Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-05-24

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00:03 egrsteve is that a problem?
00:07 BitViper hey egrsteve : do i remember hearing someone, maybe you, mention recently either here or in the blog about doing some sort of cisco self-study stuff ?? would you know who that might have been ?
00:15 exor674 wannabe1987: go you!
00:15 exor674 er I mean
00:16 exor674 .. no bad wannabe1987, you eat your veggies THEN you can hace ice cream
00:16 exor674 ( unless you share )
00:16 wannabe1987 lol
00:16 wannabe1987 its the lab's ice cream....
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00:18 wannabe1987 dredre, you just wish you were here so you could have ice cream too!
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00:19 wannabe1987 http://pinterest.com/pin/251146116690486025/  i want to do this....wonder where i could get a pallet
00:19 BotSteve Title: Decorating the Ghetto Apartment / Recycled Shipping Pallet Coffee Table
00:19 exor674 yes, I am totally jealous of you and your awesome ice cream
00:19 BitViper aaaaaaaaaannddddd ... all that fuss means I just lost all of my servers, dns, web, mail, minecraft, the whole buttload
00:19 exor674 or you, your awesome, and your ice cream
00:19 exor674 BitViper: ... ack
00:20 exor674 did your computer blow up?
00:20 wannabe1987 no
00:20 egrsteve did you clean the icecream scoop in MDH?
00:20 exor674 wannabe1987: I asusme you know where you can steal a pallet from :P
00:21 wannabe1987 no, i have no clue where i can get a pallet from :P
00:21 wannabe1987 steve, we have an ice cream scoop?
00:21 wannabe1987 actually, i'll need help getting paint, not a pallet
00:21 BitViper exor674 : no, all my web servers, and the services that go with them, were just taken down. I expected this, theres nothing I can do about it. But I now have no services, most especially I now have no way to receive email, since I provide all my own services.
00:21 exor674 ack
00:21 egrsteve yes, MDH main set table, near the panel saw, as of yesterday still dirty ;(
00:22 wannabe1987 hm.  didn't know that.  i used a plastic spoon
00:22 exor674 I am not sure I'd use an ice cream scoop that's in the MDH
00:22 BitViper egrsteve did you see my earlier question ? did you answer while I was discon ?
00:22 egrsteve no
00:22 BitViper egrsteve : do i remember hearing someone, maybe you, mention recently either here or in the blog about doing some sort of cisco self-study stuff ?? would you know who that might have been ?
00:23 egrsteve no I do not knoe
00:23 egrsteve *know
00:24 BitViper hrm, i know it was one of the computer geeks, just cant remember who
00:24 BitViper i wonder cuz I need to do the same
00:29 Yrouel linux mint 13 just released
00:33 * Yrouel 'night
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00:43 Carvagon i might know a guy who has all the cisco self study stuff.  he is lookin right now
00:44 BitViper i have a friend who has all the regular books but their a couple "generations" old, but he is willing to send me a real cisco router (2525 i think he said) to practice with
00:46 Carvagon thats pretty cool.  his are 2 generations old he says and would be no good
00:50 LemLap bleh, sweaty lemming
00:50 LemLap clambering up and down a ladder
00:51 * BitViper gets the fire hose
00:52 wannabe1987 did you start a fire?
00:52 * exor674 drinks from the firehose
00:52 wannabe1987 o.o
00:52 BitViper gotta clean off lemlap
00:53 wannabe1987 ah.  he left
00:53 BitViper i noticed, prolly scared of the hose
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00:58 LemLap .log
00:58 BotSteve LemLap: Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
00:59 wannabe1987 hi detrix: the linux group is on friday this week, fyi
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01:06 * lwq1996 wonders who has a torrent link to minecraft installer for linux
01:07 BitViper perhaps the minecraft website ?
01:07 lwq1996 but then i would have to pay :P
01:07 detrix wannabe1987, really, I thought I missed it. Just got a new puppy  Husky/shepard mix, from White Cloud.
01:08 BitViper a torrent copy wont get you anything a real copy wont
01:08 wannabe1987 yay puppy!
01:08 BitViper and you only have to pay for an account to play on regular servers, you can still play single player, or on a server set to "offline" mode
01:08 lwq1996 when i get 20dollars i would gladly pay for it. but right now i dont have it
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01:09 BitViper a torrent copy wont get you onto normal servers
01:09 lwq1996 ik
01:10 BitViper so why look for a torrent copy
01:10 BitViper there's no difference between the unpaid and paid client
01:10 BitViper get a copy of the client, play in single player mode for now
01:11 BitViper thats how i started
01:12 Carvagon i have never played minecraft
01:12 Carvagon heard its addicting
01:12 BitViper can be
01:13 BitViper there's a large and growing contingent of minecrappers in here
01:14 BitViper we even built a model of the lab in minecraft, mostly scale accurate
01:19 wannabe1987 bye  bbl
01:20 BitViper l8r
01:21 Carvagon lol thats pretty sweet.  i offered to help draw up the lab in 3d CAD.  definately cant help in minecraft lol
01:22 BitViper i have a full model of the outside done in google sketchup, complete with the handycap ramp, rails, sidewalks, dog fence, etc
01:22 BitViper id link to it, but, well, all my servers were taken down an hour ago
01:22 Carvagon thats cool.  and that sucks royally at the same time
01:23 BitViper i have it set up to view in google earth in correct placement
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01:23 BitViper gonna have to model Atlas (the truck) now
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01:24 BitViper oh, and the minecraft model is complete with working sewer and street drains :)
01:24 Danny G' Evening
01:24 BitViper aloha
01:25 Carvagon hahaha thats fantastic
01:25 BitViper some of us (*looks innocent*) got a bit ocd on it :)
01:26 lwq1996 someone should gift me minecraft :P
01:27 Carvagon hey if ur gonna do it, do it right lol
01:27 BitViper exactly
01:28 Carvagon damn i might have to do some quick measurements while im there and get a Revit model started lol
01:29 BitViper when are you going to be around ?
01:30 Carvagon well im hoping probably late june mid july.  have some stuff i want to get together before i come.  but might take me a few
01:32 Carvagon i really need to make a list lol
01:32 Carvagon ill forget
01:32 BitViper bah, lists are for wimps =P (hides all the scraps of paper on his des)
01:32 BitViper *desk
01:33 Carvagon lol (hides the file on his phone as Christmas Card Thank You's)
01:33 BitViper lol
01:34 BitViper *disguises his list on his gps unit as series of geocaches*
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01:34 lwq1996 tom corbett is fucking stupid
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01:42 Carvagon lol hopefully they can use everything im gonna bring
01:42 BitViper i think they'd find a way to use pretty much anything one way or another
01:44 Carvagon it will be the most random they have gotten thats for sure lol
01:51 BitViper that just makes it that much more fun
01:53 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: ... installer?
01:54 detrix I am working on a blender model of the geek group lab. I have only got the main enterance stairs done. here is a link to a  pic  of  what I have.  https://www.asuswebstorage.com/navigate/share/GY4FHNIJJ4
01:55 BotSteve Title: Online backup, file sync, for pad, PC, Android and iPhone - ASUS WebStorage
01:55 detrix for those who have not seen it yet
02:04 Hackbat Radioshow tonight?
02:05 SparkyProjects They've been working on the cameras, might just be the one they left it on
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02:23 Carvagon nice detrix
02:24 Carvagon of course i respond to somebody that isnt there.....awesome
02:24 Hackbat Gah I want implants so badly
02:25 Hackbat some magnets in my left hand and a rfid chip in my arm
02:25 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: You have no idea how well you set yourself up there.
