Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-03

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00:04 wannabe1987 yay naps.....going back to nap now
00:06 dbshortwave k
00:15 Thermoelectric Exam study... So much fun...
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00:49 BitViper http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-18-Baker-Perking-Grade-2-Titanium-Centrifuge-/330738109629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d01870cbd muahahahahahaha, TGG needs to get this, remove the centrifuge basket and such, replace with rotor and horn from air raid siren O_O
00:49 BotSteve Title: S-18 Baker Perking Grade.2 Titanium Centrifuge | eBay
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00:55 tehdark45 BitViper, that's so affordble, you should buy it
00:56 BitViper yeah, just pocket change *cougH*
00:57 Carvagon lol
00:59 Damianz That could make cleaning coins easy
01:00 BitViper ooooooooo
01:01 Carvagon they should just get a dryer, line it with foam, gallon of water, 30 minutes on tumble and done
01:01 Carvagon and could clean alot more at a time
01:02 BitViper just a 50 gallon drum and a motor
01:02 tehdark45 garrys mod is all you need
01:02 BitViper LOL
01:03 tehdark45 an exploding oil drum and the motor tool
01:03 tehdark45 and smartsnap obviously
01:06 Ycarene_ Anyone know of a modern browser that'll work in windows for workgroups?
01:06 tehdark45 Ycarene_, why??????
01:06 BitViper *bites tounge*
01:06 Carvagon brb have to hook up another pc
01:07 Ycarene_ For tinkering sake, no practical reason, because I want to.
01:08 Ycarene_ My guess is probably no, but it was a question worth asking.
01:10 tehdark45 lynx?
01:13 dbshortwave ?.?
01:19 dbshortwave http://imgur.com/uFSbr
01:19 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
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01:47 BitViper Egads! Just "woke up" from reading a book. Had been so deeply engrosed in book that local 'reality' had vanished. Haven't done that in at least a decade, likely a couple.
01:51 Cprossu .seen wannabe1987
01:51 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw wannabe1987 1.79 hours ago at 2012-06-03 00:04:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:51:52 UTC
01:53 * BitViper waves at Cprossu
01:54 Monkeh|Lap Don't do that, you'll scare him off
01:54 BitViper lol
01:54 Monkeh|Lap The Cprossu is a shy beast
01:56 Cprossu hey BitViper
01:56 Cprossu what's up
01:56 Cprossu I'd ask what's cooking but I just cooked me some noodles & stuff
01:56 BitViper not much, up, or cooking
01:56 Damianz Stuff sounds tasty
01:57 BitViper you got the internet stabalized yet at the lab ?
01:57 Cprossu it is. Rotini with garlic, oregono, butter, olive oil, and basil.
01:57 Cprossu BitViper it should be more or less
01:57 Cprossu I didn't find the parmasean anywhere here if we have it
01:57 Damianz Did you bribe a comcast director?
01:57 Cprossu so I couldn't make my alfredo
01:57 Cprossu no bribes. lots of ass reaming though
01:58 BitViper ewww, hope you wore gloves
01:58 Cprossu double layers.
01:58 BitViper lol
01:58 BitViper sounds like prior experience
01:58 Cprossu and I needed to order the big ones they use for cows and horses.
01:58 BitViper ROTFL TMI
01:58 Damianz You should get some of those big black gloves they use in chem labs.
01:59 Cprossu waste of money
01:59 Cprossu it was shit I was dealing with, not hydrofluoric acid
01:59 Monkeh|Lap Try HV gauntlets
02:00 Cprossu good way to make a pair smell like ass
02:00 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Better than how they smell melting when you use 'em wrong.
02:01 Damianz hydrofluoric acid could make the shit dissapear quickly
02:01 Ycarene_ Isn't HF actually a bit weaker  than expected?
02:01 Damianz It's rather scary when you see somene melt thought 3 pairs of those things under a fume hood.
02:02 Cprossu http://www.animalmedic.com/products/6146462.JPG
02:02 Cprossu these'd make a good gag gift though
02:02 Ycarene_ still very very dangerous, no doubt, but not as chemically strong as the difference between HBr and HCl?
02:03 Cprossu well either way
02:04 Cprossu it took a week and a 3 ring binder filled with data
02:04 BitViper wow
02:04 Cprossu I stopped short of getting a AT&T quote and emailing it to the business lead.
02:04 Cprossu that was next.
02:05 Cprossu with a email subject of "Fix it."
02:05 BitViper gotta love such people, its never "their fault"
02:06 Cprossu I don't care who's fault it is.
02:07 Cprossu but it's their obligation to fix it regardless  of who's at fault ;)
02:07 BitViper the trick is getting them to acknowledge that
02:07 Cprossu that trick took 6 truck rolls plus two line tech rolls
02:07 BitViper so what was the ultimate problem ?
02:08 Cprossu plus a complete rewiring of the lab
02:08 BitViper besides idiocy
02:08 Cprossu I never got a full answer from anyone high up, but I do know the issue
02:08 tehdark45 Cprossu, 3 ring binder means nothing. was it a 1,2,3"?
02:09 Cprossu 1.5" :)
02:09 tehdark45 full?
02:09 Cprossu double sided pages
02:09 BitViper customers that take notes are dangerous :)
02:09 Cprossu 1/2" or so of docs
02:09 tehdark45 at leasy it wasnt a cisco manual
02:09 tehdark45 least*
02:09 Cprossu which was more than enough
02:09 Cprossu to prove a point
02:10 Cprossu anyway it was about 100 little things, and one semi-large thing
02:10 Cprossu all their lines.
02:10 tehdark45 it the littile things that break the shit
02:10 tehdark45 lol
02:11 Cprossu but that didn't stop me from making them run an indoor cable run in the thick rg-11esque sized outdoor rated cable straight into the NOC with only 10' of it being outdoor ;)
02:12 Cprossu the way I got that done was my 'alternative' was they run a tap into the building
02:12 BitViper lol
02:13 Cprossu they should be good on that cabling for at least 5 years.
02:13 tehdark45 5 isnt very long
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02:13 BitViper by that time everything will be fibre ... except for comcrap
02:13 Cprossu I generallty take the low end
02:14 tehdark45 BitViper, no, laser
02:14 Cprossu but yeah I take the low end when I am predicting failures
02:15 technowizard i have a 1400 volt, 10 uf capacitor ,,, what could i do with it?
02:15 Cprossu certainly that line will outlast the 2 cable modems
02:15 tehdark45 those are some shitty modems
02:15 tehdark45 :P
02:15 Cprossu tehdark45: three letters. SMC.
02:15 tehdark45 lolz
02:16 Cprossu so like I said, the line will outlast the modems
02:16 tehdark45 Shitty Micro Components
02:16 technowizard hey Cprossu did they do anything special for Chris' birthday?
02:16 Cprossu I have no clue
02:16 tehdark45 real ISPs use Motorola
02:16 Cprossu I wasn't there today, kinda a shitty day weather wise
02:17 Cprossu tehdark45: I like mots. I brought in a sb5100 to use even =P
02:17 tehdark45 Cprossu, you dont need weather, you are the comuter guy
02:17 Cprossu they won't do it.
02:17 tehdark45 :P
02:17 technowizard his birthday was thursday
02:17 tehdark45 do you have DOCSIS 3 at least?
02:18 Cprossu anyway for static ip's they won't let you use any modem but their own piece of shit netgear and SMC shit boxes.
02:18 Cprossu yeah we're on docsis 3
02:18 technowizard mot means something besides microwave oven transformer?  what is mots in this context?
02:18 Cprossu using modems that don't offer a bridge mode.
02:18 tehdark45 motorola
02:18 Cprossu mot = short for motorola
02:18 technowizard oh ok
02:18 technowizard learn something new every day :)
02:19 Carvagon who is the phone service thru
02:19 Cprossu since I was being lazy. your lack of understanding easily defeated the gain from not explaining myself fully at least 100 fold
02:19 tehdark45 I am talking to you through a SB. u jelly Cprossu
02:19 tehdark45 :{
02:19 tehdark45 :P*
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02:20 technowizard how recently did jelly become a synonym for jealous?
02:21 Carvagon we got around using comcast's crap by getting voice and internet.   idiots had no idea we took their crap modem out and put in our own
02:21 Cprossu wow my connection sucks. technically though tehdark45 I am talking to you through a surfboard too
02:22 Cprossu Carvagon: they try and charge you rent for it?
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02:23 Joe248 hello
02:23 Cprossu howdy
02:24 technowizard .wa wimhurs machine
02:24 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
02:24 technowizard man .wa
02:25 Carvagon nope.  i told them their stuff was a piece of crap and i was putting my own on gave them the serial number they logged it and set it up for me lol
02:26 Cprossu somehow I think you mean a wimshurst machine @ technowizard
02:26 Carvagon so now I have a mot instead of the junk they sent.  i think it was a netgear
02:26 Cprossu are you running a static ip Carvagon?
02:27 Carvagon i believe so.  im not a network guy.  but yes i believe so 5 of them
02:28 Cprossu well you would know.
02:28 Cprossu because it needs manual configuring all the way around
02:28 Cprossu esp if you bridge it
02:29 Carvagon i didnt set it up so im not sure.  all i know is we arent using their equipment
02:29 technowizard thanks yep
02:29 technowizard found plans  http://steampunkworkshop.com/how-build-wimshurst-influence-machine-part-1
02:29 BotSteve Title: Jake's Wimshurst Machine and How to Build It! (Part 1) | The Steampunk Workshop
02:29 Cprossu fair enough.
02:29 Cprossu just know that I tried on multiple occasions to do exactly that
02:29 Cprossu but they would only do it if I dropped the statics and went dynamic only
02:30 Cprossu I am sure they are fully capable of doing it
02:30 Carvagon comcast is horrible here
02:30 Cprossu but they would not register the cable model knowing I had static IP's on the account
02:30 Cprossu *modem
02:30 Carvagon anything they can do to not have to send somebody out they will
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02:31 Cprossu well anyway
02:31 Cprossu I am just happy we're reliable now
02:31 Carvagon yeah thats a good thing
02:31 Cprossu still there's a few hiccups here and there but meh
02:31 Cprossu it was a whole lot worse
02:32 Carvagon lol be lucky ur service isnt dropping 12 times a day like mine
02:32 Carvagon but i think that might be router issues
02:32 Cprossu we had a good 4 hour block of dead-intermittent-packet loss
02:32 Cprossu every single day
02:32 Cprossu and the way their policies were
02:33 Cprossu they had to have a succession of people note the issue before they could act upon it
02:33 Cprossu 4 hour time frame for the base level tech to roll
02:33 Cprossu then another 2-3 hours for the line tech
02:33 Cprossu problem was gone and written off as not a problem by then
02:34 Cprossu no matter what I could not simply have a line tech dispatched
02:35 Cprossu I finally found out the rest of the underlying issues during an outage in which I actually walked the coax from power pole to power pole to the neighborhood node @ 9th street and alpine
02:35 Cprossu where a line tech was trying to diag an intermittent unrelated to me
02:35 Cprossu but obviously completely related ;)
02:36 Hackbat welp, I know why my bed isn't soo comfortable anymore
02:36 Carvagon lol obviously.  comcast here will automatically call u when their service is down and if its more than an hour you get next month of service for free
02:36 BitViper Cprossu : doh! LOL
02:36 tehdark45 Hackbat, what did you do
02:36 BitViper Carvagon : i wish i could get that with my isp ... would never have to pay for service again
02:37 Cprossu rusty springs can be terrible if you haden't had your tetanus shot =P
02:37 Hackbat Welp
02:37 Carvagon lol.  we had an outage for 11 hours and they refunded the last payment and the following month we werent charged
02:37 Hackbat my bed was made in 1998
02:38 Hackbat I got it when I was 6 or 7
02:38 Carvagon but im assuming thats because we are on business class and have voip with them
02:38 Hackbat It's 14 years old :\
02:38 technowizard bed frame right? newer mattress?
