
08:08 KawaiiJess The way that reads, I don't think I can
08:08 tehdark45 KawaiiJess, up here in BC we can have a 4" blade
08:09 tehdark45 if that helps
08:09 KawaiiJess *shrugs*
08:10 KawaiiJess The way that law reads, I can't open carry a knife because it can be perceived as intimidating or can freak out others
08:10 tehdark45 move to canada?
08:10 KawaiiJess Which is kind of a stupid fucking law if you ask me because that's sort of the whole point to wearing a knife publicly
08:12 lwq_laptop ok. going to bed. have fun you guys
08:12 tehdark45 what kind of fun lee
08:13 * Experimentonomen doesent understand why ppl bother with linux as theres like almost nothing available for like everyday computer use
08:13 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, you sound like you dont belong here, lol
08:13 tehdark45 :P
08:14 lwq_laptop i use ubuntu for everyday computer use
08:14 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, so what is Libre Office then? Firefox?
08:15 lwq_laptop i got a headache im going to go lay down and sleep
08:15 tehdark45 those are pretty everyday
08:15 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, no, you must be like a boss
08:15 tehdark45 and not let it defeat you
08:15 tehdark45 :P
08:16 Experimentonomen another prollem with linux is that pretty much all manufacturers of computer parts do not include drivers for linux with their products do to a too small user grounp, u have to write ur own drivers for everything = u have to be a bit of a hacker to make linux work at all
08:17 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, Nvidia, Broadcom, ATI all have drivers
08:17 tehdark45 on linux
08:17 tehdark45 >.>
08:18 Experimentonomen i tried ubuntu for 2 weeks, it wanned nothing to do with m y printer so i had to throw it out and go back to win xp
08:18 tehdark45 lol
08:19 Experimentonomen and during those 2 weeks, furfing the net, ircing with x-chat and listen to music was about all that was possible to do
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08:22 tehdark45 furfing is fun
08:26 * Electricguy returns
08:30 Experimentonomen bottom line, linux sux for everyday use
08:31 Nekoroms thats what it is :)
08:35 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZwcXYZenX0
08:35 BotSteve Title: David Armand mimes Don't Stop Me Now by Queen - Fast and Loose - YouTube
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09:32 Thermoelectric Sgt_Lemming, Did you try watching that muted? It's interesting...
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09:57 * Experimentonomen took the front off an old boombox and hooked it up to his little amp :P
10:00 y007-nb lo
10:11 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, Did you work at a transformer winding place at one stage?
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10:48 eg_lappy gonna fix a sankyo SRC 4040 stereo receiver
10:48 eg_lappy stream is up.. www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
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11:52 Experimentonomen Thermoelectric, yes i did
11:54 * Experimentonomen is modifying an old boombox
12:07 Thermoelectric Ah, okay. Was wondering, do you think it will be easy/hard to rewind the secondary on a old EI core transformer?
12:08 Experimentonomen you can delaminate the core, but due to the confdormal coating, it will be near impossible to neatly put the core back together
12:10 Thermoelectric Hmm, okay. Would it be worth removing the conformal coating and coating it with some sort of varnish?
12:10 Experimentonomen i had a akai aa810 2x15w receiver that a friend said was way louder than his modern day like 60-100w/ch sony receiver
12:11 Experimentonomen it was a home cinema receiver at that
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12:36 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9EE19UnMUE
12:36 BotSteve Title: Sankyo SRC 4040 stereo hifi receiver pounding a pair of old nice Cerwin Vega's - YouTube
12:36 Electricguy it works :)
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13:01 mashpriborintorg hyia
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13:05 mashpriborintorg Hi Seroster
13:05 Seroster Ello
13:05 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
13:05 BotSteve At 01:29Z, BatSteve asked me to tell seroster that when he parts, it says "Holy crap :O"
13:05 Seroster BotSteve, tell BatSteve-Away LOL. Sounds like fun. =)
13:05 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
13:06 mashpriborintorg I've found an interesting old hard drive into a scrap computer, it has a dummy platter inside, and an optic position encoder on the heads arm
13:06 Seroster owtf
13:06 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
13:06 BotSteve At 13:06Z, masterofmonks asked me to tell seroster Spatula
13:07 Seroster lol
13:07 mashpriborintorg one platter is real, the other is dummy, I'll take photos of it someday
13:08 masterofmonks Seroster, did you click the link I gave you yesterday?
13:09 Seroster I don't click any of your links, sir.
13:10 masterofmonks I don't goatse in the main channel, you should know that by now.
13:10 masterofmonks You are just upset about the timecube incident.
13:22 Seroster Yeah... Timecube
13:22 Seroster wtf.
13:24 Seroster wannabe-zz, Wake up.
13:26 Seroster BotSteve, tell wannabe I wonder who the kid arguing with chris at 21minutes in the captains blog is.
13:26 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when wannabe is around.
13:27 mashpriborintorg this avionics stuff they got is yummy :p
13:27 Seroster Maybe you know mashpriborintorg?
13:28 mashpriborintorg it is one of the young guy helping down there, not the first time we see him, but I could not tell his name
13:29 Electricguy i want a small composite monitor to fit i my electronics lab consloe...
13:29 Electricguy console*
13:30 mashpriborintorg Electricguy, this arduino avrdude error is kidding me, really
13:30 Seroster Yelling at people =! having an argument
13:31 mashpriborintorg I'm getting fed-up with that, I may order an other atmega chip with booloader, to see it if makes any changes, as I'm pretty sure it's a bootloader issue
13:38 Electricguy very strange
13:38 Electricguy tried to change USB port?
13:38 mashpriborintorg yeah, tried everything
13:39 Electricguy mkay
13:39 Electricguy weird
13:39 mashpriborintorg uploading will work after a number of tries, randomly
13:39 Electricguy well... it is a ESD sensitive device.. so it might as well be dead
13:40 mashpriborintorg then after it works ok until it starts to fail again, after some time
13:40 mashpriborintorg When I manage to have a sktech uploaded, it works as it should tho
13:41 Electricguy strange
13:41 Electricguy ok, gonna watch mythbusters now
13:41 mashpriborintorg and uploading with a shield mounted on seems to increase the problem, even if pins 0 and 1 are not used
13:44 Experimentonomen *yawn*
13:44 mashpriborintorg .coffee Experimentonomen
13:46 Experimentonomen eww YUCK!
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13:51 * Experimentonomen hears his dinner explode in the nukebox
13:56 mashpriborintorg this guy seems to be doing interesting stuff http://youtu.be/-gCTKteN5Y4
13:56 BotSteve Title: A close look at supercritical carbon dioxide CO2 - YouTube
13:58 Experimentonomen liquid helium 2 is also interesting
14:24 Electricguy ok, donw watching
14:24 Electricguy done*
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14:27 * Andyroo waves
14:27 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon roo
14:27 Andyroo Aftahnoon!
14:28 * Experimentonomen sees some houses beeing prepared for demolition across the yard from where he lives
14:28 mashpriborintorg make a timelapse !
14:29 yNos hey all
14:29 angy .cookie yNos
14:29 BotSteve Here you go, yNos, I baked you a molasses cookie!
14:29 Experimentonomen all windows have been removed and thereone or two excavators on scene
14:29 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon yNos
14:29 yNos dthanks for the cookie!
14:29 Experimentonomen i have neither hardware, nor software to make timelapse video
14:30 yNos we are carpooling to pontacrack for a wedding..
14:30 Gaxnys hey yNos!
14:30 yNos hiya
14:31 yNos me and 6 others.. i am the only male..
14:31 yNos estrogen overload up in this van
14:32 Experimentonomen scary
14:33 yNos yah
14:33 yNos my sister cant drive the speedlimit..
14:33 Experimentonomen you drive
14:34 BitViper Experimentonomen : if ya cant timelapse it, at least stream it
14:35 yNos i offered to drive
14:35 yNos she thinks i drive crazy
14:36 BitViper *cough*
14:36 Seroster EY ynos
14:36 yNos becaue i chang lanes when i see people merging in, i gtdo their way..
14:36 Seroster WHo was the kid that got yelled at in the latest cb?
14:36 yNos astro
14:37 ajcc the #thegeekgroup astro?
14:37 Seroster Yes
14:37 Seroster astro73 HIIII there little boy! Want some candy? I got lots in my van! =D
14:37 ajcc I thought it was a she named alice
14:38 Gaxnys No, that's her client afaik.
14:38 Gaxnys his*
14:38 Gaxnys x(
14:38 yNos that is the name of the computer..
