Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-05-25

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00:02 Carvagon radio tonight?
00:04 tgg|wannabe no
00:05 Carvagon ok
00:05 lwq1996 hhr?
00:06 tgg|wannabe no
00:06 tgg|wannabe no hhr tonight
00:06 tgg|wannabe bill is feeling ill
00:06 lwq1996 awe :(
00:06 tgg|wannabe and we're not taking over
00:06 lwq1996 hijacking? :P
00:06 lwq1996 awe
00:06 tgg|wannabe my computer is about to die...so i'm going to shut it down now
00:06 Cprossu boo
00:06 lwq1996 tgg|wannabe: http://www.ohmypictures.com/world-moving-on_1424.html
00:06 BotSteve Title: World moving on - Oh!!! My Pictures
00:07 * Cprossu yells at tgg|wannabe dying computer and gets the DEFIB out
00:07 Cprossu LIVE!!!!!
00:07 lwq1996 lol
00:07 lwq1996 dont you guys have power cords?
00:07 Carvagon lol
00:08 Cprossu you guys think we have everything (makes a bad face towards lwq1996)
00:09 SparkyProjects Cprossu, you have Gemini
00:09 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: World's biggest defibrilator!
00:10 SparkyProjects Kill or cure :D
00:11 Cprossu SparkyProjects if it's a thinkpad it will be fine
00:11 Cprossu at least until it's thrown forcefully to the ground
00:11 Phiraday Does any one in here mess with heavy industrial equipment?
00:11 Cprossu does anyone in here not mess with heavy industrial equipment would be a better question ;)
00:11 Carvagon lol me
00:11 Phiraday lol
00:12 SparkyProjects What's the question ?
00:12 Phiraday I have a gizmo that my uncle got when he left a local factory. I was hoping some one could teach me a little about it.
00:13 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I could almost hear the 'WTF....' in your brain at the forklift festivities the other day. :P
00:13 SparkyProjects Make, model etc
00:13 Cprossu Does it have a brand name, model, use, etc?
00:13 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap, you have no clue :P
00:13 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. As a trained forklift driver, boy do I. :P
00:13 Phiraday it is a keyence model TH-107
00:14 Monkeh|Lap Phiraday: It's.. a metal detector?
00:15 Phiraday ... seriously?
00:15 Monkeh|Lap Okay, 'metal passage confirmation sensor'
00:15 Phiraday huh
00:15 Cprossu part of a PLC system none-the-less
00:15 Cprossu aka relay logic
00:16 SparkyProjects the pdf http://www.hoskin.qc.ca/uploadpdf/Instrumentation/Keyence/hoskin_ta40b4d5a2a6c16.pdf
00:16 SparkyProjects May cover several models (looking now)
00:16 Cprossu the 107 is the head, but it's useless without the amplifier?
00:17 Cprossu the TA-340 is the amplifier if you have the other part Phiraday
00:17 Monkeh|Lap That could actually be really useful
00:17 Cprossu and yours has a 70mm detection area
00:18 Phiraday hmm... i think I don't.... in other words, it is nothing I will ever want to mess with... Welp! another thing for the Geek group donations!
00:18 Cprossu yay!
00:18 Cprossu I know how the marble track is going to reset now!
00:18 Phiraday X3
00:19 Cprossu (though it'll get confused when someone dumps a glass marble in =P )
00:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Oh yeah, I thought of a simple and yet enlightening demonstration to set up some time :P
00:19 Phiraday i already have three Current transformers in the box. So this should help some one.
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00:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Really strong magnet plus sheets of, say, alu, copper, other metals and alloys. And a copper pipe to finish off. ;)
00:20 Cprossu Monkeh: two foil wrapped wooden hands attached to a fence transformer that says "Experience the touch of god"?
00:20 Monkeh|Lap The $10 demonstration which schools don't bother with.
00:20 Cprossu damn Monkeh|Lap you were quicker than I was
00:20 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Someone's been watching Mythbusters lately. ;)
00:20 Phiraday XD
00:20 Carvagon haha hide the fence transformer
00:20 Phiraday Do you feel touched by God?
00:20 Cprossu rofl.
00:20 Monkeh|Lap That was a really dirty trick to play, actually
00:20 Phiraday I remember the ark they made.
00:20 Cprossu I wouldn't even hide the transformer
00:21 Cprossu just put a "HELLO" nametag on it
00:21 Cprossu GOD
00:21 Carvagon haha just put a note on it that says "not a transformer"
00:21 Cprossu no one ever said god wouldn't take the form of an electric current transformer!
00:22 Monkeh|Lap Just don't try that on me or you're liable to end up leaving a facial impression on the transformer :P
00:22 Phiraday hey! that is my line!
00:22 Monkeh|Lap Hmm.
00:22 Monkeh|Lap On the other hand, I know who to try it on.
00:22 Monkeh|Lap Reckon we can hide the wire running up into Boden's office chair?
00:22 Cprossu hey, if you're dumb enough to have filled out the liability forms before 'meeting god'
00:23 Cprossu it ain't my fault
00:23 Cprossu he'd probably like that Monkeh|Lap.
00:23 Monkeh|Lap Well, I don't believe in God, therefore I deny the existance of the transformer.
00:23 Monkeh|Lap :P
00:23 Phiraday XD
00:23 Cprossu good luck with that one Monkeh|Lap.
00:23 * Cprossu watches
00:23 Monkeh|Lap heh
00:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, I think that might have to be done to Boden some time.
00:24 Monkeh|Lap Hell, we could just go for the door handle.
00:24 Cprossu you leave WE out of this
00:24 Monkeh|Lap WE?
00:25 Carvagon set it up some night while a Zomb is goin on and scare the crap outta people.  randomly move it around
00:25 Monkeh|Lap I'm not even there, so.. :P
00:25 Cprossu if I did anything to him it would be completely harmless, not get in his way of doing work, and would end with a funny comment. I just don't like ruining anyone's day.
00:26 Cprossu high voltage, isn't something that's funny to screw around with.
00:26 Monkeh|Lap Well, if I went for the door handle it wouldn't be too powerful
00:26 Cprossu except under strict non-shocking-you conditions
00:26 Monkeh|Lap Just something which annoys the hell out of you :P
00:26 Phiraday I am staying out of that.
00:26 Monkeh|Lap It'd be amusing to rig up a door so the handle gives you a tingle every time you touch it.
00:26 Monkeh|Lap (in a totally safe manner)
00:26 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: you can do the vandegraff + door knob but I am staying away from you and your crazy ideas
00:27 Carvagon lol
00:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: As if I'd even have time :P
00:27 Monkeh|Lap I'd be spending all day cleaning up that computer lab of yours.
00:27 Cprossu you're evil. you'll make time :P
00:27 Monkeh|Lap Well, I _did_ make time to outlaw the letter z last night
00:27 Phiraday that's the spirit.
00:27 Monkeh|Lap That was amusing.
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00:37 50UAA4NEU Uh.. huh. So that server just vanished off the face of the earth.
00:37 50UAA4NEU Come on, Freenode, work.
00:37 50UAA4NEU Uh, just me, or have services gone dark?
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00:39 Cprossu honestly I am not doing the comp lab for now
00:40 eadthem ok we just lost 50% of the network
00:40 eadthem #electronics had 400  now at 200
00:40 CaptainNiobe yeah, and monks ison the other one :P
00:40 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, something big just went wrong.
00:40 Monkeh|Lap CaptainNiobe: I'm on BOTH!
00:40 eadthem thats a odd netsplit   ussualy its only 1 node  not broken in half
00:40 CaptainNiobe you are? how the hell?
00:41 Monkeh|Lap CaptainNiobe: Multiple clients. One's connected to EU servers (this one) and the other is on US servers.
00:41 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! that works! :D
00:41 Monkeh|Lap Seems like something epic has gone wrong with the intertubes
00:41 CaptainNiobe what are they saying on the other server? (never thought i'd ask that one :P )
00:41 Monkeh|Lap 'must be like splitting a brain.'
00:42 CaptainNiobe LMFAO!!!
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00:42 CaptainNiobe we must have all the smart people then :P
00:42 Monkeh|Lap CaptainNiobe: You say that, but we have yNos.. :P
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00:43 CaptainNiobe yNos: is here :P
00:43 Monkeh|Lap Exactly! :P
00:43 Monkeh|Lap (hey yNos)
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00:44 Sgt_Lemming especially in a channel with hundreds of people
00:44 CaptainNiobe there we go
00:44 _Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, but this split is.. weird.
00:44 CaptainNiobe we are back
00:44 _Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It seemed to basically cut US off from EU
00:44 Monkeh|Lap Hey hey
00:44 Monkeh|Lap I still blame Cprossu
00:44 Sgt_Lemming the server we are on is probably the one that split by the looks of it
00:44 CaptainNiobe hey monkeh... twice... :D
00:44 Carvagon lol no idea whats goin on
00:44 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, it.. wasn't one server.
