Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-08

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00:00 wannabe-afk i'm all for black tea!
00:00 * egrsteve hides from the sporks
00:00 wannabe-afk i'll spork you later, steve
00:00 egrsteve but
00:00 * wannabe-afk doesn't understand the photos....but they're pretty
00:00 egrsteve but...
00:00 wannabe-afk hide behind batman
00:01 FunkEngine its my horrible excuse for a NOC.  I was the god of lan parties from about 2001-2005. :)
00:01 egrsteve no I'll just bring a nerf gun in
00:01 wannabe-afk darn.  theres no photo of you, just a cat playing a sousaphone
00:01 deadferret toxic cheap food... ramin??
00:01 wannabe-afk a nerf gun or a nerf "gun" ?
00:01 egrsteve fine. nerf artillery
00:02 tonsofpcs yay black tea.
00:02 tonsofpcs I guess I need to brring tea if I ever return.
00:02 egrsteve better yet a piece of 12 awg wire and a good rubber band
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00:02 tonsofpcs I only had like 3 bags in my camera bag last time
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00:03 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I bet the Cafe is serving drinks by Autumn anyway.
00:03 egrsteve see you soon, or you may see me
00:03 FunkEngine yay!
00:03 wannabe-afk anyway, i need to get going, class ended
00:03 wannabe-afk FunkEngine are you on fb?
00:03 FunkEngine wannabe-afk: Ermm, kind of.  I don't "do" fb, but I have a FB. :)
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00:04 wannabe-afk facebook.com/<username>?
00:04 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: and they'll probably stock lipton like everyone else.
00:05 FunkEngine PM-ed.
00:06 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: In terms of cheap, mass appeal black tea, how do you feel about Tetley?
00:06 Cprossu ahhhh it's good to be home
00:06 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
00:06 BotSteve At 07 Jun 20:55Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell cprossu thanks for the shower stuff :)
00:07 Cprossu BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 no problem ;)
00:07 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
00:07 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I have a box of tetley in my desk.
00:07 tonsofpcs that ?? rose tea company is pretty good too (forget the full name)
00:08 Cprossu time to go drive my car
00:08 Cprossu because I can
00:08 tonsofpcs whooo
00:08 FunkEngine yay for wheels!
00:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: gonna load it up and drive to MI for good next time?
00:08 Cprossu fuck no lol
00:08 Cprossu unless gas goes back to $.99 a gallon
00:08 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I also have a tin of the most expensive black tea that teavana sells and a bunch of different boxes of flavoured twinings
00:09 Cprossu 1950 miles is nothing to sneeze at lol
00:09 tonsofpcs gas hasn't been $0.99 per gallon since 1993
00:09 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I'm a Rebublic of Tea guy for my "snob" teas. :)
00:09 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: eh, I was back home at teavana and tasted some teas and bought $200 or so...
00:10 FunkEngine Cprossu: I'm looking at about 700 miles when I emigrate. :)
00:10 tonsofpcs I didn't buy "snob" tea though.  I bought the pure black stuff, not the stuff with balls and crap in it.
00:10 BitViper muahahahahah im on da show
00:11 lwq1996 damn that backround music
00:11 FunkEngine Then again I get ~37mpg if I try. :)
00:11 FunkEngine is there a seperate channel for the radio show?
00:11 tonsofpcs there probably should be...
00:12 BitViper FunkEngine : for video and audio, watch the regular live stream, for audio only go to the main site under media
00:12 FunkEngine BitViper: I meant for harassing the hosts. ;-)
00:12 tonsofpcs who is that that just showed up?
00:13 BitViper FunkEngine : only hear
00:13 BitViper *here
00:13 tonsofpcs I can't hear her now...
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00:14 BitViper turn mute off :)
00:14 FunkEngine The labs are literally the fulfillment of everything I ever wanted to do with my life.  This is the first time I have ever felt the urge to pick up and move any great distance.  But I am convinced that my future lies out there.
00:14 lwq1996 yay we got someone that cares!!!! :D
00:15 BitViper lee no we just fake it
00:15 lwq1996 :(
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00:16 BitViper is the stream actually muted ? both streams or only one ?
00:16 FunkEngine All hail the internet, where we can broadcast about BDSM before the watershed...  (Although I did have a girl who was into that.)
00:16 tonsofpcs BitViper: video is working but the audio was all over the place for a bit
00:17 BitViper tonsofpcs is it ok now ? on both streams ?
00:17 tonsofpcs http://www.xkcd.com/1064/ << related to the ropes?
00:17 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Front Door
00:17 tonsofpcs BitViper: no, because bill is failing at working the mic right now for some reason (he's usally pretty good...)
00:17 FunkEngine BitViper: The vide stream feels like the L/R fader got bumped about 18% towards R, but that could also be your stereo compressor doing it.
00:18 FunkEngine She has boobs, she wins.  Sad but true.
00:18 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: the processing needs to be looked at end-to-end and I'm not sure that anyone has done that
00:18 tonsofpcs since there's two 8282s, they could make the two streams match....
00:19 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I'll put it on my list of things to assist with. :)
00:19 BitViper i dont think it has and youre right it needs to be done, bad imo
00:19 FunkEngine www.funkengine.net
00:19 tonsofpcs lol, nicee
00:19 BitViper the audio on the video stream goes through an extra step to get incorporated into the video feed
00:19 FunkEngine I have so many random domains.  www.dirtycableguy.com
00:20 tonsofpcs BitViper: well, two extra steps...
00:20 FunkEngine You can't talk about bears without discussing otters.
00:20 tonsofpcs BitViper: I still think that stereotool could be put on a machine with two audio cards and take care of everything the same plus some minor tweaks to post-processing LPF/HPF to pre-conditon for the different codecs
00:20 tonsofpcs (or perhaps on two different machines)
00:21 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: virtual audio cables.
00:21 FunkEngine just pipe it to two instances of ST.
00:21 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: the issue is that 'radio' isn't always on 'tv' so it's not the same audio.
00:22 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Oh, right, I undserstand now.  Just have to change the path so it doesn't go through two processing steps.
00:22 tonsofpcs 'TV' might need more aggresive processing than 'radio' to account for its wider variety of inputs, too.
00:22 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: right, feed the program (unprocessed) 'radio' to 'TV' (I believe that's how it's done now)
00:22 FunkEngine Well, is there any reason the TV "stream" feed needs anything other than mono?
00:22 tonsofpcs do you disagree with stereo?
00:23 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: for talk radio, yes I do, actually. :3
00:24 FunkEngine Do we have a thread somewhere for planning lab trips?  Coming from the middle of PA, I would totally be cool with picking someone or many someones up along the way to ease my fuel costs...
00:24 tonsofpcs 'TV' isn't talk radio...
00:24 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I posted in General when I went...
00:25 tonsofpcs then cprossu hijacked my thread
00:25 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I'm saying though that if you're watching the video stream you don't really need stereo.
00:25 tonsofpcs the video stream isn't always radio.  In the future, ti'll probably include captains blogs and live productions and ssuch too.
00:25 FunkEngine Yeah but I was thinking more along the lines of planning 60-90 days in advance, so it could be like 5-7 days instead of just out and back.
00:26 tonsofpcs what you could do is the same thing that is traditionally done on processors for radio stations that are dayparted:
00:26 lwq1996 doom chicken has a pimp hat :P
00:26 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Right, but I'm saying that the feed passed from radio destined for video could just be two copies of the left channel.
00:26 tonsofpcs have a switch that drives a contact closure (through a series of tv-tally style relays) to throw the processor into mono.
00:27 FunkEngine That's true, because if you gave it two lefts, it would still try to expand them.  fffff.
00:27 FunkEngine How about just a bypass relay to cut the processor out?
00:27 tonsofpcs no, you still need processing.
00:28 FunkEngine oh, it does more than just stereo expanding?
00:28 tonsofpcs also, if you feed L&R the same, a good processor will do the same on both.
00:28 tonsofpcs yes.
00:28 tonsofpcs STEVE!
00:28 tonsofpcs steve is zombie walking
00:28 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: a _good_ processor, yes.  all the rest will do nasty things.
00:28 tonsofpcs all the rest aren't worth buying.
00:28 tonsofpcs (or implementing, except maybe for STL protection)
00:29 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: have you ever had the JOY of working with a soundweb?
00:29 tonsofpcs we run Jazz, Talk, and Classical.  We do not throw our processing into mono ever.
00:29 tonsofpcs (well, not for content/audio reasons... we sometimes will to facilitate seemless cable swaps)
00:30 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: that looks familiar...
00:30 tonsofpcs I think my college had one or was looking at one for the hockey rink
00:30 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: They were (and still are, kind of...) the BEST FREAKING THING EVER.
00:30 tonsofpcs they run cobranet)
00:31 tonsofpcs bill: you must now read every xkcd before talking again.
00:31 lwq1996 ThunderJuggs: you may find this funny http://xkcd.com/901/
00:31 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Temperature
00:31 FunkEngine I once built an entire internet talk radio station for some nutty right wing host in NJ with a soundweb, 4 Vonage lines, some Telephone Codecs(interface.) and some custom hardware to move the lines.
00:31 FunkEngine www.sporks.de  WORSHIP THE SPORK  (my site.)
00:32 tonsofpcs my craziest chain is Omnia One MC > 512kb MPEG 2 > Orban PC1100 > 32kb ~HEAAC
00:32 tonsofpcs what codecs? comrrex blue boxen?
00:32 lwq1996 http://xkcd.com/247/
00:32 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Factoring the Time
00:32 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I don't remember specifically, but they were the cheapest DECENT ones off of B&H.
00:32 tonsofpcs bill: http://xkcd.com/391/
00:32 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Anti-Mindvirus
00:32 FunkEngine oh, and a nice Heil microphone.
00:33 tonsofpcs I can't hear whoever is talking...
00:34 FunkEngine I used the I/O ports on the back of the soundweb to control relays for the phone lines, and then to make the virtual control panel blink as the lines rang in.  It was a pretty awesome solution that fit in a mini-rack.  Just add internet.
00:34 tonsofpcs my single-rack solution is a TieLine BridgeIT, a Telex 200 headset, and a piece of cat5.  oh, wait, that's 1/2 a RU....
00:35 FunkEngine yes, but can you bild that for $600 and have 4 call in lines, a 30 second digital dump, etc?
00:35 tonsofpcs no, the bridgeit is $1k
00:35 FunkEngine Yeah, I only had $800 to work with, and I wanted $200 for my time and the drive out to Jersey to get it working.
00:36 FunkEngine oh, BitViper: Next time Steve walks by, tell him that Titanium electrodes would work for the water experiment too.  Cheaper than platinum and titanium dioxide is just white pigment...
00:37 tonsofpcs bill: http://xkcd.com/419/
00:37 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Forks and Spoons
00:37 FunkEngine Pizza Boomerang is better.
00:37 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: 1x PC, 2x ethernet cards, 1x livewire driver.
00:38 tonsofpcs $400?
00:38 Carvagon_ wanna watch a bad movie.  watch The Fortress.  holy crap
00:38 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Yeah, but the problem is the host wanted off the shelf hardware solutions.  I wanted to roll with a *nix box but he didn't bite.
00:38 tonsofpcs and that's overpowered ;)
00:38 FunkEngine This was also 2004.
00:39 lwq1996 this is kinda a need http://xkcd.com/481/
00:39 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Listen to Yourself
00:39 tonsofpcs cots hardware: (2x) cheapest PC dell sells. 1x crossover cable.  2x offboard intel NICs.
00:39 tonsofpcs use crossover cable to clone the dell once configured.
00:40 FunkEngine Heh.
00:40 lwq1996 ThunderJuggs: http://xkcd.com/790/ i could see you doing that
00:40 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Control
00:40 tonsofpcs 50 bars of cold pressed latinum!
00:40 FunkEngine The interesting experiment would be give LSD to both groups and scratch your head at the ones who are convinced they got placebo.
00:41 FunkEngine Poor Gibronni just wants to move out of Chris's basement.
00:41 FunkEngine Motivation enough to work.
00:43 FunkEngine speaking of real hearts, someone should do a Safety video on thumper.  Buy like an ox-tongue or something and slap that on the test jig.  Either that or just hot-dogs if you're squeamish.
00:44 FunkEngine He brings nothing to the table.
00:44 tonsofpcs but yea, you sign up for a bunch of SIP lines and run SIP clients all pointed at a different VAC 'output', then build a directshow filter group that mixes them...
00:44 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Virtual Audio Cable.
00:45 tonsofpcs yes, that's what VAC stands for
00:45 tonsofpcs egrsteve: build a cable! quick! :)
00:45 tonsofpcs that's the karaoke mic
00:46 tonsofpcs what mics are they using at the host positions, btw?
00:46 tehdark45 vac = valve anti cheat :P
00:47 FunkEngine BotSteve: tell egrsteve Titanium electrodes would work for the water experiments.  Cheaper than platinum, and titanium dioxide is safe enough to be used in toothpaste.
00:47 BotSteve FunkEngine: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
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00:47 FunkEngine bath salts are wicked.  My mom works for a drug and alcohol rehab company, and they really really screw you up.
00:47 BitViper so how was my heartbeat effect, i couldnt hear it here
00:48 FunkEngine BitViper: Couldn't hear it here too.  I bet the filters took care of it.
00:48 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: appparently wikipedia thinks it's a different thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designer_drug#Inaccurate_descriptions
00:48 BotSteve Title: Designer drug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:48 BitViper figures, bill seemed to like it
00:48 FunkEngine THE WHOLE POINT OF BATH SALTS ARE SO YOU DON'T GO ALL PRUNEY AS QUICKLY!!!
00:49 tonsofpcs aparently it's some meth variant.
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00:50 SirDerpingtonEsq hey all :D
00:50 tonsofpcs you don't need to chip Cprossu, he's got enough already.
00:50 tonsofpcs bill: to track where your hamburger comes from.
00:51 SirDerpingtonEsq you brand them....
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00:51 lwq1996 i think i hear chris
00:51 SirDerpingtonEsq yes
00:51 BitViper you did, briefly
00:52 SirDerpingtonEsq elephants are awesome
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00:55 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: we know who they are, but we don't care.
00:56 SigEpBlue There's a really hairy one....
00:56 FunkEngine unplanned reboots are the best reboots, aparently.
00:56 tonsofpcs newsprint!
00:58 tonsofpcs lots.
00:58 Carvagon_ a 3" diameter roll of paper 42" wide x 150' long is like 20-22 lbs
00:59 tonsofpcs http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/05/19/Railroad-worker-killed-by-newsprint-roll/UPI-56451337401780/
00:59 BotSteve Title: Railroad worker killed by newsprint roll - UPI.com
00:59 FunkEngine That settles it then.
00:59 tonsofpcs 1800 lbs.
00:59 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: ^
01:00 tonsofpcs or BitViper ^
01:00 tonsofpcs this was less than a month ago, btw ^
01:00 tonsofpcs but more importantly, it tells us what we wanted to know: 1800 lbs.
01:01 FunkEngine I wonder what the fatality rate in the Haberdashery industry is...
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01:01 Carvagon_ lol bill is a genious
01:01 SigEpBlue In about 20 minutes (at 21:20, or 9:20 pm), could someone let me in the front door of TGG building? :)
01:01 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I'm sure they've felt loss.
01:01 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Well, for the sake of the experiment, lets not cover Mercury related mortality.
01:02 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: i think you missed that...
01:02 tonsofpcs Haberdashers have felt loss.
01:02 FunkEngine Must have.  recovering from a random reboot.
01:02 FunkEngine ohh.
01:02 FunkEngine bad, bad puns.
01:02 SigEpBlue Heading out right now.....
01:02 tonsofpcs :D
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01:02 BitViper FunkEngine : thats the whole point
01:03 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: ggr Bill: that's why you need benny hill music, to draw attention.
01:03 FunkEngine So since the labs were at one point a YMCA, I wonder if it is still zoned for habitation.  Slap together a bunk-room somewhere.
01:04 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I don't believe it ever was...
01:04 SirDerpingtonEsq the guy who played ham in toy story is in every pixar movie just as another character :)
01:04 tonsofpcs that said, I have no clue what the zoning requirements are in GR
01:04 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Up until like the mid 80s the YMCA was the Gentleman's club for the layman, if you were a member, you could travel to any YMCA in the country and have a place to stay/shower etc.
01:05 SirDerpingtonEsq ie: the song
01:05 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: having seen the layout of this YMCA, I don't think it had any habitation area
01:06 FunkEngine and the building seems old enough to have been around at that point.  I mean I'm pretty sure its not permanent residency approved, but for temporary.
01:06 Carvagon_ im betting it was rezoned.  unless it was grandfathered in
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01:06 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I never said they were good accomadations.  Think a millitary barracks.
01:06 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: it would need a head nearby to where the bunks would be....
01:07 FunkEngine Didn't it have like 8 bathrooms, even BEFORE they added female facilities.
01:07 tehdark45 oh no its a wannabe1987
01:07 FunkEngine I bet the female facilities were put when they stopped being a bunkhouse.
01:07 wannabe1987 yay!  Cprossu made it home
01:07 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
01:07 BotSteve At 00:07Z, Cprossu asked me to tell wannabe1987 no problem ;)
01:07 wannabe1987 :D
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01:08 SirDerpingtonEsq hi dan!
01:08 wannabe1987 hi maglinvinn!
01:08 maglinvinn i thought this was thursdays.
01:08 SirDerpingtonEsq it is thursday....
01:08 maglinvinn am i like, crazy and missing wed or something.
01:08 maglinvinn hm
01:08 maglinvinn i am crazy
01:08 maglinvinn ok.  thats all i needed, thanks
01:08 SirDerpingtonEsq we know :)
01:08 SirDerpingtonEsq and we love you
01:09 FunkEngine wannabe1987: did you get my PM, or were you packed up by the time I got it to you?
01:09 maglinvinn ehh
01:09 maglinvinn i need a IR based range finder
01:09 maglinvinn 30 in range
01:09 tonsofpcs what is the optimal ball stuffing algorithm?
01:09 maglinvinn the one i'm looking at is 12 bucks
01:09 maglinvinn but i need it faster than they can deliver
01:09 maglinvinn *wonders if the lab has any*  lol.
01:09 FunkEngine why does it have to be IR?  Aren't the sonar ones cheaper, AND they can tell you volume?
01:10 * maglinvinn wants to experiment with IR range finding through a mirror.
01:10 maglinvinn mirror.  :)
01:10 FunkEngine through?  uhmm.
01:10 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: the only space that would make sense, physically, doesn't location-wise and that's the area that is the lounge/cafe/display area to the right of the main street entrance.
01:10 maglinvinn via mirror
01:10 FunkEngine maglinvinn: ok, as long as it is a Primary Surface mirror, you're good to go. :)
01:11 Tarsman013 :)
01:11 maglinvinn like, sensor, mirror, object
01:11 maglinvinn and the mirror can rotate
01:12 wannabe1987 i got it FunkEngine
01:12 FunkEngine a quick GIS for ymca bunk gives stuff like http://campwoodstock.org/library/images/roskinbunk.jpg  so think Hostel.
01:12 wannabe1987 its ok maglinvinn, i don't know what day it is unless i have to work...
01:12 Monkeh Cprossu: You about?
01:12 FunkEngine also, http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/73/9c/53/bath-ymca.jpg
01:12 maglinvinn but yeah, i'm building a single laser, frameless, with range finding, laser harp
01:12 wannabe1987 also, friend request :P
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01:13 wannabe1987 hi grant
01:13 gjposner hi!
01:14 Tarsman013 hey
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01:14 Katemonster hey, it's a toaster.
01:14 wannabe1987 toasters?!
01:14 FunkEngine wannabe1987: friend req accepted, I think. :)
01:14 lwq1996 TOAST FUCKING DUDE
01:14 wannabe1987 yep
01:14 Toastdude It's a Kate!
01:14 lwq1996 hey kate http://xkcd.com/797/
01:14 BotSteve Title: xkcd: debian-main
01:15 wannabe1987 he is not fucking
01:15 Toastdude Hi Lee! :P
01:15 Katemonster it is no such thing.
01:15 ThunderJuggs HI KELLY!!!!
01:15 wannabe1987 HI LISA!
01:15 FunkEngine but yeah, the stereo image on the vide feed is totally bonked.
01:15 wannabe1987 I SEE YOU
01:15 lwq1996 really you guys?
01:15 wannabe1987 happens.  Cprossu isn't here to fix it
01:15 ThunderJuggs you missed balls in my mouth!!