14:38 Gaxnys oh
14:38 Seroster And the fact he named his computer is how we know he's a virgin =)
14:38 masterofmonks Seroster, False.
14:38 Gaxnys Seroster: That matters why?
14:39 yNos i think his compters are named after main chars from books..
14:39 DamianZ I name all my computers, how do you know which is which otherwise?
14:39 Electricguy talking backwards i do
14:39 Seroster '-'
14:39 Chipguy taking backwards i do too
14:39 Seroster Do I backwards talk?
14:39 Electricguy MY workstation is named.. Workstation.. the lappy is named Laptop and my server is named Hulda... :P
14:39 ajcc hmm :/, now I don't like astro either. I thought he was a grown up young lady with cats who sat on the support line at some software company all day
14:40 Seroster Hulda xD
14:40 Electricguy yes :D
14:40 ajcc so it was alright to get corrected with smart comments, I thought
14:40 Experimentonomen a chipguy appearing i see ;p
14:40 BitViper hey yNos, whats the diameter of the tubing on the orbitron ?
14:40 Seroster I met a police lady that was called "Hedda-Greta"
14:40 BitViper the main 3 rings, not the support
14:40 Electricguy lulz Sero!
14:40 Seroster BitViper, 2'' guesstimate.
14:40 yNos not sure..
14:41 ajcc Hedwig and Greta, hehe, best name combination ever!
14:41 yNos i didnt measure.. i just spun
14:41 BitViper so 3" would be a large guess ?
14:41 Seroster Yes
14:41 BitViper ok good enough
14:41 Seroster Look at peoples hands in relation to the tubes
14:41 yNos like hedvig's angry inch?
14:41 BitViper im trying to engineer out the shape request from the last cb
14:41 Seroster A hand might be around 4''
14:41 ajcc yNos: she got an angry inch, angry inch!
14:41 Seroster So 2-3inches diameter seems likely
14:42 BitViper cool, i'll work with 3" for plenty of room
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14:43 Seroster I suppose they want to make a new one out of straight pieces of tube?
14:43 mashpriborintorg or the aluminium stockbars they have
14:43 lwq_laptop think. now apple can use usb3 to transfer files and it will be faster
14:43 Seroster You could make one square, you just need a lot more space between the "rings"
14:44 Electricguy those extruded alu bars are about 2.5"
14:44 BitViper Seroster : yeah im working on octogon
14:45 ajcc astro needs to get laid so bad!
14:45 Seroster The more the difference between the closest lenght from the center to the side and center to the corner, the more those two numbers differ the more space you'll need between ring. The more sides you got the tighter you can stack them,  Problem with making a 64-gon is that it would take too much welding.
14:45 lwq_laptop how fucking long does it take to back up an ipod and sync 200songs onto it
14:45 Seroster I agree that an octagon would be a decent compromise between welding and roundness.
14:46 ajcc I really liked the tiled square idea
14:46 ajcc did anyone figure out if it would work?
14:46 Seroster Tiled square?
14:46 ajcc titled
14:46 ajcc no, wait
14:47 ajcc tilted
14:47 ajcc if you google tilt, google tilts, it seems
14:47 lwq_laptop i like how if you click "stop syncing" the whole fucking program fucks up
14:47 Seroster '-'
14:48 lwq_laptop FUCK
14:48 * lwq_laptop rages
14:48 Experimentonomen dont you fucking swear like that, kid! ;p
14:48 ajcc rage quit!, rage quit!
14:48 ajcc sorry, I'll be back in an hour or so
14:48 lwq_laptop .sudo make me a sandwhich
14:49 ajcc .cookie lwq_laptop
14:49 BotSteve Here you go, lwq_laptop, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
14:49 Experimentonomen *poof* you're a sandwhich
14:49 Experimentonomen :P
14:49 ajcc make me a sandwhich, -make your own!, -sudo make me a sandwhich
14:49 lwq_laptop wow a cookie!!!!!! -noms it quietly in the corner-
14:49 Electricguy .sudo is not a internal command, external command, program or a programfile
14:50 lwq_laptop if only apple liked linux enough to make itunes work with it
14:50 ajcc doesn't iTunes run in Wine?
14:50 Electricguy why even make itunes work!? itunes sucks balls..
14:50 ajcc Spotify does, better than their Linux client actually, because it works.
14:51 lwq_laptop never tried. plus i dont know how to use wine
14:51 ajcc lwq_laptop: http://www.winehq.org/
14:51 BotSteve Title: WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X
14:51 mashpriborintorg I got the opportunity to get an ipod suffle, new in the bow for 15 euros
14:51 lwq_laptop i just need something to put music on my ipod. and itunes cant do that on a windows 7 pc aparently
14:51 mashpriborintorg didn't take it because of itunes :p
14:52 lwq_laptop lol
14:52 Experimentonomen itunes sux ballz
14:52 Electricguy indeed
14:52 ajcc you two guys don't like anything
14:52 Electricguy worst shit i've ever tried to use.. serieoulsy
14:52 lwq_laptop I KNOW IT DOES. i just need it to work now because i want new music
14:53 masterofmonks Winamp syncs ipods.
14:53 Experimentonomen buy a fucking cd or a spotify premium account then
14:53 Electricguy i mean.. WTF is wrong with letting the flash drive pop up directly!?
14:53 lwq_laptop who buys cd's anymore?
14:53 ajcc I do...
14:53 lwq_laptop lol
14:53 Experimentonomen i do too sometimes
14:54 Electricguy it's just because Apple want control.. it's like youtube.. Apple have made their own verison of yourube, re encoding videos to make them work on ipads and such.. WHY???!
14:54 Electricguy i burns CDs too
14:54 Electricguy burn*
14:54 ajcc I have an issue with cymbals and compressed lossy audioformats
14:54 Monkeh Cprossu: Well, the NVS is good. My old AMD64 board's still in thermal runaway though :{
14:55 lwq_laptop i just want to throw windows at a brick wall
14:55 lwq_laptop what were those programs?
14:56 lwq_laptop which works best with ipod and on linuz
14:56 lwq_laptop linux*
14:56 Electricguy convert the ipod to run RockBox and you'll be all fine
14:56 Chipguy yeah
14:56 ajcc hm, I use vlc for music, I've never been a fan of the massive playlist music players
14:57 Experimentonomen so you manually pick each song ?
14:57 ajcc no, I'm one of those guys who listen to entire albums
14:58 lwq_laptop can the music player on ubuntu already sync ipod?
14:59 ajcc hm, banshee could sync iPods before
14:59 yNos my playlists are something like.. find $musicdir -tupe f | mplayer -playlist -
14:59 lwq_laptop screw it. i need to get mowing done
14:59 ajcc Totem can't sync iPods it seems
15:00 ajcc (which is the crappy player shipped with Gnome)
15:00 ajcc I wonder if it's possible to find a Debian users with an iPod, it's quite the contradiction
15:01 ajcc :)
15:01 yNos lol.. in the directions, it says "get off on exit 69, Big Bever road."
15:03 ajcc hehe, did the GPS say that out loud?
15:06 yNos no, mapquest.
15:06 yNos sisters directions.
15:06 ajcc I only know mapquest from Conan O'Brien jokes
15:08 ajcc is it all still in text?
15:08 ajcc Ok, drive 0.7 miles, now drive 0.01 mile. You are now completely lost.
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15:10 tonsofpcs oy
15:12 BitViper ok, using octogon shapes, 3" dia tubing, and 7, 7.5 and 8 foot octogon diameters (to outside points) there appears to be clearance, but not much
15:14 Cprossu damn I don't see a zozo around
15:14 Cprossu how is everyone today?
15:14 BitViper Cprossu !!!!!!
15:14 Andyroo Hey Cprossu
15:15 Cprossu hey BitViper and Andyroo no I ain't dead!
15:15 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yCIDkFI7ew the entire album is so good!, Danger Mouse made such a great job on it :)
15:15 Cprossu amazing, eh?
15:15 BotSteve Title: The Black Keys - Gold On The Ceiling [Official Video] - YouTube
15:15 yNos am good.. how are things at teh labzorz?
15:15 BitViper Cprossu we thought creepers had got ya
15:15 tonsofpcs tired
15:15 Cprossu packed full right now
15:15 Andyroo Huzzah!
15:15 Cprossu we got the wood turners here today
15:15 yNos packed? more people, or crap?
15:16 Cprossu people
15:16 yNos ahh
15:16 Cprossu the comp lab is looking...pretty good too
15:16 tonsofpcs so which CB has all the stuff that was being brought from pittsburgh?
