Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-05-13

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00:00 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
00:09 tonsofpcs and backup before.
00:09 tonsofpcs 'resizing' partitions never goes well.
00:12 HighMan Backup? Nahh to lazy
00:12 HighMan I hope it goes well.
00:16 BatSteve Hope!  The cheaper, crappier alternative to preparedness!
00:19 tonsofpcs speaking  of cheaper, crappier alternatives... I now have a sillyscope :D
00:19 HighMan :P
00:20 HighMan Thankyou BatSteve! xD
00:24 tonsofpcs LBO-520
00:24 BatSteve IO-360
00:24 HighMan ISO? xD Idk
00:24 tonsofpcs I need to get a probe or probe set
00:25 tonsofpcs oscope, not airplane engine....
00:25 BatSteve Sorry, I'm only good at one thing.
00:25 tonsofpcs lol
00:26 tonsofpcs so get a sim hooked up :-p
00:26 HighMan Picoscope!
00:35 Thermoelectric 336 words... Mmm, only 1664 words left!
00:36 BatSteve You know, that would be a great plugin for MS Word...when you've typed a particular amount of words, an alert box pops up.
00:36 HighMan Do you have a story? xD
00:37 Thermoelectric I agree BatSteve, although that could also show you you've still got 7/8 of the thing left to do. -.-
00:39 HighMan Have fun on your Essay!
00:39 Thermoelectric Mmm, I'll try. Should have started it earlier though, considering the draft is due tomorrow. :P
00:39 HighMan lolololol
00:40 * wannabe1987 is back from her nap....
00:40 * BatSteve never wrote drafts, only outlines
00:40 BatSteve idea -> outline -> final
00:40 BatSteve drafts are a carryover from the typewriter era
00:40 HighMan Idea -> Essay, I don't like outlines.
00:40 tonsofpcs BatSteve: aren't drafts what you get at the bar?
00:41 wannabe1987 5 hour nap at that....
00:41 Thermoelectric BatSteve, try telling that to the teachers. :/ Although they are good as they let you get away with not proofreading as much, heh.
00:41 BatSteve HighMan: when your papers are 30-50 pages long, an outline becomes important just so you don't forget all the things you wanted to talk about
00:41 HighMan What's the paper about? AND DO YOUR WORK! LOL
00:42 HighMan Ok that is true... I've never wroten a 30-50 page essay before so I wouldn't know.
00:42 BatSteve Yeah, I never did in high school (or even undergrad college) either
00:42 BatSteve so I didn't see the use for them
00:42 Thermoelectric It's an engineering assignment writeup, which was about crash safety. We made cars which we put eggs in and tried to stop them smashing.
00:42 tonsofpcs also, surprising, ratshack still has an oscope in their catalog
00:43 HighMan Sounds like fun, the experiment that is
00:43 tonsofpcs they make these things called egg cartons.... *ducks*
00:43 * HighMan Eggs tonsofpc's house
00:43 Thermoelectric Yup. Someones egg smashed in their foam thing and it smelt like dead rat after a few days...
00:43 tonsofpcs rotten eggs like burnt sulfur...
00:43 HighMan ewhh
00:45 HighMan One thing about not having a menu bar in chrome is that it's hard to do aero snap.
00:48 HighMan Let's hope resizing goes well!
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00:50 wannabe1987 ...
00:50 wannabe1987 hi Scozza
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01:11 wannabe1987 lol @ JA12's screen shot :)
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01:23 livefiretj ...
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01:24 wannabe1987 i'm back
01:25 Thermoelectric Welcome back.
01:26 wannabe1987 thanks
01:26 wannabe1987 silly lab internets
01:26 wannabe1987 blame comcrap
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01:53 detrix ggr_ you at the keyboard?
01:59 wannabe1987 no
01:59 wannabe1987 what do you need?
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02:03 Thermoelectric 2000 words didn't sound like that much when we got this assignment. -.-
02:03 lwq1996 lol
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02:17 * Katemonster needs a hug
02:18 * wannabe1987 gives Katemonster an e hug
02:18 * lwq1996 hugs katemonster
02:20 lwq1996 i rented source code
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02:52 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
02:52 BatSteve heya
02:53 wannabe1987 whats up?
02:54 BatSteve I have a 50 cent piece and I'm trying to see if I can get it to consistently break the sound barrier when I flip it.  I think it's working.
02:54 wannabe1987 ....
02:54 BatSteve I've gotten it to hum when it goes past my ear.  I think the hum might be a tiny sonic boom.  I'm not sure though.
02:55 wannabe1987 interesting
02:55 BatSteve I think to know for sure, I'd need to figure out the rpm of the coin.  I'm not sure how to do that.
02:56 wannabe1987 speed gun?
02:56 BatSteve I think that would just detect the coin itself, rather than the edge of the coin, which is what you need to measure rpm
02:56 SparkyProjects Video it, put the vid in an editor, count the tuns compared to time
02:56 SparkyProjects That's the mythbusters way ;)
02:57 BatSteve ::nod::
02:57 BatSteve Need to get my hands on a camera
02:58 wannabe1987 the lab?
02:58 wannabe1987 lol
02:58 SparkyProjects Mobile phone cam ?
03:02 BatSteve Mobile phone cam is probably my best bet
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03:04 tehdark45 hello peoples
03:04 wannabe1987 eeeee /runs away
03:04 tehdark45 come back here
03:04 tehdark45 :P
03:05 * lwq1996 hits it with a bat
03:05 tehdark45 a Hackbat ?
03:05 tehdark45 :P
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03:08 tonsofpcs hi
03:11 lwq1996 damnit he just left and i need to ask him something
03:12 tehdark45 lol
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03:19 lwq1996 i want to punch mit romney in the face because i believe that mairage should be between somone you love
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03:35 tonsofpcs tgg|yNos: !
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03:39 Hydroelectric So it appears as though my laptop has run out of battery while Iḿ not at home. Hmm...
03:52 * exor674 wonders how she managed to fuck up that badly
03:53 exor674 my alarm just went off. Somehow I sent it for 9:46pm instead of AM
03:53 exor674 ... that fuckup is more spectacular given I use 24hr time
03:57 lwq1996 lol
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03:58 tonsofpcs exor674: you could blame zozo, no one would know
04:00 exor674 if zozo knows the password to my phone, we've got bigger problems
04:00 BatSteve I'm commander shepard, and I always blame Zozo for everything
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04:00 Guardianzozo gah the pings!
04:01 tonsofpcs lol
04:01 tonsofpcs next you're going to waake egrsteve so he can return to lurking...
04:01 Guardianzozo lol
04:02 lwq1996 egrsteve is probally strapped into the orbitron sleeping
04:02 tonsofpcs heh
04:02 tonsofpcs probably
04:02 lwq1996 that would be interesting experiment to do
04:02 Guardianzozo just came from there
04:02 Guardianzozo hes not in it lol
04:02 tonsofpcs what, leave it unlocked with him sleeping in it?
04:02 eadthem egrsteve spend a lot of time in the orbitron?
04:03 Guardianzozo some days
04:03 lwq1996 put a camera on it and let someone sleep in it with it unlocked to see what it does
04:03 * tehdark45 locks lwq1996 in and spins it
04:03 lwq1996 pft. doesnt make you dizzy
04:04 * tehdark45 runs away
04:04 tehdark45 lwq1996 is now alone
04:04 Thermoelectric It would be awkward to sleep in, though, as you'd end up hanging over the bar around you.