02:25 Carvagon then go do it.  buy the rfid and have it implanted by ur doctor
02:27 Hackbat i care more about the magnets in my fingers
02:30 Carvagon lol
02:36 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
02:36 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 1.28 hours ago at 2012-05-24 01:19:56 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:36:30 UTC
02:37 Monkeh|Lap I am an evil man.
02:37 Monkeh|Lap For I have just arbitrarily defined the letter z as a kickable offence in a channel.
02:38 Cprossu .seen yNos
02:38 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw yNos 57.41 hours ago at 2012-05-21 17:13:27 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 02:38:13 UTC
02:38 Monkeh|Lap A wild Cprossu
02:39 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-O_lFm-mBg&feature=related
02:39 BotSteve Title: 8 Weeks Old Malamute Puppy Iida - YouTube
02:40 Hackbat Omni would die
02:40 Hackbat it's a tribble shaped like a puppy
02:55 lwq1996 wow oracle made something useful!
02:55 BitViper youre kidding right, i mean, that'd be like the us gov doing something useful
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02:57 lwq1996 i find open office writer to be useful. not the best but useful
02:58 BitViper ah, open office. i c
02:58 lwq1996 :P
02:58 lwq1996 idk what else oracle made though
02:59 BitViper ok, im off to bed, back has decided ive been sitting upright too long
02:59 tehdark45 liber office is better
02:59 tehdark45 libre*
03:00 lwq1996 open office is free and what is on ubuntu already installed
03:00 tehdark45 lwq1996, try keeping IRC on IRC and Facebook on Facebook
03:01 lwq1996 i typed in the wrong box
03:01 tehdark45 lol
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03:21 lwq1996 .seen CaptainNiobe
03:21 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw CaptainNiobe 46.98 hours ago at 2012-05-22 04:23:05 UTC on #hsbne.  Current time: 03:21:57 UTC
03:22 CaptainNiobe i'm here, lee, wassup?
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03:25 lwq1996 hi wannabe1987
03:26 Cprossu hi wannabe1987, I'll be heading home in a little bit
03:27 Isopropyl|Laptop wannabe you said lug was friday?
03:28 wannabe1987 yes
03:28 Isopropyl|Laptop damn
03:28 wannabe1987 ok Cprossu
03:28 Isopropyl|Laptop i wont be there till sat night
03:28 wannabe1987 ahhhhh ok
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03:32 tehdark45 how is the essay lwq1996
03:32 lwq1996 GOOD
03:33 tehdark45 good aand essay dont mix
03:34 tehdark45 what are you smoking lwq1996?
03:34 lwq1996 WEED
03:36 wannabe1987 bacon
03:37 tehdark45 where?
03:38 wannabe1987 mah tummy, now....
03:39 tehdark45 no
03:39 wannabe1987 and zozo's tummy, astro's tummy, and jqm's tummy
03:39 tehdark45 i haz it
03:39 wannabe1987 i haz it too!
03:40 tehdark45 no you cant has :P
03:40 wannabe1987 idk i has it anyway!
03:40 tehdark45 What if bacon was an illegal substance?
03:40 tehdark45 oh god
03:41 wannabe1987 astro: i'm a pirate then
03:41 tehdark45 lol
03:42 tehdark45 we are all pirates
03:42 tehdark45 anyway
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03:44 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
03:46 lwq1996 BATSTEVE
03:46 lwq1996 fondles tehdark45
03:47 * tehdark45 goes to jail as lwq1996 is a minor :(
03:47 lwq1996 YA
03:47 lwq1996 HE TOUCHED ME YOUR HONOR
03:47 tehdark45 ill touch you alright
03:47 lwq1996 STRANGER DANGER!!!!!!!
03:47 tehdark45 with my 5 friends
03:47 tehdark45 :P
03:48 lwq1996 dont drop the soap in prison, unless you like it that way
03:49 wannabe1987 http://www.duitang.com/people/mblog/28825133/detail/  it are not in english, but it are awesome
03:49 BotSteve Title: 旧网球的回收再利用。这货不是吃豆人嘛!还真… 来自徐颖Peach在堆糖网的分享
03:50 Cheezmo Do want...
03:51 wannabe1987 i want to make them....
03:51 lwq1996 that would be easy
03:51 tehdark45 Cheezmo, the other canadian
03:51 lwq1996 though idk about a sucktion cup
03:51 tehdark45 can you give me drugs yet?
03:51 Cheezmo yo
03:51 Cheezmo not yet mang
03:51 tehdark45 damn
03:51 lwq1996 i want drugs!!!!!!!!
03:52 tehdark45 you are insane enough
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03:55 Cheezmo :P
04:01 lwq1996 MOOSES BIRTHDAY TOMORROW! as in 25th
04:01 tehdark45 tomorrow is 24th
04:01 lwq1996 idiot tgg is edt
04:01 wannabe1987 no, it are 24th now, it are midnight
04:02 tehdark45 i know lee
04:02 tehdark45 -_-
04:02 wannabe1987 then stop being an idiot, k?
04:02 wannabe1987 its not funny
04:03 lwq1996 :P
04:04 tehdark45 it's
04:04 tehdark45 :P
04:05 wannabe1987 can someone kick him please?
04:05 lwq1996 CaptainNiobe can :P
04:05 wannabe1987 this is why i need my mod status back....it needs to be flagged but noone can do it
04:05 wannabe1987 i'm a mod too....just not flagged as one
04:05 lwq1996 CaptainNiobe can straighten that out too
04:06 CaptainNiobe icandowhatnao?
04:06 wannabe1987 no, she cannot set flags, only BatSteve can
04:06 CaptainNiobe no, i can.
04:06 wannabe1987 be a mod, derp
04:06 wannabe1987 you can?
04:06 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
04:06 CaptainNiobe i can.
04:06 tehdark45 if you are gona tell someone to stop being stupid, then use proper english in it
04:06 CaptainNiobe matt, who you pissing off this time? :P
04:06 lwq1996 wannabe1987 has ops?
04:06 wannabe1987 yes.
04:08 lwq1996 niobe is wannabe getting ops?
04:08 CaptainNiobe idk... wait til i see if i can find out
04:08 tehdark45 lwq1996, is scared now :P
04:08 lwq1996 and can you please +q matt?
04:09 BatSteve wannabe1987: you're incorrect, CaptainNiobe can set flags
04:09 BatSteve all of the ops can
04:09 BatSteve also, who made you a mod?
04:09 lwq1996 zozo prob
04:09 tehdark45 who do you think BatSteve
04:11 BatSteve d'oh
04:11 tehdark45 lol
04:13 lwq1996 howdy batsteve, crash any planes yet?
04:13 BatSteve not today, happily
04:14 lwq1996 have you ever crashed one?
04:15 CaptainNiobe i would hope not lol
04:15 tehdark45 erryday
04:15 BatSteve nope
04:15 lwq1996 thats good
04:15 tehdark45 I crash planes
04:15 tehdark45 on flight simulator
04:16 tehdark45 :P
04:16 lwq1996 ive got an idea for people about to drive. build a car that is completely indestructable and rolls easy. build a course that you roll in the car and then they know how it is to be in a car wreck
04:17 BatSteve that's a really good idea
04:17 tehdark45 The thought of lee and driving. Oh god
04:17 lwq1996 pft, ive already driven before.
04:17 lwq1996 not on open road though
04:17 tehdark45 manual?
04:18 lwq1996 never had a chance
04:19 tehdark45 It's a load of bullshit here to get your full license
04:19 tehdark45 3 years
04:19 lwq1996 full license?
04:19 tehdark45 as in you can drive a normal car
04:19 lwq1996 18 if you got your license you can get your CDL's
04:20 tehdark45 by yourself
04:20 lwq1996 tehdark has no drivers license yet?
04:20 tehdark45 nope
04:20 lwq1996 why?
