Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-05-14

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00:15 Scozza joined #thegeekgroup
00:23 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve!
00:23 wannabe1987 hi JA12
00:24 BatSteve howdy
00:24 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:24 BotSteve At 13 May 21:10Z, Seroster asked me to tell batsteve Yo... I herd u had summin wit sume ham sanwich or summin? =P
00:24 BotSteve At 13 May 21:10Z, Seroster asked me to tell batsteve Yo... I herd u had summin wit sume ham sanwich or summin? =P IMMA KEEP SPAMMIN U TIL YA TELL ME! xD
00:24 BotSteve At 13 May 21:11Z, Seroster asked me to tell batsteve And... Our plans about your relative still stand, eh? =D
00:24 BatSteve :D
00:24 wannabe1987 lol
00:26 * Damianz bats BotSteve with a crowbar then wonders back to playing with sharp things
00:26 wannabe1987 wander*  not wonder
00:27 JA12 hi wannabe1987
00:28 * Damianz prefers to think he was desiring to go back to playing with shark things over the action of walking
00:28 wannabe1987 how are you doing, friend?
00:28 JA12 I'm ok, thanks
00:28 JA12 you?
00:28 wannabe1987 doing well.  lots of changes...life is sucking greatly
00:29 JA12 life does suck
00:30 JA12 it almost feels like it's its job
00:30 Damianz Life should diaf
00:38 BatSteve http://imgur.com/ams0k
00:38 BotSteve Title: android ordroid notdroid nandroid - Imgur
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00:42 wannabe1987 hi sashi
00:44 BatSteve Who here has steam who knows how to open your gifts menu?
00:44 BatSteve like, when someone sends you a gift?
00:44 wannabe1987 i hae steam, but i never use it :P
00:49 BatSteve never mind
00:49 BatSteve found it
00:49 BatSteve also free books on amazon
00:49 BatSteve http://www.amazon.com/Heist-Awesome-Zombie-Conspiracy-ebook/dp/B005END4II/ref=sr_1_67?ie=UTF8&qid=1336956419&sr=8-67
00:49 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: The Heist (Super Awesome Zombie Conspiracy Vol. 1) eBook: Devin Hobbes: Kindle Store
00:56 eadthem i cant beleve pepole waste money on jet dry
00:57 eadthem i ran out of vinigar  witch is what i use for rinse aid,  just ran a load now that i have a new bottle.  night and day diffrence
00:57 tonsofpcs yay vinegar (I think that was wannabe1987's suggestion, actually)
00:58 tonsofpcs I now keep one of those giant plastic things of vinegar in front of the dish washer
00:58 eadthem most of the dishes came out dry (not effective on plastic)  where as without  all the dishes came out wet
00:58 wannabe1987 mhm
00:58 tonsofpcs I get white crap on my dishes without, even with jet-dry
00:59 wannabe1987 my mom uses jet dry, when i have  a dishwasher, i use vinegar.  i don't have a dishwasher....
00:59 tonsofpcs I generally keep jet-dry in it and add vinegar per load
00:59 tonsofpcs the jet dry does help the drying, the vinegar seems to help the cleaning
01:00 eadthem i add like 1/2 to 1/4 cup on the last rinse cycle normaly
01:00 tonsofpcs I just pour some in at the start...
01:01 tonsofpcs I also get the water running hot and set the dishwasher to heat-water-mode
01:02 eadthem ya myns not that fancy
01:03 eadthem it has 1 cycle that it heats the water on   and thats the same one it drops the 2nd detergint cup at
01:03 tonsofpcs not what fancy?
01:04 eadthem it has 1 push pull dial
01:04 eadthem i can start it at heavy normal and rinse
01:04 tonsofpcs push-pull dial? I have a switch for 'heat water' and a timer knob
01:06 eadthem push pull  like a whril pool cloths washer
01:06 tonsofpcs yea, mine's not that fancy
01:06 tonsofpcs it starts if it's locked and the knob is in any place but 'off' and if you turn the knob, it makes the little door inside open when it passes that point...
01:07 eadthem yep
01:07 eadthem cept my 2nd cup wont open unless the door is closed and its running
01:07 tonsofpcs oo, fancy
01:17 wannabe1987 are you my mummy?
01:18 tonsofpcs are you watching doctor who?
01:18 wannabe1987 catching aaron up
01:19 * Damianz notes his fingers don't like bending
01:20 wannabe1987 not backwards....
01:20 Damianz Or forwards really :P
01:32 * BatSteve just made a touchscreen stylus with a pen and a snickers wrapper
01:32 Damianz lol
01:32 Damianz I hope you ate the snikkers
01:33 BatSteve duh, snickers are delicious
01:33 Damianz Mars > snickers
01:34 BatSteve FOOL.  Offend not the Snickery Gods!
01:36 wannabe1987 gonna be in the 70s and 80s this week.  i like it!
01:37 Damianz Having 10 bithdays in one week?
01:37 wannabe1987 lol no
01:37 wannabe1987 temps
01:37 wannabe1987 *F :P
01:43 JA12 snickers tastes great, I've tried them twice. after that I get a fever and puke until every last piece of those nuts are out of my system
01:46 Damianz Same thing with yogurt
01:50 tonsofpcs isnt mars just a dark chocolate milkyway?
01:50 tonsofpcs .w mars bar
01:50 BotSteve "Mars (also Mars bar) is a chocolate bar manufactured by Mars, Incorporated." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_bar
01:51 Damianz Nag, milkyway has milyspongy awesomness
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02:39 egrsteve hello, anyone left in here?
02:39 SparkyProjects Only the ghosts :P
02:39 wannabe1987 <ghostie noises>
02:40 wannabe1987 hi steve :)
02:41 egrsteve hello
02:42 SparkyProjects Steve, you'll have to show Gibroni, Batman, and maybe a few others how to coil up cable properly, saw Gibroni struggling to untangle a cable, and Batman with the induction heater
02:44 egrsteve ya, that happens
02:44 egrsteve even done right you can make a mess of it
02:45 egrsteve ie pass an end through thr middle
02:45 egrsteve instant knots every 2-3ft
02:45 wannabe1987 sounds like somehting i'd be good at doing.....
02:46 egrsteve I can show you how to do it right sometime if you want
02:46 wannabe1987 what, in slow motion?
02:47 egrsteve i could
02:47 egrsteve but then I would have to talk really slow too
02:47 wannabe1987 lol
02:47 wannabe1987 something the dr can't do....but i bet you could :P
02:47 egrsteve ttttaaalllllkkkk rrrreeeeeaaaalllllyyyy ssssslllllloooowwww????
02:47 wannabe1987 yes
02:48 * SparkyProjects has untangled 100 yards of 2 core telephone wire that was not on a reel, and that someone else had made worse Once you understand a tangle is a series of loops, it's easy
02:48 wannabe1987 i even read it really slow....
02:48 egrsteve yes, pass the end back rhough
02:55 SparkyProjects If you know the end is the problem, yes, but the middle of the tangle you have to pass loops through, otherwise you'll be there for hours passing metres of the end through and back
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03:12 BatSteve Today I realized that "Rambo" and "Predator" are the same movie.  One just has an alien in it.
03:14 wannabe1987 .seen newguy
03:14 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw newguy 338.30 hours ago at 2012-04-30 00:56:47 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:14:35 UTC
03:14 wannabe1987 .c 338.30hours to days
03:14 BotSteve 14.0958333 days
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03:17 lwq1996 wannabe bot is wrong
03:17 wannabe1987 how so?
03:17 lwq1996 probably screwed up i think
03:17 wannabe1987 no, its probably true....we haven't seen him at the lab in that many days either
03:17 lwq1996 remember when you guys used to do .seen on me and it would say 2464 so on numbers when i was right there?
03:18 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
03:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 0.01 hours ago at 2012-05-14 03:17:57 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:18:17 UTC
03:18 wannabe1987 yeah.....
03:18 lwq1996 its fixed now
03:18 wannabe1987 no shit
03:19 * lwq1996 goes away
03:20 wannabe1987 what hun?
03:24 * Damianz sits and purrs
03:25 wannabe1987 egrsteve: i don't think moose would look good in hair like yours.....
03:25 wannabe1987 :P
03:26 * egrsteve just got a hair cut, it was too long anyway
03:26 Damianz I feel like blue hair but that's effort
03:27 wannabe1987 you mean a buzz?