04:04 tehdark45 stuck
04:04 eadthem so whens moose gonna ride it?
04:04 lwq1996 she doesnt like fun :P
04:05 lwq1996 ITS SUPERMANS BIRTHDAY TODAY
04:05 wannabe1987 ...
04:06 tehdark45 wannabe1987 is stuck in a room with Lee and Highman
04:06 tehdark45 :P
04:06 lwq1996 ummmm
04:07 tehdark45 lol
04:07 tehdark45 what will they do?
04:07 * wannabe1987 locks one in orbitron, the other in a car on the lift, there.
04:08 tehdark45 you are stuck in a room, how can you get to those?
04:08 wannabe1987 noone said what room
04:08 tehdark45 you should have said hy on thumper and lee on gemini
04:09 lwq1996 im not afraid
04:09 tehdark45 that would be a show
04:09 tehdark45 what are you eminem?
04:09 tehdark45 :P
04:09 lwq1996 to take a stand
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04:10 lwq1996 thats all i remember from the song
04:10 tehdark45 lol
04:16 wannabe1987 don't forget to call or talk to your mothers today....it is amercian mothers day today :)
04:16 lwq1996 wannabe1987 going to be a mother to be? :P
04:17 tehdark45 lol you made her ping out
04:17 lwq1996 lol
04:17 tehdark45 also it is 9pm
04:17 tehdark45 so it isnt mothers day
04:17 tehdark45 lol
04:18 lwq1996 we're ahead of you
04:18 tehdark45 really? :O
04:18 tehdark45 when did this happen?
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04:20 tehdark45 wb to the internet
04:20 wannabe1987 thanks.  it was scary out there with out it....
04:21 tehdark45 did you cry?
04:21 tehdark45 painc? run around?
04:23 tehdark45 I know lwq1996 would
04:24 lwq1996 ik i cant even stand 4days without the internet
04:24 wannabe1987 .
04:24 tehdark45 4 days is pretty long. So you can go 3 days?
04:24 tehdark45 :P
04:25 wannabe1987 no.  watched dr who :P
04:25 tehdark45 lol
04:25 lwq1996 lol
04:25 tehdark45 so you watch dr who for 5 minutes
04:26 wannabe1987 no.  still watching
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04:47 lwq1996 hi lisa
04:50 ThunderJuggs hi
04:51 lwq1996 i should go to bed
04:52 lwq1996 night lisa, wannabe1987, tehdark45
04:52 ThunderJuggs night
04:52 BatSteve same.  I am on wink #39 myself.
04:52 wannabe1987 night lee, bats
04:52 wannabe1987 and hi lisa :D
04:52 * lwq1996 passes out
04:56 ThunderJuggs Hi
04:56 wannabe1987 hows you?
04:56 ThunderJuggs im ok
04:57 wannabe1987 working?
04:57 ThunderJuggs yup
04:57 wannabe1987 yay!
04:57 ThunderJuggs did you put your moose hands up for moose today?
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05:37 wannabe1987 yep
05:38 wannabe-zz night guys....can't stop yawning.....
05:38 wannabe-zz hi Toastdude
05:38 wannabe-zz bye Toastdude
05:38 Toastdude Hi
05:38 Toastdude Bye Kelly
05:38 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
05:38 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw BatSteve 0.77 hours ago at 2012-05-13 04:52:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:38:46 UTC
05:38 Toastdude .seen lwq1996
05:38 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw lwq1996 0.77 hours ago at 2012-05-13 04:52:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:38:54 UTC
05:38 wannabe-zz he went to bed
05:38 wannabe-zz he also went to bed
05:44 Hydroelectric .seen Thermoelectric
05:44 BotSteve Hydroelectric: I last saw Thermoelectric 1.67 hours ago at 2012-05-13 04:04:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:44:16 UTC
05:44 Hydroelectric Lets see if he is still alive?
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06:02 Thermoelectric Hydroelectric, Yeah, I'm still here, sortof.
06:13 Thermoelectric Guess he wasn't though.
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07:43 Electricguy morning fellas
07:52 Experimentonomen g'mornin geeks, peepz & odd ones ;)
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07:53 Experimentonomen guten morgen Chipguy
07:53 Chipguy morning
07:55 Electricguy morning Chipguy :)
07:57 Electricguy LOL! pretty true... :P http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/149348_461869940506880_264986813528528_95567241_1905354638_n.jpg
07:58 Experimentonomen haha
07:59 Experimentonomen and in canada is is "our flag is bigger than yours" :P
07:59 Electricguy lol yeh :P
08:00 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crK6JdhKDhA&amp;feature=plcp <-- :P
08:00 BotSteve Title: Mindcrack Prank Wars - EP10 - O Canada - YouTube
08:03 Electricguy HAHAHAHAHA!! XD
08:06 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSnjoRcmnTM&amp;feature=plcp <-- the reaction :P
08:06 BotSteve Title: Mindcrack S01 E04 Damn Beef! - YouTube
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08:08 Electricguy LOLOLOLOL :P
08:09 tehdark45 lololol
08:09 tehdark45 wait wat?
08:11 tehdark45 Am I that funny electricguy?
08:11 tehdark45 :P
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08:11 Electricguy nah,, i loed at something else.. :)
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08:16 tehdark45 it's abit late to be joing isnt it wannabe1987
08:16 tehdark45 lol
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08:30 Experimentonomen tehdark45, your a dryball ;p
08:31 tehdark45 wth is a dryball?
08:31 Experimentonomen ;p
08:31 Experimentonomen no humour ;P
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08:37 Electricguy you know you need bigger power resistors when they desolder themself from the circuit... XD
08:40 * Electricguy swaps the bunch of little carbon film resistors to a big wire wound ceramic resistor
08:49 Electricguy lol.. even the wire wound 20Watt resistor get burning hot :P
08:58 Electricguy :3 now it can play heavy industrial rave really loud without clipping :D
09:01 Electricguy a video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKPIG-u__Gw
09:01 BotSteve Title: Ye olde class A amplifier MOAR UPDATE! - YouTube
09:16 Electricguy LOL! http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/548475_454998007847722_399906733356850_1869144_1426777474_n.jpg
09:19 Electricguy haha! my big bench PSU runs cooler with more load..
09:19 Electricguy less saturation of the big ass trafo inside.. :P
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09:21 Experimentonomen too bad the camera mic sounds like crap
09:21 Electricguy yeah
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09:23 Deeee sup
09:25 Electricguy tinkering with my class A amp
09:25 Deeee what's the deal with class A/B/C/D amps?
09:25 Deeee i don't know much about amps
09:28 Electricguy class A is very inefficient but sounds very good
09:29 Electricguy B is pretty efficient and sounds horrible at low volumes.. :P
09:29 Electricguy then you got class AB which pretty much all commercial amps use
09:30 Electricguy it runs in class A up to a certain level and then hops over to B at loud volumes as you can't hear that dist. so you get a pretty efficient amp that sounds good
09:30 Electricguy never heard of class C though..
09:30 Electricguy class D is a digital amplifier which is extremely efficient but sounds a bit hard
09:30 Deeee mmk interesting
09:31 Deeee got one of those old 70's/80's amps and speakers with the wood panelling
09:31 Electricguy like my little class A test amp.. it's only one channel atm. it pulls 73Watts constantly and gives around 10Watts out.. lol
09:31 Experimentonomen class C is used in RF amplifiers
09:32 Electricguy ahh oki
09:32 Deeee wondering if building a new amp will make a difference or if the speakers are just shit
09:32 Electricguy whats the brand on the speakers?