00:45 Guest18666 Sgt_Lemming: I tried FIVE EU servers. None were functional.
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00:45 CaptainNiobe lemming, you and i must be using different servers... how odd, we only live a few km apart...
00:46 Guest18666 CaptainNiobe: It's DNS round-robin within area
00:46 * CaptainNiobe is lost
00:46 Guest18666 CaptainNiobe: You look up, say, chat.eu.freenode.net
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00:46 Guest18666 CaptainNiobe: It has something like five or six addresses.
00:46 Phiraday new question! Would Geek Group like to be the proud owners of a lightly( not) used GE Franuc Series one Junior?
00:46 Guest18666 DNS picks via round-robin which to use
00:46 CaptainNiobe ohhhh... ok...
00:46 Guest18666 Simple load balancing
00:47 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, you need to change your nick
00:47 Guest18666 Sgt_Lemming: I can't.
00:47 CaptainNiobe ghost it?
00:47 Guest18666 It's not on.
00:47 Sgt_Lemming fun
00:47 Guest18666 They're cleaning up after the netsplit.
00:48 Monkeh_ That'll do
00:48 CaptainNiobe i only knew about it because monks told me (our main communication is still through irc)
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00:51 Sgt_Lemming oooh, SGI Octane
00:51 * Sgt_Lemming grins
00:52 Monkeh_ If only I could get some of those racks here.
00:52 Sgt_Lemming eh, I want a half height rack
00:52 Monkeh_ Sgt_Lemming: I can make them half height..
00:52 Sgt_Lemming I really don't need 42u in the corner of my room
00:52 Sgt_Lemming a proper one Monkeh, not a bodge job :-P
00:52 Monkeh_ Bodge job? Why I never..
00:53 Monkeh_ :P
00:53 Monkeh_ Woo, Lidl have a suction vice next week
00:59 Monkeh_ Cprossu: So if you're not working on the computer lab, what are you up to?
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01:04 Leepod I got a spider as a pet
01:04 Phiraday Spiderpet
01:05 Leepod Lol
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01:06 Carvagon does anybody need something drawn in 3d?  lol i am REALLY bored
01:08 Phiraday Carvagon: just as a challange or what?
01:08 Carvagon lol im just bored in general.  challenge or something useful lol ill give it a shot
01:09 Carvagon ive gotta leanr 3d but have nothing to try in 3d lol
01:09 Carvagon *learn
01:09 eadthem jimmyjons needs to learn consistancy
01:10 eadthem last time i got a sandwitch with several slices of meat and cheese  leave bread in     it was good
01:10 Phiraday hmmm... Eschers Staircase count?
01:10 eadthem this time i had 2 slices of meat  2 slices of cheese  and 1LB of lettus
01:10 eadthem and i think they used a steamroller on the bread first
01:10 eadthem could not tell if it was LBI or not
01:11 eadthem i mean 1/2 this sandwitch by volume was lettus
01:11 BitViper health food ? LOL
01:11 BitViper Carvagon : what 3d software you using ?
01:11 BitViper or trying to use
01:13 eadthem if i could find genoa salami and capicola  and keep them around long enough to use up ,  i would never order from them agan
01:14 Carvagon I am using Revit, AutoCAD and 3D Studio.  Ive messed with Blender and Sketchup a little
01:16 Carvagon like right now, im tryin to draw up my idea for a water version a Ruben's tube
01:16 BitViper blender is nice for what it will do, but the UI ... O_o
01:17 BitViper I love sketchup, its not autocad/etc but
01:17 Carvagon yeah its rough lol i will only use it if i have to
01:17 BitViper Carvagon : i have a full model of the lab (outside) done in sketchup
01:17 Phiraday Carvagon: Will you try Eschers staircase?
01:17 Carvagon sketchup to me is good for quick layout ideas.
01:18 BitViper it'll do detail too
01:18 Carvagon yeah it will but for what i do, layout is as much as i can get out of it
01:18 BitViper i also love pov-ray, but its a whole different animal
01:18 Carvagon it is quite handy though with all the models people have made
01:18 BitViper meh, screw the premade stuff, i make my own
01:19 Monkeh_ 3DS is easy
01:19 BitViper even with things like eagle-cad i more often make my own than what they have
01:19 Carvagon in everything else but sketchup ill make my own.  lol i kind of have to
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01:20 Carvagon now as far as the staircase it wouldnt be that hard at all.
01:20 Carvagon its all hinges on the view
01:20 wannabe1987 lwq1996: yes, we have power cords, and i have one with me in my backpack at all times, i was also getting ready to go to the grocery store and buy yummy produce, so i left....
01:20 Carvagon lol
01:21 Phiraday Carvagon: Not the tiny one
01:21 BitViper *SNEEZE*
01:21 BitViper *sniff*
01:21 BitViper *S*N*E*E*Z*E*
01:21 * BitViper vaporizes
01:22 Phiraday god bless you
01:22 * wannabe1987 gives BitViper allergy meds
01:22 * Yrouel night
01:22 wannabe1987 night
01:22 Phiraday http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Escher%27s_Relativity.jpg
01:22 BotSteve Title: File:Escher's Relativity.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:23 wannabe1987 my computer bite sucks...i.ts in the worst.spot.ever....the web between thumb and first finger
01:23 Carvagon yeah that wouldnt be hard at all.
01:23 Carvagon nothing really trick about it.  its all at right angles
01:24 Monkeh_ wannabe1987: Computer bite?
01:24 BitViper wannabe1987 : its not allergies, its dry air
01:25 BitViper Carvagon : modeling an existing object is all about getting the measurements, regardless of the software
01:25 Carvagon yep agreed
01:25 BitViper ask wannabe1987, she helped me get the measurements so i could build the lab model
01:29 Carvagon BitViper: u have a link to ur model?
01:30 BitViper yeah but it'd be on my servers which were taken down tuesday
01:31 BitViper so no way to share em until I can find a place to get my servers set up again
01:31 Carvagon that sucks
01:31 BitViper yep, i dont even have email, any email, since it was all thru my own servers
01:33 Carvagon ouch.  that blows
01:33 Carvagon sorry to hear that
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Yay!
01:35 Carvagon lol
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01:37 * KB3NZQ is not gonna be able to sleep tonight
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01:41 lwq1996 HAIL
01:42 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe-afk
01:42 Phiraday sNOw
01:43 wannabe-afk what
01:44 wannabe1987 i'm busy going back from bedroom (where computer is) to kitchen making supper
01:44 lwq1996 sorry
01:45 lwq1996 didnt know you would get pissed
01:45 wannabe1987 not pissed.  stressed, emotional, and hungry
01:45 lwq1996 i take everything people say in a pissed tone
01:45 Damianz_ mmm hungry
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01:46 BitViper a woman who is stressed, emotional, and hungry is WORSE than a woman who is pissed !
01:47 * Damianz thinks lwq1996 should be less pissed
01:47 Phiraday ouch. that kind of talk will get your save cards microwaved. X3
01:47 lwq1996 never going to happen Damianz
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01:48 lwq1996 hi jess
01:48 KawaiiJess Oye
01:48 wannabe1987 hi jess!
01:49 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: So don't add pissed to the list! ;)
01:49 Carvagon haha
01:50 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: And damnit, you've just reminded me I've been 'invited' to a barbecue this weekend by my sister..
01:50 BitViper Monkeh : muahahahaha
01:50 Monkeh|Lap The absolute last place I want to spend an evening.
01:50 BitViper be glad i reminded you, i hate to think what would happen if you missed it and pissed her off :)
01:51 Monkeh|Lap Heheh, yeah
01:51 Monkeh|Lap If I don't go I won't hear the end of it for ages.
01:51 Phiraday Wwhy so Monkeh?
01:51 Monkeh|Lap Phiraday: I thought it was fairly implied, but my sister and I do not get along.
01:51 Monkeh|Lap However, she's one of these people who still thinks as a family there must be interaction and 'normality'.
01:52 Monkeh|Lap So I can't escape it
01:52 BitViper ack ! normality ? ugh, and i was gonna ask if she was single
01:52 Phiraday ouch
01:52 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: No, her boyfriend is twice her age, recently unemployed, still getting divorced, and they're living in his parents' house.
01:52 KawaiiJess Hi wannabe1987
01:53 BitViper *facedesk* *facedesk*
01:53 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: Couldn't make it up if I tried.
01:53 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: Did I mention she owns seven horses?
01:53 BitViper Monkeh : sounds about par for the course these days
01:53 BitViper hrm, and how old is she, maybe i can distract her from this other guy
01:53 BitViper ohhhh, and i love horses
01:53 Monkeh|Lap Trust me, you can't.
01:54 BitViper well at least i have my own place, and im not getting divorced :), though i may well be twice her age :/
01:54 Monkeh|Lap Go on, how old are you
01:54 BitViper 41
01:55 Monkeh|Lap On par.