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15:16 Monkeh Cprossu: arrrgh!
15:16 Cprossu we need to clean up the desks and workspaces but we're doing well
15:16 Monkeh I just opened this SFX PSU.. scary
15:16 dbshortwave heh
15:16 dbshortwave mornin
15:16 Monkeh Cprossu: Riddle me this: What max current is a 79L12 rated for?
15:16 Cprossu don't lick the cap leads
15:17 yNos good to hear, last i was down there, looked as if a bomb went off.
15:17 tonsofpcs L not LC?
15:17 Monkeh I can hardly even see the caps.
15:17 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: 79?!?!?!
15:17 Andyroo But it tastes like colors!
15:17 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, L. The TO92 package ones.
15:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Yes, 79
15:17 Experimentonomen 500mA
15:17 Electricguy for negative voltages
15:17 Experimentonomen or less
15:17 yNos 78 is pos.. 79 neg.. right?
15:17 dbshortwave x.x
15:17 Electricguy 78 is positive
15:17 Monkeh yNos: Yes
15:17 yNos or is that backwards?
15:18 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Try 100mA.
15:18 yNos ok
15:18 Monkeh So why is it supplying a 300mA -12V rail?
15:18 tonsofpcs 6.5mA
15:18 yNos my vreg.. a few zeners piled into a darlington..
15:18 Experimentonomen because the psu sux ?
15:18 Experimentonomen ;p
15:18 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Indeed
15:19 Cprossu http://www.futurlec.com/Datasheet/Linear/79L05.pdf
15:19 Cprossu weeee
15:20 Monkeh Cprossu: Excellent googling, sir
15:21 Monkeh https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R07_WNMTeBI/T5LQXIwizwI/AAAAAAAAAx8/BK9qDsi20MM/s720/IMG_20120421_161943.jpg
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15:22 Monkeh Cprossu's eye will immediately locate the second cap from the left in the middle
15:23 ajcc Darlington is a great name for a cat (Jeri's cat), and Mosfet too (LadyAda's cat) :)
15:24 mashpriborintorg wow that's a powerfull power brick I have here: 1,5 Vdc, 90mA :p
15:24 mashpriborintorg pretty useless
15:24 Monkeh mashpriborintorg: Plug-in AA replacement. :D
15:24 mashpriborintorg must be for a ladies shaver
15:26 Monkeh Cprossu: You got any DMS-59 adapters floating around over there?
15:30 Seroster BotSteve, Should I leave?
15:30 BotSteve Maybe
15:30 Seroster ...
15:30 Seroster I HATE YOU
15:30 Seroster Even I leave odd I don't
15:30 Cprossu Monkeh no I do not
15:30 Seroster .dice
15:30 BotSteve Seroster: 1
15:30 Monkeh BotSteve: Should Seroster leave?
15:30 BotSteve Absolutely
15:30 Monkeh Seroster: Off you go
15:31 Seroster ... You would just ask until I left, eh? P
15:31 Monkeh Damn straight
15:31 Monkeh Cprossu: Oh well.
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15:31 ajcc yNos: wow, the zener darlington solution was a really neat trick, thanks :)
15:32 Cprossu actually I take that back Monkeh
15:32 Cprossu I do have a few
15:32 Cprossu but the 'missing pin'
15:32 Monkeh Any DVI ones?
15:32 Cprossu is the thing that's inconsistant
15:32 Cprossu I have twin VGA, and at least one dual DVI
15:33 Monkeh Cprossu: DMS-59 always has the missing pin.
15:33 Andyroo BotSteve: Should Seroster stay for ever and ever and ever?
15:33 Monkeh Eh, I won't take your only DVI adapter
15:33 BotSteve Maybe
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15:33 Seroster I love you too Andyroo
15:34 Seroster Olol.
15:34 Monkeh Cprossu: If they have all 60 pins they're LFH
15:35 Monkeh Cprossu: Pretty sure they dropped the pin thanks to Matrox and Cisco using LFH for incompatible interfaces
15:35 Andyroo Easy Seroster, buy a girl a drink first :O
15:36 Cprossu Monkeh: wouldn't surprise me but we have full 60 pins, one pin out one pin to the side, and one that's two pins out from the side too
15:36 Monkeh Cprossu: Two from the side (pin 58) is DMS-59
15:37 Monkeh Cprossu: All 60 is LFH. I have no idea what missing pin 59 is.
15:37 Cprossu Monkeh: not two missing pins
15:37 Monkeh I know. A missing pin two pins from the end of the row. Pin 58.
15:37 Monkeh That's DMS-59
15:37 Cprossu why must they do this? =P
15:37 Monkeh Cprossu: To be annoying as hell.
15:38 Monkeh Cprossu: At least with things like d-subs with massive coaxial pins it's obvious.
15:38 Monkeh Pulling random pins is just plain annoying
15:38 dbshortwave batman in the obitron = epic!
15:38 ajcc they feel bad for radioshack?
15:40 Monkeh Cprossu: Any markings on those ones with pin 59 (I'm assuming 59, is it in the same row as the DMS-59 missing pin?)?
15:40 Monkeh And what's on the other end of the assembly?
15:42 Cprossu not paying attention to this for the moment Monkeh
15:43 BitViper sorry, i was distracting him
15:43 Monkeh Cprossu: No problem.
15:46 einball wups
15:46 einball einball iz teh rulerz
15:50 dbshortwave meh...
15:58 Seroster cya
15:59 JA12 .t utc
15:59 BotSteve 2012-04-21T15:59:47Z
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16:36 wannabe-zz .
16:36 Experimentonomen dot
16:36 wannabe-zz botsteve: tell seroster that that is astro73|roam arguing with boden in the video
16:36 BotSteve wannabe-zz: I'll pass that on when seroster is around.
16:39 Experimentonomen arguing with boden is futile, boden always wins :P
16:39 Experimentonomen Chris Bode, the ruler of the world!
16:39 ajcc I which the human stomach was capable of handeling sensible amounts of coffee.
16:40 wannabe-zz depends on what you call sensible...
16:40 Experimentonomen please do not drink coffee, its a poison that will shorten your life considerably
16:40 ajcc Experimentonomen: I do whatever I please to shorten my life, thank you!
16:49 ajcc Experimentonomen: but thanks for your consideration
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16:50 wannabe-zz ok bye!
16:50 ajcc bye
16:50 Experimentonomen cya
16:54 * Cprossu sips his coffee
16:54 ajcc :)
16:54 ajcc .cookie Cprossu
16:54 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
16:55 * Experimentonomen dilutes Cprossu's coffe 50% with chocolate to neutralize the poison
16:56 * Cprossu wonders how adding more caffeine to his coffee neutralizes the poison
16:56 * Cprossu pours a fresh cup and makes some hot chocolate too
16:57 ajcc Coffee and hot cocoa is a really nasty combination, tastes like dirt :/
16:57 Experimentonomen coffe by itself tasted like burnt shit and dirt :/
16:58 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Kinda nutty, eh?
16:58 Experimentonomen i tasted coffee once, was near death for the rest of the year
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16:59 ajcc once?!
16:59 ajcc once?!
16:59 Experimentonomen yes i got deadly sick
17:00 Monkeh ajcc: What, is it a taste which grows in you?
17:00 Monkeh And no, that's not a typo.
17:00 Druidic_Rifleman OK any one know in firefox what cause'sFlash to show a green screen?
17:00 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: Flash.
17:00 Druidic_Rifleman haha
17:01 ajcc Monkeh: yes, it's an acquired taste
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman any way to fix it?
17:01 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: Kill it and try again.
17:01 Monkeh Flash is unfixable, you can just work around it five times a day.
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman Is there away to restart it with out restarting my comp
17:02 Monkeh Open task manager, kill plugin-container.exe
17:02 Monkeh Look for the one using obnoxious amounts of RAM
17:03 ajcc tell Firefox to ask if you want to display the flash applets, then broken flash ads won't crash your flashplayer all the time
17:03 Monkeh Or just block ads in general
17:03 Monkeh Broken flash ads aren't the only problematic ads.
17:07 Monkeh I guess he couldn't figure that one out
17:08 ajcc I feel like having a nap, a juice box and a cookie
17:08 ajcc TO THE GROCERY STORE!
