Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-04

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00:03 wannabe1987 BitViper: i didn't burn myself at all :D
00:04 Damianz We can fix that.
00:04 BitViper wannabe1987 congrats
00:05 wannabe1987 no thanks
00:06 tehdark45 why would you burn yourself?
00:06 BitViper anyone recommend a good, reliable, non-crooked, trustable, vps server host (not just web host)
00:06 tehdark45 or what would you do to possibly burn yourself
00:07 tehdark45 http://verytrustablevpsyesweare.com
00:07 Cprossu ^ put all those requirements together you get no one BitViper
00:08 BitViper Cprossu : pretty much what i figured. what comes closest ?
00:08 Damianz Personally I still like Linode but they are sorta expensive.
00:08 wannabe1987 hot glue gun
00:08 tehdark45 ah
00:08 tehdark45 it is quite hard to burn ones self with those
00:09 wannabe1987 ...
00:09 BitViper Cprossu : im super critical desparate, i am without dns, email, web, etc, etc, etc for over 2 wks now since my server host got fired from his job
00:09 Damianz ouch
00:10 tehdark45 BitViper, why not just buy a whole box?
00:10 Damianz That's why I have a mix of servers with different providers mashed together with binlog replication and gluster based storage.
00:10 tehdark45 rather than a vm
00:10 BitViper tehdark45 : i cant afford anything, a friend was hosting at his work with permission, but theyre restructuring and let him go
00:11 tehdark45 to what no it guys?
00:11 tehdark45 lol
00:13 BitViper good question, their stuff has gone to crap since he left, sorta like zozo's former employer did when he left
00:13 tehdark45 oh yeah they always release the guy who knows his shit
00:13 tehdark45 and leave  the moron
00:13 Damianz Normally that's because they bitch the most trying to fix stuff.
00:14 Damianz The morons just says yes and fail.
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00:14 BitViper or because the ones that know their shit cost too much
00:14 tehdark45 they are alot like traditional media
00:14 tehdark45 they cant see that this is how it has to go
00:15 tehdark45 they see $$$
00:15 JA12 they don't have a clue what it professionals do
00:15 tehdark45 not long run stuff
00:15 JA12 so it doesn't matter who does the best job because they don't know what the job is
00:15 Damianz There's nothing worse than a cheap tool as Cprossu fails to say :D
00:16 tehdark45 oh $50,000 is needed for new equiptment? we cant possibly afford that with our 1 kajillion dollar budget
00:16 tehdark45 Damianz, Cprossu just take the metophoric route
00:17 Damianz Some things just don't need metophors
00:17 tehdark45 im sure Cprossu could make 1+1 a college lecture
00:17 tehdark45 :P
00:21 Carvagon im supposed to be an IT guy and have no idea what im doing lol
00:21 JA12 you're doing it right then
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00:23 BitViper real it guys make it up as they go, but still manage to do it right
00:25 Carvagon lets put it this way lol my response to something not working is restart, unplug and plug back in or go to lunch and hope its workin when i get back lol
00:25 BitViper sounds about right, should cover most problems :)
00:27 Damianz Restarting treams symptoms not problems
00:27 Damianz s/treams/treats/
00:27 Carvagon lol i know i have a router dropping connection 12-15 times a day.  i get tired of unplugging it lol
00:29 Carvagon because i have no idea what the issue is lol
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00:31 tehdark45 wb lwq1996
00:32 lwq1996 shut up
00:37 BitViper is there a way to upgrade an ubuntu server directly from 8.10 to 12.4 ?
00:37 JA12 I'm surprised if there is
00:38 BitViper me to
00:39 JA12 iirc they do support upgrading from 10.04 which is still supported lts
00:43 BitViper stupid friend installed 8.10 on a box and expected me to just upgrade it ... *facedesk*
00:43 BitViper do-release-upgrade command fails probably due to not finding the relevant files on ubuntu servers
00:44 tehdark45 just fresh install
00:45 BitViper i dont have access to the machine, and he's aparently on the road
00:45 lwq1996 anyone ever use explosive lead cord as wire ties?
00:48 JA12 BitViper: you could install it from the hdd. I've not done it so I can't say how it works but this is what google told me first http://agnipulse.com/2011/08/install-ubuntu-hard-disk/
00:48 BotSteve Title: Install Ubuntu directly from hard disk | AgniPulse
00:49 tehdark45 lwq1996, why would you use a bendy metal as a tie?
00:50 BitViper JA12 : requires local terminal
00:50 JA12 BitViper: k. there goes that idea
00:51 BitViper isnt there a way i can manually change the apt sources and update, someone up there ^^^ mentioned it and ive done it in the past but dont know how and at the moment google isnt helping either
00:51 BitViper google hates me
00:52 tehdark45 lol
00:52 tehdark45 use bing
00:52 JA12 sure you can edit the sources.list in text and graphical mode
00:52 JA12 but
00:53 BitViper not a chance, actually have all ms stuff blocked at my router
00:53 JA12 I'm not sure how it's going to work because ubuntu hasn't been very good in dist-upgrades before
00:53 BitViper JA12 : yeah some work and others dont
00:55 JA12 on the desktop version at least
00:56 JA12 that's why I usually do a clean install. which isin't that bad because I have a separate /home partition
00:57 JA12 all my files and program settings stay there
00:57 BitViper if i was there thats what id do, but the machine is halfway across the country and the owner ... well ... *cough* he installed 8.10 ... nuf said
00:57 JA12 yeah sucks
01:01 JA12 speaking of "upgrades" I was bored yesterday and I made a new splash screen for gimp http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=32624 ^^
01:02 JA12 I made it in that gimp version. I used hellgate: london logo as inspiration, kb and mouse, two eyeballs, and one braincell
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01:29 st1y_wan_kenobi howdy everyone
01:31 wannabe1987 hi st1y_wan_kenobi
01:31 st1y_wan_kenobi hey
01:31 st1y_wan_kenobi hows everyone tonight?
01:32 wannabe1987 tired, its only 9:30pm
01:32 st1y_wan_kenobi i just got off work and it feels amazing
01:32 wannabe1987 what do you do for work?
01:33 st1y_wan_kenobi selling fireworks
01:33 st1y_wan_kenobi this time of year kinda sucks
01:33 wannabe1987 what state do you live in?
01:33 st1y_wan_kenobi i sell fireworks to people who sell fireworks... so there are a lot of orders coming in
01:33 st1y_wan_kenobi ohio
01:33 wannabe1987 where?
01:34 st1y_wan_kenobi michigan just went legal, and i'm in toledo
01:34 st1y_wan_kenobi you can imagine things are a bit nutty
01:34 wannabe1987 yes, i know we (i'm in MI) went legal...
01:34 st1y_wan_kenobi woot
01:34 st1y_wan_kenobi congrats
01:34 wannabe1987 i hear them alllll the time
01:34 wannabe1987 thanks
01:34 st1y_wan_kenobi i'm jealous as hell
01:34 wannabe1987 at least you're not in like mansfield/ashland....i lived there for a bit
01:34 wannabe1987 your name isn't roman, is it?
01:35 tehdark45 wannabe1987, lest go bowling
01:35 st1y_wan_kenobi nah, i'm not in toledo TBH, but nobody knows where the hell holland ohio is
01:35 tehdark45 :P
01:35 tehdark45 lets*
01:35 st1y_wan_kenobi no my name isn't roman
01:35 st1y_wan_kenobi lol
01:35 st1y_wan_kenobi but i know a dog named roman
01:35 wannabe1987 ok....that'd be weird.  he's on the outskirts of toledo.
01:35 st1y_wan_kenobi big giant bastard
01:35 wannabe1987 guy i used to know
01:36 st1y_wan_kenobi the odds of that are insane
01:36 st1y_wan_kenobi like getting hit by lightning while buying a winning lotto ticket
01:36 wannabe1987 yeah...
01:36 st1y_wan_kenobi what part of michigan?
01:37 tehdark45 thats like 0 as you are inside normally
01:37 tehdark45 grand radois
01:37 tehdark45 rapids*
01:37 wannabe1987 i am currently at the geek group labs
01:37 st1y_wan_kenobi cool, just shot a big fireworks show in stanton over memorial day weekend
01:37 wannabe1987 i know where that is.
01:37 st1y_wan_kenobi did you hear us :-)
01:38 wannabe1987 been there, mainly driving through
01:38 wannabe1987 no, its a bit far from me
01:38 tehdark45 i know where it is too, in stanton
01:38 st1y_wan_kenobi lol, mostly joking
01:38 tehdark45 :P
01:38 wannabe1987 about an hour and 15minutes
01:38 BitViper stanton ... MI ??? crap, my mom is there
01:38 wannabe1987 how did you find out about the geek group?
01:38 wannabe1987 lol
01:38 wannabe1987 also, one of our members is looking for a contact for fireworks....
01:39 wannabe1987 would you be able to help him out or not?
01:39 st1y_wan_kenobi i think i watched a "will it fry" BLSL and it was all downhill from there
01:39 st1y_wan_kenobi i would love to help
01:39 st1y_wan_kenobi best deal you'll probably ever get
01:39 * Damianz sits wannabe1987 on some gun power and makes a flying wannabe
01:39 wannabe1987 weeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:39 wannabe1987 *thud*
01:39 wannabe1987 crap.....that hurt.