01:55 BitViper im the old fart around here
01:55 Monkeh|Lap No, that's SparkyProjects
01:55 BitViper well, except for him
01:55 SparkyProjects :D
01:55 Monkeh|Lap Go back to sleep, grandad. :P
01:55 BitViper hahaha
01:55 Carvagon ok i dont feel bad now lol
01:56 BitViper dont worry Monkeh, he cant hear us anyway LOL
01:56 Monkeh|Lap BitViper: I dunno, he's constantly complaining about that dinging I make. :P
01:56 BitViper hahahahaha
01:56 SparkyProjects At least you are not insulting me by saying 'granddad' :)
01:56 BitViper SparkyProjects : do i dare respond to that ? :)
01:57 SparkyProjects up to you
01:57 BitViper LOL .... "I wouldnt want to insult my real granddad" .... *runs for cover*
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01:58 Monkeh|Lap Mine are long past caring :P
01:58 BitViper mine too actually
01:59 BitViper my one grandpa would likely have LOVED this place, tgg would definitely be his sort of thing
02:00 BitViper he passed just as I was getting into computers and electronics 30 years ago
02:00 BitViper he missed all the fun
02:02 Monkeh|Lap Never knew mine, but my dad would've loved it
02:03 Monkeh|Lap And/or had a stroke at some of the forklift antics..
02:03 BitViper my dad would have too, but not sure if he had the capacity for it, he was great at dismantling things though
02:04 BitViper btw SparkyProjects : no offense was meant, we like you
02:04 BitViper but im pretty sure you know that
02:04 Monkeh|Lap I'm pretty sure he's used to this sort of humour. ;)
02:04 BitViper me to, else i wouldnt have said such
02:04 SparkyProjects No offense taken
02:04 SparkyProjects I'm old enough that i've heard all the abuse, i just shug it off
02:04 SparkyProjects *shrug
02:05 BitViper SparkyProjects : thats about the only way to handle such stuff, wether meant in fun or not
02:05 lwq1996 SparkyProjects: how many times you get bit by a tesla coil?
02:05 SparkyProjects besides, i've 'met' seroster :D
02:05 BitViper and did the tesla survive ?
02:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: My condolences.
02:05 BitViper i feel sorry for you LOL
02:06 Monkeh|Lap About the only time anyone's ever annoyed me with various jokes is when one of my instructors took to calling me John. That actually gets kinda annoying.
02:06 SparkyProjects A few times, but mine are only small in comparison, one of my coils i can hold my hand close to it
02:06 SparkyProjects though i've been bitten by 240 several times
02:07 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, 240's not much fun.
02:07 BitViper ugh, 120 is bad enough, though tolerable
02:07 lwq1996 lol thats what you get for being in the uk, i think your in the uk right?
02:07 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I've discovered there's one place in my house I can hold onto ground in one hand and line in the other with nothing happening. :)
02:08 SparkyProjects 120 is what we consider as a 'safe' voltage for construction sites (well 110 actually)
02:08 Monkeh|Lap 110 centre-tapped that is.
02:08 Monkeh|Lap 55V to earth.
02:08 Monkeh|Lap (when it's not floating)
02:08 SparkyProjects it's still  110 between conductors
02:08 Monkeh|Lap True, but one conductor to earth is the most common fault
02:09 SparkyProjects I've worked on live 240v, working on 110 live wouldn't be a problem
02:09 Monkeh|Lap Even 240V isn't a problem live, it's all down to what access you've got and what loads are present
02:10 Monkeh|Lap I don't like doing it, but I usually deal with light switches live, it's easier (and safer, frankly) than getting to the CU!
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02:10 SparkyProjects We were actually taught the safest sequence for changing a ring socket while live in college, but were warned that bosses may not like you doing it
02:11 LemPhone sigh, stupid phone :-(
02:11 Monkeh|Lap I.. don't think I'd ever do a ring live.
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Too many places to go wrong and the possibility of a load you're not aware of
02:12 SparkyProjects They are easy, remove earth (that ensures you don't short to live with the screwdriver), then neutral (move it out of the way), get new socket ready, then swap the live, re-assemble in reverse order
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Again, I suppose it depends on access.
02:13 SparkyProjects if you have to touch live, be sure that's the ONLY thing you touch
02:13 Monkeh|Lap All the original sockets in this place are _far_ too tight to try that
02:13 SparkyProjects As long as the contractors that installed it weren't stingy with the length of the tails
02:13 Monkeh|Lap They had to be. They're all 25mm boxes.
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02:14 SparkyProjects Not if you know how to lay the wires in
02:14 SparkyProjects a sort of coil
02:15 Monkeh|Lap Can I get you to come down here and have a crack at that with my hallway socket, then? :P
02:15 SparkyProjects I get at least 4 inches of tails in 25mm boxes
02:15 Monkeh|Lap 25mm single box. Ring + spur.
02:15 SparkyProjects if you pay me enough :P
02:16 Monkeh|Lap And yes, most of the original sockets in this place were singles.
02:16 SparkyProjects Worst are the stranded wires that have been rwisted together with plierss, but they separate when you undo the screw
02:16 Monkeh|Lap You'd have thought they'd have seen it coming by the late 70s when they wired this place, but no.
02:17 SparkyProjects I believe in doubles everywhere, singles can be a pain, and someone will always find a use for the second outlet
02:18 Monkeh|Lap Except for dedicated circuits. :P
02:18 SparkyProjects I also like MK as the terminals can be accessed from the top, and they tend to have deeper fronts allowing more room in a 25mm box
02:19 Monkeh|Lap I've had a lot of bad old MKs, I'm not sold on their three-pin shutters, and I just dislike the style of their standard range
02:19 Monkeh|Lap But they're better than the cheap chinese crap most people buy!
02:19 SparkyProjects Dedicated circuits will usually have a single cable, not a ring and spur
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02:22 SparkyProjects I prefer the shutter idea on MK, you can't get a needle in to the pins with one hand, so that means a toddler crawling about can't either (yes they did this test with supervised toddlers)
02:22 LittleCreature http://www.radiolab.org/2012/may/21/rip-rainbow/ <- this is a wonderful explantion of color vision (about 10 minutes in)
02:22 BotSteve Title: Rippin' the Rainbow a New One - Radiolab
02:22 LittleCreature using a choir
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02:23 SparkyProjects No need for those socket blanks you see on some places :P
02:24 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I've just had a load of them jam on me.
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02:24 lwq1996 labyrinth is a strange movie
02:24 LemPhone well that was fun
02:24 SparkyProjects Then maybe it's the cheap chinese plugs without the taper :P
02:25 LemPhone very cute girl at the train station, started talking to her, turns out she is studying electrical engineering
02:25 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: heh, no. ;)
02:25 lwq1996 lol
02:25 lwq1996 LemPhone: get her number? :P
02:25 LemPhone ended up spending the last 20 or so minutes talking to her about my SNARC board
02:25 SparkyProjects Lemming, new hsbne member :D
02:25 lwq1996 this is crazy, but heres my number. call me maybe
02:26 LemPhone sparkyprojects, that would be nice
02:26 LemPhone lwq1996, didn't get a chance
02:26 lwq1996 awe. forever alone
02:27 LemPhone meh, she lives on my train line probably see her again at some stage
02:27 lwq1996 that would be nice
02:27 LemPhone or she might look up the hackerspace because we did talk about it quickly
02:27 lwq1996 when i was in v
02:27 LemPhone ...?
02:28 lwq1996 when i was in virginia, i met this girl. didnt get a chance to get her number either
02:28 lwq1996 i hit enter too soon
02:28 LemPhone lol
02:29 lwq1996 while i was on my jazz trip to wild wood the same thing happened
02:29 lwq1996 i was looking at the girls asses the whole time i was there :P
02:32 tehdark45 they are all orange
02:32 tehdark45 :P
02:33 SparkyProjects reminds me of my late teens, went into a city 30 miles away by train, saw a girl on the train, after i had been shopping most of the day i got on the wrong train (it didin't stop at my home station), got off at the nest stop.
02:33 SparkyProjects That same girl was on the platform, she'd seen me get on the train and followed, so we found the right train and travelled back yo home.
02:33 SparkyProjects unfortunately she already had a boyfriend :P
02:34 lwq1996 awe
02:35 lwq1996 SparkyProjects: are you still single? no wife, no kids, still a virgin?
02:35 LittleCreature i guess nobody likes radiolab :(
02:35 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: Visions of your future?
02:35 SparkyProjects I was married for 12 years lee
02:35 lwq1996 oh
02:35 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: 'thank god that's over'?
02:35 SparkyProjects That's why i'm a granddad
02:36 lwq1996 how olds your grandchildren?
02:36 SparkyProjects yeah Monkeh, life begins at 40 :D
02:36 SparkyProjects Oldest is 21
02:36 lwq1996 not to long till your a great grand dad?
02:37 Phiraday LittleCreature: I liked it.
