Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-04-24

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00:00 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
00:01 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
00:01 Toastdude Wannabe!
00:01 * wannabe1987 is childsitting
00:01 Toastdude Oooh!
00:08 DruidicRifleman why are you weenwatching?
00:10 Toastdude What's going on in the livestream?
00:11 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman: she's my sister
00:11 wannabe1987 also idk
00:11 wannabe1987 and how do you fix a dymo label maker's screen?
00:11 SparkyProjects Toast, looks like they're setting up to show tgg and CB vids out of hours
00:11 SparkyProjects Might attract more members
00:12 tonsofpcs screen?
00:13 SparkyProjects They ar using a computer
00:13 wannabe1987 where you see the letters
00:14 SparkyProjects What's wrong with the screen ?
00:14 tonsofpcs oh, egrsteve is probably tweaking the scan converter (unless he already did)
00:14 Toastdude Which CB is this?
00:15 tonsofpcs 04/21
00:15 tonsofpcs about 9 or 10 minutes in
00:15 SparkyProjects Toast, the last one, 'synergy'
00:15 Cprossu anyone know of a way to play youtube in order? ;)
00:15 wannabe1987 make a playlist?
00:15 Cprossu too lazy for a test run
00:15 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ask CB for the videos and use VLC?  (alternatively, pull the real  video links and use VLC)
00:16 Cprossu true.
00:16 SparkyProjects In the last version of YT, you could order the playlist how you want, but doesn't seem to work properly
00:16 Cprossu I think we need to change our resolution
00:16 tonsofpcs why?
00:16 Cprossu at least it_s sort of wroking
00:16 Cprossu we're outputting 16:9 I think
00:16 Cprossu or close...
00:16 Cprossu wait wtf!
00:16 tonsofpcs and it's getting letterboxxed
00:16 Cprossu screensaver!
00:16 Cprossu ROFL
00:17 tonsofpcs also, screensaver off
00:17 tonsofpcs wtf kinda nerd are you :-p
00:17 tonsofpcs ubuntu bubbles
00:17 Cprossu one who threw some stuff together quickly
00:17 Cprossu this was a customer rig ($45 computer)
00:17 tonsofpcs heh
00:17 tonsofpcs first thing to a new install: turn off fancy gfx, audio, and similar
00:20 Experimentonomen nite peepz
00:20 tonsofpcs g'nite
00:21 wannabe1987 my screwdrivers are all the wrong size :/
00:21 Cprossu how are we doing now? lol
00:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck?ob=0 << "Play all"
00:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: offline
00:21 Cprossu hrmmm
00:22 Cprossu looks good to me
00:22 Cprossu lots of tearing though
00:22 Cprossu and the audio just sucks
00:22 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: You have to be aware that if you're taking the dymo apart, the screen probably makes contact with the bard via conductive rubber strips
00:22 tonsofpcs reloads
00:23 Cprossu poor P4
00:23 tonsofpcs Cprossu: looks fine
00:23 wannabe1987 so.....i shouldn't, sparky?
00:23 Cprossu should be a p4 2.8
00:24 SparkyProjects It's up to you, i was just making you aware
00:24 wannabe1987 dads home, so i can't anymore....:P
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00:29 Si235 joined #thegeekgroup
00:30 Toastdude Hi Si235
00:30 lwq1996 http://www.wow-what.com/view.php?fid=8327&amp;ref=nf
00:32 Toastdude lol
00:32 tonsofpcs especially if you've been drinking.
00:33 Cprossu though  there are pizza's that just SUCK
00:33 Cprossu they have to really try hard though
00:34 JA12 http://blog.makezine.com/2012/04/18/soapbox-counterfeit-open-source-hardware-knock-offs-101/
00:34 tonsofpcs Cprossu: let's leave dominos out of this, k?
00:34 Cprossu little ceasers?
00:34 Cprossu Pizza hut?
00:34 Cprossu all cardboard.
00:35 Cprossu and I knew a local place which nearly everyone left violently ill
00:35 tonsofpcs little ceasers is fine
00:35 tonsofpcs pizza hut is seaweed
00:35 Cprossu papa johns is meh
00:35 Cprossu Ray's from new york is what I like =P
00:36 Cprossu (you could ask which Ray's though lol)
00:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: dude, you're in NYC, it doesn't matter where you get pizza unless the place is less than a  month old.
00:36 tonsofpcs if it isn't good, it won't last a month.
00:37 Cprossu yes but in Phoenix, AZ we have less of a selection
00:37 Cprossu so 'rays from new york' is the next best option
00:38 tonsofpcs place about 1.7 miles away > place about 1.2 miles away > place down the street > papa johns > little ceasers > the area's two 'local' pizza chains > pizza hut > ... > dominos
00:40 Cprossu papa johns depends on the establishment I've found
00:40 n1mjf Lombardi's Pizza is the best pizza. I'm sure cprossu would agree.
00:40 Cprossu the one that delivers to my home sucks.
00:40 tonsofpcs local places here don't deliver
00:40 Cprossu so we do a arry out to the other one
00:40 tonsofpcs new chinese place delivers though :)
00:40 Cprossu which doesn't suck at all
00:41 Cprossu I understand the chinese up there rocks
00:41 tonsofpcs the new one here is awesome
00:41 tonsofpcs (well, not exactly new, they were flooded, rebuilt a bigger and better place)
00:42 tonsofpcs that said, Wo Hop on Mott st (the one downstairs, not the one at street level)
00:42 n1mjf Cprossu, have you tried Lombardi's Pizza on Spring St?
00:42 Cprossu so tonsofpcs we're gearing up to do the wheatstone finally
00:42 tonsofpcs yay
00:42 Cprossu only took a year
00:42 Cprossu we've got real mic cable ;)
00:42 tonsofpcs you knoww it only needs like 15 more DB25s, right?
00:43 Cprossu we're gonna do a bulk order on solderables and do it nice we think
00:43 tonsofpcs real mic cable being?
00:43 Cprossu belden something or other, ask egrsteve when  he gets back
00:43 Cprossu real mic cable as in not solid cat5
00:43 tonsofpcs 87something?
00:43 Obtuse so you radio lovers ... I do a show on www.areciboradio.com
00:43 Obtuse called the 8 bit power hour
00:43 Obtuse its on now!
00:44 tonsofpcs I don't drink beer...
00:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 8451 or 9451?
00:44 Obtuse come listen to Chiptune music
00:44 Cprossu nice Obtuse. I need to finish rebuilding the radio pc... in typical ME fashion the hdd failed and we didn't have the backup
00:44 Cprossu tonsofpcs the box is locked up for now
00:44 Obtuse :(
00:45 wannabe1987 hey cpro - back up the hdd next time :)
00:45 tonsofpcs do those sound familiar?
00:45 tonsofpcs Obtuse: link to stream?
00:45 Cprossu wannabe1987 I didn't get the chance
00:45 wannabe1987 btw i'm leaving here soon, will be back at the lab eventually :)
00:45 wannabe1987 no, after you get it up and running
00:45 Cprossu we built the rig practically on the air lol
00:45 Obtuse www.areciboradio.com
00:45 Cprossu wannabe1987 I am gonna build a near replica of it
00:45 wannabe1987 good
00:45 Cprossu mostly so I can screw around with a few programs
00:45 tonsofpcs Obtuse: the direct stream link?
00:46 Obtuse http://areciboradio.com/listen.pls
00:46 tonsofpcs danke
00:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I just got a spool of 9451
00:46 Obtuse i don't actually get on the mic till 9
00:47 Obtuse i just like to play some chip music before my show
00:47 Obtuse get people ready
00:47 egrsteve hello
00:47 tonsofpcs distorting here
00:47 tonsofpcs hi steve!
00:47 tonsofpcs 8451 or 9451?
00:47 Obtuse should not be distorting
00:48 egrsteve hello tons
00:49 tonsofpcs *insert complex math explanation of why your true peaks should be around -5dBFS before going through MP3 coding here*
00:49 Cprossu egrsteve: trivia question of the moment: belden part number of our mic cable?
00:50 egrsteve no idea
00:50 egrsteve not sure if it is belden
00:50 egrsteve in fact I know the stuff in robotics isn't
00:50 tonsofpcs egrsteve: two tinned conductors, twisted, with a drain run adjacent and foil around?
00:51 tonsofpcs about 1/8" dia?
00:51 tonsofpcs similar to what was on the prewired connectors?
00:52 egrsteve basicly
00:53 tonsofpcs yea, that's 9451 or 8451
00:53 egrsteve std install type mic wire
00:53 tonsofpcs (the outter sheath is different between the two)
00:53 tonsofpcs you can heatshrink the drain to punch it, if needed
00:53 egrsteve good to know
00:53 tonsofpcs (i think you'll see I did that on a few)
00:54 Obtuse tonsofpcs, what this about peaks being at -5db before the encoder?
00:54 egrsteve we are thinking we might directly to patch bays using mostly normals as we don't have enough 66 (or 110) type punch panels
00:55 tonsofpcs egrsteve: there were enough 66 blocks for everything when I was there, we just didn't harvest them....
00:55 egrsteve I know not as propper but working with what we have resonably it will work
00:55 tonsofpcs well, the 66s aren't "as proper"
00:56 egrsteve I am hoping to be able to populate most of the board to patch bays
00:56 tonsofpcs do you have enough patch bays?
00:56 egrsteve yes
00:56 egrsteve we have 8-10 of them
00:57 tonsofpcs check the google docs documentation
00:57 egrsteve which is plenty for all inputs send/recieve ect
00:57 egrsteve at least of the mono channels
00:57 egrsteve I need to clean them still
00:57 tonsofpcs remember that there's 3 inputs per fader (2 mics and a line) that I was wiring but there's actually more...
00:58 tonsofpcs so that's 3 patch bays just for the monos
00:58 egrsteve 2 mic 1 line, send /return
00:58 egrsteve thats what I am planing for mono
00:58 egrsteve stereo has 4 line in each
00:58 tonsofpcs stereo will take two patch bays * 4
00:59 egrsteve + send/returns
00:59 tonsofpcs so 8 + 3 = 11 without sends/returns
00:59 egrsteve not sure if I will do all 4 stereo ins maybe just 2 for now
00:59 egrsteve either way it should be close
01:00 tonsofpcs remember that you'll be more likely to patch line ins than mic ins and that I was planning on using either all of A or all of B as a snake to toss into the studio(s)
01:00 tonsofpcs (I'm not sure if you're still planning that)
01:00 egrsteve thats true
01:00 egrsteve I think it will get normaled to a snake to the studio
01:00 tonsofpcs like, there's no reason for the one that's going to be the snake to be in a patch bay and the other mics seem like a wasted patch bay
01:00 egrsteve on A or b in time
01:01 tonsofpcs actually, a trick for mic snakes:
01:01 egrsteve I will have to count patchbays when I am there next
01:01 egrsteve ok...