01:40 wannabe1987 fuck landings
01:40 tehdark45 did it cure the headache though
01:40 wannabe1987 how did you find out about us, st1y_wan_kenobi?
01:40 st1y_wan_kenobi ^^^
01:40 wannabe1987 tehdark45: no
01:41 Damianz Drugs cure headaches
01:41 tehdark45 wannabe1987, "will it fry" BLSL"
01:41 st1y_wan_kenobi BLSL = before leanord (sp) street lab
01:41 wannabe1987 ahhhhh
01:41 tehdark45 the dark days
01:41 tehdark45 lol
01:41 wannabe1987 sorry, i didn't know what blsl meant....
01:41 Damianz The mohawk days
01:41 tehdark45 the duck days
01:41 wannabe1987 welcome, anyway
01:41 wannabe1987 DUCKY!
01:41 st1y_wan_kenobi here's a high def copy of the show my team shot in stanton last weekend...
01:41 st1y_wan_kenobi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5EMU33h_8g
01:41 Damianz He still gets ducks though :D
01:41 BotSteve Title: GLASS 2012 - 'Static Color' by Team Cosmic Debris - YouTube
01:42 tehdark45 Damianz, that is called trollin
01:42 wannabe1987 fireworks are prettier with the soud off :)
01:42 st1y_wan_kenobi lol
01:42 st1y_wan_kenobi CRANK IT UP
01:42 wannabe1987 no, dr who is playing
01:43 BitViper where in stanton did you shoot em from ?
01:43 st1y_wan_kenobi we tore the sky a new arsehole
01:43 st1y_wan_kenobi at the survivors club
01:43 wannabe1987 you know how hard it is to get good phtoos of fireworks?!
01:43 st1y_wan_kenobi those guys are cool
01:43 tehdark45 with the righ ISO it is easy
01:43 BitViper not familiar with it
01:44 BitViper i have a number of great fireworks shots. shot laying on my back almost directly under them
01:44 wannabe1987 oooo pretty sparkler ones!
01:44 BitViper (they were shot from perhaps 100 feet away from me)
01:45 st1y_wan_kenobi hey bitviper... check out MPAG (michigan pyrotechnic arts guild) and go to their shoots... you'll get all the practice you want
01:45 st1y_wan_kenobi those guys build and shoot shells the size of basketballs for fun
01:46 wannabe1987 ...
01:46 tehdark45 ???
01:46 BitViper nice
01:46 wannabe1987 wonder who does the sandy pines shows each year....
01:46 wannabe1987 for the 4th...
01:46 tehdark45 hoodlums
01:46 tehdark45 :P
01:46 wannabe1987 lol the 4th is in the middle of the week this year.....
01:46 st1y_wan_kenobi if you are still watching that show on youtube, we shot that whole show with electronic firing systems that are easy to build with simple parts
01:47 st1y_wan_kenobi some of the guys even build computer controlled systems with audrino's in them
01:47 wannabe1987 yeah,, i'm still watching
01:47 wannabe1987 sweet
01:47 st1y_wan_kenobi i pressed the buttons on some of those effects from the audience with a wireless remote
01:47 st1y_wan_kenobi ...
01:47 st1y_wan_kenobi with a beer in my hand
01:48 wannabe1987 of course
01:48 BitViper i love the little ones that look like antiaircraft fire
01:48 tehdark45 BitViper, terrorist!
01:48 tehdark45 :P
01:48 st1y_wan_kenobi i'd be happy to answer any questions if anyone wants to get into pyro, happy to share what i've learned
01:49 BitViper need to make those 100x bigger for the guy wannabe1987 was refering to earlier ... just 2 miles from the airport :)
01:49 st1y_wan_kenobi those are called "zippers" bitviper... opne of my favorite effects
01:49 wannabe1987 lol
01:49 Damianz It's the size that matters
01:49 wannabe1987 the green ones that go back and forth?
01:49 JA12 fireworks are great when they're not hitting my face 30 meters away
01:49 wannabe1987 i foudn those nifty
01:49 wannabe1987 well, no, JA12, get the hell away from them
01:49 st1y_wan_kenobi lol, funny you noticed those green ones... that was one of the effects i shot
01:50 BitViper only time ive got mad at fireworks was when I got attacked by several bottle rockets
01:50 st1y_wan_kenobi they are called crossettes
01:50 tehdark45 i will return later people, time for foods
01:50 st1y_wan_kenobi that was 36 shots of green crossettes, took 36 electronic matches to make that happen
01:50 JA12 wannabe1987: I have since. besides, real explosives are safer =)
01:51 st1y_wan_kenobi i need to come to TGG and trade pyro knowledge for C&C + plastic knowledge
01:52 BitViper ^^^ !!!!!
01:52 st1y_wan_kenobi want to make some pyro related tooling and start a business selling it
01:52 JA12 command and conquer
01:52 st1y_wan_kenobi generals FTW
01:52 wannabe1987 i'm sure moose and boden would love to help you out :)
01:53 st1y_wan_kenobi that would be amazing
01:53 Twiddlekins_ i miss fireworks.. dang laws
01:53 wannabe1987 come to merica!
01:54 Twiddlekins_ not that they really seem to make much difference :P
01:56 wannabe1987 same....we still heard all the bigger ones when there were laws
01:57 Twiddlekins_ just means they're A: sold by dodgy people, B: of questionable assembly, C: sold to any idiot no questions asked
01:57 st1y_wan_kenobi honestly it probably means that people just went out of state to where it's legal, then resold the stuff to make some extra cash
01:57 wannabe1987 yeah.....
01:58 st1y_wan_kenobi it's the mostly the same stuff that gets sold in legal states, just being sold in "enemy territory"
01:58 Twiddlekins_ i can kinda see some sense in the laws, our entire country may as well be made of gasoline in summer.. and sure some idiots lose a hand or two
01:58 st1y_wan_kenobi people die in car accidents too, we should ban cars
01:58 st1y_wan_kenobi they are dangerous
01:59 Twiddlekins_ give them time :P
01:59 st1y_wan_kenobi lol
01:59 BitViper im a fan of darwin
01:59 st1y_wan_kenobi no, no more time damnit
01:59 BitViper let the idiots purge themselves
01:59 st1y_wan_kenobi :-)
01:59 Cprossu st1y_wan_kenobi:did you mean 'command and conquer' knowledge? rofl
01:59 st1y_wan_kenobi it's like the intro to idiocracy
02:00 Twiddlekins_ i should just put my own together :P
02:00 * Cprossu thinks haas should start making 'C&C' machines
02:00 Cprossu it could be a hoot
02:00 st1y_wan_kenobi well sorta, that's fun too... but i was talking about the game, zero hour in fact
02:00 wannabe1987 ...
02:00 st1y_wan_kenobi just build self replicating nano bots
02:01 Cprossu I am from a state where party poppers were barely legal until recently lol
02:01 st1y_wan_kenobi gray goo sounds fun
02:01 JA12 I remember seeing fireworks for shotguns, they were great. everyone is drunk in new years eve, fireworks restrictions, gun law tightening because of shootings - I wonder why we can't get those slugs anymore
02:01 st1y_wan_kenobi ahhh, bird bangers, so much fun
02:01 st1y_wan_kenobi they were hard on barrels though
02:01 JA12 I haven't shot one myself sadly
02:02 st1y_wan_kenobi you can learn how to make them, real simple TBH
02:02 Twiddlekins_ airsoft is illegal here :P
02:02 Twiddlekins_ a real gun would make you satan
02:03 st1y_wan_kenobi those guns are dangerous
02:03 Twiddlekins_ i cant legally own something that can dent carboard, and yet i can legally own a compound bow that can put an arrow through a car :P go figure
02:03 st1y_wan_kenobi constantly jumping up off the table, loading themselves and shooting people...
02:03 st1y_wan_kenobi won't someone please think of the children
02:04 JA12 st1y_wan_kenobi: nah I don't try to make them. I don't want to take my chances with the police. if they get a reason to take my licence then I don't think I'm going to get it back
02:04 st1y_wan_kenobi if you live in the united states, it's perfectly legal if you do it right.
02:05 st1y_wan_kenobi you just have to use what you make that day
02:05 JA12 northern europe
02:05 st1y_wan_kenobi no storage, no transport
02:05 st1y_wan_kenobi ahhh, yeah yer screwed
02:07 wannabe1987 hmmm might be time to pack up, clean up, head home, make dinner....i'm starving, need to return cans, and i *still* have my headache
02:07 st1y_wan_kenobi well if any of you guys at TGG want to make the 2.5 hour drive down here for some fireworks, i'd be happy to help... just leave the cameras in grand rapids :-)
02:08 wannabe1987 well, i'd have to have gas money.  we'll see what happens with the lansing guys
02:08 st1y_wan_kenobi cool, just let me know. you can check out the website (from my email i gave you) to watch vids of stuff we sell.
02:09 JA12 there was a one shooting just recently. some guy stole his dad's two rifles and went on the roof in the town centre and started shooting people... our politicians answered the media that they're going to take that into account when they renew the gun laws, which are very strict already
02:09 Damianz Totally have to take the cameras
02:09 st1y_wan_kenobi no cameras
02:09 Damianz Cameras are fun
02:09 st1y_wan_kenobi cameras = retail, no cameras = one hell of a deal
02:10 wannabe1987 lol
02:10 st1y_wan_kenobi don't need the whole world thinking they can get that deal
02:10 st1y_wan_kenobi i like my job
02:16 st1y_wan_kenobi anyone else looking forward to game of thrones tonight?