09:32 Deeee nothing visible
09:33 Electricguy mkay.. hmm.. then they can be either crap, half decent or good.. :P
09:33 Deeee might have to try and pull the front panel off of one and see
09:33 Electricguy whats the brand and model on the amp?
09:34 Deeee brb i'll go have a look
09:34 Electricguy oki
09:35 Experimentonomen this amp prototype is weird, only a rail voltage drop of two volts is enuf to completely shut something off and prevent aaudio from going through or act a bit like a class c amp
09:36 Electricguy weird
09:36 Electricguy how does a class C work?
09:37 Electricguy pulls no power when not modulated?
09:37 Experimentonomen pretty much
09:37 Electricguy oki
09:38 Experimentonomen it only catches the peaks of the input waveform
09:38 Electricguy ahh ok
09:38 Electricguy heh.. my class A bottoms pretty hard on the lower period than on the higher
09:39 Electricguy harder*
09:39 Deeee this is the amp http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/view_images.php?cat=Amplifiers&amp;catnick=&amp;cfid=648982942&amp;image_id=2869949
09:39 BotSteve Title: NAD Model 60 Integrated Amp in Excellent condition Photo - Canuck Audio Mart
09:39 Deeee NAD model 60
09:39 Electricguy or, it bottoms much easier on the negative than the positive..
09:39 Electricguy ooh a NAD :P
09:39 Electricguy thats not a crap amp
09:39 Deeee 70W apparently
09:39 Electricguy if that sounds like shit.. it's your speakers
09:39 Deeee hmm
09:40 Electricguy NAD is far from crap
09:40 Deeee might be interesting to get/build some new speakers then
09:40 Electricguy yeah
09:40 Electricguy to be really vintage.. look for some big Cerwin Vegas ;P
09:40 Deeee haha
09:41 Experimentonomen i have old 70'2-90's speakers, sounds very good
09:41 Electricguy if you get a pair of cerwin vegas in the H.E.D model range you pretty much got a system that can play as loud as a small Pa system... XD
09:42 Electricguy here we got some classics :D http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cerwin-Vega-DX-9-Close-to-Mint-/130692072280?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&amp;hash=item1e6ddac358#ht_1008wt_1189
09:42 BotSteve Title: Cerwin Vega DX-9 Close to Mint | eBay
09:42 Electricguy or these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cerwin-Vega-RE-25-Main-Stereo-Speakers-excellent-sounding-looking-/200757130677?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&amp;hash=item2ebe0eb5b5#ht_500wt_1204
09:42 BotSteve Title: Cerwin Vega RE-25 Main / Stereo Speakers excellent sounding/looking | eBay
09:43 Electricguy you really get what you pay for with these too.. even if they are a liiittle expensive :)
09:43 Deeee hmm yeah i'm in Australia though so idk how hard they are to get here
09:43 Electricguy mkay
09:43 Electricguy check locally then
09:44 Electricguy we got a pair of smaller Cerwin Vegas in the garage.. on a 2x60Watt amp.. damn.. it's the loudest 120Watts i have ever heard :P
09:44 Electricguy and it sounds really good
09:47 Deeee yeah, i asipire to get some good audio gear some time. Just too much other shit to spend money on :P
09:47 Electricguy hehehe very true :P
09:48 Deeee i hate being interested in to many different things. It's annoying
09:48 Electricguy also, if your amp sounds like it got little "punch" in the lower register you may want to check the PSU caps
09:48 Electricguy cause on a amp of that age the caps can dry out and it can sound a bit tinny
09:49 Deeee hmm ok i'll check it out
09:49 Deeee i thought it was dying a while ago but the pots and switches were just dirty
09:49 Deeee bit of spray and it fixed it
09:50 Electricguy hehe okey
10:07 Deeee thanks for the info anyway
10:07 Deeee looks like i shall seek out new speakers
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10:16 Seroster börkj.
10:18 Experimentonomen du är en burk! :P
10:18 Deeee lolwat
10:19 Experimentonomen Deeee, just teasing Seroster alittle :P
10:21 Experimentonomen Deeee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDNewUCC3M <-- my main audio rig
10:21 BotSteve Title: Lenco L-76 turntable - YouTube
10:38 einball :)
10:43 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/user/TheElectricnoob?feature=mhee <-- my utoob
10:43 BotSteve Title: TheElectricnoob - YouTube
10:43 slamshed_ woo hoo i used to have a set of vegas, they were great!
10:43 slamshed_ vegas and rotel amp (-:
10:43 Electricguy nice :P
10:44 Electricguy rotel make some good stuff
10:44 slamshed_ yep, still have a vintage one in the shed, never misses a beat!
10:44 Electricguy nice :P
10:46 slamshed_ itś hooked up to a pair of mordaunt short monitors, cool shed tunes!
10:46 Electricguy cool :P
10:47 slamshed_ might even move it to the makerspace for hacking background music (-:
10:47 Electricguy hehe okey
10:47 Electricguy yeah everything is more fun with nice music :P
10:47 slamshed_ wee started shipping tools in, drill press, bearing press, router table, bandsaw wne in over the weekend
10:48 slamshed_ next job is the mill but iĺl need about 5 people to shift it
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10:52 mashpriborintorg hiya
10:52 Deeee hi
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11:08 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon mash
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11:11 mashpriborintorg hi
11:11 mashpriborintorg well these 3 fleamarkets were not successfoull, I only found a car A/C control panel
11:15 * Experimentonomen uploads a vid of the prototype hes werkin on
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11:24 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTABEUVNBRE
11:24 BotSteve Title: Mooly the SE IPS Amplifier - YouTube
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11:26 Electricguy ok, got a pin header soldered onto a SD card.. :D
11:26 Electricguy gonna try around with Arduinos and SD cards
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11:32 Electricguy i need 3 3.3k and 3 1.8k resistors...
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12:44 Hydroelectric Stupid Telstra. Why must you mess with my internet?
12:45 CaptainNiobe because theyr'e asses, hydro... lol...
12:45 Hydroelectric Exactly.
12:45 CaptainNiobe i'm with them and i'm sick of the overseas speed issues
12:45 Hydroelectric It's just crap in general.
12:50 CaptainNiobe i seriously need to start looking for another isp... shit, my modem died (or i thought it did, serious speed issues whereas another modem was fine), they sent a new one out... within a month it had the same issue... so i asked for another one, that one died, literally died, 4 days out of the box... so
12:50 CaptainNiobe i got another modem, and it did the same thing as the other 2 that still worked... so then i wondered if a factory reset would fix it... it did the trick, but every time i change settings on the modem, within a week to a month later it suffers a drastic speed loss - and this is
12:50 CaptainNiobe on the $219 modem! (bigpond branded)
12:51 Hydroelectric Wow, quite interesting how Telstra seems to make no attempt to fix their own errors.
12:52 CaptainNiobe i know, it's ridiculous. personally i don't care about the modem that actually failed, occasionally that happened with electronics. but having so damned many that lose speed after settings changes? :-\
12:54 Hydroelectric I don't really see how to would affect the speed though.
12:54 CaptainNiobe another pita with these modems: theoretically, you own them once you buy them. so why cann't i use them on other isps? (HSBNE had a failing modem, i supplied one of the others, but they're with iinet i think, and the modem didn't work for them)
12:54 Hydroelectric Interesting.