02:38 Hackbat no
02:38 Hackbat Matress is 14 years old
02:38 technowizard dude, does it sag?
02:38 Hackbat nope
02:39 Hackbat just is really really flat
02:39 Hackbat Well that's expected from a 14 year old I suppose
02:39 technowizard and full of millions of dust mites that go who knows where on your body when you sleep
02:39 Hackbat oooooooh
02:39 Carvagon lol
02:39 Hackbat they eat all my skin cells!
02:39 Hackbat yay
02:39 * Cprossu wonders which matress 'weight gaining formula' not pedeled by the matress companies is correct
02:40 technowizard i thought it would sag like grandma titties man
02:40 Hackbat it was a decent matress
02:40 Cprossu the matress companies would rather you believe that your matress doubles it's weight every 2 weeks =P
02:40 Carvagon lol ur bed weighs as much as a buick now
02:40 technowizard if the weight came from your sweat they could splice into the weight loss business
02:41 Hackbat god I'm strong
02:41 Hackbat just lifted a buick
02:41 Carvagon lol
02:41 technowizard yes but smell isn't everything ;)
02:42 technowizard i am thinking of making a whimshurst  machine from an old bike maybe
02:42 Hackbat I mean this matress had like 4-5 years of people jumping on it, and 9 years or so of puberty and man sweat
02:42 Hackbat suprise it isn't biodegrading
02:42 Hackbat *suprised
02:43 Carvagon lol ur matress is a truck stop bathroom
02:43 Hackbat How dare you call me a whore >:C
02:43 Carvagon lol
02:43 technowizard man puberty deposits ... let the aliens take it to find some seed of life and make them cross breed lizard men
02:44 technowizard echhh sorry that was really gross
02:44 Cprossu well I am outa here my connection is bouncing off of one too many cars
02:44 Cprossu to be reliable
02:44 dbshortwave have a good one Cprossu
02:44 Cprossu you too :)
02:44 Carvagon later
02:44 BitViper later Cprossu
02:45 Carvagon Bitviper, I don't like this test u have givin me lol
02:45 dbshortwave man i wish i have more of this cloth coated wire
02:45 BitViper Carvagon : lol ;)
02:45 BitViper are you learning 3d ? :)
02:46 Carvagon lol no but i am learning how many russians are using it and making tutorial vids for youtube
02:46 BitViper LOL
02:48 technowizard youtube education ... home of 'i saw it done once from a distance and sort of understood it, so i am qualified to post a video teaching others how do to it' ...
02:49 technowizard some vids are like that and some are legit, you tell them apart usually
02:50 BitViper Carvagon : what software are you using, thought you was mostly familair with it
02:51 BitViper thougt you was using acad
02:51 Carvagon the key is search by an obscure tag only someone using the software would know.   works every time
02:51 Carvagon Bitviper, I am familiar with the MEP side of the software but not teh architectural side
02:51 BitViper thats always the trick with searching ... selecting the proper search terms
02:51 BitViper ah
02:52 BitViper Carvagon : yet :)
02:52 Carvagon correct :P
02:54 Carvagon lol it wont benefit me but will be fun to learn
02:56 BitViper dont speak that "wont benefit me" too soon, have found many MANY times in my life where things that I encountered in past and dismised were VITAL to some situation or learning years later
02:58 BitViper i have long (like since was able to think of such things) been of the opinion that failure to learn at every opportunity is to fail at life, period
03:00 Carvagon the only reason i say that is i should be working on a big project for work right now lol and this part of the software wont benefit me on that lol
03:00 Carvagon i draw random stuff all the time lol ill just be able to do it in 3d now lol
03:00 BitViper meh, short view useless
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03:07 Leepod .seen wannabe1987
03:07 BotSteve Leepod: I last saw wannabe1987 3.05 hours ago at 2012-06-03 00:04:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:07:24 UTC
03:07 tehdark45 hi Leepod
03:08 Leepod Botsteve: tell wannabe1987 it's ok I'm still alive if your wondering. Just been busy all day
03:08 BotSteve Leepod: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
03:08 Leepod Hello tehark
03:09 Leepod Now I go to bed though. Super tired
03:10 tehdark45 O_o
03:10 tehdark45 it is not even sunday yet
03:10 tehdark45 are you ill Leepod
03:10 tehdark45 :P
03:11 Leepod No. Damn tired. Mowed 2yards today and went to town to get groceries that is 45min away
03:11 tehdark45 yeah cuse gorceries are so tiring
03:11 tehdark45 :P
03:12 Leepod No walking around a store for 2 hours is
03:12 tehdark45 2 hours?
03:13 tehdark45 slow
03:13 tehdark45 :P
03:13 Leepod We get a lot of groceries when we go
03:13 tehdark45 costco?
03:13 tehdark45 bulk?
03:13 Leepod I was about to buy a fishing rid
03:14 tehdark45 but then what?
03:14 Leepod Rod. No, Walmart. Disused m
03:14 Leepod Disided not too*
03:14 tehdark45 decided not to
03:14 tehdark45 :P
03:15 Leepod Shut up I'm tired. Night
03:15 tehdark45 bye lee
03:15 tehdark45 Carvagon, have you actually modeled shit before?
03:16 Carvagon yeah but its been awhile and not with this software
03:16 tehdark45 make super high res crap
03:17 Carvagon well yeah of course lol
03:17 tehdark45 animate it too
03:18 tehdark45 simulate decay too
03:19 tehdark45 i just gave Carvagon a project
03:19 tehdark45 :P
03:20 Carvagon lol i will combine that with Bitviper's project
03:20 tehdark45 BitViper, has learning calculus ever helped you? :P
03:21 tehdark45 lol
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03:26 tehdark45 oh noes a bill
03:26 producerBill-Pho I am rocking the geek NIKON tonight.
03:26 producerBill-Pho Fear me for I am ,,,, ,,,, um,,,,, a taco.
03:27 tehdark45 O_o
03:28 tehdark45 producerBill-Pho, if you were a taco, boden would fear you because Cory would eat you
03:28 producerBill-Pho Lol,, what you have never heard of fun.
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03:29 producerBill-Pho Cory eatting doesn't sound fun.
03:30 producerBill-Pho Me that is.
03:30 tehdark45 no its the aftermath that is the problem
03:36 wannabe1987 yay naps
03:36 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
03:36 BotSteve At 03:08Z, LeePod asked me to tell wannabe1987 it's ok I'm still alive if your wondering. Just been busy all day
03:37 tehdark45 hi wannabe1987
03:38 wannabe1987 just got woken up by a phone call.  gonna go drown my emotions in chocolate now
03:39 tehdark45 lol
03:39 tehdark45 is it melted?
03:40 wannabe1987 no but it could be
03:42 producerBill-Pho I am using Wisky
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03:52 wannabe1987 Cprossu were you looking for me?
04:00 astro73|roam_ .
04:00 tehdark45 its an astro!
04:00 astro73|roam just poking in
04:03 tehdark45 ow!
04:03 tehdark45 that hurt
04:03 tehdark45 :P
04:11 tehdark45 a
04:11 egrsteve b
04:13 tehdark45 c?
04:14 eadthem man nomatter waht i do  i cant seam to put enough load on this new computer to make more than 1 cpu core go over 800mhz
04:14 eadthem and none over 1.4ghz
04:15 egrsteve try this void main (void) while(1);
04:16 eadthem nope
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04:16 eadthem now if i ran say 12 copys  it might
04:16 tehdark45 eadthem, prime95
04:16 Toastdude Hi
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04:16 eadthem flash player  at 1040p = 5% cpu ussage
04:17 tehdark45 hi toast
04:17 egrsteve what type of system is this?
04:17 Toastdude Hi tehdark45
04:17 tehdark45 egrsteve, computer system, duh
04:17 tehdark45 :P
04:17 egrsteve more specific
04:19 eadthem amd phenom II X6 1045T, 16GB 13330 DDR3 (2x8) ram, opensuse 12.1 x64, radeon HD 6850, 2x 1TB RAID 1
04:21 egrsteve so just a little system
04:21 eadthem i can watch 1080P  but i cant download 1080P :p
04:21 egrsteve it happens
04:22 eadthem this system however  i can watch 360  if i dont do to much else
04:22 eadthem 63terragammaphi
04:23 eadthem now i need to load windows on the other 2 partitions
04:33 wannabe1987 praise him!
04:33 Toastdude wannabe1987: !
04:33 wannabe1987 hi
04:35 eadthem where do you get prime95 in RPM
04:54 tonsofpcs hi
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05:06 wannabe1987 hi tons
05:07 wannabe1987 and CaptainNiobe
05:07 wannabe1987 Carvagon*
05:07 CaptainNiobe hey wannabe :)
05:07 tonsofpcs of course bill disappeared....
05:07 wannabe1987 hi
05:07 CaptainNiobe wassup?
05:07 wannabe1987 not much.  accidentally your name
05:07 CaptainNiobe lol... it's ok...
05:08 wannabe1987 i want to make pb chocolate treats, but i need more butter and i need graham crackers :(  i do't like being broke!
05:10 * wannabe1987 can add jack of all trades and cat wrangler to her list of job duties
05:11 wannabe1987 i used a hammer and nail on the bottom of a pail to make drainage holes.  i wanted a drill to go with the drillbits, but couldn't find one
05:12 tonsofpcs you could use a bow...
05:14 Carvagon hey wannabe
05:14 wannabe1987 bow?
05:14 wannabe1987 and the cat was stupid, hiding in the basement, so i had to pick it up and stuff it in its crate (allergies!) and i got cat hair on my t-shirt
05:14 wannabe1987 at least the yard work went well, and the plant on the ground was *not* poison ivy
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05:17 wannabe1987 hi jess!
05:17 KawaiiJess Ohai
05:17 KawaiiJess I think Minecraft is down. :(
05:17 wannabe1987 whose server?
05:17 wannabe1987 one of ours?
05:17 eadthem well  prime95/mprime
05:17 KawaiiJess No, like Mojang
05:18 eadthem cpu was at 71f  now its at 135f
05:18 KawaiiJess Their Amazon servers or something
05:18 wannabe1987 i don't know then jess....
05:18 eadthem and its at 600% cpu ussage
05:18 wannabe1987 i don't minecraft
05:18 KawaiiJess I had no idea TGG had their own minecraft server
05:18 wannabe1987 .minecraft
05:18 eadthem well bout 580-595%
05:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: GuardianZozo's minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: DOWN
05:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
05:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: PacketHumper's minecraft server: minecraft.nerderosity.com:25565. Server Status: DOWN
05:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: BitViper's minecraft server: minecraft.bitviper.org:25565. Server Status: DOWN
05:19 wannabe1987 there you go jess.  four servers, 1/2 are up it seems
05:19 eadthem o  my power draw went from 140W to 273W
05:19 wannabe1987 nope. just one is up
05:19 eadthem total system draw
05:19 tonsofpcs bow, like from a bow and arrow (but not exactly)
05:20 KawaiiJess Ah, wannabe1987, I guess the Authorization servers are borked right now so logging in is spotty
05:20 tonsofpcs you loop the bow string once around the object that yyou would like to turn fast (the drill bit) and then you can draw the bow perpendicular to it to make it turn.  You can add a cup to hold the object to balance it
05:20 wannabe1987 i see.