02:17 st1y_wan_kenobi guess not
02:17 st1y_wan_kenobi lol
02:21 wannabe1987 no, i dont' have tv service
02:21 wannabe1987 sorry, i was washing my paint brushes and hauling things to my car
02:21 st1y_wan_kenobi torrents ftw
02:22 wannabe1987 not supposed to torrent at the lab
02:22 \_Obtuse I prefer Usenet.
02:22 wannabe1987 hi obtusebot
02:22 Obtuse hello
02:22 Monkeh st1y_wan_kenobi: Of course I am, it'll be ready to watch in about 15.
02:22 wannabe1987 is it another british show?
02:22 wannabe1987 Monkeh, why does sherlock only have 3 episodes a season?!
02:23 Obtuse and hello everybody
02:23 st1y_wan_kenobi no brit stuff, crazy medieval-ish war series.
02:23 Monkeh wannabe1987: Not exactly. And because.
02:23 Monkeh st1y_wan_kenobi: Uuhh.. not exactly.
02:23 st1y_wan_kenobi well sorta
02:23 st1y_wan_kenobi hence the "ish"
02:23 wannabe1987 awwww i like brit stuff as you say
02:23 st1y_wan_kenobi it's hard to explain
02:24 wannabe1987 I WANT MORE SHERLOCK
02:24 Monkeh st1y_wan_kenobi: And you'll find a lot of the actors are British. A _lot_.
02:24 st1y_wan_kenobi sure... nothing wrong with that... just saying that it's a US tv series, not a UK
02:25 Damianz <3 Sherlock
02:26 Obtuse Just another tv show to watch
02:26 Obtuse on a long list
02:27 Monkeh And that's Continuum.. Food time.
02:28 Obtuse I'm still behind on Dr. Who
02:34 JA12 I've been watching (British) tv show called 8 out of 10 cats. I think it's great. here's an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=Eo6mOhoyoJ0#t=100s
02:34 BotSteve Title: 8 out of 10 cats S08E06 2/3 - YouTube
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02:38 wannabe1987 yay home!
02:39 Damianz I've been here the whole time
02:39 wannabe1987 lol  im atmine now
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02:45 Cprossu home is nice
02:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Home is where the equipment-frying tesla coil isn't
02:49 Monkeh|Lap And now, to Westeros
02:50 Cprossu I don't know, the only piece of equipment I've had exposed to an equipment frying tesla coil survived it just fine
02:50 Cprossu now the equipment hulk smashing Boden(tm) is another story ;)
02:50 Cprossu @ Monkeh|Lap
02:51 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Pff, you haven't seen me get annoyed at something :P
02:51 Damianz lol
02:51 Cprossu you're neather at the lab or at my home
02:51 Cprossu *neither
02:52 Monkeh|Lap Not yet, anyway.. :P
02:52 Cprossu this was a discussion about 'equipment frying telsa coils'
02:52 Damianz Sure comcast didn't blame your issues on boden's thumper usage?
02:52 Cprossu thumper wasn't in use between 12AM and $AM
02:52 Cprossu *4AM
02:53 Cprossu @ Damianz
02:53 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Give me some cheap carpet, I can give you a great tesla coil impression. :P
02:53 Damianz I never said logic was in play :D
02:53 Cprossu so no they did not.
02:53 Cprossu and they couldn't blame anything else either of ours
02:54 Cprossu anyway I think I'll be heading home, I am hungry
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02:56 brady anybody got an idea for extra trampolie springs. i have a 5 gallon bucket full of them and not quite sure what to do with them
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03:10 lwq1996 my dad broke 2 rods today :/ fixed the one though :P
03:11 lwq1996 we didnt even go fishing though
03:11 wannabe1987 awwww
03:11 wannabe1987 how did he break them?
03:11 wannabe1987 wb tonsofpcs
03:13 lwq1996 well one was already broke and he broke it more. and one the lower eye broke off when he was trying to break it down so i can carry it on the bus and pulled on the eye and the thing set for like 15years. he fixed the eye with super glue. on the other one he broke the tensioner on it, it was already half broke though
03:15 * lwq1996 pokes irc with his fishing rod
03:17 * egrsteve unleashes JAWS!
03:18 * Damianz gets his tape out
03:18 * lwq1996 tapes Damianz to a tree
03:19 * egrsteve adds laser to jaws
03:19 lwq1996 lol, kipkay opening? :P
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03:20 egrsteve no just jaws with a freaking laser beam
03:20 lwq1996 lol
03:20 * egrsteve runs and hides
03:21 * Damianz chains lwq1996 to ChanServ
03:21 Cprossu hey egrsteve
03:21 wannabe1987 ...
03:21 Damianz egrsteve just wants some laser curtains.
03:21 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Why do people have to play with controls they're not meant to play with and are positioned to make that clear?
03:22 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap. stop now
03:22 * wannabe1987 has a margarhita
03:22 egrsteve because saying no is insentive to do it
03:22 * Cprossu imagines the GIANT CANDY LIGHT button from Ren & Stimpy
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Me stop?
03:23 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: I fixed the focus on my scope. It was annoyingly simple.
03:23 lwq1996 NO..... NOT CHANSERV
03:23 Cprossu .yt candy button ren & stimpy
03:23 BotSteve Cprossu: THE HISTORY ERASER BUTTON REMIX - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjN-H62U64
03:23 Cprossu remix? damn you .yt
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03:25 astro73|roam *flops hard*
03:25 tehdark45 I have returned
03:25 wannabe1987 HI ASTRO!!!!!!!!!
03:26 lwq1996 hi astro
03:26 tehdark45 hi astro, lee, wannabe
03:26 Damianz Astro is all floppy
03:26 lwq1996 lol
03:27 tehdark45 whats up lwq1996
03:27 wannabe1987 astro73|roam, hows the show?
03:27 astro73|roam hi wannabe1987, lwq1996, tehdark45
03:27 astro73|roam what show?
03:27 astro73|roam oh!
03:27 wannabe1987 ...
03:27 astro73|roam indiana jones
03:27 astro73|roam it was good
03:28 wannabe1987 good
03:29 wannabe1987 enjoying vacation?
03:29 astro73|roam yes
03:29 astro73|roam but it's exhausting
03:29 wannabe1987 good
03:29 wannabe1987 how so?
03:31 astro73|roam i think i walked hollywood studios from end to end about 5 times
03:31 tehdark45 why would you do that?
03:31 lwq1996 where are you astro?
03:32 astro73|roam orlando, florida
03:32 lwq1996 O.O
03:33 tehdark45 astro73|roam, i was there last August, lol
03:33 astro73|roam nice
03:33 astro73|roam lwq1996: disney world
03:33 lwq1996 sweet
03:33 wannabe1987 why would you walk it 5x?!  once is enough...plan your trip, yada yada yada
03:34 lwq1996 lol
03:34 wannabe1987 its like cedar point....
03:34 astro73|roam wannabe1987: we plan poorly, and it's how things worked out
03:34 tehdark45 are you doing all the parks? or just disney?
03:34 wannabe1987 you go on rides/see things as you come across them
03:34 wannabe1987 lol i'm giving you hard time ja
03:34 astro73|roam tehdark45: disney and legoland
03:35 wannabe1987 LEGOS!!!!!!!!!
03:35 astro73|roam wannabe1987: aerosmith was broken when our fast pass came up, so we ended up doing tons more walking
03:35 wannabe1987 guys, Cprossu is a genious.....
03:35 tehdark45 wannabe1987, LEGO*
03:35 astro73|roam wannabe1987: new that
03:35 wannabe1987 "you know what i just realized?  the stove won't boil water when its not on"
03:35 wannabe1987 i knew it too....
03:36 astro73|roam lol
03:36 wannabe1987 also
03:36 wannabe1987 http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-paralyzed-spinal-cord-20120531,0,6447865.story
03:36 BotSteve Title: Paralyzed rats run again: Can it help human victims of spinal cord injury? - latimes.com
03:36 astro73|roam also, there's this thing in town called Gay Days
03:36 wannabe1987 o?
03:37 wannabe1987 btw why did your brother cut hhis hair?
03:37 astro73|roam pretty sure disney made a bunch of rainbow merch for it, and just left it on a table in a shop
03:37 astro73|roam wannabe1987: no idea
03:37 wannabe1987 kk
03:37 wannabe1987 http://www.craftbits.com/project/computer-keyboard-earrings  i need to make these
03:37 BotSteve Title: Computer Keyboard Earrings - DIY Craft Project Instructions
03:38 astro73|roam maybe
03:38 wannabe1987 also i want an oven
03:41 astro73|roam don't we all
03:41 astro73|roam so, i'm pretty sure i found the dorkiest possible thing i could wear
03:41 tehdark45 you could get a toaster oven
03:41 tehdark45 is that close enough?
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03:48 astro73|roam toaster ovens are not the same thing
03:48 astro73|roam try baking in a toaster oven
03:49 tehdark45 .cookie astro73|roam
03:49 BotSteve Here you go, astro73|roam, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
03:50 tehdark45 that was easy
03:50 tehdark45 :P
03:50 BatSteve you can't bake in a toaster oven?