02:37 SparkyProjects already am lee
02:37 lwq1996 oh
02:37 lwq1996 great great grand dad then :P
02:38 SparkyProjects but that was a result of my grandson, he's not with her since before the birth, but is helping with upbringing
02:38 SparkyProjects so not that close relationship
02:40 SparkyProjects and lee, too many greats :P
02:41 lwq1996 im hoping my dad will be a great grand dad
02:41 LemPhone heh
02:41 SparkyProjects Not too soon i hope :P
02:41 SparkyProjects :D
02:41 LemPhone my dad's probably not
02:42 LemPhone sister is 34, I'm 30 and neither of us have kids
02:42 LemPhone he's 60, today actually
02:42 LemPhone close enough to 30 anyway, birthdays in november
02:42 lwq1996 my dads 51 and im 15
02:43 LemPhone heh
02:43 LemPhone not much chance then
02:43 LemPhone unless there is a major breakthrough in medicine in the next ten years
02:44 SparkyProjects Every chance (if my working is right ) if lee has a child at 18, and his child has a child at 18, then lee's dad would be 90
02:45 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Maybe he meant of lee getting laid. :P
02:45 LemPhone heh
02:45 LittleCreature lwq1996: celebrate the palindrome while it lasts
02:45 SparkyProjects ah, maybe :D
02:45 lwq1996 at the rate hes going looks like he may not last to 90
02:46 LemPhone my Grandmother on my Dads side passed away on the weekend, last living grandparent is Dad's Dad, and he is senile all hell and gone
02:48 LemPhone he's got a broken pelvis atm and is bedridden, and they ended up having to strap him to the bed because he kept trying to get out of bed
02:54 SparkyProjects My Mother died at the age of 84, but at least she got to see one of her fav bands at 82 at a concert, whne my Daughter and i took her, --Ststus Quo :D
02:54 Monkeh|Lap Ahhh, the Quo
02:54 Monkeh|Lap They're still rockin'
02:55 SparkyProjects Her other fav bands, - Meatloaf and AD/DC :D
02:55 Monkeh|Lap Awww yeah.
02:56 SparkyProjects That was gunny when she broke her hip and the surgeon (who likes to play music when he operates) asked her what her favourite music was :P
02:56 SparkyProjects *funny
02:57 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Now you've done it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44FWCt4Agho
02:57 BotSteve Title: STATUS QUO "Two Way Traffic" (2011 Official Video HD) from the new CD "QUID PRO QUO" - YouTube
02:57 SparkyProjects I've been to 3 (or was it 4) Quo concerts, and yeah, i know that one :)
02:58 Monkeh|Lap Always time to listen to it again. :)
02:59 SparkyProjects Problem is, i'd want to turn it up a bit, don't think the neighbours would appreciate good music at 4am :P
03:00 Monkeh|Lap hehe
03:00 wannabe1987 is it bad for your car to run over a turtle?  lol @ boden
03:00 Monkeh|Lap That's what headphones are for!
03:00 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: It's bad for the turtle!
03:00 SparkyProjects That looked more like a tortoise
03:00 Monkeh|Lap I don't claim to be an expect
03:00 Monkeh|Lap er
03:00 Monkeh|Lap Expert
03:00 wannabe1987 well, yes, i know its bad for the turtle/tortis
03:00 wannabe1987 lol
03:00 Monkeh|Lap It was in a shell and it had four legs.
03:00 wannabe1987 e*
03:00 wannabe1987 yeppers
03:01 Monkeh|Lap If it's in a shell and has no legs I step on it
03:01 Monkeh|Lap If it's in a shell and has four legs, it's cute
03:01 wannabe1987 ...
03:01 Monkeh|Lap If it's in a shell and has lots of legs, I EAT IT.
03:01 wannabe1987 ....?
03:02 Monkeh|Lap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Nephrops_norvegicus.jpg
03:02 SparkyProjects Crab or lobster i believe wannabe
03:02 wannabe1987 ooooo
03:02 wannabe1987 i don't eat those things normally
03:02 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Langoustine.
03:02 SparkyProjects ah
03:02 Monkeh|Lap Which is a lobster, technically, yes.
03:02 Monkeh|Lap Also crab, I like crab.
03:03 SparkyProjects Used to go through loads of crab sticks on holidays
03:03 Monkeh|Lap I need more good headphones, Status Quo don't sound as good on my laptop as they should.
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03:03 Monkeh|Lap Nor will Magnum.
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Fresh crab is best by far
03:04 wannabe1987 well, duh
03:05 Monkeh|Lap A lot of this album is not on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV5_DAoCCsY
03:05 BotSteve Title: Magnum Freedom day - YouTube
03:06 Carvagon mmmm crab
03:06 Carvagon might have to take a detour to chicago after i leave grand rapids.  damn you lol
03:12 wannabe1987 ...
03:12 lwq1996 wannabe1987: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/310042_370402363022645_165243706871846_1058348_914648227_n.jpg
03:13 wannabe1987 saw it.  didn't find it funny
03:13 lwq1996 why?
03:14 wannabe1987 because making fun of old people isn't nice
03:14 lwq1996 your old :P
03:14 wannabe1987 you're*
03:15 wannabe1987 i also use proper grammar
03:15 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Don't play that game with me around, you missed a 'B' and a '.'. :P
03:17 wannabe1987 .........................
03:17 wannabe1987 there.  a bunch of spares
03:17 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: :)
03:22 wannabe1987 you watching the cb yet?
03:22 wannabe1987 todays is out
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Watched. :P
03:23 wannabe1987 i got to sort cords and cables!
03:24 wannabe1987 i enjoyed it...i enjoy untangling rats nests of cords......
03:25 wannabe1987 mmmm yummy food :)
03:26 Carvagon still catching up with old ones
03:27 wannabe1987 i'm behind, but i didn'tk now they were painting the stairway.....
03:27 wannabe1987 i was diong computers today.....
03:27 wannabe1987 christina and amy's mom came in today....:)
03:28 wannabe1987 bought a compooper
03:28 Carvagon thats cool
03:28 wannabe1987 yeah
03:28 tehdark45 is is pooper?
03:28 tehdark45 is it*
03:30 wannabe1987 it has a crt....you tell me
03:30 wannabe1987 Cprossu!
03:30 wannabe1987 where are you?????  i need you to fix my washer yet.....
03:31 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKjyMKj3n4 :o
03:31 BotSteve Title: Scamming the scammers -- catching the virus call centre scammers red-handed - YouTube
03:31 tehdark45 .c 90f to c
03:31 BotSteve 32.2222222 degrees Celsius
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03:33 tehdark45 wb Ponko
03:33 wannabe1987 hai
03:33 Ponko hey guys
03:33 wannabe1987 http://explosm.net/comics/2806/
03:33 BotSteve Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2806 - Explosm.net
03:34 Carvagon ha thats good
03:36 lwq1996 ponko is jacking to porn
03:36 Ponko oh yeah....
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03:37 * Ponko facepalm
03:37 lwq1996 lol
03:46 Ponko who else is on?
03:46 Ponko HighMan: you on?
03:47 tehdark45 HighMan, respond!
03:48 Ponko bleed HighMan bleed
03:48 Ponko least i didn't say something else
03:49 tehdark45 lwq1996, what did you do with hy
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04:14 LittleCreature "Channel Rules:  Respect each other.  Have fun." <- does this mean that if you are not having fun you are breaking the rules :P
04:14 tonsofpcs yes.
04:16 tehdark45 i am not having fun
04:16 tehdark45 i am a rebel
04:16 tehdark45 :P
04:22 LittleCreature >.< why do so many articles/papers/books about electronics use the phrase 'flow of current'/'current flow'/etc
04:23 LittleCreature current is a flow
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04:41 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
04:45 lwq1996 night im going to bed
04:53 wannabe1987 night
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05:12 LemLap ello all
05:12 LemLap wonderful wet day here >_<
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05:12 LemLap and I have a resonably important meeting in about 45 minutes
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06:03 wannabe1987 ok bed time night all
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06:42 Experimentonomen g'mornin peepz
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06:58 Experimentonomen g'mornin miss wannabe
07:06 Hackpony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLUImqsoX7I&amp;feature=relmfu heh :3
07:06 BotSteve Title: Stephen Merchant Does a Cartwheel - The Graham Norton Show - BBC One - YouTube
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07:10 * Experimentonomen mornin yawns
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07:34 * Experimentonomen listens to the Top Gun theme song
07:38 Cprossu wow that took some time (just rebuilt mike and kelly's washing machine)
07:39 Cprossu I hate when people who have no idea how to fix appliances try and fix them.
07:39 Cprossu ughhhh
07:39 Cprossu at least they were kind enough to leave the 'extra screws' and the rusty hindge parts flung across the floor
07:42 Thermoelectric What was wrong with it?