01:15 wannabe1987 yes lee
01:15 Katemonster hah
01:15 wannabe1987 i'm sorry!
01:15 lwq1996 lol
01:16 ThunderJuggs it was funny looking
01:16 wannabe1987 LOL i bet it was
01:16 egrsteve what?
01:16 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
01:16 BotSteve At 00:47Z, FunkEngine asked me to tell egrsteve Titanium electrodes would work for the water experiments.  Cheaper than platinum, and titanium dioxide is safe enough to be used in toothpaste.
01:16 ThunderJuggs woot!
01:16 lwq1996 AND IM REJECTED!!!!
01:17 ThunderJuggs KELLY  http://www.trolino.com/image?id=5026 !!!!
01:17 wannabe1987 lol yep
01:17 ThunderJuggs yay
01:17 wannabe1987 no, lee, you are not
01:17 lwq1996 yes i was :P
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01:17 * lwq1996 goes back to sulking
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01:18 wannabe1987 hi turbowz!
01:18 lwq1996 carolyn :D
01:18 Tarsman013 yo
01:19 Tarsman013 neighbor
01:19 Tarsman013 :P
01:19 Turbo998 hey
01:19 lwq1996 ? im no neighbor. im like 500miles away
01:19 lwq1996 whoops
01:19 lwq1996 mistaken the two t's
01:19 Katemonster Carolyn?
01:19 Turbo998 yes?
01:19 gjposner hi carolyn
01:19 wannabe1987 :shrug:  i'm confused
01:19 gjposner lol
01:19 Katemonster ........nothing.
01:19 Tarsman013 no carolyn is my neighbor :D
01:20 gjposner and mine o.0
01:20 Turbo998 lol
01:20 gjposner awesome music by the way lol
01:20 gjposner who is this?
01:20 * Tarsman013 is enjoying the music choice
01:20 gjposner i need this album ha ha
01:20 Tarsman013 we are twins....
01:20 wannabe1987 rush
01:20 gjposner its rush, really?
01:20 FunkEngine Geeks at a dance.  You'd need a lot of walls.  Not so much dance floor.
01:21 gjposner lol
01:21 gjposner yep
01:21 Turbo998 lol
01:21 lwq1996 you and grant are twins?
01:21 wannabe1987 ...
01:21 Turbo998 yes they are..
01:21 lwq1996 i have a twin too :P
01:21 lwq1996 though mines a bitch :/
01:21 Turbo998 :/
01:21 Tarsman013 mine too!
01:21 Turbo998 LMAO
01:21 gjposner Zapp-I can make you dance
01:21 Tarsman013 <3
01:21 lwq1996 LOLOLOLOL
01:21 Turbo998 hehe
01:21 gjposner -_-
01:21 gjposner ass
01:21 Turbo998 lol
01:21 gjposner lol
01:21 Tarsman013 gjposner is my identical twin <3
01:22 lwq1996 mmmmm i can feel the love
01:22 gjposner yes, yes I am
01:22 gjposner oh so much of it...
01:22 Turbo998 hehe its there..........................somewhere...
01:22 Turbo998 lol
01:22 Tarsman013 but a voluptuous one ;)
01:22 FunkEngine wannabe1987: So if we somehow manage to pull off the halfway-house thing, I'll totally bring my awesome laundry machines... :3
01:22 wannabe1987 o really?  what kind?
01:23 FunkEngine They're whirlpool duet sport or something.  Basically they're HE, and they can handle a real king size comforter with ease.
01:23 * Katemonster has completely lost track of what's going on.
01:23 wannabe1987 ahhhh nice.  i  think my mom has those....front lloading, right?
01:23 FunkEngine yep.  Stackable.  I like clean clothes.  I hate laundromats.
01:24 lwq1996 OH GOD DAMN I CAN SEE THE IDENTICALNESS
01:24 Turbo998 grant you should really do that aqualandscaping project i sent you
01:24 Tarsman013 :D
01:24 wannabe1987 omg lee
01:24 Turbo998 and lol
01:24 lwq1996 i know i should stop swearing :/
01:24 Tarsman013 my take is spaced pretty damn good... need more room though :D
01:24 Tarsman013 fuck fuck fuck yay internet
01:25 Turbo998 so you are going to try it?
01:25 gjposner i think we should too
01:25 Turbo998 it is neat
01:25 gjposner but i dont have a tank lol
01:25 livefiretj mah
01:25 Turbo998 did you send him the picture I sent you?
01:25 gjposner http://aquariuminfo.org/aquascaping.html
01:25 Tarsman013 yes, but i need more room, 30gal at least...
01:25 Turbo998 with the site?
01:25 BotSteve Title: A guide to aquascaping the planted aquarium
01:25 gjposner no
01:25 Turbo998 do it
01:25 Turbo998 lol
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01:25 gjposner sent it to him
01:26 Turbo998 Also, we coudl just start up another tank! :)
01:26 torpid joined #thegeekgroup
01:26 Turbo998 more fishys
01:26 gjposner you can buy it.. lol
01:26 Turbo998 lol
01:26 Turbo998 maybe
01:26 Turbo998 if you help me aquascape it lol
01:26 gjposner its not cheap
01:26 Turbo998 I knwo this
01:26 gjposner no lol
01:26 Turbo998 know*
01:26 Tarsman013 i have a plant growing on a log :D
01:26 Turbo998 I need a new project anyways
01:26 Tarsman013 its awesome
01:26 Turbo998 and you do?
01:26 Turbo998 lol
01:26 gjposner clean my room? lol
01:26 Turbo998 i bet
01:26 gjposner or make me a sandwich
01:26 Turbo998 lol lets do it!
01:26 Turbo998 lol
01:26 Tarsman013 doing that shit is so god damn expensive
01:26 Turbo998 You sandwich whore
01:26 Turbo998 lol
01:27 Turbo998 but it looks awesome when it is done!
01:27 Turbo998 worth it
01:27 wannabe1987 <3 christina
01:27 wannabe1987 we're coming back on air! :D
01:27 gjposner if you pay for it it is worth it lol
01:27 Tarsman013 YAY!!!!!
01:27 Turbo998 lol
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01:27 Tarsman013 and guys... its sammich not sandwich
01:27 gjposner yay
01:27 Tarsman013 YAY!!!!
01:28 Tarsman013 <3
01:28 Turbo998 I might.. my dad has this HUGE tank sitting in his garage.. might see about getting that from him
01:28 Turbo998 and lol
01:28 Tarsman013 do want
01:28 Tarsman013 biggest allowed at leo is 20gal :(
01:28 gjposner over 30 gal is not allowed at leo i think
01:28 gjposner of
01:28 gjposner oh*
01:28 Turbo998 rawr... we will figure this out.. >.>
01:28 gjposner youre a guy, you shouldnt know what one is lol
01:28 Tarsman013 or something close lol
01:28 FunkEngine wannabe1987: so just for my own research; What's the cost of living like out there.  my reference is I'm in an 850sq ft 2nd floor 2br apartment, with central air, electric hot water, and trash removal provided.  That runs me $610, then about $160 in electricity, $40/month water/sewer, $80 internet, uhmm that's about it. $900/month not including food I guess.  Comparable out there?
01:29 Tarsman013 haha hair styles and male geeks
01:29 FunkEngine Tarsman013: hairstyles?  Pfft.  Buzzcuts.
01:29 Turbo998 spiral perms... no
01:29 wannabe1987 yes FunkEngine
01:29 Tarsman013 damn right
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01:29 wannabe1987 also, what are you guys talking about "Tanks" for?
01:29 Tarsman013 fish tanks
01:29 FunkEngine aquaculture.
01:29 Turbo998 cool stuffs
01:29 wannabe1987 ah
01:29 Turbo998 lol
01:29 FunkEngine its like underwater topiary.
01:29 Tarsman013 very very intricate ones :)
01:29 wannabe1987 here fishy fishy!
01:29 Tarsman013 yes
01:30 Tarsman013 i <3 my fish
01:30 wannabe1987 zozo wants a fish tank to have a watercooled computer in!
01:30 Tarsman013 even if they are derpy
01:30 Turbo998 I came across the idea today.. thought it was awesome, so I shared it lol
01:30 Turbo998 DERP
01:30 Turbo998 lol
01:30 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: throw it outside in teh rain :-p
01:30 gjposner i love derp
01:30 FunkEngine Good, so I could probably go back to living with a room-mate by donating my stuff to the labs, and enjoy living for under $500/month again.
01:30 gjposner leave him alone!
01:30 SirDerpingtonEsq :D
01:30 gjposner lol
01:30 gjposner hi derp
01:30 SirDerpingtonEsq hieeee
01:30 wannabe1987 yes FunkEngine
01:30 Turbo998 lol You just scream as derp all the time
01:30 SirDerpingtonEsq hows you guaize doings?
01:31 gjposner gooooooooooooooood lol
01:31 Turbo998 lol
01:31 SirDerpingtonEsq YEAHEHAHAHAAAAAA
01:31 gjposner frosted tips are stupid gay..
01:31 SirDerpingtonEsq no no tips
01:31 tonsofpcs bill: no, you don't.
01:31 gjposner (no offense to the gay people out there..)
01:31 SirDerpingtonEsq are you from the jersey shore???
01:31 Turbo998 lmao
01:31 FunkEngine I'm pretty easy to please.  Aircon, dishwasher, garbage disposal, and laundry hookup.  Windows optional.;
01:31 tehdark45 frosted tips are 90s, not gay
01:31 tehdark45 LO
01:31 tehdark45 L
01:31 tonsofpcs someone said to turn the radio send down a bit...
01:31 gjposner lol
01:31 SigEpBlue Could someone pleeeeze let me in the front door? :)
01:31 tehdark45 no
01:31 tonsofpcs tehdark45: uh... both.
01:32 wannabe1987 i don't ahve a dishwasher....i do my own dishes, damnit
01:32 FunkEngine SigEpBlue: You didn't do the secret knock.
01:32 tehdark45 wannabe1987, power washer
01:32 wannabe1987 lol
01:32 SirDerpingtonEsq i have a dishwasher... her name is consuela
01:32 SirDerpingtonEsq :D
01:32 SigEpBlue Awww....!
01:32 * wannabe1987 remembers who SigEpBlue is now....why are you not here?
01:32 gjposner lol animal abuse
01:32 FunkEngine wannabe1987: I cook.  Having to clean it all up takes some of the joy out of it.
01:32 Turbo998 @grant/jon :  michael wants me to dye my hair red.... :/
01:32 gjposner no
01:32 SigEpBlue Its my birthday.
01:32 gjposner its cause he is a pervert lol
01:32 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: i LOVE cooking
01:32 SirDerpingtonEsq its cause he likes red hair
01:32 SirDerpingtonEsq and plaid
01:32 Turbo998 I know
01:33 SirDerpingtonEsq and bacon
01:33 Turbo998 he has told me that ..
01:33 wannabe1987 ahhhhh birthdays are good.  have a happpy one.  why have you not added me on fb yet :P
01:33 Turbo998 and that
01:33 tehdark45 plaid red hair?
01:33 SirDerpingtonEsq yes
01:33 Turbo998 lmao
01:33 SirDerpingtonEsq nao
01:33 Turbo998 no
01:33 FunkEngine Someone go open the door for the Birthday person.
01:33 SigEpBlue I suck? lol
01:33 SirDerpingtonEsq someone is at the door
01:33 gjposner not at our door jon lol
01:33 Turbo998 It was funny bc he had said to dye it red when I was wearing plaid and making bacon.. he said it would make me "the perfect woman"
01:33 SirDerpingtonEsq WHAT THE FUCK>>>>
01:33 Turbo998 >.<
01:33 wannabe1987 lol they were pounding....
01:34 Turbo998 lol
01:34 gjposner lol
01:34 tehdark45 O_o
01:34 SigEpBlue Im in front, btw.
01:34 gjposner giggity?
01:34 SirDerpingtonEsq and british accent
01:34 Turbo998 yup
01:34 FunkEngine shine a laser in, maybe they'll see it.
01:34 SirDerpingtonEsq call someone
01:34 Turbo998 my video is derping.. it may just be my internet though..
01:34 tehdark45 jolly good show old bean
01:35 gjposner its you
01:35 gjposner works fine for me
01:35 Turbo998 ug
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq nope, video is fine... are you on our router?
01:35 FunkEngine someone just got up to open the door.
01:35 gjposner i dont think she is
01:35 Turbo998 No I am not. You still havent given me the password
01:35 gjposner i never gave her the password
01:35 Turbo998 ^told ya
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq o
01:35 gjposner she can watch porn on the schools router
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq well
01:35 Turbo998 could I come over?
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq ya
01:35 gjposner ive seen the shit she watches
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq sucks for you
01:35 gjposner its crazy!
01:35 Turbo998 -.-
01:35 SirDerpingtonEsq raunchy shit?
01:36 gjposner makes 2 girls one cup look like my little pony
01:36 Turbo998 -.-
01:36 Turbo998 dont be hatin!
01:36 Turbo998 lol
01:36 SirDerpingtonEsq bme pain olympics?
01:36 gjposner YOU PUNTED A KITTEN?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??????
01:36 SirDerpingtonEsq 2 guys 1 bottle?
01:36 Turbo998 -.-
01:36 Turbo998 lol
01:36 wannabe1987 lol SigEpBlue: next time just say "wannabe open the door" and i'll know whats up :P
01:36 SirDerpingtonEsq HOW DARE YOU PUNT THE KITTEN GET OFF OF THE INTERNET
01:36 Turbo998 lmao
01:37 gjposner Bill is a hack and needs to get off the internet
01:37 wannabe1987 you're a hack, get off the internet?
01:37 wannabe1987 damn
01:37 gjposner lol
01:37 gjposner FIRST!
01:37 Cprossu what in the world lol
01:37 wannabe1987 i had spelling issues....or i woulda been first
01:37 Turbo998 lol
01:37 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu!
01:37 wannabe1987 glad you made it home, btw
01:37 Cprossu hey wannabe1987
01:37 Cprossu thanks!
01:37 Cprossu glad to be home it's nice out!
01:37 tonsofpcs if someone's gonna talk, they should have a mic.....
01:37 SirDerpingtonEsq hey
01:37 Cprossu .weather 85021
01:37 BotSteve Clear ☼, 100.4℉ (38℃), 29.72in (1003mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KPHX 00:51Z
01:37 gjposner lol
01:37 wannabe1987 thats HOT
01:38 SirDerpingtonEsq 100 degrees
01:38 gjposner .weather 33574
01:38 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 75.2℉ (24℃), 29.94in (1011mb), Light Rain, Calm 0kt (↑) - KTPA, 00:53Z
01:38 SirDerpingtonEsq what the hell
01:38 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: donate more mics and cables
01:38 SirDerpingtonEsq COOL
01:38 wannabe1987 meow
01:38 gjposner awwwww :(
01:38 Turbo998 I wanna kitten...
01:38 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: there's plenty...
01:38 gjposner I HEAR THE DEVIL CAT!!!!!
01:38 tonsofpcs egrsteve: note: videoo/audio sync is horribly off
01:39 Turbo998 ^yup
01:39 Turbo998 DONT EAT THE KITTY
01:39 Turbo998 O.o
01:39 gjposner yes
01:39 SirDerpingtonEsq bill.... you are mean
01:39 Turbo998 :'(
01:39 SirDerpingtonEsq ;(
01:39 * JA12 wonders if there's a 2 girls 1 cup dvd that he could buy for his friends' kids instead of pingu
01:39 Turbo998 sadness is overwhelming
01:39 wannabe1987 tons: told him
01:39 SirDerpingtonEsq WHAT THE FUCK.....
01:39 Cprossu hey ThunderJuggs wannabe1987 and everyone
01:39 gjposner dafuq????
01:39 ThunderJuggs SUP
01:39 Cprossu I am back in phoenix, and happy!
01:39 tonsofpcs thanks kelly
01:39 Turbo998 uh...
01:39 wannabe1987 np
01:39 SirDerpingtonEsq cool!
01:39 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oxymoronic statement of the year?
01:39 gjposner thunderjuggs your nickname is awesome
01:40 Turbo998 lol
01:40 Cprossu btw the stream sounds pretty good
01:40 gjposner yes it does
01:40 Cprossu and it's fluid too
01:40 gjposner minus the punting cats
01:40 Cprossu *yay*
01:40 SirDerpingtonEsq ya sound is nice
01:40 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you know the details of HDMI?
01:40 Cprossu good evening egrsteve
01:40 Cprossu hahaha
01:41 tonsofpcs thanks tggMC steve :)
01:41 gjposner lol
01:41 tonsofpcs also, yu totally cut off your last thing
01:41 SirDerpingtonEsq all better
01:41 SirDerpingtonEsq :)
01:41 FunkEngine that was quick, but the stereo is a bit more balanced.
01:41 tonsofpcs it is.  was quite quick.
01:41 gjposner works great now!
01:41 Turbo998 sooo much better
01:41 Carvagon_ awesome
01:42 Cprossu weee
01:42 gjposner bunnies are cute :(
01:42 gjposner lol
01:42 tonsofpcs Bill: you should have moved your thoughts to her :-p
01:42 SirDerpingtonEsq bill.... you need help
01:42 wannabe1987 agreed
01:42 gjposner yes he does
01:42 gjposner we all do
01:42 Turbo998 you and bunnies grant.... yesh
01:42 Turbo998 lol
01:42 SirDerpingtonEsq poor wittle wrabbet
01:43 wannabe1987 ThunderJuggs: bill needs help
01:43 Turbo998 lol
01:43 gjposner was she hot?
01:43 gjposner lol
01:43 ThunderJuggs lol duh
01:43 FunkEngine thanks egrsteve! it worked.
01:43 Turbo998 chest bump with a bunny... yeah... awesome
01:43 egrsteve better?
01:43 Cprossu I am guessing so
01:44 egrsteve good
01:44 Cprossu whats cookin' egrsteve?
01:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you know the details of HDMI?
01:44 egrsteve did you hear my announcment?
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01:44 tonsofpcs bill: you mean a Geo Tracker?
01:44 Cprossu HD...NI?
01:44 Cprossu ?!
01:44 FunkEngine egrsteve: on the LEFT channel, yes.
01:44 tonsofpcs egrsteve: much, yes.
01:44 Cprossu ooh
01:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ok, so what would you do if you wanted the details of HDMI?
01:44 Cprossu *wasn't scaled
01:44 wannabe1987 lol
01:44 egrsteve hmm, I wonder if the MC mic is panned
01:45 gjposner egrsteve yes, you hijacked the stream
01:45 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: You pay a whole lot to the standards body, sadly.
01:45 Cprossu a shit ton
01:45 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: if you wanted them casually, not the full spec
01:45 FunkEngine Metric Buttloads.
01:45 Cprossu HDCP needed?
01:45 Cprossu ^ @ tonsofpcs
01:45 tonsofpcs like, "how does it encode video on those wires"
01:45 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I'm sure there's a DVI spec in the public domain.
01:45 tonsofpcs but what would you do if you wanted such?
01:45 gjposner no you slur your words :)
01:45 Turbo998 lol
01:46 FunkEngine www.hdmi.org I think?
01:46 Cprossu I think I'll just be a brain dead listener today! weee!
01:46 tonsofpcs like, you're sitting at a computer and are curious "gee, how does hdmi work", what would you do?
01:46 Cprossu look at DVI
01:46 wannabe1987 google it, duh
01:46 FunkEngine http://www.hdmi.org/pdf/whitepaper/SilicaonImageHDMIWhitePaperv73(2).pdf specifically I think.
01:46 tonsofpcs thank you wannabe1987 :)
01:47 Cprossu HDMI is essentially dvi signals over a different connector
01:47 Cprossu and they have lines for audio too
01:47 FunkEngine in all reality I bet you just get a HDMI/DVI transciever chip and work off of that.
01:47 tonsofpcs can you go explain that to this guy whose nick is "NotTooDumb" in another channel? :-p
01:47 wannabe1987 LOL
01:47 wannabe1987 no
01:47 Cprossu in ##video?
01:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes lol
01:47 wannabe1987 but you can copy what i said
01:48 Cprossu nope tonsofpcs brain dead for now
01:48 SirDerpingtonEsq seriously bill....
01:48 Turbo998 joined #thegeekgroup
01:48 tonsofpcs I want to just slam him into a glass window with a giant google logo behind it....
01:48 FunkEngine In tonight's broadcast: We assert dominance over lesser vertebrates.
01:48 FunkEngine send him a lmgtfy link.