03:50 astro73|roam it depends
03:50 egrsteve tehdark45: that would have been more impressive if you were using a  video toaster
03:50 astro73|roam it's too small for a lot of baking
03:50 egrsteve to irc on
03:55 wannabe1987 i just want to make cookies damnit
03:55 wannabe1987 :'(
03:56 wannabe1987 astro73|roam: what did you wear?
03:56 astro73|roam mickey ears hat
03:56 astro73|roam but with R2-D2 dome
03:56 wannabe1987 did your mom get a photo?
03:57 astro73|roam i'm wearing it in the stage photo
03:57 astro73|roam she got other photos, but they're not online
03:58 wannabe1987 thats awesoe
03:58 wannabe1987 thats awesom*e
03:59 astro73|roam i thought so
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04:00 wannabe1987 also, thanks to your mother for the continued updates about your vacation....:)
04:01 astro73|roam you're welcome
04:01 tehdark45 lol
04:01 astro73|roam my brother does it, too
04:02 wannabe1987 yes, but i have not met or friended him
04:04 wannabe1987 weeee fireworks
04:05 Damianz Weeing on fireworks is a bad idea
04:06 wannabe1987 i can't wii on anything excep t the toilet....
04:06 wannabe1987 why not Damianz?
04:06 Damianz You'd probably get a free hair trim as it was taking off
04:07 lwq1996 going to bed, night
04:07 wannabe1987 Cprossu: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/536783_140414786093240_121983731269679_162299_503277427_n.jpg
04:07 wannabe1987 night lwq1996
04:08 tehdark45 by lwq1996
04:11 wannabe1987 COMPUTER Y U NO BEHAVE
04:11 tehdark45 wannabe1987, computer: 101122201010101311010105
04:13 wannabe1987 yay fireworks
04:14 eadthem fresh profile fresh install of firefox
04:14 eadthem crashes on start
04:17 wannabe1987 figures
04:18 Damianz Ever tried chrome? :D
04:20 eadthem hardware acceleration issue
04:21 eadthem this is sad
04:21 eadthem i will have to start the profle over as well
04:23 eadthem i have had that same profle sense netscape 4.0
04:23 eadthem its moved from browser to browser
04:23 tehdark45 lol
04:24 eadthem netscape 6  to mozilasuite to  firebird .9 to firefox 3  to kmeleon   to firefox 3.5 and up
05:08 LittleCreature hello
05:09 tehdark45 hi
05:09 LittleCreature how do you do?
05:10 tehdark45 good
05:10 tehdark45 you?
05:10 LittleCreature im doing fairly well
05:10 tehdark45 cool
05:11 wannabe1987 hi LittleCreature
05:13 LittleCreature hello
05:13 LittleCreature how do you do?
05:13 wannabe1987 tired.
05:16 LittleCreature oh
05:24 tehdark45 the excitment of irc
05:24 tehdark45 lol
05:33 JA12 =)
05:33 JA12 ponies
05:39 wannabe1987 PONIES?!
05:39 wannabe1987 where?!
05:39 wannabe-zz night all....take care, behave, etc....
05:42 JA12 oh didn't notice
05:42 JA12 I was checking fb. no ponies there
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06:06 Electricguy morning :)
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06:54 einball Hi!
06:55 einball uhm yummy
06:55 einball toast with solder flux flavor
06:55 einball chris should really try this in his ecig
07:31 JA12 waitwhat? solder flux flavor?
07:31 einball yuo :)
07:31 einball I eat toast while soldering :D
07:31 Toastdude Y U EAT ME???
07:31 Toastdude :P
07:32 einball Becuzz ur YUMMY
07:32 JA12 rosin flux?
07:32 JA12 or some synthetic goodness
07:32 JA12 with acids and nom
07:38 einball dunno
07:38 einball inside of the tin
07:38 einball I think its colophonium
07:39 einball oh yup rosin
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09:30 Experimentonomen g'mornin peepz
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10:17 Electricguy extremely sad.. http://news.yahoo.com/mr-trololo-dies-russia-hospital-aged-77-073011456.html
10:17 BotSteve Title: Mr. Trololo dies in Russia hospital aged 77 - Yahoo! News
10:40 Chipguy awwww
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12:18 CaptainNiobe heh. i just loaded a new minecraft world - to get spawned into the middle of the ocean with NO land in sight. *headdesk* worst spawn i ever got... lol...
12:19 Experimentonomen haha
12:19 Experimentonomen owned ;p
12:20 CaptainNiobe totally :P now i gotta swim for it... and i guess i ain't building a small base on spawn this world lol
12:26 CaptainNiobe I SEE LAND! :P
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12:27 mashpriborintorg hiya
12:27 CaptainNiobe heya mashpriborintorg :)
12:27 mashpriborintorg whats up
12:28 mashpriborintorg yay I got rid of all my scrap metal
12:29 mashpriborintorg and a guy at the scrap yard gave me 10 euros for helping him unloading his van... he had 100 kilos of scrap wires and motor parts
12:30 CaptainNiobe sorry for delay, was looking for land in minecraft...
12:30 CaptainNiobe sounds good... and good on you for getting rid of all your scrap
12:31 mashpriborintorg it makes room for.... more crap
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12:32 CaptainNiobe more crap != fun... lol...
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12:54 mashpriborintorg noes, noes, noes. I don't need to have 30 IEC cables in stock
12:55 mashpriborintorg 28 will be ok xD
12:58 CaptainNiobe mashpriborintorg: LMFAO!!! you only need like 2... or 4... or 6 or 9... :P
12:58 CaptainNiobe Experimentonomen: i FINALLY found substantial land! yay! :D
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13:10 BitViper CaptainNiobe : whatd you do spawn in the middle of the pacific ?
13:11 CaptainNiobe BitViper: essentually, yah... :P
13:11 BitViper nice
13:12 BitViper thats when you want a diving helmet (pumpkin) handy, then just sink to the bottom and build your house ... total secure
13:12 CaptainNiobe bit hard to find in the middle of the ocean :P
13:13 BitViper minor issue :)
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14:23 tonsofpcs yawn
14:23 tonsofpcs so, I'm back.... *@$^@($^*@(^ cable company
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14:37 JA12 yay a new type of atty, tanks and e-cig juice arrived
14:42 Carvagon yeah i need to try one of those.  what kind do u recommend?
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14:48 JA12 Carvagon: what kind of what? e-cigs, juices or attys?
14:49 Carvagon lol all.  never tried it.  1½ packs a day currently.  need a change
14:49 JA12 ah ok. where you from?
14:51 JA12 never mind, I'll tell the long version. I bought one that's essentially the same as in the geekgroup videos
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14:52 JA12 the brand changes depending where you're located and where you're bying from
14:52 Carvagon im in indiana
14:53 Carvagon those were the ones i was looking at as well
14:53 JA12 but there's not that many e-cig manufacturers and if you know the brand, you can buy same stuff even if the brand changes
14:54 JA12 ... that didn't come out as well as I hoped :)
14:54 JA12 anyway, mine is joyetech (original manufacturer) e-go
14:55 JA12 which is the same as tankomizer from that US brand
14:57 JA12 I bought a kit and it has two e-cigs. 1100mAh battery, atty, tank, some other accessories x2
14:57 Carvagon ahhh i gotcha
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15:00 JA12 I would recommend buying a good one in the first place to get a good experience and to easily try juice flavors
15:00 JA12 small battery -> recharge all the time -> bad
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15:13 JA12 oh and I should mention that it might not be the best idea to try to get the tobacco flavor. there's no burning, no smoke, so it's quite difficult to replicate the flavour
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15:20 tonsofpcs shouldn't it just taste like that smell you get when working with any nightshade?
15:25 JA12 :)
15:29 JA12 if you're without smokes a while, then you can taste the cigarette flavour a bit but other times you can't tell because it's such an assault to the taste sensors
15:33 JA12 the e-juice flavour I'm using just now is menthol/eucalyptus. that's what I ordered, that's what it says on the bottle and that's exactly what it tastes
15:33 JA12 no guessing
15:35 Monkeh|Lap What on earth motivates people to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=-S4DZ_aWNuU#
15:35 BotSteve Title: PowNews - Orville vliegkat - YouTube
15:35 Monkeh|Lap And why is it so funny?
15:40 JA12 all that needs now is some mechanism to get a rainbow out of its ass
15:41 JA12 maybe that would be enough to scare people away from nyan cat
15:43 BitViper excellent choice of sound track
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16:13 wannabe-zz hi sashi
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16:25 wannabe1987 hm
16:25 wannabe1987 netsplit
16:25 wannabe1987 hello exaem, Auriga
16:31 Auriga wannabe1987, Howdy...
16:31 wannabe1987 how are you?
16:31 Auriga wannabe1987, I'm okay, you? To what does your greeting pertain?
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16:32 wannabe1987 what do you mean, what does it pertain?  i usually say hi to everyone that comes into irc if i'm here....
16:32 wannabe1987 i'm doing fine by the way
16:32 wannabe1987 hi JA12
16:32 wannabe1987 welcome back
16:32 Auriga Ahhhh... Lightbulb...
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16:36 JA12 wannabe1987 :) hi
16:37 wannabe1987 how are you?
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16:38 injektion Is this normal for a 486? http://goput.it/elo.jpg
16:38 JA12 I'm almost willing to say that great. my new e-cig atomizer arrived and it's phenomenal
16:38 wannabe1987 sweet
16:39 JA12 wannabe1987: how's your morning/day?