05:20 KawaiiJess That's what's in the topic over in #minecraft on irc.esper.net
05:20 wannabe1987 however, i didn't have a bow string either
05:20 eadthem 140F
05:22 tonsofpcs (it's commonly used as a fire starting technique)
05:22 wannabe1987 ahhhh
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05:24 tonsofpcs http://www.newadventure.ca/welcome/12_bow_drill_427.jpg
05:24 wannabe1987 yay!
05:24 wannabe1987 Toastdude: look!!!!!
05:25 Toastdude Yay!
05:25 CaptainNiobe there we go, op flags are set on wannabe...
05:25 CaptainNiobe wannabe, i need you to test something please... can you +v someone? command is: /mode #thegeekgroup +v name
05:25 CaptainNiobe (i think i got that)
05:25 wannabe1987 thanks CaptainNiobe! :D
05:25 CaptainNiobe perfect. :)
05:25 wannabe1987 sorry hun
05:25 Toastdude Yay! It works!
05:25 wannabe1987 lol
05:26 wannabe1987 it does
05:26 Toastdude It's okay :P
05:26 wannabe1987 so i can ban tehdark45 now?
05:26 wannabe1987 :P
05:26 Toastdude Yes.
05:26 CaptainNiobe it's auto-ops too, so no need to worry
05:26 wannabe1987 sweet
05:28 Carvagon so now im not allowed to make wannabe mad?
05:28 wannabe1987 :shrug:  you haven't pissed me off yet
05:29 Carvagon key word "yet".  give it time lol
05:29 wannabe1987 :)
05:30 tehdark45 wannabe1987, CaptainNiobe told me the other day you have to be extremly bad to get banned :P
05:30 wannabe1987 you piss me off quite a bit somedays :P
05:30 CaptainNiobe when did i say that, matt? hmm?
05:30 wannabe1987 lol i'll just kick you
05:30 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, couple weeks ago
05:31 wannabe1987 waht, like druid? :P
05:31 tehdark45 basically
05:31 tehdark45 lol
05:31 tehdark45 so CaptainNiobe are you mad now that BitViper is the first op?
05:32 tehdark45 lol
05:32 wannabe1987 idk why bit is op
05:32 tehdark45 idk why you are op either ;P
05:32 wannabe1987 i know why i'm op....boden said so
05:35 tehdark45 from watch list to OP in 4 months
05:35 tehdark45 lol
05:35 CaptainNiobe tehdark45, why would i be mad? i'm curious as to who opped him, actually... lol...
05:35 tehdark45 prob zozo, he thinks hes cool
05:36 wannabe1987 no, zozo says he didn't
05:36 tehdark45 hmm
05:36 Carvagon no i think it was zozo
05:36 tehdark45 Carvagon, late
05:37 wannabe1987 i trust him when he says he didn't do it
05:37 Carvagon who else can give ops?
05:38 tehdark45 thermo
05:38 CaptainNiobe me, thermo and battie, i think... not sure about sero, he can +o, but idk if he can set flags
05:38 wannabe1987 mman45 can
05:38 wannabe1987 he has +o anyway
05:39 CaptainNiobe hmm... bit doesn't appear in the list of set flags...
05:39 Carvagon he got it on the lumineres night
05:39 Thermoelectric Been a while since I've messed with any flags...
05:40 CaptainNiobe i just set flags on wannabe...
05:41 wannabe1987 because CaptainNiobe is awesome, duh
05:42 tehdark45 why did it take so long for you to do it
05:42 CaptainNiobe that's info you don't need, tehdark45 :P
05:43 tehdark45 i am FBI, you must tell me your secrets
05:43 tehdark45 my badge number is 1337
05:43 CaptainNiobe there are laws against impersonating an official, you know :P
05:44 tehdark45 thats why i said my number was 1337
05:44 tehdark45 :P
05:46 tehdark45 also i'm in canada, they cant touch me
05:46 tehdark45 lolo
05:47 tehdark45 so coming to the us yet CaptainNiobe
05:48 Carvagon wow that was a waste of ten minutes looking thru logs
05:48 Carvagon lol
05:48 CaptainNiobe no idea when, tehdark45... got a lot of stuff to do in relation to it, so...
05:49 tehdark45 like acuire $$$$$$$$$$
05:49 wannabe1987 acquire*
05:50 tehdark45 meh
05:50 wannabe1987 maybe you sould acquire the english language....
05:50 tehdark45 wannabe1987, colour
05:50 tehdark45 cheque
05:50 wannabe1987 favourite
05:50 tehdark45 realise
05:51 tehdark45 also
05:51 tehdark45 zed
05:59 tehdark45 My favourite colour is red, so I used a cheque to buy a red shirt. When I got home, I realised it was green.
06:02 tehdark45 so how does op feel?
06:04 CaptainNiobe tehdark45: feels great! :P
06:05 tehdark45 cool can i have it then
06:05 tehdark45 :P
06:05 wannabe1987 noope
06:05 wannabe1987 nope*
06:08 wannabe-zz night all
06:08 tehdark45 bye wannabe-zz
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07:16 Electricguy morning Chipguy :P
07:16 Electricguy and all others
07:17 Chipguy morning
07:31 wannabe-zz http://perpustakaan.blogspot.com/2009/12/weird-and-cool-inventions-in-2009.html  why don't i have the toaster yet?
07:31 BotSteve Title: Weird and cool inventions in 2009 ~ Weird and wonderful news library
07:31 wannabe-zz hi guys
07:31 wannabe-zz o right, i went to bed....night :P
07:43 Thermoelectric *disappears and waits for connection to ping out*
07:46 Thermoelectric Mebeh not. Can't find that ADSL filter..
08:03 Electricguy do want! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261035253521
08:03 BotSteve Title: Amiga 1200 big tower infinitiv with fast ata gold | eBay
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08:28 FunkEngine Only if you're going to install a VideoToaster.
08:28 Electricguy or simply use the computer... :P
08:29 FunkEngine No, see, an Amiga without Toast is just another computer...
08:29 Electricguy it's AN AMIGA ffs :P
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08:30 Electricguy morning exp :)
08:30 FunkEngine You're proposing buying a DeLorean to just drive as a car and not glue BTTF bits into it.
08:30 Experimentonomen g'mornin
08:31 Electricguy if you buy a delorean, the first thing you do is to put a engine in it with some hp so it only doesn't LOOK like a fast car.. XD
08:32 FunkEngine Why does it need to go more than 88mph?
08:32 Electricguy the delorean got like 160hp in original..
08:32 Electricguy just silly :P
08:32 * Experimentonomen was up to 3am in the morning building this: http://i.imgur.com/dqG6j.jpg
08:32 Electricguy in a car made of stainless steel! it's heavy as fuck XD
08:32 Electricguy LOL exp :P
08:32 Electricguy why do you need so much solar panels? XD
08:33 Experimentonomen just bored ;p
08:33 Electricguy lol :P
08:33 Electricguy fair enough
08:33 FunkEngine There's also the inverse square law.
08:33 Experimentonomen atleast the MFSU's in there charge up to full in a matter on seconds :P
08:33 Electricguy :P
08:34 Electricguy yayy! today is an awesome class A day :D
08:34 Electricguy it's damn cold in my room XD
08:34 Experimentonomen i dident know u knew about industrialcraft :o
08:34 Electricguy is it hard to understand how to use it?
08:35 Electricguy cause the better than wolves mod is damn tricky...
08:35 FunkEngine Would you rather your room be 10 degrees too cold or 1 degree too hot?  I'd prefer the cold myself.
08:35 Experimentonomen look up divineagent on youtube, he has a lets play with industrialcraft
08:35 Electricguy i'd  probably have it 1C too hot.. :P
08:35 Electricguy as 1C is a piss in space :P
08:36 FunkEngine True, but I'm not a fan of sweating unless there's work being done.
08:39 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/fY9SH <-- a ugly little hut i also built yesterday
08:39 BotSteve Title: funwithindustrialcraft - Imgur
08:40 einball o7
08:40 FunkEngine `\o
08:41 Electricguy i suppose i need modloader to install industrialcraft
08:41 Experimentonomen divineagent has a video on that too
08:41 Electricguy mkay
08:41 Electricguy gonna try it out later
08:43 Experimentonomen http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Recipes_and_Resources
08:43 BotSteve Title: Recipes and Resources - Industrial-Craft-Wiki
08:49 Electricguy one step closer to become a droid.. XD http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=28924
08:49 BotSteve Title: View topic - Finished my Wearable project! • adafruit industries • Customer Support Forums, DIY Electronics, Open Source Hardware, Arduino
09:03 FunkEngine Didn't Steve Mann start out his whole wearcomp/eye-tap thing with photography equipment like light and exposure meters waaaay back at the beginning?
09:05 FunkEngine So my guess is the creator of that will reach the subdermal electrode stage in early 2015.
09:07 Electricguy no idea..
09:07 Electricguy but i really like the idea of wearable hacks and stuff :P
09:09 FunkEngine Yes, it did start out as photog gear. http://wearcam.org/steve5.jpg
09:10 Electricguy lol :P
09:10 Electricguy a helment with a viewfinder XD
09:11 Electricguy not all that compact and pretty in the early 90's.. :P
09:12 FunkEngine Still it was a wearable computer, in the early 90s.
09:12 Electricguy yeah :P
09:12 Electricguy i would totally use it if i had it :P
09:12 FunkEngine My circa 1997 laptop still weighed 9lbs and got about 70 minutes on a battery.
09:12 Electricguy XD
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09:13 FunkEngine ... and if I wanted to listen to MP3s, I could ONLY listen to MP3s.
09:13 FunkEngine good old P133. :)
09:13 Electricguy :P
09:14 Electricguy i got an old toshiba portege 3010CT running win98 that i kinda wanna do something fun with :P
09:14 Electricguy just for the heck of it :D
09:14 * Electricguy like old computers
09:15 FunkEngine Satellite Pro 430CDT here.  It still works.
09:16 Electricguy i got a satellite CT100 and a libretto 50CT too :)
09:16 Electricguy both works
09:16 Electricguy and then ye olde T5100
09:16 Electricguy and my mint condition Amiga A500 :3
09:17 FunkEngine I kind of want to snag a mini-IDE to CF card adapter and see how useful it is with a bigger "hdd" that's also faster and less power hungry.
09:17 Electricguy do it :D
09:18 FunkEngine I even managed to find a "port replicator" (desktop dock) for it on e-bay in like 2001 for $5.
09:18 Electricguy ooh. nice :D
09:18 FunkEngine which is funny because Toshiba wanted almost $900 just for that in 1997.
09:18 FunkEngine for a $1600 laptop.
09:20 Electricguy lulz XD
09:21 FunkEngine And the "well, businesses were the target" idea doesn't work, because it adds a Joystick port. :3
09:21 Electricguy HAHAH! XD
09:21 Electricguy fail!