04:20 tehdark45 didnt bother going for it
04:20 tehdark45 never had a need
04:21 lwq1996 you will
04:21 lwq1996 unless your a rich bitch that has a showfier
04:21 tehdark45 here is the steps. Get a learners, have that for a year. Take test, get N, no driving more then one person but you can drive by yourself. 2 years later, class 5.
04:21 tehdark45 chaufer*
04:22 tehdark45 it's called french lwq1996, not american
04:22 tehdark45 :P
04:26 tehdark45 also public transportation, they have that in normal cities
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04:43 BatSteve hi wannabe1987
04:43 BatSteve who made you a mod?
04:43 wannabe1987 boden
04:45 BatSteve Ok.  There's an email address that's supposed to be used to notify us about stuff like this.  Neither me or Niobe has gotten any emails about it.
04:45 CaptainNiobe nope
04:45 wannabe1987 he did it on radio, thats probably why
04:45 BatSteve Well, that'd be why.
04:47 BatSteve When I get an email I'll change your flags.
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04:54 lwq1996 well i need to get sleep
04:54 lwq1996 later
04:54 wannabe1987 night
04:54 tehdark45 bye lee
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05:55 pockitaru hay is any one in here?
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05:57 LemLap yup
05:57 pockitau anyone?
05:57 pockitau awsome
05:57 LemLap sitting here killing some time atm
05:57 pockitau i have a Q
05:58 pockitau i need an opinion of performance on a computer
05:58 LemLap fire away
05:58 pockitau http://www.amazon.com/Compact-Dt-1TB-Core-I-7/dp/B005WKJDAG/ref=sr_1_67?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337838464&sr=1-67
05:58 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Compact Dt 1TB Core I-7: Electronics
05:58 pockitau please read the discription and let me know
05:59 pockitau and also what is a hot load
05:59 Twiddlekins_ from a reboot
06:00 Twiddlekins_ as opposed to cold load, from completely off
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06:00 pockitaru sorry having connection probs
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06:02 LemLap hot load can mean a number of things, but it normally means rebooting a computer as opposed to turning it on from when it was off
06:02 pockitaru_ so any thing?
06:03 pockitaru_ ok what about the tech details did you see them
06:03 LemLap yes
06:03 LemLap it sucks
06:03 LemLap it's a ripoff for what it is
06:04 pockitaru_ its for a low budgeted friend that is wanting to do animation
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06:05 pockitaru so its a rip off though
06:06 LemLap then he is going to want a LOT more ram, and better grapics
06:06 LemLap graphics
06:06 pockitaru he told me he cant spend more than $1500
06:06 pockitaru we costum that right?
06:07 LemLap then spend $1500 at somehwere like newegg and build a machine to order, rather than getting some Acer/Dell/HP POS and paying more for the label on the front of the case than you do for the parts in it
06:08 LemLap I built a machine with comparable if not better specs than that for CaptainNiobe this week for $500, she already had a case but everything else in the machine is brand new
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06:08 pockitaru__ my fucking conection waht the hell
06:08 LemLap [16:07:33] <LemLap> then spend $1500 at somehwere like newegg and build a machine to order, rather than getting some Acer/Dell/HP POS and paying more for the label on the front of the case than you do for the parts in it
06:08 LemLap [16:08:09] <LemLap> I built a machine with comparable if not better specs than that for CaptainNiobe this week for $500, she already had a case but everything else in the machine is brand new
06:09 CaptainNiobe :) it's kicking ass, too... cost less and is waaaayyyy better than the machines i bought made
06:09 pockitaru__ any ways can we up grade the os and graphics our selves
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06:10 LemLap pockitaru, slim cases often can't take a decent gfx card
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06:11 LemLap pockitaru, slim cases often can't take a decent gfx card
06:11 LemLap that was the reason we built CaptainNiobe a new machine, rather than upgrading her current one
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06:11 CaptainNiobe lol... that's exactlyy how i ended up with a new machine, wanted to upgrade the graphics... lol...
06:11 * LemLap nods
06:11 pockitaru_ ok will do thanks and ill ttual later when my conection is better
06:11 * LemLap went no, buy a new one instead and end up much better off
06:12 * LemLap nods
06:12 Hackbat 00004 5417
06:12 CaptainNiobe lem, first it was minecraft, then a new machine... what're you gonna talk me into next? LOL! *hugs lemming*
06:12 LemLap heh
06:13 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, a Mac
06:13 tehdark45 :P
06:13 LemLap lol
06:13 LemLap hells no
06:13 CaptainNiobe not a hope in hell. :P
06:13 LemLap considering I worked for them for a year, and know just how bad they can be
06:13 tehdark45 were you a genius?
06:13 LemLap no
06:16 * tehdark45 sends CaptainNiobe a Mac
06:17 tehdark45 A big one
06:17 * CaptainNiobe wraps tehdark45 in givewrap and airmails him to LemLap to do with as he wishes
06:17 CaptainNiobe giftwrap*
06:18 tehdark45 O_O
06:19 * tehdark45 giftwraps CaptainNiobe and sends her to lwq1996
06:23 Hackbat oh snap
06:25 tehdark45 this are getting srs in here
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06:54 * wannabe-zz <3's the doctor, btw
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06:59 pockitaru ok how bout theas wish lists https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=19410392
06:59 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com Account Login Page
07:00 pockitaru http://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view.html/ref=lh_cart
07:00 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com Shopping Cart
07:01 pockitaru would this make a good computer?
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07:02 pockitaru_ good comp. ?
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07:05 pockitaru__ sorry bout my conetion probs
07:05 pockitaru__ text answer to 5758150456
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07:17 Experimentonomen g'mornin peepz
07:41 Chipguy morning exp
07:41 Chipguy and bye
07:48 Nazca <CaptainNiobe> lem, first it was minecraft, then a new machine... what're you gonna talk me into next? LOL! *hugs lemming* <--- I'm trying very hard to fight the automatic response of "bed"
07:49 CaptainNiobe no, that would be my fiancé's job :P
07:49 Nazca :P
07:50 Nazca I think the least inappropriate reply is "shucks :P"
07:55 CaptainNiobe *shrugs* :D
08:04 Experimentonomen ahh first breakfast in like a year
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08:23 Experimentonomen wb chief
08:24 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe is da mastah of teh chat ;)
08:25 CaptainNiobe like hell i am lol
08:25 CaptainNiobe ty, anyways :)
08:26 Experimentonomen .cookie CaptainNiobe
08:26 BotSteve Here you go, CaptainNiobe, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
08:26 CaptainNiobe .cake Experimentonomen
08:26 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you an apples and cinnamon cake!
08:26 Experimentonomen yum
08:30 Thermoelectric I wonder if we have any hot water today or if I need to go turn on the booster.
08:31 Thermoelectric Someone already has. Cool.
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08:36 CaptainNiobe hey lem :)
08:43 Experimentonomen g'day lemmington
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09:03 mashpriborintorg hiya
09:03 Experimentonomen g'day mash
09:07 mashpriborintorg back from the shop, people were fighting for toilet paper, wtf XD
09:07 Experimentonomen lol
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09:07 mashpriborintorg ok, I will shoot a vid today about russian switches and pots
09:10 Experimentonomen soviet transistors look funky
09:10 Experimentonomen almost look like the three pin resonators with internal capacitors
09:18 mashpriborintorg yeah, I dremeled one open yesterday
09:19 mashpriborintorg it was a east-german one tho, but same internal structure
09:22 Experimentonomen try to make an amplifier with some of them ;)
09:22 Experimentonomen should make for a somehar russioan sound ;)
09:23 mashpriborintorg I did actually find a russian made amplifier in a flea market
09:24 mashpriborintorg too bad I did sell it on ebay
09:24 mashpriborintorg I can't keep everything I find :p
09:24 Experimentonomen u have too mucxh crap already eh ;P
09:25 mashpriborintorg check here for russian hifi gear http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/
09:25 BotSteve Title: Âèðòóàëüíûé ìóçåé è ñïðàâî÷íèê ''Îòå÷åñòâåííàÿ Ðàäèîòåõíèêà 20 Âåêà''.