16:40 injektion I've never touched anything x8 before the PPro
16:40 wannabe1987 not sure...eating breakfast.  its sunny out, so thats good
16:40 Electricguy__ chatting with a girl.. she asked me how i can play such a pointless and awful game as Minecraft... -,-
16:40 injektion x86*
16:40 Electricguy__ totally not the right girl...
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16:41 JA12 wannabe1987: well not a bad start for the day then :)
16:41 wannabe1987 eg:  nope
16:41 wannabe1987 hi leee
16:42 wannabe1987 nope.  except the sun woke me up
16:42 Electricguy__ yeah Sun servers are indeed pretty noisy.. :P
16:42 Electricguy__ would wake me up too
16:43 injektion All I know is that it's a Unisys AMD 486
16:46 wannabe1987 bodens status confuses me....insect porn?
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17:00 mashpriborintorg yeah probably the first of the sex ed video series he was speaking about in the cb.... with flies :p
17:01 wannabe1987 lol i hope not...
17:05 mashpriborintorg Bodens ideas. What else.
17:08 SparkyProjects Birds and Bees :P
17:08 BitViper i just wanna know who is gonna be the model for the detail parts
17:08 BitViper actually maybe i dont
17:10 mashpriborintorg he said sex ed, not horror movie
17:11 BitViper hahahaha
17:11 BitViper once you go into real life detail, there is no difference
17:11 BitViper ive seen those movies *shudder*
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17:40 Carvagon is there a way from a server to scan the machines on the network and inventory the software installed on them?
17:54 mashpriborintorg okay new photos in my flickr gallery http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00
17:54 BotSteve Title: Flickr: mashpriborintorg's Photostream
17:55 mashpriborintorg not very happy with the results tho, the light sucked and I was too busy fighting with it
18:01 wannabe1987 hi BitViper
18:01 wannabe1987 hi deopped you :P
18:01 BitViper im not here, just a fig newton in your imagination
18:02 wannabe1987 i want fig newtons....
18:02 wannabe1987 i'm running out of munchies
18:02 BitViper you'd have to fight me for them =P
18:02 wannabe1987 i want more butter and graham crackers so i can make yummy peanut butter chocolaty goodness
18:02 wannabe1987 maybe i'll return the lab's popcans today and buy that stuff....
18:03 wannabe1987 i should probably get out of bed....BUT ITS SO COMFY HERE
18:03 wannabe1987 i love the memory foam topper damnit
18:20 wannabe1987 BitViper: what do yo uthink woul happen if i paid my rent in monopoly money?
18:21 BitViper wannabe1987 : nothing, as long as the bank accepted it in the first place
18:22 BitViper pro tip : hotdogs go in microwave for TWO minutes, not TWENTY
18:22 wannabe1987 lol
18:24 BitViper guarenteed DEAD dogs
18:25 wannabe1987 yes
18:26 mashpriborintorg another pro tip: never, never confound wasabi with avocado when you eat sushis
18:26 wannabe1987 lol
18:27 wannabe1987 sounds spicy
18:28 BitViper sounds dangerous
18:28 mashpriborintorg they are exactly the same color in the plate :p
18:28 wannabe1987 yes
18:29 wannabe1987 i've tried wasabi.  not nearly as bad as HOT salsa or jalapeno because the burn goes away RIGHT AWAY vs lingering FOREVER like mexican food
18:31 BitViper wannabe1987 did you get that guy last night in touch with dan ?
18:31 wannabe1987 yep
18:31 wannabe1987 i gave dan an email addy and yt vid
18:32 BitViper kewl
18:33 wannabe1987 eakinn says he had a nice convo w/ him, which is why he wants donations.  it all makes sense now :)
18:33 BitViper which is why i asked, i figured something like that
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18:35 BitViper ha you can tell who's actually active on fb when a post gets liked even before the page updates
18:36 wannabe1987 lol
18:36 wannabe1987 i'm just sitting on the page...
18:36 BitViper not touching that
18:37 wannabe1987 ok i'm sitting on the floor doing other things while the page is open
18:37 BitViper LOL
18:38 wannabe1987 Cprossu is so weird...one of his computers is still out here...i should totally make him a facebook page
18:38 BitViper lol
18:38 wannabe1987 he's over there, in the bedroom...
18:38 wannabe1987 not far
18:38 wannabe1987 but unless he's on the right computer he won't see that i mentioned him
18:46 wannabe1987 well, i was gonna make cookie dough, but i don't have enough butter.  poo
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19:01 Experimentonomen ok now i am really fucking pissed off!!! its been over a hour and my fucking connection caps out at fucking 20 kucking kfuckingbits!! fucking useless fucking piece of fucking shit!!!!
19:01 BitViper whooo, he's on dialup LOL
19:01 JA12 better than no connection. you still have irc
19:02 BitViper shhhh its not irc, its a bbs
19:02 BitViper ;)
19:02 mashpriborintorg yesterday morning I was uploading @ 2kbps :p cable network doesn't like wet weather it seems
19:02 JA12 BitViper :)
19:02 Experimentonomen shut up
19:03 Experimentonomen im no0t in mood¨
19:03 mashpriborintorg That was a great movie...
19:03 mashpriborintorg In the mood for love
19:07 wannabe1987 guys be nice.....:P  its our only channel rule thus far
19:08 BitViper aw nuts, ruin all our fun
19:09 wannabe1987 some one has to
19:11 BitViper naaaaaa
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19:12 BitViper besides, i dont think ive ever seen exp in a good mood, long before either of us came here
19:12 BitViper but he's ok anyway
19:20 wannabe1987 BitViper, do you lilke cats?
19:20 wannabe1987 like*
19:20 wannabe1987 FUCKING CAT
19:20 wannabe1987 why must i keep petting you....
19:21 BitViper i like well behaved cats, snuggly cats, not so fond of shedding or shredding cats
19:21 wannabe1987 also, how does one use a sheet router or other such machines to make picture frames
19:21 wannabe1987 we have a friendly neighborhood cat
19:21 wannabe1987 it likes to sit on our back steps.
19:21 wannabe1987 please to not step on cat
19:21 BitViper im sure cat would inform me of displeasure were i to step on it
19:21 wannabe1987 lol i bet it would
19:22 wannabe1987 it keeps trying to also sneak into the apartment (former tenants would let it in)
19:22 BitViper must break it of that habit
19:22 wannabe1987 boy and i are both allergic, please to keep said cat OUT of said apartment
19:22 BitViper discourage it from porch
19:23 BitViper 5kv on a metal foot scraper should do the trick
19:23 wannabe1987 ...
19:23 wannabe1987 don't shock the cat!
19:23 wannabe1987 it is allowed in the upstairs apartment i believe
19:23 wannabe1987 but thats through a different door
19:23 BitViper ah
19:23 BitViper leave some catnip on the other porch :)
19:23 wannabe1987 all i has are cat treats.
19:23 wannabe1987 no nip
19:24 BitViper borrow dog
19:24 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
19:24 BitViper here omni, lunch
19:24 wannabe1987 or max....
19:25 wannabe1987 LOL this house was built in 1936
19:25 wannabe1987 no wonder the electrical sucks
19:25 wannabe1987 its valued at 76k
19:25 wannabe1987 all i want to know is who is the owner
19:25 BitViper half of GR was built in that time frame, probably has much in common with gh5
19:26 BitViper as likely as not, a bank
19:26 wannabe1987 no, owner is going bankrupt
19:26 wannabe1987 lol says "lots of updating has been done"  to what?!
19:26 wannabe1987 too bad i can't just buy the house....
19:27 wannabe1987 redo the back one bed apt into something money making as well
19:27 BitViper well, 50 years ago they updated the roof maybe :)
19:27 wannabe1987 maybe.  it also needs a new roof, according to cpro
19:27 BitViper 2/3 of gr probably does
19:29 wannabe1987 lol
19:32 tonsofpcs Anyone have a suggestion for a webhost that won't email me once a month "we found this 1 GB directory of pictures - tell us how you're using it immediately or we'll suspend your account"?  (non-dedicated, multiple domains [as subdirectories], subdomains, e-mail too)
19:36 tonsofpcs (xAMP with cpanel or similar)
19:40 wannabe1987 well, i was gonna shower....i guess it'll have to wait....time to clean the bedroom then....kitchen is done
19:42 mashpriborintorg oh god ! a Teslacide ! where's Chris when you need him http://youtu.be/9NEJOr5D2LI
19:42 BotSteve Title: The End - YouTube
19:49 wannabe1987 Monkeh|Lap: when are you coming?
19:50 wannabe1987 mashpriborintorg, my friend just posted that vid on facebook when you posted it here....thats just too creepy....
19:51 wannabe1987 and its his friend, too
19:51 mashpriborintorg we all have the same youtube subs it seems
19:51 mashpriborintorg and we all refresh it every 5 minutes
19:51 wannabe1987 lol yep
19:52 wannabe1987 "i just gotta get all my ducks in a row, quack quack quack quack quack" - cpro
19:52 wannabe1987 wtf LOL
19:55 wannabe1987 and....he's gone
19:56 mashpriborintorg btw I've been in the places shown in this clip and it sounds good love it http://youtu.be/9_XfdqXJ65s
19:56 BotSteve Title: Swé - vyb' la good / right here - YouTube
19:56 mashpriborintorg and I DO understand the lyrics :p
19:58 wannabe1987 good.  someone has to
20:00 wannabe1987 the poor tesla....