03:27 egrsteve basicly
03:27 * lwq1996 pets Damianz
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03:29 * Damianz bites lwq1996
03:29 lwq1996 OUCH, damn cat!!!! dont bite me
03:29 * lwq1996 pulls his rifle out and leads Damianz to the back yard
03:30 wannabe1987 cats bite....derp :P
03:30 * wannabe1987 saves Damianz, lets him live in her yard, feeding him tuna
03:30 Damianz Mmm tuna
03:31 lwq1996 my cats dont bite. they know not too
03:31 * Damianz goes back to drawing random messages while reading random articles.
03:31 lwq1996 lol
03:32 Damianz Dogs > cats.
03:32 lwq1996 agreed
03:32 lwq1996 my dogs loyal to me :)
03:32 Damianz Shame they are expensive and time consuming
03:33 lwq1996 i got my dog for nothing and hes not time consuming
03:34 wannabe1987 agreed
03:34 wannabe1987 bull shit.
03:34 wannabe1987 walking, petting, running, etc
03:34 lwq1996 i let my dog out in the yard and hes content
03:35 Damianz Even just buying food, considering I only eat like onces a day it would be expensives.... walking no really a problem but being at work all day and leaving a puppy in is just a wrecked house
03:35 wannabe1987 mhm
03:36 lwq1996 im gone for 6hours and he does nothing
03:36 lwq1996 get small dogs :P
03:37 lwq1996 may sound cruel but swatting them when they are little and did something bad is a good way of teaching them
03:39 Damianz lol
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03:40 Damianz I still think leaving a dog for 6-8 hours is a bad idea, would be fun to have around but then going on holiday etc is just complicated.
03:40 lwq1996 they piss on the carpet, swat them 3times good and rub their nose in it and yelling at them will teach them good.
03:44 Damianz Or I could just have nice carpets.
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03:57 wannabe-afk hey look....internet is back :P
03:57 wannabe-afk Cprossu must be working magic
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03:59 tehdark45 It is my magic fairy dust
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04:01 Damianz Did he break it in the first place?
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04:03 wannabe-afk maybe
04:04 tehdark45 He was making a GUI in visual basic to find the killers
04:04 tehdark45 and that brok the internet
04:04 tehdark45 broke*
04:04 Damianz Ah yes, the ip tracking abilities of GUIs in visual basic.
04:05 tehdark45 Ik right
04:05 tehdark45 so advanced
04:05 tehdark45 You look like a uber h4x0r usings win 95 and VB
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04:17 lwq1996 lol still at the lab i see
04:18 tehdark45 oh noes lwq1996
04:21 wannabe1987 o yes.
04:22 wannabe1987 this is the last ep of dr who before we go home....tis almost done
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04:27 lwq1996 5people i knew pretty good died with a year and a half
04:28 Damianz with a year and a half?
04:28 lwq1996 within
04:28 lwq1996 sorry auto correct
04:32 lwq1996 bills birthday is tomorrow!!!!! (may 15)
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04:44 lwq1996 well that kinda surprises me. http://wearecentralpa.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=370662
04:44 BotSteve Title: Man Listed as School Music Director Arrested on Rape Charges
04:44 lwq1996 his brother is a music director at my school
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04:50 wannabe1987 home!
04:50 lwq1996 wannabe! look at this! http://wearecentralpa.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=370662
04:50 BotSteve Title: Man Listed as School Music Director Arrested on Rape Charges
04:50 lwq1996 i knew this guy!!!
04:50 lwq1996 im in his brothers chorus
04:50 wannabe1987 ...
04:52 lwq1996 im pulling myself out of his chorus imediatly
04:53 wannabe1987 dont blame you
04:56 lwq1996 the thing that worries me is that there are going to be rumors about his brother because they are both directors and both mr.putorek
04:59 tehdark45 Brother brains are not the same -_-
04:59 tehdark45 you should know this lee
05:00 lwq1996 still. you know people will be stupid and think that and things will get bad
05:00 Damianz I testify that people are stupid
05:01 wannabe1987 agreed
05:01 tehdark45 non tgg members are stupid ;)
05:01 tehdark45 lol
05:01 lwq1996 i second the motion
05:01 tehdark45 it's notion stupid
05:01 tehdark45 :P
05:01 wannabe1987 no, even some tgg members are stupid
05:01 wannabe1987 sometimes
05:02 lwq1996 druid >.>
05:02 tehdark45 well i guess there is Hy
05:02 tehdark45 lol
05:02 Damianz Everyone is stupid sometimes, non-stupid people realise they are stupid and slap themselves, everyone else needs slapping by a thrid party.
05:02 * tehdark45 slaps Damianz
05:02 tehdark45 :P
05:02 * Damianz finds his bat
05:03 * tehdark45 stole it
05:03 * lwq1996 steals it and gives it back to Damianz
05:03 * Damianz picks up the sa80 that just happends to be on the table and shoots tehdark45 3 times, then claims his bat back
05:04 tehdark45 Damianz misses and hits lwq1996
05:04 Damianz The power of irc, guns appear as needed.
05:04 lwq1996 we have a tgg:guns :P
05:04 lwq1996 run by me
05:04 lwq1996 though im never in it :/
05:04 * Damianz looks at lwq1996 and notes he has no 'guns'
05:04 lwq1996 any heated arguments should be taken there :P
05:05 lwq1996 i have guns
05:05 lwq1996 well i own a gun but my dad has others he lets me use
05:05 Damianz Heated arguments should be table to /dev/null because most likely no one cares.
05:05 tehdark45 lol
05:05 Damianz I only have air rifles until I figure out somewhere to put a gun safe at my new house.
05:06 tehdark45 mv lwq1996 vs tehdark45 vs Damianz /dev/null/
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05:06 tehdark45 woot for cli
05:07 lwq1996 tehdark45:  how many guns you shoot in your life?
05:07 tehdark45 none
05:07 tehdark45 lol
05:08 wannabe-afk theres your issue
05:08 tehdark45 there's "{
05:08 tehdark45 :P*
05:08 Damianz I still think the uk gov should change the law to allow people to carry :(
05:09 tehdark45 Damianz, it's the same in canada (ssssh dont tell druid)
05:09 tehdark45 they have a permit
05:09 tehdark45 but it is really hard to get
05:09 lwq1996 its so hard to get even druid.... oh wait, never mind
05:10 tehdark45 what lwq1996. that didnt make sense
05:10 lwq1996 i was about to say that druid was sane but stopped myself
05:11 tehdark45 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry#In_Canada
05:11 BotSteve Title: Concealed carry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
05:11 Damianz You can't even get a permit to carry *any* concealed weapon - including any locking or over 3 1/2" knive!
05:11 Damianz s/knive/knife/
05:12 Damianz Even if it's for work =/ Meh, I can walk around with an un-loaded shotgun with no issues but carrying any form of handgun = no.
05:16 tehdark45 move?
05:16 tehdark45 :P
05:16 Hackbat what was the first evil dead movie?
05:17 Hackbat was it evil dead or army of darkness?
05:17 Hackbat nvm
05:17 Hackbat forgot google existed
05:18 Damianz Love to, have you seen how hard it is to get a green card!? :P
05:18 tehdark45 come to canada
05:18 tehdark45 it is easier
05:18 tehdark45 :P
05:26 Cprossu .seen yNos
05:26 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw yNos 55.17 hours ago at 2012-05-11 22:16:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:26:45 UTC
05:27 Hackbat .seen anything
05:27 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen anything around.
05:27 Hackbat I'm so clever :B
05:29 tehdark45 .seen tehdark45
05:29 BotSteve tehdark45: I last saw tehdark45 0.00 hours ago at 2012-05-14 05:29:03 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:29:03 UTC
05:29 Hackbat .seen nothing
05:29 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen nothing around.
05:29 tehdark45 .seen .
05:29 BotSteve KeyError (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/storebackends/jsonfile.py", line 45, in __getitem__)
05:29 Hackbat WOOOOOOOOOOO
05:29 Hackbat You broke him
05:30 Hackbat you win a prize
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05:30 tehdark45 its a lisa
05:30 tehdark45 oh noes
05:30 lwq1996 and thats my que to go to bed
05:30 Hackbat BatSteve, tehdark45 broke BotSteve !