01:03 tonsofpcs make a bunch of four-input boxes and a couple of two-output boxes, each four-input (4x XLR-F) box gets one piece of STP (or SFTP or FTP) run back -- tie all the pin 1s to the shield -- and you can run phantom; the output boxes can run on a single piece of UTP, they're just in twos for ease of movement
01:03 tonsofpcs then you don't have one monolithic snake and you can move things around
01:03 egrsteve it's the same idea as that instant snake product
01:03 tonsofpcs if you want to make it patchable, get shielded RJs and put jacks in each studio and a RJ patch panel in the patch rack
01:03 egrsteve thats an idea
01:03 Cprossu that's not a bad idea at all
01:04 tonsofpcs if you don't ever need phantom, you don't need the shielding (although you might want it with your friendly neighborhood AM)
01:04 egrsteve mn-1291_1292_Remote.pdf
01:04 egrsteve http://deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/Ethernet-Category-5e-CAT-5e-RJ45-Plugs-Boots/Shielded-CAT-5E-RJ45-plug-for-stranded-STP-cable-50-micron-bag-of-100
01:04 tonsofpcs then you can just put 6x (or more) RJs in each studio space and run them up top, make a few short snakes
01:04 egrsteve hmm, copy paste issue here
01:05 tonsofpcs welcome to linux :)
01:05 tonsofpcs (also, the way firefox deals with the copybuffer)
01:05 egrsteve http://deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/Ethernet-CAT5e-RJ45-Keystone-Connectors/Shielded-Cat-5E-Keystone-Jack-110-Punch-Type
01:05 egrsteve not in linux or Firefox ;)
01:05 egrsteve unix, opera
01:05 tonsofpcs what unix?
01:06 egrsteve osX
01:06 tonsofpcs ah, BSD
01:06 egrsteve so bsd
01:06 tonsofpcs tell darwin I said hi
01:06 egrsteve http://deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/CAT5e-Ethernet-Cable-Shielded-Solid/Ethernet-Shielded-CAT5e-Gray-1000ft-Bulk-350Mhz-STP-PVC-Stranded-Cable
01:06 egrsteve will do
01:07 egrsteve that would be my shopping list to do cat 5 snakes
01:07 tonsofpcs a real shield would be nicer thaan foil, but it'd work
01:07 egrsteve which I do want to do around the building
01:07 egrsteve a real braid would be nice but $$
01:08 tonsofpcs well, remember that you only need the shield as a potential reference for phantom, you don't really need a 'shield'
01:08 egrsteve true
01:08 tonsofpcs it's easiest to do on the snakes themselves as a shielded cable, but with wall jacks there may be another method
01:09 tonsofpcs (solder all together and use an additional runner? idk, might be more expensive, might be less... is 7x runs of UTP cheaper than 6x runs of STP? how about 5x+1x?)
01:09 egrsteve idk
01:09 tonsofpcs I'm just guessing at 6 in a panel
01:09 tonsofpcs mostly cus a single-gang holds 6 easily ;)
01:10 egrsteve I would start with 4 channel snakes and maybe put a couple around the studio
01:10 tonsofpcs you could probably get away with 2x FTP and 4x UTP to each panel
01:10 tonsofpcs I have an 8-input snake box that I built inside one of those plastic project enclosures
01:10 tonsofpcs my 4-in and 4-out cat5 snakes are just XLRs hanging on a piece of cat5
01:10 egrsteve or a 2 gang electical box with keystone plate
01:11 egrsteve and a bushing for the cat5 entry
01:11 tonsofpcs (used to move AES around the building when I'm doing testing, mostly, but I might be using them for analog audio tomorrow)
01:13 egrsteve I wonder how much current does a sony betacam w/o tape threaded draw?
01:13 tonsofpcs depends on voltage, probably
01:13 tonsofpcs (4-pin supply?)
01:13 egrsteve I could do a yes
01:14 egrsteve *yes
01:14 egrsteve 12V
01:14 tonsofpcs note: 4-pin supply is only really 2 pins on a 4-pin connector.
01:14 egrsteve I know
01:14 egrsteve 1-2A or more?
01:14 tonsofpcs probably.  (not being helpful here, I know -- remind me at work on wednesday to go manual digging ;)
01:15 egrsteve or I can just measure one when I have time
01:15 tonsofpcs although idk if I have any books from any 'camcorder' or docked-deck types, might only be separate
01:15 tonsofpcs yea, but that'd take the guesswork out of it!
01:15 tonsofpcs oh, right, go ahead then ;)
01:15 egrsteve I want to know if I can make a power, video, genlock snake out of cat5
01:15 egrsteve for composite
01:16 egrsteve as that would make life easy
01:16 tonsofpcs installed or camera <> wall?
01:16 egrsteve have a wall box with PSU and feed power up the cat5
01:16 tonsofpcs Installed, I'd run the power separate (and likely generate it locally at the wall, just make a hookup mechanism)
01:17 egrsteve thats what I was thining
01:17 egrsteve have a cat 5 run to the wall, add power then send to the camera on one cable
01:18 tonsofpcs camera<>wall... hmm... might be easier (and cheaper maybe?) to get VGA cable (or similar), it's got two coaxes in it so you can balun at the wall and should have enough current carrying capacity in the remaining cable
01:18 egrsteve that would work too
01:18 tonsofpcs actually, three coaxes! prompter and/or air return!
01:18 egrsteve if I strip a beta deck I can fit the baluns and such in it
01:18 tonsofpcs 13W3 anyone?
01:19 tonsofpcs you could also do what wheatstone does for their modern PSUs...
01:20 tonsofpcs http://www.mynetimages.com/bbb551d37a.jpg - imagine like a 13W3 but instead of coaxs you have big pins and big sockets... if you could get 3 'pins' of coax and 2 of power....
01:21 egrsteve sounds harder to source parts
01:21 tonsofpcs they're actually some sort of standard
01:21 tonsofpcs the pins and sockets appear to go into the same holder as the coaxes in 13W3 style connectors
01:22 egrsteve anyway, I need to take some current measurments, and come up with a solution
01:22 egrsteve but now time for dinner
01:22 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
01:23 tonsofpcs if only neutrik ethercon had an additional pin (beyond the 9th 'shell' pin)
01:25 tonsofpcs egrsteve: for the premise runs: http://deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/CAT5e-Ethernet-Cable-Shielded-Solid/Ethernet-CAT5e-Outdoor-Direct-Burial-Fully-Shielded-500ft-Bulk-350Mhz-FTP-Solid-Cable-Black no reason not to use solid, it punches better too...
01:25 tonsofpcs oh, wait, that's 500', nevermind
01:26 tonsofpcs anyway, you can get 6-keystones in single-gang
01:28 tonsofpcs egrsteve: just run this stuff everywhere, future-proof: http://deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/Multimedia-Cable-Composite-Ethernet-Coaxial-Fiber-Optic-Cable/ProFusion-Unjacketed-Multimedia-Cable-Honeywell-2xCat-5e-2xRG6-2-FDDI-Fibers-500ft- ;)
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01:33 wannabe|tgg so whats going on tonight?
01:34 tonsofpcs Cprossu is making magic on the video livestream
01:35 Cprossu apparently
01:35 wannabe|tgg o really
01:35 wannabe|tgg how so?
01:35 Cprossu I haven't touched a thing since setting it up so it's good
01:35 tonsofpcs idk, i is watching house
01:36 wannabe|tgg idk i just got to the lab
01:36 Cprossu I'm just happy the damn thing hasn't crashed or anything
01:36 Cprossu tonsofpcs: our scando's are running off an ATX power supply now
01:37 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I saw egrsteve working on one (and syaing the smartest thing ever said ina  CB)
01:37 lwq1996 did you replace the thing in mc that was causing the problem?
01:37 Cprossu lwq1996: the mackie? not yet working on it
01:37 Toastdude Hi lwq1996
01:37 Cprossu hence the duscussion prior.
01:37 lwq1996 yes the mackie couldnt think of the name
01:37 wannabe|tgg wtf is a "mackie"
01:37 Cprossu *discussion
01:37 tonsofpcs Cprossu: in all due respect, screw the mackie
01:38 tonsofpcs wannabe|tgg: the 12-input mixer iin the rack in MC
01:38 lwq1996 the thing that makes the stream happen
01:38 Cprossu tonsofpcs: it's going to live a long livestream free life
01:38 lwq1996 TOAST
01:39 Cprossu the deguassing coils in these hitachi CM815's sure have stones
01:40 tonsofpcs ya
01:40 tonsofpcs '?
01:40 Cprossu tonsofpcs I think it's a 16 in ain't it?
01:40 Cprossu well either way noisy and hard to work on
01:40 egrsteve yes, 16 channel noise maker
01:40 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the mackie? it's a "1604" or something, but it's mackie-16, so it's 12.
01:40 Cprossu haha
01:40 tonsofpcs screw counting stereo inputs as two inputs
01:41 egrsteve it has no stereos
01:41 Cprossu it has stereo in?!
01:41 tonsofpcs it doesn't?
01:41 egrsteve it's 16 mic ins
01:41 Cprossu ^ yep
01:41 tonsofpcs i thought there were 12 faders?
01:41 egrsteve no
01:41 tonsofpcs are we talking of the same mackie that was there when I was there, with the 1/4" everywhere?
01:42 Cprossu still a noise maker. 1320 AM where we blahblahblahblah ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ
01:42 Cprossu yes one in the same
01:42 tonsofpcs also, it's not a noise maker, it's a decent antenna.
01:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs it's a noisemaker too
01:42 tonsofpcs how can you tell over the AM? :-p
01:42 Cprossu we were in there with a tone pickup tool
01:43 tonsofpcs hahaha
01:43 Cprossu ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ
01:43 tonsofpcs oh, nice
01:43 Cprossu and we even heard it through OUR VIDEO LINES
01:43 tonsofpcs and it went away if you removed power?