20:00 mashpriborintorg it's an ultra-flat tesla now :p
20:00 wannabe1987 lol yes
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20:03 mashpriborintorg going to sleep, one more time, bye
20:03 wannabe1987 night
20:03 wannabe1987 hi Twinix
20:04 Twinix hi all
20:04 wannabe1987 how are you?
20:04 Twinix fine, how are you
20:05 wannabe1987 productive.  scarily productive for a monday
20:05 Twinix oh i'm sick today so i did nothing:(
20:06 wannabe1987 i didn't do anything till about 2pm, its about 4pm so i've been productive for 2 hours :P
20:10 wannabe1987 people whose desktops are full of icons confuse me
20:11 Twinix hahahah
20:11 Twinix where you from?
20:11 wannabe1987 michigan.  i live 1/2 mile from the lab.
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20:11 wannabe1987 hi sparky
20:11 Twinix thats awsome i wish i was that close to the lab
20:12 wannabe1987 where are you from?
20:12 Twinix Holland
20:12 wannabe1987 the netherlands or holland MI?
20:12 Twinix the netherlands :D
20:12 wannabe1987 either way, oh noes another dutchman/woman
20:13 wannabe1987 !!!!
20:13 wannabe1987 the motherland, yay
20:13 wannabe1987 dekemp is from the netherlands as well, however he isnot currently on irc
20:14 Twinix oke
20:14 wannabe1987 how did you find the geek group?
20:17 Twinix was looking on youtube and found a clip of the old lab about half a year ago and i liked it so i watched more and more
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20:17 Siljo hi
20:17 Twinix like in the last 2 or 3 weeks watched all the captains blogs and almost all the geek group videos
20:18 Twinix hi sjljo
20:18 Siljo :) same here
20:18 Twinix hahaha and thanks to chris i begin vaping
20:18 wannabe1987 SWEET!
20:19 Twinix and 1 buddy and my girlfriend are on to it.
20:21 wannabe1987 even better.  i'll have to let him know :)
20:25 Twinix thats awsome, cause if i never saw his videos i'll never had know what vaping was about and never started i think
20:29 wannabe1987 and thats why you need to share the vids so others hear and stop smoking because, by golly, you stink! (to use chris' words there, at the end)
20:29 Zozo so busy...
20:29 wannabe1987 do you need help?
20:30 Zozo its finally calmed down
20:30 Zozo interviewing interns
20:30 wannabe1987 ah.  thats right
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20:34 wannabe1987 hi kate
20:35 Katemonster hello
20:35 Twinix hi
20:35 wannabe1987 how are you?
20:35 Katemonster monkey and/or monkey|lap and/or electricguy and/or anyone else who wants to talk about linux with me here?
20:35 Katemonster meh.  my alergies are acting up
20:37 Katemonster the peafowl are wandering around our house though, and there are two albinos, so that's kind of neat.
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20:37 tonsofpcs Cprossu or yNos around?
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20:37 Katemonster speak of the swedish devil
20:37 Katemonster oh no wait that's seroster
20:39 * Katemonster pokes Electricguy
20:39 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: no they're going out to eat together...
20:39 wannabe1987 albinos?  peafowl?
20:39 Katemonster peacocks and peahens
20:40 Electricguy FINALLY it works again! :D
20:40 Electricguy stupid ISP!
20:40 wannabe1987 ah
20:40 Katemonster the neighbors have a few... okay, a LOT of them, and they are allowed to roam free.  they wander over to our house a lot and have been walking in circles around our house for the last few hours.
20:41 Electricguy i trashpicked a AMD Athlon 64 x2 CPU and a totally bad ass UV fire detector!
20:41 Electricguy explosion, water and dust proof :P
20:41 Katemonster can i have the Athlon?  :3
20:42 Electricguy well.. i don't even know if it works.. so it would be sad if you payed shipping for a dead CPU.. :P
20:42 Katemonster also i'd like to state for the record that Win2K suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
20:42 Electricguy but if it works.. sure! :D
20:43 Electricguy here is the fire detector i found http://www.oklahomaselltoday.com/Tulsa-/Industrial-MAchinery-/Det-tronics-hazardous-loacation-uv-fire-detector-U7600.do
20:43 BotSteve Title: Det-tronics hazardous loacation uv fire detector U7600
20:43 Electricguy damn cool thing
20:43 Katemonster no money for shipping.  :(
20:43 wannabe1987 i swear.....the ice cream truck never shuts up
20:43 Electricguy and EXTREMELY fast!
20:43 Electricguy almost mint condition too :P was just very dusty
20:43 Katemonster Ice Cream Truck, or how I learned to stop worrying and love Greensleeves
20:44 Katemonster Electricguy, are you a linux guy?
20:44 Electricguy nope :P
20:44 Electricguy windooze
20:44 Katemonster damn.
20:44 wannabe1987 except its not playing greensleeves
20:44 Katemonster sad
20:46 wannabe1987 more annoying than ever it plays the 'do your ears hang low do they wobble to and fro, can you tie them in a knot, can you tie them in a bow..." song
20:46 Katemonster LOL
20:47 Katemonster that sounds vaguely like the bubblegum song
20:49 Katemonster oh wait.  duh.
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21:11 BatSteve hey everyone
21:12 BatSteve https://github.com/Steve-V/sdv-personal/blob/master/tgg-experiment.txt
21:12 BotSteve Title: sdv-personal/tgg-experiment.txt at master · Steve-V/sdv-personal · GitHub
21:12 wannabe1987 ?
21:12 wannabe1987 hi
21:12 BatSteve hey
21:12 BatSteve I'm about to head out, I'll be back later on
21:12 BatSteve www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | https://github.com/Steve-V/sdv-personal/blob/master/tgg-experiment.txt
21:12 BotSteve Title: sdv-personal/tgg-experiment.txt at master · Steve-V/sdv-personal · GitHub
21:12 wannabe1987 whats that?
21:12 BatSteve derp
21:12 wannabe1987 take care
21:12 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | https://github.com/Steve-V/sdv-personal/blob/master/tgg-experiment.txt
21:13 BatSteve wannabe1987: it's the results of the IRC experiment
21:13 wannabe1987 thats right, i can do the topic....
21:13 BatSteve I figure it's just about over
21:13 BatSteve So it's what I've learned
21:13 BatSteve also, here's the "should BatSteve remain an op?" survey, which I'll put in the topic later:  http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7899FYP
21:13 BotSteve Title: What should BatSteve do with his ops? Survey
21:13 BatSteve time to go!
21:14 wannabe1987 ahhh.  ok.
21:14 * wannabe1987 reads
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21:28 wannabe1987 If you put root beer in a square glass, do you get beer?
21:30 Siljo :)
21:36 wannabe1987 ahhh bed is much better when made and the topper is on properly :)
21:39 Carvagon lol
21:42 lwq1996 blargh!!!!!!
21:43 * lwq1996 pokes the wannabe1987
21:43 wannabe1987 hi
21:43 lwq1996 hi :P
21:43 lwq1996 next time i go to walmart im getting a fishing rod!!!! damn one i used today, the line kept breaking or jammed up
21:44 wannabe1987 awwww  did you get anything?
21:44 lwq1996 nope. spent so much time putting new hooks on or unsnagging, or unjamming
21:45 wannabe1987 that sucks :(
21:46 lwq1996 i want a shakespeare open faced fishing rod
21:48 lwq1996 lost my dads luer and bobber too :/
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21:50 wannabe1987 that sucks.
21:50 wannabe1987 hi adhocirc
21:51 Electricguy IRC on a adhoc connection? :P
21:52 wannabe1987 dunno
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21:52 wannabe1987 anyway i'm gonna go shower....bbl
22:00 Electricguy that owl i the tree is was talking about some days ago..
22:00 Electricguy it's not one owl.. it's one owl FAMILY! -,-
22:01 Electricguy we got about 6-7 owls in a tree outside! -,-
22:02 wannabe1987 poor Electricguy
22:02 wannabe1987 whoooo whoooo whooo
22:02 Electricguy well... it's damn annoying with squeaking owls all night.. EVERY night XD
22:03 BitViper ya havent taken the saw to the tree yet ?
22:03 Electricguy no not yet
22:03 Electricguy just located the tree this evenining :P
22:04 wannabe1987 mark it witha big ol "X"
22:05 BitViper now find a cat, starve if for a couple days, then send it up the tree
22:05 Electricguy lol :P
22:05 wannabe1987 lol
22:06 Electricguy it would be enough with one owl.. XD
22:06 Electricguy if it's not a very big cat :P
22:08 wannabe1987 get a big cat then?  lion, tiger, liger, panther, leopard, etc
22:08 Electricguy lulz XD
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22:09 wannabe1987 hi hacky :)
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22:20 * wannabe1987 has a head full of wet hair
22:24 * Damianz points his blow dryer at wannabe1987
22:25 wannabe1987 thanks, but my hair is trying to recover from heat damage due to hair straighteners and dryers
22:25 * Electricguy imagines wannabe in afro...
22:25 wannabe1987 ....no thanks
22:26 wannabe1987 i'll leave that up to my brother
22:26 Electricguy lulz :P
22:26 BitViper i haz better idea, *gets clippers* ... :)
22:27 BitViper besides, if haz head full of wet hair, no worry about zombies
22:28 wannabe1987 ?