17:08 * ajcc &
17:08 Monkeh ajcc: Well tape a nap
17:08 Monkeh Er, take
17:08 Monkeh Can't TYPE ARGH
17:09 * Monkeh cuts his fingers off to punish them
17:09 * Sgt_Lemming tapes Monkeh cut off fingers to his forehead
17:09 Experimentonomen lol
17:09 * Experimentonomen lops Monkeh's hands off and runs them through a meat grinder
17:09 Experimentonomen ;p
17:10 * Monkeh stumps Experimentonomen
17:10 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I think it looked better on the breadboard, somehow: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Eo-e48aKMkc/T5DSYntNzEI/AAAAAAAAAxo/5fJj-x8rP0s/s800/IMG_20120420_040336.jpg
17:10 Monkeh Then again, that might just be because I've seen underneath it.
17:10 * Cprossu lowers the cone of silence and says "Hello"
17:11 Electricguy i see a crappy quad OP amp on that board
17:11 Electricguy what is it for?
17:11 Monkeh Electricguy: It works and was cheap, problem? :P
17:11 Electricguy it sux balls really hard for audio.. :P
17:11 Monkeh It's not audio
17:11 Experimentonomen Cprossu, why is rthis cpu thing called "pipeline" when its not even remotely related to a bigass pipe that transports oil or cas across continents ?
17:11 Electricguy works pretty good as a comparator though
17:12 Monkeh Electricguy: Let me find the schematic.
17:12 Electricguy oki, monkeh
17:12 Electricguy who types my nick all the friggin time :P
17:12 Monkeh I don't.
17:12 Monkeh I type 'el<tab>'
17:13 Monkeh Electricguy: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects-designs-and-technical-stuff/switching-pre-regulator-gp-power-supply/?action=dlattach;attach=22932;image
17:13 Experimentonomen the UA741 was originally designed for DC applications such as temp sensor amplifiers or linear regulators
17:13 Electricguy ok so it's a dummyload?
17:13 Monkeh Bingo
17:13 Electricguy oki
17:13 Experimentonomen why it ended up as the only opamp used in audio was because it was cheap
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17:14 Experimentonomen and at the time it was pretty muchy the only opamp available in that size of package
17:14 Electricguy lol.. the 741... nightmares!
17:14 Electricguy my bench PSU uses 741's
17:14 Electricguy 3 of them for each channel
17:15 Experimentonomen your pioneer amp has UA741's in it, if they say 4558 on them, their dual ua741's in one package
17:15 Electricguy it does?
17:15 Electricguy thats more than i know of.. lol
17:15 Experimentonomen some of the 4558 opamp datasheets even say their a dual ua741
17:16 Electricguy nowdays it just gathering dust
17:16 Experimentonomen oki
17:17 Electricguy i need to buy a pair of replacement mid drivers for our Cerwin Vegas
17:17 Electricguy one is pretty crudly fixed on the surround
17:17 Electricguy so, i need a pair of decent 5"midrange drivers pretty cheap
17:17 Electricguy gonna check hifikit..
17:20 Experimentonomen hifikit doesent seem to have anywhere near the kinda stock they had 10 years ago :/
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17:22 Experimentonomen i remember in "grundskolan" at the breaks reading the hifikit magazine from front to back over and over, drooling at all the big magnet subwoofer drivers
17:23 Experimentonomen yes i was a bass freak back then, my system was a big box with two 8" car subs and a tweeter, driven by one channel of the akain aa810 2x15w receiver
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17:30 epictang0 gmornign
17:32 SparkyProjects http://i44.tinypic.com/14uz56s.jpg
17:34 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, LOL xD
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17:39 Leepod I hurt. Wow my muscles ache
17:40 Leepod Wack my self on the leg on accident
17:40 Sgt_Lemming aww diddums
17:45 Cheezmo So I go to install Diablo 3 open beta and I see "Space required: 15.1GB"
17:45 Sgt_Lemming yes
17:45 Cheezmo I was clearing up space on my C: drive for it, but I'm at like 5GB
17:46 Cheezmo fuckin, it's going on the Windows 7 SSD :I
17:46 Sgt_Lemming install it on another drive then
17:46 Experimentonomen u dont installl games on the C drive, u use other partitions/drives for that :P
17:46 Cheezmo like 80GB on the SSD lol
17:47 Cheezmo I have an 80GB IDE, two 500GB and a 200GB Sata, and a 120GB Sata SSD
17:47 Cheezmo (HDDs) (showing free space), C: (No label) 8.54GB/74.5GB(11%), D: (No label) 132GB/465GB(28%), E: (No label) 186GB/465GB(40%), F: (No label) 135GB/186GB(72%), H: (System Reserved) 65.8MB/100MB(65%), I: (No label) 78.9GB/111GB(70%) (Local total) 542GB/1.27TB (41.6%)
17:47 Cheezmo nomnomnom, hard drive spam
17:47 Sgt_Lemming HDD's are generally only a bottle neck for loading games, not playing them
17:48 Cheezmo oh I know, but with 15.1GB, there's gonna be a lot of loading xD
17:48 Sgt_Lemming yeah, I don't have a script like that Cheezmo, but I have C: E: F: G: V: W: X: Y: Z:
17:48 Cheezmo nnScript :D
17:48 Sgt_Lemming so yeah, just a little bit of spammage if I did it
17:48 Cheezmo lol
17:49 Sgt_Lemming cbfscript
17:49 Sgt_Lemming not to mention all up I have about 12TB HDD space
17:49 Sgt_Lemming although most of that is in the file server
17:49 Sgt_Lemming btw, I've tried a few times today, not been able to get on the servers once >_<
17:49 Cheezmo I don't server, I just download a lot lol
17:50 Sgt_Lemming keep getting "servers are busy, please try again later"
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17:50 Sgt_Lemming Cheezmo, this servo is for my own personal use, and a little bit of streaming in the house
17:50 Cheezmo nice
17:50 Sgt_Lemming yeah
17:50 Sgt_Lemming it's also teensy :-P
17:51 Sgt_Lemming about half the size of a milk crate
17:51 Cheezmo wait, are those all partition drives then? or...?
17:51 Sgt_Lemming all the lower letters are partitions, all the higher letters are seperate drives
17:52 Sgt_Lemming the drives in the server are not raided for a number of reasons
17:52 Cheezmo so 6 drives?
17:52 Sgt_Lemming 5 drives in that machine, 2 in this one
17:52 Cheezmo ah
17:57 masterofmonks Cheezmo, You on DIII beta?
17:57 Cheezmo downloading currently
17:57 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, it's now an open beta
17:57 Sgt_Lemming been trying to get on but having no luck
17:57 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, I know.
17:57 masterofmonks Stress test mode.
17:57 masterofmonks I am on.
17:57 Cheezmo Cheezmo#1537
17:57 Cheezmo for when I get there :I
17:58 Sgt_Lemming you're not that old Cheezmo, unless that's days :-P
17:58 Cheezmo that's mah Battletag code
17:58 masterofmonks masterofmonk#1867
17:59 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, have you actually gotten on to play though?
17:59 masterofmonks Playing right now.
17:59 Sgt_Lemming BITCH!
18:00 Cheezmo lolz
18:00 Druidic_Rifleman ? would an orbitron made with like an octagon work?
18:00 Cheezmo I've got about an hour of DL time to go
18:00 Druidic_Rifleman or madefrom octagons
18:00 Sgt_Lemming Druidic_Rifleman, that is what they are trying to work out
18:00 Cheezmo Druidic_Rifleman, so long as they didn't hit each other, yes
18:00 Sgt_Lemming my brain says yes, but I can't guarantee it
18:01 Sgt_Lemming SgtLemming#1140
18:01 masterofmonks If you have troubel with it getting stuck on "Updating files" try moving the Diablo III folder from program files to the root of the drive.
18:01 Cheezmo I'm running a simulation in my head, though they would have to make a beefyu octagon
18:02 Cheezmo masterofmonks, that's where I'm installing to ;D
18:02 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, In all fairness I started the client download the moment they announced it.
18:02 Druidic_Rifleman sooo i have like 600 bucks...
18:02 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if my dad would get mad if i bought an M305...
18:03 Druidic_Rifleman i wish i could find an M1garand since i all ready have ammo
18:04 Sgt_Lemming in now masterofmonks
18:04 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, as a matter of fact I was standing at my station at work remoting into my gaming rig to start the download.
18:04 Sgt_Lemming just trying it out in SP atm
18:06 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, first impression, somewhere between Neverwinter Nights (the original) and Diablo II
18:06 Sgt_Lemming never played NN
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18:11 Cheezmo omgomgomg, D3 is about to hit the playable marker :D
18:11 Cheezmo and it did :D
18:11 Cheezmo yaaaay
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18:14 Cheezmo I would not call that playable :I
18:15 masterofmonks Cheezmo, Ehh?