09:22 Electricguy it's like this.. FAIL! XD http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WwGu0ip2CT8/TkIKlClMLCI/AAAAAAAAAGk/-NI72T2OYjw/s1600/sega-ad-1.jpeg
09:23 Electricguy again.. hardcore titles can be weird.. i'm currently listening to the DJ Hellfury - Fistfuck Canonisation 7 - Mental Pressure
09:23 Electricguy radio show... XD
09:26 Electricguy HAHAHA! XD http://existenz.se/out.php?id=56381
09:26 BotSteve Title: Natthumor! @ Existenz.se
09:30 Electricguy not sure if sex or just snow.. http://i.imgur.com/HkYLG.png
09:35 Electricguy INSANE photoshop skills! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H8wuiZNpmEQ/T8mlF5ZLfpI/AAAAAAAAF4k/Tom8IWRoP5E/s400/amateur_photography_05.jpg
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11:29 Sgt_Lemming just pulled off an awesome one in CS:S
11:29 Sgt_Lemming 6v6 and I got a team down with the TMP
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11:57 CaptainNiobe Sgt_Lemming: Counter Strike?
11:58 Sgt_Lemming Counter Strike Source
11:58 BitViper CaptainNiobe !!! g'mourning
11:58 Sgt_Lemming .w steyr TMP
11:58 CaptainNiobe ahh...
11:58 BotSteve "The Steyr TMP (Taktische Maschinenpistole/Tactical Machine Pistol) is a select-fire 9x19mm Parabellum caliber machine pistol manufactured by Steyr Mannlicher of Austria." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_TMP
11:58 CaptainNiobe morning, BitViper, how are you today?
11:58 Sgt_Lemming otherwise known as the squirt gun, as it has an insanely fast firing rate
11:58 Sgt_Lemming unfortunately it's also insanely inaccurate
11:59 CaptainNiobe lol... Lem, you need to move to america so you can have a gun :P
11:59 BitViper CaptainNiobe : scared, wannabe has ops O_O *hides*
11:59 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, it has crossed my mind
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12:44 einball salted popcorn is addictive!
12:46 CaptainNiobe einball, share! :D
12:46 * einball throws salted popcorn up in the air
12:46 CaptainNiobe OOHH! NOMNOM! *leaps after popcorn, managing to catch just a few mid-air*
12:50 * BitViper dives out of the way as CaptainNiobe lands
12:50 CaptainNiobe OH, AHHHH! *goes splat and bounces*
12:53 * BitViper dives out of the way again
12:53 * CaptainNiobe lands hard and cries
12:53 BitViper gotta work on that hang time, i was gonna go for an air mattress
13:04 * Experimentonomen waits for his batpacks to recharge so he can continue mining for resources
13:23 Sgt_Lemming tekkit?
13:27 exaem morning all
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13:39 mashpriborintorg hi all
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14:25 tonsofpcs we require more vespene gas.
14:42 * Electricguy just had coffee! :3
14:47 mashpriborintorg yay
14:47 Electricguy yepp :P
14:47 Electricguy whats up, mash?
14:48 mashpriborintorg nothing, boring sunday, no cb
14:48 Electricguy lol ok :P
14:48 Electricguy yeah.. :)
15:02 Experimentonomen well this has been a productive day, for 4 machines up and running and a partial solar power flower erected, but im off a for a few hours, dinner at uncles so i'll bbl
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15:03 Electricguy have fun exp
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15:17 Electricguy BALLS!
15:17 Electricguy we just missed a potential girl geek! D:
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15:18 mashpriborintorg they are quite rare btw
15:18 Electricguy no shit :P
15:19 wannabe-zz ...
15:19 wannabe1987 yes BitViper, i can de-op yo now :)
15:19 Electricguy yo bro! :D
15:20 dbshortwave morning
15:22 Electricguy evening
15:24 * BitViper looks at wannabe1987, sits in corner with hands in lap, looking as innocent as possible
15:24 wannabe1987 who gave you ops anyway?
15:25 * Electricguy cues Whistle.flac
15:25 BitViper sero did yesterday some ppl were pushing boundaries and i told em enough
15:26 wannabe1987 ahhhh.
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15:26 wannabe1987 hi!
15:26 wannabe1987 happy aniv, btw :)
15:26 Uhawl heyhey
15:26 Uhawl oh, thanks!
15:26 Electricguy greetings Uhawl :P
15:27 Uhawl How's it going?
15:27 dbshortwave op me see what happens
15:27 wannabe1987 it goes wellish.
15:27 wannabe1987 no dbshortwave
15:27 dbshortwave cause nothing will happen
15:27 dbshortwave im an op on other servers .. im like
15:27 dbshortwave neon
15:27 dbshortwave yeah neon
15:27 dbshortwave inert
15:27 dbshortwave <spelling>
15:28 wannabe1987 i cant....not w/o permission....don't wanna piss off the guy i sleep with ;P
15:28 Uhawl thanks for that visual
15:28 Uhawl lol
15:28 wannabe1987 no prob.  anytime, actually
15:30 wannabe1987 so whats new, Uhawl?
15:30 Uhawl nothing much, just chilling out before I have to go to work.
15:30 Uhawl you?
15:31 wannabe1987 just woke up....someone in the neighborhood is doing construction
15:31 Uhawl par for the course out there... The house are very close together.
15:32 dbshortwave YAY man i wish i had more cloth covered wire .. that stuff looks pretty when wireing up tube stuff
15:32 Electricguy it surely does!
15:33 wannabe1987 dbshortwave: i have my moms collection of embroidery floss here....want some? :P
15:34 dbshortwave lol get to weaving me some cloth coating XD
15:35 dbshortwave http://imgur.com/a/lOPVR#ZSzlw
15:35 BotSteve Title: amps - Imgur
15:36 wannabe1987 pay for it....
15:36 dbshortwave neh, i got it worked out, thanks tho
15:37 dbshortwave that the amp im working on BTE
15:37 dbshortwave BTW*
15:40 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell producerbill 50-100 ohms output impedance (mine is 67+-2), high impedance inputs
15:40 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when producerbill is around.
15:58 dbshortwave right on
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16:20 wannabe1987 weeeeee!
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16:21 wannabe1987 hi Chipguy
16:21 Chipguy hey wannabe1987
16:25 wannabe1987 hows you?
16:38 Chipguy tired
16:38 Chipguy hehe
16:38 Chipguy hauling stuff
16:39 Chipguy to make space for my gf moving in
16:39 Chipguy and you wannabe1987 ?
16:39 wannabe1987 just wakin up.  had a cinnamon roll for breakfast :)  how long you two been together?
16:40 Chipguy 2 years
16:40 Chipguy but you can not really say "together"
16:40 BitViper hey Chipguy you got enough room for all her toys ?
16:40 Chipguy she lives in England, i am in Germany
16:40 Chipguy yeah BitViper, she will have her own room
16:41 Chipguy mmmm cinnamon
16:41 Chipguy lecker
16:41 Chipguy now i want some
16:42 Chipguy hehe thanks wannabe1987, you just gave me an idea what to have for supper
16:42 Electricguy honk Chipguy :)
16:42 Chipguy hey electric
16:42 Chipguy hey electricguy
16:42 Electricguy :)
16:42 wannabe1987 you've been dating that long, so you've been together...:)
16:42 wannabe1987 o?  whats for supper?
16:43 Chipguy something with cinnamon
16:43 Chipguy gonna cook some milk rice
16:43 Chipguy i have milk that needs to be used by tomorrow cuz i will be out for a couple of days
16:43 Chipguy i have rice
16:43 Chipguy i like cinnamon
16:43 Chipguy and you just gave me the idea :)
16:44 wannabe1987 i don't have rice....i asked for some from the pantry this week tho
16:44 Chipguy yeah we are together irl since xmas 2010
16:45 Chipguy aww no rice :/
16:45 Chipguy i.e. dating irl
16:45 Chipguy and chatting since Feb 2010
16:45 wannabe1987 well, no quick rice.  i have the "takes-30minutes-to-cook" rice....but its not white and i like white rice :P
16:46 Chipguy aww
16:46 wannabe1987 yeah...plus someones phone was in the rice so idk if its good....
16:47 Chipguy eew
16:49 BitViper wannabe1987 : i can bring rice too
16:49 wannabe1987 :D
16:49 BitViper if the rice was just being used as anti-water and the phone was otherwise clean it should be fine
16:50 BitViper well, as long as phone-water was itself clean *cough*
16:50 wannabe1987 i dont know, she's a 21 year old who worked atba bar
16:50 BitViper BEER PHONE
16:54 Chipguy hmmmm
16:55 Chipguy when you cook the rice the germs will be gone
16:55 Chipguy but the poisen....
16:55 Chipguy hmmm
16:55 Chipguy wont risk that
16:55 wannabe1987 lol
16:55 BitViper ahhh but the poison is what makes it taste soo good
16:55 wannabe1987 i'll feed it to youthen, bit
16:56 BitViper i'll bring my own rice =P
16:56 wannabe1987 ok
16:56 BitViper will have to find and bring my rice pudding recipie too
16:56 wannabe1987 ?
16:56 Nazca hmmm, so Katers17 and smpfilms are doing a meet up in GR in a couple of weeks.... I think we need to get them to take a tour of the lab
16:56 wannabe1987 Nazca: who what?
16:57 BitViper ^^^ what she said
16:57 wannabe1987 i can send emails if need be
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16:57 Nazca two youtubers
16:57 wannabe1987 i see
16:58 wannabe1987 "server error in '/ets' application"  well fix it! I WANT THE JOB
16:58 Chipguy BitViper and wannabe1987 : do you really live near each other, i.e. in driving distance ?
16:58 wannabe1987 well, technically, yes
16:58 Nazca http://www.youtube.com/user/Katers17
16:58 BotSteve Title: Katers17 - YouTube
16:59 Nazca and http://www.youtube.com/user/smpfilms
16:59 BotSteve Title: smpfilms - YouTube
16:59 Chipguy technically
16:59 wannabe1987 we're a few hours apart
16:59 Chipguy sounds cool so far
16:59 wannabe1987 both in MI tho!
16:59 Chipguy aw
16:59 Chipguy hours
16:59 Chipguy ok
16:59 Chipguy still doable
16:59 wannabe1987 but he's coming back to the lab....
16:59 Chipguy how many miles ?
16:59 Nazca their main channels have 112k and 508k subscribers respectively
17:00 Chipguy ok rice is cooking
17:00 Nazca kate's daily's have 88k subs ... one of their other channels has 329k
17:01 Nazca and they're both geeky :p
17:01 BitViper Chipguy : im about 70 miles drive, 50 miles line of sight from the lab, about an hour drive
17:01 * Chipguy hugs wannabe1987 for the good idea with cinnamon
17:01 wannabe1987 :D  you're welcome
17:01 Chipguy BitViper and wannabe1987 : thats cool
17:01 Chipguy 70 miles yay
17:01 Chipguy not that far
17:01 Chipguy i will be driving 600 miles to pick my kitty up
17:01 BitViper current plans are im going down this friday for 2 weeks
17:01 Chipguy and same distance back
17:02 Chipguy oh cool
17:02 Chipguy 2 weeks stay yay
17:04 wannabe1987 means i have to put up with him for two weeks....