22:30 BitViper head full of hair, no room for brains, no zombie worry
22:31 * BitViper runs
22:31 * wannabe1987 is chopping potatos with a sharp knife, you better watch out!
22:32 Electricguy yeah..
22:32 Electricguy we don't want a bitviper that sounds like a girl..
22:32 * Electricguy hides
22:33 wannabe1987 what, i'm in the kitchen
22:33 wannabe1987 thats where the knives are stored
22:33 wannabe1987 and the potatoes
22:34 BitViper Electricguy : good point, i dont want a bitviper that sounds, looks, or feels like a girl
22:34 Electricguy LOL :P
22:34 Electricguy bedtime now. night all :)
22:35 BitViper nite
22:35 BitViper but she did say potatoes, not nuts
22:35 wannabe1987 lol night
22:45 wannabe1987 now, onions
22:45 wannabe1987 just one, actually
22:49 wannabe1987 fuck.  my bell peppers froze.....
22:52 wannabe1987 well...time, then, to go to the store and get one more...
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22:55 Chipguy bedtime, nite all
22:55 Chipguy nite wannabe1987
22:55 wannabe1987 night
22:55 wannabe1987 hi joe
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22:57 wannabe1987 hi DeKemp
22:57 DeKemp hi wanna
22:57 BotSteve dekemp: I have the following messages for you:
22:57 BotSteve At 03 Jun 23:30Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell dekemp http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6515910023_a226f83116_z.jpg is one of those paper stubs that the conductor would leave.  http://www.tomsimpson.org/images/ticket.jpg is the older kind of the same, http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4110/4969311044_df4fd7c8bd_z.jpg is a ticket.
22:59 DeKemp lal
23:06 DeKemp lol 12v fan on 30v
23:06 DeKemp stinks
23:12 Coderjoe burning enamel
23:12 DeKemp :D
23:12 DeKemp it slows down after 30 vols
23:12 DeKemp windings becom hot :D
23:13 Coderjoe i've overvolted a DC fan before, but not by that much
23:13 DeKemp :D
23:13 DeKemp i need an load so i can pass current trough stuff
23:13 DeKemp lightbulb or something
23:14 DeKemp 35 on cpu :D
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23:14 DeKemp those die's are conducting
23:15 Monkeh DeKemp: Through.. what?
23:15 DeKemp old pcb's and stuf
23:16 Monkeh Whhhhhy?
23:16 DeKemp SPARKS!
23:16 Monkeh What are you, Highman's dutch brother?
23:16 DeKemp lol
23:17 DeKemp got a 35-3 amp suply
23:17 DeKemp but it goes in limiting when short circuited
23:17 BitViper im bored, so bored im watching "evolution" >.<
23:17 Monkeh DeKemp: Nah, really?
23:17 DeKemp so a lightbulb would make it a non short circuit
23:20 DeKemp http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/dekemp/bovenkant.jpg thats it
23:21 Monkeh That's a three am- oh, right, it's a switcher
23:21 Monkeh I thought you meant a real supply.
23:21 DeKemp :P
23:21 DeKemp its linear
23:22 Monkeh So where's the heatsink?
23:22 DeKemp http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/dekemp/DSC_0511.jpg
23:22 Monkeh Interesting.
23:22 DeKemp its a realy popluar desing here
23:22 Monkeh In that case, not so bad. Now get a case and some proper controls.
23:22 Monkeh :P
23:22 DeKemp i have :)
23:22 Monkeh Inefficient heatsinking.
23:23 DeKemp http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/dekemp/bord.jpg
23:23 DeKemp it does the job
23:24 Monkeh Just sayin', those TO3's should be directly mounted
23:24 DeKemp din't have the correct heatsink for that
23:24 Monkeh That's what a drill is for :D
23:24 DeKemp :P
23:25 DeKemp you would need a large drill  removing the fins
23:25 DeKemp or a mill
23:25 Monkeh No need to remove fins
23:25 Monkeh You just have to get creative with the wire routing
23:25 DeKemp routing them at the outside
23:25 DeKemp thats just messy
23:26 tonsofpcs wheeeee
23:26 Monkeh I don't consider it any more messy than having the package on the outside
23:26 Monkeh I've always hated that design
23:26 tonsofpcs Cprossu?
23:26 tonsofpcs yNos?
23:26 DeKemp http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/dekemp/DSC_0278-1.jpg  thats for the displays
23:26 Monkeh TO3's with the pins on the top, now that'd be awesome
23:26 tonsofpcs hmm, tgg uses linode
23:27 Monkeh tonsofpcs: How pedestrian
23:27 DeKemp http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/dekemp/DSC_0346.jpg  dutch transformer! :D
23:28 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I need recommendations for hosting (managed, xAMP + ftp + cpanel [or similar])
23:28 Monkeh I don't do managed.
23:28 Monkeh cPanel is hilarious.
23:29 tonsofpcs ok, then really cheap vps.
23:29 Monkeh How cheap, what requirements?
23:31 tonsofpcs 50 GB storage, PHP, [My]SQL, httpd, ftpd with either access restrictions or folder-per-account type setup, multiple domains each gets its own directory (either a separate public_html or a subfolder but not a redirect)
23:31 DeKemp also http://www.voordeelverpakking.nl/opendir/DSC_8368-size.jpg CATS!
23:31 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If it's a VPS, doing everything is up to you remember :P
23:31 tonsofpcs DeKemp: combine the two.
23:31 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that's why I'd rather have managed.
23:31 DeKemp :(
23:32 Monkeh 50GB costs you with a VPS
23:32 tonsofpcs DeKemp: transformer cats!
23:32 DeKemp http://www.voordeelverpakking.nl/opendir/DSC_9513.JPG OH
23:32 DeKemp awsome pic
23:32 BitViper cpanel sucks azz
23:33 BitViper i need a vps, UNmanaged
23:33 Monkeh tonsofpcs: What exactly do you need 50GB FOR?
23:33 Monkeh And ffs, why are you planning to use FTP?
23:33 DeKemp i have 100gb :D
23:33 Monkeh DeKemp: I have 8TB. Your move. :P
23:33 tonsofpcs large file transfers...
23:33 Monkeh tonsofpcs: But.. FTP? Really?
23:34 tonsofpcs I work with video.  It's not very uncommon that I need to copy a 30 GB file between me and someone somewhere elsee.
23:34 DeKemp ''unlimmited''trafic
23:34 DeKemp ...
23:34 Monkeh Right, but FTP..
23:34 tonsofpcs for them to pull on their end? sure.
23:34 DeKemp got 4.5tb here but not on the web
23:35 tonsofpcs oh, if we're comparing non-hosting storage, I have a single 4U with 30TB....
23:35 DeKemp :P
23:35 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, but that's not at your house and/or you did _not_ pay full price for it. :P
23:35 DeKemp last lanparty there where 2 servers each with 80TB lal
23:35 DeKemp rediculous
23:36 tonsofpcs also, you know the saying 'never understimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes driving down the highway'?  We could fill a few station wagons with the tapes at work....
23:36 DeKemp lal
23:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh: no, it's at work.  At home I only have ... 5 TBish?
23:36 Monkeh Always fun, that.
23:37 tonsofpcs and by "the tapes at work", I mean the ones that we have databased and cataloged, not the one-offs and such that are in cabinet after cabinet in the hallway
23:39 tonsofpcs but yea, I need recommendations still...
23:39 tonsofpcs also, DeKemp http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/budgie6/Transformer_Cat.jpg
23:40 DeKemp lol
23:40 tonsofpcs I told you to combine the two :-p
23:40 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I'm a DIY sort of guy. The only experience with 'dumb' hosts I've had is Dreamhost. Cannot recommend.
23:40 Monkeh Hilarious security practices. Unreliable servers. Support staff who know less about the platform than I do.
23:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: Harris AC-20AS.
23:41 tonsofpcs Monkeh: well, I had one host that was great.  They've now started saying that by using the service they sold to me that I'm vilating their TOS and they refuse to talk to me on the telephone
23:41 tonsofpcs *violating
23:42 tonsofpcs (although they're in texas so it might be "vilating"
23:42 DeKemp http://www.voordeelverpakking.nl/opendir/DSC_1099.JPG  OVERKILL! :D
23:42 Monkeh tonsofpcs: ....
23:42 BitViper tonsofpcs : LOL, and what specific thing in their tos are you violating ?
23:42 BitViper or, let me guess, they wont say ?
23:42 Monkeh DeKemp: I like the duct tape bodged wire. Someone show them how to crimp a new 8P8C on..
23:43 tonsofpcs BitViper: 1 sec, let me copypaste from earlier chat
23:43 tonsofpcs DeKemp: is that 3com legacy gear?
23:43 DeKemp someone sould show me then
23:43 DeKemp it was at a lan
23:43 DeKemp don't know. not mine
23:43 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Uh, it's HP?
23:43 DeKemp i hated them, it was not gbit
23:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh: HP bought 3com and rebrands 3com line stuff as HP....
23:44 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Oh. Dear.