07:45 Experimentonomen i'd say loose electrical connections from unbalanced spin cycles is the most common failure mode
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07:47 Experimentonomen and maybe a blown triac in the motor speed controller
07:53 Thermoelectric Most of the washing machines I've fixed have usually been the water pump motor or some problem with the controller board.
08:00 Experimentonomen or just a worn out program drum in the mechanical program thingy
08:02 Experimentonomen these new digital washing machines seem to break as soon as they've been installed :/
08:03 Experimentonomen really unreliable plastic crap
08:03 Cprossu this is an old late 80's maytag
08:03 Cprossu Thermoelectric: the first problem was the lid safety rod was bent
08:03 Cprossu someone replaced the switch but ignored the bent rod
08:04 Cprossu then someone took the front panel off and lost the screws and hinges (they were on the floor)
08:04 Cprossu and several other things were put back wrong
08:04 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, I've found the Fisher and Paykel smartdrives over here are pretty reliable, seem to last for quite some time.
08:04 Cprossu but literally about the only thing that could go wrong with this beast is the belt
08:05 Experimentonomen thermo, i kinda wanna get one of those smartdrive motors
08:05 Cprossu assuming some idiot didn't attempt repairs to it and fail
08:05 Thermoelectric So it was nice and well built? Cool.
08:05 Cprossu it was well built.
08:05 Experimentonomen too bad half the motor is part of the rear wall of the outer drum :(
08:05 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, I've got a few, they're fun but I doubt would be cheap to ship...
08:05 Cprossu Maytag Fabri-matic.
08:06 Cprossu The fisher paykel dryer I helped ynos with had it's bearing self destruct
08:06 Cprossu $80 part
08:06 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, They're not really part of the outer drum, that's only where the bearings are held.
08:06 Experimentonomen i've been looking for getting something bigger for my bldc drive project to bite into, atm my largest bldc motor is around 60 watts
08:06 Thermoelectric That's an expensive bearing...
08:07 Cprossu indeed it was
08:07 Cprossu the bearing cover was not in the kit but also self destructed
08:07 Thermoelectric I blew a 60W incandescent lamp with the smartdrive motor (driving it with an electric drill).
08:07 Cprossu $2 part but no one stocked it locally
08:07 Cprossu three phase motor in that dryer
08:07 Cprossu btew
08:07 Cprossu and a VFD I assume
08:07 Thermoelectric How'd it manage to self destruct?
08:08 Experimentonomen thermo, do those smartdrive motors have three hall effect sensors in them or do they run on a sensorless drive ?
08:08 Thermoelectric They've got hall effects.
08:08 Cprossu the bearing blew apart Thermoelectric
08:08 Thermoelectric Overspeed or just a sad bearing?
08:08 Experimentonomen good
08:08 Cprossu then it rode on the cover
08:08 Cprossu sad bearing.
08:08 Experimentonomen my drive is sensored only
08:09 Cprossu was a bitch to get to the bearing surface to replace it
08:09 Cprossu fisher & paykel = bitch to service.
08:09 Experimentonomen Cprossu, that bearing was prolly never intended to be replaced anyways :P
08:10 Thermoelectric The ones in the washing machines don't appear to be intended to serviced... Gotta pound on them to push them out.
08:10 Cprossu then why do they sell a kit to do it Experimentonomen? =P
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08:10 Experimentonomen Cprossu, they realized some ppl actually do wanna go through the process of replacing that bearing ?
08:11 Experimentonomen it kinda sux that those smartdrive motors only seem to exist down under in AUS :/ i bet shipping would be well above 100AUD
08:12 Thermoelectric Yeah, they're very light... The majority of them you find will have cracked rotors aswell... The plastic they're made of seems to fracture after a long life.
08:12 Thermoelectric not very light*
08:13 Experimentonomen those motors weight like 10-15 kilos eh ?
08:13 Thermoelectric I'll go check.
08:14 Experimentonomen but then again fisher & paykel is a AUS manuf, no ?
08:15 Cprossu fisher paykel, part # 479332
08:15 Cprossu http://www.deyparts.net/thumbnail/product/557602/350/350
08:15 Cprossu ^ fairly involved.
08:16 Thermoelectric The one I have, with shaft, and a partial bearing mount (bit of the base of the drum) weighs 7.35kg.
08:16 Thermoelectric Looks just about as involved as the rest of the dryers out there?
08:17 Cprossu most dryers don't have their bearings explode
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08:17 Experimentonomen i wonder how many RPM one of these motors would make when running my bldc drive off 320V rectified mains
08:17 Thermoelectric Mmm, true.
08:17 Cprossu we had to take this one down the internal frame to repalce the wearing surface
08:17 Cprossu you literally take the indsides out of the shell Thermoelectric
08:18 Thermoelectric Ah, okay.
08:18 Cprossu as opposed to more primative designs where the case peels off the front
08:18 Cprossu I prefer those.
08:18 Thermoelectric Experimentonomen, Well, they seem to do a decent RPM on rectified mains over here...
08:18 Cprossu pop the sheet metal case off and you get access to everything(!)
08:18 Cprossu love that
08:19 Thermoelectric Ah well, not all manufacturers are that nice.
08:19 Experimentonomen thermo, but those top fed machines only has like a 300 or 600 rpm spin cycle, no ?
08:19 Thermoelectric Probably. I've never actually measured them.
08:19 Thermoelectric I'd say closer to the higher range of that though.
08:20 Cprossu whirlpool's are a breeze, as were maytag, amana, and my favorite speed queen
08:21 Experimentonomen i've seen other versions of the smartdrive too that looks identical to a pancake motor from a harddrive in construction, just that the rotor is like 12-15 inches in diameter rather than 2-3 inches
08:21 Experimentonomen ie a pressed sheet steel rotor
08:22 Experimentonomen or punched or whatever
08:24 Thermoelectric http://www.thebackshed.com/windmill/FPdiss.asp
08:24 BotSteve Title: TheBackShed.com - Smartdrive Diss-assembly
08:24 Thermoelectric That's what the one I have looks like.
08:25 Experimentonomen yeh i know those, those are the original smartdrive ones
08:26 Experimentonomen the one with just the plain punched sheet steel rotor i believe would be like a LG front loaders and such
08:26 Thermoelectric Ah, so not Fisher and Paykel, okay.
08:27 Cprossu we don't normally see them here but I understand miele's are well built...
08:28 Thermoelectric That they are, can withstand harsh conditions for quite some time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbRjjn-DIWA
08:28 BotSteve Title: Miele Flamespin 3000 Perfect Full Speed Run 3.0 - YouTube
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08:29 Experimentonomen http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/2010/supremewhirlpol++11-14-2010-20-04-6.jpg <-- like that one
08:30 Thermoelectric Ahh, okay. Those look easier to mount/center as well compared to smart drives...
08:30 Experimentonomen and really smart to put the hall sensors at the bottom right in the path of a leaking seal
08:30 Cprossu good to know that my clothes would still be washed in event of a house fire Thermoelectric lol...
08:31 Thermoelectric :)
08:31 Thermoelectric It helps the machine realise it's leaking?
08:33 Cprossu wow Thermoelectric..... and only the drivebelt went hahahahaa
08:33 Experimentonomen http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?31496 <-- thats what aussie50 means when he talks abvout a corroded spider on modern machines
08:33 BotSteve Title: Discuss-o-Mat Thread: Everyone meet Horsey->LG
08:34 Thermoelectric As I said, they're great in tough conditions, hah.
08:34 Cprossu I might have to have one special ordered
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08:42 Cprossu I am off night all
08:42 BitViper g'nite Cprossu
08:42 Thermoelectric Night Cprossu.
08:46 Experimentonomen nite sleeprossu
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08:46 BitViper friggin isp
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09:43 LemPhone it's quiet in here....
09:43 LemPhone a little TOO quiet
09:43 * LemPhone twitches his hand near his holster
09:47 * LemPhone sighs resignedly, blows the bar to shreds and tromps back out of the room
09:48 Experimentonomen impatient guy ;p
10:14 Thermoelectric Think I might have to start manually routing this PCB. :(
10:16 Sgt_Lemming Thermoelectric, autorouting never works 100%
10:16 Sgt_Lemming you ALWAYS have to do some manual routing
10:16 Sgt_Lemming and to be honest, most of the time I just find it easier to manual route
10:18 Thermoelectric I wouldn't mind manual routing if I could figure out where the best spots to put components are... Always has to be a catch...
10:19 Sgt_Lemming that is half the tedium in designing a pcb
10:19 Sgt_Lemming is deciding where to put everything
10:19 Sgt_Lemming general rule of thumb is the main ic/component centrally
10:19 Sgt_Lemming and then everything surrounding it
10:20 tehdark45 i think the solution is drink more, it will come to you
10:21 Thermoelectric Don't think that'd go down too well with my parents. :P
10:22 tehdark45 Meh
10:22 Thermoelectric *sigh* I shall keep moving stuff around...