17:04 BitViper hey wannabe1987 if you see todd around let him know that i plan to be down there and that i wonder what the status of the new alpha signs is
17:04 BitViper ... put up with ... >.<
17:04 wannabe1987 ok...
17:06 Chipguy wannabe1987: put up ? ... nah.. you can enjoy him for 2 weeks
17:06 Chipguy he is a charming gentleman :)
17:06 wannabe1987 ............................
17:06 wannabe1987 so is zozo :p
17:06 Chipguy hmmmm k
17:07 * BitViper ?? charming ? gentleman ? O_O
17:07 Carvagon lol
17:08 Chipguy BitViper: you are not ?
17:08 Chipguy ok.... at least a nice guy
17:08 BitViper LOL
17:08 wannabe1987 Carvagon  when do you come?
17:08 Carvagon probably mid july
17:08 Carvagon for maybe 4 or 5 days
17:08 BitViper ok that i can buy Chipguy :)
17:09 Chipguy good :)
17:09 Chipguy phew
17:09 Chipguy :)
17:09 BitViper calling me charming or gentleman, true or not, would ruin my reputation :)
17:10 Chipguy oh
17:10 Chipguy ok
17:10 wannabe1987 what reputation?
17:12 BitViper exactly
17:16 Chipguy lol
17:17 wannabe1987 ....:P
17:22 tonsofpcs BitViper: then you should watch how to be a gentleman
17:22 dbshortwave woot
17:22 dbshortwave fin
17:23 BitViper tonsofpcs : lol, it'd never work for me, am not a social animal
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17:23 BitViper animal perhaps however O_o
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17:24 tonsofpcs BitViper: it's a comedy.
17:25 BitViper worse yet
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17:30 wannabe1987 i should be productive and actually wash my hair....
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17:31 wannabe1987 oh noes...its lee!
17:31 lwq1996 -.-
17:31 wannabe1987 hi hun :)
17:31 lwq1996 get my message last night?
17:31 wannabe1987 yes
17:31 lwq1996 didnt want you to think i was dead :P
17:31 wannabe1987 i was napping, thanks for it :)
17:32 lwq1996 i was up since 9 today! thats early
17:32 wannabe1987 .........
17:32 wannabe1987 i woke up 9 something to pee....but went back to sleep and woke up around 11 :P
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17:32 tonsofpcs I was up since 12 today! that's early!
17:32 tonsofpcs (yes, noon)
17:33 wannabe1987 how are you, lwq1996?
17:33 wannabe1987 and do you like my new status?????
17:33 lwq1996 im good
17:33 wannabe1987 not status on fb, b ut here....
17:34 lwq1996 sexy=slut, pretty=nice datible women
17:34 lwq1996 oh lol
17:35 Carvagon haha
17:35 lwq1996 i now see that wannabe1987 has ops :P. KICK ME BITCH!!!  JK :d
17:36 wannabe1987 lol
17:36 wannabe1987 yes!  it worked :D
17:36 Chipguy lol
17:36 Chipguy can you give it to me :P ?
17:37 wannabe1987 nope
17:37 Chipguy awwww
17:37 BitViper give him the boot ! LOL
17:37 * Chipguy has rice with cinnamon :)
17:38 BitViper or not, hits gf katzy would scratch me
17:38 BitViper *his
17:38 lwq1996 OHHHHH CAR SHOW TODAY, I MUST GO!!!!!!
17:44 lwq1996 mmmmm. mom made this spicy soup where it has chunks of dough in it
17:45 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/36902/time-x-money.html
17:45 BotSteve Title: Time X Money
17:47 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: reading the backlog, I just have to say, a rice cooker gives the most ROI of any possible kitchen appliance.   It takes normal rice (like the kind that comes in a giant sack) and water in, you plug it in and turn it on, and some time later you have delicious cooked rice.  I make rice for pretty much every dinner meal that I prep and cook (unless it's startch heavy to begin with).
17:47 tonsofpcs (3:1 cooked:uncooked volume, fancy rice at fancy market here is $3/lb, roughly 2.5 dry cups per lb = $1.2 per dry cup, $0.4 per cooked cup)
17:47 tonsofpcs (plain ol' white rice is ~$1/lb [not on-sale], roughly 2.5 dry cups per lb = $0.4 per dry cup, $0.133 per cooked cup)
17:48 wannabe1987 i found with my x's rice cooker the rice was too dry for me.....
17:48 wannabe1987 i like it a bit moist
17:48 tonsofpcs you could just put more water in
17:48 wannabe1987 it wasn't my cooker, i didn't mess with it....id on't have one, i was juts given a crock pot tho
17:49 * tonsofpcs needs a crock pot
17:49 tonsofpcs mmm... stew :)
17:49 wannabe1987 i have pork that needs to be used...
17:49 tonsofpcs crock-pot pulled pork!
17:50 wannabe1987 not enough pork for that....
17:50 wannabe1987 but i have ham roast....
17:50 tonsofpcs oh, well then I have no good ideas :)
17:50 wannabe1987 except teh zozo doesn't like teh ham
17:50 tonsofpcs teh ham is very unlikable.
17:50 lwq1996 going to go do something to burn off the soup. later!
17:50 wannabe1987 ok bye
17:50 tonsofpcs also, you could slice it up small and pan fry it and douse it in some sauce that will make him like it
17:51 tonsofpcs (or nom it all)
17:51 Damianz zozo should learn to like teh ham
17:51 wannabe1987 go tell him
17:51 * tonsofpcs dislikes teh ham but <3s teh taylor ham
17:51 tonsofpcs (mynd you, moose bytes kan be pretti nasti)
17:52 wannabe1987 lol
17:52 wannabe1987 our moose doesn't bite tho...
17:53 Damianz Everyone bites sometimes
17:53 tonsofpcs lol
17:53 wannabe1987 lol
17:53 tonsofpcs please tell me that someone got that reference...
17:54 tonsofpcs also, I needs to find something netflixy to watch since the cable is all screwy (rain fade)
17:54 BitViper *blank look*
17:54 dbshortwave x.x
17:54 Damianz Wth is the point of a rice cooker, it's a pan with some funy stuff to make it more expensive.
17:55 tonsofpcs Damianz: uh... my rice cooker cost like $8
17:55 tonsofpcs my pans cost a lot more than that.
17:55 BitViper Damianz : and thats the whole point
17:55 tonsofpcs even not-on-sale, my rice cooker goes for about $20.
17:56 Damianz Google says a rice cookier is about 15-20£
17:56 tonsofpcs also, since it's sealed, it keeps the rice moist after cooking; some people will just leave rice in the cooker and take it as needed
17:56 tonsofpcs oh, right, UK, add 50% to everything because you have no giant industry :)
17:57 Damianz Not really an expensive pan buyer though hmmm, tend to buy knives over pans.
17:57 tonsofpcs even a cheap pot that can cook 4 cups of rice costs $20....
17:58 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: yes, i did....i got your reference
17:58 tonsofpcs thank you :)
17:58 tonsofpcs now I'm hungry and I think I'm gonna go try making mac'n'cheese in my rice cooker
17:58 wannabe1987 ...
17:59 Damianz lol
17:59 Damianz I do eat a lot of rice though I've been lazy recently.
17:59 wannabe1987 you'll turn asian soon, its ok
17:59 Damianz Asians don't eat piggy so I'm fine
17:59 tonsofpcs heh
17:59 tonsofpcs hmm... rice cooker pasta seems too much effort *goes to clean a pot*
18:00 Damianz I really want a slow cooker so I can put stuff on before leaving work and have food when I get back from work hmmm
18:00 wannabe1987 thats why i got one, Damianz
18:00 tonsofpcs Damianz: you could get a rice ccooker and a slow cooker and have rice with your slow stuff
18:00 wannabe1987 o right
18:00 wannabe1987 i have dried beans....do i soak them in water overnight to use them?
18:01 Damianz Either that or use a preasure cooker.
18:01 wannabe1987 don't have one
18:02 Damianz Depends what type of beans but most want at least 4-8 hours then
18:02 wannabe1987 great northern
18:02 tonsofpcs eww, beans
18:02 wannabe1987 its for white chicken chili
18:02 wannabe1987 now, black beans are nasty
18:04 wannabe1987 BitViper: you're not allergic to any foods, are you?
18:05 lwq1996 starting to rain so i came in
18:05 lwq1996 twss
18:05 wannabe1987 its all sunny here :)
18:06 BitViper wannabe1987 : alergic not that i know of, am picky though
18:06 Damianz It's horrible here which sucks because I wanted to go climbing today.
18:07 wannabe1987 but hamburger/chicken/tuna helpers are ok?
18:07 wannabe1987 install an indoor climbing area........
18:07 Damianz If I owned my house I so would but my landlord would have a fit
18:07 BitViper wannabe1987 : selected hamburger helper, not so much chicken/tuna
18:08 BitViper only known alergies : sunlight, work, women
18:08 BitViper oh, and bullsh**
18:08 Damianz I'm only alergic to idiots - they cause me rage.
18:09 Damianz Hmm I need food and then to tidy up so I can get around to actually moving to my new house.
18:10 wannabe1987 BitViper: we can make our own, with pasta and beef and seasonings
18:10 wannabe1987 i only have almost every seasoning
18:11 Damianz I tend to just throw spices on everything lol
18:11 BitViper O_O
18:11 BitViper me too Damianz
18:11 wannabe1987 i think....its arts and crafts time at the lab today :D
18:11 Damianz Pasta + paprika + soy sauce = food
18:11 BitViper open cupboard, pick random handful of spices ...
18:12 wannabe1987 except....i hope girlgeek isn't locked
18:12 BitViper but i mostly use lemon pepper
18:12 wannabe1987 i dont' have that one, sadly
18:13 BitViper how can you not have lemon pepper ?
18:13 wannabe1987 by not buying it
18:13 BitViper minor issue
18:14 wannabe1987 i have hot glue gun plus glue, paint, needles, LOTS of embroidery floss, wire.....paintbrushes....
18:14 BitViper sounds spicy :)
18:14 wannabe1987 gonna need cardboard to set things on so i don't glue it to the table....
18:14 wannabe1987 lol
18:16 tonsofpcs Damianz: saffron + rice = food ;)
18:18 wannabe1987 the prospect of being crafty has me excited....i think i need to get out more
18:19 tonsofpcs note: it's sunday afternoon and we're discussing food on IRC.  I think we all need to get out more. ;)
18:19 BitViper ut oh
18:20 wannabe1987 whats wrong with food????
18:22 tonsofpcs I don't have any to eat.
18:22 tonsofpcs well, I do, just not what I want right now ;)
18:23 tonsofpcs there's a greek festival across town that has gyros but idk if i'll end up going or not... it's raining and apparently you have to walk 0.5 miles from parking to get there
18:23 wannabe1987 Cprossu are you trying to drive me crazy?!
18:23 wannabe1987 theres festival of the arts downtown i wannago but food is $$$ and i have 1/2$
18:26 tonsofpcs do you have a 'festival season' out there too?  there's like at least one every other weekend around here... went to my first (the greek fest) on friday for lunch
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18:33 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: summer = festival season
18:33 wannabe1987 (sorry, went to the lab)
18:34 wannabe1987 theres the dandiloion festival in borculo
18:34 wannabe1987 they even have a parade
18:35 einball http://frupic.frubar.net/shots/25697.jpg
18:35 einball fuck yeah :D
18:36 BitViper imo that says more about the prof's than the students
18:36 einball :D
18:41 Damianz tonsofpcs: Safron is expensive but I do love paella
18:42 tonsofpcs Mind you, I have never paid for saffron.