01:43 Cprossu when we kicked the mixer off it went away
01:43 lwq1996 I PLAY THE TRUMPERT
01:44 tonsofpcs it's entirely possible that it's coming from elsewhere and the mackie is amplifying it
01:44 Cprossu we pulled the line we thought it was coming from
01:44 Cprossu and we heard the buzz from the jack
01:44 tonsofpcs aux/
01:44 Cprossu we didn't pull off all the imputs
01:44 Cprossu *inputs
01:45 Cprossu also a few of our TBC's stopped throwing fits
01:45 Cprossu when it was off
01:45 egrsteve either way mackies are ment to be stand alone mixers not highly integrated
01:45 tonsofpcs i've seen some successfully integrated
01:45 tonsofpcs just not that model
01:46 egrsteve put a mackie in a small church or conferance hall and no one will know any better
01:46 egrsteve some of the larger format might be quieter idk
01:46 tonsofpcs having done broadcast audio on a mackie or two or three many times... not an issue, you just have to be careful how you wire it.
01:46 Cprossu put it in  a tv studio with all kindsa interference and you end up chasing your own tail.
01:46 tonsofpcs running everything through an isolating splitter before going into it helps ;)
01:47 Cprossu lol we could roll our own at this point egrsteve with all those ferrite cores
01:47 egrsteve no, not really
01:47 Cprossu pity
01:47 egrsteve you need audio grade x-formers = $$$
01:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: that won't help that board you have.
01:47 Cprossu well I know what will help it
01:48 tonsofpcs egrsteve: hey, the MASS connectors on my splitter snake cost about as much as the splits....
01:48 Cprossu (eyes wheatstone) problem solved
01:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes, removing power.
01:48 egrsteve for all the splits or each
01:48 egrsteve most iso's are 50+ per cahnnel
01:48 tonsofpcs all
01:48 Cprossu hey yNos you still up/ what's cooking?
01:49 tonsofpcs yea, mass connectors are f'n expensive
01:49 egrsteve that too
01:50 egrsteve do you see any major issue using std 1/4 in a mil style patch bay
01:50 tonsofpcs mil style?
01:51 egrsteve or longframe
01:52 Cprossu also our collection of patchbays are 1/2 normaled @ egrsteve?
01:52 tonsofpcs the major issues with patchbays are the mechanism they use for normalling and the possibilty of grounds getting tied together somewhere that you don't want them to
01:52 tonsofpcs Cprossu: most of them are half-normal, there's one with no normalling iirc
01:53 egrsteve the grounds are tied across normals but not between inputs I checked
01:54 egrsteve so it might be a little odd, but it we mostly use normaled conections is shouldn't be too much of an issue
01:54 tonsofpcs egrsteve: right, but tying them across normals can mess things up when you patch around....
01:54 tonsofpcs unless maybe they were full normal?  (I forget)
01:55 egrsteve most are either full or half I don't remember either
01:55 tonsofpcs it's probably in the google doc (which has all sorts of wiring standards written in it to help guide your ground/unground decision)
01:55 egrsteve anyway, we will make it work real inputs will still be better than the mackie
01:56 tonsofpcs that said, that wheatstone will probably take anything you throw at it.
01:56 tonsofpcs (please don't thump)
01:57 egrsteve thats the idea, and no, it shouldn't get thumped but a dead P&G fader after autopsy could be interesting
01:57 tonsofpcs dead P&G fader?
01:58 tonsofpcs the dead fader module is just a bad button iirc.  Jeff diagnosed it.
01:58 egrsteve we had a couple dead ones donated with it in a box seperate
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01:58 tonsofpcs oh, I thought those were live spares
01:58 egrsteve I though one was bad
01:58 tonsofpcs the full details of those are in the manual, btw.
01:59 Cprossu one was pre-taken apart irrc
01:59 egrsteve I will need to check again
01:59 tonsofpcs there's one in the board that's 'bad'
01:59 Cprossu *iirc lol
02:00 tonsofpcs it's not actually plugged into a slot
02:00 wannabe|tgg you made him run away
02:00 tonsofpcs again, ask jeff, he might remember more (or at least he'll remember how we troubleshot)
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02:05 wannabe|tgg holy crap @ mcphee on the orbitron
02:07 Toastdude .......
02:09 lwq1996 your just now watching it?
02:09 lwq1996 seroster got a major boner over it
02:10 wannabe|tgg yes, lee, i'm behind.....i didn't want to watch vids last night because i was on suicide watch, shouldn't have headphones in....
02:12 tehdark45 lwq1996, wannabe|tgg does this thing called work
02:12 tehdark45 that doesnt involve sitting around all day
02:12 * wannabe|tgg is sleepy
02:12 lwq1996 fuck you tehdark45 how many jobs you have?
02:13 tehdark45 none
02:13 tehdark45 but still
02:13 tehdark45 you are acting surprised]
02:13 lwq1996 then you should not be talking
02:13 tehdark45 I will talk when I feel like tyvm
02:16 HighMan This is the worst tasting medicine ever. It tastes like crap, you have to garggle it in your mouth for like 5 minutes, then swallow it, adn can't wash out the flavor with water.
02:17 HighMan It tastes like amox, but worst because the flavor stays in your mouth.
02:17 lwq1996 whats the medicine for?
02:19 tehdark45 lwq1996, an aliment
02:19 tehdark45 :P
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02:23 tehdark45 what are you doing lwq1996
02:23 lwq1996 YOUR MOTHER!
02:23 tehdark45 thats real original lwq1996
02:24 tehdark45 come tp my house
02:24 tehdark45 i'll make you a medel
02:24 tehdark45 to*
02:24 VictrolaWax Good Evening
02:24 tehdark45 hi VictrolaWax
02:24 wannabe|tgg hi VictrolaWax
02:25 VictrolaWax Hi
02:26 wannabe|tgg hows life?
02:26 Katemonster VictrolaWaxCylinder?
02:27 VictrolaWax no
02:30 tonsofpcs edison did cylinders....
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02:33 tehdark45 wb wannabe1987
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02:40 wannabe-afk we are currently having internet issues....bbiab
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02:40 astro73|roam RL calls, bbl
02:40 wannabe-afk apparently not....
02:48 egrsteve http://www.damnlol.com/like-a-boss-18620.html
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02:55 * CaptainNiobe pokes lwq1996
02:55 tgg|wannabe my browser is broken
02:56 CaptainNiobe how so?
02:56 tgg|wannabe i blame cpro
02:56 tgg|wannabe he broke the internet
02:56 CaptainNiobe lol... what did he do?
02:56 * tehdark45 pokes CaptainNiobe
02:56 tgg|wannabe i dunno.  he just did
02:56 tgg|wannabe he monkeyed with wires
02:56 tgg|wannabe but i know i'm connected cuz irc
02:56 CaptainNiobe :P
02:57 CaptainNiobe tehdark45, i'm poking lee cause a common contact on facebook wants him :P
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02:58 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, i'm poking because i felt like it
02:58 tehdark45 lol
02:58 * CaptainNiobe pokes tehdark45 right back again
02:58 CaptainNiobe :P
02:58 * tehdark45 unpokes himself
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02:59 * CaptainNiobe repokes tehdark45
02:59 lwq19961 see CaptainNiobe
03:00 * tehdark45 activates amtrix mode, avoiding CaptainNiobe's poke
03:00 CaptainNiobe i see lee :D
03:00 tehdark45 matrix*
03:00 * CaptainNiobe wonders if there's any agents nearby to poke tehdark45
03:01 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, no, they are behind you
03:01 tonsofpcs Cprossu: fix dns pls kthx
03:02 egrsteve time for sleep
03:02 egrsteve and lurking
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03:02 CaptainNiobe egrsteve: no lurking! :D
03:03 egrsteve tgg|yNos: you ever play with time diff of arrival rdf?
03:03 egrsteve I will lurk if I want to lurk!
03:03 * CaptainNiobe slurks egrsteve
03:04 CaptainNiobe (stalks and lurks - slurks?)
03:04 egrsteve we can lurk if we want to
03:04 CaptainNiobe i know, i'm just kidding :)
03:04 egrsteve we can leave your friends behind
03:05 egrsteve cause your friends don't lurk
03:05 egrsteve and if they don't lurk
03:05 egrsteve well there no friends of mine.
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03:06 CaptainNiobe but, but, but... i don't lurk...
03:06 CaptainNiobe i slurk...
03:06 CaptainNiobe does that mean you aren't my friend? ;(
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03:06 CaptainNiobe :P
03:06 egrsteve hmmm...
03:06 wannabe-afk odd
03:06 wannabe-afk anyway....this pilot episode is great thus far
03:07 egrsteve slurking does invole lurking, so maybe
03:07 CaptainNiobe what for, wannabe?
03:07 wannabe-afk V
03:08 CaptainNiobe YAY! *glomps egrsteve* (oh, wow, how often am i this playful? lol)
03:08 wannabe-afk alien invasion tv show
03:09 wannabe-afk gosh niobe....steve isn't monks!
03:09 CaptainNiobe he's not? O.O
03:09 CaptainNiobe :P
03:10 tgg|wannabe nope
03:10 tgg|wannabe sorry hun
03:11 * CaptainNiobe cries
03:12 * tehdark45 points and laughs
03:12 tehdark45 :P
03:13 * CaptainNiobe kicks tehdark45 backside while crying
03:13 CaptainNiobe :P
03:13 CaptainNiobe tehdark45's*
03:13 tehdark45 lol
03:14 tonsofpcs we can lurk?
03:14 tonsofpcs we can lurk!
03:15 * CaptainNiobe slurks
03:15 * tehdark45 slurks n lurks
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03:17 egrsteve ok, time for sleep (really)
03:17 tonsofpcs g'nite egrsteve
03:18 tonsofpcs we can sleep if we want to.  We can leave the chat behind.
03:18 tonsofpcs Cause the chat don't sleep and if you don't sleep...
03:18 CaptainNiobe ok,, goodnight egrsteve, sleep well and sweet dreams :)
03:18 egrsteve thanks
03:18 egrsteve and thats tons
03:19 egrsteve *thanks
03:19 tonsofpcs I got nothing for the last line, sorry
03:19 egrsteve it's ok
03:19 egrsteve at least you got it
03:20 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
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03:21 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:22 wannabe-afk hai
03:22 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:25 egrsteve ynos http://theleggios.net/wb2hol/projects/rdf/tdoa1.htm
03:25 Cheezmo It's nice when I extrapolate data and after several hours over several days, I come up with an answer based off a base unit I started with
03:25 Cheezmo That means I did well <3
03:26 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:27 Toastdude Hi GGR
03:28 tonsofpcs interesting.  fox hunting?
03:29 egrsteve looking at it
03:29 egrsteve and it looks like a cool idea
03:29 tonsofpcs yea
03:29 tonsofpcs but the real world has multipath
03:29 egrsteve now I just need 4 antennas off of vhf wireless mic recievers
03:29 tonsofpcs which is why a yagi and a FIM work better ;)
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03:30 egrsteve dual yagi tdoa?