12:55 CaptainNiobe neither do i... i don't know how they screwed them up, but without fail after a while, the speed i'm getting goes from 18mb/s+ to less than 10... factory resetting the modem takes the speed right back up again... :-\
12:57 BitViper hey CaptainNiobe
12:57 mashpriborintorg i got problems with my cable modem too... random synchro loss. After bug hunting, it apperaad that everything was the the provider's side, not mine. waste of time.
12:58 Hydroelectric mashpriborintorg: That happened to me earlier tonight. I think I had a total of 6 drop outs for a period of 2 minutes each time.
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12:58 Hydroelectric Really pissed me off.
12:58 Hydro-Sleep Night all.
12:59 Hydro-Sleep School in the morning. :-(
12:59 HighCell Finally! Windows 8 7 Nd Ubuntu works!
12:59 HighCell Hydro, you done with paper?
12:59 CaptainNiobe the very first time it happened, i switched between the first such modem and the 2wire (another bigpond supplied, bloody perfect - other than the issues it developed communicating wih the computer :P), 2wire got 19mb/s, 30 seconds later the thompson got 8mb/s, 30 seconds after
12:59 CaptainNiobe that, the 2wire was at 19, 30 seconds after that, the thompson was at 8 (or 6 that time)... kinda points to a modem issue :P
12:59 CaptainNiobe and hey BitViper :)
12:59 BitViper CaptainNiobe : got ringtone created and installed, works great :)
13:00 HighCell Hhrlisa's ring tone lolololol
13:00 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! has anyone heard it yet BitViper? :P
13:00 BitViper HighCell : actually havent done that one yet, thanks for reminding me. no the one to which i refer is the austrilia weather alert siren, made into ringtone
13:01 BitViper CaptainNiobe : just me
13:01 HighCell Lolol, the one that goes off randomly?
13:01 Hydro-Sleep HighCell: Paper?
13:01 CaptainNiobe HighCell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4gPCLzLO8
13:01 BotSteve Title: Standard Emergency Warning Signal - YouTube
13:01 HighCell Essay hydro.
13:02 Hydro-Sleep Engineering?
13:02 HighCell Yahoo
13:02 HighCell *yah
13:02 Hydro-Sleep I did about 400 - 500 words. I think Thermoelectric did quite a bit more.
13:02 HighCell Cool siren sound
13:02 CaptainNiobe you and thermo in the same classes, Hydro-Sleep?
13:02 Hydro-Sleep Yea.
13:02 HighCell Oh ok, good lick on that
13:03 Hydro-Sleep Same school.
13:03 CaptainNiobe sweet :)
13:03 HighCell *luck
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13:03 Hydro-Sleep Also, what did you mean by Windows 8 7 Nd HighCell?
13:03 HighCell Dual booting windows 7, 8, 2000 and Ubuntu.
13:04 HighCell I never really got it to work xD
13:04 Hydro-Sleep Not bad.
13:04 Hydro-Sleep I should try Ubuntu and 98.
13:05 HighCell Haven't used win 2000 In a while.
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13:06 Hydro-Sleep Oh well, night.
13:06 HighCell Night!
13:07 CaptainNiobe goodnight Hydro-Sleep, sleep well and sweet dreams :)
13:09 HighCell ({}).
13:11 HighCell .c Sqrt(12345678987654321)
13:11 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
13:11 HighCell .WA Sqrt(12345678987654321)
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13:28 Cprossu so what's up everyone?
13:29 HighCell Updating Ubuntu lol
13:29 Cprossu I've gotten to the lab early today so I can deal with comcast ;)
13:29 HighCell Oh God.
13:29 Cprossu our inet has been terr-i-ble
13:29 Cprossu 80% packet loss terrible
13:30 HighCell What are they going to do and holy shit balls O_O
13:30 tonsofpcs hi
13:30 HighCell O_O_O_O
13:30 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs we got the stuff and it was opened
13:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 80% paccket loss sounds a lot like one interface set to auto-neg, one not
13:31 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yay
13:31 Cprossu the interference handbook rocks
13:31 Cprossu tonsofpcs it's at their end
13:31 Cprossu on 2 different cable modems none-the-less
13:31 Cprossu after the first hop
13:31 tonsofpcs yea, i figured the hamms would like it
13:31 HighCell new CB
13:31 tonsofpcs link?
13:31 HighCell On phone sorry
13:31 Cprossu give me a moment heh
13:32 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnI3S2ZYk3o&amp;list=UUbaAyXYMnbQu0BGGPbvxHsw&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plcp
13:32 Cprossu I need to find a mtr screenshot worth uploading
13:32 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 5-12-12 Geekhouse 5 Demolition Saturday - YouTube
13:32 tonsofpcs Cprossu: so any idea what's happening with the CPU or the button? (or the postcard)
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13:35 Cprossu tonsofpcs: http://oi49.tinypic.com/16a4hfp.jpg
13:35 Cprossu the button I am not sure of, the postcard went in chris's office in the window ;D
13:36 Cprossu btw tonsofpcs ain't that traceroute scary?
13:36 tonsofpcs nice
13:36 tonsofpcs watching blog now
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13:39 tonsofpcs Cprossu: no, I don't need another, thanks though :)
13:39 Cprossu heheh
13:42 tonsofpcs so apparently fred rogers made chris's day
13:42 tonsofpcs (and yes, he did save the VCR and TV)
13:42 tonsofpcs (he told congress to screw off)
13:43 Cprossu nice
13:44 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q is the PBS/TV saving...
13:44 BotSteve Title: Mister Rogers defending PBS to the US Senate - YouTube
13:44 HighCell Wow...  upgrades for Ubuntu take a while, 2hrs
13:45 tonsofpcs oh, the VCR thing was in court
13:47 tonsofpcs he talked in the betamax case and told off universal (and supported sony... as crazy as that is)
13:49 mashpriborintorg bigass betamax vcrs are great fun  to take apart  :D
13:50 Cprossu fred rodgers saved video recording, porn however won the VHS war ;)
13:50 tonsofpcs not really
13:50 tonsofpcs JVC licensing its technology v Sony holding back won the VHS war.
13:51 tonsofpcs Sony (finally) learned their lesson and won the Blu Ray war through licensing.
13:52 Cprossu hd-dvd and bluray are horrible support wise though.
13:54 tonsofpcs huh?
13:59 mashpriborintorg Experimentonomen, Electricguy, you may like it: http://youtu.be/fMFEkU2JnEY
13:59 BotSteve Title: qsc plx 3602 amplifier teardown and basic explanation of operation - YouTube
14:01 Experimentonomen blegh a kid :/
14:03 mashpriborintorg he seems to be quite aware tho
14:03 Experimentonomen that guy sounds like he cant be more than 14-15
14:12 HighCell .d daemon
14:12 HighCell .define daemon
14:12 BotSteve daemon — noun: 1. A demon, 2. (Greek mythology) A lesser deity between men and gods, 3. One's inner spirit or daimon
14:13 mashpriborintorg ...and the most annoying one is Mailer Daemon.
14:14 tonsofpcs but SMTP is fun....
14:15 mashpriborintorg hmmm seems several yt channels started doing teardown videos in the last few weeks
14:15 HighCell Ubuntu has devils w
14:16 HighCell *devils?
14:16 tonsofpcs oh, cool, this scope has TV coupling
14:17 tonsofpcs (and triggering)
14:18 mashpriborintorg oh god, one more awesome yt channel, theEprom9, at the first glance seems to have lots of teardown and fun rambling
14:19 * mashpriborintorg 's gf will not approve
14:19 tonsofpcs time can go to 0.2 uS which is 5MHz.... I'm guessing that's the width of the screen  though.....