18:42 tonsofpcs (I has connections :D)
18:42 wannabe1987 weeee hot glue!
18:42 Damianz lol
18:42 wannabe1987 smells great
18:43 Damianz I tend to buy spices in like 1/2kg bags because I use so much of it lol
18:43 Damianz <3 living around the corner from a chinese supermarket
18:43 tonsofpcs I have a bag of saffron in my cabinet that started out the same size as those large shakers of spices we get at supermarkets...
18:44 wannabe1987 never used any
18:45 tonsofpcs it's now about the size of two large patties of butter
18:45 tonsofpcs .wa saffron cost
18:45 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
18:47 wannabe1987 wanna bet how many times i'll burn myself with glue today?
18:47 BitViper all of them ?
18:48 wannabe1987 ?
18:48 wannabe1987 all the times?
18:48 BitViper yep
18:48 Damianz With glue?!
18:48 wannabe1987 i haven't yet *jinx*
18:48 Damianz I thought you where using a gluegun
18:48 wannabe1987 hot glue, Damianz
18:49 tonsofpcs zero.  you'll burn yourself with the metal tip of the 'glue' gun
18:49 wannabe1987 yeah....hot glue gun....
18:49 Damianz Yeah
18:49 tonsofpcs anyway, saffron is the opposite of rice on the "cost per food" tree.  Rice is $0 per LOTS, saffron is $LOTS per 0.
18:50 Damianz The horrid 2 part glue that's stinky chemicals is the stuff you don't want to burn yourself with
18:51 wannabe1987 oooo its a 7 sided coin
18:59 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: before or after stomping?
18:59 wannabe1987 its never been stomped, its from haiti
19:04 Damianz I can't help but think thumber would make an awesome ring launcher
19:05 Damianz s/thumber/thumper/
19:05 Damianz Thumber could be a whole other thing....
19:06 wannabe1987 omni is here /;0
19:06 wannabe1987 :)*
19:07 wannabe1987 "theres an angel in her mind!"
19:09 dbshortwave it would yeah but can you imagine the coil for that ?
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19:31 Experimentonomen back
19:33 einball Why are emos always cutting edge?
19:34 Damianz ....
19:35 einball I have no damn answer to that! They all die before they tell me!
19:35 * Damianz covers einball in cutting lube
19:36 einball :)
19:38 Experimentonomen kinky
19:43 dbshortwave they are always the firs tto diiiie
19:44 wannabe1987 my fingers are purple
19:44 wannabe1987 yay paint
19:45 BitViper no spilling paint
19:45 einball zerg rush at google search :D
19:46 wannabe1987 its on a plate, bit
19:46 wannabe1987 i'm using drews desk :D
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20:04 tonsofpcs is omni painting?
20:05 wannabe1987 no?
20:08 wannabe1987 y do you ask?
20:09 tonsofpcs cus you're painting and omni is there
20:09 wannabe1987 no, she's upstairs
20:10 Cprossu omni is very sad today for some reason (whimper whimper whimper)
20:10 Cprossu I tell you no one ever pets that dog!
20:12 wannabe1987 i petted her!  i have proof!  (allergic reaction)
20:12 BitViper omni will like me coming back then, i'll pet and snuggle her
20:19 tonsofpcs everyone pets theat dog....
20:20 wannabe1987 yep
20:22 wannabe1987 does anyone know who st1dinoh is on the youtube comments for the geek group videos?
20:22 Electricguy no idea
20:31 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/rdd88.png
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20:37 DeKemp hi
20:37 wannabe1987 hi
20:37 DeKemp grats
20:37 wannabe1987 watch out for the shadows, they bite :)
20:38 wannabe1987 sorry, dr who.  someones in my library!
20:45 lwq1996 wannabe1987: http://www.ohmypictures.com/peek-a-boop_1189.html
20:45 BotSteve Title: Peek-a-Boop! - Oh!!! My Pictures
20:45 wannabe1987 how are you, DeKemp?
20:45 DeKemp im fine
20:46 DeKemp and you
20:46 wannabe1987 alright
20:46 wannabe1987 there is paint all over my fingers
20:47 DeKemp what did yo dou
20:47 wannabe1987 i'm painting puzzle pieces to sell on my etsy at some point
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20:47 DeKemp ah, never heard of etsy
20:48 wannabe1987 http://www.etsy.com/shop/wannabe1987
20:48 BotSteve Title: wannabe1987 on Etsy
20:48 wannabe1987 thats my shop
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20:51 DeKemp http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2159431/cadee3d7/suicide_rus_doet_een_burnout.html
20:51 BotSteve Title: dumpert.nl - Suicide Rus doet een burnout
20:52 einball nom
20:52 einball water melon
20:52 wannabe1987 yumi want some
20:53 tonsofpcs oo, I has 3/4 of a watermelon in the fridge still...
20:53 einball :D
20:53 wannabe1987 ....
20:53 wannabe1987 jealous
20:53 einball tonsofpcs: good nom
20:53 DeKemp i have 0/0 of a watermelon in my fridge
20:53 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: how dare you sell reasonably priced items on etsy! :-p
20:54 wannabe1987 lol
20:54 tonsofpcs DeKemp: error, overflow
20:54 DeKemp hue
20:54 wannabe1987 i'll even ship to foreingn contries, i just need to know which one so i can price
20:55 DeKemp why whould soneone buy a key on a chain?
20:55 wannabe1987 because it looks cool
20:55 einball NOM
20:56 DeKemp maby if it was a AES 256 bit key :P
20:56 tonsofpcs (really, most things on etsy are things made by artsy people priced about $5000 above where they should be)
20:56 DeKemp lal
20:56 wannabe1987 lol i know...its crazy stupid
20:56 wannabe1987 not mooses things tho!
20:57 tonsofpcs DeKemp: maybe wannabe1987 could find some Core memory for attaching to a necklace and store a key on it for you?
20:57 wannabe1987 core memory?
20:57 DeKemp feride bead
20:57 DeKemp http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/snyder/coremem.jpg
20:57 tonsofpcs it's a bunch of little toroids on a mesh that have bits stored in them by flipping
20:58 wannabe1987 ooooo
20:58 tonsofpcs so you write to it by applying a ton of voltage in a particular direction
20:58 tonsofpcs (relatively)
20:58 DeKemp reluctance
20:59 tonsofpcs http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/core.html
20:59 BotSteve Title: Core Memory
21:00 tonsofpcs I have a friend with a module that I think is from the 2361...
21:00 Electricguy core memory is cool :P
21:00 DeKemp the appolo guidence computer had it
21:00 Electricguy the pdp8's got it too :)
21:00 Electricguy quite a big stack
21:00 DeKemp oh, that was rope memory
21:01 tonsofpcs http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/pdp-11/core.html < here we go, how it works :)
21:01 BotSteve Title: Core Memory
21:02 DeKemp hardwring software....
21:06 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Core1.jpg << tiny core (16x16cm overall)
21:06 BotSteve Title: File:Core1.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:06 tonsofpcs [ok, that's still probably a bit big for being on a chain]
21:08 wannabe1987 bling!
21:09 tonsofpcs http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-UNIVAC-Computer-Ferrite-Core-Memory-Plane-4K-Bits-1960s-/221040379492?_trksid=p3284.m263&amp;_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D200612691642%26ps%3D54 < better picture
21:09 BotSteve Title: Vintage UNIVAC Computer Ferrite Core Memory Plane - 4K Bits - 1960's | eBay
21:10 wannabe1987 no thanks, i'm not buying that
21:10 wannabe1987 wonder if we have any here
21:11 wannabe1987 Zozo: do you know if we have any here?
21:12 DeKemp the lab has one
21:12 DeKemp it came with the viewermail
21:12 BitViper i thought id seen one somewhere
21:12 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: I didn't expect you to buy it, just a better pic
21:12 tonsofpcs I found someone selling off small cores, you could easily weave your own with magnet wire
21:12 wannabe1987 i c
21:12 DeKemp maybe the meuseum
21:13 wannabe1987 yeah, i'm not going into the museum, i won't come out alive (theres no lights)
21:13 tonsofpcs http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-RAW-FERRITE-CORES-FOR-CORE-MEMORY-BOARD-NIB-/310404176047?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item484587d8af
21:13 BotSteve Title: VINTAGE RAW FERRITE CORES FOR CORE MEMORY BOARD NIB | eBay
21:14 DeKemp it's a thing
21:15 wannabe1987 it is a thing...
21:15 wannabe1987 right now my other things are drying....why does paint take so long to dry?
21:16 DeKemp you should watch it
21:16 tonsofpcs it's the corollary to murphy's law.
21:16 tonsofpcs (a watched pot never boils.)
21:16 wannabe1987 i am watching it and talking to you guys.
21:16 wannabe1987 watched paint doesn't dry?
21:17 BitViper it dries, but takes 10 times longer
21:17 wannabe1987 fine...
21:17 * wannabe1987 gets out the legos
21:19 tonsofpcs http://www.ebay.com/itm/USSR-Soviet-Russian-Military-Magnetic-Ferrite-Core-Memory-museum-or-diy-projects-/150824071414?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&amp;hash=item231dd0b0f6 looks to be the cheapest and possibly easiest to segment into smaaller parts.
21:19 BotSteve Title: USSR Soviet Russian Military Magnetic Ferrite Core Memory museum or diy projects | eBay
21:21 Chipguy bedtime nite all
21:21 wannabe1987 night
21:23 Chipguy :)
21:24 DeKemp also http://www.voordeelverpakking.nl/opendir/campzone.jpg
21:27 DeKemp Come vist the netherlands in the summer! http://www.campzone.nl/event-info/what-is-campzone/
21:27 BotSteve Title: What is CampZone?
21:27 DeKemp biggest outdoor lanparty in the world
21:29 Electricguy SO TRUE! http://www.quiterly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/My-room-600x312.jpg
21:31 DeKemp 72F C.
21:31 DeKemp .C 72F
21:32 DeKemp how dos steve work
21:32 Electricguy .c 72F to C
21:32 BotSteve 22.2222222 degrees Celsius
21:32 DeKemp ah
21:34 DeKemp music time  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UbUWdWEOzM&amp;feature=related
21:34 BotSteve Title: Nightwish - I Wish I Had An Angel (Live At End Of An Era) - YouTube
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21:36 tonsofpcs DeKemp: pay for me to attend :)
21:37 DeKemp :P
21:37 DeKemp its 299 euros :P
21:37 JA12 nightwish - 10th man down
21:38 DeKemp but i get my money refunded
21:38 wannabe1987 hi JA12
21:38 DeKemp becaus i'm voulnuteering
21:39 JA12 hi wannabe
21:39 tonsofpcs DeKemp: I'll volunteer if you pay my flights [although it might be too late for me to get time off and get a visa to attend this year... might need to be next year]
21:50 JA12 my guess is that dbshortwave works at the airport
21:52 tonsofpcs JA12: why?
21:52 JA12 because the quit msg and his nick
21:52 JA12 body scanners, you know
21:52 tonsofpcs uh...