10:23 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, go over there and help ;P
10:23 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, pay for the airfare and sure
10:23 Thermoelectric I'll get it eventually, when Eagle decides to let me undo the autorouter like it did last night.
10:23 Sgt_Lemming Thermoelectric is like 1000km north of me
10:24 tehdark45 Close enough
10:24 Thermoelectric You make it sound so far away.
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10:24 tehdark45 only 10 hours of driving
10:25 Thermoelectric And like a bazillion dollars of fuel.
10:25 Sgt_Lemming http://goo.gl/maps/eo7V <--- make that 1700km
10:26 Sgt_Lemming and 20 hours of driving
10:26 BotSteve Title: Annerley QLD to Cairns QLD - Google Maps
10:26 Sgt_Lemming and I don't have a car...
10:27 tehdark45 aus gas is about the same as it is here
10:27 tehdark45 ~140
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10:34 Thermoelectric Bah, that's enough trying to get the right spot for parts for tonight...
10:35 tehdark45 bah humbug?
10:44 Thermoelectric Mebeh.
10:44 tehdark45 i can haz your monies?
10:44 tehdark45 :P
10:45 Thermoelectric Mah moniez.
10:46 tehdark45 but Uncle Thrmo!
10:46 tehdark45 lol
10:46 Thermoelectric Are you daft man?!
10:47 tehdark45 i could be
10:49 Thermoelectric Pfft.
10:49 tehdark45 Are you?
10:49 Thermoelectric I'm the mad/crazy side of it. :D
10:50 tehdark45 That is this entire organization
10:50 tehdark45 :P
10:50 Thermoelectric Wonderful!
10:50 tehdark45 especially Experimentonomen, with all those amps
10:51 Experimentonomen ?
10:51 tehdark45 !
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10:53 Thermoelectric .weather Cairns
10:53 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 20℃, 1016mb, Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - YBCS 10:30Z
10:53 Thermoelectric I'm cold. :/
10:54 tehdark45 20 and cold?
10:54 tehdark45 are you mad?
10:54 Thermoelectric Yup.
10:55 * Experimentonomen stares out tehdark45
10:55 Thermoelectric But for Cairns, that is cold.
10:55 Experimentonomen .weather harnosand
10:55 BotSteve Cover Unknown, ?, ?mb, Light air 3kt (↑) - ESNK 10:50Z
10:55 tehdark45 I'm from South Africa. 20 was and hot, but certainly not cold
10:55 tehdark45 not hot*
10:55 * tehdark45 stares back
10:56 tehdark45 20 was not hot*
10:56 Thermoelectric Low 30's are starting to get hot for us.
10:57 Thermoelectric scratch the starting part.
10:58 tehdark45 i like how 0-20 is cold and 20-30 is hot
10:58 tehdark45 :P
10:58 Twiddlekins_ 30 would be wonderful *checks current* hmm.. 8
10:58 Twiddlekins_ 5 with windchill
10:59 Thermoelectric Brrr.
10:59 tehdark45 you get below 20 in aus?
10:59 tehdark45 :P
10:59 Twiddlekins_ oh in some bits sure
10:59 Twiddlekins_ im only an hour from the snowfields
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12:24 Experimentonomen bah i wish ppl could tension their fan belts on thir cars, all day i've been likstening to *SQUUEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL* from cars driving by with loose fan/alternator belts, frigging annoying -,-
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12:42 BitViper build an emp gun
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12:58 Damianz http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1106/duct-tape-and-wd40-duct-tape-wd40-fix-broke-demotivational-posters-1308132595.jpg still the best flow diagram ever.
13:05 Experimentonomen BitViper, emp guns do not exist in real life
13:07 Carvagon is it possible to focus a pulse in a certain direction?
13:19 Thermoelectric Carvagon, To an extent, yes. Think of stomper, or even transformers. Both have the ability to make the "pulse" go in the direction they want.
13:25 Carvagon ahhh ok gotcha
13:27 BitViper Experimentonomen : thats why you have to build one =P
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14:32 * BitViper checks the channel's pulse ... declares it DOA
14:36 Carvagon lol
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15:07 Experimentonomen jesus christ! i jujst shipped the stuff i sold and shipping turned out more than i was able to get for the stuff i sold
15:07 Experimentonomen i HATE the swedish postal service *pissed off real bad*
15:08 BitViper they need seks
15:09 Experimentonomen its just not viable to sell stuff international here in sweden, whatever i get for an item, the postal service comes and bites me in the ass with a shipping cost larger than the item price
15:09 Experimentonomen what really sucks is that one buyer is a 14 or something year old kid :(
15:10 Experimentonomen and i know its rude to sell something, ship it and then come and say "hey shipping exceeded the item price, you have to pay more"
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15:13 Yrouel hi
15:14 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon yr
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15:36 Yrouel hi Experimentonomen
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16:21 dan9788wax Good Morning
16:21 dan9788wax Wax n
16:23 dan9788wax ????
16:23 wannabe1987 hi
16:23 dan9788wax Hi
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16:24 dan9788wax How are ya
16:24 wannabe1987 slowly waking up.  yourself?
16:25 dan9788wax Samething
16:26 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon wax on wax off
16:33 dan9788wax Hi
16:42 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/485794_421583927862624_367116489976035_1363457_25708788_n.jpg  happy towel day!
16:51 Carvagon lol
16:54 wannabe1987 what?
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17:07 mashpriborintorg hey guys
17:08 mashpriborintorg the street gave me a pristine looking Samsung 20 inch tft today
17:08 mashpriborintorg ... bad caps symptoms.
17:12 Yrouel mashpriborintorg nice
17:12 Yrouel you already opened it?
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17:15 mashpriborintorg not yet... but according to the interwebs they all have the same fault
17:16 mashpriborintorg repair capacitorv kits for them sells like hotcakes
17:20 Yrouel well that's a good news
17:20 wannabe1987 .c .25*100
17:20 BotSteve 25
17:21 mashpriborintorg lucky Chris, no many big copiers to take apart
17:22 mashpriborintorg *so
17:22 wannabe1987 o yes....like he'll be doing the work.....NOT
17:22 * Damianz gives wannabe1987 a hammer and voluntolds her to have fun
17:24 mashpriborintorg no cheating here, no power screw driver. only hands force.
17:24 wannabe1987 wannabe has family obligations today...i have to go to grandmas and make brownies....after that i'll be in....but i want the fried motherboards from the scrap computers
17:25 mashpriborintorg what for
17:25 wannabe1987 the inductors.
17:25 wannabe1987 i make jewerly out of them.
17:25 mashpriborintorg ah. I tossed tons of them
17:25 Experimentonomen g'evenin mash
17:26 mashpriborintorg hiya
17:28 Yrouel mashpriborintorg tossed?
17:28 Yrouel is copper...
17:28 wannabe1987 you should send them to me :nods:
17:29 Yrouel wannabe1987 is funny that copper nowadays is so valuable that jewelry made out of it make total sense
17:29 wannabe1987 but the inductors!  they're pretty on necklaces!
17:30 wannabe1987 and earrings!
17:30 Yrouel wannabe1987 the reast of the board you can attach to the wall
17:30 Yrouel somewhere
17:30 Yrouel at tgg
17:30 Yrouel you guys should make a wall of fame for circuit boards
17:31 wannabe1987 no, they already want to do a bathroom of proccessors
17:31 wannabe1987 https://www.etsy.com/listing/98374506/inductor-necklace
17:31 wannabe1987 that!
17:31 BotSteve Title: Inductor Necklace by wannabe1987 on Etsy
17:31 wannabe1987 there
17:31 Yrouel well wannabe1987 take a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPU72VmtHuY
17:31 BotSteve Title: PCB Wall - YouTube
17:31 wannabe1987 now i'm leaving.....
17:32 wannabe1987 internet source is going to the lab....bye!
17:33 mashpriborintorg Dear Mr Samsung, can't you use screws for your stupind lcd displays casing ?
17:33 Damianz Because taking it apart with a blow torch is too much fun
17:36 mashpriborintorg Hmmm strange. first time I see a bleeding TFT.
17:36 mashpriborintorg OH S.... ITS NOT THE TFT ITS ME
17:37 Experimentonomen hehehehehe
17:42 Yrouel mashpriborintorg now that the tft tasted your blood it will come to take the rest
17:42 Yrouel beware tonight...
17:47 mashpriborintorg were are my 470 micro caps when I need them
17:48 mantere I have a problem with the tft screen i found, it had few bad caps which i changed and it worked fine for a week or two, but now it just comes on for a second and the screen goes black. i already changed all the caps, except the 400v which look just fine.
17:48 mantere Power light stays green though. i wonder if the back lights are dying.
17:48 mashpriborintorg possible
17:50 mashpriborintorg Can I replace a 470 micro cap with 2 of 1000 micro in series ?