01:48 tonsofpcs maybe I should have bill talk to him like he's an animal
01:48 gjposner lol
01:49 gjposner next weeks guest bindi irwin lol
01:49 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: unfortunately, I run the channel and try to keep it civil... so I need someone to yell at publicly for it :-p
01:49 Monkeh Ah, a wild Cprossu appears
01:49 Turbo998 lol
01:49 wannabe1987 MONKEH!
01:49 FunkEngine Its a justifiable aversion!
01:49 Monkeh Cprossu: HDMI doesn't have 'lines' for audio, it goes over the same pins as video. ;)
01:50 Monkeh wannabe1987: Yeeees?
01:50 SirDerpingtonEsq may be the entire hating dogs, cats and every other cute animal... they know
01:50 wannabe1987 hi
01:50 tonsofpcs yyea, it is embedded just like in SDI
01:50 tonsofpcs that's why HDMI <> SDI converters  are dirt cheap
01:50 Turbo998 Bill scares me... he kicks kittens..
01:50 Turbo998 O.o
01:50 gjposner and dogs
01:50 Turbo998 :/
01:50 FunkEngine Bill's life in one phrase:  "Women may happen."
01:50 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Decode datastream, reencode datastream. Not a lot to do, really.
01:50 tonsofpcs and it's harder to find one that doesn't pass audio
01:51 Monkeh wannabe1987: Sup?
01:51 Turbo998 he likes to cause awkward moments... lmao
01:51 gjposner giggity
01:51 FunkEngine DON'T LICK THE BATCAVE!
01:51 wannabe1987 not much, tbh.  creeping out christina, i think
01:52 Monkeh I'm speccing up a future-proofing PC for a local charity.
01:52 Turbo998 lol
01:52 wannabe1987 cool
01:52 gjposner gene simmons..
01:52 Monkeh Microsoft donate copies of Windows to charities :|
01:52 wannabe1987 thanks ThunderJuggs
01:52 Cprossu Monkeh: want to borrow my delorean?
01:52 Monkeh That's £100 saved instantly.
01:52 * lwq1996 hears christina scream. -laughs ass off-
01:52 Monkeh Cprossu: Heh, no, but perhaps your advice if you've used any of this hardware :P
01:53 Cprossu I may be able to help there
01:53 Sgt_Lemming huzzah! my chips have arrived :-D
01:53 lwq1996 EVERYONE WISH LISA A HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!! -tomorrow is her birthday btw-
01:53 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Made of potato or silicon and epoxy?
01:53 Sgt_Lemming silicon
01:53 Monkeh Cprossu: Please hold while websites flail around
01:54 Sgt_Lemming ATMega328P-PU
01:54 lwq1996 ThunderJuggs: HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY
01:54 * Cprossu wants a germanium microprocessor
01:54 Cprossu lol they gave superman birthday spanks
01:54 * Sgt_Lemming wants a graphene microprocessor
01:54 Sgt_Lemming or a nanotube based one
01:54 wannabe1987 LOOL
01:54 Turbo998 happy reunion of the great escape from the womb lisa!
01:55 lwq1996 we can celebrate with bottle rockets :D
01:55 Cprossu oh, let christina know I made it safe and sound back to Arizona.
01:55 gjposner moist
01:55 Turbo998 lol
01:55 gjposner most awkward work ever
01:55 Turbo998 :)
01:55 gjposner moist
01:56 Turbo998 hehe I am clever ;)
01:56 Turbo998 lol
01:56 wannabe1987 Cprossu: do they spray paint lawns green in az?
01:56 Monkeh Cprossu: Gigabyte GA-A75-UD4H vs Asus F1A75, thoughts?
01:56 tonsofpcs bill: they do that for tennis courts...
01:56 Cprossu wannabe1987: yes.
01:57 Cprossu hrmmmmm socket FM1...
01:57 egrsteve ouch
01:57 wannabe1987 lol
01:57 Monkeh Cprossu: More specifically, Etron EJ168 USB3 controller.
01:57 wannabe1987 "arizona is like the land of far-far-away....they ahve pixies and weird al probably lives there"
01:57 Monkeh That's about the grand difference between the boards.
01:57 wannabe1987 i love christina's way with words
01:57 Cprossu ahhhhhh so the usb3 is what you're going after??
01:58 Cprossu I am just wondering why you're going for a socket FM1 platform
01:58 Monkeh Cprossu: It's future-proofing, so yeah, I want USB3 and specifically a board with a real USB3 header.
01:58 tonsofpcs ok, time to dump ggr, g'nite bill/lisa/people not watching IRC in the room
01:58 Cprossu you should be able to get that with an AM3+ board
01:58 Monkeh Cprossu: And the A4/A6 CPUs look good.
01:58 Cprossu I would think
01:58 Monkeh I didn't see any from Asus or Gigabyte
01:59 Monkeh Not with onboard video
01:59 Monkeh (it's cheaper to go FM1 than buy a seperate GPU)
01:59 Cprossu ooooooh
01:59 Cprossu so you want the ondie gpu
01:59 wannabe1987 i have a mic now :D
01:59 eadthem you can do a rather respecitable gaming system with FM1
01:59 Cprossu what's our budget look like?
01:59 Monkeh Cprossu: Unknown, they have a meeting next Wednesday and I'm giving them the proposal on Monday.
01:59 Cprossu yeah but as for it being futreproof your upgrade options won't be that good
02:00 Cprossu ok
02:00 Monkeh Cprossu: By 'future proof' I mean 'lasts five years+ without ending up too slow to work with'
02:00 Monkeh Like their current box, which is plain and simple too slow to continue being used
02:00 Cprossu rofl
02:00 eadthem FM1 shuld be ok   not as well as AM3 however
02:01 lwq1996 FUCK YOU WINDSTREAM!!!!!!!
02:01 Monkeh Everything about it is just too slow to be workable considering the time investment
02:01 eadthem MSI 990FXA-GD80 V2 is a nice board if you want to go AM3+
02:01 Monkeh eadthem: I was intentionally avoiding MSI.
02:01 wannabe1987 "suggestive tongue wiggles"
02:02 Monkeh eadthem: No onboard video.
02:02 Cprossu MSI is feast or famon
02:02 lwq1996 right at 10pm everytime windstream throatles down my connection
02:02 tonsofpcs famine
02:03 Monkeh Cprossu: So yeah, the main difference between those boards really is that USB3 controller. If it's no good, I'll go with the Asus.
02:03 Cprossu we really need to redo those
02:03 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/535build.htm
02:03 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com Shopping Cart
02:03 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/555build.htm
02:03 Cprossu yeah Asus is usally a good bet
02:03 wannabe1987 bill: i sold my ass to the mafia to get out of china
02:03 eadthem thats 2 systems i put together for someone who wanted a 500$ ish system
02:03 Cprossu gigabytes' have been nice though
02:03 Monkeh Cprossu: I've had good experiences with Gigabyte, Asus are about the only other valid choice for a non-gaming system nowadays, so.. :)
02:04 Cprossu either way you won't get a bad board
02:04 Monkeh The Gigabyte is cheaper and has firewire too
02:04 eadthem i was told it could run mystian or whatnot at good framerates
02:04 Cprossu it need to last 5 years or longer Monkeh?
02:04 Monkeh Cprossu: That's the idea.
02:04 Cprossu I'd go with the Asus
02:04 eadthem and both are asus
02:04 Monkeh I've already settled on a quad-core unless price is a serious concern
02:05 Cprossu I still am mixed about the bulldozer cores
02:05 Cprossu but they seem to be performing ok
02:05 eadthem one is a FM1  and the one that cost 20$ more is AM3 with offboard gfx
02:05 Cprossu now they fixed the scheduler it seems nicer
02:05 Monkeh Cprossu: Nothing is going to compete price/performance with the A4/A6 series for this end of the market
02:06 eadthem Monkeh  500$ area right
02:06 Monkeh eadthem: I do not know.
02:06 Cprossu Monkeh ain't there a decent sandy bridge core i3 dual core floating around?
02:06 Monkeh eadthem: And please remember our prices have nothing in common with yours.
02:06 eadthem right your not in the area
02:07 Cprossu very true
02:07 Monkeh Cprossu: They _start_ £20 more than the E6 I've picked, boards are more expensive..
02:07 eadthem well theres 2 options   the AM3+ was never built
02:07 eadthem the FM1 was built  and ran games quite decently
02:07 Cprossu ok, if that's the case, you're good to go
02:07 Cprossu man I am tired
02:08 Cprossu lol
02:08 eadthem i agree with Cprossu that im not sure how upgradeable FM1 is
02:08 Monkeh Upgrades are essentially not a consideration
02:08 Cprossu well it's at least 'as upgradable' as 1155 will be
02:08 eadthem all i know is there are new cpu's on AMD's roadmap for FM1
02:08 Monkeh By the time they get around to 'hmm, we may need a faster computer' there won't _be_ anything available to upgrade it
02:09 eadthem and the board supports offboard gfx
02:09 Cprossu well I think considering the facts,
02:09 Cprossu the A6 makes a ton of sense here in FM1
02:09 Cprossu I wouldn't use the term future-proof with it
02:09 Cprossu but it's a good box
02:10 injektion http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/2012/06/amd_video_drivers_prevent_the.html
02:10 eadthem iirc there is a A8 planned
02:10 BotSteve Title: CERT/CC Blog: AMD video drivers prevent the use of the most secure setting for Microsoft's Exploit Mitigation Experience Toolkit (EMET)
02:10 Monkeh eadthem: That will push the price up fairly significantly.
02:10 Monkeh I don't intend to go in and say 'spend £800 and spend another £200 in two years'
02:10 Cprossu injektion: since when did any of those attempts actually work?
02:10 eadthem whats 800 in $
02:10 Cprossu *cough UAC*
02:10 Monkeh eadthem: A lot.
02:11 injektion Like most people I have UAC off
02:11 Monkeh Again, forget about comparing prices
02:11 eadthem uac?
02:11 Cprossu exactly
02:11 Monkeh Cprossu: That controller is, apparently, crap.. Asus it is.
02:11 injektion Cprossu, I really think MS should of done UAC differently and made the user put their login password in
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02:11 Cprossu eadthem: the part of vista that trained new computer users how to ignore important information and infect their own computers with spyware
02:12 Monkeh Cprossu: At least in the past they could claim ignorance.
02:12 Cprossu I think they should have just gone about the implementation differently
02:12 Cprossu especially considering it took a whole two weeks for a 'sploit which bypassed the whole damn thing to show up
02:12 Monkeh Cprossu: It never takes long for Microsoft's efforts to be laughed at.
02:13 Monkeh Look at the original Xbox.
02:13 Monkeh Every hardware revision, a new modchip in a matter of weeks. And that's _hardware_.
02:13 Cprossu Monkeh: remember the power supply fires?
02:13 injektion Look at Windows 8 *ducks*
02:13 Monkeh Cprossu: Never had any myself :)
02:13 Cprossu they were faulty solder joints
02:13 Monkeh Maybe it's that higher voltage of ours winning through again
02:13 Cprossu on the AC in right
02:13 Cprossu no Monkeh, lead free solder
02:14 Monkeh Less current = less heat. :)
02:14 Cprossu and bad soldering
02:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, I know.
02:14 Cprossu microsoft said it was not a defect
02:14 Monkeh Lead-free solder is killing things.
02:14 Cprossu do you know what MS's fix was?
02:14 Monkeh Lead-free + cheap design = failed hardware.
02:14 Cprossu a power adaptor with a GFGI built into it
02:14 Cprossu for when it would short out
02:14 Thermoelectric They could have repurposed them into fireplaces instead?
02:14 Monkeh Cprossu: GFCI wouldn't do anything. You mean AFCI?
02:15 Cprossu Monkeh: i've been on a airplane for 3+ hours today my brain is not funtional
02:15 Cprossu and I got 2 hours of sleep
02:15 Monkeh :)
02:15 Cprossu anyway whatever
02:15 gjposner LIVE!!!!!
02:15 Cprossu they didn't fix the problem they fixed the symptom
02:15 Monkeh Cprossu: I managed to find a way to get Windows free at any rate :)
02:16 gjposner i dont see blue
02:16 Cprossu I think I am crashing
02:16 * Monkeh presses Cprossu's reset button
02:16 gjposner uh oh
02:16 gjposner f5
02:16 gjposner f5
02:16 gjposner f5
02:16 gjposner f
02:16 gjposner 55
02:16 gjposner lol
02:16 wannabe1987 gjposner is spamming....i can kick!
02:16 wannabe1987 but
02:16 Cprossu ask bill if he's seen the NOC yet wannabe1987 lol
02:16 gjposner what? :(
02:16 wannabe1987 um Cprossu, you've been "on" for a few weeks/months, you deserve to crash
02:17 Cprossu I think we just lost the feed
02:17 Cprossu or something
02:17 gjposner chris free balls?
02:17 gjposner in jeans?
02:17 gjposner ouch
02:17 Cprossu there we go
02:17 wannabe1987 ....
02:17 wannabe1987 yes gjposner
02:17 gjposner how is he not like.. raw
02:17 gjposner you can hone knives on jeans..
02:17 FunkEngine Every noc must have a Relic.
02:17 wannabe1987 because, gjposner, he's boden
02:17 wannabe1987 duh
02:18 Turbo998 lol
02:18 gjposner lol
02:18 Turbo998 wow
02:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Oh, one other item. Heatsinks.
02:18 Monkeh Cprossu: So far, I'm looking at a Hyper 212, unless you have other low-budget suggestions for a decent heatsink?
02:18 Cprossu egrsteve did you see the new easter egg in the video rack in the noc?
02:18 Cprossu rofl.
02:18 egrsteve no
02:18 Monkeh Cprossu: note: I will not tolerate any tower which uses AMD's brackets.
02:19 Cprossu hahah
02:19 Monkeh They're PLASTIC. They can go away.
02:19 gjposner does like the vasectame (i cant spell) reduce feeling?
02:19 gjposner CHRIS!!!
02:19 gjposner other chris
02:19 gjposner lol
02:19 gjposner girl chris
02:19 Cprossu there's a dual core a64 x2 5200, a core2 duo 1.86, and a dual processor dual core 2.66ghz xeon workstation, wannabe1987
02:20 Cprossu I left you some good stuff
02:20 Monkeh A 1.86? When'd you steal the CPU out of my lab machine?
02:20 wannabe1987 i put them in computer row so bitviper can set up his room....:)
02:20 Cprossu the hyper 212 is a nice sink, a little annoying to install though Monkeh
02:20 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, the fiddly fitseverything bracket is why I was looking at it :)
02:21 Cprossu still works well
02:21 Cprossu got one on my main rig
02:21 Monkeh I hate the plastic brackets
02:21 Cprossu with an NMB ball bearing fan
02:21 FunkEngine fits everything?  No.  Fits nothing properly.
02:21 Cprossu since the fan it comes with is...err
02:21 Cprossu sleeve
02:21 Monkeh Yeah, sleeve's are the norm these days :{
02:21 Monkeh I like the Xigmatek fans. Rifle bearing is a step up from sleeve without being expensive.
02:21 Cprossu I dislike sleeve bearing fans
02:21 Cprossu double ball bearing is nice
02:22 Monkeh As do I as a rule, but they're cheap and good ones are quiet.
02:22 Monkeh Yate Loon fans do really, really well for sleeves.
02:22 Monkeh I keep a stock of them at all times (low availability)
02:22 Cprossu well I am done talking computers for now
02:22 Cprossu or anyting intelligent
02:22 Monkeh Don't blame you
02:22 Cprossu =)
02:22 Monkeh Go get some sleep
02:24 gjposner giggity
02:24 injektion How much do you think they would want for this http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/sys/3012839802.html
02:24 BotSteve Title: IBM 9131-52A SYSTEM P5 IBM SERVER
02:24 gjposner DO IT lol
02:24 Monkeh Cprossu: When you're back and feeling more alive, I need suggestions on software (free or otherwise) for maintaining complete snapshots of the system, with a seperation between OS and user files. Not something I've had to do before.
02:26 SirDerpingtonEsq cant norton ghost do that?
02:26 SirDerpingtonEsq or deepfreeze?
02:27 egrsteve http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeghost/
02:27 FunkEngine use ghost.
02:27 eadthem you can put your os on 1 drive and documents and settings + program files on the other
02:27 BotSteve Title: FOG - A Free Cloning Solution | Free Security & Utilities software downloads at SourceForge.net
02:27 FunkEngine Ghost owns my soul since 2000.
02:27 gjposner what is his watch????
02:27 gjposner im a watch guy
02:28 Twiddlekins_ my last position slowly evolved into a ghost monkey job.. i left
02:28 gjposner http://spikenzielabs.com/SpikenzieLabs/SolderTime.html
02:28 gjposner ??
02:28 BotSteve Title: SolderTime
02:29 FunkEngine So is there anything Bill doesn't hate?
02:29 SirDerpingtonEsq seems like it grant
02:30 eadthem if you just want cloaning use clonezilla
02:31 eadthem its linux based  works like ghost and dose so with every partition type
02:31 gjposner http://www.spikenzielabs.com/Catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;cPath=35&amp;products_id=585
02:31 BotSteve Title: Solder:Time II ™ Watch Kit [SPL-020000] - $55.00 : SpikenzieLabs Store, Electronic Products and Accessories
02:31 gjposner arduino controlled 0.o
02:31 eadthem ntfs and linux types it can do file based compression so that makes it exactly like ghost
02:33 wannabe1987 Lisa has two powdered balls in her mouth....
02:36 tonsofpcs lisa has had balls in her mouth all night...
02:36 ThunderJuggs lulz all night long all night all night
02:38 wannabe1987 lol win
02:38 wannabe1987 yes, tons, i know....i brougth the balls
02:39 lwq1996 i wonder why you have had bad knees at the age of 16 :P
02:40 astro73|roam ..... what.
02:40 wannabe1987 hi asdtro
02:40 lwq1996 lisa. talkin about her bad knees
02:40 astro73|roam hi wannabe1987
02:42 ThunderJuggs lee they were made wrong. my knee caps j  your knee caps are suppose to go like I straight up and down mine go out
02:42 lwq1996 my knees and ankles are bad already. i know how it is :/
02:43 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: straight up and down?
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02:43 BotSteve Welcome back, Mr. Kidwell
02:43 tonsofpcs mine turn a bit as I flex, I think
02:44 lwq1996 OH YEAH KIDWELL IN THE HOUSE
02:44 wannabe1987 hi tmbomber!
02:44 tmbomber Hiya Everybody!!!
02:44 tonsofpcs hi tmbomber
02:44 tonsofpcs topic of discussion from the other day:  Do you happen to know if the caps in storage have shorting wires on them?
02:45 tmbomber the ones in the tunnel do
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02:45 lwq1996 ThunderJuggs: also take the doctors advice and dont crack your fingers or back. it screws them up. bad
02:46 tonsofpcs Monkeh: ^^
02:46 tonsofpcs tmbomber: thanks :)
02:46 tonsofpcs ThunderJuggs: I'm off for the night, happy birthday!
02:46 tmbomber np
02:47 ThunderJuggs thanks!
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02:47 lwq1996 tmbomber: you watching the stream or listening to ggr?
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02:47 astro73|roam i discovered something this week: disney world wears you out
02:48 lwq1996 thats for any vacation astro
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02:48 tmbomber Ya know.... I think Black & Decker produces a line of surgical tools
02:48 tonsofpcs black and decker makes a ton of odd things
02:49 lwq1996 agreed
02:49 lwq1996 throw away electric screw drivers for 13dollars
02:49 SirDerpingtonEsq harbor freight man... they make EVERYTHING
02:49 SirDerpingtonEsq Chicago tools are THE BEST EVER!!!!
02:49 SirDerpingtonEsq </sarcasm>
02:50 gjposner there is nothing more expensive than a cheap tool
02:50 lwq1996 yup
02:50 Turbo998 lol
02:50 Turbo998 I want to watch this video
02:50 Turbo998 lol
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02:51 SirDerpingtonEsq this shit... WHAT THE FUCK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0AhrY9GjA
02:51 BotSteve Title: JB Fanvideo - YouTube
02:51 Monkeh|Lap tmbomber: But the ones in the high energy lab with Stomper don't?
02:51 ThunderJuggs SirDerpingtonEsq: I love that video
02:52 SirDerpingtonEsq haha
02:52 Turbo998 lmao
02:52 tmbomber I think the caps in there were being worked on, so their jumpers were removed and probably never put back on.
02:52 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, so they're sitting there without still
02:52 lwq1996 oh god. get the jesus stick!
02:52 Monkeh|Lap Oh well, they'll get sorted when I get over there if nobody gets to them first.