03:31 egrsteve multi path is why you continue to track it as you move
03:31 egrsteve even yagi's can be tricked that way
03:34 egrsteve even dopplers stuggle with multi path
03:34 egrsteve tdoa is basicly a simple doppler
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03:34 egrsteve with a the goal of nulling the doppler effect
03:35 * egrsteve returns to lurking as to not drive tgg|wannabe crazy
03:40 lwq19961 girlfriend just said "we need to talk"
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03:42 lwq1996 heads desk
03:42 wannabe-afk yes
03:42 wannabe-afk thats what this internet is making me do
03:43 lwq1996 shannon said we need to talk and its about something i want to die over
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03:53 * lwq1996 wild ynos appears from nowhere
03:56 DruidicRifleman he clearly appareared from the lab
03:56 DruidicRifleman also
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03:56 lwq1996 fuck off
03:56 DruidicRifleman Did you get dumped lee?
03:58 DruidicRifleman what did i do???
03:58 tehdark45 DruidicRifleman, you made canadian comments
03:58 tehdark45 :P
03:59 DruidicRifleman ... wonders if i know any twisted some what mentally unballanced sadists i can send after tehdark in bc...
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04:08 tehdark45 DruidicRifleman, just drive over here and do it yourself
04:08 Cprossu 0
04:09 Cprossu Comcast, it's ComCrapStic!
04:09 tehdark45 Cprossu, at least it is not ATT
04:09 Cprossu I'd prefer ATT to this bullshit
04:10 tehdark45 Get FIOS
04:10 tehdark45 :P
04:10 Cprossu I wish
04:13 tehdark45 not avalible in the area?
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04:18 DruidicRifleman get bell fibe
04:25 tehdark45 DruidicRifleman, that is canadaian
04:25 tehdark45 and it is bell
04:25 tehdark45 >.<
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04:33 wannabe-afk .seen lwq1996
04:33 lwq1996 yes?
04:33 wannabe-afk hi
04:33 wannabe1987 there
04:33 wannabe1987 thats better
04:33 * lwq1996 heads desk
04:34 wannabe1987 noes!!!! you need those brain cells!
04:34 tehdark45 in soviet russia, head desks you
04:36 * tehdark45 sends lwq1996 brain cells
04:36 tehdark45 is that better wannabe1987
04:36 wannabe1987 no, he dorsn't need your used cells
04:36 tehdark45 used > none ;)
04:37 lwq1996 yeah his is all saturated with porn
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04:42 tehdark45 no
04:43 tehdark45 too much smart in here for that
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04:50 wannabe1987 astro73!  your girls new sculpture is great!
04:56 lwq1996 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Broken-Xbox-360-AS-IS-Red-Ring-of-Death-/290699653499?pt=Video_Games&amp;hash=item43af0cb17b#ht_500wt_898
04:56 lwq1996 15dollar xbox for about and hour of work
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05:10 wannabe1987 hi Hackbat
05:10 Hackbat hihi
05:10 wannabe1987 hows you?
05:11 Hackbat alives
05:13 wannabe1987 good!
05:13 wannabe1987 i like people that are alive!
05:13 Hackbat Deathist
05:13 wannabe1987 ?
05:14 Hackbat Always be hating on the zombie
05:14 Hackbat They we're people too at one point
05:14 Hackbat *were
05:14 wannabe1987 nothing wrong with zombies!  i play one at zomb!
05:14 wannabe1987 i just prefer to have my friends alive vs dead
05:16 Hackbat My kingdom for a single AA bettery
05:19 * Monkeh|Lap throws some dead ones at Hackbat
05:20 BatSteve yo
05:20 Monkeh|Lap Hey BatSteve
05:20 Sgt_Lemming Bot appears to have died
05:20 Monkeh|Lap That does seem to be a regular occurance
05:21 wannabe1987 mhm
05:21 BatSteve is he?
05:21 BatSteve .dice 2 20
05:21 BatSteve durn
05:21 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Well he's not in the userlist. :P
05:22 BatSteve well, I'm too lazy to look at the userlist
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05:22 wannabe1987 lol
05:22 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve
05:22 BotSteve Greetings wannabe1987!
05:23 BatSteve Thank you for telling me.
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05:45 Seroster http://thedoghousediaries.com/
05:45 BotSteve Title: DOGHOUSE
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06:04 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
06:04 wannabe1987 what?
06:04 lwq1996 hello
06:04 wannabe1987 i'm watching a show on my computer, full screen'd
06:04 lwq1996 ah. i see
06:06 wannabe1987 mhm  its an alien invasion TV show called "V"
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06:10 new hey guys
06:11 CaptainNiobe hello new, wassup?
06:11 new its new guy, for some reason guy got lost coming to the party
06:11 CaptainNiobe type /nick newguy
06:12 CaptainNiobe :)
06:12 newguy woot!
06:12 BatSteve howdy new
06:13 newguy hey Bat Steve
06:13 newguy whats happening?
06:13 Experimentonomen *yaaaaaaaaaaawn* :/
06:13 wannabe1987 hi newguy
06:13 newguy hey wannabe!
06:13 wannabe1987 how are you?
06:13 * wannabe1987 tucks Experimentonomen into bed
06:14 newguy doing good
06:14 newguy little tired
06:14 wannabe1987 good.  still doing good at the lab?
06:14 newguy yep was there today
06:14 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, i just got outta bed after 6 hours of sleep
06:14 newguy doing some magnet sorting
06:14 wannabe1987 cool
06:14 wannabe1987 oooo i bet that was fun!
06:14 wannabe1987 i'll be in tomorrow till about 8:15p
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06:14 BatSteve chilling
06:15 CaptainNiobe newguy... YOU GO TO THE LAB! GRRRRR! I'M JEALOUS! :D
06:15 wannabe1987 lol @ niobe
06:15 wannabe1987 she's stuck in australia
06:15 CaptainNiobe yah... lol...
06:15 wannabe1987 BatSteve: chillin like a villain?
06:15 newguy its a mecca of nerdyness
06:15 wannabe1987 its awesome.  i do too much cleaning
06:15 wannabe1987 but still
06:15 Experimentonomen and im stuck in shitland (sweden) :(
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06:15 newguy well even mecca's need cleaning
06:15 wannabe1987 poor Experimentonomen
06:15 lwq1996 http://www.damnlol.com/boys-and-their-toys-18590.html
06:15 BotSteve Title: Boys And Their Toys. - Damn! LOL
06:15 wannabe1987 yeah.....they do.....
06:16 * Experimentonomen is feeling the effects of aluminum poisoning :/
06:16 BatSteve indeed
06:16 wannabe1987 aluminum poisoning?
06:17 Experimentonomen inhaling and ingesting aluminum powder
06:17 wannabe1987 yum!
06:17 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i?
06:17 BotSteve Nope
06:17 Experimentonomen i feel crappy
06:17 wannabe1987 i bet you ddo
06:18 Experimentonomen i almost regret sanding those daggone heatsinks
06:19 newguy Botsteve: The meaning of life?
06:19 Experimentonomen atleast the time and effort paid off
06:19 BatSteve newguy: you need to use .c for that
06:19 newguy .c meaning of life?
06:19 BatSteve .c the meaning of life, the universe and everything
06:19 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
06:19 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
06:19 BatSteve aw
06:19 wannabe1987 .wa meaning of life
06:19 BatSteve I was sure I had that one in there.
06:19 BotSteve Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything;42, (according to Douglas Adams\' humorous science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker\'s Guide to the Galaxy)
06:20 wannabe1987 theres you go :)
06:20 BatSteve :D
06:20 newguy !!!!!
06:20 newguy that is cool
06:20 wannabe1987 mhm
06:20 newguy BatSteve you made the bot
06:20 wannabe1987 coded*  yes
06:21 tehdark45 many people coded the bot
06:21 newguy what does the dot wa do?
06:21 tehdark45 or parts of it
06:21 wannabe1987 wolfram alpha
06:21 newguy oh ok
06:21 wannabe1987 .wiki is wikipedia
06:21 BatSteve newguy: Many people worked on the bot.  I'm just the one who runs him
06:21 wannabe1987 .g is google
06:21 BotSteve "Wikipedia (i|/ˌwɪkɨˈpiːdiə/ or i|/ˌwɪkiˈpiːdiə/ WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə) is a free, collaborative, multilingual Internet encyclopedia supported by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia
06:21 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/is-google-making-us-stupid/6868/
06:21 newguy doesnt the Iphone run Sirri off that
06:21 wannabe1987 siri*
06:21 wannabe1987 idk
06:22 MoxieMike tfw is the F*** Weather
06:22 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
06:22 BotSteve Clear ☼, 41.0℉ (5℃), 29.68in (1002mb), Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - KGRR 05:53Z
06:22 wannabe1987 weather for grand rapids airport
06:22 BatSteve siri off of what?
06:23 BatSteve The bot also rolls dice.
06:23 newguy when you ask a question , Siri searches wolfram alpha
06:23 BatSteve .dice 2d20
06:23 BotSteve BatSteve: [2, 1] =  3
06:23 BatSteve ooh, bad roll.
06:23 MoxieMike wicked bad
06:23 BatSteve True, among other things.
06:23 MoxieMike .dice 1d12
06:23 newguy I love Siri
06:23 BotSteve MoxieMike: [4] =  4
06:24 newguy she doesnt return the gesture
06:24 * Experimentonomen modifies BatSteves dice on a belt sander so they always land at six ;)
06:25 wannabe1987 what like raj and siri in bigbang theory?
06:25 Experimentonomen ;)
06:25 newguy exactly wannabe
06:25 wannabe1987 :)
06:26 BatSteve Experimentonomen: Bad idea, raises suspicion,  You need to modify them just enough to skew the odds in your favor.
06:27 tehdark45 Iris is better lol
06:28 Experimentonomen i guess i watched that macgyver episode too many times
06:31 Experimentonomen the bigbang theory show sux :p
06:32 wannabe1987 i like bbt!
06:33 newguy whats better IMAP or POP for email?
06:33 Experimentonomen i prefer snooker on eurosport
06:33 Experimentonomen ;p
06:33 BatSteve Generally IMAP, but it depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
06:34 newguy my personal business email on my phone
06:34 * Experimentonomen warms up his apartment with some blazin hot music
06:35 BatSteve I'd go with imap.
06:36 tehdark45 pop is ancient and has no purpose lol
06:37 Experimentonomen i'd go with whatever works
06:37 BatSteve True, if pop is easier and you don't care, save yourself the work.