17:52 Carvagon its power transformer needs replaced.  just had to have it done to my tv.  would come on for a sec and go black but would still have sound
17:54 Experimentonomen nope
17:54 Experimentonomen u need low esr caps
17:55 mashpriborintorg lets be hardcore, I stick a 1000 micro instead of the 470 :p
17:55 mashpriborintorg only 3 bulging caps spotted
17:58 Experimentonomen that may upset the switchmode psu control loops, rendering the psu unstable
17:59 mashpriborintorg if it gives signs of life, I'll the proper value later
17:59 Experimentonomen in smps stuff theres a rule that sez only replace with same value parts, you can go one voltage rating higher though
17:59 Experimentonomen unstable psu = good night control circuitry
18:01 Experimentonomen hm imgur is down, gives some dns resolution error and some bullshit
18:01 mashpriborintorg yay
18:01 mashpriborintorg it works
18:02 mashpriborintorg check signal cable
18:03 mashpriborintorg this tft cost me the electricity for 5 minutes of soldering iron :p
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18:12 wannabe1987 made it to grandmas....w00t
18:20 mashpriborintorg everybody, don't move
18:20 mashpriborintorg I lost my multimeter
18:20 wannabe1987 uh oh
18:21 SparkyProjects Look in the fridge :P
18:21 mashpriborintorg no room for it in the fridge, full of beer
18:21 SparkyProjects Or down the back of the sofa
18:22 * Experimentonomen moves
18:22 * wannabe1987 is moving around a kitchen. i don't see it
18:23 * Experimentonomen hears a crunch, looks down and sees a rather sad looking multimeter
18:23 wannabe1987 o.O
18:23 * mashpriborintorg orders the latest model of lab grade Agilent multimeter
18:24 SparkyProjects And with the loose change in the sofa, you might just be able to pay for it
18:24 Experimentonomen hah
18:25 mashpriborintorg brb, burger time
18:25 Experimentonomen nom
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18:43 Seroster SparkyProjects!
18:43 SparkyProjects ?
18:43 Seroster Got questions for ya
18:43 Seroster Ready? =D
18:43 SparkyProjects yep
18:44 Seroster ...What is love?
18:44 Seroster Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more!
18:44 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmbhYKDKfU
18:44 BotSteve Title: Haddaway - What Is Love - YouTube
18:44 SparkyProjects That would have ben my reply :P
18:44 Seroster Lol
18:45 Seroster My variac is unwired
18:45 Seroster I need to wire it =>
18:45 Seroster The toroid itself got three wires. One side, other side and brush
18:45 SparkyProjects You mean input and output ?
18:45 Seroster I assume you tie hot to one side, neutral to the other and output to the brush?
18:46 Seroster Err, I think that is in/out with a shared neutral, yes
18:47 Seroster Problem is...
18:47 SparkyProjects yes, the neutral of input and output tie together at the contact that is at the anticlockwise end
18:47 Seroster Hrm.
18:47 Seroster Yes
18:47 Seroster Thing is the connection terminal is mean to me
18:48 SparkyProjects too small ?
18:48 Seroster I got five places to connect,  R-4  Mp-Mp Ground-Ground U2-1   u1-Mp
18:48 Seroster U1, Mp Mp and Mp are all neutral
18:49 Seroster But wich is in and which is out? (R-4) or (u2-1)?
18:49 SparkyProjects That means nothing to me
18:49 SparkyProjects Is there a sort of diagram on the front ?
18:49 Seroster Nope :P
18:49 SparkyProjects Make and model ?
18:50 Seroster Is it reasonable to assume that U1 and U2 are power in and R and Mp are power out?
18:50 SparkyProjects nope
18:50 Seroster Type FDR 80
18:50 Seroster Make...
18:50 Seroster FISCHBACH
18:51 Seroster There's no doubt that Mp and U1 are both neutral
18:51 SparkyProjects Used to have that company at work, they supplied the fans and catiac controls :P
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18:52 Seroster But U2 and R are unknown and possibly in/out
19:00 SparkyProjects http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/247981121/Double_Layer_Variac.jpgNot very clear, but top left and right would be power in, one of those would be neutral, wiper would be output
19:00 SparkyProjects Alternately you may have a terminal that is like the other one on the right, if you put the live feed to that, then you can get a bit more voltage at full rotation, typically this would be 270V for a 240 supply
19:01 SparkyProjects Like this http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~reese/VariacPage/variac_revealed2.jpg
19:01 SparkyProjects If you put mains input on 1&2, you get the overvolt thing
19:02 Seroster hm
19:02 Seroster couldnt load first
19:02 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, aint 270V on full rotation how prewired variacs are delivered ?
19:02 SparkyProjects usually yes
19:03 Seroster so nr 3 is brush?
19:03 Experimentonomen variac, variable autotransformer or autoformer :P or friggin huge rheostat :P
19:03 SparkyProjects yes, also known as wiper
19:03 Yrouel Seroster remove "Not" after jpg
19:03 Seroster aasaaah
19:03 SparkyProjects Not a rheostat, that's a resistor :P
19:04 * Experimentonomen wonders at what size and power rating a potentiometer turns into a rheostat as both are more or less the same thing
19:05 SparkyProjects Variac is iron cored :P
19:05 * wannabe1987 just fished egg shell out of the brownie mix.....yum
19:05 SparkyProjects Rheostat is probably the old word for wirewound variable resistor
19:05 Experimentonomen variac is just a toroid inductor with the winding exposed
19:08 SparkyProjects btw, when i asked the Fischbach rep if they did an automatic control to replace the manual variacs, rgis was the alternative
19:08 SparkyProjects http://www.fischbach-air.de/en/regel-automatik/index.php
19:08 SparkyProjects It's a motor driven variac, and when controlling airflow, the variac was almost constanly on the move, burnt out brushes in a couple of months
19:08 BotSteve Title: Fischbach GmbH - Automatic control
19:08 tonsofpcs s/old//
19:09 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, shitty quality brushes then ;p
19:09 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: in my mind, when you can see the resistive plate and wiper, it's a rheostat.  'Potentiometer' includes the kind that are just carbon (or whatever resistive material) in a line with something touching it
19:10 tonsofpcs rheostats always have knobs, pots don't, etc :-p
19:10 SparkyProjects The rep said their motors (flat plate design) would be noisier and cause bearings to fail quickly, i proved him wrong :D
19:10 Yrouel the brushes are made of graphite or a mix of materials?
19:10 Experimentonomen same as motor brushes i'd guess
19:11 Experimentonomen graphite with copper
19:11 Experimentonomen atleast higher quality brushes has copper in them
19:12 SparkyProjects I think they were hard carbon, like a standard variac, but when the brush moved constatly up and down, it didin't take long to wear down
19:12 SparkyProjects It just astounded me that they didn't have a VFD repllacement for auto control
19:13 Experimentonomen and you'd think motor driven vartiacs are designed for moving continously
19:14 SparkyProjects The rep tried to tell me that their motors needed variable voltage to run properly
19:14 Experimentonomen maybe they cannot tolerate the whine from the vfd pwm
19:14 wannabe1987 .in 20min BROWNIES
19:14 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 19:34Z
19:16 Experimentonomen btw why is there copper in motor brushes ? does it make them last longer or run cooler due to lower resistance or what ?
19:16 SparkyProjects We didn't notice any increased whine, rhese were the fan units http://www.fischbach-air.de/en/compact-geblaese/doppelseitig-saugend.php
19:16 SparkyProjects And those were the small ones.
19:16 SparkyProjects And we had about 80 of them :P
19:16 BotSteve Title: Fischbach GmbH - double inlet
19:17 Experimentonomen how did u managed to speed control induction motors with variacs ?
19:17 SparkyProjects Exactly, but it did work
19:19 Experimentonomen though i have seen such speed control once, on a old fan that used to be some sorta air cleaner, sucked air in through a filter on one side of a wooden box and out through a filter on the other end of the box
19:19 Experimentonomen but i guess that motor was specially designed to be speed controlled by voltage despite beeing an induction motor
19:19 wannabe1987 it feels so good to sit...
19:20 Experimentonomen been standing all day at work eh ?
19:21 Experimentonomen i have problems with standing for more than a minute, by legs starts itching
19:29 wannabe1987 no
19:29 wannabe1987 i was standing in the kitchen, barefoot....
19:29 wannabe1987 working
19:30 wannabe1987 making brownies for the bake sale my mom is having tomorrow...i'd be making them at her house, but her oven stopped working
19:32 mashpriborintorg yay this youtube ad has russian oscilloscopes inside :p
19:32 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/fgHSUjO2zPQ
19:32 BotSteve Title: Metro: Last Light - Entrez dans le Métro (Version Française Officielle) - YouTube
19:34 BotSteve wannabe1987: BROWNIES
19:35 Seroster Well that explains why my front brakes suddenly quit on me
19:35 Seroster They kinda FELL OFF
19:35 exor674 oO
19:35 Experimentonomen owned :P
19:35 wannabe1987 ...