14:21 tonsofpcs oo, I can get audio onto a BNC pretty easily...
14:24 detrix something funny to watch:  http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/05/welcome-to-life-the-singularity-ruined-by-lawyers/
14:24 BotSteve Title: Welcome to Life: the singularity, ruined by lawyers | jwz
14:29 * Experimentonomen cooks some fish sticks in the oven
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14:31 tonsofpcs scope smokes.... I guess I don't have one.
14:32 tonsofpcs Cprossu: so why were you looking for me at 2am?
14:46 Sgt_Lemming yay, now to start the long process of backing up all my shit, so I can start the longer process of reinstalling windows and all my shit!
14:48 mashpriborintorg and doing all the windows updates... see you back in 3 months :p
14:48 Sgt_Lemming windows 7 isn't that bad
14:49 Experimentonomen windows 7 is the best version MS have released
14:50 Experimentonomen xp is the next best
14:50 BitViper Experimentonomen : DOS was the best version of 'windows' ever released
14:51 Experimentonomen dos is not even a OS, its more of a interface to let u access the hdd/fdd
14:51 Sgt_Lemming actually I still reckon 2k was the best
14:51 Sgt_Lemming so nice and light
14:52 BitViper Experimentonomen : look up the def of 'operating system', thats EXACTLY what DOS was
14:52 Sgt_Lemming I wish they would release another bare bones workstation OS like that
14:52 Experimentonomen dos = disk operating system
14:52 BitViper windows is NOT an OS, its an OS with a shitload of apps integrated and included
14:53 tonsofpcs WindowsNT is an OS....
14:54 BitViper with a crapload of shit on top of it, just like xp/etc
14:54 Sgt_Lemming every OS comes with apps these days BitViper
14:54 Sgt_Lemming there are no PURE os's anymore
14:54 Sgt_Lemming unless you roll your own
14:54 Sgt_Lemming bbiaw
14:54 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : certainly, but you cant call any "windows" version, or most linux versions (ubuntu/etc) an os, because they ARENT
14:55 BitViper platforms would probably be the best definition
15:00 Experimentonomen blegh just great now this ish have set a limit to 200kbit as well :(
15:00 Experimentonomen isp*
15:02 tonsofpcs BitViper: Windows7 is an OS.  It also happens to come with a ton of crap that isn't an OS.
15:04 BitViper sure, go ahead, tell ms that you want to buy 'just windowsXX w/o the extra stuff', good luck with that. that ton of crap IS windowsXX
15:04 BitViper or ubuntu, etc
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15:11 Sgt_Lemming windows is an os, windows 7 is a platform
15:11 tonsofpcs 'operating environment'
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15:33 wannabe1987 .wiki rubens tube
15:33 BotSteve "The Rubens' tube, also known as the standing wave flame tube, or simply flame tube, is a physics experiment demonstrating a standing wave." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubens_tube
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15:37 HighMan Hey ynos
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15:42 Sgt_Lemming lo SparkyProjects
15:44 SparkyProjects Hi
15:44 Sgt_Lemming how goes it?
15:45 SparkyProjects Pretty quiet, how about you ?
15:47 tonsofpcs methinks ynos just left himself logged into a machine at tgg
15:48 Seroster SparkyProjects! =D
15:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you still see packet losses that high through a tunnel?  maybe comcast is doing something... comcastic
16:06 mashpriborintorg I love the way the guy is squealing when he opens it up: http://youtu.be/46ghi0uD-vs
16:06 BotSteve Title: HP 3575A Gain-Phase Meter Teardown - YouTube
16:09 HighMan Lo and Behold! It's a sparky!
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16:29 Leepod Hey
16:33 Sgt_Lemming sorry SparkyProjects, got distracted on minecraft
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16:34 Sgt_Lemming yay, only 20gb left to backup... on this drive >_<
16:35 SparkyProjects Everyone is distracted by minecraft :P
16:35 Sgt_Lemming yeah
16:35 HighMan I haven't played in like a month...
16:35 HighMan Except for now lol
16:35 Sgt_Lemming I've been playing heaps of late
16:35 Sgt_Lemming mcau.org
16:36 Sgt_Lemming http://maps.mcau.org:8123/
16:36 BotSteve Title: Minecraft Dynamic Map
16:36 HighMan Holy hell!
16:36 HighMan What is that?
16:37 Sgt_Lemming the map for the server I play on
16:37 HighMan O_O
16:37 Sgt_Lemming http://maps.mcau.org:8123/?worldname=world&amp;mapname=flat&amp;zoom=5&amp;x=-1516.25&amp;y=64&amp;z=497.8750000000001 <--- my base
16:37 BotSteve Title: Minecraft Dynamic Map
16:38 HighMan Is there only aerial?
16:38 tonsofpcs there is no aerial, only zuul
16:38 HighMan ...
16:38 Sgt_Lemming see the bar on the right, click on that then click the icon that looks like a cube
16:39 Sgt_Lemming world is the main world
16:39 Sgt_Lemming gives you a 3D orthographic view
16:39 tonsofpcs HighMan: that's a ghostbusters reference, btw
16:40 HighMan Ghostbusters?...
16:40 HighMan Looks neat
16:40 Sgt_Lemming that huge stone structure is my farm
16:40 HighMan I have small home.
16:40 * HighMan Needs jre7
16:41 Sgt_Lemming when I harvest it, I get 12 stacks of reeds, 6 stacks of wheat, 3 stacks of melons, 3 stacks of pumpkins
16:41 HighMan O_O
16:41 HighMan Manually or by water?
16:41 Sgt_Lemming manually
16:41 Sgt_Lemming doesn't take all that long
16:42 HighMan Why not just make a auto harvester :P
16:42 Sgt_Lemming because I'd need a fucktonne of pistons
16:42 HighMan lololol
16:42 Sgt_Lemming 24 stacks iirc
16:45 HighMan YES! I have myself a hot rice cooker..
16:45 tonsofpcs a hot rice cooker?
16:46 tonsofpcs is there a non-hot kind too?
16:46 HighMan :P
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16:46 MadManMarkAu ...found the issue with my internet connection
16:46 HighMan What's wrong?
16:47 Sgt_Lemming he's in australia, that's what's wrong
16:47 HighMan lol
16:47 MadManMarkAu My ADSL upstream signal is much better quality than my downstream signal. However, the upstream signal has WAAAAY more errors than downstream...
16:47 MadManMarkAu Now, how the hell does that work? xD
16:48 HighMan Wtf did I just do to my minecraft..
16:48 HighMan Everything just got smaller.
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16:55 BitViper teenagers, always with the size issues =P
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17:03 Yrouel hi
17:06 mashpriborintorg hi
17:07 wannabe1987 sup?
17:07 HighMan BitViper, God Damn you
17:07 * BitViper looks innocent
17:07 * HighMan Stabs you. :P
17:10 * BitViper bleeds acid all over HighMan
17:10 Sgt_Lemming woot, 5 stacks of diamonds in my chest
17:11 wannabe1987 ooo aren't you fancy :P
17:11 * HighMan drops BitViper in to a pool and pumps in SO3.