21:53 tonsofpcs yea, not explaining that one.
21:53 wannabe1987 no
21:53 JA12 too far fetched?
21:53 tonsofpcs but I'm pretty sure that he doesn't.  (If you really want, I can drive to the airport and check)
21:54 DeKemp lal tonsofpcs
21:54 tonsofpcs DeKemp: what, it's only 1.5 hours from here, per google maps...
21:54 JA12 and it was meant as a joke, not that I know where he works or would even care
21:54 tonsofpcs I was playing disc golf past it last weekend :-p
21:56 DeKemp im not paying your ticket
21:56 wannabe1987 lol he's coming here after his vacation, tonsofpcs, you can meet him here :)
21:56 DeKemp why would you need a visa if its 1.5 hours away
21:57 tonsofpcs DeKemp: the airport near dbsw is 1.5 hours away.  I'm in NY.
21:57 DeKemp ah
21:57 DeKemp but the flight is like 10 hours :P
21:57 tonsofpcs (and I'd probably fly from KJFK or KEWR)
21:57 tonsofpcs what's the nearest airport?
21:57 DeKemp here?
21:57 tonsofpcs ya
21:58 tonsofpcs well, to the campsite
21:58 DeKemp eindhoven
21:58 DeKemp at 2 km :P
21:58 tonsofpcs know the ICAO code?
21:58 DeKemp http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1185513081.jpg this close
21:58 DeKemp eheh
21:59 tonsofpcs that's awesome.
22:00 DeKemp no us destinations
22:00 tonsofpcs that's horrible.
22:00 tonsofpcs transfer at heathrow?
22:00 DeKemp i will probberly fly via germany
22:00 DeKemp its cheaper to fly from germany to amsterdam and than to us
22:00 DeKemp instead of amsterdam us
22:00 DeKemp strange
22:00 wannabe1987 how much will it cost you to fly to here?
22:01 DeKemp 600-800 euro's
22:01 tonsofpcs the subsidization of flights in the US is silly and makes minor itinerary changes cost differ greatly
22:01 DeKemp return ticket
22:01 tonsofpcs for instance, a few years ago I flew KBGM > KPHL > KLAS.  Just flying that same exact KPHL > KLAS flight in the same exact seat would have cost more.
22:02 tonsofpcs but KEWR > KLAS the next year was cheaper than either of those two.
22:03 DeKemp where i live, most people depart from EDLW isntead of EHAM
22:03 wannabe1987 your fancy codes mean nothing to me unless you use kgrr
22:03 DeKemp :P
22:03 DeKemp edlw  dortmunt
22:03 wannabe1987 DeKemp: sometimes its cheaper to fly to chicago and be picked up....
22:03 DeKemp eham amsterdam
22:04 tonsofpcs (BGM = Binghamton, PHL = Philadelphia, EWR = Newark)
22:04 DeKemp lal  grandrapids chigago is like crossing half of the netherlands :P
22:04 tonsofpcs LAS = LAS Vegas McCarran
22:04 tonsofpcs DeKemp: crossing half? more like driving around all-of ;)
22:05 tonsofpcs (there's a lake in the way)
22:05 DeKemp grandrapids = detroid then
22:05 tonsofpcs that said, KORD (Chicago O'Hare) is a HUGE airport and anything through there is bound to be cheaper
22:05 wannabe1987 yeah....
22:05 tonsofpcs might be cheaper to fly to KORD then KORD to KGRR
22:05 wannabe1987 if its cheaper to be picked up (figuring in gas costs) we can arrange with moose/boden a pick up trip....
22:05 wannabe1987 i'm sure road trips with boden are a hoot
22:06 tonsofpcs heck, maybe even cheaper to fly to KORD then take a cab across town to Midway (KMDW) and fly KMDW to KGRR
22:07 DeKemp http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5308
22:07 tonsofpcs (not sure if there actually are such flights, just pointing out the sillyness)
22:07 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:07 DeKemp comperison
22:08 tonsofpcs more like http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5309 from CHI
22:08 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:08 Electricguy bedtime! night all :P
22:08 DeKemp nn
22:08 DeKemp fap ze
22:08 wannabe1987 night
22:08 DeKemp you see the link.
22:08 DeKemp netherlans is tiny
22:09 DeKemp it can fit in michigan
22:09 wannabe1987 THE MOTHERLAND
22:09 DeKemp :D
22:10 DeKemp http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5310  :P
22:10 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:10 DeKemp the vilage i was borne, compered to grandrapids
22:11 tonsofpcs DeKemp: this is what I drove to get to the lab: http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5311
22:11 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:11 DeKemp lal
22:11 tonsofpcs (alternatively: http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5312 )
22:11 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:11 wannabe1987 how many people live in  your village?
22:12 DeKemp 700
22:12 DeKemp now i live in a town
22:12 DeKemp whith 60.000 :D
22:12 DeKemp Actualy it's a city
22:12 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doetinchem
22:12 BotSteve Title: Doetinchem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:13 DeKemp *56.000
22:13 DeKemp lal tonsofpc
22:13 DeKemp thats like driving to poland or italy
22:13 tonsofpcs and this is how I'd get to KJFK: http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5313
22:13 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:14 tonsofpcs it's almost London to Paris!
22:14 DeKemp here trips of 2 hours or more are long
22:15 tonsofpcs I didn't say it wasn't long
22:15 tonsofpcs it was a 12 hour drive to the lab.
22:15 DeKemp lal.
22:15 tonsofpcs but it's a lot shorter (and cheaper) than flying
22:15 DeKemp train?
22:15 tonsofpcs I wish.
22:15 DeKemp we use the train ALOT!
22:15 tonsofpcs they stopped offering travel service along the NY/PA border region many years ago
22:15 DeKemp after byciles offcorse
22:16 tonsofpcs they recently pulled out the second set of tracks (it's still used for commercial freight) so now even if tehy wanted to start it up again, it'd be REALLY hard...
22:16 DeKemp why would they pull it out
22:17 DeKemp its steel. won't happen anything to it if you kept it there
22:17 tonsofpcs because the freight trains can stop on sidings and such to be passed and it's cheaper to remove than maintain, apparently
22:17 tonsofpcs well, they need to maintain the embankment that the steel sits on...
22:17 tonsofpcs ever heard of a little train company called "Erie Railroad" or "Erie Lackawana" perhaps?
22:17 DeKemp nope
22:19 tonsofpcs well, they were HUGE, named Erie because they connected Lake Erie to the New York City area.  their 'main' line is what became the commercial passage through here, it's also what I grew up a mile away from back near NYC... they still offer commuter service about this far out (wait, drawing map):
22:19 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Railroads_Netherlands_2011.svg :D
22:19 BotSteve Title: File:Railroads Netherlands 2011.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:21 DeKemp traveling 12 hours.. we only do that if where goint on holyday by car
22:21 tonsofpcs http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5314
22:21 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:22 tonsofpcs they offer _commuter_ service (like, you hop on a train in Port Jervis the morning and hop off right next to NYC) on that route.  The line continues past there along the NY/PA border all the way to lake erie area where it rejoins the Amtrak line which goes further north through NY and does have passenger (holiday, not commuter) service
22:23 DeKemp kru
22:23 DeKemp *ke
22:23 wannabe1987 my fingers turned blue
22:24 DeKemp stop biting them
22:24 wannabe1987 its also red, green pink, and purple :P
22:24 tonsofpcs stop playing with the rainbow!
22:24 tonsofpcs I would love rail service though, DeKemp :)
22:25 wannabe1987 but they're fun!
22:25 DeKemp whe realy a lot on public transportation
22:25 tonsofpcs http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5316 is the whole traditional/merged Erie/Lackawana 'main' line
22:25 BotSteve Title: MAPfrappe - Move Outlines
22:25 wannabe1987 public transportation?  whats that?!
22:25 DeKemp without. it would be one large gridlock
22:26 DeKemp http://www.tozai.nl/www.tozai.nl/www/images/20287_22_113.jpg
22:26 tonsofpcs (it actually went much further later, there's some shortcuts in that that were taken from Lackawanna when Erie merged wth them, but it's basically still the 'main line')
22:26 DeKemp thats a railroad
22:26 tonsofpcs yes, yes it is
22:26 tonsofpcs I'm sure you could ride on a train continuous from NYC to california if you wanted, I'm not sure that there's continuous passenger service though
22:27 wannabe1987 i think there is....
22:27 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amtrak_System_Map.svg
22:27 BotSteve Title: File:Amtrak System Map.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:27 wannabe1987 rocky mountians hae passenger trains
22:27 DeKemp here you can cross the whole country by train
22:27 wannabe1987 pardon my typing....
22:27 wannabe1987 wet paint
22:27 tonsofpcs ^^ That's the Amtrak system.  I'd call it a 'holiday' railway, their prices are competitive with airlines, not with commuter services.
22:29 DeKemp http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2077281/687ab9a0/the_againman_presents_the_again.html from 1:00 its ''english''
22:29 tonsofpcs if you notice, the amtrak system exists at both ends of that line I just drew on the map.
22:29 BotSteve Title: dumpert.nl - The Againman Presents the Again
22:29 DeKemp agian  translatse to weather in dutch
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22:29 DeKemp *again
22:30 tonsofpcs we have a ton of railways throughout the US, but they're all owned by different companies.  Amtrak actually leases a lot of its right-of-way (either as a leasee or leasor)
22:30 DeKemp here they are owned by 1 or 2 company
22:30 tonsofpcs I mean, the major ones are all just a few companies (Amtrak, CSX)
22:31 DeKemp the infastructure like the rails and power is owned by prorail
22:31 tonsofpcs but, especially around cities, shorter railways are owned by local groups
22:31 DeKemp but several company's us it for ther services
22:31 DeKemp NS, Ariva, Syntus
22:32 tonsofpcs so between Port Jervis and NYC, you ride on rails owned by CSX, Metro North, NJ Transit, and Amtrak.  You would ride a train operated by Metro North or NJ Transit and, because you bought your ticket for an endpoint in NY, you would have a ticket from Metro North...
22:32 tonsofpcs (that's a relatively rare special case though)
22:33 DeKemp here you dont'but tickets annymore
22:33 tonsofpcs (Amtrak owns the tunnels between NJ and NYC, CSX [I think]] t
22:33 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-chipkaart
22:33 BotSteve Title: OV-chipkaart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:33 DeKemp whe have smartcards for thad
22:33 tonsofpcs (Amtrak owns the tunnels between NJ and NYC, CSX [I think] owns the trackage into/out of Port Jervis, and NJT/MN have an agreement on that line)
22:34 tonsofpcs that line has paper card tickets.  Some stations still require a 'conductor' to check your ticket after you board, some have electronic turnstiles.