18:15 Cheezmo the download progress
18:16 Cheezmo it claims playable, but I went to load it up and it was like "HNNNNNNNNGGGGG *crash*"
18:16 Cheezmo Might just let it load a bit more first
18:25 Experimentonomen that game sux ;p
18:25 masterofmonks Experimentonomen, Which game?
18:25 Experimentonomen crashy d3 ? :P
18:26 masterofmonks Hasn't crashed on me yet.
18:26 Experimentonomen maybe Cheezmo needs a better pc to run it then
18:27 Cheezmo (CPU) 6-AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor, 3199MHz (7% Load)
18:27 Cheezmo my cpu says otherwise
18:27 Cheezmo :P
18:27 Experimentonomen what about gpu and ram ?
18:27 Cheezmo to be honest, my rig is more powerful than I use it for
18:28 Cheezmo Radeon HD 5750 and 8GB DDR1333
18:28 Cheezmo my buddy has same GPU and does a lot on it
18:29 Experimentonomen the hd5750 needs a boatload of power, like 500 watts for the card alone
18:29 Cheezmo I've got a nice 600W
18:29 Cheezmo lemme double check
18:31 Experimentonomen i run a 400W psu with a 3.2GHz overclocked sempron 145 and a zotax gt440 and 16GB of DDR3 1333 ram, now this is nowhere near high performance stuff but its still right at the limit of what my psu can take
18:31 Experimentonomen if i pushed it with something like diablo 3, the psu would likely say "can't do that" and spit a flamethrower out the back of the case
18:32 Cheezmo lol
18:33 Experimentonomen just my dinky little gt440 which takes all its power from the pci-e bus still sez "minimum 300 watt system psu"
18:34 Cheezmo Deluxe budget Seasonic 620W PSU I has
18:34 Cheezmo http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=52174&amp;vpn=S12II%20620&amp;manufacture=Seasonic%20Electronics
18:34 BotSteve Title: Seasonic S12II 620W EPS12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80+ Bronze 6+8PIN PCI-E W/ 120MM Fan - Seasonic Electronics - S12II 620
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18:35 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, even just from the PCIe slot a card can draw 75 watts
18:35 Experimentonomen with the HD5750, i'd look for a 800-1000W psu, especially with something like a cpu like the phenom 2
18:35 Sgt_Lemming 75 watt for gpu, 100w for cpu, 10w for ram, 20w for motherboard, it all adds up pretty quickly
18:35 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, 600w will handle it just fine
18:36 Sgt_Lemming 800w if he had 2 cards mebe
18:36 Experimentonomen Cprossu said my psu was a gamble just for the cheap low performance stuff i bought
18:36 Sgt_Lemming there is no single GPU card that needs more than a 600w psu, unless you have an insane amount of HDD's etc
18:37 Experimentonomen ideally he'd liked to have a atleast 600W psu included too
18:37 Cheezmo PSU's are ovten oversized anyways
18:38 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/EFoiV <-- when a psu looks like that and has a 400W rating, expect it to blow up somewhere between 250-35 watts real power
18:38 BotSteve Title: axp psu - Imgur
18:38 Cheezmo my other comp I've got running on a 320 iirc
18:39 Experimentonomen 250-350*
18:41 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, that is fine for a 400w psu
18:42 Sgt_Lemming I've seen ones that just had plates of Alu with fins cut into it for heatsinks
18:42 Sgt_Lemming having actual proper heatsinks is a good sign
18:42 Cheezmo mmm, expanded metal heatsinks :P
18:42 Sgt_Lemming extruded...?
18:42 Sgt_Lemming not sure what you mean by "expanded"
18:42 Cheezmo nay, just the plates that are cut into fins
18:43 Sgt_Lemming kk
18:43 Sgt_Lemming also, you has a friend request
18:43 Cheezmo on BNet?
18:43 Cheezmo or D3?
18:43 Sgt_Lemming no, on weebo...
18:44 Sgt_Lemming of course on bnet you nong :-P
18:44 Sgt_Lemming from D3 with you battletag
18:44 Cheezmo noooo idea where to access frand requests xP
18:45 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, Class?
18:46 Sgt_Lemming Barb
18:46 Cheezmo I gosta run oot for a bit, I'll be back later o3o
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18:55 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, did the servers just go down for you as well?
18:55 masterofmonks Yep.
18:55 Sgt_Lemming fsck
18:55 Sgt_Lemming was just getting into it too>_<
18:55 masterofmonks Yeah, me too.
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18:56 masterofmonks So durring this bit of downtime, what do you think so far Sgt_Lemming?
18:57 Sgt_Lemming dunno if I am seeing the previous ones through rose coloured glasses or not
18:57 Sgt_Lemming but it seems a bit nerfed...
18:57 Sgt_Lemming like I'm level 5 or something like that, and already earning achievements for killing 7 enemies with one hit...
18:57 masterofmonks Nerfed how?
18:58 Sgt_Lemming easier
18:58 masterofmonks Have you gotten to the Fallen Star yet?
18:58 Sgt_Lemming already dual wielding, already doing massive amounts of damage
18:58 Sgt_Lemming in the cathedral when it died
18:58 masterofmonks Me too....
18:59 Sgt_Lemming "There is a temporary outage of the Battle.net servers. Please try again later" <--- GRR!
18:59 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, Same notice.
18:59 masterofmonks This is however why they call it a stress test.
18:59 Sgt_Lemming lemme know when they are back up
18:59 Experimentonomen i really thought astro73|roam was a guy! o_O
19:00 Experimentonomen assuming astro73|roam is the "girl" chris is yelling at about some facebook thing
19:01 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, It may just be that they made the learning curve a little less steep.
19:03 Sgt_Lemming yeah, nerfed it :-P
19:03 masterofmonks I am sure that it will get much much more difficult.
19:03 Sgt_Lemming I hope so
19:04 masterofmonks I mean, do you remember your first bloody hills run?
19:04 Sgt_Lemming err, not sure where you mean
19:04 masterofmonks Bloody foothills, right outside of Horogath.
19:04 Sgt_Lemming think so
19:05 masterofmonks Run up them in 8 player and get pwned while gettign massive exp.
19:05 Sgt_Lemming I remember going and killing Dark Raven, the corrupted archer chick in the graveyard
19:06 Sgt_Lemming she was a PITA
19:06 masterofmonks So far we have only seen the Corpsefire level of challenge I think.
19:11 Sgt_Lemming back on yet?
19:11 masterofmonks Nein.
19:11 Sgt_Lemming SHEIZE!
19:11 Experimentonomen impationt, lemming ? :P
19:12 Sgt_Lemming ya think?
19:12 Experimentonomen sounds like it ;p
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19:31 tonsofpcs who is set?
19:32 Experimentonomen why does onesizefitsall make me thing about condoms ? o_O
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19:32 Experimentonomen wb mash
19:34 Seroster I got a box :>
19:34 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
19:34 BotSteve At 16:36Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell seroster that that is astro73|roam arguing with boden in the video
19:34 Seroster 40-60-20
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19:42 * Experimentonomen packs Seroster in the box and sends it to sibiria ;p
19:42 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, spray on condoms!
19:43 DamianZ Spray on, rub off!
19:43 Experimentonomen spray on, fuck off ? xD
19:43 Sgt_Lemming spray on, rub out, peel off
19:43 * masterofmonks points to that other channel.
19:44 Sgt_Lemming servers back masterofmonks?
19:44 masterofmonks As of 30 seconds ago, no.
19:44 DamianZ I'm sure you could use Jeff to make that an interesting process.
19:44 Experimentonomen masterofmonks, does anyone actually ever use that other channel ?
19:44 DamianZ Sometimes.
19:44 masterofmonks Experimentonomen, Yes, and soon it will cease to be a suggestion I believe.
19:45 * DamianZ thinks that should be a RFC :D
19:45 Experimentonomen i believe thats the only time i've even been remotely close to NSFW
19:46 masterofmonks If certain forces get their way, there will be nothing in this channel that is not G rated.
19:46 CaptainNiobe that includes language.
19:46 masterofmonks Correct.
19:47 Experimentonomen atleast i dont swear unless its in response to someone who swears like a raging chris boden or worse
19:47 SparkyProjects Boden and Kidwell on stream
19:48 CaptainNiobe if this passes and chris swears, i kick. :P i don't care who he is, he obeys rules.
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19:48 wannabe-wrok how goes HV weekend?
19:48 DamianZ Rules are made to be broken :D
19:48 wannabe-wrok yes!