06:39 newguy ok
06:39 Experimentonomen i have actually never heard of imap
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06:40 Experimentonomen pop and smtp is the only two i ene knew existed for email
06:41 BatSteve Turns out there's more!
06:41 Experimentonomen pop for incoming and smtp for outgoing
06:44 Experimentonomen i know half the channel is facepalming at myu incompetence right noew
06:44 lwq1996 night guys. going to bed
06:44 BatSteve and the other half is preparing detailed summaries of imap to send you
06:44 BatSteve night lee
06:45 Experimentonomen though it is not my strongest subject
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06:46 wannabe1987 high lem
06:46 LemPhone lo wannabe
06:47 wannabe1987 how are you?
06:47 Experimentonomen g'morning lemmington
06:47 LemPhone good, bit sweaty as I've just ridden to the train station
06:47 LemPhone on the train no
06:48 LemPhone now*
06:48 wannabe1987 mmmm sweaty lem
06:48 wannabe1987 :p
06:48 Experimentonomen when i sweat, i drip like a soaking wet rag :P
06:48 LemPhone ex, same
06:49 wannabe1987 so do most of the guys i dance with ....ugh
06:50 LemPhone lol
06:50 wannabe1987 at least they bring clean shirts to change into when we dance outside....
06:50 LemPhone heh
06:50 Experimentonomen when i sweat, i stink like a wet rag thats been wrapped in a plastic bag for 3 weeks
06:51 wannabe1987 yum
06:51 Experimentonomen no wait, make that three months
06:53 BatSteve g'night all
06:53 wannabe1987 night bats
06:53 LemPhone night bats
06:54 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, have u tried out the orbitron yet ? ;p
06:54 wannabe1987 no
06:54 wannabe1987 maybe tomorrow
06:55 LemPhone you must!
06:55 Experimentonomen chris loved it
06:55 Experimentonomen and it looked funny with batman in it :D
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06:55 LemPhone that was rather self evident
06:55 wannabe1987 mcphee shirtless was great :D
06:55 LemPhone lo
06:55 LemPhone lol*
06:56 Experimentonomen since im male, i cant enjoy that ;p
06:56 MoxieMike i figured the ladies would like that
06:56 wannabe1987 you can too!
06:56 wannabe1987 i'm sure Hackbat might've ...
06:56 Experimentonomen im not gay :P
06:56 LemPhone anyways, time for me to log off, later all
06:56 Experimentonomen cya lem
06:57 LemPhone nothing wrong with being curious ex
06:57 LemPhone :-_
06:58 Experimentonomen i saw mcphee shirtless running around the HVL with capacitors and was like "WTF?!o_O"
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07:00 wannabe1987 wb
07:00 wannabe-zz night all
07:00 Experimentonomen nite missy
07:03 ajcc morning
07:03 Experimentonomen g'mornin aj
07:04 ajcc morning Experimentonomen (you can tab several times and it will go through the alternatives)
07:04 Experimentonomen aj = ouch :P
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07:06 Experimentonomen so wutz the ajcc up to today ?
07:08 ajcc not much, waiting for the HVAC people to check the ventilation in my apparment (they are finally fixing the whole building), so I can get on with my day :)
07:08 ajcc are you building another amp today?
07:08 newguy off to bed, night guys
07:11 Experimentonomen i built one yesterday after endless filinmg and sanding of two heatsinks
07:12 ajcc hm, ah, the one that the transistors didn't lay flat on?
07:12 Experimentonomen ya
07:13 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/YHfHk.jpg <--
07:13 ajcc the HVAC guys are here now, excellent.
07:15 ajcc hm, and they're gone. I don't think they checked the kitchen fan, dammit :(
07:15 Experimentonomen kitchen fans are usually done but the sooting guys
07:17 ajcc right, chimney sweeper, it said on the note from the land lord that they would check and fix the bathroom vent and the kitchen vent, I guess some off the newer appartments got a vent in the kitchen
07:18 Experimentonomen skorstensrunkare ;)
07:19 ajcc :/
07:19 ajcc they are making awful sounds from inside the wall though
07:20 Experimentonomen that calls for louder music :P
07:20 ajcc yeah, well :)
07:22 Experimentonomen yuck, aluminum boogers :/
07:22 ajcc :/
07:33 einball MEOW ^^
07:34 * Hackbat needs warmth
07:40 ajcc this is probably the only geek channel where you can't say: have some coffee, it will warm you.
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07:52 einball ajcc: why? :)
07:52 Thermoelectric Because some people in here don't like coffee?
07:53 CaptainNiobe some are extremely oposed to coffee... :)
07:53 ovestein Tea then?
07:54 CaptainNiobe for myself, i LOVE coffee... :)
07:55 Thermoelectric <Experimentonomen> i tasted coffee once, was near death for the rest of the year
07:55 CaptainNiobe ... i wasn't going to say who... ex is entitled to his opinion... lol...
07:55 ajcc CaptainNiobe: I also love coffee :), I think most geeks worship coffee
07:56 Thermoelectric Ah well.
07:56 CaptainNiobe the pain in the butt is when you get used to it that a few hours without it leaves you with massive headaches... lol... that sucks...
07:57 CaptainNiobe meh... i gotta head to hsbne...
07:58 * Experimentonomen built a ugly hut: http://imgur.com/a/rkD7I
07:58 BotSteve Title: mindcrack public server - Imgur
07:58 Experimentonomen :P
07:59 ovestein What about coffin free coffee?
07:59 Experimentonomen still tastes like shit
07:59 ajcc it's a very nice house you got there, it would be very sad if someone slipped with a flint and tinder...
08:00 Experimentonomen cappuchiny is trhe closest to coffee i can drink
08:00 Experimentonomen its grief protected ala the protection block mod
08:00 ajcc I miss the days when you could burn down an entire forest in Minecraft, now it stops burning after a while :(
08:01 ajcc I really wanted to burn down the rain forest
08:01 Experimentonomen its junglöe, not rainforest :P
08:01 Experimentonomen jungle*
08:01 Experimentonomen :PP
08:03 ovestein Sweedis....
08:03 einball hehe+
08:04 Experimentonomen im doodling with the thought of building a treehouse in a tall jungle tree
08:04 Experimentonomen of platforms with bridges between trees
08:04 ovestein Like "
08:04 einball UNLIMITED GRAVITY!
08:04 einball BAM
08:05 ovestein Like "robbin hood" ?
08:05 ajcc sherwood isn't a jungle :)
08:06 ajcc but then again
08:06 ajcc the default trees in minecraft are crap for building treehouses
08:06 ovestein Prove it!
08:06 ajcc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwood_Forest <-
08:06 BotSteve Title: Sherwood Forest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
08:07 ovestein Everything In wiki is true?
08:07 ajcc nope :)
08:09 Thermoelectric Followspots are fun. :)
08:12 ajcc now I feel like making a death star above the jungle, and burning it to the ground (the jungle)
08:13 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/mvXXh.png <-- gave it alittle more character :P
08:13 ajcc planting trees on your house?
08:14 Experimentonomen i could only afford a 11x11 area protection level
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08:15 Experimentonomen ppl on this server never replant trees so i have my own little protected tree farm in case the forest aroun d me is chopped down
08:16 ajcc hm, lazy users
08:20 Experimentonomen their all fanboys, trhe chat is like "MOAR ETHO!!! HEY GUUUUUUUDE" "OMG PAUSEUNPAUSE" and such toward the mindcrack crew
08:21 ajcc you shouldn't read the chat on minecraft servers, or comments on youtube :)
08:21 Experimentonomen i almost never say anything in the chat, if i do its something like *watches trees grow*
08:30 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/2X5WP <-- on another server
08:30 BotSteve Title: Tekkit - Imgur
08:34 Seroster There we go...
08:34 Seroster Still alive BatSteve-Away?
08:40 einball FUCK
08:40 einball Solder flux in the coffee i just drank
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08:46 Seroster Hey, it's an antioxidant =)
08:51 einball lol .. :D
08:51 einball btw what does that kid want to build in the recent captains blog?
08:51 einball Neutron containment!?
08:52 einball I may have missed something
08:54 Experimentonomen hm
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09:04 Seroster einball, He is into radioactivity
09:04 einball Seroster: oh bad thing when you're that young
09:04 Seroster His mom is worried about his balls
09:04 angy let's just cut that part off then
09:05 Seroster So TGG will help the kid make a good containment vessel for radioactive samples.
09:05 einball yup, that's just he right way she acts
09:05 Seroster einball, the kind of stuff a kid can get his hands on isn't really an issue
09:05 Seroster It's the kinda small pieces encased in acrylic
09:05 einball I really appreciate Chris' offer
09:06 einball Seroster: I know. But what if that kid finds out that there are radioactive elements used in sensors, clocks, stuff? ;)
09:06 Seroster He already knows.
09:06 Experimentonomen radium
09:06 Seroster Thing is, If he is into radioactivity he just wants to measure the radioactivity from a fire alarm.
09:06 einball Experimentonomen: not only radium
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09:07 einball Seroster: I was all about to get the radioactive elements wahted out of the paint on the clock ..
09:07 Seroster Also, if you tried to stop him from having radioactive samples he would just hide them under his bed.
09:07 einball Thank god I didnt do it ^^
09:08 einball http://h13.abload.de/img/dscn0958oudgx.jpg y I really like that poster
09:08 einball goulash programming night :D
09:10 einball *likes*
09:10 Experimentonomen hm
09:10 einball *turns on the sub
09:10 einball *starts Unlimited gravity
09:10 einball *is amazed by the square PWM soung
09:10 einball *sound
09:12 Experimentonomen hm
09:14 * einball rocks out the whole flat
09:14 Experimentonomen hm
09:15 * Experimentonomen listens to music on the 2x5w class a amp
09:15 einball booo :D
09:16 einball did you knwo that you can play music on digital stepper motor amps?' :D
09:16 Experimentonomen yuck
09:17 Experimentonomen those are just very crude class d amplifiers
09:17 einball I'm okay with it ..
09:18 einball As long as they do their job ;)
09:19 einball I can rock to a fckin' violin ... Ilike myself :D
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09:26 * einball relaxes the suction pump
09:27 Experimentonomen hm
09:29 Seroster Now... How do I get this press fitted rotor out of this cast iron housing...
09:30 Experimentonomen heat it to expand the housing
09:31 einball Seroster: I always do it with a hammer ...
09:31 Seroster It's 25kilos.
09:31 einball Experimentonomen: that will only work with small diameters
09:31 Seroster Experimentonomen, How hot?