05:30 wannabe1987 night hun
05:30 Hackbat .seen ,
05:30 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen , around.
05:30 Hackbat .seen :
05:30 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen : around.
05:30 Hackbat .seen (
05:30 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen ( around.
05:31 Hackbat .seen .
05:31 BotSteve KeyError (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/storebackends/jsonfile.py", line 45, in __getitem__)
05:31 Hackbat sorry for the flood X|
05:31 ThunderJuggs yes it is
05:32 tehdark45 gj Hackbat you haced him to death
05:32 tehdark45 hacked*
05:32 Hackbat young Bruce campbell is interesting looking
05:32 Hackbat oh please
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05:33 Hackbat if talking to him is hacking then I hack your mom everyday >:C
05:33 BatSteve try it now
05:33 Hackbat .seen .
05:33 BotSteve KeyError (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/storebackends/jsonfile.py", line 45, in __getitem__)
05:33 BatSteve drat
05:33 tehdark45 whats my moms name hmm?
05:33 tehdark45 :P
05:33 Hackbat Matilda
05:33 tehdark45 nope
05:33 tehdark45 lol
05:34 Hackbat ooooo :O
05:34 Hackbat there was a The Hills have eyes poster in evil dead.
05:35 Hackbat Maybe you should make it ignore .
05:35 Hackbat or anything shorter than two characters
05:36 * Damianz throws a cookie to ThunderJuggs and thinks about going to work
05:37 Hackbat HA
05:37 ThunderJuggs never work. it's not fun
05:37 Hackbat I'm loving evil dead
05:37 Damianz Work is fun sometimes
05:37 Damianz It's monday though, which generally means all the idiots come out.
05:37 tehdark45 ThunderJuggs, are you working?
05:38 Hackbat memorial day too
05:38 ThunderJuggs if by working you mean at working eating mac and cheese watching csi ny yes
05:38 tehdark45 so you are at work "working"
05:38 ThunderJuggs sure
05:38 BatSteve ok, try it now.
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05:39 BatSteve should be fixed.
05:39 Thermoelectric .tfwc Cairns
05:39 BotSteve Unknown location
05:39 Hackbat .seen .
05:40 Hackbat .seen *
05:40 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen * around.
05:40 Hackbat .seen
05:40 BotSteve No user provided!
05:40 Hackbat .tfw .
05:40 BotSteve Unknown location
05:40 Hackbat good job
05:41 tehdark45 .tfw earth
05:41 BotSteve Unknown location
05:41 Hackbat D:
05:41 Hackbat oh noes
05:41 BatSteve oh
05:41 BatSteve I can fix that too.
05:42 Hackbat .seen anyone
05:42 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen anyone around.
05:42 Hackbat .seen anyone should work like whois
05:42 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen anyone around.
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05:45 Katemonster oi.
05:45 BatSteve Thermoelectric: try it now
05:46 Thermoelectric .tfwc Cairns
05:46 BotSteve Thermoelectric: THE TFWC MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
05:46 BatSteve :]
05:46 Thermoelectric .tfw Cairns
05:46 BotSteve Thermoelectric: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
05:46 Thermoelectric Damn.
05:46 BatSteve See?  It's more informative now.
05:46 Hackbat .seen anyone
05:46 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen anyone around.
05:46 Thermoelectric Only barely. :P
05:46 tehdark45 .tfw 55555
05:46 BotSteve tehdark45: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
05:47 Hackbat .tfw your_moms's_house
05:47 BotSteve Hackbat: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
05:48 Hackbat .seen botsteve
05:48 BotSteve I'm right here, actually.
05:49 wannabe1987 .seen .
05:49 Hackbat .seen ..
05:49 Hackbat .seen ..........
05:49 wannabe-zz i'm going to bed....night spammers :)
05:49 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen .......... around.
05:49 Hackbat hehe
05:49 Hackbat GOODNIGHT FEMALE HUMAN.
05:50 wannabe-zz good night, male human
05:50 wannabe-zz o, the ood are odd, fyi
05:50 ThunderJuggs night kelly
05:50 Hackbat wow...
05:50 Hackbat just wow
05:51 Hackbat 2006 was 6 years ago
05:51 Hackbat I'm starting to feel old
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06:23 Cprossu .ftw 85021
06:23 Cprossu .tfw 85021
06:23 BotSteve Cprossu: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
06:23 Cprossu .weather 85021
06:23 BotSteve Cloudy, 87.8℉ (31℃), 29.82in (1006mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KPHX 05:51Z
06:23 Cprossu it's so nice there right now =(
06:24 Cprossu .weather grand rapids, mi
06:24 Thermoelectric .t est
06:24 BotSteve Mon, 14 May 2012 01:24:11 EST
06:24 BotSteve Clear ☼, 50.0℉ (10℃), 30.11in (1016mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KGRR 05:53Z
06:24 Thermoelectric Guess that means Electronics Goldmine wouldn't have gotten to my email yet...
06:24 Cprossu order something neat from them?
06:25 Thermoelectric I only really intended to get MOSFET's, but I ended up getting two super surprise boxes to help bring me closer to the $50 minimum for international orders.
06:26 Cprossu ooooh /me is looking at cheap electronics now
06:26 Cprossu cool site!
06:26 Thermoelectric That it is, and atleast you only have a $10 minimum. >_<
06:28 Cprossu http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G18735
06:28 BotSteve Title: EVM-3800 (GV5C-3800) Voltage Regulator-The Electronic Goldmine
06:28 Cprossu weee!
06:29 Thermoelectric Hehe.
06:29 * Cprossu wonders if he should pick up one for tracy
06:30 Cprossu wow. what the hell would I use a 8v regulator for (tries to think)
06:31 Thermoelectric A device that has a rather weird voltage requirement?
06:32 * Cprossu more thinks of making something around it that just happens to work properly
06:38 Cprossu http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G15287
06:38 BotSteve Title: Semiconductor Treasure Bag of 50-The Electronic Goldmine
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06:38 Cprossu that looks fun
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06:39 Thermoelectric Definitely. They have quite a few assortments.
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06:47 Cprossu well I am outa here folks later
06:49 Thermoelectric Later Cpro
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07:10 MadManMarkAu1 Hmm, this Semiconductor Treasure Bag looks interesting. Someone confinve me to buy one or two. :P
07:10 MadManMarkAu1 *convince
07:12 MadManMarkAu1 Oh wait, $50 minimum
07:12 MadManMarkAu1 Nevermind~
07:12 Experimentonomen dont buy those treasure bags, their intended for noobs that dont know better
07:13 Experimentonomen they usually contain obsolete useless parts that dont have a datasheet and what not
07:13 Thermoelectric But they stock you up on parts, and fill up the other heap of your $50 minimum.
07:13 Thermoelectric Eh, you get your moneys worth out of the few parts that are identifiable.
07:14 Experimentonomen i have never bought them treasure bags
07:14 Experimentonomen i buy the transistors i know i'll be using, usually 2N5550 and 2N5400
07:15 Thermoelectric http://themakersworkbench.com/node/308
07:15 BotSteve Title: Electronic Goldmine Small and Super Surprise Boxes Unwrapped. | themakersworkbench.com
07:18 MadManMarkAu1 Hack potential: http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G17333 ?
07:18 BotSteve Title: Cash Acceptor Machine "AS IS" Model ZT1207-The Electronic Goldmine
07:19 Thermoelectric I'm not certain those would be usable, as they don't have any datasheets/info on them.
07:21 MadManMarkAu1 I was more thinking for parts
07:22 MadManMarkAu1 Anyway, I see a lot of stuff that would be cool to have, but you'd not really want
07:25 Thermoelectric Yeah.
07:27 Thermoelectric I think the assortments would be rather useful in just filling up ones "parts bin"
07:36 MadManMarkAu1 Like, the assorted LED packs look nice
07:42 Thermoelectric If you use LED's a lot, yup.
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09:28 Hydroelectric I think Iǘe fixed the problem with my laptop going to sleep during the day.
09:28 Hydroelectric I´ve*
09:28 Damianz Spank it and tell it to sleep at night?
09:28 Hydroelectric Hehe.
09:29 * Hydroelectric chuckles.
09:30 Experimentonomen lol
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10:15 einball g'day
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10:21 Experimentonomen guten tag herr einball
10:24 einball :)
10:25 einball << Learning
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10:42 Experimentonomen einball, anythin interestin ?