19:48 masterofmonks Hi wannabe-wrok
19:48 wannabe-wrok most anyway
19:48 wannabe-wrok some keep people safe
19:48 wannabe-wrok hi monks
19:48 Experimentonomen i'd pay to see chris's reaction to getting kicked from his own channel :P
19:48 mashpriborintorg hmmm looks like an Arduino related video shoot
19:49 Electricguy LOL! http://www.quiterly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/good-news-everyone.jpg
19:49 wannabe-wrok https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306567_176665605789105_148253091963690_266096_553175597_n.jpg
19:49 wannabe-wrok Experimentonomen: what?
19:49 Experimentonomen g'evenin miss wannabe
19:49 wannabe-wrok hi
19:50 Experimentonomen umm
19:50 CaptainNiobe way i see it, chriss constantly says, "i'm not a god". therefore, i will treat him just like i treat everyone else. that means if he deserves to be kicked, i will kick him.
19:51 DamianZ I'd kick a god too.
19:51 DamianZ But then I'm a bastard.
19:52 masterofmonks Damn the servers are still down.
19:52 CaptainNiobe lol... DamianZ, i am a bastard, literally... illegitimate child born of a one night stand with a married man. :D
19:53 DamianZ CaptainNiobe is full of fun... wait that doesn't quiet work.
19:53 CaptainNiobe ???
19:53 Experimentonomen oh man this latest cb is hilarios XD LOL
19:54 mashpriborintorg and these avionics parts seems awesome :p
19:55 Electricguy SPRAY ON CONDOMS!!!!
19:56 Experimentonomen mash, they got more avionics junk than you do now ;p
19:56 wannabe-wrok yes.  spray on condoms
19:56 wannabe-wrok you want some?
19:56 Electricguy sure!
19:56 * wannabe-wrok was too tired to spell her nick right
19:56 * wannabe-wrok grabs spary can
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19:56 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe-wrok
19:56 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe-wrok, I baked you a sugar cookie!
19:56 Electricguy lulz! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk39mr--PDw&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G2787886RVAAAAAAAAAQ
19:56 BotSteve Title: Is This a Power Supply or a Joke? - YouTube
19:57 mashpriborintorg sure, most of my parts are like the small ones you see of the floor in the cb, I have a very few of the larges blackboxes
19:57 mashpriborintorg did you see about the fake pfc coils in chinese computer psus ,
19:58 mashpriborintorg ?
19:58 Experimentonomen mash, i have one of those somewher
19:59 wannabe-wrok did yesterday's cb come out?  or just the radio one?
20:00 Electricguy i have not seen one after the spray on condom CB.. :P
20:00 mashpriborintorg seems it is becoming more and more common... chinese text but photos are self-explanatory: http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/294/294565_all.shtml
20:00 BotSteve Title: »¨Ç®Óַѵ磡Êг¡ÉÏ10¿î²»ÄÜÂòµÄµçÔ´_°ÙʵõçÔ´ÐÂÎÅ-ÅÝÅÝÍø
20:00 Experimentonomen wannabe-wrok, im watching the one where astro is getting the cheese grate by chris
20:00 wannabe-wrok ok
20:00 Electricguy hmmm
20:00 Electricguy link to that?
20:01 Experimentonomen its the latest one
20:01 Electricguy hmm
20:01 Experimentonomen same as the house paint condoms
20:01 Electricguy didn't notice a cheese grater in that
20:01 Electricguy cheese grate*
20:01 Experimentonomen with cheese grate i mean getting yelled at
20:01 Experimentonomen :
20:01 Experimentonomen :p
20:01 Electricguy oh
20:02 Electricguy yelled as in real yelling or roasting? :P
20:02 wannabe-wrok back to work!!!!!!
20:02 wannabe-wrok someones gotta work, right?
20:02 Electricguy have fun! ;)
20:02 Electricguy or, a fun as you possibly can
20:02 wannabe-wrok right.
20:02 Electricguy LOL @ "ZOMG OLD PERSONS" :P
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20:04 Electricguy Experimentonomen, do astro == the person getting toasted in the radio studio?
20:04 Experimentonomen yup
20:04 Electricguy ahh i see
20:04 Electricguy i'm pretty confused.. and i was most likely pretty tired.. is it a guy or a gal?
20:04 Electricguy ... XD
20:05 Experimentonomen gal i'd say
20:05 Electricguy myeah surely looks like it
20:05 Electricguy but i've heard people saying astro is a guy...
20:05 DamianZ He isn't?
20:05 mashpriborintorg I was not sure also :p
20:06 Experimentonomen astro sure sound like a gal too
20:06 Electricguy he really looks like a girl... :P
20:06 Electricguy yes, sounds like one too
20:06 DamianZ She sounds like a guy
20:06 Electricguy hmmm
20:06 * Electricguy 's mind is full of fuck right now
20:06 * Experimentonomen is just confused
20:07 * BitViper gets Electricguy a mind-condom
20:07 BitViper (spray on of course)
20:07 Electricguy thanks!
20:07 Electricguy very handy
20:07 ajcc I liked the dip idea better
20:08 Electricguy he really looks like a gal... hrrm..
20:08 Electricguy BitViper!! the condom leaks!
20:08 ajcc I first thought it was Liz without makeup
20:08 SparkyProjects I think Chris referred to Astro as 'jamie', sure it could be a girls name too
20:09 mashpriborintorg you didn't shake the spray container enough !
20:09 Electricguy yeah..
20:09 * Electricguy friend searchs for Jamies in Chris' profile
20:09 tonsofpcs wow, giant netflix banner on youtube...
20:10 ajcc wow, we are really taking this astro73 bash way to far
20:10 BitViper Electricguy : you must have overheated it
20:10 SparkyProjects gust found Astro's profile and it's James
20:10 ajcc come on, like we haven't been screaming in here before someone corrected us?
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20:11 mashpriborintorg bodens detected
20:16 * Electricguy found his profile too.. damn i swear i though he was a gal.. XD oops :P
20:16 SparkyProjects Quadcopter
20:17 Electricguy yeah that too!
20:17 ajcc http://youtu.be/6xdk8aQqrFU man now I want to sit down and make chiptunes about Alien :), got to love the little SID, so warm and awesome!
20:17 BotSteve Title: C64 Alien (1984) LIVE - SID Main Theme [LukHash] - YouTube
20:17 lwq_laptop thats it. the day i get a job where i can make enough to survive im moving out
20:18 ajcc moving out is like level warping, and getting a job is like entering the next level :P
20:21 Experimentonomen lwq_laptop, i said that every year since i was 12, it dident become reality until i was 25
20:21 masterofmonks lwq_laptop, Would you like fires with that?
20:22 lwq_laptop i would like to set fires
20:22 masterofmonks Fries*
20:22 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, You back on?
20:23 lwq_laptop i hate my families guts and want them to die
20:23 ajcc setenv ROOM fire
20:23 ajcc :/
20:27 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds77e3aO9nA <- here's some good inspiration to life, and computer geeking :)
20:27 BotSteve Title: A Narrative History of BSD, Dr. Kirk McKusick - YouTube
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20:36 Electricguy ok, the half junky Creative speakers are gone from my computer desk :)
20:36 Electricguy never used them anyways.. lol
20:36 Electricguy creative inspire T10 speakers with extra fluffy fluff in them :P
20:37 Experimentonomen did u blow them up ? :P
20:37 Electricguy nah
20:37 Electricguy just never use them. hehe
20:37 Electricguy thinking about making a boombox out of them
20:38 Experimentonomen that'd work
20:38 Electricguy like, put damn stong magnets in them and then make a metal center piece with a battery in it
20:38 Druidic_Rifleman METAL WORKING IS FUN!!!
20:38 Electricguy so i can snap them to the sides
20:38 Electricguy loke on a regular boombox
20:38 Electricguy metal working is a PITA XD
20:38 Electricguy like*
20:39 Experimentonomen and maybe integrate a mp3 player into the center part
20:39 Electricguy the T10's sound fairly decent and can play very loud with not THAT much power. pretty efficient speakers
20:39 Electricguy yeah sure why not
20:40 Electricguy then i may make a more permanent setup and actually screw the speakers to the center part
20:40 Experimentonomen i was thinking along those lines, taking out a wire from the 3.3V feed to the main cpu in the mp3 player and use that to turn the rest of the boombox on/off
20:40 Electricguy and make a hole in the side to pull the cabling through so there are no visible cables on the outside
20:40 Electricguy that's pretty clever!