19:35 wannabe1987 .in 5 minutes brownies
19:35 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 19:40Z
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19:37 Experimentonomen O_o
19:37 Seroster Brake discs are made of ceramic welded to a piece of steel held in the brake device
19:37 Seroster The steel was so heavily corroded the ceramic disc fell off. Nothing holding it but rust
19:37 wannabe1987 hahahahaha
19:38 Experimentonomen your scooter is a rustbucket! :P
19:38 Seroster OFC it is! It sat outside for EIGHT years
19:38 Experimentonomen junk it! its a death trap!
19:38 Seroster Expect chrome from that?
19:38 Seroster Lol
19:39 Seroster IT'S A BÖGPULKA! OFC IT'S A DEATH TRAP
19:39 themacandpcguy Hello i am thinking of buying an Arduino, do you know which is the best one for beginers.
19:39 * Experimentonomen h'ller saltsyra i motorn
19:39 Experimentonomen häller'
19:39 Seroster lol
19:39 wannabe1987 english please!
19:39 wannabe1987 themacandpcguy....not off the top of my head, but i'm sure others here can help you :)
19:40 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, your oven is on fire
19:40 Seroster It's a 1996 engine, it would probably just eat the acid and puke it out in your face.
19:40 wannabe1987 not mmy oven
19:40 BotSteve wannabe1987: brownies
19:41 * Experimentonomen fills Seroster's engine with expanding foam :P
19:41 Seroster It's a 1996 engine, it would probably just eat the foam and puke it out in your face.
19:42 wannabe1987 .in 5min oven
19:42 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 19:47Z
19:42 * Experimentonomen fills Seroster's engine with fast setting super epoxy
19:44 Seroster It's a 1996 engine, it would probably just eat the epoxy and puke it out in your face.
19:44 Experimentonomen in your dreams
19:44 Experimentonomen moped engines are way easier to kill than you think
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19:46 wannabe1987 themacandpcguy: i was told "they are all the same knowledgwise, but I (zozo, a mod here) likes the "uno" ".  hope that helps!
19:47 BotSteve wannabe1987: oven
19:48 Experimentonomen the duemilanove is better at it has a ftdi chip instead of a mega8 for the usb to serial thing, the uno doesent support certyain sketches due to this
19:48 Yrouel themacandpcguy the Uno is perfectly fine to begin experimenting with
19:48 Experimentonomen assuming its arduinos
19:49 Yrouel Experimentonomen how the sketches have to do something with the ftdi chip?
19:49 Yrouel sketches aren't suppose to know what feeds them the serial coms
19:49 Experimentonomen and for some reason i cannot see what themacandpcguy is typing :/
19:49 Experimentonomen Yrouel, its just what i've read on the arduino website
19:49 Yrouel Experimentonomen you sure it was about sketches and not bootloaders?
19:50 Experimentonomen i believe its the ability to use a arduino as a avrisp thats not supported by the uno
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19:50 Yrouel oh ok
19:51 Yrouel but they should have updated such things to support the new board
19:52 Yrouel http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoISP
19:52 BotSteve Title: Arduino - ArduinoISP
19:53 wannabe1987 themacandpcguy: you still here?
19:55 wannabe1987 ovens are hot
19:55 Yrouel Experimentonomen anyway the bright side of the uno is that you can relatively easily fake some usb devices
20:00 mashpriborintorg fried, going to bed, see ya
20:00 wannabe1987 night
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20:09 eg_lappy meep
20:10 wannabe1987 hi guardianzozo
20:10 guardianzozo yo
20:11 wannabe1987 i put two pans in the oven at one time, one pan was done in 20 minutes, the other 35 minutes....so weird
20:11 wannabe1987 almost done here
20:12 wannabe1987 alright
20:12 wannabe1987 be back online later.
20:12 guardianzozo k
20:12 guardianzozo later
20:32 Yrouel wow SpaceX Dragon succesfully berthed to the ISS
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21:16 Experimentonomen g'evenin Chipguy
21:16 Chipguy hey exp
21:16 Chipguy your awake late
21:17 Experimentonomen :o
21:19 eg_lappy Chipguy, you're* ;)
21:19 Chipguy yup
21:19 Chipguy too lazy to write the '
21:19 Chipguy its a pain with a german keyboard
21:19 eg_lappy lol
21:19 eg_lappy get a proper kb then :P
21:20 Chipguy nah
21:20 eg_lappy hehe
21:20 Chipguy it sounds about right when you speak it out
21:20 Experimentonomen Chipguy, i got robbed today :/
21:20 Chipguy so its ok
21:20 eg_lappy gotta go. night all :P
21:20 Chipguy you got robbed ?
21:20 Chipguy nite eg
21:20 Chipguy robbed of what ?
21:20 Experimentonomen yup, by the local postal service
21:20 Chipguy errrr
21:21 Chipguy they bring you parcels, they dont steal them from you
21:22 Experimentonomen i was sending two packages, stuff i sold, stuff i sold, that shipping turned out to be over 30 euros on
21:22 Experimentonomen exceeded what i sold the items for
21:22 Chipguy you should have checked beforehand how much posting will be
21:23 Experimentonomen i sortof did, but as i dont have a scale, i had no way of checking actual weight
21:23 Experimentonomen but a rough estimation revealed that shipping should only have been around 16 euros
21:25 Chipguy yeah
21:25 Chipguy same problem
21:25 Chipguy weightscale is important
21:25 Experimentonomen but the postal service slapped me with 40 euros shipping for 1.1 kilos and 36 euros for the other 100 gram lighter package
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21:26 Experimentonomen around 5 years ago i sent a 15 kilo package to the UK and i can swear that was 20 euros or less
21:27 Experimentonomen it also turned pout that my weight estimation was more or less spot on
21:28 Experimentonomen unless the postage estimator assumes that im using the flatrate boxes they sell
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21:30 injektion I need to build or buy some thin clients
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21:35 wannabe1987 weeee  computer got dusted.....theres a hunk of dust under "j"
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22:03 lwq1996 anyone been so pissed off that you want to break everything?
22:05 injektion Yes
22:05 BitViper most of the time
22:05 lwq1996 i just want to punch someone. the bearing went out of my bike because some asshole was throwing it around
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22:12 Experimentonomen bikes are built to be thrown around, if a bearing goes, it was simply just worn out
22:13 lwq1996 it wasnt like that when i last rode it, my mother threw it by the shed
22:14 Experimentonomen ihad a bike that i smashed into lamp posts and threw off a 5 meter cliff few times in rage, never had a bearing fo bad, just put the chain back in place and continue thye ride
22:15 lwq1996 this bike is the walmart cheap 140dollars
22:15 Experimentonomen same with my bikes, all cheapos
22:17 Experimentonomen on one the chain guide gearbox stuff broke, another one i warped the rear wheel one but ramming it with grandmas car which also ended with me spending a few hours repairing the garage door as i went halfway through that as well due to a bad mood
22:17 Chipguy bedtime nite all
22:18 Experimentonomen nite chip
22:20 BitViper ROTFL http://www.sync-blog.com/wp-content/gallery/geek_apparel/particle-physics-gives-me-a-hadron.jpg needs to be a tshirt
22:21 Experimentonomen heh
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22:35 eadthem stream down?
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22:43 Experimentonomen aight im goin to bed, nite peepz
22:43 eadthem radio is down as well
22:47 Sasha_ Hey guys
22:49 lwq1996 hi sasha
22:52 Sasha_ What do you guys think of this laser? http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/444862496-High-Power-Green-Laser-Pointer-200MW-500MW-adjustable-star-burn-match-Li-ion-Battery-charge-wholesalers.html
22:52 BotSteve Title: Wholesale High Power Green Laser Pointer 200MW 500MW adjustable star burn match +Li ion Battery+charge
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23:04 * Yrouel 'night
23:31 JA12 dangerous and useless
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23:39 Ponko hey guys
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23:41 Ponko lwq1996 HighMan skype?
23:41 lwq1996 in a min i can
23:41 HighMan Nahh :P
23:41 HighMan I haven't been on IRC... Been addicted to mc :P
23:41 Ponko lol
23:41 Ponko it's on xbox now
23:42 JA12 not only dangerous but also ironic http://img.alibaba.com/img/pb/828/695/372/372695828_747.jpg
23:42 HighMan No xBox lol
23:44 Ponko where's tehdark?
23:45 lwq1996 off masturbating in a corner probably
23:45 Ponko lol nice
23:46 lwq1996 OMG I DIDNT SEE THAT WANNABE LOGGED IN
23:47 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
23:52 lwq1996 HighMan!!!!!!! SKYPE NOW
23:52 HighMan No! :P
23:53 HighMan Maybe tomorrow :D
23:53 lwq1996 ass hole
23:53 HighMan :P
23:54 Ponko we need you man
23:56 lwq1996 .c 100f to c
23:56 BotSteve 37.7777778 degrees Celsius

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