10:54 Thermoelectric .t est
10:54 BotSteve Mon, 14 May 2012 05:54:25 EST
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11:09 einball Experimentonomen: alternating current equations
11:09 einball compex symbols and stuff
11:17 einball *complex
11:21 y007ghg7- .tfw 74965
11:21 BotSteve y007ghg7-: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
11:22 y007ghg7- .w 74965
11:22 BotSteve "Westville is a town in Adair County, Oklahoma, United States." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westville,_Oklahoma
11:22 y007ghg7- .t 74965
11:22 BotSteve Wed, 02 Dec 2020 00:22:28 74965
11:22 y007ghg7- ugh i'm too tired for this shit
11:24 einball :)
11:25 einball .tfwc 75417, GE
11:25 BotSteve einball: THE TFWC MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
11:25 einball hum
11:25 y007ghg7- .weather 74965
11:25 einball same module eh
11:25 BotSteve Scattered, 50.0℉ (10℃), 30.14in (1017mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KFYV 11:13Z
11:25 einball .w 75417, GE
11:25 BotSteve "DNA polymerase theta is an enzyme that in humans is encoded by the POLQ gene." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POLQ
11:25 einball thanks BotSteve
11:25 BotSteve You're welcome, einball
11:26 y007ghg7- lol
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11:41 lwq1996 bus drivers at my school should have their CDL's and bus licenses taken away
11:42 lwq1996 well going into school, bye!!!!
11:47 einball hehehe
11:51 * Experimentonomen repeats "urk" to himself 50-100 times in a row
11:55 y007ghg7- lwq1996, a CDL is a bus license :p
11:55 Monkeh|Lap y007ghg7-: Not by itself
11:55 y007ghg7- its all my school requires to drive a bus
11:56 Monkeh|Lap I'm pretty sure they'll require the appropriate endorsements too.
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12:34 einball hmm
12:34 einball ice cream
12:37 Damianz cream of ice
12:38 Experimentonomen isglass
12:42 einball iscar?
12:42 einball KEags?
12:47 Experimentonomen soptunna
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12:56 einball I fail
12:56 * Damianz nods
12:57 einball I can't derive the formula for the resonance frequency from the ac resistance of a capacitor and an inductor for a LRCR circuit
13:06 Experimentonomen thats what simulators are for ;p
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13:42 BitViper y007ghg7- and Monkeh : in every place i know of you need one of the lesser cdl + a passenger endorsement to drive a bus
14:14 astro73|roam one of my coworkers is so full of random, funny bs
14:14 astro73|roam he just kinda makes stuff up
14:34 * Experimentonomen stuffs a chicken filet into the oven
14:42 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huyK3JeScVo
14:42 BotSteve Title: 1982 Elektor amp - YouTube
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15:10 VictrolaWax Good Morning
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15:13 VictrolaWax Good Day Ya'll
15:13 * BitViper steals Experimentonomen's chicken
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15:18 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon old radio
15:18 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon sparky
15:18 SparkyProjects Hi
15:18 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huyK3JeScVo <-- todays shit :P
15:18 BotSteve Title: 1982 Elektor amp - YouTube
15:20 SparkyProjects Sounds good and looks simple, do you have the circuit ?
15:22 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/AjAWI.png <-- but with a 15k resistor in place of the two 6.8's and the zener
15:22 Experimentonomen and the bootstrap resistors are 3k each
15:23 Experimentonomen and the transistors are BC547, BC557, MJE703 and MJE803
15:30 SparkyProjects So there's no output capacitor ?
15:30 SparkyProjects And i assume 8 ohm load
15:31 Experimentonomen yup
15:33 Sgt_Lemming I have come to the conclusion that my digestive tract appears to hate me
15:33 Sgt_Lemming was fine all day yesterday
15:33 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : is that what the odour in the air is this morning ?
15:33 Sgt_Lemming been going to the bathroom every hour or so for the last few hours >_<
15:33 Sgt_Lemming BitViper, ever kindly, fuck off
15:33 Sgt_Lemming so*
15:34 Sgt_Lemming I feel like shit atm, I've been sick for nearly two weeks
15:34 wannabe1987 :/  i'm sorry lem....
15:34 BitViper 2 weeks ? ouch
15:34 Sgt_Lemming yeah, but it's not constant
15:34 Experimentonomen poor lemming :(
15:34 BitViper not sure if thats any better
15:34 Sgt_Lemming had a couple of days last week where I felt ok, then it all went to shit again thursday night
15:35 Sgt_Lemming gonna try and see my doctor today because I am well and truly over this
15:35 * Experimentonomen does everything he can to make Sgt_Lemming feel better
15:35 BitViper something youre repeatedly eating that hasnt previously been an issue ?
15:35 Sgt_Lemming haven't been eating the same thing
15:35 BitViper yuck, not cool
15:35 wannabe1987 an ingredient, like gluten or something?
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15:36 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, gluten doesn't tend to make you throw up
15:36 wannabe1987 true.
15:36 BitViper im sooooooo glad i rarely get sick, unfortunately when I do i have a hard time kicking it too
15:36 wannabe1987 it does make the tummy uncomfrotable, they tell me.
15:36 Sgt_Lemming I'm kinda concerned this might be something similar to what happened a few years back
15:36 Sgt_Lemming which ended up with me losing 30cm of my small intestine
15:37 wannabe1987 :/
15:37 BitViper O_O
15:37 Experimentonomen :(
15:37 * Damianz removes Sgt_Lemming's insides, problem solves
15:38 Experimentonomen last time i got sick pretty much exactly a year ago, still today i havent recovered
15:38 Experimentonomen i went from active and agile, through a cold to lazy and always tired
15:38 Damianz It sucks when you get sick every few weeks.
15:39 Sgt_Lemming Damianz, last time this happened I was sick for 12 weeks
15:39 Sgt_Lemming constantly sick, not a day of respite
15:39 Sgt_Lemming that SUCKED
15:41 Damianz Dunno, some days I'd rather be sick for 12 weeks
15:42 BitViper 12 WEEKS ?? wholy !
15:43 Sgt_Lemming Damianz, live through it and then say that. I DO NOT want to go through that again
15:44 Experimentonomen i would have killed myself after 2 weeks of that :/
15:45 * Damianz would rather like a new wrist/ankle right now, maybe back/head too just for good measure
15:48 Sgt_Lemming Damianz, I broke both heels a few years back, one of them now has 2 plates and 12 screws in it and I've also broken both wrists multiple times, and my left forearm bad enough that it now has two plates and 14 screws holding it together.
15:48 Sgt_Lemming new limbs would be nice
16:06 VictrolaWax Is a reason why there is no audio live streaming camera feed
16:06 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/9j5p6.png
16:09 VictrolaWax I see
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16:11 Experimentonomen theres the cir, sparky
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16:11 wannabe1987 lem, you need to stop breaking your body....fyi
16:11 wannabe1987 :P
16:20 Experimentonomen i have never broken a bone o_O
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17:18 mashpriborintorg hiya
17:18 mashpriborintorg oh shi... I have a ton of yt vids to watch
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17:28 astro73|roam lol
17:28 astro73|roam you don't have to watch them
17:30 mashpriborintorg I have to watch them
17:31 mashpriborintorg btw this matthiaswandel guy is a genious
17:37 killakee NSTs realy bites XD
17:40 einball ohyep
17:43 killakee nice suprice thoug.. my tc works now... but it looks like .. not good hehe
17:43 killakee upside down lamp XD
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17:49 astro73|roam this isn't strictly lambda calculus, but it's getting close
17:52 einball .
17:54 astro73|roam and it amuses me
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17:58 Yrouel hello
17:59 killakee hi Yrouel :)
18:01 killakee whats up ?
18:01 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, I have a frozen meal in the freezer, tempted to go heat it up and eat it, but not sure if I will keep it down
18:02 killakee Sgt_Lemming: are you still sick ?
18:02 killakee :O
18:02 Sgt_Lemming yeah
18:02 killakee i realy hope you have been to a doctor ?