22:35 DeKemp here the tickets are all done by 1 company
22:35 DeKemp electronicly
22:35 DeKemp it's a fail system
22:35 DeKemp and cost us tax payers way to much
22:35 tonsofpcs they're the size of a credit card, tickets are printed by a vending machine but you could get single-use tickets or 'weekly' or 'monthly' tickets
22:36 DeKemp here also
22:36 DeKemp a whole variaty of tickets are availabe
22:36 tonsofpcs the TVM system is wonderful, albeit a bit of an added cost per ticket.  It used to be that the conductors would take money and give change to every passenger after boarding
22:36 DeKemp from single to memberships
22:36 tonsofpcs and in doing so, they had these GIANT cardstock tickets that they punched holes in
22:37 tonsofpcs reading those tickets was an artform :)
22:37 tonsofpcs oh, and it was cheaper to travel from (example) Ridgewood to Hoboken (with a transfer) to Montclair than Ridgewood to Hoboken and Hoboken to Montclair
22:38 DeKemp :S
22:38 Damianz We have electronic gates but still have conductors so you end up getting your ticket out 3 times a journey :(
22:38 tonsofpcs because you paid for the number of 'zones' you were traveling between and the zones were numbered from hoboken (end of the line), so going from zone 5 to zone 7 (via zone 12) was cheaper than zone 5 to zone 12 to zone 7....
22:38 DeKemp we alsow have conductors in the train
22:39 DeKemp small stations have no gates
22:39 DeKemp only the large ones
22:39 tonsofpcs DeKemp: yea, same with this one
22:39 tonsofpcs Damianz: this line's trains have little tabs to hold your ticket (they used to put paper slips in them and mark how many people in the row paid)
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22:41 tonsofpcs so when I visit home, I take a train from NY Penn Station to Secaucus, it's a 15 minute journey, so I just walk in and stand in the mid-car vestibule (both stations have raised platforms, we have stairs at the ends of cars with traps above them) and stick my ticket in the little clips that they have placed there (they expected this, so the posters in the vestibule have them at the bottom) and take a standing nap ;)
22:42 DeKemp i once had a black out in a overcrouwd train. i could se nothing but was not uncounces
22:42 DeKemp that was scary
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22:42 DeKemp *unconscious
22:42 tonsofpcs *tries finding a picture of one of the clips*
22:43 tonsofpcs http://newprovidencedailyphoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/195_traininteriors_port_jervis_line_interior.jpg
22:43 tonsofpcs you can see some of them clipped
22:44 DeKemp lal
22:44 DeKemp so people can steal them form sleeping people
22:45 DeKemp is it the train tickets themselfs?
22:47 DeKemp ?
22:48 Carvagon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QiOAg_Caig&amp;feature=player_embedded
22:48 BotSteve Title: Kinetic Sculptures - YouTube
22:49 DeKemp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSKyHmjyrkA  thats kinetic
22:49 BotSteve Title: Theo Jansen's Strandbeests - Wallace & Gromit's World of Invention Episode 1 Preview - BBC One - YouTube
22:49 DeKemp Dutch ftw
22:51 DeKemp tonsofpc, ar those tickets?
23:01 tonsofpcs sorry, back now, had a call from the boss
23:02 tonsofpcs DeKemp: these days, for single use tickets that don't transfer, the ticket itself gets put there after gettign punched and torn, otherwise a small strip of paper goes there from the conductor marking 'paid' so that other conductors know.
23:02 DeKemp aha
23:02 tonsofpcs Trains with a single conductor they often won't even put them out since they're trained (and amazing at it, btw) to recall who gave/showed ticket, who didn't.
23:03 tonsofpcs the really old cars (originally purchased by erie, actually) have this kind of ticket holder instead of a little metal flap: http://newprovidencedailyphoto.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/195_traininteriors_oldbrown.jpg
23:04 tonsofpcs people that have monthly tickets and the like sometimes will leave their tickets up there (inside flip-out wallet type things) until the conductor comes by to check them.
23:05 tonsofpcs but most people with monthly tickets ride the same trains every day with the same conductor and basically just have to flip open their fold on the first few days of the month to show that theey bought it (the color and reflective parts change each month)
23:06 tonsofpcs it's very much still a the-conductor-rules-all business in areas where conductors collect tickets and, even in places where there's a turnstile to enter, the conductor can still ask you for your ticket at any time and throw you off at his perogitive.
23:09 DeKemp im goint to sleep
23:09 DeKemp bye bte
23:09 DeKemp *bye
23:15 eadthem i cant beleve pepole obsess over having large amounts of video ram
23:16 BitViper large video ram == gamer or video processing, not much else
23:16 eadthem i rememberd reading someones post somwehere last week  about how they were choosing a card with 1/3 the stream units because it had 2x more video ram and loling
23:17 eadthem ya well  even realy high end games dont use much vram
23:17 tonsofpcs BitViper: right, but more efficient use of VRAM by a better card produces better results
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23:17 tonsofpcs <3 the FireGL in the next room, btw :)
23:17 tonsofpcs it had "Z RAM"
23:17 eadthem add up the space all the textures consume that are currently on the screen   thats the most vram it could use
23:18 eadthem that accounts for other things not textures  as well
23:18 tonsofpcs (it had separate ram registeers for paging and such)
23:18 tonsofpcs eadthem: not exactly.
23:19 eadthem the textures are kept compressed in the card   by the time you add it all up  its relitvely a good estimate
23:19 tonsofpcs eadthem: raytracing rendering requires doing math for things that aren't actaully in the POV because they affect the POV.  Viscosity and such require more, etc...
23:19 tonsofpcs and for high end high quality high speed renders, I wouldn't keep textures compressed at all.
23:19 tonsofpcs That said, that's not what gamers want or need.
23:20 eadthem well render as in what duck dose  that i dont know about
23:20 eadthem just talking about games
23:20 tonsofpcs gamers want and need 'really fast' and 'good enough'
23:20 tonsofpcs crunch two quantized steps of black, they don't care, they can't see it.  Do that for a 3D render of mine and I'll curse the card.
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23:21 BitViper ^^^
23:21 tehdark45 !!!
23:22 tonsofpcs nVidia's "for gaming" accelerations started with "drop everything that's mostly black and paint it a bit brighter than black" and "don't antialias moving objects"
23:22 tonsofpcs that's what bought them the gaming market.
23:22 tonsofpcs meanwhile, AMD was doing math tricks that made them amazingly fast for high quality renders.
23:22 tonsofpcs this was almost 10 years ago though, idk the current state of optimization tweaks...
23:22 tehdark45 oh god i walked into a holy war
23:22 tehdark45 :P
23:22 tonsofpcs no
23:23 tonsofpcs we were just talking about VRAM requiremens
23:23 BitViper lol @ tehdark45
23:23 tehdark45 ah
23:23 eadthem tbh  i dont think compressing blacks and whites would help much
23:23 BitViper eadthem : sometimes yes, sometimes no
23:23 eadthem i mean that might help with texture size
23:23 eadthem but if you got the vram  then i cant see that helping
23:23 tonsofpcs eadthem: but when you look at a texture and decide that because it's light-hit % is less than a certain amount so you just don't render it at al....
23:23 eadthem o well that might
23:24 eadthem thats something i would call a bug
23:24 CaptainNiobe g'day, all
23:24 tonsofpcs that's basically what was happening, because you don't have to map a solid texture, you just paint it.
23:24 tehdark45 oh no. everyone, hide
23:24 tehdark45 :P
23:24 tonsofpcs even'n cap'nNiobe
23:24 tehdark45 hi CaptainNiobe
23:24 eadthem i mean if you say skip bumpmap on a ultra dark area that might be ok
23:24 BitViper there's soooooo many things about video rendering, wether its 3d ray trace, video, or gaming, that are all very circmstance dependant and different between each of the above
23:25 * BitViper waves at CaptainNiobe
23:25 tonsofpcs right.  See, if you said skip bumpmap on an ultra dark area in a ray trace for a render, I'd again be cursing you for ruining my render.
23:25 eadthem ya fine for games not for render
23:25 * CaptainNiobe waves back at BitViper - and suddenly remembers he ran over her in his marauder
23:25 tonsofpcs at 60+fps, you can skip bumpmap and texture map and just flood a mid-color or a partial (low res) texture and no one would notice
23:26 * BitViper hides behind tehdark45
23:26 * wannabe1987 gives BitViper her headache. here...its been bothering me all day....you can have it
23:26 tonsofpcs but if I'm taking that '60fps' and then tweaking the heck out of the 10bit or 12bit output, you better damn well give me all of that 10 or 12 bit precision :)
23:26 CaptainNiobe he wannabe :)
23:26 BitViper LOL @ wannabe1987, ok, you can have my back pain instead :)
23:26 tehdark45 BitViper, i'm only 5'7", duno how much help i will be
23:26 tehdark45 :P
23:27 wannabe1987 hi niobe
23:27 * tonsofpcs needs dinner
23:28 tehdark45 its the wannabe1987
23:28 tonsofpcs what? where?!
23:28 tehdark45 not sure
23:28 tehdark45 behind you?
23:28 BitViper look, over there >>>
23:30 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell dekemp http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6515910023_a226f83116_z.jpg is one of those paper stubs that the conductor would leave.  http://www.tomsimpson.org/images/ticket.jpg is the older kind of the same, http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4110/4969311044_df4fd7c8bd_z.jpg is a ticket.
23:30 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when dekemp is around.
23:37 tonsofpcs I think I'm ordering chinese food
23:38 tehdark45 send some here
23:38 tehdark45 :P
23:39 lwq1996 wannabe1987: can i have a piggy back ride? :P
23:39 BitViper you gotta supply the piggy
23:39 wannabe1987 NO.  i have a fucking headache
23:39 lwq1996 im fat enough :P
23:40 lwq1996 awe :(
23:40 tehdark45 lwq1996, give wannabe1987 some, be less fat
23:40 tehdark45 :P
23:40 tonsofpcs tehdark45: sure, send me your order and credit card number and I'll ask them to deliver
23:41 tehdark45 ok my cc number is 123456789101112131415
23:41 tonsofpcs CRC failed.
23:41 tonsofpcs also, 12 is an invalid start coe.
23:41 tonsofpcs *code
23:42 tehdark45 why?
23:43 lwq1996 1+1=3, only happens when you dong use a condom
23:43 tehdark45 also wannabe1987, do you realise you agreed to piggy back lee when you dont have a headache?
23:43 tehdark45 lol
23:43 tonsofpcs tehdark45: the start code is the issuing bank's id.
23:44 wannabe1987 no, i didnt.  i just said i have a headache.  i didn't say i would later. i'm *really* crabby.  STOP NOTIFYING ME
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23:45 tonsofpcs here, just order it yourself: http://www.moonstarac.com/
23:45 BotSteve Title: Moon Star
23:45 * BitViper hides
23:45 tehdark45 BitViper, she leftified
23:45 tehdark45 you can come out
23:46 * BitViper peeks out from behind tehdark45, oh whew, stinks back here
23:48 tehdark45 BitViper, that must be lwq1996
23:48 tehdark45 :P
23:48 JA12 it's dangerous to walk in tehdark
23:48 JA12 oops, typo
23:49 tehdark45 lwq1996, are you there?
23:49 lwq1996 fuck off
23:50 tehdark45 thats mean
23:50 lwq1996 seriously, fuck off
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23:52 * Damianz throws lemons at lwq1996
23:53 wannabe1987 tehdark45: you don't joke about weight.  i weigh about as much as lee, i can't lift anything over 60lbs (i can bearly lift my SISTER and she's 10...)
23:54 lwq1996 i can probably lift matt and throw him off my balcony
23:54 tehdark45 lwq1996, so you can lift 130?
23:54 lwq1996 actually yes
23:55 JA12 .c 130 lbs to kg
23:55 BotSteve 58.9670081 kilograms
23:55 lwq1996 got to restart computer
23:55 tehdark45 have fun with that

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