02:54 Monkeh|Lap tmbomber: Thing is, I distinctly remember them being moved in there without jumpers, which was.. worrying.
02:55 lwq1996 why does capacitors get random energy charges?
02:55 Monkeh|Lap Now that's a tmbomber question. :)
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02:58 wannabe1987 uh oh
02:58 tmbomber caps store energy in an electrostatic field, so static electricity collected from the air will accumulate unless there's some sort of sneek path to keep them drained. (like a shorting wire or bleed resistor)
02:58 wannabe1987 its a boden
02:58 SirDerpingtonEsq CHRISSSSS!!!!!
02:58 SirDerpingtonEsq hi
02:58 Turbo998 Hi Chris :)
02:58 lwq1996 wheres chris?
02:59 tmbomber and no,... HuffPo is anything but credible.
02:59 Monkeh|Lap tmbomber: You'll have to do a proper video on capacitors (big and small) some time (or have you already?)
02:59 lwq1996 good explanation tmbomber
03:00 FunkEngine Oh, hey, the drive for me can be done in a day.  I went by car to indiana state university for NOAC 2002 and we made it in a day...  Just sucks I have to pull over before Ohio and unload the firearm(s) and place the ammo in a separate locked container for the duration I'm in ohio.  Props to Michigan for honoring my PA resident permit.  I presume chris will let carriers stash it in one of the "lockers" upstairs...
03:01 wannabe1987 i assume so....i'd ask but he's busy talking
03:01 gjposner crazy fuckers be crazy
03:01 FunkEngine pfft, no rush.
03:02 FunkEngine Ohio is just stupid.
03:02 lwq1996 people are fucking idiots! keep abortions legal i say
03:03 tmbomber so, ya gonna vote this time Chris???
03:03 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: i lived there....yeah
03:04 tmbomber Twice??? This isn't Chicago
03:04 Turbo998 lol
03:04 wannabe1987 omni
03:04 gjposner what? wow..
03:04 lwq1996 hey chris did you hear what governor corbet is doing to eduaction in pennsylvania?
03:04 gjposner 7 abortions.. wow
03:04 gjposner they cant be cheap..
03:04 Turbo998 He said he is only responisble for one of them
03:05 SirDerpingtonEsq but only 1 was his... hes a responsible person
03:05 FunkEngine lwq1996: why do you think I'm looging to GTFO of PA? :3
03:05 gjposner i know
03:05 SirDerpingtonEsq too bad he wont... but CHRIS BODEN FOR PRESIDENT
03:05 gjposner (thanks other people in the room) lol
03:05 FunkEngine SirDerpingtonEsq: Once we get enough people, we can form our own little nationstate and secede.
03:06 SirDerpingtonEsq YES
03:06 SirDerpingtonEsq YES 1 MILLION TIMES YES
03:06 Turbo998 awesome
03:06 gjposner I am now going to offer parsley tea as the hot beverage lol
03:06 Turbo998 -.-
03:06 Turbo998 lol
03:06 lwq1996 FunkEngine i love pennsylvania. but damn is our governors stupid
03:06 Carvagon_ we can take over rhode island
03:06 SirDerpingtonEsq i have 20k to my name... i would donate it all if this could happen tomorrow...
03:06 gjposner i always used the patented stair way of preventing pregnancy
03:06 gjposner lol
03:06 FunkEngine lwq1996: 100%
03:06 tmbomber yeah, Michigan Senate will let the bill die in committe
03:06 Turbo998 grant you are ridiculous..
03:06 gjposner lol
03:07 Turbo998 shake my damn head
03:07 SirDerpingtonEsq ever seen that thing to remove hair from a drain... thats my preferred option
03:07 lwq1996 if they put real people that know their shit our economy woulnt be like this
03:07 gjposner Drain-O?
03:07 FunkEngine so would the main export of our nation-state be Ideas?
03:07 SirDerpingtonEsq SCIENCE
03:08 wannabe1987 yeah, lisa, i'm gonna get pregnant, and have an abortion FOR FUN! :/
03:08 ThunderJuggs lulz
03:08 Carvagon_ ^^agreed.  lets put people in office whose previous was to debate (i.e. a law background).  lets get some teachers and scientists and accountants and watch crap turn around
03:08 FunkEngine We're technically building a large BrainTrust or a think-tank.
03:08 wannabe1987 yes, Carvagon_, but they are the ones that DON"T want to be in politics
03:08 wannabe1987 get geeks in there!
03:08 Carvagon_ exactly which sucks
03:08 Carvagon_ .  yeah but we can't go to war with nerf guns
03:09 FunkEngine Carvagon_: screw that' we're fielding lasers and emp weapons.
03:09 Carvagon_ lol
03:09 * livefiretj wonders what wannabe is smoking care to share?
03:09 Carvagon_ and one hella of an electrified fence
03:09 FunkEngine I'm pretty sure we could level a 10 mile deep perimiter and make it impassible.
03:10 wannabe1987 livefiretj: i'm not smoking, what are you talking about?
03:10 lwq1996 EXACTLY
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03:10 lwq1996 im a little laggy
03:10 Carvagon_ and there would be 100 cameras recording it all
03:10 SirDerpingtonEsq mother fucking power outage
03:10 FunkEngine for a moment there I thought Chris was going to say he was going to do a series of videos on home abortions... :(
03:10 Turbo998 I heard your rage lol
03:10 lwq1996 CHRIS, sex ed!
03:11 * livefiretj face palm
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03:11 lwq1996 im still a fucking virgin. and im happy about it!
03:11 livefiretj lol
03:11 Turbo998 lol
03:11 SirDerpingtonEsq lol i love how grant, carolyn and I all have the same IP
03:11 Carvagon_ lol chris doing sex ed "welcome to to captains blog.  here we have a thing. and let me get my gerber out"
03:11 gjposner_ i go to a catholic school and my power just blipped when chris started going crazy...
03:11 gjposner_ hmmmm
03:11 lwq1996 i dont need a damn kid at 15 fucking year old
03:12 SirDerpingtonEsq 22 and proud to say... no kids
03:12 Turbo998 lol
03:12 Turbo998 woo!
03:12 Turbo998 way to go :P
03:12 gjposner_ wait what
03:12 gjposner_ i didnt quit
03:12 gjposner_ .name gjposner
03:12 SirDerpingtonEsq the one b4 the power prolly did
03:12 SirDerpingtonEsq its "/name"
03:12 gjposner_ good?
03:12 gjposner_ nope
03:12 gjposner_ fuck it
03:12 Monkeh|Lap No, it's /nick
03:13 SirDerpingtonEsq "/nick" *
03:13 gjposner yay
03:13 Turbo998 lol
03:13 gjposner put your nuts on the table my nigga???
03:13 gjposner im 22 without any kids lol
03:13 Turbo998 woo
03:13 gjposner yep
03:13 SirDerpingtonEsq *high five*
03:13 gjposner lol
03:13 Turbo998 im 18 no kids... woo
03:13 Turbo998 lol
03:13 Turbo998 we are all so accomplished..
03:13 Turbo998 lol
03:14 wannabe1987 i'm 25, no kids, no ring, etc
03:14 FunkEngine I'm 26 and no kids, but then again condoms are cheap. :P
03:14 Turbo998 lmao
03:14 gjposner the cheap ones are cheap lol
03:14 FunkEngine well, latex are cheap.
03:14 SirDerpingtonEsq hehe condoms.... *forever alone*
03:14 Turbo998 lol
03:14 gjposner these new fangled things get pricey lol
03:14 FunkEngine its the non-latex ones that are pricey.
03:14 SirDerpingtonEsq fuck lambskin
03:14 gjposner those things are worthless really
03:14 SirDerpingtonEsq thats shit doesnt work
03:14 livefiretj so is there going to be a hgh jacking
03:15 gjposner of?
03:15 * SirDerpingtonEsq is a gangster
03:15 wannabe1987 hijacking*
03:15 FunkEngine who was the guy who lived out by Altoona?
03:15 wannabe1987 and i doubt it, zozo is stressed and busy, but i can ask
03:15 gjposner of what?
03:15 wannabe1987 lwq1996
03:15 * SirDerpingtonEsq puts his nuts on the table
03:15 astro73|roam god, the internet in this building sucks so badly
03:15 Turbo998 lol
03:15 FunkEngine cause I just realized its on my way.
03:15 * wannabe1987 grabs her leather man, chops them off @ SirDerpingtonEsq
03:16 gjposner is it sharp?
03:16 gjposner if so, dull it out first
03:16 wannabe1987 yes
03:16 gjposner MUCH BETTER SONG CHOICE!
03:16 wannabe1987 i sliced my hand on it...
03:16 Turbo998 I agree
03:16 Turbo998 :)
03:16 FunkEngine hello hello!
03:17 Turbo998 :)
03:17 gjposner goodbye
03:17 gjposner lol
03:17 gjposner hi lo
03:18 FunkEngine I actually have 3 identical knives.  two on me.  One is the every day blade, for boxes and hobos etc, the other is the "holy shit I need to cut someone out of a flaming car wreck" sharp one, and the thrid lives in the backpack, that's reserved for splitting hairs, minor surgical procedures, and shaving.
03:18 wannabe1987 lol
03:18 SirDerpingtonEsq 0.o
03:19 Turbo998 :D
03:19 SirDerpingtonEsq spyderco tenacious ftw
03:19 SirDerpingtonEsq 8cr13mov takes an edge well... wish it held it
03:20 gjposner i would love to have TGG do a knife sharpening video..
03:20 gjposner maybe I just need a good stone lol
03:20 FunkEngine Spyderco Enduras here, I also have a DragonFly that saved my ass once by being attached to a 24" socket extension with red lens tape to cut off an A/C belt because the idler pulley seized up.
03:20 gjposner enduras are great!
03:20 FunkEngine AUS-8 representing.
03:20 gjposner those are pricey for my cheap ass, at least for now
03:21 FunkEngine hell the primary carry one is ~10 years old.
03:21 gjposner awesome!
03:21 FunkEngine one of these days I'm gonna ship it back to spyderco for a factory edge.
03:21 gjposner you can do that????
03:21 gjposner i thought sog only did that
03:22 FunkEngine yep, they even pay to ship it back I think.
03:22 lwq1996 yes wannabe1987?
03:22 gjposner what
03:22 * gjposner goes to spyderco's site
03:22 wannabe1987 FunkEngine wanted to know who you are from PA
03:22 lwq1996 oh.
03:22 FunkEngine lwq1996: yeah you're technically on my way, as far as visiting the labs.
03:22 gjposner florida
03:22 livefiretj omg no need to scream
03:22 livefiretj q
03:23 lwq1996 FunkEngine: got a facebook?
03:23 lwq1996 if ya do. www.facebook.com/lwq1996
03:23 livefiretj who doesnt
03:23 SirDerpingtonEsq i would suggest to pm that shit
03:23 SirDerpingtonEsq too late
03:23 lwq1996 eh. i dont care
03:24 * wannabe1987 is almost done taking apart the transformer....thankfully this one was plastic vs the one at home which is metal
03:24 lwq1996 hey. i try to friend anyone on here. like 40% of my friends are geek related
03:24 FunkEngine lwq1996: friend req sent.
03:25 gjposner http://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/index.php?item=10
03:25 BotSteve Title: :: Spyderco Edge-U-Cation ::
03:25 gjposner no free shipping
03:25 lwq1996 FunkEngine: accepted
03:25 gjposner but they do sharpen them
03:25 lwq1996 and why is there FunkEngine2
03:26 FunkEngine Because I'm relaxing on my bed right now. :)
03:26 wannabe1987 because he is *so awesome* he has 2 nicks
03:26 lwq1996 lol
03:26 wannabe1987 i like my explanation better
03:27 FunkEngine ok, well you're not "on the way" but if you made it up to clearfield that is on the way. :P
03:27 lwq1996 OH YOUR DOWN BY HERSHEY
03:27 FunkEngine yeah
03:27 livefiretj lol on the rewind
03:27 lwq1996 now i know.
03:27 wannabe1987 i have family by hershey!
03:27 lwq1996 one big geeky family? :P
03:27 wannabe1987 o helll no
03:27 wannabe1987 they're like hicks i think
03:28 lwq1996 lol. half of use in pennsylvania are. i dont know how the hell i didnt get the hick gene
03:28 wannabe1987 i'm gonna go follow steve, brb
03:28 lwq1996 95% of people here smoke, chew, hunt, fish, are incest, or stupid as fuck
03:30 tehdark45 lwq1996, sounds more like kentucky
03:30 tehdark45 :P
03:30 lwq1996 most north east states, how bout that
03:31 tehdark45 so NY has hunters?
03:31 tehdark45 :P
03:31 Turbo998 Alright good night everyone :)
03:33 lwq1996 tehdark45: i said most
03:33 lwq1996 believe it or not. yes
03:33 FunkEngine my plan after socking away like 3 grand, give my 60 days notice on my apartment, stuff all my junk into a storage unit, and pull a Cprossu and roll up with my important stuff in the car to set up shop...  Eventually I'll greyhound back and uhaul my junks...
03:35 lwq1996 budget truck. cheaper
03:35 FunkEngine well yeah, I was using the genericised term of uhaul.
03:35 lwq1996 lol
03:35 Cprossu rofl
03:35 FunkEngine but I don't like the idea of dragging my car behind a truck for 700 miles.
03:36 lwq1996 rent/buy a trailer and pack your stuff on it and move
03:36 FunkEngine my car can't tow crap.
03:36 Cprossu some of those flys there up in radio got so fat they couldn't fly anymore
03:36 lwq1996 brand and model?
03:37 FunkEngine 89 Honda Civic Wagovan.
03:37 FunkEngine with a freshly rebuilt engine.
03:37 wannabe1987 yay i saw the ISS!
03:37 lwq1996 ya your kinda screwed them
03:37 lwq1996 then
03:37 lwq1996 hmmm if its rebuild then maybe
03:38 FunkEngine plus it would be like $100 in gas to drive it back here, plus even more gas because I'm dragging it behind me.  I'll just greyhound into my hometown and have my mom shuttle me down here to grab a truck. :3
03:38 Cprossu please don't pull the alarms we don't have any more of those glass rods
03:38 wannabe1987 Cprossu i won't...
03:39 lwq1996 future car thats sitting in a drive way is a ford explorer sport. i can fit all my shit in the bed of it easy
03:39 FunkEngine lwq1996: Sounds like you don't own a decent bed or washer/dryer.
03:39 lwq1996 im 15, why the hell would i?
03:39 FunkEngine ok, you're excused.
03:39 lwq1996 my bed can be broken down with 8bolts
03:40 wannabe1987 actually, that was zozo that did the car full of possessions thing :)
03:40 livefiretj hi melon breast lady
03:40 wannabe1987 and then i started dating him.....i won't start dating you fyi
03:40 lwq1996 my mattress is not comming with me because ive had it since i was 4 and is a piece of shit
03:40 FunkEngine fine by me.  I'm at the point in life where dating is just a money sink.
03:40 lwq1996 lol
03:40 wannabe1987 yeah....he has no $$
03:41 lwq1996 dating is just stupid for me. if i find a good girl that wants to stay with me and is not crazy then im set
03:41 lwq1996 my last gf was a suicidal bitch
03:41 wannabe1987 you're still young yet!
03:41 FunkEngine I've probably saved $2500 in the last two years by just not bothering pursuing relationships.  Not to mention the local women are all crap.
03:42 tmbomber ok, back from scooping ice cream for everybody... (I got a half a spoon)
03:42 FunkEngine lwq1996: They're all nutty.
03:42 lwq1996 you stop going to strip clubs :P
03:42 wannabe1987 i want some, tmbomber!
03:42 * lwq1996 gets wannabe1987 some vanilla ice cream
03:43 wannabe1987 put chocolate on it then!
03:43 FunkEngine haha, no.  But on that topic I once had sex with two girls named Beth and wound up at a strip club within a total of 14 hours...  That was a fun day.
03:43 FunkEngine not at the same time, sadly.
03:43 lwq1996 lol
03:43 FunkEngine that is still on the bucket list.
03:44 tmbomber <------------ attempting to stuff Cookies & Cream through the ethernet.... failing.
03:44 lwq1996 lisa. they can
03:44 wannabe1987 awwww ok
03:44 lwq1996 his name is just intern :P
03:44 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: those things go in #tgg:nsfw
03:44 wannabe1987 thanks :)
03:44 tmbomber Over the air digital still works.
03:44 FunkEngine I'll bring my tools out and give everyone cable.  I worked for Comcast for a while.  My tools fit.
03:44 lwq1996 hmmmm we still got wonka vision
03:45 wannabe1987 sweet
03:45 lwq1996 if you have a digital tv then you dont need a tuner
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03:45 FunkEngine the last thing I watched on TV was curling on the winter olympics.
03:45 wannabe1987 hi Obtuse
03:46 Obtuse hello Kelly
03:46 Obtuse what is going on?
03:46 tmbomber what's the zip code at the lab???
03:46 lwq1996 FunkEngine what is up with pennsylvanians and currling. me and my friends watched it too
03:46 wannabe1987 49504
03:46 wannabe1987 Obtuse, we're on radio
03:47 FunkEngine lwq1996: I think it has to do with the fact that there's not much excitment in PA.
03:47 wannabe1987 currently intern steve is checking his BS (blood sugar)
03:47 Obtuse I should have came and dropped by
03:47 lwq1996 maybe
03:47 Obtuse but i got addicted to Swamp people
03:47 Obtuse i do NOT know why
03:48 lwq1996 though when the 4th of july comes around everyone in pennsylvania throws a kegger or party
03:48 Obtuse Nothing really happens in the show
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03:48 Obtuse oh look, they got another alligator
03:48 wannabe1987 you should have!
03:48 FunkEngine lwq1996: And drives to Maryland for he good fireworks.
03:48 wannabe1987 you should come next week then!
03:48 tmbomber ok... gonna try pasting something messy here...
03:48 Obtuse rehersal next week
03:48 tmbomber WXMI-DT 17.1 FOX RF Channel: 19 22 miles at 159°UHF Yellow WXSP-CD 15.1 MNT RF Channel: 15 3 miles at 311°UHF Yellow WOOD-DT 8.1 NBC RF Channel: 7 23 miles at 156°VHF Green WOLP-CD 41 MNT RF Channel: 41 23 miles at 156°UHF Light Green W48CL 48 3AB RF Channel: 48 3 miles at 311°UHF Red WGVU-DT 35.1 PBS RF Channel: 11 11 miles at 260°VHF Red WTLJ-DT 54.1 TCT RF Channel: 24 11 miles at 260°UHF Red WUHQ-LD 29.1 DA
03:48 lwq1996 i just order mine online. i get permits though first :P
03:48 tmbomber that wasn't too bad...
03:48 lwq1996 so mine are legal
03:49 Obtuse ooo, fun data
03:49 FunkEngine yay stabbity
03:49 tmbomber there's 11 channels available OTA at the lab.
03:49 Obtuse that's cool.
03:50 FunkEngine tmbomber: possibly more with a good Yagi, since michigan is flat and all.
03:50 tmbomber http://www.antennaweb.org is where ya go to find out.
03:50 BotSteve Title: AntennaWeb - Home
03:51 lwq1996 bill watch that they dont go blind by hitting them in the head :P
03:51 Obtuse I haven't used OTA tv ever since I went to college.
03:52 Obtuse since cable always has to be bundled with internet
03:52 FunkEngine speaking of hungry, I should probably eat... been 36 hours now.
03:52 FunkEngine Pica is a thing.
03:54 Obtuse dude in the red shirt is no where near the mic
03:54 FunkEngine ohh the innuendo
03:54 Obtuse plunger thing
03:55 FunkEngine the plunger thing is for sissies.
03:56 tmbomber We use to have a secretary at the office that had a test kit. Whenever I'd injure myslef I'd go running up to her office bleeding...
03:56 FunkEngine 106, she's had enough sweet balls.
03:56 tmbomber "Aaaaaaaane.... Got your kit handy.... I'm bleeding again.... "
03:57 lwq1996 my moms was 500 and the death point was 600
03:57 FunkEngine my uncle has been north of 500 several times.
03:58 FunkEngine but he's been diabetic for nearly 40 years.
03:58 wannabe1987 Obtuse: thats bitviper
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03:58 Obtuse ah cool
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03:59 FunkEngine so its gonna be another rammen night, brb foods.
03:59 FunkEngine Bill's Auxillary Pancreas.
03:59 FunkEngine someone photoshop that.