18:02 Sgt_Lemming planning to go today
18:02 killakee goo
18:02 killakee good
18:03 killakee being sick like that for too long issnt good
18:03 Yrouel hi killakee
18:03 Yrouel I just ordered my first variac :D
18:03 killakee Yrouel: sweeeeet
18:04 killakee i want one too
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18:04 killakee hi wannabe1987
18:06 astro73|roam hi wannabe
18:06 killakee i definitivly need a werry werry good earth stick
18:06 astro73|roam .g earth stick
18:06 BotSteve astro73|roam: http://www.earthsticks.com/
18:07 astro73|roam figures
18:07 astro73|roam .w earth stick
18:07 BotSteve "Bob McDonald OC (born January 25, 1951) is a Canadian author and science journalist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McDonald_(journalist)
18:07 astro73|roam .killakee what's an earth stick?
18:07 killakee hehe
18:07 killakee or ground stick
18:08 SparkyProjects A stick connected to earth
18:08 Yrouel killakee I found an italian ebay seller who offered free shipping for a new one
18:08 killakee a good groundingpoint
18:08 killakee Yrouel nice
18:09 Yrouel a tip: if you search one don't use just the word variac but also "variable transformer" in your language
18:09 Yrouel the one I got I didn't find before because I was searching just variac
18:09 killakee ah cool thanks
18:10 SparkyProjects You can make one out of metal, and attach a wire to the bottom, it doesn't matter if you touch the metal, it's at earth potential, but you can make a handle if you want
18:10 SparkyProjects I have a small aluminium tube with a handle for one, and part of a hollow fishing rod for another
18:11 killakee SparkyProjects: so it does not have to be like copper ?
18:11 killakee a iron rod is just as good ?
18:12 SparkyProjects As long as there's a connection to the tip, my fishing rod has a wire running up the middle to a brass tip
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18:12 SparkyProjects iron is fine
18:13 Yrouel what's an earth stick?
18:13 Yrouel same as ground rods?
18:13 SparkyProjects And for small coils, you don't need it very long.
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18:13 killakee Yrouel: yes
18:14 killakee SparkyProjects: thanks will do
18:14 Yrouel it just reminds me how we manage to still not have a proper ground wire in this house
18:14 SparkyProjects Earth rods are also known as 'Jesu sticks', because if you short a high current with one and in makes a huge bang, you go 'JESUS!!!!'
18:14 Yrouel ahhh
18:15 Yrouel the sticks used to draw arcs for example
18:15 Yrouel ?
18:15 SparkyProjects yep
18:15 astro73|roam yup, those are it
18:15 Electricguy great! i found ONE use for my shitty Compaq laptop!
18:15 Electricguy remote user I/O for the server
18:15 Yrouel I have a really silly one right now
18:16 killakee but im away watching ww2 films
18:16 Yrouel but well it works
18:17 Cprossu hey egrsteve, yNos, you two around?
18:19 wannabe1987 lol i stopped by tj's house and it logged me into his internet....thats funny.
18:20 wannabe1987 sorry for not responding, astro73|roam, killakee, i wasn't there.
18:20 wannabe1987 but i am now :D
18:20 wannabe1987 hi
18:20 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve I started working on the NOC video rack, chris wants 'at least 50 cameras per', I've found mixing baluns causes disaster, I got that 16 port security D/A ready for installation, and chris stopped me when he found out I intended to use coax patch bays to avoid the hell that is mixing baluns... so when is the next time you'll be in?
18:20 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
18:21 wannabe1987 astro73|roam, you better be here tonight....
18:21 Sgt_Lemming mixing baluns per end, or per patch panel?
18:21 Cprossu My feeling is the first 16 cameras will pass through the D/A so we can pass clear video from them to the bluecherry, superchips, and to master control
18:21 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: meaning per single run
18:21 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that makes sense
18:22 Cprossu they are built slightly differently
18:22 Cprossu mising them causes chaos
18:22 Sgt_Lemming yeah
18:22 Cprossu hence defeating the purpose of punching them down to a cat5 panel
18:22 Sgt_Lemming I would expect that
18:22 Cprossu unless they are all matched
18:24 Cprossu so the comcast techs tell me that we can get 100/10 at the lab, yet when I call the billing dept they think it's only capable of 16/2
18:24 Cprossu it's frustrating as hell
18:24 Cprossu plus we have a defective tap plate
18:24 Sgt_Lemming get the tech out there, get them on the line to talk to the billing dept
18:24 Cprossu which they were supposed to replace yesterday
18:25 Cprossu I've got the business supervisors number, but I can't do a darn thing until I am able to find out who our 'business represenative' is or whatever
18:26 Cprossu plus we're trying to nail the packet loss scenario
18:26 Cprossu at least we know why we are traffic shaped at 2 freaking mbits upload
18:27 Electricguy a cheaper alternative to Raspberry Pi! :D http://nwlinux.com/allwinner-a10-cheaper-raspberry-pi/
18:27 BotSteve Title: allwinner A10 Cheaper Alternative to Raspberry Pi? | nwlinux
18:27 Electricguy 15 bucks
18:27 wannabe1987 lol
18:27 wannabe1987 is 25 too much>
18:27 wannabe1987 ?*
18:28 Electricguy some might think
18:28 Electricguy otherwise that computer wouldn't be around
18:28 Cprossu I hate corporate ladder responsibility ladder bullshit
18:28 Electricguy and in Soviet US it hates YOU! ;)
18:28 Cprossu lol
18:28 Cprossu well good
18:28 Cprossu now I need to figure out how to get another truck rolled down here
18:29 Yrouel Electricguy wow it have sata connection too
18:29 SparkyProjects Cprossu, surely if the baluns at both ends are say  600 Ohm twin to coax 75 Ohm they should work
18:29 SparkyProjects Be aware that if the baluns have a connection form the balanced to unbalanced, and the camera is on a different phase to the patch end, that can cause problems
18:30 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqzUmJmWRYw <--- that is an awesome, but oh so harsh fighting move
18:30 BotSteve Title: Ong Bak, Knee Drop, Final fight! - YouTube
18:31 Cprossu bbl folks
18:31 Yrouel Electricguy uhm is it capable of working standalone or it's only a pcmia peripheral?
18:32 Electricguy don't ask me. i just found it
18:32 Electricguy it most likely says on the website
18:32 Sgt_Lemming I think the pcmcia is to connect peripherals
18:32 Electricguy yeah most likely
18:32 Electricguy as it's pretty much a IDE bus
18:32 Sgt_Lemming yeah, http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/overview.png
18:32 Sgt_Lemming no, looks like they are just using the pcmcia connector
18:32 Electricguy heh yeah
18:33 Sgt_Lemming not the pcmcia protocol
18:33 Electricguy a multi I/O connector then
18:33 Sgt_Lemming bbiab
18:33 Electricguy kk
18:37 Electricguy gaah! damn headache! -,-
18:38 Electricguy it's cause of my damn pollen allergy..
18:39 Yrouel http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68
18:39 BotSteve Title: Embedded Open Modular Architecture/EOMA-68 - eLinux.org
18:39 Yrouel here is better explained
18:47 Sgt_Lemming damn it, so hungry
18:48 Sgt_Lemming but not sure if I should eat what I have, and it's FAR too fucking cold to go and get something else
18:48 Sgt_Lemming .weather ybbn
18:48 BotSteve Clear ☼, 8℃, 1020mb, Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - YBBN 18:30Z
18:48 Sgt_Lemming .calc 8c in f
18:48 BotSteve 46.4 degrees Fahrenheit
18:49 wannabe1987 rather chilly
18:49 Sgt_Lemming indeed
18:49 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
18:49 BotSteve Scattered, 73.4℉ (23℃), 30.07in (1015mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KGRR 17:53Z
18:49 wannabe1987 now thats better
18:49 Sgt_Lemming not even properly winter here yet
18:49 wannabe1987 it was warm out tho :D
18:49 wannabe1987 o.o
18:49 Sgt_Lemming shaping up to be a cold one this year
18:49 wannabe1987 how cold does it get?!
18:49 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe, nows the perfect time to move to florida....you'll miss winter :D
18:49 Sgt_Lemming normally, not much colder than it is now
18:49 Sgt_Lemming but not till later in the year
18:50 Sgt_Lemming this cold this early in the year is unusual
18:50 CaptainNiobe i know, wannabe... find me the money and i will :P
18:50 wannabe1987 if i had money for you to move to florida i wouldn't be in trouble with debtors! :P
18:50 wannabe1987 and zozo would have his stuff from nc
18:50 Sgt_Lemming average low temp for May in brisbane is 13.5c
18:50 Sgt_Lemming 56.3f
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18:50 CaptainNiobe i know that :P
18:51 Sgt_Lemming coldest month according to wikipedia is july here
18:51 Sgt_Lemming still 2 months away....