09:25 mashpriborintorg last week I did sell a home cinema speakers set at a trift store
09:25 Experimentonomen hm i cant read cryllic
09:26 mashpriborintorg the guy behind me was teeling at his wife : he must have money problems, he's selling his home cinema
09:26 mashpriborintorg lol, I did find it in the trash
09:26 mashpriborintorg no use for it, sold 50 euros
09:28 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/miOZZ <-- swedish military JUNK
09:28 BotSteve Title: oldradarstuff - Imgur
09:28 mashpriborintorg for russian sites,  I click everywhere until I find wat I want
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09:29 mashpriborintorg seems to be made from mostly US parts... just like Israeli electronics
09:31 Experimentonomen i did actually fire up one of those heatsink thingies before taking them apart
09:31 mashpriborintorg the soviet amp I found was this one: http://rw6ase.narod.ru/000/rez2/odissey001s.html
09:31 Experimentonomen i dident video it thouhg
09:31 BotSteve Title: Óñèëèòåëü ''Îäèññåé-001-ñòåðåî''.
09:32 Experimentonomen didd it work ?
09:32 tehdark45 mashpriborintorg, does the amp amplify you?
09:32 mashpriborintorg yeah, not a bad sounnd, but it did lack of some manufacturing quality... and it was old used
09:34 mashpriborintorg very usual layout, metal chassis, aluminium panel, wooden case, 2 transistors per channel
09:36 Experimentonomen and around 2x10-20 watts per channel i assuume
09:36 mashpriborintorg yeah, rather 10 than 20
09:38 mashpriborintorg when I find cheap vintage hifi, sometimes I buy it for resale, not for keeping, no room for such stuff
09:40 mashpriborintorg some guys are pretty hardcore collectors :p
09:40 Experimentonomen i build amps even though i dont nreed them :P
09:43 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMbthSlQOA<-- opened up hybrid module commonly found in cheap audio equipment
09:43 BotSteve Title: STK407-050 without cover blasting it - YouTube
09:43 mashpriborintorg but you haven't got all you walls covered with selvings filled with amps
09:44 mashpriborintorg Hmm http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/4827161930/
09:44 BotSteve Title: STK amplifier internals | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
09:44 mashpriborintorg they are more strong mecanically than they are electrically
09:45 Experimentonomen i ran one without a heatsink at disco levels for 30 minutes once before it died
09:47 Experimentonomen them hybrid modules are kinda fun, i tried hitting it with a laser pointer and on some of the components inside i got a little "whoop" from the speakers
09:48 mashpriborintorg light sensitive semiconductors..
09:48 Experimentonomen yup
09:49 Experimentonomen most likely the diode in the current source of the input stage
09:49 mashpriborintorg wtf, even girls are scrapping  now http://youtu.be/NfZHu5hxXGM
09:49 BotSteve Title: Scrapper Girl gives a tip on an easy & neat way to scrap a TV Yoke for the copper - YouTube
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09:54 Experimentonomen g'day wannabe
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10:07 Thermoelectric mashpriborintorg, She seems pretty into scrapping... I can't imagine that much copper would be worth much..
10:07 mashpriborintorg it adds on, after processing 10 or 20 tvs it starts to be worth something
10:08 Thermoelectric Yeah but then you have to dispose of the rest of it, can't just throw 20 CRT tubes into the bin.
10:09 mashpriborintorg yeah, that's why last time I did not pick up these 6 computer crt displays abandonned in the street
10:10 mashpriborintorg the ninja way is  to break them tiny tiny and put it a little at a time in the bin. Annoying and not earth friendly
10:10 Thermoelectric Same, though she doesn't seem to know a lot, with all her cutting off wires that have connectors on the end of them, and struggling to remove CPU's.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAhunpOpyno
10:10 BotSteve Title: Scrapper Girl shows you how to get gold from scrapping an old computer Scrap - YouTube
10:10 * mashpriborintorg never did that
10:11 mashpriborintorg yeah XD
10:11 * Thermoelectric has 2 old CRT's downstairs waiting for a use... That's the worst thing about scrapping for me, gotta keep everything that has some amount of use left.
10:11 Thermoelectric (the tubes, not the whole monitors)
10:13 mashpriborintorg beware of oscilloscope tubes, they are more dangerous than TV crts
10:13 Thermoelectric Implosion hazard?
10:14 mashpriborintorg yeah, I last one I did break made a huge bang and propelled parts all around
10:14 Thermoelectric Mmm, that would have been fun to clean up...
10:14 mashpriborintorg and it was not a big one
10:17 Thermoelectric Ah.
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10:29 HighMan Hi IRC o_O
10:29 HighMan Haven't been on for almost a week
10:29 HighMan Anything new going on here?
10:32 Thermoelectric Not overly.
10:32 HighMan ...
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11:31 Experimentonomen oh god *sneeze* i hope this sneezing is not allerfies :/
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12:33 Experimentonomen blubflubber
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12:57 mashpriborintorg okay.
12:57 mashpriborintorg a box filled with 30 fake mobile phones
12:58 Experimentonomen found a stereo board for just short of 6 dollars
12:58 mashpriborintorg what to do with it.
12:59 Experimentonomen bin it
13:00 Experimentonomen until the board arrives, i think im gonna board this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huyK3JeScVo
13:00 BotSteve Title: 1982 Elektor amp - YouTube
13:00 mashpriborintorg yeah, checking ebay. A grab bag of 50 kg of fake phones. 30 euros, no bidder
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13:01 Experimentonomen dont bid on it!!
13:01 mashpriborintorg nope :p
13:01 Experimentonomen 50 kilos will be killer shipping, i tell you
13:02 mashpriborintorg I want to get rid of it, not getting more, I don't like fake things, ask my gf
13:02 Experimentonomen ah ur the seller
13:03 mashpriborintorg no, but I have some and wanted to know if it's ebay-able
13:03 Experimentonomen ppl prolly dont bid cuz they know shipping will be a bitch
13:03 Experimentonomen i assume u mean fake phones as in those kids toys that beeps and plays different tunes depending on what button u press
13:04 mashpriborintorg no, fake phones for retailer display
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13:04 mashpriborintorg the shape, the weight, the taste of the real thing
13:04 Experimentonomen ah
13:04 Experimentonomen dont even bother with ebay, just throw them in the trash
13:05 mashpriborintorg I'll crack them open first, to see how much fake it is, maybe I'll find some real parts, dunnot know
13:07 mashpriborintorg I was thinking about giving them for kids.... but it's written "not a toy" and kids have real phones now btw
13:07 Experimentonomen yeh
13:07 Experimentonomen garbage bin them, nobody wants fake items
13:11 mashpriborintorg Hmmm. chinese crap screws and iron pieces inside
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13:14 LemPhone sigh, stupid phone
13:14 LemPhone fucking up royally again tonight.
13:14 LemPhone refused to connect to IRC till I yanked the battery
13:22 mashpriborintorg 3 phones cracked open, not a single real part spotted, even the flash leds are fakes :p
13:23 mashpriborintorg some nice iron weight plate tho, may be usefull
13:23 Experimentonomen grab the iron and dispose of the rest
13:25 mashpriborintorg it's what I'm doing, but I miss a tool... beer they call it
13:25 Experimentonomen im gonna build a small stereo amp with old transistors from like the 60's-70's
13:28 mashpriborintorg make some vintage looking case for it
13:30 Experimentonomen cant
13:33 mashpriborintorg why not
13:40 mashpriborintorg hey, they're some electronic thingie in this fake phone
13:40 Experimentonomen i dont have any of the required tools, nor the material
13:41 mashpriborintorg some ringer device maybe
13:41 mashpriborintorg ok, keyboard lightning and speaker
13:43 mashpriborintorg 3 leds to salvage, at least
14:05 mashpriborintorg debriefing: 2 or 3 phones had real casing parts. One had electronic interactive thing inside. All the remaining, crap.