17:11 wannabe1987 .wa so3
17:11 BotSteve sulfite  (ion);formula->SO3(2-), net ionic charge->-2, alternate names->trioxosulfate -> trioxidosulfate -> sulfite anion -> sulfite(2-);ion class->anions -> oxoanions -> polyatomic ions, common sources of ion->zinc sulfite dihydrate  (1 eq) -> silver(I) sulfite  (1 eq) -> potassium sulfite  (1 eq);molar free energy of formation Delta_fG&deg;->aqueous->-486.5 kJ\/mol  (kilojoules per mole), molar heat of formation Delta_fH&deg;->aqueous->-635.5 kJ\
17:12 HighMan Wannabe, H2O + SO3 ----> H2SO4
17:12 HighMan Or, Water Plus SO3 equals Sulfuric Acid
17:12 wannabe1987 .wa h2so4
17:12 BotSteve sulfuric acid;formula->H2SO4, compound formula->H2O4S, name->sulfuric acid;molecular weight->98.078 g\/mol, phase->liquid  (at STP), melting point->10.371 &deg;C, boiling point->279.6 &deg;C, density->1.8305 g\/cm^3, solubility->very soluble  in water;density->1.8305 g\/cm^3, vapor pressure->6&times;10^-5 mmHg, dynamic viscosity->0.021 Pa s  (at 25 &deg;C), surface tension->0.0735 N\/m, refractive index->1.41827;specific heat capacity c_p->liquid->
17:12 wannabe1987 i don't know chemicals!
17:12 HighMan XD
17:12 HighMan Just know it burns.
17:12 Yrouel if I'm not mistaken SO3 is the gas that emanetes from onions when you cut them
17:13 HighMan O_O
17:13 Yrouel which then reacting with the humid environment in the eye makes them irritate
17:13 wannabe1987 fucking onions
17:13 Yrouel but I have to check
17:13 HighMan propanethiol S-oxide
17:13 BitViper screwing onions sounds like a bad idea
17:13 HighMan I know it is NOT sulfuric acid...
17:13 wannabe1987 lol
17:13 wannabe1987 i was told it was sulfur
17:14 BitViper its a sulfur compound as i understand it
17:14 Yrouel When you cut an onion, you break cells, releasing their contents. Amino acid sulfoxides form sulfenic acids. Enzymes that were kept separate now are free to mix with the sulfenic acids to produce propanethiol S-oxide, a volatile sulfur compound that wafts upward toward your eyes. This gas reacts with the water in your tears to form sulfuric acid. The sulfuric acid burns, stimulating your eyes to rel
17:14 Yrouel ease more tears to wash the irritant away.
17:18 wannabe1987 and who thought it'd be a good idea to EAT these things/
17:18 wannabe1987 ?*
17:18 Experimentonomen my 2x30VAC ~200VA test psu transformer have now passed away
17:18 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: did it release the magic smoke?
17:18 tonsofpcs my 'new' scope did....
17:18 Experimentonomen kindof, it started smoking a bit and then stopped giving voltage out
17:19 Yrouel someone need to build a magic smoke recovering device...
17:19 Experimentonomen and im deciding to pull the plug on this se ips amplifier project, have had too many stability issues that i've been unable to cure
17:22 Electricguy_ for some reason i lol at this.. XD http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385632_411884938832523_367116489976035_1342366_1024352895_n.jpg
17:23 tonsofpcs because it's wrong on so many levels?
17:24 Electricguy_ possibly
17:24 tonsofpcs (for those of you who don't understand: That's Einstein and the laws of motion were not Teslas...)
17:25 tonsofpcs also, you can pump power into the ground until it comes out the other side :D
17:29 Yrouel tonsofpcs ironically you can do something like that with neutrinos
17:29 Yrouel it's far from what tesla wanted but still...
17:30 tonsofpcs Yrouel: well, long-wave and medium-wave broadcast do whatt he wanted... kinda...
17:30 Yrouel don't they bounce in the atmosphere to reach other side of the planet?
17:31 tonsofpcs not really. *
17:31 tonsofpcs *there's all sorts of complex detail here and it depends on if it's daytime, nighttime, or dawn/dusk
17:33 tonsofpcs but basically an AM MW/LW transmitting system is *generally* built such that the above ground ssystem has a 'mirror' in the ground -- note tthat this mirror doesn't physically exist as such, but the ground-wave propogation model shows that the signal travels as if such does.
17:34 tonsofpcs and then a tuned reception system requires no external power source, it just regenerates the current it receives 'in the air'
17:35 tonsofpcs MW AM antenna design is both elegantly simple and crazy complex :)
17:37 Yrouel tonsofpcs uhm so you can comunicate to the other side of the world with this system and the signal travels using the ground instead of air?
17:38 tonsofpcs I said kinda, didn't I :)
17:38 tonsofpcs http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/ground_wave/ground_wave.php
17:38 BotSteve Title: Ground Wave Propagation :: Radio-Electronics.Com
17:39 tonsofpcs that's a relatively high level explanation
17:39 tonsofpcs reading into detail on this tends to make my head hurt :)
17:39 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation
17:39 BotSteve Title: Radio propagation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:39 Yrouel thanks for the links
17:39 SparkyProjects see the modes below he table
17:40 tonsofpcs it does travel 'through the air', but it is pulled in by the earth, but it also travels through the earth and ... it's kinda like a crazy balanced system, I guess
17:42 tonsofpcs that's why they tend to build broadcast AM sites in swamps -- higher ground conductivity gets more 'umph'
17:43 Yrouel hope it kills mosquitos too in the process
17:43 Yrouel :D
17:44 Yrouel anyway thanks for the infos it's dinner time here brb
17:45 SparkyProjects Think of a vertical antenna, it usually has some sort of groundplane, that groundplane is like a mirror, elecrically you would see a reflection of that antenna below the groundplane.
17:45 SparkyProjects Lower frequencies tend to follow the curvature of the earth more than high frequencies
17:45 SparkyProjects That's why if i used shortwave in the UK, i may be able to contact someone in America, but if i used UHF, i's be  lucky to talk to someone in the next town
17:45 SparkyProjects Higher frequencies are more line of sight, obstructions affect it more as it can bounce around
17:46 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: this started as a comparison of Tesla's 'pushing power through the earth', btw :)
17:46 SparkyProjects I know ;)
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17:47 killakee hihi my internet hates the TC
17:47 killakee XD
17:47 tonsofpcs tc?
17:47 Electricguy tesla coil
17:47 Electricguy well.. it's a big ass EMF generator..
17:48 Sgt_Lemming running wireless killakee?
17:48 tonsofpcs faraday cage?
17:49 killakee Sgt_Lemming no... hehe
17:50 tonsofpcs I wonder if you could modulate tesla coils to use them as a MW or LW broadcast....
17:50 SparkyProjects killakee: see if you can find a mains filter, sometines you can find them in old equipment, either built into an IEC socket(i use one, it's metal cased), or a set of inductors and capacitors on a pcb
17:50 SparkyProjects Also, mains earth for the nst, and separate RF earth for the secondary
17:50 killakee :)
17:51 killakee will do :)
17:51 tonsofpcs also, if you have a ferrite toroid...
17:51 tonsofpcs (or two or twelve)
17:52 SparkyProjects http://www.acoustica.org.uk/other/filter.html
17:52 BotSteve Title: acoustica.org.uk: shocking!
17:52 SparkyProjects ^ mains filter circuit
17:54 SparkyProjects My coils don't affect the computer in my studio, except for the bipolar (no RF earth) turned the computer on (as can be seen in the vid)
17:54 tonsofpcs well, you really only need to provide an impedance bump to the high frequencies of the TC discharge, so a few wraps through a toroid that doesn't fully saturate should do it...