23:44 * Monkeh marks on do-not-buy list
23:44 Monkeh DeKemp: Feel free to bring along your own gigabit switches.. :P
23:44 tonsofpcs there's lists out there on the internet that says what's HP and what's 3com :)
23:44 DeKemp the guy who brought these, i didn't bring gbit
23:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh: "we found this 1 GB directory of pictures - tell us how you're using it immediately or we'll suspend your account"
23:44 Monkeh heh
23:44 DeKemp i dint have any gbit siwtches
23:45 tonsofpcs They 'supsended' my account (and services) for over 5 hours because I "didn't reply" to their inquiry after I sent a reply to the ticket that *they* opened stating that they should call me on a telephone.
23:45 DeKemp i would have like to have the core in our tent http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1153790262.jpg :P
23:45 tonsofpcs The ticket was opened because they had a 'routine check' that found files that 'might not be used by my website' in the 20 GB used of the 110 GB that I pay for because they are "overutilizing resources"
23:45 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Y'know, I do that. But that's a certain Polish guy who insists on uploading 10MP images of him screwing around on his overpriced bicycle all the time.
23:45 BitViper tonsofpcs : how are they suggesting that that violates their tos ?
23:45 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I just ended up whacking on a quota of 25% less than he was using. Haven't heard from him since..
23:45 tonsofpcs the ToS that was updated after I pre-paid them for a service which, in its description, says "110 GB of pure web storage".  They're claiming that it might not be related and it's an Emergency and I need to deal with it.  I'm sorry, I take vacations longer than a week, they shut down sites after 4 days of no response...
23:46 BitViper tonsofpcs : fix ... make a web page that links to all the pics, just dont link to it from other pages
23:46 wannabe-afk i survived!
23:46 tonsofpcs BitViper: well, this lasst one actually has such a page
23:46 DeKemp lalw
23:46 Monkeh tonsofpcs: What that means is they're overselling their resources.
23:46 tonsofpcs it's in a password-protected folder to share pictures with family and friends.
23:46 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that's great, not my problem.  Also, I'm using < 20% of what I paid for.
23:47 Monkeh tonsofpcs: They probably only _have_ 10% of what they've sold to people.
23:47 tonsofpcs I'm very familiar with oversubscription.
23:47 wannabe1987 BitViper, if you're bored, come down early! :P
23:47 DeKemp http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagenormal/1280493613.png thats the network we use at campzone, biggest outdoor lanparty in the world :D
23:47 tonsofpcs this waasn't a problem for 3 years.  Some of these folders have been there for as long.
23:47 BitViper this is all why i would rather find someone that can/would cohost a machine of myown (or a machine of theirs on my behalf)
23:47 Monkeh tonsofpcs: THat's why I get my VPS from a guy I know.
23:47 wannabe1987 Monkeh, when are you coming to merica?
23:47 Monkeh tonsofpcs: He does not oversell.
23:47 BitViper wannabe1987 : if not for meeting would already be down there
23:47 Monkeh wannabe1987: I uh, don't know.
23:47 Monkeh Really really really hoping by August.
23:47 tonsofpcs heck, one of these folders was there BEFORE they moved it to a nerw server
23:47 wannabe1987 skip meeting?
23:47 wannabe1987 ah cpro said you were coming, tis all
23:48 tonsofpcs oh, and (again, from when I signed up): Our disk space philosophy: We provide generous amounts of disk space--more than you'll find at most hosts, all at a very low price. This is because hard drive costs are getting lower and lower, and files are getting bigger, we simply pass the savings on to you. We
23:48 BitViper wannabe1987 : events later this month dependant on my attendance
23:48 tonsofpcs have doubled the amount f space for even past clients more than once. So, even if you don't neede as much space as you get, just rest assured that you won't ever run out!
23:48 Monkeh wannabe1987: Oh, I'm coming.
23:48 wannabe1987 attend via web?
23:48 BitViper cant
23:48 wannabe1987 thats stupid
23:48 wannabe1987 :P
23:48 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: why/when is everyone coming?
23:48 BitViper they once discussed a skype connection but afaik it never got done anything with
23:49 wannabe1987 DeKemp is planning on after july, bit is for two weeks (thus far) in june, idk when cpro is coming back, and supposedly dominik needs a place to stay, but he has not returned emails nor fb msgs
23:49 tonsofpcs is cpro leaving?
23:49 wannabe1987 yes, thursday
23:49 tonsofpcs I thought he moved in to the studio full of wood
23:49 wannabe1987 he has a wedding to  attend
23:50 tonsofpcs (is there still a studio full of wood?)
23:50 wannabe1987 what? no, he moved to my spare bedroom
23:50 wannabe1987 yes there is
23:50 tonsofpcs is moose whittling away at it?
23:50 wannabe1987 yes i assumes o
23:50 wannabe1987 so*
23:50 * tonsofpcs should bring a knife and help whittle
23:50 wannabe1987 altho i was told she went on a wood run with aaron to indiana today
23:50 Monkeh wannabe1987: I'm hoping to try and get there sometime early in July, but I'm still in the planning stages on that.
23:50 wannabe1987 cool
23:51 Monkeh Will need bed, power socket, and internet connection.
23:51 tonsofpcs I def. can't go until august at the earliest and even that might not happen
23:51 wannabe1987 will hope to have all three
23:51 tonsofpcs Monkeh: we don't have crazy euro power in the states, you be confused ;)
23:51 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I can adapt.
23:51 wannabe1987 i need a new place tho....we're kinda getting kicked out but not really, but we do need to move
23:51 DeKemp crazy euro power...
23:51 tonsofpcs *might
23:52 Monkeh DeKemp: Yanks find the concept of a mildly workable voltage confusing.
23:52 DeKemp crazy yanks with their 120v ...
23:52 tonsofpcs we have 208 and 240....
23:52 Monkeh They also find the concept of consistency confusing. :P
23:52 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that, yes :)
23:52 DeKemp 230-400 here
23:52 wannabe1987 consistancy?!  wtf is that?!
23:52 DeKemp 50hzz
23:52 tonsofpcs it's called "competition"
23:52 DeKemp *hz
23:52 tonsofpcs That's the great part about standards: There's so many to choose from!!!
23:52 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Not always healthy.
23:53 * Monkeh ponders current line voltage
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23:53 tonsofpcs no, current is a different thing entirely.
23:53 tonsofpcs :-p
23:53 Monkeh 244.4VAC.
23:53 tonsofpcs what's nominal there? 220? 230?
23:53 DeKemp whe have 230 but once i mesured a socket that was 190  and with a deepfrier it dropd to 90!
23:53 Monkeh 230VAC nominal
23:53 Monkeh But this is within spec.
23:54 Monkeh DeKemp: That's what we like to call a fire risk.
23:54 DeKemp the oil din't get hot so we mesured it (was on a lanparty)
23:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: a deep frier running on 90v designed for 230? how's it ggonna heat? :-p
23:54 DeKemp so we reported to the owner of the place
23:54 Monkeh tonsofpcs: The wiring, dumbass. :P
23:54 tonsofpcs that's what we call too much crap plugged into a circuit.
23:54 Cheezmo lol with a voltage drop that low, that means there's like 100 volts dropping over the household wiring and it's heating up :P
23:55 DeKemp no it was 190V without anny load
23:55 tonsofpcs imagine what that would do on a ring....
23:55 Monkeh See, there's your weird american ideas again
23:55 DeKemp ring?
23:55 wannabe1987 we also have farenhieght here.  good luck
23:55 wannabe1987 hey look, my bank acct is in the negative.  :sigh:
23:55 Monkeh If there was too much crapped plugged in, the CPD would cut in long before the voltage dropped like that.
23:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh: in theory.
23:55 DeKemp cpd?
23:55 Monkeh wannabe1987: See, you can't even spell it. :P
23:55 wannabe1987 noope
23:55 tonsofpcs breaker.
23:55 wannabe1987 nope*
23:55 Monkeh DeKemp: Circuit protective device.
23:55 DeKemp ah
23:55 wannabe1987 can't speal either
23:56 tonsofpcs Monkeh: see, old places tend to have old CPDs that don't, well, CP.
23:56 DeKemp it was only 1 socket
23:56 DeKemp the rest was oke
23:56 Monkeh tonsofpcs: That's.. actually quite unusual here.
23:56 Cheezmo dekemp: then that socket will likely catch fire if you load it :P
23:56 tonsofpcs Monkeh: it's unusual here too, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
23:57 DeKemp we taped it off and reported it
23:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: MCBs nearly always fail safe, fuses _always_ fail safe (assuming the correct fuse/fuse wire)
23:57 DeKemp just put a bolt in it :P
23:57 Monkeh Only MCBs I've seen fail badly were a faulty.. well, I can't really say batch, seeing as they produced them like that for two years.
23:57 tonsofpcs Monkeh: well, it could fail somewhere between the circuit's CPD and the MCBs trip rating
23:58 tonsofpcs alteernatively, it could be someone with underrated wire / overrated CPD
23:58 DeKemp mcb, dont be a cheapskate, buy the a brand ones
23:58 Monkeh DeKemp: They _were_.
23:58 DeKemp people, oh, the are expensive. ill just get these they are half the price...
23:58 tonsofpcs waht's the 'a brand' there? siemens?
23:59 DeKemp and proberly from china...
23:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: There are lots of brands and it very much depends what you use them for.
23:59 Monkeh Industrial and domestic equipment is quite different
23:59 tonsofpcs oh, right, I suppose with DIN rails you don't really get locked in to a brand so much....
23:59 wannabe1987 why wont my computer hardware cooperte
23:59 DeKemp hager is a big one here
23:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Not for domestic.. industrial is, again, different.

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