14:07 BitViper .minecraft
14:07 BitViper .mc
14:07 * BitViper slaps the bot
14:07 BotSteve BitViper: GuardianZozo's minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: DOWN
14:07 BotSteve BitViper: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
14:07 BotSteve BitViper: PacketHumper's minecraft server: minecraft.nerderosity.com:25565. Server Status: DOWN
14:07 BotSteve BitViper: BitViper's minecraft server: minecraft.bitviper.org:25565. Server Status: DOWN
14:07 BitViper lol, slapping it worked :)
14:07 Carvagon lol
14:20 mashpriborintorg damnit. My outside thermometer, in direct sunlight, says it's 46°C
14:22 Cheezmo mashpriborintorg: get a second thermometer on the other side of the house
14:22 mashpriborintorg and increasing. Dog is on the floor, half dead. summer is here yay.
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14:27 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/iMa5y <-- sneakpeak of the "vintageamp"
14:27 BotSteve Title: Vintageamp - Imgur
14:29 mashpriborintorg parts seems too new for a vintage amp... put some dust on them :p
14:33 Experimentonomen the vintage thing is that the transistors beeing used are vintage, as in from the 60's or 70's NOS
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14:42 dbshortwave la dee dah
14:42 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon dbshortwave
14:42 dbshortwave Hi Experimentonomen
14:42 dbshortwave duct tape = mans best friend
14:43 BitViper yikes, 46c = 115f  *sweats thinking about it*
14:44 Experimentonomen yuck BitViper
14:44 BitViper not here fortunately Experimentonomen, mashpriborintorg
14:44 * BitViper thinks mashpriborintorg must be chatting from hell
14:45 Experimentonomen or the sun is just beaming right onto mashpriborintorg's outdoor thermometer sensor
14:45 * dbshortwave sighs they call that sun poisoned
14:45 dbshortwave oops two thoughs collided there
14:46 Experimentonomen :P
14:46 Experimentonomen dbshortwave: http://imgur.com/a/iMa5y
14:46 BotSteve Title: Vintageamp - Imgur
14:46 dbshortwave sony made a design like that
14:47 dbshortwave i think Onkyo followed something to that nature too
14:49 Experimentonomen its a sneak peak of a new project using all parts from the sixties-seventies
14:49 dbshortwave that your next amp tho?
14:50 dbshortwave ok i read your mind
14:50 dbshortwave lol
14:50 Experimentonomen its low power like 10-20 watts per channel into 4 ohms
14:50 Experimentonomen 2x18V rails, MJR703 and MJE803 as output devices
14:50 Experimentonomen MJE*
14:53 mashpriborintorg ok, my new vid realeased: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_DQnVnZd0
14:53 BotSteve Title: Russian switches and potentiometers - YouTube
15:06 Carvagon radio tonight?
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15:11 Experimentonomen mash, you say photo multiplier tube on the last item there, i believe thats rather a image intensifier tube
15:11 mashpriborintorg yeah... didn't find the correct word
15:12 Experimentonomen photo multiplier tubes have a output just like a vacuum tube anode
15:12 mashpriborintorg I have one, in a scintillation geiger counter
15:12 Experimentonomen oki
15:13 mashpriborintorg made in Romania or something like that :p
15:17 mashpriborintorg these ikea led lamps have a too narrow beam
15:20 mashpriborintorg at least, new cb, trucks seems to be cured
15:22 Experimentonomen strange that there havent been any updates on batty's truck
15:22 Experimentonomen that yNos did the epic file job on
15:23 mashpriborintorg yeah
15:24 mashpriborintorg And I beleive that Dan did start a series of autopsy videos with the blue car... the same blue car they parted this week
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15:25 dbshortwave sorry went out and adjusted the hz and volts of my generator
15:26 dbshortwave this meter i have makes me sooo happy lol
15:26 Experimentonomen how accurate is your genny, 50.00Hz at 240.000V ?
15:28 dbshortwave with no load... its right at 60hz + or - 5%
15:28 dbshortwave 120VAC
15:28 dbshortwave wait
15:28 dbshortwave with load
15:28 dbshortwave without load its at 120volts but the hz goes up to like 400hz lol
15:29 dbshortwave with a 500 watt resistive load (500 watt helogen work light) it drops to 60 hz 120vac
15:29 dbshortwave and its flux is about 5%
15:30 dbshortwave not a good idea to plug in sencitive equipment
15:30 dbshortwave but
15:30 dbshortwave with a good load, (aka the 500 watt lamp) it becomes stable
15:30 Experimentonomen weird Hz, must be a crappy piece of china inverter that base the Hz off the loading
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15:31 dbshortwave non inverter
15:31 Experimentonomen if its non inverter the Hz should not be able to change
15:31 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
15:31 dbshortwave its a chicago tool 2 stroke 120
15:31 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe-zz 8.62 hours ago at 2012-05-24 06:54:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:31:26 UTC
15:31 lwq1996 damnit
15:31 Experimentonomen as those gennies are ususally like a capacitor run motor driven as a generator or a bldc motor run as a generator
15:32 lwq1996 im at school with my laptop today :D
15:32 Experimentonomen Hz should be entirely engine speed based
15:32 dbshortwave yup
15:32 dbshortwave http://www.harborfreight.com/engines-generators/gas-engine-generators/800-rated-watts-900-max-watts-portable-generator-66619.html
15:32 BotSteve Title: 800 Rated Watts/900 Max Watts Portable Generator
15:32 dbshortwave thats the one
15:32 lwq1996 im one off the few people that gots the wifi code
15:32 Experimentonomen unless the speed changes alot in a noload condition
15:33 dbshortwave well its a 2 stroke lol
15:33 mashpriborintorg they had a generator on sale at the shop.... 60 euros. must be nuclear crap.
15:33 Experimentonomen as in shoots up to like 6000rpm at noload and down to like 1500 rpm at load
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15:33 dbshortwave 3600 rpm
15:34 Experimentonomen unless it puts out so much trash on noload that it totally fools the crap outta ur meter
15:34 dbshortwave an isolation transformer will cure the spikes
15:34 dbshortwave its possible
15:35 dbshortwave which i had a feeling would work
15:35 mashpriborintorg if they don't sell them and put the price at 30 euros after, I'll take one just for take apart purpose :p
15:36 lwq1996 whose got a nice proxy that will work with barracuda
15:37 mashpriborintorg btw it was almost the same thing than the harborfreight link
15:37 Experimentonomen btw them cheap chinese supersilent inverter generators are really good, the brushless alternator has so strong rotor magnets that if you short it out, the starter motor acts like if the engine is seized :P
15:39 mashpriborintorg you can turn it into an emergency stop then :p
15:40 Experimentonomen do the short at 3000rpm and the whole genny will do a barrel roll across your yard :P
15:40 Experimentonomen assuming the current surge wouldent just vaporize the wires
15:41 mashpriborintorg fun ideas...