18:52 CaptainNiobe i was born in july... :(
18:53 wannabe1987 really
18:53 wannabe1987 when?
18:53 * Damianz paws wannabe1987
18:53 CaptainNiobe 10th
18:53 wannabe1987 hi Damianz
18:53 Damianz Hi :D
18:53 * Electricguy was born the 16th of may.. IE. i 2 days from now
18:53 wannabe1987 oooo
18:53 wannabe1987 birthdays!
18:53 Electricguy yeh
18:54 Electricguy turning 20soo excited.. not :P
18:54 CaptainNiobe awww, eg's gonna be the big 2-0... :D
18:54 wannabe1987 yay two decades!
18:54 Electricguy i stopped to think it was fun with birthdays when i was like 14.. lol
18:54 wannabe1987 today is my sisters birthday....she's older than you as she is 20 today :D
18:54 Damianz I hate birthdays
18:54 wannabe1987 :(  why?
18:55 Electricguy yeah whats the point of birthdays? it's like celebrating that you are one year closer to death. How amusing
18:55 Damianz My birthday is in december so it means holidays because of christmas which means wanting to diaf etc
18:55 wannabe1987 ahhhhh.....whenn in dec?  my moms is dec 25
18:55 Damianz Also WTF would I want to celebrate getting older, it's like pointing out what you failed to do in the year.
18:55 Damianz 5th
18:58 wannabe1987 gibroni is a monkey, that is all
18:58 Damianz He's an awesome monkey
18:59 wannabe1987 he doesn't use steps. only the fire escape ladder
18:59 wannabe1987 unless he has camera, then steps
18:59 Damianz I think he should climb the ladder with a camera
18:59 Damianz Like one of the big jvcs :D
19:03 wannabe1987 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
19:03 BotSteve Title: Why Nikola Tesla was the greatest geek who ever lived - The Oatmeal
19:04 Sgt_Lemming he was also a raving nutcase
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19:09 astro73|roam "Tesla was known for discovering amazing things and then forgetting to write them down."
19:10 Electricguy yeeah that happens to me too
19:10 Electricguy too often
19:10 Cprossu he didn't forget, he just was 'done' with it ;)
19:11 Cprossu many of us are like that
19:11 Electricguy lulz http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578118_378689352178553_251216264925863_931499_844572081_n.jpg
19:12 wannabe1987 well, i learned quite a bit there
19:12 wannabe1987 astro
19:22 Hackbat woo :3
19:22 Hackbat http://www.dx.com/p/92096
19:22 Hackbat gonna has me a SDR
19:22 BotSteve Title: Ezcap EZTV668 DVB-T Digital TV USB 2.0 Dongle with FM/DAB/Remote Controller - Worldwide Free Shipping - DX
19:32 wannabe1987 if you're gonna paint on something shiny, do you need to rough it up with sand paper first?
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19:45 Seroster o
19:48 Seroster Drama. Crap.
19:49 Electricguy Seroster, I WAS IN EFFIN KRISTIANSTAD TODAY! DAMNIT!
19:49 Seroster OLY CRAP!
19:49 Seroster Want a medal?
19:50 Electricguy was at feltema ( very exotic) and at Rofab...
19:50 Electricguy yeah sure.. why not? :P
19:50 Seroster Lol, why?
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19:50 Seroster I hate the feltema roundabout
19:50 Electricguy was with my dad at his job today
19:51 Electricguy yes. that whole area around there on a bike == less than fun..
19:51 Seroster What's his job?
19:51 Seroster That whole area == ltf
19:51 Electricguy fixing boom lifts and stuffs
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19:51 Electricguy and other types of similar machines..
19:52 Seroster Seriously, "HEY! Let's put all the shopping centers on the very edge of town far far away from any customers.....    Why don't we get any customers?"
19:52 Electricguy SO! he was at Rofab today to get some certificate to be allowed to drive the shit..
19:52 Electricguy and i brought my bike and pulled over to Biltema and derped around a bit
19:52 Electricguy LOL yeah! thats really true :P
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19:53 Seroster Within one year, elgiganten, onoff and some other electronics junk store has opened and... closed.    When do you ever go into such a shop? When you walk by it and think "Yeah... I need a new computer mouse"
19:53 Seroster ANY person motivated enough to travel that far for a computer is motivated enough to get it via the internet. IT'S PHYSICS.....
19:54 Electricguy exactly..
19:55 Chipguy lol
19:55 Electricguy rather than going like 8km into town to buy some computer stuff i can order it on the net.. CHEAPER! and WALK 200meters to the grocery store to pick the stuff up..
19:55 Seroster Btw, dunno how much you know about kristianstad geography, but there is a square called södratorg....
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19:55 Chipguy so thats whats going on in sweden atm ?
19:55 Electricguy mkay.. never heard of it
19:55 Seroster Neither has anyone else
19:55 Electricguy lulz ok :P
19:56 Seroster They made the big fancy square, lots of small niche shops opened up and... Nobody bothered to walk a hundred meters to get there.
19:56 Experimentonomen guten nabend herr Chipguy
19:56 Seroster If the county paid H&M ammount X to move there that part of town would be a buisniess center...
19:56 Seroster Chipguy, Not a lot.
19:56 Electricguy lol.. damn fail :P
19:57 Chipguy hey exp
19:57 Seroster I hate this town. Damn sinking swamp, smells awful, water hard as hell and inhabitants are stupid
19:58 Electricguy "Kristianstads vattenrike" is pretty cool though.. dunno if you have been there
19:58 Chipguy Seroster: that was not a question, i was just pointing out that compared to germany it seems that there is going on a lot
19:58 egrsteve hello
19:58 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
19:58 BotSteve At 18:20Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve I started working on the NOC video rack, chris wants 'at least 50 cameras per', I've found mixing baluns causes disaster, I got that 16 port security D/A ready for installation, and chris stopped me when he found out I intended to use coax patch bays to avoid the hell that is mixing baluns... so when is the next time you'll be in?
19:58 Electricguy the effin NATURUM mitt in tha stad!
19:58 Electricguy thats aimed to seroster btw...
19:59 Seroster Chipguy, Oh, sorry, I thought your sentence was a question, might be because of the QUESTION MARK  xD
19:59 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huyK3JeScVo <-- thats wut i've been up to today, i've also decomponented the board from the se ips project
19:59 BotSteve Title: 1982 Elektor amp - YouTube
19:59 Chipguy yeah sort of
19:59 Seroster Electricguy, Haven't been to either naturum or vattenriket... Is it free?
19:59 Electricguy lol ok
19:59 Electricguy yeah it's free
19:59 Seroster What kinda stuff is it?
20:00 Seroster Like kids science fair?
20:00 egrsteve .seen ynos
20:00 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw yNos 69.73 hours ago at 2012-05-11 22:16:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:00:17 UTC
20:00 Electricguy it's about birds, fish n' shits.. XD it's a bit unusual though..
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20:00 Electricguy have made some stuff for that place.. :P
20:00 Seroster Btw, Chipguy, going bad for Angela Merkel?
20:00 egrsteve thata odd
20:00 Electricguy at the place i had my job practise before
20:00 Chipguy Seroster: yes, good news actually
20:00 egrsteve i look for ynos and he arrives
20:00 Seroster Chipguy, I like merkel... She got moustache.
20:01 Chipguy since merkel still wants to take the freedom away
20:01 Seroster egrsteve, Probably a sign that you got psychic powers.
20:01 Chipguy now its much harder for her
20:01 Seroster She has more hair on her lips than I do. She is awesome.
20:01 Chipguy lol
20:01 Chipguy actually its neither a she or he
20:01 Chipguy its an it
20:02 Chipguy It, The Merkel
20:02 Seroster Nah, she's the übermeister auf wunderbaum.
20:02 Chipguy Her days maybe over soon
20:02 Seroster Btw, Ich ficken bie ein weltmeister. And so does she. Lol.