20:41 Electricguy maybe i'll put in a ipod dock in the front
20:41 Electricguy io believe the ipods got a voltage output when switched on
20:42 Electricguy also, if i mod the speakers to run the cablers internally i can use the original DC input jack and audio in as charging jack and external audio in from another source
20:42 Experimentonomen im also planning to actually keep the tuner part of the boombox just so that the knob on the side and the scale thing still does something
20:42 Electricguy oki
20:43 tonsofpcs so someone said "omg it's a bell and howell" in the CB where they unload the truck << projector or caamera?
20:43 Experimentonomen too bad the zap died, it would have worked out pretty well for such mod
20:43 Electricguy are you building a aux in on a boombox?
20:43 Experimentonomen it actually had a line out on the back, but i think i'll put the heatsink for the amp in that slight recess
20:43 tonsofpcs Electricguy: why wouldn't you?
20:43 ajcc tonsofpcs: are the unloading stuff on the live stream?
20:44 tonsofpcs ajcc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM5ePgdHfAc
20:44 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 4-16-12 Incredible Pittsburg Donation - YouTube
20:44 ajcc ok
20:44 tonsofpcs idk what's live
20:44 Electricguy tonsofpcs, good question
20:44 Electricguy seriously, i didn't pay anything for these speakers.. and i really don't know wtf to do with them.. so i may make a boombox out of them
20:44 tonsofpcs Electricguy: Sony put aux-ins on their boomboxes and they didn't make anything smaller than a boombox as a portable audio source at the time...
20:44 Electricguy and put like a 4Ah lead acid battery in the center part
20:45 Electricguy tonsofpcs, i was asking if Exp did to his boombox
20:45 Electricguy however, i have made a internal aux in mod on a Sony boombox i got
20:45 Electricguy to take audio from a internal USB MP3 player i put in
20:46 Electricguy i simply cut the traces on the radio receiver board and put the MP3 player audio there instead
20:46 Electricguy and i also take power from the radio module to run the MP3 player
20:46 Electricguy so when i select radio on the boombox it starts the MP3 player instead
20:46 Electricguy got a video of it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-1-BplpEqU
20:46 BotSteve Title: Modified SONY boombox - YouTube
20:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: was htat a compaq portable I saw?
20:47 Electricguy got some sort of mindfuck and for some reason made that video before breakfast and everything..
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20:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you need a IIgs?
20:55 tonsofpcs wait, dante's in pennsylvania? i thought it was in ohio?
20:58 Electricguy fun fact. ipod/iphone cables fit in goppro cameras if you cut out a little notch in one end of the connector on the cable
20:59 tonsofpcs huh?
20:59 Electricguy the communication port on the back of gopro cameras
20:59 Electricguy you can use a apple cable to fit that jack
20:59 Electricguy it's aaalmost the same plug
21:00 Electricguy only one little notch missing on the apple one
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21:01 mashpriborintorg well, I go to sleep, bye
21:05 Electricguy nice remix of that song! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_SJe7DELxU
21:05 BotSteve Title: Cascada - Miracle (Darwin Remix) - YouTube
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21:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: chris is right.  PS/2 is not designed for hotplug.
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21:49 ajcc tonsofpcs: I've heard the manufactures made the PS/2 connectors hotplug friendly, since people pulled the keyboards and mices all the time anyway
21:50 ajcc might not be true at all
21:51 tonsofpcs ajcc: it will work on many modern machines but not all are happy about it.  I have an HP at work that basically has the same issues  as the original IBM PS/2 wrt the PS2 ports
21:52 * Electricguy want this played on his funeral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mg6wrYCT9Q
21:52 BotSteve Title: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz - YouTube
21:52 ajcc tonsofpcs: what issues did the IBM PS/2 have?
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21:55 ajcc Electricguy: I want to be an epic geek like Linus, and have a wife who's happy to sing along video game music tribues -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXj0TUzw5Ss
21:55 BotSteve Title: Still Alive! - YouTube
21:55 ajcc death can wait
21:55 Electricguy yeah Linus is damn awesome!
21:58 ajcc http://youtu.be/4O5tK0j-n24 here's a live concert with Linus playing his chipophone at Little Computer People 2011
21:58 BotSteve Title: Live at LCP 2011, part 1: Aztec Challenge and Spellbound - YouTube
21:58 ajcc enjoy your saturday evening :)
22:00 tonsofpcs ajcc: the system clock loops through the PS/2 bus iirc.
22:00 tonsofpcs you can even blow parts on the mobo and/or the keyboard by hotplugging
22:01 Electricguy :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw
22:01 BotSteve Title: ALESTORM - Keelhauled (Official) - YouTube
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22:01 masterofmonks Hellfire and damnation.
22:05 ajcc tonsofpcs: the PS/2's clock isn't static?
22:06 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming, Servers are back
22:08 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL65oumesqE&amp;feature=related
22:08 BotSteve Title: Alestorm - Captain Morgan's Revenge - YouTube
22:20 tonsofpcs Electricguy: played from a flyer system in an a4000?
22:20 Electricguy ?
22:21 tonsofpcs the amiga tribute
22:21 Electricguy oh
22:21 Electricguy no idea
22:21 tonsofpcs do you not know what a flyer is?
22:21 Electricguy nope
22:22 tonsofpcs do you know what a video toaster is?
22:22 Electricguy ehm.. no
22:22 ajcc video capture
22:23 Electricguy mkay
22:23 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Toaster#Video_Toaster_Flyer
22:23 BotSteve Title: Video Toaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:23 tonsofpcs ignore that 'later generations' section
22:24 Electricguy ooh! neat thing!
22:24 * masterofmonks hands Experimentonomen a cup of coffee.
22:25 * CaptainNiobe takes Experimentonomen's coffee, takes a sip, then hands it back to Experimentonomen
22:25 ajcc hehe, got no coffee today?
22:26 Electricguy lol
22:26 * CaptainNiobe hands ajcc and extra-large coffee
22:26 CaptainNiobe an*
22:26 Electricguy bedtime for the egg now! night all!
22:26 CaptainNiobe night Electricguy :)
22:26 tonsofpcs Electricguy: I've got a toaster2000 (original toaster), a toaster 4000, and a flyer (w/ a drive tower) in the next room
22:26 Seroster Any way of making minecraft rail turn?
22:26 ajcc CaptainNiobe: thanks :)
22:26 Electricguy yes
22:26 Ycarene I'm trying to listen to GGR and it's asking me for a user and password.
22:26 Experimentonomen *yawn* i'll goto bed too, nite peepz
22:26 Electricguy place regular rail in a 90 degree formation
22:26 Electricguy and it turns
22:27 Electricguy night all!
22:27 Seroster oo
22:27 tonsofpcs ajcc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_connector#Hotplugging even wikipedia has a brief explanation of symptoms but not really cause
22:27 BotSteve Title: PS/2 connector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:28 ajcc tonsofpcs: basically it says: the PS/2 controller never checks to see if there's another device attached, and just keep on talking to it
22:29 CaptainNiobe Ycarene: the ggr is apparently down
22:29 Ycarene oh, ok, same for the video feed?
22:29 CaptainNiobe checking
22:29 ajcc it's on the video set now
22:30 ajcc studio set
22:30 CaptainNiobe no music on the stream, no
22:30 tonsofpcs ajcc: there's termination issues on the i/o (data and clock) busses.  some machines just run the system clock in parallel (or *gulp* serial w/ parallel bypass) to it and the change in termination can make ths system hang or do other wonky things
22:30 tonsofpcs (including frying components)
22:33 ajcc tonsofpcs: no, the PS/2 doesn't use the system clock at all. when they keyboard/mouse transsmit, it generates it's own clock. I think the issue is related to overloading or short circuiting the poor IC. it might be a short circuit in some state as well, don't know.
22:34 ajcc but basically you're right about that it's a bad idea to hotplug PS/2 devices
22:35 tonsofpcs i don't have a real ps/2 to check exactly how it's wired,b ut i know it's wired silly.
22:36 ajcc probably :)
22:37 tonsofpcs I'm sure if I asked around the area, I could probably find someone who knows in excruciating detail how it is wired....
22:37 ajcc there's a lot of PS/2 users out there, there's probably a full schematic of it at many places, if one want to study it
22:38 tonsofpcs I mean the IBM Personal System 2, not the bus.
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22:38 tonsofpcs the original reference impleementation, if you will
22:38 ajcc I'm also talking about the IBM PS/2
22:38 yNos just passed a church sign that read "take the wheel. jesus!"
22:38 tonsofpcs there's people who use it?!