04:03 wannabe1987 lol
04:04 wannabe1987 intern steve is great
04:04 FunkEngine oh, are the liquor stores in mich state controlled?
04:05 wannabe1987 define controlled?
04:05 FunkEngine the state pays the employees.
04:05 FunkEngine here in PA the state controls everything but beer.
04:05 * lwq1996 hides his stile
04:05 wannabe1987 answer is on radio, if you're listening :)
04:06 FunkEngine YAY, so sunday sales?
04:06 wannabe1987 yeah
04:06 FunkEngine good.  here in PA it sucks.
04:07 FunkEngine brb, rammen
04:07 lwq1996 cant buy or sell anything with acohol here in pa on sunday i dont think
04:07 wannabe1987 ITS LISAS BIRTHDAY!
04:07 wannabe1987 bye
04:09 lwq1996 wannabe1987: where is zozo?
04:09 wannabe1987 downstairs being stressed
04:09 lwq1996 ah
04:09 FunkEngine lwq1996: spurisingly there are a few stores on sunday.  But not in college towns.
04:10 lwq1996 give him hugs for me. i was about to type guns but i fixed my mistake
04:10 wannabe1987 ok
04:10 wannabe1987 he also had night coffee
04:10 FunkEngine I haven't vomited since 1993, suprisingly.
04:10 wannabe1987 wow
04:10 wannabe1987 how old are you?
04:11 lwq1996 o.0 you havent been sick?
04:11 FunkEngine nearly 27.
04:11 wannabe1987 not bad
04:11 FunkEngine I have a digestive tract like Gibronni
04:11 wannabe1987 you're a skinny motherfucker?
04:11 lwq1996 i throw up every week because my stomach cant take stuff in the morning
04:12 FunkEngine wannabe1987: no, but I can eat just about anything.
04:12 wannabe1987 ah
04:12 lwq1996 girboni coulnt keep his stomach down lastweek
04:12 FunkEngine ahaha, ok then mine is better.
04:12 wannabe1987 well, he was drunk
04:13 FunkEngine I've been smashed too.
04:13 wannabe1987 ah
04:13 FunkEngine to be honest, I probably wouldn't know what being about to puke felt like.
04:14 FunkEngine intern steve is the Hot Spare steve.
04:14 lwq1996 i dont puke often. but when i do. i heave so fucking hard and my stomach hurts afterwards
04:15 wannabe1987 ah
04:16 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: he says "i don't swing that way, but thanks nonetheless"
04:16 FunkEngine no, hot spare like a RAID array.
04:16 FunkEngine I don't swing that way either!
04:16 lwq1996 is tonight being hijacked or everyone going home?
04:18 wannabe1987 yes.  to hijack
04:18 lwq1996 where has speedrunner been?
04:18 wannabe1987 ponies
04:19 lwq1996 huh?
04:19 wannabe1987 ponies
04:19 FunkEngine ponystime?!
04:19 tmbomber nodded off there for a bit
04:20 wannabe1987 yes
04:20 lwq1996 you faceplant on your keyboard?
04:20 tmbomber no.... fell backwards, actually :)
04:20 FunkEngine keyboard face is the worst.
04:21 wannabe1987 yes
04:21 lwq1996 only ever one time that i have fell asleep with my laptop
04:21 wannabe1987 tmbomber: that means its bedtime....
04:21 tmbomber pretty close
04:22 livefiretj making pork steaks any suggestions anyone??
04:22 tmbomber first, make sure you pork is actually dead....
04:22 FunkEngine stab it lots and insert crushed peppercorns.
04:22 wannabe1987 ITS A TURBO FAN
04:23 wannabe1987 lol @ kidwell
04:23 Obtuse I just made a post on the forum about my love of chiptune music ... https://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/chiptune-music/
04:23 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Topic: Chiptune Music
04:23 livefiretj good idea
04:23 livefiretj no botsteve!!!
04:24 Obtuse also, i'm doing a show at the DAAC in grand rapids at 7:30 PM on June 8 if anyone is bored.
04:24 livefiretj chiptone music makes me ccry
04:24 Obtuse cry?
04:24 FunkEngine so are the labs occupied pretty much 24x7 these days?  unofficially I mean.
04:24 lwq1996 my throat hurts. i guess i was kinda stupid anyways and deserves it
04:24 wannabe1987 i cannot say
04:24 FunkEngine mum's the word. :3
04:25 lwq1996 if i told mom what i was doing she would kick my ass
04:25 wannabe1987 ...
04:25 FunkEngine tell bill not to kill any animals on the way home!
04:25 FunkEngine lwq1996: hey now, on your next birthday you could be emancipated. :)
04:25 wannabe1987 he says no guarantee
04:26 lwq1996 no really i cant. i have to have my own place. a paying job. and i think a car
04:26 FunkEngine and tell intern steve I meant hot spare like in a RAID array.
04:26 wannabe1987 i did
04:26 FunkEngine don't want him to get the wrong idea. :P
04:26 wannabe1987 hijack in about 10 minutes
04:26 wannabe1987 yeah, they explained it to me....
04:27 livefiretj dam i started to cook 10min to soon
04:27 wannabe1987 lol yes, but i found out about 20 min ago if that we were hijacking cuz zozo is stressed to the max re:todays events and needs to "blow off steam"
04:28 tmbomber todays.... events????
04:28 FunkEngine the more I learn about the labs and the people participating, the more tempted I am to just walk away from my current life...  Never before have I thought: "These are my people.  I must join my people."
04:28 wannabe1987 that was zozo's idea too...
04:28 lwq1996 agreed FunkEngine
04:29 wannabe1987 he was CTO of a WISP/ISP and was like....fuck this and came here
04:29 FunkEngine yeah but I don't want to just show up on someone's doorstep, I want at least SOME plan as far as not becoming a hobo.
04:30 wannabe1987 lol yeah
04:30 FunkEngine lwq1996:  If you do wind up hitching a ride with me to the labs sometime in the fall, I'll actually need a signed parental release.  It just occurred to me I'd be transporting a minor across state lines, unless we look like we could be related or something. haha
04:30 wannabe1987 LOL
04:31 lwq1996 pft. i should just get up and run away
04:31 wannabe1987 if you do, come here...
04:32 FunkEngine I mean I know that the labs NEED me, and I NEED to be there.  And I can do everything I've seen egrsteve do, and possibly more...  I'd like to entertain the idea that there might be a slot for me in a GeekHouseX and some sort of, lets call it Allowance from the labs so I can buy food/booze/toys.
04:32 lwq1996 thats what i was planning to do if i did
04:33 FunkEngine lwq1996: Ok, fine, but I'm making you walk into Ohio from PA and then Mich from Ohio...  I'll pull over and you can jog it.
04:33 lwq1996 i kinda want to stay here till i get out of highschool because im enrolled in the kinda local career and technology center and there its free and i get education in computer technology
04:33 FunkEngine Either that or Chris should start poking the local sponsors and ask if they'd hire migrant geeks with relevant skills.
04:33 wannabe1987 i'm sure that eventually they can put you on payroll
04:34 wannabe1987 we're back on the radio, btw
04:34 FunkEngine wannabe1987: That's why I'm socking away a few grand.
04:35 lwq1996 there may be no place for me at the group once i get there. and i hear nothing on ggr
04:35 FunkEngine because 1 I don't want to be stuck out there living out of my car trying to make enough money to drive home. :P
04:35 wannabe1987 theres no songs?
04:35 FunkEngine lwq1996: Well there's a place for you, just possibly not a paid position.
04:35 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: you won't be living out of your car, trust me....i'll make sure that own't heapp
04:35 lwq1996 yes. but i thought 'you guys' were on ggr
04:35 wannabe1987 happen*
04:36 wannabe1987 not yet
04:36 wannabe1987 lwq1996: we'll make a place for you.
04:36 lwq1996 if i get a coughe and a power outlet i will be good
04:36 wannabe1987 couch*
04:36 wannabe1987 and yes
04:36 lwq1996 first thing when i get there is get a job and help pay you guys
04:37 wannabe1987 i know hun
04:37 FunkEngine I plan to have potential jobs lined up before arriving.
04:37 lwq1996 idc if its mowing lawns. i do it now, i love it. i will do it for next to nothing
04:38 FunkEngine lwq1996: when do you turn 16?
04:38 wannabe1987 december
04:38 lwq1996 december
04:38 lwq1996 damn kelly fast draw :P
04:38 wannabe1987 i type fast
04:38 wannabe1987 :)
04:38 wannabe1987 50+ WPM
04:38 FunkEngine heh, you wouldn't even have your cinderella license till this time next year.
04:38 lwq1996 kellys so sweet she baked cookies and sent me some :D
04:39 wannabe1987 cinderella?
04:39 lwq1996 -shrugs-
04:39 FunkEngine wannabe1987: till you turn 18 in PA you can't drive after certain hours unless it is specifically for your job, and then there's paperwork.
04:39 wannabe1987 ah
04:40 wannabe1987 same in MI
04:40 FunkEngine I think its 11pm to 6am or something.
04:40 lwq1996 pft. like they would know
04:40 FunkEngine Its been 10 years since I did the whole drivers test thing. :)
04:40 lwq1996 im an excelent driver now :P
04:41 FunkEngine I just worry that long term if lots of us kind of show up on his doorstep, that Chris is going to have a problem.  I've never heard him talk about how he feels on migrants.
04:42 FunkEngine although I wouldn't be suprised if he wants MORE geeks to come.
04:43 wannabe1987 if you know our "stuff" you'll be fine
04:44 wannabe1987 he wants volunteers
04:45 FunkEngine Like I  said, I'm working my way back through all the videos both main channel and captain's blog, and I haven't seen anything I couldn't assist with.
04:45 lwq1996 HELLO STEVE
04:45 FunkEngine I'll even fix the flip-clock!
04:45 lwq1996 flip clock just needs a new motor
04:46 wannabe1987 lol
04:46 lwq1996 id like to aid in with the arduino stuff
04:46 wannabe1987 which steve?
04:46 FunkEngine yes, and I have 3 30rpm synch motors to try. :)
04:47 lwq1996 i actually want to hear him rant. please rant?
04:47 NothingNerd Ranting is fun
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04:47 FunkEngine mark V and VI
04:47 wannabe1987 hi aaron
04:47 lwq1996 hi aaron
04:47 Aaron_B hey
04:50 FunkEngine http://www.spongetech.net/spongesmoker.jpg  I built an exhaust fan for covert smoking out of one of those years and years ago.
04:50 * wannabe1987 has to get up at 8am :/
04:50 wannabe1987 at least i can sleep after orientation on my client....
04:50 lwq1996 leave at 2 and you should be fine
04:50 Aaron_B there's no such thing as sleep
04:51 livefiretj new jb wanna??
04:51 wannabe1987 no
04:51 wannabe1987 new client
04:52 FunkEngine 7 minutes to woot.
04:53 wannabe1987 ?
04:54 FunkEngine woot.com
04:54 FunkEngine you know.
04:54 FunkEngine normal is median.
04:55 wannabe1987 right
04:56 lwq1996 i can hear when zozo yells. he is a little slurred
04:56 wannabe1987 lol are we low?
04:56 FunkEngine he's allowed to be a bit sloshed after his day.
04:57 wannabe1987 yeah
04:57 lwq1996 yeah. i dont think hes drunk enough
04:57 wannabe1987 no, he's fine....
04:57 Aaron_B donate money for the night coffee fund
04:57 wannabe1987 he needs to drive home at some point
04:58 tmbomber Two pounds of Starbucks coffee in the cafe kitchen... coffee press and electric kettle in the basement break room.
04:59 tmbomber Kamodo Dragon blend, as I recall
04:59 tmbomber Hiya Zozo
05:00 tmbomber not a problem :)
05:00 Aaron_B our night coffee is measured in proofs
05:00 tmbomber ah!
05:00 NothingNerd I get the feeling someone if going to loose an eye soon...
05:00 wannabe1987 lol
05:01 FunkEngine I built a flamethrower out of PVC and other plumbing fittings once.
05:01 FunkEngine 30' of burning ethanol.
05:02 tmbomber Hiya Steve :)
05:02 FunkEngine shove it full of marshmallows!
05:02 wannabe1987 funK: he said "o god"
05:02 NothingNerd Marshmellows hurt more than darts
05:04 FunkEngine I have a linksys wifi webcam, I'll bring it along and we can turn it into a helmet cam.
05:04 wannabe1987 sweet
05:05 NothingNerd Scooty Puff Jr
05:05 FunkEngine I may ship it out even.
05:05 tmbomber there's one sitting on top of the rack near the pool table
05:05 tmbomber (last I saw)
05:05 tmbomber hmmmm
05:05 tmbomber might not be wireless.
05:05 NothingNerd Whats your bank account number?
05:06 FunkEngine look, everything is 5v logic inside anyway, we all know this.
05:06 tmbomber we have the technology :)
05:06 NothingNerd No one has an old cellphone with a camera and WiFi?
05:06 Aaron_B it would have to support streaming
05:07 FunkEngine a 9v doesn't have enough current for wifi.
05:07 FunkEngine you'd be looking at lithium.
05:07 NothingNerd Paranoid?
05:09 NothingNerd How much air does it need per shot?
05:09 FunkEngine he just needs a 5 gallon portable air tank on his back and he'd be unstoppable or something.
05:10 NothingNerd I have a old large paintball air tank
05:10 FunkEngine NothingNerd: got a regulator to connecto to it?
05:10 FunkEngine cause a paintball tank is like 1600 psi.
05:10 NothingNerd it has a regulator on it
05:10 NothingNerd I think its an 800PSI
05:10 NothingNerd but you get change it to 450 too
05:11 tmbomber I hit him in the head with a bottle rocket. (ask him, he'll show you the bump from the plastic nose cone that's imbeded in his head)
05:11 Aaron_B hehehe... i remember that pic
05:11 FunkEngine everyone has a million 555s.
05:11 NothingNerd http://code.google.com/p/spydroid-ipcamera/
05:11 BotSteve Title: spydroid-ipcamera - Turns your android powered device into a nice ip camera - Google Project Hosting
05:12 NothingNerd Thats not the correct use of fireworks...
05:12 lwq1996 damn getting hit with either sucks but hell of fun
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05:13 tmbomber https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2464292577491&amp;set=a.2082952964239.153361.1557544310&amp;type=3&amp;theater
05:13 BotSteve Title: Paul Kidwell's Photos | Facebook
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05:14 FunkEngine attack a george foreman or crock-pot if you want 32ga nichrome.
05:14 lwq1996 zozo. does the atomiser glow red when button is pressed?
05:14 tmbomber note the scorch marks on my shirt...
05:14 tmbomber the welt on his arm.... and the blood
05:15 wannabe1987 lol
05:15 Aaron_B hehehe... epic, paul
05:15 tmbomber ty :)
05:16 lwq1996 nah. just stick the fuse down tip and light the fuse if it glowed red
05:16 Aaron_B next geek group project... take a bunch of atomizer-style coils, an arduino, and a football field of bottle rockets or something, and put on a show
05:17 FunkEngine Someday you'll get a flo-jet water cutter.
05:17 Aaron_B and, the sky-scan that's down in robotics shooting from the roof as close to the big grand opening as possible
05:17 Aaron_B *sky-scan laser projector
05:18 FunkEngine alcoa
05:19 lwq1996 DAMN THATS A DAMN BIG CASE
05:19 wannabe1987 lol
05:19 FunkEngine go big or go home.
05:20 NothingNerd right...
05:21 FunkEngine then you dip it in RIT dye and boil it.
05:21 FunkEngine yeah, boiling.
05:21 egrsteve FunkEngine: http://www.observationsblog.com/4/post/2011/10/anodizing-and-dying-aluminum-without-battery-acid.html
05:21 BotSteve Title: Anodizing and dying aluminum without battery acid - Observations
05:21 egrsteve saw that a while ago still need to try it
05:22 FunkEngine what's his beef with battery acid?  You can actually buy it at Home Depot or Lowes in a 5 gallon bag-box like foodservice milk comes.
05:22 NothingNerd http://hackedgadgets.com/2007/04/28/computer-mouse-using-a-dead-mouse/
05:22 BotSteve Title: Computer Mouse using a Dead Mouse - Hacked Gadgets – DIY Tech Blog
05:22 FunkEngine oh yeah, Gibronni the cold blood killer.
05:23 FunkEngine I wouldn't trust cory to know which end of the soldering iron to hold, honestly.
05:23 egrsteve you can buy it but the sodium bisulfate
05:23 egrsteve is a bit milder
05:24 FunkEngine Since when has TGG been about mild things? :3
05:24 egrsteve and the results do look good
05:25 wannabe1987 never?
05:25 FunkEngine I'm gonna be dangerous when I have access to the resources at the lab...  so many possibilities!
05:25 wannabe1987 :)
05:26 FunkEngine as soon as I get actual scheduleable vaca time, I'm totally rolling out for a week.
05:27 FunkEngine HOLY SHIT.
05:27 Cheezmo "...battery acid..." ~ "OSHA lists it as corrosive."
05:27 FunkEngine egrsteve!  Charge it up, then fire it!
05:27 Cheezmo no, really? lol
05:27 FunkEngine its a freaking tazer round!
05:27 NothingNerd yea put a charge photo cap in there
05:27 NothingNerd those hurt
05:27 FunkEngine ^
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05:28 FunkEngine the lab doesn't have a chrony?
05:28 Aaron_B what's a chrony?
05:28 NothingNerd Yea the paintball breaks and releases the energy
05:28 NothingNerd the cap don't
05:28 FunkEngine you fire a projectile through it and it gives you the velocity.
05:28 egrsteve no leads on the cap
05:28 Aaron_B cronie?
05:28 lwq1996 FUCKING HURTS
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05:28 Aaron_B oh... a chronometer
05:29 FunkEngine a chronometer is a timekeeper.
05:29 NothingNerd you meant chronograph
05:29 FunkEngine I'll bring mine.
05:32 livefiretj ohh
05:32 FunkEngine as soon as I have vacation time I'm coming out for a week, so roughly September-ish.
05:33 injektion I have vacation but they will not let me take it
05:33 * livefiretj sux at flossing
05:34 wannabe1987 injektion: why not?
05:34 wannabe1987 livefiretj: not my fault
05:34 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: sweet
05:34 injektion Because it is the busy season wannabe1987
05:34 livefiretj wannabe yes it is
05:34 wannabe1987 i'm not your dentist.
05:34 FunkEngine Ask egrsteve about my water experiment, there's your topic.
05:35 NothingNerd I'll donate money if you eat it
05:35 livefiretj is that a challange??
05:35 livefiretj how much??
05:35 livefiretj did it break??
05:35 wannabe1987 what?
05:36 livefiretj i think it would lite
05:36 FunkEngine its not electrolosys
05:36 FunkEngine its DISASSOCIATION
05:36 FunkEngine you're ripping the bonds.
05:36 NothingNerd hmmm
05:36 livefiretj are you goingto dig it out of your shit??
05:36 FunkEngine and what you have left is perfectly stochiometric ratio of H2 to O
05:37 livefiretj lol
05:37 FunkEngine and even if it doesn't go that route, there's going to be a huge splash.
05:37 FunkEngine I was popping my baby cap bank into a film canister full of water in 2000 or so and it was exciting.
05:37 NothingNerd I only got 20 bucks in my paypal account
05:38 ggr thats ok
05:39 livefiretj i saw ur crack
05:39 wannabe1987 ZOMG I HAS A CRACK?!
05:39 Aaron_B it would have to be a pretty decent sized bubble of hydrogen to ignite, and it would have to be generated really quickly
05:39 livefiretj what r u playing wannabe??
05:39 wannabe1987 galaxy life
05:41 livefiretj big mistake
05:41 wannabe1987 ?
05:42 FunkEngine http://www.powerlabs.org/waterarc.htm   haha, look at his pitiful cap bank.
05:42 BotSteve Title: Water atomisation by high magnitude electrical impulses: A study.
05:42 livefiretj when did we upgrade the monotr??
05:42 livefiretj on arrons computer
05:43 livefiretj wannabe i cannever go grocery shopping with you lol
05:43 wannabe1987 yeah....bits paying....
05:43 tmbomber filette of soul.... tasty :)
05:43 NothingNerd but not the gummy...
05:43 wannabe1987 thats because YOU argue with me on what I"M spending MY money on....
05:43 wannabe1987 the gummy is under zozo's chair
05:43 livefiretj it cypress in az??
05:43 wannabe1987 Cprossu yes
05:44 livefiretj and there goes the radio
05:44 livefiretj its back!!