09:31 Experimentonomen around 300deg C should do
09:31 einball ...
09:32 Experimentonomen i did that to disassamble/assamble a bldc motor
09:32 Seroster So that's the oven full blast for eight hours. That's 10kw*8hr= 80kwh = 10bucks
09:32 Seroster I have to pull on the rotor too when it's warm, eh?
09:32 Experimentonomen propane torch model aussie50 hdd melter :P
09:32 Seroster I don't even have the means of removing it from the oven
09:32 Seroster Or an oven that it could fit in
09:33 Seroster Throwing it on a bonfire would likely do no good.
09:33 Experimentonomen why are you taking apart a large motor ?
09:33 einball Seroster: try it with a hammer
09:33 Seroster Because I want the pump motor, and the pump motor only works with it's rotor.
09:34 Seroster And I DON'T want the pump housing which weighs twice as much as me.
09:34 Experimentonomen the rotor bearings are usually just a light press fit into the end flanges of the motor
09:35 Experimentonomen might need a bearing puller to be able to excert enough pulling force though
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11:33 Thermoelectric Facebook is just getting stupid as of late.
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11:54 Electricguy yayy! i got my power mac G5 case! :D
12:12 Experimentonomen and my new internet connection arrived
12:13 Experimentonomen Electricguy: http://i.imgur.com/YHfHk.jpg
12:15 Electricguy hehe nice :)
12:15 Electricguy how many watts approx?
12:16 Experimentonomen around 5 per channel into 4 ohms
12:18 Gaxnys Hmpf, apparently my internet is not as stable as it used to be.
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12:24 ovestein .t tgg
12:24 BotSteve Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:24:11 TGG
12:27 CaptainNiobe .cake Experimentonomen
12:27 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you a carrot cake!
12:28 ovestein .cake botsteve
12:28 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *Looks at cake with a crazed look in his eyes*
12:29 ovestein Lol
12:29 CaptainNiobe it's programmed well, isn't it? :D
12:29 CaptainNiobe .cake ovestein
12:29 BotSteve Here you go, ovestein, I baked you a cardamom and pistachio cake!
12:29 ovestein Yup
12:29 CaptainNiobe .cookie ovestein
12:29 BotSteve Here you go, ovestein, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
12:30 CaptainNiobe i think this one works...
12:30 CaptainNiobe .shake ovestein
12:30 BotSteve Here you go, ovestein, I made you a cookies and creme shake!
12:31 BotSteve Or, I can just remote control it, but that's another story... :D
12:32 ovestein .drink captainniobe
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12:40 ajcc http://youtu.be/AtqxKXpBA9M I know you guys love the captains blog, so shut up about it only being 9 min
12:40 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 4-23-12 Captain's Command Console comes online! - YouTube
12:40 ajcc it's the todays cap log
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12:42 angy Yay! Serostern!
12:43 BitViper aaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhh. he's got the intro vol back up. *orders new windows to replace the ones just broken*
13:07 Experimentonomen hm
13:17 Electricguy ok, the server is going down to be rebuilt in the G5 case
13:17 Electricguy bbl!
13:18 Electricguy still on on the lappy though
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13:53 tonsofpcs egrsteve: see PM about possible cheap jack fields
13:53 tonsofpcs (I'm guessing BNC w/ ADC plugs, but idk)
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14:25 lwq_laptop hi
14:29 lwq_laptop today is going to be hard toget through. masterofmonks you here
14:34 lwq_laptop .seen wannabe-zz
14:34 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I last saw wannabe-zz 7.57 hours ago at 2012-04-24 07:00:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:34:27 UTC
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14:38 lwq_laptop hmorning sparky
14:39 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon SparkyProjects
14:39 SparkyProjects Hi
14:45 lwq_laptop i want to hit my head off the desk repeatedly
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14:45 SparkyProjects Hi HsBne, who's at the controls ?
14:47 Experimentonomen prolly that lemmington
14:47 SparkyProjects could be Niobe
14:51 SparkyProjects Unless she's hiding in a corner, i don't see her at the space
14:59 Experimentonomen i see her on top of the users list
15:07 SparkyProjects Yrah, but she's logged on to that from home, and her gtalk has been idle for a while, she's either asleep or _was_ at the space since it's Tuesday
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15:08 Experimentonomen wb Electricguy
15:21 Electricguy thx
15:23 egrsteve morning all
15:23 angy .cookie egrsteve
15:23 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a peanut butter cookie!
15:28 egrsteve yay cookie
15:29 * egrsteve will be happy when today is over
15:30 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon egrsteve
15:31 egrsteve no, not really, exams today
15:32 Experimentonomen oh the joys of exams, blegh
15:33 egrsteve micro eco & buisness law
15:33 egrsteve (back to back)
15:34 egrsteve from noon to 4
15:34 Experimentonomen yuck
15:34 Experimentonomen why do exams have to suck ?
15:34 egrsteve thats a good summery
15:34 egrsteve schools are evil?
15:35 Experimentonomen im so glad im years past school, i aint goin back, EVER!!!
15:35 egrsteve I wish I was
15:35 Experimentonomen how many more years of torture before ur out ?
15:40 egrsteve too many
15:47 Experimentonomen :(
15:49 Electricguy some pics of the new server case http://imgur.com/a/UbsH9
15:49 BotSteve Title: Power Mac G5 ATX casemod - Imgur
15:51 Experimentonomen the apple logo has to go ;)
15:51 Electricguy No.
15:52 Experimentonomen well atleast that case have more vent holes than most pc cases can even dream of
15:53 Electricguy lol yeah
15:53 Electricguy dual G5 powerPC CPUs requires a lot of ventilation
15:55 * Experimentonomen spins some vinyl through the A-amp
16:10 SparkyProjects http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2169925/mozilla-bypasses-windows-uac-silent-updates-firefox
16:10 BotSteve Title: Mozilla bypasses Windows UAC for silent updates in Firefox 12 - The Inquirer
16:12 Experimentonomen hm
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16:24 SparkyProjects Ecellent vedeo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmpL8pMzxhk
16:24 BotSteve Title: Life Together - The Geek Group - YouTube
16:25 ajcc hehe
16:27 ajcc poor transformer
16:27 SparkyProjects Yeah, i remember watching that near disaster
16:28 SparkyProjects That's why they need a decent ramp
16:29 ajcc have they got the cement mixer working?
16:30 Experimentonomen which blog is that transformer near miss in ?
16:30 Experimentonomen or is it in the production vidz ?
16:36 IsopropylAlcohol roar
16:36 SparkyProjects I think it was the DC power supplies they brought in after the vandals stole copper from inside, they moved them insoors just after
16:36 SparkyProjects and i think a blog
16:41 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KJ9ny5F2DU @ about 3:20
16:41 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-22-11 Transformers and Pens - YouTube
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16:41 mashpriborintorg hiya
16:42 SparkyProjects sorry, 3:48 is acrual time
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16:52 ajcc http://youtu.be/3AmdcB8vR-k wow, 17 part vintage KUKA robot autopsy
16:52 BotSteve Title: Equipment Autopsy - KUKA Robot Part 1 - YouTube
16:54 mashpriborintorg I watched the whole thing 3 times, at least :p
16:54 ajcc hehe
16:57 ajcc I wonder if the bakery near me actually got their 14 KUKA robot packing line (one of the largest bakeries in Sweden). If so, I want to see them work!
16:58 ajcc In Sweden, people eat really shit bread, so the baked date is actually thawed date, yeah... still I want to see the robots if they are there :)
17:11 ajcc guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GcJ06gIo-0 <- WOW! 14 Kuka robots
17:11 BotSteve Title: AUTO ORDER PACK Pagen Sweden - YouTube
17:12 egrsteve achivement unlocked: macro eco exam
17:13 egrsteve next up buiness law
17:13 ajcc egrsteve: congrats!, so what are you going to do with your macro economy skills?
17:14 egrsteve nothing
17:14 angy that's what they are useful to
17:17 egrsteve with buisness law next at least that one is predicatable 30-35 multi guess scantron
17:18 ajcc :
17:18 ajcc :(
17:19 egrsteve at least it will be easy
17:19 ajcc :)
17:20 egrsteve you can only make a test so hard with a finite set of answers
17:20 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxqtNEmERc8 now I wonder how you become a robot programmer, this is the test setup for the packing line in the video I sent before
17:20 BotSteve Title: Auto-Order-Pack - YouTube
17:21 egrsteve especially when the prof basicly says what will be on the test
17:22 ajcc Swedes love Robots, that they're not using (somewhat) Swedish ABB robots beats me
17:28 Electricguy yeyy.. my DHT11 sensor seems dead.. :/
17:30 egrsteve last exam shortly, I should study a bit then go ?pass it
17:30 ajcc yep
17:33 mashpriborintorg lastect Ed systems autopsy is rather interesting, neat  mechanical stuff http://youtu.be/_NHu1dDlMrI
17:33 BotSteve Title: Sanden SD-510 - Range Rover AC Compressor Autopsy - YouTube
17:34 egrsteve ok, time to go kill another exam
17:34 egrsteve my goal is 45-60 min
17:35 egrsteve that should be easily doable
17:35 egrsteve ttyl
17:35 mashpriborintorg we are wuth you egrsteve
17:36 Experimentonomen may the force be with you
17:37 mashpriborintorg I'd like to take apart one if these car ac compressors, but it seems pretty messy with the oil and gf may not agree if I do it on the living room table :p
17:37 Experimentonomen just flush it out with degreaser and then with hot water and let it dry
17:39 mashpriborintorg One time I took apart an aircraft hydaulic valve, it sprayed oil everywhere, and I could not finish it because if the lack of very special tools
17:42 mashpriborintorg hmmm one more guy doing interesting stuff http://youtu.be/kbZ26ze87WM
17:42 BotSteve Title: Projects for 2012! - YouTube
17:43 ajcc It's DrCassette :)
17:43 ajcc Hello, this is DrCassette once again, he.
17:44 mashpriborintorg ok, I have 594 videos to watch, see ya :p
17:45 * mashpriborintorg preparing beer and chips
17:45 ajcc that's a lot of beer and chips
17:45 mashpriborintorg lethal dose maybe even :p
17:46 ajcc that's a goal at least
17:46 ajcc or two
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17:54 ajcc kelly are you going on the radio today?
17:59 mashpriborintorg wow  this Dr Cassette guy is even crazier then me it seems
17:59 mashpriborintorg I'm not a big fan of consumer audio stuff tho
17:59 ajcc what about camcorders?