20:02 Chipguy Well, at least i hope
20:03 Yrouel is more important what appens to greece imho
20:03 Chipguy lol
20:03 Chipguy "Ich ficke wie ein Weltmeiter"
20:03 Seroster Yrouel, Screw greece
20:03 Seroster Is it meiter?
20:03 Seroster Crud.
20:03 Chipguy ooops
20:03 Chipguy no
20:03 Chipguy Meister
20:03 Seroster HA!
20:03 Yrouel yeah but Seroster if greece go down all europe basically can fall apart
20:03 Chipguy "Ich ficke wie ein Weltmeister"
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20:03 Seroster I speak better german than the german dude.
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20:04 chunks hello
20:04 Chipguy no, you just type better
20:04 Electricguy OH FUCK YES!! found some pain killers!
20:04 wannabe1987 hi
20:04 Chipguy and thats no art, when you count my typos
20:04 wannabe1987 lol
20:04 Seroster Chipguy, Right. The spam mail I got a few years ago was "Ficken wie ein weltmeister" =P
20:04 Chipguy wohoooo eg
20:04 Electricguy now lets hope the damp wood pulp in my skull shirks a bit!
20:04 Experimentonomen Electricguy, werent u immune to painkillers
20:04 Experimentonomen ?
20:04 * wannabe1987 didn't remember that paint made such a mess of her fingers....
20:04 Electricguy regular ones.. :P
20:05 Electricguy these are bad ass from the drug store :P
20:05 Electricguy they work
20:05 wannabe1987 oooo he's got the big guns....:P
20:05 Chipguy Electricguy: what are they ?
20:05 Experimentonomen g'evenin chunks, wannabe1987
20:05 wannabe1987 hi speriment
20:05 Yrouel hi wannabe1987
20:05 wannabe1987 hi
20:05 Chipguy yeah hi wannabe1987
20:06 Chipguy Electricguy got quiet
20:07 Chipguy that painkillers seem to work.... too good :P
20:07 Electricguy Chipguy, Metoklopramid
20:07 Electricguy is what it says on the box
20:07 Chipguy oh
20:07 Electricguy it's for migrane..
20:07 Electricguy only shit that works on me o_O
20:07 Seroster Electricguy, how about some benzo?
20:08 egrsteve hmm, sitting at subway looks like they left the key in the soda fountain, again
20:08 Electricguy lulz
20:08 mashpriborintorg hmm.  ebay temptations. http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=310400572517&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
20:08 BotSteve Title: STI-69 Fernschreibverzerrungsmesser der NVA ! en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 20-mai-12 22:20:31 Paris)
20:08 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/9j5p6.png
20:08 Chipguy errr Electricguy just looked that up in wikipedia
20:08 Electricguy mash, cool :)
20:09 Yrouel mashpriborintorg what it is?
20:09 mashpriborintorg mystery unidentifed stuff ;p
20:09 Chipguy Metoklopramid just supports the painkillers
20:09 Chipguy but its not a painkiller
20:09 Chipguy at least it says o wiko
20:09 Chipguy wiki
20:09 Electricguy hrm.. o_O thats what it says on the box..
20:09 * Electricguy is confused..
20:09 mashpriborintorg no clue of what it is and the german word can't be translated :p
20:10 Chipguy its for helping ASS and paracetamol
20:10 Chipguy to be taken in combination
20:10 Electricguy well.. the crap seem to work at least.. the headache is starting to go away.. lol
20:10 mashpriborintorg but it is russian, huge, heeay, and cheap, everything I love
20:10 Electricguy for helping ASS? XD oh dear... :P
20:10 Chipguy Metoclopramid
20:10 Chipguy lol
20:11 Chipguy helping acetyl salicyl acid
20:12 astro73|roam rule 1: never curse at the guy that's doing his job and trying to help you
20:12 Chipguy Aspirin lol
20:13 astro73|roam meditation
20:13 Chipguy its helping other medicin to work better
20:13 Chipguy like aspiron or paracetamol Electricguy
20:14 Chipguy http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoklopramid
20:14 BotSteve Title: Metoklopramid - Wikipedia
20:15 Chipguy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide
20:15 BotSteve Title: Metoclopramide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:16 Chipguy quote : Metoclopramide is commonly used to treat nausea including that which is due to chemotherapy and that occurring post operatively. Evidence also supports its use for gastroparesis (poor stomach emptying) and gastroesophageal reflux disease.
20:17 Experimentonomen Chipguy, u a pharmacy employee ? u seem to know a bit of medicine
20:17 Experimentonomen ;p
20:18 Chipguy i just work for a company that does medical stuff
20:19 Chipguy http://imgv2-1.scribdassets.com/img/word_document/89966790/255x300/4f3bec8d88/1334752170
20:19 Chipguy ok going to watch some stuff
20:20 Experimentonomen hm this super simple amp has really good bass responce despite using really old caps from like the 70's
20:20 Experimentonomen :op
20:20 Experimentonomen :o
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20:33 wannabe1987 ...
20:34 * wannabe1987 is watching paint dry
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20:35 Yrouel anyone knows where I can see "dirty jobs" episodes online?
20:39 SparkyProjects1 Have you looked at Youtube ?
20:39 SparkyProjects1 Do a search on there, and select 'longer than 20 mins', there seem to be a few
20:39 BitViper hey wannabe1987, do you know of anyone down there that'd have a place i can stay this friday night ?
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20:40 HighMan Hey all
20:40 HighMan Can someone kick HighCell for me?
20:40 Yrouel SparkyProjects1 thanks
20:41 Yrouel I searched but I didn't thouth at the lenght filter
20:42 wannabe1987 BitViper:  maybe
20:45 BitViper im not sure yet if i can make it, but want to. depends on other events this week. including possibly losing my internet =(
20:53 mashpriborintorg going to sleepp, bye
20:55 HighMan xD ^
20:59 wannabe1987 y u lose internet
21:00 BitViper wannabe1987 cuz im 2 bills behind as of last wednesday, i gotta have the overdue one paid by wed or they'll kill it
21:01 BitViper im holding my breath that either my taxes come or a client that owes me pulls his head out of his ass and his wallet out of his pocket by then
21:01 HighMan O_O
21:02 wannabe1987 i c
21:05 wannabe1987 how would you pay gas to get here if you can't pay your internet?
21:06 BitViper wannabe1987 : if i get either payment i'll have money for gas too =)
21:06 wannabe1987 ic
21:07 astro73|roam for the web/javascript gurus in here, which do you think is faster? Having the browser parse some XML/HTML or manually building a DOM tree?
21:07 BitViper technically i have enough gas in the car now, just wont have anything but fumes when i get back
21:07 BitViper astro73 : by manually you mean with js ?
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21:08 BitViper or are you trying to get the dom tree from the html/xml
21:08 BitViper either way, im pretty sure the browser can do it faster than you can =p
21:09 BitViper well, unless youre using ie
21:11 HighMan xD IE
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21:12 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv3glg56PWc \o/
21:12 BotSteve Title: Solitary Man [WoW Music Video] - YouTube
21:12 astro73|roam BitViper: I'm writing a JS templating engine, so I'm wondering if it's faster to have the browser parse snippets and then traverse them for the dynamics, or just make piles of DOM calls
21:12 astro73|roam the latter makes for much simpler code
21:13 BitViper astro73 : ah, in that case unless you are after serious performance id go with the latter, modularized/oop'd of course
21:14 astro73|roam this is all generated code, i don't care about layers too much
21:14 BitViper i suspect the two would actually be similar in performance, with the latter a little behind, but not enough to make a huge difference most likely
21:14 astro73|roam i'm more worried about the nested functions i'm using that let me not worry about namespacing and tracking variables
21:16 BitViper ugh
21:19 * wannabe1987 is having too much fun with arts and crafts time ! :D
21:20 wannabe1987 this is what happesnw hen you give me paint, a piece of glass, and things to paint.....first we mix colors on the glass (which came from a picture frame) then we just painted on the glass.
21:20 astro73|roam BitViper: https://gist.github.com/2697200 is what i have so far
21:20 wannabe1987 weeee! :D
21:20 BotSteve Title: My Templating Format — Gist
21:21 HighCell ;@
21:21 wannabe1987 why yes, yes i am bored waiting for paint to dry, how could you tell?
21:21 HighCell You are watching it dry.
21:23 wannabe1987 when it dries i get to do another layer if needed.