05:44 tmbomber I can hear yall.... never heard ya go
05:44 FunkEngine oh, hey when I come out I can bring this for the museum... http://www.spongetech.net/SA/spongecray1.jpg
05:44 livefiretj no sleep 4 u
05:45 NothingNerd sleep is for the .... tired people
05:45 wannabe1987 i am tired
05:45 wannabe1987 i worked today
05:45 NothingNerd as did I
05:46 NothingNerd You have to get on the 3 hours of sleep system
05:46 injektion I worked today as well but I am not tired :/
05:46 livefiretj saw the crack again
05:46 FunkEngine I'm totally going to have to bring Ambien with me or I won't sleep the entire week I'll be visiting... ahaha
05:46 wannabe1987 LOL
05:47 wannabe1987 livefiretj: give it up?  i don't give a rats ass....
05:47 FunkEngine livefiretj: Opinions are like cracks, everyone has one and they all stink.
05:47 wannabe1987 noone else seems to care....
05:47 FunkEngine the only crack I fear is the bat crack.
05:47 wannabe1987 LOL
05:47 NothingNerd Really mine is pine fresh
05:47 FunkEngine he could smuggle a dog in there.
05:47 wannabe1987 hahahahah
05:48 NothingNerd I fear giant cracks in the earth
05:49 livefiretj moon someone listening
05:49 livefiretj takes talent
05:49 FunkEngine haha, I think we'd pay you to keep the pants on.
05:49 wannabe1987 really
05:49 wannabe1987 he has a nice ass....
05:49 tmbomber tmi
05:49 wannabe1987 zozo!  this is a way for you to make money!
05:50 FunkEngine 'tis but a fleshwound
05:50 FunkEngine paul's asleep.
05:50 Toastdude Hi
05:50 FunkEngine hai2u
05:50 wannabe1987 TOASTDUDE
05:51 tmbomber I'm not asleep yet!!!
05:51 Toastdude Hi Haha
05:51 Toastdude KELLY
05:51 wannabe1987 hi
05:51 Toastdude Hello
05:51 lwq1996 it could be ww3 and nuclear holocaust could be happening and there could be rubble. but doom chicken would still be standing
05:51 Toastdude Dude! Mr. Kidwell!
05:51 tmbomber Hiya!!!
05:52 Toastdude LEE
05:52 lwq1996 TOAST
05:52 FunkEngine its called an LP my friend.
05:53 FunkEngine they haven't made 78s since WW2.
05:53 tmbomber he threw a 78??? (ummm.... those things are worth money to collectors)
05:53 FunkEngine its a 12" 33 1/3 rpm LP.
05:53 FunkEngine see, Paul's with me on this one.
05:54 egrsteve yit has the small spindle hole so proabably 33
05:54 FunkEngine a 78 would also be made of shellac and would have shattered.
05:55 FunkEngine none of you people have a laser pointer?
05:55 FunkEngine And you call yourselves geeks.
05:55 FunkEngine :3
05:55 wannabe1987 steve used one
05:55 wannabe1987 :)
05:55 FunkEngine ahaha, ok, he's forgiven.
05:55 lwq1996 hell i think they have starwars on laser disk
05:55 lwq1996 i think. dont quote me on that
05:56 FunkEngine but what color is your laser?
05:56 FunkEngine also, I have VIDEO on vinyl.
05:56 einball FunkEngine: 1W far IR counts?
05:56 FunkEngine I own an RCA selectavision player.
05:56 einball okay, now Iam off to bosch... field trip :D
05:57 FunkEngine mmm, surimi.
05:57 wannabe1987 bye einball
05:58 lwq1996 well, pall went to sleep
05:58 wannabe1987 lol
05:58 NothingNerd everytime I hear a place with the name express in it
05:58 NothingNerd http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2012/06/07/demotivational-posters-all-u-can-eat-burritos/
05:59 BotSteve Title: ALL-U-CAN-EAT BURRITOS - Very Demotivational - The Demotivational Posters Blog
05:59 livefiretj aztec for holland
05:59 livefiretj belt line bar is fake mexican food
06:00 wannabe1987 Toastdude: https://fbcdn_sphotos_d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/578070_429724070381943_1291427356_n.jpg
06:00 FunkEngine I'm imagining us building our own enclave and using our own currency, screw money.
06:01 wannabe1987 yep
06:01 wannabe1987 i LOVE cooking
06:01 livefiretj stop shinying that in my eye lol
06:01 NothingNerd I think that laser made the colors better...
06:01 NothingNerd or it burned my eye out a little
06:02 egrsteve hmm, color might be a bit better
06:02 lwq1996 FunkEngine you ever been to luigies in climer?
06:02 FunkEngine it probably forced a white balance/auto-iris reset.
06:02 wannabe1987 lol
06:02 FunkEngine lwq1996: Nope.  I'm a poor geek I can't afford to eat out. :3
06:02 lwq1996 lol
06:02 NothingNerd Well there are some things you shouldn't do with a pig...
06:02 wannabe1987 weeeeeee
06:02 lwq1996 if you ever have 50dollars though go and eat there. best fucking food i have ever eaten
06:02 wannabe1987 FunkEngine: same
06:03 Toastdude Awesome, Kelly. :D
06:03 wannabe1987 now i'm REALLY dizzy....
06:03 wannabe1987 and egrsteve is pointing a lser at my boobs?
06:03 FunkEngine and really, for the cost of eating out, I can make three awesome meals.
06:03 wannabe1987 yep
06:03 lwq1996 yup
06:04 FunkEngine want to know my secret recipe for sketti-os?
06:04 * wannabe1987 feels ill and needs to go home
06:04 NothingNerd As I said there is some things you shouldn't do with a pig...
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06:04 BotSteve Welcome back, Mr. Kidwell
06:04 wannabe1987 such as what?
06:04 lwq1996 paul nod off again?
06:05 FunkEngine Take brick of rammen noodles, discard flavor packet.  boil 2 cups of water, add noodles, two minutes later add one small can of tomato soup, simmer for 4-5 more minutes.
06:05 tmbomber blown out of the water there for a bit
06:05 FunkEngine its freaking skettios.
06:05 NothingNerd Biting them while alive
06:05 wannabe1987 ...
06:05 FunkEngine steve shouldn't ever talk about sticking something up a backside.
06:05 FunkEngine ever.
06:05 NothingNerd lol
06:06 livefiretj he will shoot you tonigh lol
06:06 tmbomber Night Zozo!!!
06:06 tmbomber and everybody else!!!
06:06 wannabe1987 night paul!
06:06 wannabe1987 night all
06:06 NothingNerd nighto
06:06 Toastdude Night Paul!
06:07 lwq1996 nigth who ever is going to bed, because im confused
06:07 wannabe1987 radio is going to bed
06:07 lwq1996 everyday of the week
06:08 NothingNerd Whats going on, who what where when?
06:08 FunkEngine well, someday there will be enough bored geeks to go 24x7.
06:08 FunkEngine oh god music
06:08 lwq1996 lol
06:09 * lwq1996 smacks Toastdude with a large trout
06:09 FunkEngine well my AGC had drifted a bit, so it came in LOUD
06:09 NothingNerd lol
06:09 NothingNerd well your more awake now
06:09 lwq1996 damn this is putting me asleep
06:09 FunkEngine which is bad because I have to wake up in 6 hours.
06:10 FunkEngine but I don't really care.
06:10 NothingNerd I need to stop finding things from distracting me
06:10 FunkEngine configure your firewall to block all.
06:11 lwq1996 i used to run 2hours of sleep for 6hours of schoo
06:11 FunkEngine that works for me.
06:11 NothingNerd and learn to write english correctly apparently...
06:11 FunkEngine my body has no circadian rythm.
06:11 FunkEngine I normalize somewhere around 38 hours awake for 12 hours of sleep.
06:11 NothingNerd Nah the firewall won't work cause I'll find something to do instead of reconfiguring it...
06:11 NothingNerd When I was in high school I used to only sleep 3 hours a night
06:12 NothingNerd I wish I could still do that
06:12 lwq1996 NothingNerd: shut the hell up. i know im bad at spelling
06:12 FunkEngine NothingNerd: I find benzodiazepines work well in your situation...
06:12 NothingNerd I meant I need to learn correct grammar not you
06:12 lwq1996 oh
06:12 lwq1996 im so tired and cross eyed.
06:12 lwq1996 im going to bed.
06:13 lwq1996 night everyone
06:13 NothingNerd nighto
06:13 FunkEngine cya
06:13 Toastdude Night Le
06:13 Toastdude e
06:14 FunkEngine I approve of this music.
06:15 NothingNerd techno?
06:15 FunkEngine this is not techno.
06:15 FunkEngine you need to spend some time with Ishkur's Guide to Electronic  Music.
06:15 NothingNerd uhhh
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06:15 FunkEngine google it.
06:16 FunkEngine expand your mind.
06:16 NothingNerd music is like food to me, everything tastes like chicken or some derivative of it
06:16 FunkEngine Plebian. :3
06:16 joe34 ok i need help with my flyback tesla coil
06:16 FunkEngine Elaborate>
06:16 joe34 i cant git no output
06:17 FunkEngine reverse the leads.
06:17 joe34 ok i will try that it is a 20kv flyback
06:17 joe34 i have 5 3kv cap
06:17 FunkEngine what are you driving it with, a 555?
06:18 joe34 no zvs
06:18 FunkEngine ok, I'll defer to someone else then.  I have no hands on with that.
06:18 FunkEngine but still it can't hurt to reverse the leads on the drive coil.
06:19 FunkEngine sometimes they only ring properly in one direction.
06:19 joe34 yea when i charge the caps the spark gap fires but then no out put
06:19 FunkEngine fires continuously, or just a one-shot?
06:20 joe34 it fires once  about every second
06:20 FunkEngine I'd set the gap a bit closer.
06:21 FunkEngine the other problem could be the flyback is hosed internally.
06:22 FunkEngine or did you source a new part?
06:22 joe34 naa i pluged the tv in too make sure it worked
06:23 joe34 i think it may be rectfied
06:23 FunkEngine yeah we'll see if anyone else has an answer.  My experience with flybacks invloved driving them and using the output to charge the tank circuit of my tesla.
06:23 FunkEngine well that's not hard to test.
06:24 joe34 do you have a schematic of you tesla coil
06:24 FunkEngine slap like 400v DC through the primary and see if it only shows up in one direction.
06:25 FunkEngine I built that coil in 2001, I'm not even sure it survived when the hot water heater decided to flood the basement it was being stored in, sadly. :(
06:25 FunkEngine The moral here is everything in a basement needs to be 12" off the floor, and you can never have too many LeakFrogs.
06:27 NothingNerd uh
06:27 NothingNerd or get a flood stop...
06:27 joe34 i git very little out put  about a cm
06:32 FunkEngine Is this an open core flyback, or one of the new fangled board mount epoxy potted ones?
06:32 FunkEngine heh, showing my age there.  TVs don't use flybacks anymore. ahahaj
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06:45 FunkEngine lol, thought you were going to sleep?
06:46 wannabe1987 i am.  but i'm also always logged into irc unless i'm traveling
06:46 FunkEngine highfive
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06:53 wannabe1987 ok, i had food, breakfast is by my bed, alarm is set for 8, have to be out the door by 8:30, i'm good to go to bed
06:54 wannabe1987 boyfriend is in bed, safe, eating too....so thats good.
06:54 wannabe-zz night all
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07:21 Experimentonomen g'mornin geeks, weirdos and peepz
07:30 Thermoelectric Evening Experimentonomen
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07:59 dr_jkl mmm
07:59 dr_jkl BatSteve-Away: you around or really away?
08:01 dr_jkl anyone awake
08:01 dr_jkl ?
08:09 Thermoelectric Maybe
08:15 Sgt_Lemming watching an interesting movie atm
08:15 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus_(film)
08:15 BotSteve Title: Coriolanus (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
08:15 Sgt_Lemming it's a modern adaptation of a shakespeare play, but not wanky :-P
08:20 Thermoelectric Sounds interesting..
08:24 Experimentonomen wonky
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08:32 dr_jkl hey, Thermoelectric
08:32 dr_jkl do me a favor
08:33 Thermoelectric Yeah?
08:36 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/F5W2E
08:37 BotSteve Title: It's All Fun And Games... - Imgur
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08:51 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/iudRX
08:51 BotSteve Title: Boom - Imgur
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09:12 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/ld8uA
09:12 BotSteve Title: Subliminal messaging - Imgur
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10:04 Thermoelectric Me and my damn electronics hoarding. Gah. Not enough room in my room!
10:12 killakee Thermoelectric: i know the feeling :/
10:14 Thermoelectric Must save the electronics!
10:14 killakee hey i got a samsung 152b t lcd it says its suposed to be run on 14 volts but i run it on a 12 volt suply and it works fine .. but do you think im hurting it ?
10:15 killakee Thermoelectric: yes always :D
10:15 Thermoelectric I doubt that would hurt it, assuming it doesn't feed the electronics that directly.
10:16 killakee cool
10:16 killakee then i saved another lcd .. oh joy XD
10:18 Thermoelectric Well done!
10:18 * Thermoelectric ponders what to do with old CD-RW/dvd-rom drives
10:20 killakee :)
10:20 killakee hmmm.... old cd roms...
10:20 killakee i have a couple if you want them XD
10:20 killakee hehe
10:20 Thermoelectric I don't need any more, hah.
10:21 Thermoelectric I think I might just strip them down... Easier to store atleast.
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10:27 killakee yeah..
10:28 killakee not that many things you could do with those i think'
10:29 tonsofpcs yes, NY has hunters...
10:30 tonsofpcs .tell tehdark45 yes, NY has hunters...
10:30 BotSteve tonsofpcs: Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
10:31 killakee (note to self) learning my kids how to use a screwdriver: NOT the smartest of moves XD
10:32 Thermoelectric Why? Now you can use them as dismantlers, give them a heap of old stuff and let them strip it all down for you! :P
10:32 killakee XD
10:32 killakee good idea..
10:33 killakee they realy loved doing it . so why not XD
10:33 Thermoelectric You may have some geeks on your hands! :D
10:35 killakee yeah :)
10:39 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell tehdark45 yes, NY has hunters...
10:39 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when tehdark45 is around.
10:40 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I don't know how Chris feels on migrants... I know that he was excited at the possibility of regional geek groups (affiliates perhaps?).  TGG: the new Y for nerds? :)
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11:49 Carvagon morning guys
11:49 Thermoelectric Morning Carvagon
11:50 BitViper Carvagon : what about the [few] women ?
11:51 Carvagon well i was going to say morning gentlemen/gentlewomen but it just doesnt sound right lol
11:53 BitViper meh, well, maybe they wont kill you without warning
11:54 Carvagon lol
11:56 Carvagon wont be the first .  wont be the last
12:01 * CaptainNiobe kills Carvagon without warning
12:01 Carvagon see?  told ya
12:02 CaptainNiobe :P
12:04 Carvagon lol
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12:30 Carvagon wb
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12:37 bitviper|gr am i here ?
12:48 Sgt_Lemming I has a new toy :-D
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12:49 bitviper|unstabl argh
12:49 * Experimentonomen eats a dick
12:49 bitviper|unstabl stupid wireless, seems to have issues keeping contact with an ap some 4 blocks away in a heavily treed, heavy residential area for some reason
12:49 Sgt_Lemming http://www.freetronics.com/products/leostick <--- new toy
12:49 BotSteve Title: Parts & Kits for Arduino Online, Buy Microcontroller Boards, Electronic Components for Arduino - LeoStick (Arduino Compatible) - Freetronics
12:50 * bitviper|unstabl glues himself down so cant disconnect again
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14:13 bonno hello
14:25 Carvagon lookin at the new posters on the website and the James Watt poster has a misspelling.  lol if Gibroni did those somebody has to give him a hard time about it
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14:46 Cprossu noooo
14:47 Cprossu *noticed was disconnected from freenode*
14:47 Sgt_Lemming lol
14:47 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu http://www.freetronics.com/products/leostick
14:47 BotSteve Title: Parts & Kits for Arduino Online, Buy Microcontroller Boards, Electronic Components for Arduino - LeoStick (Arduino Compatible) - Freetronics
14:49 Cprossu wow nice Sgt_Lemming
14:49 Cprossu not too bad in price too
14:49 Sgt_Lemming yeah
14:49 Cprossu I'd feel like I'd break it though
14:49 Sgt_Lemming I have one, it's quite cool
14:50 * Cprossu contemplates how difficult it would be to make a pin compatibe arduino with 74 series logic
14:50 Cprossu *compatible
14:50 Sgt_Lemming 74?
14:50 Sgt_Lemming as in 74c595?
14:50 Cprossu yes
14:50 Sgt_Lemming why...?
14:50 Cprossu or 74ls11
14:50 Cprossu why not?!
14:51 Sgt_Lemming the pain, oh the pain
14:51 Sgt_Lemming arduino is meant to be simple, using 7 series logic is not
14:51 Cprossu 74 series logic is dumb simple, the wiring of it is not though
14:51 Cprossu xD
14:51 Sgt_Lemming making it do advanced things is not simple
14:52 Cprossu I had a beer pasturization state machine out of 9 chips (including a 555)
14:52 Cprossu weee
14:52 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Freenode decided you'd had enough uptime.
14:53 Cprossu granted that coulda been done with 4 lines of code
14:53 Cprossu yeah it's the 2nd time since the trip started
14:53 Cprossu I am glad to be back home though :)
14:53 Cprossu now I need to fix stuff
14:54 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: But you just got back from fixing stuff!
15:00 * Electricguy beeps
15:01 * Monkeh|Lap desolders Electricguy's annoying speaker
15:01 Electricguy speaker? more like flimsy car horn with crimped connectors
15:02 Monkeh|Lap Okay
15:02 * Monkeh|Lap smashes Electricguy's toy horn with a bat
15:02 Monkeh|Lap Better? ;)
15:02 Electricguy yepp
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15:03 Electricguy lol! aussie humor :P http://i.imgur.com/1zAoa.png
15:07 Electricguy i want to build one more drone synth/noise generator
15:10 Experimentonomen hm
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15:12 Electricguy heyz wannabe :)
15:12 wannabe1987 hi
15:16 * wannabe1987 is tired.....nap soon?
15:16 * Damianz puts wannabe1987 to bed
15:16 wannabe1987 i'm still in the kitchen
15:19 wannabe1987 but thanks for the thought
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15:23 TwoTimesP Greetings
15:23 Electricguy ahoy
15:28 wannabe1987 hi TwoTimesP*
15:34 wannabe1987 http://thegeekgroup.org/store/posters/
15:34 BotSteve Title: The Geek GroupPosters |
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15:46 TwoTimesP Have any of you guys seen this? http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/uqlq9/reddit_i_think_there_is_a_giant_nuclear_coverup/ And what do you think?
15:46 BotSteve Title: Reddit, I think there is a giant (nuclear) coverup afoot. : politics
15:47 Electricguy i'm thinking about making a Arduino Punk Console.. :P
15:49 Electricguy need 9 pushbuttons..
15:49 Electricguy or a 8 step rotary switch and 2 pushbuttons..
15:49 Electricguy http://www.beavisaudio.com/projects/digital/ArduinoPunkConsole/
15:50 BotSteve Title: Beavis Audio Research
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16:16 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon sparky
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16:17 SparkyProjects Hi
16:18 Experimentonomen i have headache and feels generally soggy :/
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16:42 SparkyProjects http://107.22.185.79/projects/joylabs/makey-makey-an-invention-kit-for-everyone
16:42 BotSteve Title: MaKey MaKey: An Invention Kit for Everyone by Jay Silver — Kickstarter
16:46 Seroster BotSteve, should I get more air hose?
16:46 BotSteve Maybe
16:46 Seroster BotSteve, should I get more air hose?
16:46 BotSteve I don't think so
16:51 Monkeh Seroster: No air hose for you.
17:04 Experimentonomen BotSteve, should i mock Seroster?
17:04 BotSteve Oh yeah!
17:04 lwq1996 lol
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17:15 * Experimentonomen listens to some PS2 game soundtracks with the balcony door open
17:15 FunkEngine2 hmm, so I wonder how donation recipts work.  In *theory* at least these puck SCRs are like $500 a piece if you wanted to buy one from NTE/ECG or ST etc...  Since they're new in box, would I get a recipt for most of their value, cause tax refunds are nice.
17:16 FunkEngine2 BotSteve, should Seroster buy some _pneumatic_ tubing?
17:16 BotSteve I don't think so
17:16 FunkEngine2 Damn, that bot's on the ball today.