15:41 mashpriborintorg need to try it XD
16:08 mashpriborintorg damnit, I share a storage unit with my parents
16:09 mashpriborintorg I don't know it happened but for now it is full to the door, with THAT: http://www.leblogantiquites.com/2011/07/objets-corne-expo-pop-cornes.html
16:09 BotSteve Title: Le Blogue antiquités: POP' CORNES: les objets en corne se mettent en scène
16:09 mashpriborintorg TONS OF THIS CRAP :p
16:10 mashpriborintorg the exact same things, the ones on the photos are in the storage unit right now
16:10 mashpriborintorg it is freaking ugly and fragile
16:12 mashpriborintorg it takes all the available room, I can't even reach my stuff anymore
16:14 mashpriborintorg they're not antiques, they're shit
16:23 Experimentonomen hm
16:38 Seroster http://www.blocket.se/simrishamn/Aldre_oscilloskop_40606708.htm?ca=23_8&amp;w=3 =D
16:38 BotSteve Title: Äldre oscilloskop | Skåne | Blocket
16:39 Seroster Seller doesn't know anything about scopes, so... "Yeah, that's pretty much worth nothing, I'll take it off your hands for... thirty sek. =)
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16:39 mashpriborintorg For swap: Grandmother's ugly stuff, will swap for anything electronic :p
16:39 Seroster lol
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16:51 * Experimentonomen kastar ett trasigt osloskåp på Seroster
16:51 Experimentonomen ;p
16:51 Seroster Är det ett skåp från oslo?
16:51 Seroster Är det skåp som i ful brud eller en större trästruktur avsedd för förvaring?
16:52 mashpriborintorg alien languages not allowed here :p
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16:58 Experimentonomen Seroster sucks ;p
16:58 Experimentonomen ;)
16:58 mashpriborintorg not a scoop
16:58 Experimentonomen ?
16:59 mashpriborintorg we know it since a long time
17:01 Experimentonomen hm im starting to get good at baking stuff in the oven without a timer
17:04 mashpriborintorg it's a shame how expensive they can sell ovens
17:05 mashpriborintorg it's hi tech tho: folded sheet metal and heating elements
17:05 mashpriborintorg mine was 220 euros for a not so big  table top one
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17:29 Hackbat http://imgur.com/ObDjB
17:29 BotSteve Title: So my bird was stuck in my bathroom... - Imgur
17:30 mashpriborintorg t reminds me the freaky scene in Signs movie, with the thing behind the door :p
17:31 Experimentonomen "Signs" was a real creepy movie!!
17:31 Hackbat http://imgur.com/r/funny/usij2
17:31 BotSteve Title: Oh Watermelon.. - Imgur
17:31 Hackbat :3
17:31 mashpriborintorg the leg it the cornfield :p
17:31 mashpriborintorg *in
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17:32 Hackbat huh...
17:32 Hackbat this is the only video he's ever uploaded
17:32 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0qtEwb9gE
17:32 BotSteve Title: Keyboard Cat Redux - YouTube
17:35 dbshortwave http://youtu.be/CiLVr6utMGg
17:35 BotSteve Title: The Video Game Years - 1977 (Full Length Episode) - YouTube
17:37 Experimentonomen huh? this is weird, im feeling warm and sweating and at the same time feeling cold and getting goose bumps :/
17:38 dbshortwave >.>
17:38 dbshortwave i need to finish mowing the lawn
17:39 * BitViper backs away from Experimentonomen
17:40 * mashpriborintorg updates his antivirus :p
17:41 Carvagon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwtY0CjPJh8
17:41 BotSteve Title: The King of Kong : A Fistful of Quarters ( 2007 ) - YouTube
17:44 mashpriborintorg oh god XD
17:44 Carvagon lol
17:47 * Experimentonomen supercharges dbshortwave's lawnmower
17:53 mashpriborintorg dbshortwave needs to cut the lawn, not to dig down to China, Experimentonomen, go softly with supercharger
17:55 * Experimentonomen makes the engine put out 500 horsepower all way from a 500 rpm idle and all way up to 15000 rpm full throttle
17:55 * mashpriborintorg spots a flying lawnmower in the sky, wtf
17:56 SparkyProjects There  he goes now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNWfqVWC2KI :D
17:56 BotSteve Title: Flying Lawnmower - YouTube
17:57 mashpriborintorg some guys need to get a life, really :p
17:57 Experimentonomen well if someone can put a 308 or whatever V8 on a gocart, i can soup up dbshortwave's lawnmower to 500 horse :P
18:00 dbshortwave lol wont do me any good with a bent mower blade
18:00 * Monkeh hands dbshortwave some matches
18:00 Monkeh dbshortwave: No lawn, no mowing, no worries.
18:00 dbshortwave lol
18:01 dbshortwave i got gas... i could burn the bitch down mut its really not my land to burn
18:01 Carvagon concrete is great too
18:02 mashpriborintorg carbonite, even better
18:02 dbshortwave lol more like astro turf ...
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18:03 mashpriborintorg the whole backyard covered  with a diamond hard layer. no more worries.
18:04 Carvagon lol just rhino line it
18:05 BitViper get goats
18:06 dbshortwave lol the thought has crossed my mind
18:07 BitViper free fertilizer, free mowing, and no need to buy food
18:07 BitViper and you can even milk em and/or eat em
18:10 mashpriborintorg unless you have a huge backyard, goats must be shared with neighbours, or you will end up with not a single greenish thing left on you land.
18:13 SparkyProjects Hire them out ;)
18:20 dbshortwave https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/392441_399224753455406_249469905097559_1178906_1251384043_n.jpg
18:21 Carvagon haha
18:21 dbshortwave lol
18:32 mashpriborintorg according to the stream, they finally got the big computer stuff income
18:40 dbshortwave https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/521449_443277972350038_100000035167041_1753465_373881990_n.jpg
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18:54 dbshortwave http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autobutton06.html
18:54 BotSteve Title: The Whiteboard, a somewhat paintball-related webcomic by "Doc" Nickel
18:55 mashpriborintorg too bad, such a beautifull pcb, ruined with redneck mods http://s018.radikal.ru/i525/1205/18/53bcc7b82ce2.jpg
18:56 dbshortwave ouch
18:56 dbshortwave yeah thats no good
18:57 Experimentonomen ouch poor board
18:57 Experimentonomen looks like traces and pads have been torn too
18:57 mashpriborintorg lots of specimens on it
18:59 dbshortwave i wonder if i can bend this blade back
18:59 dbshortwave just to get me by
19:00 Experimentonomen got a gas torch ? you may need to heat it to get it to bend without just springing back
19:01 dbshortwave this one was a cheap wal-mart replacement blade. i know it wasnt tempered. 2x4 and a hammer maybe or stick it in the recever of the jimmy an bend it back
19:02 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/ky2bI.jpg
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19:13 Wax Wax on
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19:18 dan9788wax G'Day
19:19 Experimentonomen g'day danwax
19:19 Experimentonomen wax on wax off
19:19 dan9788wax wax on
19:20 dan9788wax How are Ya
19:22 Experimentonomen a bit tired
19:24 dan9788wax Well I'll be on side, Later!!
19:37 Experimentonomen aight enuf lab for today *shuts off the power to the lab corner*
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19:53 mashpriborintorg going to sleep, bye
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20:24 Katemonster hello.
20:24 Sasha__ Have any of you seen the dictator?
20:24 lwq1996 nope
20:25 Sasha__ Ah well, So he goes to New York, gets his beard shaved off by someone who tried to kill him. After escaping, he manages to get a job at an eco shop, where he manages to get the boss as his girlfriend (he marries her in the end). This is done in order to get back into the hotel he stayed in originally, and get back his true identity. In the end, he continues being a dictator, despite promising to be democratic. His girlfriend g
20:25 Sasha__ pregnant. Oh, did I mention that this is the plot from 'The Dictator'? Enjoy the movie now :P
20:26 dbshortwave lol yer an ass
20:26 dbshortwave smh
20:26 lwq1996 i didnt want to see it anyways
20:27 Katemonster i kind of hate that guy.
20:27 Sasha__ ofc
20:27 dbshortwave what one
20:27 dbshortwave me?
20:27 dbshortwave i know ...