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17:55 killakee :)
17:55 tonsofpcs I don't understand that guy's rant about 50Hz, SparkyProjects...
17:56 SparkyProjects what guy ?
17:56 SparkyProjects and what was he saying ?
17:56 tonsofpcs the link you provided
17:58 tonsofpcs he was talking about a power line filter and then just diverged
17:58 tonsofpcs "Before anyone says 'it's only 50Hz, so impedance doesn't matter' take a look at what is really demanded by (and reflected from) a linear PSU under heavy load. For amplifiers, which draw large charging peaks (implying high-frequency, high current content) under load, there is a fairly obvious mechanism..."
17:58 SparkyProjects he's from the UK, if he had been from the US he would have said 60Hz
17:59 tonsofpcs right, I get what 50Hz is, I don't get why he stopped talking about the filter...
18:00 SparkyProjects Some people may think 50 (or 60) Hz is too low to worry about impedance, so it loooks like he was just clarifying
18:00 SparkyProjects The filter has impedance
18:01 tonsofpcs of course it does.  And the *transmission line*  that delivers the mains to your stuff is, well, a transmission line.
18:04 SparkyProjects Mains filters work both ways.
18:04 SparkyProjects When you get sudden load changes, that can send those frequencies back down the mains
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18:38 Experimentonomen *IITCAAdadadadada*
18:42 Yrouel re
18:42 Yrouel hi killakee
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18:49 detrix does anyone here, know if there is a ham radio whip antenna at the GG Lab?
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18:50 Yrouel SparkyProjects I kinda of understood now
18:50 Yrouel the thing with ground propagation
18:51 SparkyProjects Cool :)
18:51 eadthem Cprossu chris used RAID boxes to get cheep hard drives
18:51 eadthem everything im looking at cost more in the box than just buying indivdual drives
18:52 eadthem witch ones was he getting
18:52 IsopropylAlcohol .seen Cprossu
18:52 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I last saw Cprossu 5.00 hours ago at 2012-05-13 13:52:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:52:54 UTC
18:53 IsopropylAlcohol .seen Isopropyl|Laptop
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18:53 Yrouel have the hd prices fallen again after the thailand disaster?
18:53 IsopropylAlcohol .seen IsopropylAlcohol
18:53 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I last saw IsopropylAlcohol 0.00 hours ago at 2012-05-13 18:53:17 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:53:28 UTC
18:53 eadthem .seen eadthem
18:53 BotSteve eadthem: I last saw eadthem 0.00 hours ago at 2012-05-13 18:53:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:53:30 UTC
18:53 Sgt_Lemming .seen BotSteve
18:53 BotSteve I'm right here, actually.
18:53 Yrouel lol
18:54 wannabe1987 ...
18:54 wannabe1987 botspam!
18:54 BitViper i'll just leave this here for entertainment ... http://www.amigamccc.org/journal/1111misc/image001.jpg
18:54 wannabe1987 .seen guardianzozo
18:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Guardianzozo 14.85 hours ago at 2012-05-13 04:03:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:54:22 UTC
18:54 IsopropylAlcohol !mapstob
18:54 Yrouel BitViper wow
18:55 IsopropylAlcohol curious now
18:55 IsopropylAlcohol .seen _ato_
18:55 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I last saw nick:_ato_ 4825.93 hours ago at 2011-10-25 16:59:34 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:55:09 UTC
18:55 IsopropylAlcohol wow good system uptime
18:55 BitViper Yrouel : ive seem some good ones, both photos and real life, but nothing like that
18:55 Yrouel I imagined in a flash a meme with troll face wich arrives and disconnect a cable and then is seen with a random cable in his hand and the sysadmin with a big FUUUU face
18:56 BitViper how'd you like the have your boss give you the job of cleaning up the server room on your first day :)
18:56 Yrouel define cleaning up
18:56 Yrouel I'd probably enjoy to connect in an ordered way those cables
18:56 BitViper organizing ? ie organize the wires
18:57 IsopropylAlcohol everything + wire organization
18:57 Yrouel but I'd hate to figure out which does what
18:57 BitViper Yrouel : yeah, but ya gotta do it w/o breaking the system :)
18:57 Yrouel oh that's a bummer
18:57 Yrouel :P
18:57 IsopropylAlcohol not with labels its not a bummer
18:57 BitViper yeah, week 1, label everything
18:58 IsopropylAlcohol week 2 trace everything
18:58 IsopropylAlcohol week 3 rewire
18:58 BitViper week 2, verify the labels
18:58 Yrouel anyway in those situations I'd be curious to see the exact moment when the situation spiraled out of control
18:58 BitViper Yrouel : that would be the 2nd air-wire
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18:59 SparkyProjects I'd take the challenge, i used to work in telephone exchanges, though not sure if certain cables would need disconnecting/replacing for correct length (if the hub racks at the place i used to work are anything to go by)
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18:59 Yrouel no I meant the moment when someone said "f*ck I don't care anymore to put order in this mess as long as it works"
19:00 BitViper id want to rip everything out like GH5 and start over
19:01 Yrouel oh btw I wrote a comment on youtube about those old national geographic magazines
19:01 Yrouel put those on ebay for the truck
19:01 BitViper good call
19:01 Sgt_Lemming .weather ybbn
19:01 BotSteve Clear ☼, 10℃, 1017mb, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - YBBN 18:30Z
19:01 Yrouel some collector must exist
19:03 Yrouel or as another commenter pointed out
19:03 Yrouel in the tgg store
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19:10 Electricguy lulz http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179965_405225576175656_229187803779435_1259331_959077650_n.jpg
19:12 Experimentonomen *sneeze* :/
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19:26 * Damianz hands Experimentonomen a tissue
19:32 Electricguy did some more work on the code/firmware for my digital Arduino thermometer/hygrometer :)
19:32 Electricguy uploading a vid of it.
19:35 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BPI-L5ivlw
19:35 BotSteve Title: DHT11 Arduino thermometer/hygrometer update - YouTube
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19:50 wannabe-afk dinner is in 10 minutes....been busy last hour making food :P
19:56 Electricguy_ I suppose that a global invitation to free dinner
19:57 Damianz Cool, everyone to wannabe-afk's house
19:58 Experimentonomen i had six fish sticks for dinner
19:59 Damianz I have some chicken satay sticks with chili sauce then a Mongollian chicken stir fry.
19:59 Damianz s/have/had/
20:04 Experimentonomen nom
20:06 eadthem i had homemade french frys
20:06 Damianz Are you french?
20:07 Experimentonomen hes a frenchie ;p
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20:14 Yrouel rice with cheese here
20:22 Experimentonomen aight i feel kin da manky so im gonna goto bed, nite peepz
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20:49 Electricguy bedtime. night all
20:49 Phiraday G'night!
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20:55 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
20:55 BotSteve At 15:48Z, Seroster asked me to tell batsteve Yo... I herd u had summin wit sume ham sanwich or summin? =P
20:55 BotSteve 1.48367953
20:56 Bat-Mobile Seroster: haha yeah, later, it's a good story though
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21:06 einball OMG
21:06 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT0OhCDBsGs
21:06 BotSteve Title: クラタス_動作テスト 【V-Sido】 - YouTube
21:10 Seroster Lol
21:10 Thermoelectric Oh yay, another death inducing war machine.