18:00 mashpriborintorg I prefer broadcast cameras
18:00 ajcc well, that excludes 70% of all DrCassette videos
18:00 mashpriborintorg I must have one or tho vintage camcorders also
18:01 ajcc hm, vwestlife on youtube is really into broadcast gear though
18:01 mashpriborintorg but I love seeing places filled with stuff anyway
18:02 mashpriborintorg yeah I am subbed to his channel
18:02 Experimentonomen mash, try cassettemaster on youtube ;)
18:03 Electricguy he's weird
18:03 Electricguy lol
18:03 mashpriborintorg I've already checked his channel iirc
18:03 Electricguy btw, the G5 case got Delta fans in it :P
18:03 Electricguy pulled them out
18:03 Electricguy cause they are not used there anyways
18:03 Experimentonomen and their just too loud for the amount of air they move
18:04 Electricguy these are really not that loud
18:04 ajcc the Macintosh G5 is really quiet
18:04 Electricguy gonna try and see how silent they can get
18:04 Electricguy the fans on full 12V is pretty loud.. :P
18:04 Experimentonomen though a noisy fan usually indicates a less than optimum design
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18:05 Electricguy or one that moves a lot of air
18:05 Experimentonomen g'evenin old radio
18:05 Electricguy like these do :)
18:05 Electricguy got one radial fan and one axial
18:05 VictrolaWax G' day
18:06 Experimentonomen radial fans, i wonder if there have ever been a cpu cooler made that has one of those cross flow fans like that looks like a lond cylinder
18:06 einball .
18:06 Electricguy not sure
18:06 einball Experimentonomen: there way exactly one here in germany
18:06 Electricguy but i've seen radial fans on CPU coolers
18:06 Electricguy however, they are mounted so they suck air through the heatsink
18:07 einball uah ... 5hrs of assembler and my typos go along with e^t
18:08 Electricguy the arduino mega sensor shield from DX is not really thought through in design...
18:08 Electricguy there is a jumper on it to select where you want to take your power..
18:09 Electricguy it selects positive voltage.. some moron thought it was a damn good idea to put the header right over the USB jack with grounded can! :D
18:09 Electricguy fucking chinese idiots
18:09 Electricguy gonna cut the pins down on the bottom and put some kapton tape over it
18:09 einball lol
18:13 mashpriborintorg Electricguy, I believe my Atmega chip is borked, i cannot upload at all now, I will order a replacement one, and then see if I am able to burn again the bootloader on the first one, in order to see what happens
18:13 Electricguy oh balls!
18:13 Electricguy well yeah.. they can die. it's a undeniable fact.. :P
18:13 Sgt_Lemming mashpriborintorg, no spare arduino around?
18:14 mashpriborintorg I worked one time in 50 times, and it is becoming harder and harder to make it work
18:14 mashpriborintorg no, it's my first and only one for now
18:14 Sgt_Lemming kk
18:14 Sgt_Lemming you can order the chip seperately
18:14 mashpriborintorg are the Mega stronger ?
18:14 Electricguy nah
18:15 Electricguy just as sensitive
18:15 Electricguy ok, maybe a liittle better
18:15 mashpriborintorg yeah, approx 5 euros including shipping for the chip
18:15 Electricguy as it got no pins on the bottom
18:16 mashpriborintorg really, i did take take care and did nothing wrong, seems it died by itself, it pisses me off
18:17 tgg|wannabe ajcc: doubt it....i work at 9p
18:23 Seroster SparkyProjects, masterofmonks, I got a big honkin piece of metal in the oven. About 20kgs worth. How long before it hits 150c?
18:23 mashpriborintorg ouch, calculations needed
18:23 * mashpriborintorg hiding
18:25 Seroster Guesstimations will be fine.
18:25 mashpriborintorg ... it will take a certain amount of time
18:26 SparkyProjects No idea, if you mean the pump/motor, and want to remove the shaft, remember that similar metals heat at similar rates, the shaft could expand and still be tight.
18:26 SparkyProjects I would have tried to hit the outer with a lot of heat to expand it faster
18:27 SparkyProjects You should be ok if it's an aluminium impeller you're trying to remove
18:28 mashpriborintorg what about heating the part with a blowtorch ?
18:28 SparkyProjects Yeah, that's what i meant by a lot of heat, but i think you may need more than a 'domestic' blowtorch
18:29 Seroster Yeah... Thing is I lack a blowtorch.
18:29 Seroster What I'll do is heat the lot, and then pour ice water on the shaft.
18:29 mashpriborintorg or a crappy chinese kitchen blowtorch... than can explode at your face at any time
18:33 * Experimentonomen opens the balcony door and a window to cool dont his livingroom a bit
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18:46 ovestein :-)
18:48 ovestein .t tgg
18:48 BotSteve Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:48:09 TGG
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18:49 ovestein Hi.
18:50 Druidic_Rifleman hello
18:51 ovestein Do you follow tgg on YouTube?
18:52 Experimentonomen if ur in this channel, ur pretty much a hardcore tgg member
18:52 Experimentonomen everyone here watch every tgg video released the second it pops up
18:53 ovestein :-)
18:53 Seroster Oooopslol.
18:53 Seroster Rubber O-rings =D
18:53 SparkyProjects toasty :D
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18:53 mashpriborintorg and refreshes youtube every 5 minutes to see it there's a new video :p
18:54 Electricguy there.. the MEGA sensor shield is fixed
18:54 SparkyProjects and searches for old ones that are not on the main YT ;)
18:54 Electricguy works good now :)
18:54 Experimentonomen or uses a homemade TGG toolbar that blinks the screen and sez "a new tgg vid have been uploaded" with the volume on maximum :P
18:55 Electricguy hmmm... TGG toolbar..
18:55 Electricguy good idea!
18:55 ovestein I check yt 4 times a day, even when I have a email allert.
18:55 Electricguy that cheks for new vids on thegeekgroups and captains channel
18:55 Electricguy and pops it up like a new message in FB... XD
18:56 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects
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18:56 * SparkyProjects hates toolbars :P heh, one guy posted a pic with every toolbar he could find on his browser activated, there was barely 20px of useable space at the bottom :D
18:56 SparkyProjects wassup Seroster ?
18:56 Electricguy lol
18:56 Electricguy i hate toolbars too
18:57 Seroster Worked like a friggin charm. Spat at it, noticed it was over a hundred, took it out of the oven and put it on a piece of metal in the shower, poured some cold water onto the shaft and pulled it, came right out
18:57 Seroster Now it's all coolin down in the shower.
18:57 SparkyProjects hope the shower tray wasn't plastic :P
19:01 Seroster Lol
19:01 Seroster Metal metal metal
19:08 Seroster I'm amazed how easily it slid apart
19:09 SparkyProjects Probably more of an interference fit than a shrink fit
19:10 SparkyProjects Was it the impeller that you were removing ?
19:10 SparkyProjects And was it keyed ?
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19:13 Experimentonomen g'evenin ajprog
19:13 Experimentonomen aj = ouch, ouchprog ;)
19:13 Seroster Err
19:14 Seroster The impeller and the rotor are the same piece
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19:22 IsopropylAlcohol .seen Cprossu
19:22 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I last saw Cprossu 74.19 hours ago at 2012-04-21 17:10:50 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:22:21 UTC
19:23 IsopropylAlcohol Botsteve: tell Cprossu You need to get in touch again man. Everyone in vent is wondering where you've been.
19:23 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
19:28 Cprossu I am both here and not here IsopropylAlcohol
19:28 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
19:28 BotSteve At 19:23Z, IsopropylAlcohol asked me to tell cprossu You need to get in touch again man. Everyone in vent is wondering where you've been.
19:28 Cprossu I need to go on a parts run now though
19:28 Cprossu vent will be running 'soon'
19:28 Cprossu tell everyone to relax ;)
19:31 Electricguy i should mount a exhaust fan in the upper back of the G5 case
19:31 Electricguy quite a lot of warm air gets trapped
19:31 Electricguy a PCI slot fan would do
19:38 Seroster btw, SparkyProjects, I got a HV insulator today. 30ish kgs of ceramic
19:38 Seroster Three discs, half a meter diameter
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19:40 SparkyProjects Nice Sero
19:42 Seroster I was just going for a ride in the forest, when I came to a huge pile of junk. Mostly asphalt, old concrete and rocks..
19:54 tonsofpcs Seroster: sounds like some of our radio sites....
19:54 Seroster I doubt anyone will miss it. Looks like the road hasn't been used for years
19:54 tonsofpcs Seroster: sounds like some of our radio sites....
19:55 Seroster There was loads of them too, only this one in decent shape.
19:55 Seroster tonsofpcs, SOunds fun
19:55 tonsofpcs ;)
19:55 tonsofpcs If you see a large 1F cap standing there, shorted, someone probably cares ;)
19:56 Seroster Think it was a part of old electric crud. Just thrown there
19:57 astro73|roam somebody was stupid enough to short a 1F cap?
19:58 Seroster Assuming it was empty first...
19:58 Electricguy LOL! http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/36561_10150705176688386_190558433385_9624094_904510326_n.jpg
20:01 astro73|roam Electricguy: that was a bad joke and you should feel bad.
20:03 Electricguy i don't feel bad for things i do. i thought it was funny. then how you understand the joke is not my problem at all :)
20:03 astro73|roam i understood. I hung my head. I groaned.
20:04 * Electricguy checks his giveashitometer.. nope.. not a single shit was given
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20:10 Electricguy hardcore in-circuit serial programming! http://forumbilder.se/images/534201285348Pc69e.jpg
20:10 Electricguy http://forumbilder.se/images/994201285630Pe9eb.jpg
20:11 Electricguy http://forumbilder.se/images/404201285606P46cc.jpg
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20:14 tehdark45 Hello
20:16 Electricguy check google
20:16 Electricguy got a big zipper
20:17 tehdark45 lol
20:18 Electricguy ok, disabled indexing on my home server
20:18 Electricguy totally pointless
20:18 Electricguy and the drives spin up from time to time...
20:19 tehdark45 why would you disable a speed enhancer?
20:19 Electricguy because i don't use the search function on the server
20:19 Electricguy i know where the files are
20:19 Druidic_Rifleman I fucking hate liking by posts
20:19 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna be able to Like Half a post and Hate another part of it
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman Like a highlighter so if there is a postwith hald good
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman I can like the good
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman and dislike the bad
20:20 Electricguy i want a dislike button
20:20 Electricguy would use it pretty much
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman Not talking about facebook
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman Jist UGH
20:20 Electricguy i happen to do :)
20:21 Druidic_Rifleman i agree favebook needs a dislikebutton though
20:21 Electricguy yes
20:21 Electricguy and not a stupid fucking time line!