20:28 dbshortwave im just a hatable kinda guy
20:28 dbshortwave typoed that oo
20:30 lwq1996 http://www.ohmypictures.com/old-smartphone_1417.html
20:30 BotSteve Title: Old Smartphone - Oh!!! My Pictures
20:31 dbshortwave wow
20:31 dbshortwave 24.00 for a new crack shaft for that mower
20:32 lwq1996 not bad actually
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20:49 Seroster Dumpster diving should be a legitimate sport
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20:51 eg_lappy honk
20:51 Seroster ello eg
20:53 Experimentonomen g'day ElectricLaptop ;)
20:54 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell Carvagon http://godslittlestangelsinhaiti.org/child-sponsorships/golf-for-gla/
20:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Carvagon is around.
20:54 BotSteve Title: God's Littlest Angels in Haiti » Golf for GLA
20:55 BitViper Seroster : dumpsters dont usually have enough water for diving
20:56 Experimentonomen eg_lappy, found a new "job" ?
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20:56 eg_lappy not really new
20:56 eg_lappy have been on this one for almost a month
20:56 Experimentonomen oki
20:58 Carvagon brb.  i see ur message wannabe1987.  will check it out in a sec
20:58 BotSteve carvagon: I have the following messages for you:
20:58 BotSteve At 20:54Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell carvagon http://godslittlestangelsinhaiti.org/child-sponsorships/golf-for-gla/
20:58 wannabe1987 ok
21:00 Experimentonomen eg_lappy, i started a new project today: http://i.imgur.com/FJxAx.jpg
21:00 eg_lappy oh nice :P
21:00 Experimentonomen little 2x15W amp using tyransistors from the 60's-70's
21:01 eg_lappy hehe neat :P
21:02 eg_lappy get some old TO-3 germanium ones ;P
21:02 Experimentonomen and i will be building another chipamp, this time using two TDA7293
21:02 Experimentonomen them germanium ones are more or less unobtanium
21:03 Experimentonomen only way to find them is to find an old amp on ebay
21:03 eg_lappy or from some friend that got a lot of old electronics :P
21:04 Experimentonomen i dont think the germanium amplifiers ever made it outside of the united states
21:04 Experimentonomen only seem them on the usa ebay
21:04 Experimentonomen and they are usually too big and heavy to be worth shipping
21:05 eg_lappy well, germanium transistors never seem to have taken off really...
21:05 eg_lappy poor performance and not very cheap..
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21:06 Experimentonomen and the way they worked made the unsuitable for audio
21:07 Experimentonomen nowdays germanium transistors are popular in guitar effects though, such as fuzz pedals
21:07 Experimentonomen anyways my output transistors are MJE703 and MJE803
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21:25 Sasha_ Does anyone have the  ipc certification soldering pdf?
21:26 * egrsteve is hungry
21:27 Cprossu hey egrsteve
21:27 Experimentonomen .cookie egrsteve
21:27 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
21:27 Cprossu I am too (lol)
21:27 Experimentonomen .cookie Cprossu
21:27 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
21:27 egrsteve food is being irradiated
21:27 Cprossu apparently
21:27 Cprossu you have any plans to drop by today egrsteve?
21:27 BitViper hey its a Cprossu, everyone run
21:27 egrsteve possibly, after 8 or 9
21:27 egrsteve when I am out of work
21:28 Cprossu sounds like a plan. I don't want to look at punchdowns for the moment
21:28 Seroster SparkyProjects,  ye there?
21:28 BitViper Cprossu : one or two too many punchdowns ?
21:28 egrsteve how is the camera punchdown going?
21:28 Cprossu also I re-found master control feeds 2 and 3
21:28 Seroster Got a question... How big of a electric fence supply would be appropriate for a cat? xD
21:28 Cprossu 17 cameras total right now @ egrsteve
21:28 Cprossu plus some unidentified wiring
21:29 egrsteve figures
21:29 Seroster I mean, a fence made to keep bulls on the right side of the fence might make a few fried cats xD
21:29 BitViper Cprossu : one of those wires is the feed to the lobby sign
21:29 SparkyProjects I would say no more than 1000, but at very low (mA) current
21:29 Cprossu BitViper: I thought we had that one sorted out (and it's a serial feed right?)
21:29 Cprossu (white wire iirc)
21:30 SparkyProjects Once the cat has learned that a fence hurts, you should be able to turn it off but leave fence in place
21:30 BitViper yes its a serial feed but i think its an rj45 plug, not sure color, i thought it was blue, but could be wrong
21:30 Seroster SparkyProjects, 1000 what units?
21:30 SparkyProjects volts
21:30 Seroster '-'
21:30 Seroster Right
21:30 BitViper look at the back of the sign for color check
21:30 Cprossu fair enough BitViper
21:30 Seroster Here fence PSUs come in 8-12kV at X joules
21:30 Cprossu it's not properly hooked up for the moment heh
21:31 SparkyProjects As i said, very low current, you don't want to fry the cat
21:31 BitViper yeah i saw that the sign had defaulted on one of the last blogs
21:31 egrsteve just get an nst
21:32 Experimentonomen i'd say a few AA cells is enuf for a cat to feel
21:33 SparkyProjects Seroster, take a look at my 'multi-bobbin' transformer vid, you could build a simple battery powered pulser fed through something like that
21:33 SparkyProjects or power from a wall wart
21:34 Seroster hm
21:34 Seroster They are from like 0.5J to 5.5J
21:35 Seroster Joules is the raw energy, right? As in, Volts*amps?
21:37 Seroster W=J/S - how many seconds does an electric fance discharge last?
21:37 Seroster Feels like 1/10 second.
21:38 Seroster .c 0.3/0.1
21:38 BotSteve 3
21:38 Seroster Three watts.
21:38 Thermoelectric However long it takes for you to discharge the cap. :P
21:38 Seroster .c 3/5000
21:38 BotSteve 0.0006
21:38 Seroster That is 0.0006amps?
21:38 Seroster I.E .6ma?
21:38 Thermoelectric Looks about right.
21:39 Thermoelectric I think they have a bit more of a kick to them than 0.6mA.
21:39 Seroster Sounds odd yes
21:40 Seroster SparkyProjects, master! Spread your wizdom upon us! =P
21:40 SparkyProjects .0006 amps should be safe for a cat
21:42 Seroster But are my calculations reasonable?
21:44 SparkyProjects They look ok to me
21:44 Seroster How about the discharge time?
21:45 SparkyProjects from what i remember, carrle fences that i repaired were either 5 or 10k
21:45 Seroster Yeah
21:45 Seroster But is a tenth of a second a reasonable discharge time?
21:46 SparkyProjects probably
21:46 SparkyProjects All i know is that fences are usually a short pulse through a transformer, so rise and fall time of the trans is a factor
21:46 Seroster The pulse “on” time is typically about 0.3
21:46 Seroster milliseconds (3/10,000 of a second)
21:47 Seroster http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/resmgmt/publist/300Series/307310-1.pdf
21:47 Seroster W O W
21:47 Seroster .c 3/10000
21:47 BotSteve 0.0003
21:48 Seroster .c 0.3/0.0003
21:48 BotSteve 1000
21:48 Seroster 1000watts
21:48 Seroster Divide by 1kv and you get an amp =O
21:48 SparkyProjects bottom of this page
21:48 SparkyProjects http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Livestock-Electric-fencing/products/42/?_$ja=kw:%2belectric%20%2bfence|cgn:Electric+Fencing|cgid:2087833868|tsid:2126|cn:Hyperdrug+-+Fencing|cid:78977108|lid:18559076530|mt:Broad|nw:search|crid:9463856828&gclid=CKa2st3ymbACFUxlfAodO2VCaw
21:48 SparkyProjects notice the specs
21:48 BotSteve Title: Electric Fencing - Energisers - Fencing Tape - Poly Rope - Electric Fence Posts - Fencers
21:51 Thermoelectric 7kv, 0.15 joule...