21:23 wannabe1987 i have no blue left, so i hope its not needed :P
21:23 astro73|roam yeah watching paint dry!
21:23 HighCell ^best thing ever
21:23 wannabe1987 astro, remind me to show you it tonight, i need your opinion on something....
21:23 wannabe1987 its for jqm
21:24 HighCell It looks good!
21:24 astro73|roam ok
21:25 astro73|roam i'm not sure why you'd want a boy's opinion on it, but you can show me
21:26 BitViper wannabe1987 : is it getting recorded for the blog :)
21:26 wannabe1987 not really opinion, but i need to figure something out and you're good with that :nods:
21:26 BitViper the paint drying i mean
21:26 wannabe1987 nope, because its a side project
21:26 wannabe1987 ^^
21:27 HighCell Hackintosh time!
21:27 BitViper astro : gah! nested functions suck monkey balls
21:28 BitViper so does xml imo
21:28 astro73|roam BitViper: kinda, but there's a certain functional elegance to this.
21:28 astro73|roam plus, it meant a LOT simpler code for the generator
21:29 BitViper in js at least i define the functions separately and then i can just put the names in the nestings. still sucks, but much easier to maintain
21:29 BitViper same in perl
21:29 astro73|roam oh, i would find that tedious in JS after a while
21:30 astro73|roam when you really get events and asyncronous going? anonymous functions are your friend
21:30 HighCell So far install gooood.
21:30 BitViper id say the same in c, but havent done c in years
21:30 astro73|roam in this case, though, i'm using it to help organize my code and let me be lazy and not track generated variable names
21:31 BitViper i think the last time i did c was writing the base code for one of the codecs in the asterisk voip software a decade-ish ago
21:32 astro73|roam that's a good use of C
21:33 BitViper heh, not much other decent choice for such
21:34 BitViper could use assembler
21:34 BitViper =)
21:35 astro73|roam i'm of the opinion that C is overused, and time would be better spent if most code was developed in another language
21:35 astro73|roam number-crunching, high-performance, and limited-time code are good places to use C
21:38 BitViper hgher level languages, ala js, java, flash, make things too easy because they hide the inner workings by using modules. this is great for easy programming, but HORRIBLE for performance and bugs
21:38 BitViper even much of todays C is written in a high-level manner resulting in the same problems
21:38 BitViper thats why todays programs are so friggin bulky
21:39 BitViper and buggy
21:39 astro73|roam well, yes. you traded computer resources for human resources
21:39 Yrouel well js engines received a lot of optimization fortunately
21:39 astro73|roam buggy is just bad programming
21:39 BitViper not when the bugs are in the underlying modules that youre using which were written by someone else
21:39 BitViper well, yes, bad programming, but not necessarily by you
21:40 astro73|roam also, good programmers are hard to find and bugs happen
21:40 astro73|roam Yrouel: so do a lot of languages
21:41 BitViper true good programmers are a nearly extinct race, and most businesses wont pay the price they'd ask anyway
21:41 astro73|roam but you're going to have a hard time beating straight-up pure C in small to medium software
21:41 Yrouel flash plugin still sucks...
21:41 astro73|roam Yrouel: <video> sucks more, if only in CPU usage
21:42 astro73|roam BitViper: they don't know what they're missing
21:42 BitViper the only way to beat *well written c* is with hand written assembler
21:42 astro73|roam BitViper: unless it's large and you're comparing it to LISP
21:42 BitViper astro73|roam : some of them probably do know, but are tied too tightly to the bottom line
21:42 Yrouel astro73|roam h264 is hardware accelerated almos always nowadays
21:43 astro73|roam Yrouel: Cprossu just did testing on this. Trust me when I say that <video> slurps CPU
21:43 BitViper video will always eat cpu
21:43 astro73|roam BitViper: not always. VLC in the same tests sipped it
21:43 BitViper with the same video ?
21:43 Yrouel personally my laptop runs cool and quiet viewing youtube with h264 with flash not so much
21:43 astro73|roam not sure of the exact paramaters, but yes
21:43 BitViper wow
21:44 BitViper i knew thre was a reason i used vlc :)
21:44 Yrouel too bad that devs messed up really the mac version of vlc
21:46 astro73|roam i expect other local software (eg, gstreamer) will perform closer to VLC than HTML5
21:47 Yrouel yeah just done a quick test with a video
21:48 Yrouel cpu is used more with flash thatn quitcktime (h264)
21:48 Yrouel than*
21:48 astro73|roam i thought flash was hardware accelerated, but the tests showed otherwise
21:48 Yrouel in theory adobe added that on macs too
21:49 astro73|roam if you want fun?
21:49 astro73|roam try it with the <video> tag
21:49 Yrouel the situation is better but still sucks
21:49 Yrouel I was trying that
21:49 astro73|roam that's not flash, that's HTML5
21:49 Yrouel I just done a quick test on a video
21:49 Yrouel with bot
21:49 Yrouel both
21:49 astro73|roam ok
21:50 Yrouel I don't know which os and browser  cprossu tested but on mac h264 performs better than flash
21:51 astro73|roam this was linux+firefox
21:51 Yrouel basically
21:51 astro73|roam the wider project gives constraints
21:51 Yrouel the worst case scenario...
21:51 Yrouel and how cprossu tested h264 on firefox
21:51 Yrouel if they don't support it?
21:52 Yrouel it was webm maybe
21:52 Yrouel wich isn't hw accelerated
21:52 astro73|roam youtube flash, html5, and local
21:52 Yrouel html5 is just the markup language
21:52 Yrouel but what codec tested for video tag?
21:52 astro73|roam probably WebM, it was auto-selected by YouTube
21:52 Yrouel it must be webm
21:53 Yrouel yeah nobody cares about webm really
21:53 astro73|roam like i said, i don't know all the details
21:53 astro73|roam except for google
21:53 Yrouel yes and no
21:53 Yrouel google tried
21:53 Yrouel but chrome on mac for example
21:53 Yrouel do support h264
21:53 Yrouel or betterh
21:53 Yrouel isn't chrome that support the codec
21:54 astro73|roam but i don't think chromium supports h264
21:54 Yrouel chrome simply open the video tag to whatever codec is on the system
21:54 Yrouel astro73|roam no but if the os does <video> picks the codec from the system
21:54 Yrouel so on mac and windows it should work
21:54 Yrouel with quicktime and windows media player respectively
21:54 astro73|roam Yrouel: i don't think so. if that was the case, it should have been using gstreamer on linux+gnome
21:55 Yrouel I can speak for mac platform and here chrome do play h264 videos
21:55 astro73|roam i know chrome supports h264
21:55 astro73|roam https://www.youtube.com/html5 says so
21:55 BotSteve Title: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
21:57 Experimentonomen *yawn* aight im gonna goto bed
21:57 Experimentonomen nite peepz
21:57 Yrouel astro73|roam on linux I don't know the situation
21:57 Yrouel probably is pretty messed up
21:58 Yrouel with x264
21:58 astro73|roam i expect that KDE and Gnome have their own media frameworks
21:58 Yrouel yeah
21:58 astro73|roam gnome using gstreamer
21:58 Yrouel anyway
21:58 Yrouel try to test on windows
21:58 astro73|roam plus VLC and mplayer, which i think both largely use ffmpeg
21:59 Yrouel google did the best thing they could do open the video tag to whatever the system support
21:59 Yrouel mozilla didn't
21:59 astro73|roam i assume they had good technical reasons for it
21:59 Yrouel and they've been forced by reality to change their minds
21:59 Yrouel at least on mobile
22:00 Yrouel astro73|roam for mozilla was an ideological reason
22:00 astro73|roam *shrug*
22:00 astro73|roam i go now
22:00 Yrouel they wanted to push webm
22:01 Yrouel but since google couldn't loose all the ios users and other platforms based on h264
22:01 Yrouel they could'n suppress h264 on youtube
22:01 Yrouel so nobody cared about mozilla and webm as long h264 was (and is) still available
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22:32 * Yrouel 'night
22:35 Seroster Saw you got a new vid up SparkyProjects1, thumbnail looks promising, will watch tomorrow
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23:05 Sgt_Lemming doctors appt booked
23:05 Sgt_Lemming lets hope something useful comes out of it
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23:12 wannabe1987 good lem!
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23:59 BitViper good luck to both you and the doc lem

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