17:17 Experimentonomen :P
17:17 lwq1996 botsteve, should seroster buy some high pressure hose?
17:17 BotSteve I don't think so
17:17 * lwq1996 smacks botsteve with a big trout
17:17 Experimentonomen BotSteve hates Seroster xD
17:18 FunkEngine2 BotSteve, should Seroster buy some pressure transfer conduit?
17:18 BotSteve Maybe
17:18 lwq1996 lol
17:18 Experimentonomen BotSteve, should FunkEngine2 remove the 2 in his nick?
17:18 BotSteve Yep!
17:18 SparkyProjects I think Botsteve likes seroster, he's saving hiim some money :P
17:18 FunkEngine2 I'm still waiting for a gravity conduit.
17:18 FunkEngine2 bah, make me walk back to my bedroom, sure.
17:20 Seroster lol
17:21 Seroster Sorry, I was doing something more intulectually challenging than participating in this conversation. Cleaning the shower drain.
17:21 FunkEngine lye crystals and a splash of water.
17:22 lwq1996 you trying to get rid of his drain all together?????
17:22 FunkEngine I don't think they make them out of steel, so no.
17:23 FunkEngine I'm a fan of the CO2 cartridge based drain clearing solutions.
17:23 FunkEngine "pfthummmmmmpwooooosh"  followed by the sound of a thirsty drain gurgling/sucking.
17:24 FunkEngine Also, test idea for thumper:  Electric hot water heater element.
17:25 Electricguy too high resistance
17:25 Experimentonomen wouldent do much else than slowly discharge thumper
17:25 Electricguy perhaps the outer metal body though
17:25 FunkEngine Do the math.
17:25 Electricguy ok, it' going to burn off the heater.. thats all.. :P
17:26 Electricguy it's*
17:26 FunkEngine its for 240v at 20a, so that's 4800 watts of disipation.  To do that it would have a resistance of 12 ohms or so.
17:26 Electricguy 20A? o_O
17:26 SparkyProjects A heater is designed for 120 or 240, not 1600, and is normally cooled by rhe water, it's worth a shot
17:26 FunkEngine lets call it 18.
17:27 FunkEngine my 40 gallon tank has two elements, and sits on a 40 amp breaker.  elements are in parallell.
17:28 Electricguy well, the outer metal body is going to be WAY more fun than the heater itself
17:28 FunkEngine Yeah, if you screw up and energize an electric hot water heater without water in it, the elements will burn out in under 5 minutes.
17:29 FunkEngine Comedy option: Pickle.
17:29 FunkEngine cause you know the 120v pickle lamp project.
17:30 Electricguy i only know of a 7 segment pickle display
17:30 * SparkyProjects wonders what would happen if thumper discharged into a bucket of water
17:30 Experimentonomen actually on rated voltage, the element will not burn out, it'll just glow orange like the grill element in your oven
17:30 FunkEngine SparkyProjects: I suggested that to egrsteve last night.
17:30 SparkyProjects what did he say ?
17:31 FunkEngine Experimentonomen: Possibly, but the run on replacement elements after long power outages and people on well water sacvenging from the tank says they usually burn out.
17:31 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, i say the water will cascade all over HVL
17:31 Electricguy a pickle display.. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUstn-g3KoA&amp;feature=context-chv
17:31 BotSteve Title: Power Manager II - YouTube
17:31 Electricguy video made by Lattice Semiconductor.. XD
17:32 FunkEngine SparkyProjects: he was concerned it wasn't conductive enough, but I'm convinced that there's enough minerals in the tapwater there to start the process.  I theorize its going to disassociate the water molecules into H2 and O/O2, followed by the plasma igniting the hydrodgen/oxygen mix and making water again.  In other words a big splash.
17:32 FunkEngine Electricguy: That's an awesome use for it.
17:33 Electricguy yeah :P
17:33 FunkEngine Someone keep an eye out at the labs for Nixie tubes.  I have several awesome ideas for them.
17:33 Electricguy another silly video by Lattice semi.. XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM2hnra55Hs&amp;feature=plcp
17:33 BotSteve Title: Lattice ECP3 FPGA Jamz - YouTube
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17:37 FunkEngine SparkyProjects: I proposed starting with a plastic 5 gallon bucket with like 2 gallons in it, and see what it does, followed by scaling it up and using a 6' long section of 4 or 6 inch PVC pipe with full caps cemented to each end, and then split down the length to make a long nonconductive trough.
17:38 Seroster .c 10thou to mm
17:38 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:38 FunkEngine according to past evidence, a 55 gallon drum of brine can disapate 1 megawatt without boiling.
17:38 Seroster .c 10thousands to mm
17:38 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:39 Seroster -.-
17:39 FunkEngine .c 0.010 in to mm
17:39 BotSteve 0.254 millimeters
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17:41 FunkEngine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_rheostat
17:41 BotSteve Title: Liquid rheostat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:41 Electricguy OLD technology.. :P
17:41 Electricguy but it works :)
17:42 Experimentonomen i've seen steam generating boilers use electrodes in water rather than heating elements
17:43 Experimentonomen using the water itself as the heating element
17:43 Electricguy yeah
17:43 Electricguy common i big industries
17:44 Electricguy lulz! XD http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292632_480460661981141_793826252_n.jpg
17:44 Experimentonomen heh
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17:54 FunkEngine pfft, just on a whim I poked what it would cost to fly out instead of drive out.  over double my fuel cost, but 1/4 the time in transit...  totally not worth it.
17:57 FunkEngine Plus if I drive I can bring 400lbs of fun things(tm) with me.  Pun intended when I say I don't think most of them would fly with the TSA.
17:58 FunkEngine I've got a 3 phase 20a 480vac dimmer stack in storage that has been mocking me since 2004.
17:59 FunkEngine yes, 3phase 480vac.
17:59 FunkEngine srs bsns dimming
18:04 FunkEngine heh, I should try to bring my stack of 50 trapezoidal primary surface mirrors I salvaged out of old CRT rear projection TVs.  I'm thinking goddamned solar death ray in the general theme of Archimedes.  Original plan was to make a parabolic solar cooker out of a few.
18:04 FunkEngine but things got out of hand.
18:06 FunkEngine hmm, it can be done! http://www.dailytech.com/Hotel+Accidentally+Makes+Solar+Death+Ray+Burns+Lawyer/article19756.htm
18:06 BotSteve Title: DailyTech - Hotel Accidentally Makes Solar "Death Ray", Burns Lawyer
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18:06 FunkEngine Step 1, rig them to the south wall and roof.
18:07 FunkEngine Step two, lure Keags employees near building with rumors of burying the hatchet.
18:07 FunkEngine step three, introduce them to free heat.
18:08 FunkEngine Have we ever considered getting people into the local political system, like township supervisors, etc.
18:08 FunkEngine I mean I know politics is a losing game, but its nice to have strings to pull and favors to call in.
18:09 FunkEngine Hell a kid from my graduating class wound up mayor of the town within 6 years.  One of my childhood geek friends is on the town council now too.
18:10 FunkEngine anyway I'll leave you all to continue plotting the subjugation of the masses while I go attempt to sell myself to corporations.  Back in about 3 hours-ishhh.
18:12 lwq1996 TOAST AHOY
18:12 Toastdude :P
18:12 lwq1996 did not see you there. must of missed you name on the list
18:12 FunkEngine great now I'm going to have I like toast stuck in my head all day.
18:13 lwq1996 hes a dude and he is toast. HE IS TOASTDUDE
18:15 lwq1996 hows Toastdude doing today?
18:15 Toastdude Toastdude is well today. How is Lee?
18:16 lwq1996 tired and feels like hell with a sprinkle of headache on top
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18:20 lwq1996 hello joe1212
18:20 joe1212 hey
18:21 joe1212 does any one know any thing about tesla coils
18:22 SparkyProjects yes
18:22 lwq1996 hell yes
18:22 lwq1996 mostly SparkyProjects
18:22 joe1212 humm i cant git my spark gap to fire
18:23 lwq1996 are the electrodes corroded?
18:23 joe1212 no it all brand new
18:24 SparkyProjects WHat  trnasformer have you got, and how are you connecting the circuit ?
18:24 SparkyProjects This is how i connect mine https://sites.google.com/site/sparkysprojects/tesla-circuit
18:24 BotSteve Title: Tesla Circuit - Sparky's Project Pages
18:24 joe1212 i am using a flyback
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18:27 SparkyProjects Have you got a diagram of how you are doing this ?
18:51 killakee salutations
18:51 killakee whats up ?
18:53 lwq1996 hello killakee
19:05 Electricguy do want! http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-7-lcd-temperature-fan-speed-controller-w-cf-sd-mmc-ms-m2-tf-black-112710?item=48
19:05 BotSteve Title: 3.7" LCD Temperature/Fan Speed Controller w/ CF/SD MMC MS/M2/TF - Black - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
19:05 Electricguy but it's very overkill for my PC..
19:05 Electricguy as i only got 3 case fans
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19:15 killakee nothing over kill abuote that :  [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/89axf.jpg[/IMG]
19:15 killakee ups
19:16 killakee http://i.imgur.com/89axf.jpg
19:16 killakee there
19:17 Electricguy very ugly thermometers.. :P
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19:18 Electricguy noting overkill about my server monitor either.. :P http://i.imgur.com/uuwwU.png
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19:31 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I'm impressed, this heatsink seems to be good for about 4C/W without a fan.
19:31 Monkeh Anyone got old SEC Pentium 2's kicking around?
19:32 SparkyProjects That's good
19:43 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/55Wn1
19:43 BotSteve Title: FunwithBuildcraft - Imgur
19:44 killakee Experimentonomen: wow... you have done som hours there :)
19:45 Experimentonomen nah
19:45 Experimentonomen just creative trying things out
19:45 killakee thats the fun with it :)
19:47 Experimentonomen as in creative mode
19:47 killakee wow i didn know that a fluorecent inverter had that much voltage
19:47 killakee hehe
19:47 Experimentonomen in survival that would be several months of full day mining and such
19:48 killakee yeah..
19:48 killakee at least
19:48 Experimentonomen been tinkering while listening to SNES and BGA and PS2 game soundtracks
19:48 Experimentonomen GBA*
19:48 killakee hehe
19:50 killakee as always ac.. darn it XD
19:50 Experimentonomen ?
19:50 killakee fluorecent inverter :)
19:51 killakee i was thinking of things to do with it
19:51 Experimentonomen u mean those CCFL inverters from like scanners and lcd screens ?
19:51 killakee yeah but its from a cold tube fluorecent light from my old computher
19:52 Experimentonomen same thing
19:52 Experimentonomen they put out around 1kV noload
19:52 killakee ah
19:55 killakee 1kv thats abuote right
19:56 killakee wishes he had 4 hv diodes...
19:57 * Experimentonomen munches on mini tomatoes
19:59 killakee would have been cool to make a mini mini baterydriven tc
20:00 Experimentonomen you'd need atleast 10kV for that
20:00 killakee 10kv??
20:00 killakee i only have 6 kv for mine ;)
20:00 Experimentonomen for a spark gap tesla coil
20:01 killakee yeah
20:01 killakee and i have made tcs with 2kv bugsapper transformers
20:02 Experimentonomen below 10kV its tricky to make the spark cap and u dont get as much bang energy to turjn into sparks from the topload
20:03 killakee hmmm..
20:04 Experimentonomen ever made a sstc ?
20:04 killakee oh i soooo want to..
20:05 Electricguy a SSTC can be ran from around 12-24V :P
20:05 killakee but no
20:05 killakee i know
20:05 Electricguy not hard to make either..
20:05 killakee and you get insane cool sparks from it ..
20:06 killakee well there are meany diferent types i have seen
20:06 Electricguy just build a pulse generating circuit.. get hold of some high power MOSFETs and other misc. parts and you are set.. :P
20:06 killakee some are insanely elaborat
20:06 killakee i have the pulse generating citcuit allreadu
20:06 killakee :)
20:07 Electricguy your NST with spark gap?
20:07 killakee yes
20:07 killakee one sec
20:07 Electricguy well.. good luck with driving MOSFETs with that...
20:07 Electricguy it defeats the whole purpose of a SSTC
20:07 killakee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XptQVMNB74c&amp;list=UUWAFyW77pbFcXoZkEUnzreg&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plcp
20:07 BotSteve Title: teslacoil tuned.MP4 - YouTube
20:07 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya0o75nYBO8 <-- i mashed that together in like 10 minutes
20:07 BotSteve Title: tesla coil (very old video) - YouTube
20:08 Electricguy i know killakee.. i don't know how many times you have linked to it.. XD
20:09 killakee you asked :P
20:09 Electricguy no i didn't ask for your video.. :P
20:09 killakee hmm what mosfets did you use ?
20:09 Electricguy anyways.. a NST with spark gap is a total fail as driver for a SSTC.. :P
20:10 Electricguy as it's not even solid state.. XD
20:10 killakee Electricguy
20:10 Electricguy killakee,
20:10 killakee shut up i know
20:10 killakee all you want to do is troll me
20:10 Electricguy but why the heck did you even say that you already got a pulse generator then? XD when it's not even SSTC related? :P
20:10 killakee i freakin know that a nst issnt solid state
20:11 Electricguy no i don't want to troll you..
20:11 killakee and i wassnt linking that to you
20:11 Electricguy i just don't see the connection between a spark gap TC driver and SSTC MOSFET drivers.. :D
20:11 Electricguy ehm yes you were.. as you told me to wait.. :P
20:12 Experimentonomen confusion galore here :P
20:12 Electricguy yup.. XD
20:12 * Electricguy 's brain is full of fuck
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20:12 killakee you seriously cant think im that stupid that i think a nst has something to do with that ?
20:12 Electricguy lol.. i'm not even saying you are stupid.. :P
20:13 Electricguy but a NST with sparkgap is NOT suitable for driving MOSFETs for a SSTC.. :)
20:13 killakee i have a puls generator ... no its not the spark gap nst or has ennything to do with my old tcs..
20:13 killakee and yes i know that
20:14 Electricguy yes.. you kinda sorta really said it WAS when i asked you.. :P
20:14 Electricguy killakee> i have the pulse generating citcuit allreadu
20:14 Electricguy <killakee> :)
20:14 Electricguy <Electricguy> your NST with spark gap?
20:14 Electricguy <killakee> yes
20:14 Electricguy <killakee> one sec
20:14 Electricguy perhaps thats just an illusion.. :D
20:14 killakee http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/power-pulse-modulator-ocb/prod_41.html
20:15 killakee that is what i have
20:15 Electricguy then why did you say YES when i asked you if it was the NST with spark gap..? :P
20:15 killakee i thought you asked if my tc had a spark gap
20:16 Electricguy sigh... ok.. i guess
20:16 killakee not if i was going to use my nst ass a pulse generator
20:16 Electricguy but if you got one of these drivers.. it's like MAX 15 mins if you are a total noob to put together a SSTC...
20:17 killakee yes but i need mosfets
20:17 Electricguy that board already got a MOSFET..
20:17 Electricguy good enough for a small SSTC
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20:17 killakee eh
20:17 killakee your the first guy inn here that says that
20:18 Experimentonomen way too low freq
20:18 Electricguy what else would the POWER MOSFET on the friggin heat sink be for? :P
20:18 Electricguy surely NOT for driving more MOSFETs...
20:18 Experimentonomen a tiny coil will be like 1MHz or more
20:18 Electricguy myeah.. true
20:18 Electricguy tweak the component values
20:18 Electricguy i suppose the board got a pair of NE555's on it
20:18 Electricguy they can run up to about a MHz
20:19 killakee Frequency range 0.01 Hz to 100 kHz
20:19 Electricguy thats a max of 1/10 MHz
20:19 Electricguy too lo..
20:19 Electricguy low*
20:20 killakee k
20:20 Electricguy or you can make a larger SSTC with not so much output power
20:20 Electricguy to get the resonance freq down
20:20 Experimentonomen at 100kHz, the coil is almost as big as gemini
20:21 Electricguy then how do the slow pulsing SSTC's work? :P
20:21 Electricguy like yours.. approx 3Hz pulses..
20:21 Experimentonomen burst mode
20:22 killakee ah
20:22 Electricguy well, one pulse should give one spark.. as it builds up a magnetic field that collapses
20:22 Experimentonomen sending a interrupter signal to the enable inputs of the mosfet gate drivers
20:22 Electricguy but still. just tweak the component values on that little board and you'll get the freq up
20:22 Experimentonomen while enabled, the coil is oscillating at its resonant frequency, and when the interrupter turns off, the oscillation stops
20:23 Experimentonomen kinda like FSP modulation
20:23 Experimentonomen FSK*
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20:24 Experimentonomen this amplitude modulation with a square wave as the modulation signal
20:24 Electricguy katemonster! :3
20:24 Katemonster hi EG
20:24 Electricguy or.. as Dave Jones would say.. kaetemounstaah!
20:24 Experimentonomen g'evening kate
20:24 Katemonster hello
20:24 Katemonster wait, evening?
20:24 killakee hi kate
20:24 Electricguy whutz up?
20:24 Katemonster hi?
20:25 killakee im better off buying a sstc kit ..
20:25 killakee i think¨
20:25 * Katemonster is being payed attention to and it scares her  D:
20:25 Electricguy lulz XD
20:25 * Electricguy shuts the fuck up and just watches Katemonster doing... something.. XD
20:26 Katemonster leave me alone.  i'm having fun with debian.
20:26 Experimentonomen .cookie Katemonster
20:26 BotSteve Here you go, Katemonster, I baked you a gingerbread cookie!
20:26 Electricguy i'm just... watching.. :P
20:26 Electricguy Botsteve really bake weird shit!
20:26 Experimentonomen pepparkaka :P
20:27 Electricguy :P
20:27 Electricguy OATMEAL-GINGER-CAKE!
20:27 Electricguy o_O
20:27 Katemonster also wondering how cool of a tattoo this would make.  http://caspianseamonster.deviantart.com/#/detnj1
20:27 BotSteve Title: CaspianSeaMonster on deviantART
20:27 FunkEngine this must be fate.  I go out job hunting, and I seem to have caught a job, or at least wounded it enough to eventually catch it.
20:27 Katemonster mmm dammit wrong link.  http://fav.me/detnj1
20:27 BotSteve Title: Linux-tan fanart: Debian by *juzo-kun on deviantART
20:28 Experimentonomen most ppl that get a tatoo end up regretting it deeply after a few days
20:28 Katemonster that's a sweeping generalization.
20:28 Electricguy Katemonster, imo, cool! :P i really like that pic! :3
20:28 Electricguy i want a RFID tag implanted somewhere...
20:29 Electricguy just because :P
20:29 FunkEngine I think he's counting the people that regret it because of the whole "can't scratch." "need to scratch, can't though" "oh jesus fuck that itches but I can't scratch it for another 5 days!" regret flavor.
20:29 Katemonster lol that's true
20:29 Electricguy lol :P
20:29 FunkEngine Squirt-gun with lemon juice.;
20:29 Katemonster most people I know with tattoos are quite happy with them.  you only regret tattoos if you get a cheap tattoo from a shitty artist and it comes out really bad, or if you get a lover's name tattooed on you which is always a horrible idea.
20:29 Katemonster that's cruel, funk
20:30 Electricguy fire hydrant with sulfuric acid..
20:30 FunkEngine Schadenfreude is all I have left...
20:30 FunkEngine if you take away my schadenfreude, I will be nothing.
20:31 Experimentonomen hm
20:31 Electricguy i need to google that...
20:31 * Katemonster takes away fun's schadenfreude
20:31 * FunkEngine deflagrates into his constituent compounds...
20:31 Electricguy "pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others"
20:31 Electricguy :3
20:32 Katemonster i also have a policy against consumer tattoos.  shit that you pick out off of a wall in the tattoo parlor.  they should be unique.
20:32 FunkEngine Horrible puns are schadenfreude too.
20:32 Electricguy i want mah stuffz from Dealextreme NAO!
20:33 Katemonster something that is going on my body eventually, when it can be afforded: http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12847_1244996599816_1385712_n.jpg
20:33 Electricguy and tomorrow.. i'm gonna start building on an Arduino based 8 step sequencer.. :P
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20:36 Electricguy hmmm... i wonder where i can find at least 8 identical pushbuttons.. o_O
20:36 * Electricguy grabs a shovel and digs into his lab
20:36 Katemonster calculator?