22:39 tonsofpcs lol yNos.  stop texting and driving and take the wheel :-p
22:39 ajcc yep, those are reliable machines
22:40 yNos i am not driving.. my sister is.
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22:43 lwq_laptop i got 20dollars today to go around an old ladies yard and weed wack it
22:44 tonsofpcs ajcc: outside of industrial control, i don't know where you would see one still in use today...
22:44 ajcc lwq_laptop: it's progress!
22:45 lwq_laptop its money im going to save for when i go on my trip on the 2nd
22:45 ajcc tonsofpcs: I was talking about enthusiasts, but I've seen the higher end PS/2 systems out in the wild once or twice, serving up compability and access to the older systems
23:01 tonsofpcs ajcc: so apparently the "Keyboard and Auxilliary Device Controller" governs the clock and data for the keyboard (and auxilliary devices).  When input is detected, the controller holds the system...
23:01 ajcc isn't that an interupt request?
23:02 ajcc when you press a key, the controller will physically pull a pin high/low on the CPU, tell it to drop the dishes and go get the input
23:03 tonsofpcs the way it's written in this document, it's an actual interrupt not a request... there's a "system microprocessor reset" bit as well as twoo IRQs (01 and 12)
23:03 tonsofpcs ajcc: on a modern system, yes.  On an old system, it appears that *any* communication to/from the devices will do that.
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23:05 tonsofpcs and an un(der)terminated data line and/or clock line could very easily make the KADC (I refuse to write it out at every reference) 'see' communication
23:05 tonsofpcs as the eye would close and trigger at a rate higher than is possible by an actual device, resulting in a perpetual lock
23:06 ajcc unterminated ps/2 data/clock lines would be high/floating, they have to be grounded to make the controller wait to recive
23:06 tonsofpcs it'
23:07 tonsofpcs s a transitional interface
23:07 tonsofpcs oh, and data is bidirectional
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23:11 tonsofpcs output high is 5 V (minus pullup), output low is 0.5V.  Input high is 2.0V, input low is 0.8V
23:12 tonsofpcs with a 5us (minimum) transition and a 50us (maximum) active/inactive pulse width [from transition to the same point on the next transition]...
23:12 ajcc yes, pull-up <--- the pullup resistors is the only thing that can actually make the lines high. if both devices talk at the same time, if one of them is pulling the line low, the other one can't bright it high, never ever
23:14 tonsofpcs http://www.mcamafia.de/pdf/ibm_hitrc07.pdf <
23:14 ajcc which page?
23:14 tonsofpcs the whole thing
23:14 tonsofpcs that's the KADC
23:15 ajcc ok
23:15 tonsofpcs also, apparently it can password protect the keyboard interface in a pisspoor manner
23:15 ajcc do you know what the pullup resistor does?
23:15 tonsofpcs yay CMOS.
23:15 ajcc what?
23:16 ajcc no
23:16 tonsofpcs (prevents a short)
23:17 ajcc http://www.computer-engineering.org/ps2protocol/ps2.JPG <- this is the ps/2 interface
23:17 ajcc in hardware
23:17 ajcc those two resitors pull the line high, the transistors pull it low.
23:21 tonsofpcs are those supposed to be not-gates or buffers?
23:22 ajcc not-gates have a little ring on it's point
23:22 ajcc so those are buffers
23:22 tonsofpcs poor drawings tend to leave things out or draw them wrong.
23:23 ajcc that's the truth of life right there, tonsofpcs :)
23:23 tonsofpcs like the 5V and 'GND' lines that run to the keyboard and where they're fed from
23:23 tonsofpcs like the other side of the controller....
23:24 ajcc yes, this is where I say: the 5V and GND have tiny fused on them on the PS/2, those are surface mounted and insanely hard to replace
23:25 ajcc PS/2 the computer that is
23:26 tonsofpcs it also leaves out the controller on the keyboard itself and how it likes to interface and (what I think is part of the issue here) why all the LEDs turn on as you plug the keyboard in
23:28 ajcc the microcontroller inside the keyboard initializes?
23:28 tonsofpcs I want to slap the person that wrote the article that picture is from, btw
23:28 ajcc it's software might wait for something, it might reset with all pins high or low, who knows? :)
23:28 ajcc ok?
23:31 tonsofpcs oh well, time to order dinner and go pick it up, bbiab
23:34 einball iam awesome :)
23:34 tonsofpcs you am?
23:34 einball no pm here
23:34 einball :P
23:36 tonsofpcs I'm not sure what to order from chinese place.... I really liked the Beef w/ Hot Green Pepper I got last time but I kinda want to try something different...
23:37 ajcc Tofu!
23:37 tonsofpcs ajcc: (1) tofu isn't a dish (2) ewwww
23:38 tonsofpcs that said, I wonder what "mapo tofu" is
23:38 ajcc let me rephrase that: order something with tofu in it, it's tasty!
23:39 ajcc tonsofpcs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapo_doufu
23:39 BotSteve Title: Mapo doufu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:39 tonsofpcs yea, I can google it too :-p
23:40 tonsofpcs interesting, but tofu still freaks me out
23:41 ajcc don't ask if you're googeling it :)
23:41 tonsofpcs I didn't ask.  I said that I wondered :)
23:41 ajcc what's with #thegeekgroup and needing insanely accurate definitions and phrasings?
23:41 tonsofpcs http://www.moonstarac.com is where I'm ordering from, btw
23:41 BotSteve Title: Moon Star
23:42 ajcc do like Chris: yeah! <-, se, that takes care of 15 minutes of #thegeekgroup crap talk
23:42 * ajcc &
23:42 tonsofpcs ?
23:43 Seroster SparkyProjects, is there any way of making the SSG less noisy?
23:43 Seroster I got a nice enclosure today...
23:43 Seroster 40x60x20 cm, thinking about putting my xformers, cap bank and SSG in it
23:44 SparkyProjects I don't know if using a vacuum SSG would help, or maybe a multi gap, but gaps are always going to be noisy
23:44 tonsofpcs SSG?
23:46 SparkyProjects A multi gap is a series of 'plates' between the main gap, the total distance of all the gaps would be the same as the original gap, and sort of breaks upt the big spark
23:46 Seroster Crud
23:46 SparkyProjects A vacuum SSG is where you suck the air across the gap
23:46 Seroster Aye
23:46 Seroster blower would be easier
23:46 tonsofpcs wouldn't that create unintended capacitance (the multigap)?
23:47 Seroster Not more than in the wires
23:47 tonsofpcs how about putting it in a physical structure to dampen the sound?
23:47 Seroster Ya, hence putting it in a box
23:48 * tonsofpcs has a thought on that but already ordered his food and needs to run tto pick it up
23:48 Seroster Is ozone flammable?
23:48 tonsofpcs bbs
23:48 Seroster The box is like IP 65, splash and drip proof.
23:48 SparkyProjects Like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU39e4HXiFk
23:48 SparkyProjects You can build it on a flat surface if you want
23:48 BotSteve Title: How to build a Multi Gap Static Spark Gap (For use on Tesla Coils) - YouTube
23:49 Seroster :)
23:50 tonsofpcs http://www.moonstarac.com/products.html
23:50 BotSteve Title: Moon Star
23:51 tonsofpcs bah
23:51 tonsofpcs silly pastebuffer
23:51 tonsofpcs http://www.acoustiblok.com/
23:51 BotSteve Title: Soundproofing | Soundproofing Materials
23:51 tonsofpcs ^^
23:51 tonsofpcs I want some of that to play with
23:51 Seroster Yeah... If i had cash.
23:52 Seroster SparkyProjects, I thought of heavy wool fabric. I just wonder if the ozone will create a fire hazard within the box
23:52 SparkyProjects See if you can get some rockwool
23:52 tonsofpcs Seroster: put that box inside another box with a gap and soft spacers (minimally physically coupled)
23:53 Seroster I REALLY want to avoid rockwool.
23:53 SparkyProjects why ?
23:53 Seroster tonsofpcs, I herd u liek boxes os I put a box in yo box
23:53 SparkyProjects It's made of rock :P
23:53 Seroster Nasty shit, I don't want it in my apartment =P
23:53 tonsofpcs .g room within a room
23:53 SparkyProjects Much better that fibreglass
23:53 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-articles/room-within-a-room/
23:53 tonsofpcs ^^ same idea, only backwards :)
23:58 Seroster There are a few things I prefer not to mess with, SparkyProjects, Cancirogens, poisons, asbestos and rockwool.
23:59 SparkyProjects Yet you play with MOT's :P

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