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21:10 Phiraday I am thinking construction. =3
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21:16 Hydroelectric Morning all.
21:18 Seroster Good evening, Hydroelectric
21:19 detrix I mentioned this earlier, and want to see if anyone who did not see it, is interested....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTAqGKt64WM
21:19 BotSteve Title: Make a Joule Thief - YouTube
21:21 Sgt_Lemming detrix, you realize it's just a very simple self regulating boost psu?
21:22 einball holy .. shit!
21:22 detrix Sgt_Lemming, yep, but its interesting, I have built a 3 LED (bright white) flash light.
21:22 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=rT0OhCDBsGs
21:22 BotSteve Title: クラタス_動作テスト 【V-Sido】 - YouTube
21:23 Sgt_Lemming einball, you already linked that less than 20 minutes ago...
21:23 detrix Sgt_Lemming, people have even powered CFL off of a 1.5v battery.
21:23 Sgt_Lemming why did you feel the need to link it again?
21:23 einball uhm, Sgt_Lemming its late in here.
21:24 Sgt_Lemming detrix, if the cfl is only a few watts that's surprisingly easy to do
21:24 wannabe-afk Damianz: foods gone....
21:24 einball Time to go to bed - n8
21:25 Sgt_Lemming you're gonna run into one of two walls pretty fast though, the battery is gonna go flat damned fast, or the cells own internal resistance is gonna current limit it
21:25 detrix Sgt_Lemming, I don't remember the wattage, but I believe it was rather low.  I did not know it was easy to power a CFL (low wattage) via a 1.5v battery.
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21:26 Sgt_Lemming CFL's can run on pulsed DC, pulsing DC can be done pretty easily
21:27 Sgt_Lemming also DC - DC voltage conversion is pretty easy these days
21:27 detrix I took apart a CFL to attempt this, but have not done it yet.
21:27 Sgt_Lemming especially relatively low voltage/current DC
21:28 Sgt_Lemming the hard one with DC is going from a high voltage to a low voltage
21:31 detrix Here is a joule thief arcing.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT2JjVjmixI
21:31 BotSteve Title: How to make a joule thief super high voltage fly back transformer driver - YouTube
21:32 wannabe-afk ok....time to go the lab from moms house....laden with pizza and chicken :D
21:33 * Sgt_Lemming sneaks into wannabe-afk's car and steals the pizza and chicken
21:33 wannabe-afk o.  grandpa goes "guess what i did with my hard drive?"  "what?"  "took it out to the driveway and smashed it with a sledge hammer"
21:33 Sgt_Lemming lol
21:33 Sgt_Lemming why?
21:33 wannabe-afk i was like WHY?!
21:34 wannabe-afk because he didn't want people seeing things on there....
21:34 wannabe-afk i told him we can wipe it
21:34 wannabe-afk he said he didn't want to pay for that....told him it was free....
21:34 wannabe-afk i should see if he still has the tower, bring it to the lab....
21:34 Sgt_Lemming lol
21:34 BitViper more fun to thermite it
21:34 wannabe-afk too late now, but still.  poor hard drive
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21:35 wannabe-afk :(  alright, off to the lab
21:35 wannabe-afk bye Leepod!
21:35 Yrouel wannabe-afk at least your grandpa cares about data security
21:35 Leepod Bye :/
21:35 BitViper wannabe-afk if someone wants drives to thermite, there's probably still a bag of them under thumper
21:35 wannabe-afk yes, Yrouel, but still...lab could use another hard drive for the stacks ! :P
21:36 exor674 noooo, fill it with concrete
21:36 exor674 they can have the dat a on the drive if they can get it out intact
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21:41 Sgt_Lemming thumpering a hard drive platter could be interesting
21:41 Sgt_Lemming I still wanna see a full can done on thumper though :-P
21:42 Hydroelectric .seen Thermoelectric
21:43 BotSteve Hydroelectric: I last saw Thermoelectric 0.54 hours ago at 2012-05-13 21:10:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:42:58 UTC
21:43 Thermoelectric Pfft, stop with your beeping. :P
21:43 Leepod BEEP
21:43 Hydroelectric Hehe, are we in week 1 of the timetable?
21:43 Thermoelectric Sgt_Lemming, You gonna clean up the mess of the full can? :P
21:43 Thermoelectric Hydroelectric, Yeah
21:43 Hydroelectric Cheers.
21:43 Sgt_Lemming Thermoelectric, if I can get my ass there at some stage
21:43 Sgt_Lemming sure
21:44 Sgt_Lemming I'd probably encase the whole thing in plastic first
21:44 Thermoelectric Awesome, I'll be waiting for the video. :P
21:44 Thermoelectric Can always make a thumper at HSBNE? Doesn't cost *that* much...
21:45 Sgt_Lemming hah, I WISH
21:45 detrix bah weep grana weep nini bong
21:50 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_8wRpgvhyg <--- that is REALLY f'ing clever
21:50 BotSteve Title: How to Make an Airsoft Machine Gun from a Soda Bottle - YouTube
21:50 Sgt_Lemming I have all the parts except the brake line for that :-D
21:50 Leepod I'm sure you can use something else besides brake line
21:51 Sgt_Lemming I'm sure I can
21:51 Sgt_Lemming brake line would work really nicely though with that flared end and being strong enough to withstand the pressure differential
21:52 Yrouel Sgt_Lemming yeah but the air reservoir is pretty dumb
21:52 Yrouel I'd use a recovered fire extinguisher
21:52 Yrouel which you can fill at a greater pressure than the plastic thing he proposes
21:52 Sgt_Lemming it's not an air reservoir at all Yrouel
21:53 Yrouel I was talking about the other video he made
21:53 Sgt_Lemming you're not paying anywhere enough attention to it, that or completely misunderstanding how it works
21:53 Yrouel related to the one you linked
21:53 Yrouel I thought you already seen it
21:53 Sgt_Lemming yes, I get that
21:53 Sgt_Lemming I have seen it, it is not a pressure reservoir
21:54 Yrouel and what it is then?
21:54 Sgt_Lemming if anything, a magazine
21:54 Yrouel this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_UEjEBQwAU
21:55 BotSteve Title: How to Make a $4 BB Gun & Airsoft Flamethrower - YouTube
21:55 Yrouel I was talking about that
21:56 Sgt_Lemming it helps to link the video before you start arguing a point about it
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21:57 Sasha_ I found a way to get a ton of people to TGG...
21:57 Sgt_Lemming and he's made 166 videos so "the other video he made" is not a really clear description
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21:57 Sasha_ http://vimeo.com/40000072
21:57 BotSteve Title: Caine's Arcade on Vimeo
21:57 Yrouel sorry I though you already seen it
21:58 Yrouel since is sort of a sequel
21:58 Sgt_Lemming Yrouel, sorry but you're a fucking idiot. Be more clear about what you are talking about in future ffs
21:59 Hydroelectric Ah well, time for school. Bye all.
21:59 Sgt_Lemming cya hydro
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22:00 Sgt_Lemming oh, and as for using something else as a reservoir. The hose and valve would need to be rated at the higher pressure
22:00 Sgt_Lemming which would cost a lot more, and then make the bottle the point of failure
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23:08 tonsofpcs mmmm ritter sport
23:10 Sgt_Lemming ...?
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23:17 injektion Someone moved my iPad now I don't know where it is
23:17 Sgt_Lemming awww, poor baby
23:19 JA12 RIPad
23:27 injektion My brother probably knows where it is
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