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21:51 Seroster yeah
21:55 SparkyProjects That one seems to be for horses
21:55 SparkyProjects that PDF you posted seems to back up the use of no more than 1000V, if you are worried you will supply too much current, ad a high value resistor in series with the fence, that will also protect from overcurrent if the fence gets a short (long grass etc)
21:56 SparkyProjects Even static build up from stroking a cat will get a reaction, if that static is on its nose it will learn not to go near
21:57 BitViper id guess one survived bite from a horse/cow fence would cure a cat of any curiosity
21:58 Carvagon lol
21:59 BitViper we had horses when i was a kid that learned to roll under the fence
22:04 * SparkyProjects has seen a greyhound break the speed record after it touched a fence :D
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22:05 Yrouel hi
22:05 SparkyProjects hi
22:07 Seroster SparkyProjects, I found a few YT vids about cat learning the hard way
22:07 Seroster If they can take a horse fence and still be able to run afterwards... Yeah
22:07 Seroster However, I am concerned about the legal issues. But that is not an area of expertice for anyone in here.
22:07 Seroster *It's not my fence, got a friend asking
22:08 SparkyProjects That's simple, if you fry the cat, you get done :P
22:09 Seroster The laws are pretty strict here
22:09 Seroster You can't have a cat on a leash unless it's a human holding the leash
22:09 Seroster If you tie the leach to a tree in your garden you are comitting a crime =P
22:10 SparkyProjects I heard of one guy who was fed up with cats on his garden he covered it in wires and plugged directly into 240v mains
22:10 SparkyProjects No more problem with the cat, but he went to court (maybe jail) for it
22:10 Seroster Lol
22:10 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDgkwn7lnc
22:10 BotSteve Title: Stunning Cats with Electric Fence - YouTube
22:11 SparkyProjects As i said, if you want to avoid overcurrent, add some resistors
22:16 Yrouel Seroster that law is specific for cats or any other animal?
22:16 Yrouel domestic at least
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22:17 Phoenix92471 test
22:19 dan9788wax I'm Back
22:21 Phoenix92471 just checking it out via   firefox 12 and live streaming is just black flash square - aka no video feed
22:22 Hackbat :o
22:22 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6W5de0hQCE&amp;feature=related
22:22 BotSteve Title: Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra - Tetris - YouTube
22:23 Phoenix92471 ohh ok .........
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22:33 Seroster Yrouel, that law is specific for cats, you can have dogs on a leash
22:33 Yrouel why such law?
22:34 Seroster Because cats have a habit of getting entangled,
22:34 Yrouel oh I see
22:34 Seroster And it's concidered to be risky since the cat can't get away and hide
22:35 Seroster Hey, it's a law I have broken myself more than once, it's not like anyone would be punished for it, the law is for people who tie up their cat in the backyard and let it be there for fifteen hours without food or water.
22:35 exor674 lol, I wonder what freaked my UPS out
22:36 exor674 nothing NOT on it turned off but my UPS decided "I no like the power you are giving me"
22:43 Yrouel Seroster I was asking because I was curious if maybe such law derived from an escalation of crimes related to abused cats
22:43 Yrouel unfortunately I know some bad uses for cats that some horrible people do
22:44 Yrouel like lit them on fire and then let them run in a field to spread the fire
22:44 Yrouel it's awful
22:46 Seroster Perhaps, Yrouel
22:46 Seroster I don't know
22:54 Experimentonomen aight bedtime, nite peepz
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23:01 eadthem i need aluminum bar  say 1/16 inch thick   1 and 2 inch wide
23:01 eadthem would lowes carry something like that
23:05 eadthem i need 62 strips about 20 inches long
23:08 tgg|wannabe-afk on a dvd player, are the caps supposed to be a bit "poofy" ?
23:09 Monkeh|Lap tgg|wannabe-afk: Bulging?
23:09 tgg|wannabe-afk just one....
23:09 Monkeh|Lap No.
23:09 tgg|wannabe-afk its not flat on top
23:10 Monkeh|Lap They're not meant to be bulging ever, the top should be completely flat.
23:10 tgg|wannabe-afk thats what i thought.
23:10 Monkeh|Lap Bulging means it's been generating hydrogen, which means the electrolyte is breaking down
23:10 Monkeh|Lap By the time it shows any sign of bulging it's already gone way, way outside its specs.
23:11 tgg|wannabe-afk it was free...
23:11 Monkeh|Lap Does it work?
23:11 tgg|wannabe-afk no
23:11 tgg|wannabe-afk i asked for broken electronics
23:11 Monkeh|Lap Ah.
23:11 Monkeh|Lap Changing the cap may fix it, but it may have blown other things.
23:13 * Monkeh|Lap is sat here picking peas out of his food
23:13 Monkeh|Lap Peas are not food.
23:13 * tgg|wannabe-afk likes peas, but don't throw them at her
23:13 Monkeh|Lap I can't throw quite that far
23:14 tgg|wannabe-afk kk
23:14 BitViper electricguy and experimentonomen would like this ... http://www.omnitrack.com/
23:14 BotSteve Title: DGi Engineering Consultants, LLC
23:16 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: Does it involve ridiculously powerful amplifiers with no useful function, or a hatred of an operating system based on no real experience or knowledge?
23:16 Monkeh|Lap ;)
23:16 BitViper its a 4kw self contained mobile sound system =P
23:17 Monkeh|Lap Yep, they'll love it
23:18 Carvagon thats kind of impressive i guess
23:19 BitViper i sort of know the guy who owns the company
23:19 egrsteve 4000 watts, ha childs play
23:20 egrsteve a trailer that size could easily house 20000+
23:20 egrsteve brb time to go play with a circuit mill
23:20 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Well, those two are easily amused
23:20 egrsteve good point
23:21 * BitViper knows nothing about sound systems beyond plugging them in
23:21 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: And easily annoyed.
23:21 BitViper and listening them
23:21 egrsteve in the pro sound world 4000 watts is very small
23:21 BitViper +to
23:21 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Just mention you use Linux on a daily basis and they'll suddenly get really annoyed because, secretly, they hate that they can't figure it out. ;)
23:21 Carvagon my car had 3 kw
23:22 Carvagon so its really not that big lol
23:22 * egrsteve uses unix
23:22 Carvagon its still cool though
23:22 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: :)
23:22 * BitViper is hungry but too hot and lazy to go figure out what to make
23:22 tgg|wannabe lol
23:22 egrsteve technicly bsd
23:22 egrsteve derived
23:22 egrsteve brb
23:22 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Tell me it's not a Mac.
23:23 egrsteve it might be, but currently I'm ussing to terminal to ssh into a freebsd server running irssi if that make you feel any better
23:23 Monkeh|Lap It's not a Mac, so yes.
23:23 Monkeh|Lap :)
23:24 Yrouel lol
23:24 egrsteve but one layer could be a mac
23:24 Monkeh|Lap In which case you would be lost to me forever more.
23:24 Monkeh|Lap Do you want that, Steve? DO YOU?!
23:24 Monkeh|Lap :P
23:24 egrsteve fair enough
23:24 egrsteve ok, time to go play with circuit cam and gerber files
23:25 Monkeh|Lap (I don't honestly give a shit but I like to rile people up)
23:25 Yrouel egrsteve I saw the last cb the rack is turning nice finally :D
23:25 Monkeh|Lap (next up, vim vs emacs)
23:25 egrsteve that it is (to both of you)
23:26 egrsteve brb(ish)
23:33 Sgt_Lemming mornink all
23:33 Carvagon morning
23:34 HighMan Hi all
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