20:22 tehdark45 Druidic_Rifleman, like/dislike by timestamp?
20:22 tehdark45 Or by sentance
20:22 Experimentonomen facebook has some kinks they need to straighten out
20:23 tehdark45 cough timeline
20:24 Druidic_Rifleman dark
20:24 tehdark45 yes druid
20:24 Druidic_Rifleman Say you post a Comment on something
20:24 Druidic_Rifleman I agree with part of the post
20:24 Druidic_Rifleman HATE the rest
20:25 Druidic_Rifleman Why can't i like the specific PArts of it that i like AND dislike the parts i don't like
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20:25 tehdark45 But what if you like first half, hate middle, like end?
20:26 injektion I'm filing an EEOC complaint against my ermployer Friday
20:26 tehdark45 injektion, shit hit the fan>
20:26 tehdark45 ?*
20:27 injektion Yes
20:27 lwq_laptop how why what where?
20:27 injektion I'm not at liberty to comment
20:28 tehdark45 injektion, i think the solutuin is gtfo Gerogia
20:28 tehdark45 :P
20:29 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, hide!
20:29 lwq_laptop dude. just fucking lay off of me. god damnit your a fucking pest sometimes
20:30 tehdark45 you're*
20:31 tehdark45 lol
20:31 tehdark45 hi lwq_
20:31 tehdark45 lwq_laptop,
20:34 injektion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdp46Jen_w
20:34 BotSteve Title: airplane clip.mp4 - YouTube
20:42 Electricguy oh yes! got +13C air going in to my computer. lol
20:43 Electricguy bedtime! night all
20:46 Superphosphate Im off to bed peoples, night :)
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21:09 Seroster Whatcha get for a kilo of copper nowdays?
21:09 Seroster Like five bucks a kilo?
21:12 astro73|roam scrap looks like ~$3.60/lb
21:13 lwq_laptop well i found out why shannons pissed and dumped me
21:13 astro73|roam http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/cu/cu.asp http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/cu_scrap/cu_scrap.asp
21:13 BotSteve Title: Copper Scrap Page
21:13 Seroster So it has dropped quite a bit?
21:13 astro73|roam lwq_laptop: because it's high school and drama happens?
21:13 Seroster lwq_laptop, too small?
21:13 lwq_laptop she says i bring to much drama. and fuck off seroster
21:14 Seroster astro73 Ha! 3.60 a POUND
21:14 Seroster .c 1lb to kg
21:14 BotSteve 0.45359237 kilograms
21:14 Seroster .c 3.6/0.4536
21:14 BotSteve 7.93650794
21:14 Seroster .c $8 to SEK
21:14 BotSteve 53.9032706 Swedish kronor
21:14 Seroster =>
21:15 astro73|roam all i know is copper is pricey
21:15 astro73|roam lwq_laptop: i believe that my statement is applicable
21:15 Seroster It sure is. That is why I want to get rid of the 150kgs I collected the past five or so years
21:15 lwq_laptop shes more dramatic than me
21:15 astro73|roam Seroster: cha-ching!
21:16 Seroster Dead relatives, cleaning out garages, neighbors know I like to tinker...
21:16 Seroster Adds up, and adds up fast.
21:16 astro73|roam lwq_laptop: sadly, i believe her reasoning may only support this conclussion
21:17 Seroster I mean, the focusing coils and degauss coil on a TV is like two pounds, 13bucks '-'
21:17 Seroster Sure I can pretend to be high n mighty and say I've got better things to do, but hey, all the people my age spend their time playing wow or drinking methanol.
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21:42 tehdark45 lwq_laptop, so i guess she wont fit in here, seeing as there is alot of drama around here lol
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21:52 Seroster tehdark45, She doesn't fit on this planet.
21:52 Seroster Drama is pretty much what the human race does.
21:53 Seroster Want some fucking drama? Turn on your tv.  Or if you are too lazy to leave the chair, just check out facebook, and you got a facefull of drama in a heartbeat.
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22:12 astro73|roam today's google doodle is far to amusing
22:14 Seroster o
22:14 Seroster Is there one?
22:14 astro73|roam yup
22:14 astro73|roam about the zipper
22:15 Seroster Swedish google doesn't, and I can't access .com since it redirects to .se
22:15 astro73|roam lame
22:15 astro73|roam it's fun
22:15 Seroster Ah, cute.
22:16 Seroster Saw it on yt
22:18 * astro73|roam plays with google's zipper
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22:25 astro73|roam hi kate
22:25 Katemonster hey astro.
22:26 astro73|roam how's life?
22:29 Katemonster life is... interesting.
22:30 Seroster Cya kate
22:41 astro73|roam that it is
22:46 * tgg|wannabe-afk is fucking ticked off
22:46 masterofmonks Why?
22:46 * Damianz crosses tgg|wannabe-afk
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22:47 tgg|wannabe because life
22:47 Damianz Life sucks.
22:47 tgg|wannabe because hormones
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22:47 idontnowwhattopu hello all
22:47 Damianz I know of better drugs.
22:48 idontnowwhattopu do anyone know why the captains blog is on the livestream and not the livestream-cameras?
22:52 tgg|wannabe because theres nothing going on at the lab....
22:52 tgg|wannabe do you *really* wanna watch a wall?!
22:52 tgg|wannabe and cpro's testing out a system's stability
22:53 Damianz Does said wall have paint drying on it?
22:54 Cprossu Damianz: nope
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22:54 Damianz Oh then it's a boring wall
22:54 Cprossu and our sec cameras are pretty good, but you still can't see the grass grow very well
22:55 Cprossu ...
22:55 Cprossu yet
22:56 Damianz You need some csi skills, they can make cameras bend around corners and invert their image to see hairs :D
22:56 einball I can get no sleep
22:56 Cprossu they can also use a vb4 API to backtrace you Damianz
22:57 Cprossu that's how good they are =P
22:57 Damianz Oh yeah, the power of vb.
22:57 einball Panzers on russian soil a thunder in the east ...
22:58 Damianz Just remember, according to numbers we're all hackers who don't want to be overheard :D
22:58 einball Nice lines out there
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23:05 egrsteve mornign all
23:05 einball hi egrsteve
23:05 einball its 01:06 in here
23:05 * BitViper sends steve a new watch
23:05 egrsteve hi ein
23:06 egrsteve new watch?
23:06 egrsteve you can't send a new watch when I don't have a watch
23:06 BitViper yeah, your sense of time seems to be off =P
23:06 BitViper ok, new cell phone then =P, or maybe not
23:08 einball crazy
23:08 einball I see people in youtube videos from the us I've been talking to in c-base
23:08 einball crazy
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23:22 tehdark45 Cprossu, It is creating a GUI in VB to track the killers IP
23:26 Cprossu sure
23:26 BitViper hey Cprossu, pc cooling, am i correct that its best to have more fans directed outward than inward, or do i have that backward
23:27 Cprossu honestly it has less to do with how many and more to do with the path
23:27 Cprossu this includes what the pc's enviroment is
23:27 Cprossu especially when it's locked inside a desk, kiosk, media furniture, etc
23:28 BitViper well that would explain why everyone has a different answer, ive always just added fans where the flow makes sense, as you indicate
23:28 Cprossu generally I like to keep my cases at a little bit of positive pressure
23:28 eadthem if its a dusty enviroment it might be better tohave more pointing in to give the case positive pressure  and then filter the air
23:28 BitViper guess it's worked, ive never had a computer cook itself
23:28 Cprossu it's just common sense.
23:28 eadthem ya positive pressure is also good for the power supply
23:28 NeWtoz if you've had a computer cook itself you are doing something very very wrong
23:28 BitViper heh, common sense still exists ?
23:29 Cprossu it happens NeWtoz when things are going right too
23:29 Cprossu lol
23:29 Cprossu you cannot account for somone elses mistake
23:29 BitViper NeWtoz : ive had a couple people call me to fix things and i pull apart their computer to find dust SPONGES !!!!
23:29 eadthem the biggist thing is the side air scoop for the cpu
23:29 Cprossu (eg overloading a VRM, not providing it a heatsink, then putting it next to capacitors that aren't rated well
23:29 eadthem take off the funnle or collapse it all the way
23:29 Cprossu air scoop for the cpu works well, however,
23:30 Cprossu you can reverse the fan
23:30 eadthem if its right over the cpu fan and someone blocks the intake with say a pece of paper
23:30 Cprossu and create some fun things
23:30 BitViper i put an intake fan between the case and my funnel
23:30 Cprossu I remember one media box
23:30 Cprossu where that's the only place I could go with most of the heat
23:30 Cprossu (out the center fan duct lol)
23:31 Cprossu it lined up perfectly with a hole in the entertainment center
23:31 BitViper lol nice
23:31 eadthem its also generaly better to have your outgoing fans at the top and incomming fans at the bottom
23:32 Cprossu hey I picked up a 24" lcd monitor for $10 broken
23:32 Cprossu power supply looks shot but everything else looks ok
23:32 Cprossu psu is a '4H.L2K02.A00'
23:32 Cprossu looks like it blew a cap and a fet
23:32 Cprossu and thus the fuse
23:33 Cprossu the 'elite' fuses onboard inspire confidence lol
23:33 Cprossu 'Dell 2407WFPb'
23:33 Thermoelectric Most of the monitors I've picked up blow FET's in the backlight inverter section.
23:34 Cprossu the backlight section looks sparkly new
23:34 Cprossu this one blew a fet on the primary psu
23:35 Cprossu P5D914, K3502
23:35 Cprossu are identifying marks on the fet
23:35 Cprossu the cap appears to be dead shorted
23:35 Thermoelectric Lucky, that's quite a nice monitor too, lots of inputs to use.
23:35 Cprossu (120uF @ 450V)
23:35 Thermoelectric http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/209730/FUJI/2SK3502-01MR.html
23:35 BotSteve Title: 2SK3502-01MR pdf, 2SK3502-01MR description, 2SK3502-01MR datasheets, 2SK3502-01MR view ::: ALLDATASHEET :::
23:35 Cprossu it is a rather nice monitor with a relatively easy fix it seems
23:38 Cprossu oooh fun
23:38 Cprossu http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=178133
23:38 BotSteve Title: Dell 2407WFPb Monitor - Bad Cap - Page 4 - Badcaps Forums
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23:39 injektion I was bored http://goput.it/r4c.png
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23:52 * egrsteve is back
23:54 Thermoelectric Welcome back.

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