20:38 Electricguy yay! found 6 in a short time at least :P
20:38 Electricguy nah.. need panel mount stuff
20:39 Electricguy one for each step in the sequencer i'm gonna build
20:39 Electricguy so you basically hold down a button and then tweak a potentiometer to set the pitch of that step
20:40 FunkEngine they should light up too.
20:40 FunkEngine Just, because.
20:40 Electricguy yeah.. i may implement that
20:40 Electricguy but then i need to use my Arduino MEGA..
20:40 Electricguy short on pins on the UNO
20:42 FunkEngine just use a bit-bucket, one pin for all buttons.
20:43 Electricguy there isn't even one free pin left.. :P
20:43 Electricguy and then if i use the MEGA i can just use one pin per LED
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20:44 DeKemp HI HI
20:46 Experimentonomen g'evening kemppi
20:47 DeKemp hi
20:47 DeKemp but you can call me DeKemp
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20:52 Electricguy i may have some more of those pushbuttons in one of my "Random" boxes.. :P
20:52 Electricguy otherwise i'll go with a rotary switch and one pushbutton...
20:52 DeKemp hi elect
20:52 Electricguy that'll work too
20:52 Electricguy heys dekemp :)
20:53 FunkEngine how about 4 buttons and chord it for your 8 voices.
20:53 DeKemp https://www.dropbox.com/s/jd5dnr2s8apdus2/2012-06-08%2019.09.10.jpg so this means it is x10 on a scope?
20:53 BotSteve Title: Dropbox - 2012-06-08 19.09.10.jpg - Simplify your life
20:53 FunkEngine 0001 0010 0011 0100 etc.
20:53 Electricguy 4 buttons and chord? o_O
20:53 Electricguy dekemp. yes
20:54 FunkEngine DeKemp: that means a 10v p-p signal at the probe end will be 1v p-p at the scope end I belive.
20:54 Electricguy yep
20:54 DeKemp ill mark on my scope wich number is should use
20:54 Electricguy divides the signal by 10
20:54 DeKemp or just remember :P
20:54 FunkEngine or just add a zero.
20:55 DeKemp o no, that trick doesnt work with my witches http://ckemperman.nl/opendir/PM3264/DSC_5513.JPG :P
20:55 FunkEngine Electricguy: yeah, binary.  the rightmost button is 1, pressing the next button is 2, then pressing both of them is 3, etc.
20:55 Electricguy nah..
20:55 Electricguy not very user friendly
20:55 FunkEngine I challenge you to an awesome scope contest.
20:55 FunkEngine lemme dig up the photos of mine.
20:55 Electricguy a rotary switch is almost a bit on the edge..
20:56 Electricguy gonna see if i can find 8 pushbuttons
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20:56 Monkeh DeKemp: What doesn't work with your switches?
20:57 DeKemp the x10 where you mark what the x10 should be
20:57 Electricguy i need a sturdy box for the sequencer too..
20:57 Electricguy hmmm
20:57 DeKemp works only when the numbers rotate and not the knob
20:57 Monkeh DeKemp: .. it's x10. You don't need to mark anything.
20:57 DeKemp :P
20:58 DeKemp http://www.prolexdesign.com/images/tek2225.jpg like on this one
20:58 DeKemp it says 1x and 10x
20:58 DeKemp on the v/div
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20:58 Monkeh Yeah, but you don't need that
20:58 DeKemp yes i know now
21:00 DeKemp also i have cheked for corona at the eht
21:00 DeKemp didn't see anything
21:01 FunkEngine www.funkengine.net/scope/   My tektronix 551 awesome boatanchor tube based scope.
21:03 * Experimentonomen likes the smell of old tube stuff
21:04 Experimentonomen i have an old tube radio chassis laying in a random junk cardboard box
21:04 FunkEngine I enjoy the simplicity.  Both of function, and potential deaths.
21:05 FunkEngine I'm a tube guy, s'what I do.
21:05 FunkEngine well, when I had money.
21:06 DeKemp i have a em84 cpu meter
21:06 DeKemp that doesn't work
21:06 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/NujCF <-- something i've developed over the past around 3-4 years or so
21:06 BotSteve Title: tubeamp - Imgur
21:07 DeKemp http://www.voordeelverpakking.nl/opendir/DSC_8282.JPG controlboard for the em84
21:07 FunkEngine did you add windings to that xformer?
21:07 Experimentonomen i took the original secondaries off and rewound it for around 450VDC, 6.3VAC and around 60VAC
21:08 FunkEngine Sadly, that is what we're stuck doing now, unless we wanted to blow too much money on individual core units.
21:09 FunkEngine I've made the concession that when it comes to designing things with tubes in this era, solid state power supplies are sometimes a necessary evil.
21:09 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFLezlSbl8
21:09 BotSteve Title: More tubeing - YouTube
21:10 FunkEngine its the output transformers that are hella scarce.
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21:14 wannabe1987 i think my sleep schedule is now messed up.  woo!
21:14 wannabe1987 hi FunkEngine!
21:14 FunkEngine geeks don't sleep on anyone's schedule.
21:14 Experimentonomen g'evenin wannabe1987
21:14 DeKemp true.dat
21:14 DeKemp eeving
21:15 wannabe1987 hi guys
21:15 FunkEngine ohai, aparently I went job hunting today and actually caught one, or at least wounded it enough to bring it down.
21:15 wannabe1987 found one where?
21:15 wannabe1987 congrats!  i get nothing but interviews on my hunts
21:16 * FunkEngine makes a general arm gesture indicative of the employment safari.
21:16 FunkEngine Yeah, that's been me for the last 51 months.
21:16 wannabe1987 so you found one in your state?
21:16 DeKemp my internship coppany offerde me a vacation job :)
21:16 FunkEngine I mean its a shit job, and it might not be permanent, but I'm one step closer to migrating now.
21:16 wannabe1987 what, go play video games for a month?
21:17 wannabe1987 yay
21:17 DeKemp lol
21:17 DeKemp money is expensive
21:17 FunkEngine and if it turns into a permanent position, I'll slip in a good word about sponsoring the labs, since the company in question is Ingram Micro...
21:17 injektion FunkEngine,  You could always swallow your pride and work for a temp agency and make 8.50 an hour working in a dangerous chemical factory like I did
21:17 wannabe1987 my job is litteraly a "shit job"  .... i take care of people in their homes
21:18 FunkEngine injektion: I once worked in an iron foundry, more ways to die slowly there.
21:18 DeKemp 8.5 is below my minimum salary :)
21:18 FunkEngine I'd only do 8.5/hr if the place was across the street and I didn't need to factor in fuel or commute time.
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21:19 Experimentonomen g'evenin yr
21:19 injektion I'd like to escape working there and get something that pays better but I haven't been able to do so
21:19 wannabe1987 :/  poor injection
21:19 Yrouel hi
21:19 FunkEngine injektion: any chemical family in particular, or just all the ones with the fun hazard placards.
21:20 wannabe1987 hi Yrouel
21:20 DeKemp minimumwage for me is 8.90
21:20 DeKemp doallar
21:20 Damianz wannabe1987: I wondered what the smell was
21:20 Yrouel I'm just watching an episode of dirty jobs and it happens that they are cleaning coins
21:20 wannabe1987 its me!
21:20 injektion FunkEngine, I work around pool chemicals more specifically chlorine so hazardous that it can cause some serious health effects if you get it on your skin
21:20 wannabe1987 really.  how?
21:20 FunkEngine at some point we should organize a "Loan a Brain" geek temp/staffing agency for the GR area.
21:20 Yrouel they just dumped the dirty quarters in a machine full of BBs
21:20 Damianz Well yeah don't put chlorine on your skin
21:20 Experimentonomen im unemployed and broke
21:20 DeKemp my grandfather as falen in a bath of sulferic acid
21:20 Yrouel and added some borax and water
21:21 * Damianz glues Experimentonomen back together
21:21 injektion Damianz, It's kind of hard NOT to do that
21:21 wannabe1987 hmmm
21:21 FunkEngine injektion: Oh I know all the joys of that.  Could be worse though, like chromic acid or any of several chemicals that smell like satan's chamberpot.
21:21 Yrouel and the thing tumbles
21:21 * wannabe1987 should go find clothes
21:21 Electricguy there we go. got a serial LCD hooked to the Arduino now.. showing the tempo and note duration :P
21:21 wannabe1987 so she can get to the lab....its almost 5:30
21:21 Experimentonomen and i have over 100 euros worth in unpaid bills that goes to repo june 15
21:21 Yrouel so basically the same concept we where discussing some days ago
21:21 DeKemp only 100 :P
21:22 Yrouel a tumbler with something in it to polish the coins
21:22 FunkEngine Yrouel: Excellent.  A shot tumbler is what they need.  Although BBs are too round, I'm serious here when I say smash up a few beer bottles and use that.
21:23 Yrouel Funprobably just some sand will do the job
21:23 wannabe1987 they have a rock tumbler
21:23 FunkEngine lacks inertia.
21:23 injektion If I have a motherboard that has RAM slots by each CPU socket do I need 2 CPUs to use all the RAM slots?
21:23 Yrouel the key point is the tumbling
21:23 Experimentonomen i only get around 500 euros/month from social security, and 400 of those goto rent and bills
21:23 FunkEngine injektion: AMD or Intel?
21:23 injektion Intel Xenon
21:23 FunkEngine Yes.
21:23 Experimentonomen so i have almost nothing left to food and such
21:23 injektion Thought so
21:23 DeKemp my study is free!
21:23 injektion I had an AMD Opteron system like that
21:24 DeKemp i don't have the pay the 1200 euro/year, local companys do that
21:24 injektion It's hard as hell to find Fujitsu Siemens server parts in the UIS
21:24 injektion US*
21:24 FunkEngine they make... servers?
21:25 injektion Yes
21:25 FunkEngine like, actual hardware and not rebadge?
21:25 DeKemp GERMANY!
21:25 FunkEngine Deutschland! Deutschland! Uber Alles!
21:25 injektion http://www.pc-look.com/boutik/images/Plus2/008012-692_p001.jpg
21:25 DeKemp if it says siemes, it probly isn't going to suck
21:25 injektion That's what it looks like
21:26 Experimentonomen thats a work station
21:26 Experimentonomen servers are 19" rack or blades
21:26 injektion They do make tower servers :P
21:26 Yrouel btw the episode of dirty jobs I'm talking about is titled "Water Softener Technician"
21:27 wannabe1987 FUCK
21:27 FunkEngine Yrouel: anyway sand has too much contact area, you'll wind up wiping them smooth, broken glass on the other hand will more or less just scrape the surface stuff off.
21:27 DeKemp Deutsche Demokratische Republik !
21:27 Damianz No thanks
21:27 wannabe1987 i don't work tomorrow, the client is *very picky* and won't accept me
21:27 wannabe1987 Damianz: not @ you, @ work things.  or zozo
21:27 Yrouel FunkEngine BBs seems to do the jobs very well tho
21:27 Damianz wannabe1987: You go to work in lycra again?
21:27 Yrouel the quarters ended up shiny as new
21:27 wannabe1987 no....
21:27 FunkEngine Impressive.
21:28 Yrouel also as I said they added borax
21:28 FunkEngine What they really need is a Parr-Shaker.
21:28 Yrouel so it's a chemical process too
21:28 FunkEngine ahh, right.
21:28 Yrouel BBs + water + borax + tumbling
21:28 FunkEngine are these crossman BBs, (copper plated) or just generic/daisy steel?
21:28 wannabe1987 i have borax
21:28 Yrouel they are silverly
21:28 Yrouel so I think normal BBs
21:29 FunkEngine were they silvery when they came out of the milk carton though?  It might be a reduction process and the copper is involved somehow.
21:29 Experimentonomen arent BBs lead ?
21:29 DeKemp time for some music  http://youtu.be/TBerZRdHiYg?hd=1
21:29 BotSteve Title: Rammstein - Haifisch (Rock am Ring 2010) - YouTube
21:29 FunkEngine no, they wouldn't stay round enough reliably to not jam the barrel.
21:29 Yrouel FunkEngine I don't know
21:29 Yrouel the BBs where already in the machine
21:30 Yrouel they don't specified the type
21:30 Experimentonomen i've shot BBs and they were lead, even had the "wsash your hands after use" warning on them
21:30 Yrouel if you want the episode is easily downloadable
21:30 FunkEngine Experimentonomen: Those are pellets.
21:30 DeKemp BBs?
21:31 FunkEngine Ohhh, I just had a brainstorm.
21:31 wannabe1987 uh oh
21:31 wannabe1987 watch out world
21:31 DeKemp lol
21:31 FunkEngine Slap em in a brass cleaner, for cartridge reloading.
21:31 Yrouel DeKemp little metal balls
21:31 DeKemp ah
21:32 FunkEngine or make your own, and just go buy the tumbling media from the gun store.
21:32 Yrouel like bearings
21:32 DeKemp thought you meant  ball bearing but those aren't lead :P  whould make a horiable bearing
21:32 FunkEngine !
21:32 FunkEngine it would make a horrible _ball_ bearing.
21:32 Yrouel Dethey are like ball bearings
21:32 FunkEngine lead makes quite an EXCELLENT friction bearing.
21:32 Yrouel DeKemp BBs are like ball bearings
21:33 DeKemp ''<Experimentonomen> i've shot BBs and they were lead, even had the "wsash your hands after use" warning on them''
21:33 Yrouel I think that lead one are called shots but I may be mistaken
21:33 FunkEngine they're pellets.
21:33 DeKemp :)
21:33 Yrouel ok
21:33 Yrouel anyway
21:33 DeKemp just imagine   lead ball bearings...
21:34 FunkEngine they'd be ok if the load was purely axial.
21:34 Experimentonomen lead shot
21:34 Yrouel so I was right Experimentonomen ?
21:34 Yrouel right-ish?
21:34 Yrouel :P
21:35 Experimentonomen im not a gunman
21:35 Experimentonomen but i have fired off air rifles, 22cal rifles and shotgun
21:35 DeKemp i have shot bb guns, air rifles and supersoakers !
21:36 DeKemp and lazer guns
21:36 wannabe1987 i've shot ak-47s and pistols,
21:36 Katemonster most if not all BBs are lead, and i don't think they are manufactured to ball-bearing tollerances
21:37 DeKemp you should open cary a sidearm here :P proberly get like 10 police cars in less then a femtosecond
21:37 Katemonster small round lead pellets (like BBs) are referred to, plural,as 'shot' when you're talking about firing several of them as a single payload out of a shotgun.
21:37 Yrouel btw how the guys at tgg are cleaning the coins now?
21:38 Yrouel if they continued to clean them
21:38 * Katemonster gets back to work if there are no further questions about guns
21:38 wannabe1987 alka seltzer i think?
21:38 wannabe1987 or an "ultrasonic" cleaner
21:39 wannabe1987 they're dirty going into stomper, so i think they should be cleaned then and then cleaned coming out of stomper too, dirt get compacted in the coins
21:40 DeKemp clean them with thumper
21:41 DeKemp how about electrolytic cleaning?
21:41 Experimentonomen hm 20 minutes to midn  ight, i think im gonna goto bed
21:41 Experimentonomen nite peepz
21:42 wannabe1987 DeKemp: idk
21:42 Electricguy bedtime! :)
21:42 Electricguy night guys and gals
21:43 FunkEngine BotSteve, Should I open the champagne?
21:43 BotSteve Oh yeah!
21:43 FunkEngine woohoo, partystime.
21:43 wannabe1987 night Electricguy
21:43 DeKemp BotSteve, Am i awsome?
21:43 DeKemp no responce
21:43 FunkEngine BotSteve, should DeKemp check his ego?
21:43 BotSteve No way
21:45 Monkeh Whoa whoa whoa
21:45 Monkeh Who the hell is shooting BBs?
21:45 Monkeh They're hopeless.
21:46 wannabe1987 DeKemp: he needs a "should" question.  its all in the syntax
21:46 DeKemp ah
21:46 Av_Nekoroms and not having a space in the beginning
21:46 Av_Nekoroms of the nick
21:46 DeKemp what a dumb bot :P
21:46 Av_Nekoroms BotSteve, Am i awsome?
21:47 FunkEngine Well hurry up and invent AI so it can be smart.
21:47 Av_Nekoroms still it has no idea
21:47 DeKemp BotSteve, should i be awsome?
21:47 BotSteve No way
21:47 Monkeh DeKemp: OUT! You're not awesome enough.
21:48 DeKemp :(
21:48 DeKemp i'm going to tell my mother
21:48 wannabe1987 lol
21:48 wannabe1987 i'm the irc mom.  gl
21:49 DeKemp you are not my mom
21:49 wannabe1987 good
21:49 wannabe1987 but i've been called the "irc mom" before
21:49 Damianz did you have sex with an internets?
21:49 wannabe1987 yes
21:50 FunkEngine Who hasn't?
21:50 Monkeh A creature from the internets, anyway
21:50 Damianz See, experimentation is fun
21:50 wannabe1987 lol
21:52 FunkEngine shoutcast plus an iBod counts as cybersex, or teledildonics.
21:53 FunkEngine and hey while we're on the topic did you ever realize that Strap-on is no-parts backwards?
21:53 * FunkEngine listens for the distant sounds of mind==blown.
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21:57 Katemonster hah
21:58 Damianz o.0
21:58 FunkEngine I'll let you figure out what boobytrap is backwards on your own.
21:58 Seroster__ HEH! =D
21:58 Damianz FunkEngine: http://chzemokid.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/emo-scene-hipster-it-stole-my-strap-on.jpg
21:58 Damianz that is all
22:00 FunkEngine There seriously needs to be a man-door near the big door in MDH.
22:00 FunkEngine opening the big one just to go in/out for one person is wasteful.
22:00 Damianz Should have a human/zombie door in the big door
22:00 Seroster SparkyProjects, guess who found a big damn circulation pump with built in VFD?
22:01 Damianz Though if you're batman you can justify opening the big door
22:01 SparkyProjects That's cool :)
22:02 Seroster If I can get the VFD to work I might build a motor control unit from it, else it's back to the bin
22:02 Seroster Too damn heavy to keep around
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22:06 FunkEngine is it 3-phase?
22:06 SparkyProjects If you don't get it to work, strip the useful components out of it
22:10 tonsofpcs hi
22:11 tonsofpcs VFD that is AC fed or DC fed?
22:12 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: there's one on the side, but I think the magnets are blocking it.  Also, when I was there, it couldn't be locked from the outside.  not sure the current situ.
22:12 ajprog_laptop tonsofpcs: it is lock, people can use it they are just lazy
22:13 FunkEngine cause the big one is open again, all that heat we paid to move outside is comin back in. :)
22:13 tonsofpcs jefffffffffffffffFF!
22:13 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: oo! they should convert the door into a peltier element
22:13 FunkEngine I'm actrually suprised the roof hasn't sprouted a bumper crop of solar panels by now.
22:14 tonsofpcs solar panels cost $$$$
22:14 tonsofpcs studies to even think about solar panels cost $$$$
22:14 FunkEngine oh come on.
22:14 FunkEngine we all know that's crap from both ends.
22:14 tonsofpcs also, I think the lab probably uses so much energy that they can't even offset the cost over time
22:14 FunkEngine buy cheap panels, use geek labor, do fun stuff. :)
22:14 ajprog_laptop how is that crap?
22:14 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: having gone through all the studies and analyses, it isn't crap.
22:15 FunkEngine we're geeks, we don't need to pay for a study.
22:15 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: ok, go ahead and do it.
22:15 tonsofpcs what % of the year is the light in the proper direction and proper amounts for solar panels to work?
22:15 tonsofpcs how much energy will come from that?
22:15 ajprog_laptop just look at the output, it take over 5-10years to pay for themselves
22:15 FunkEngine in michigan you're not going to get much.
22:16 ajprog_laptop and probably less in Michigan
22:16 FunkEngine however if you think about thermal offsetting heating costs in the winter, the system is cheaper to begin with, and more efficient.
22:16 tonsofpcs how much does that cost from the grid?  does the grid pay you the same as you pay them or will you need to maintain your own charge system?  can you even tie into the grid legally?  will it cost money to do so?
22:16 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: we're not tying into the grid.
22:16 FunkEngine lord knows the lab drinks juice like a fish.
22:16 tonsofpcs so what are you using it for?
22:17 tonsofpcs and don't say lighting, because it's a lot easier to put in a different type of silicon-based panel for solar lighting.
22:18 FunkEngine I was thinking more like run the coffee machine, or a fridge
22:18 tonsofpcs how does the fridge run overnight?
22:18 tonsofpcs how does the coffee machine run in the morning?
22:19 FunkEngine what PV solar implementation are you looking at that doesn't involve storage?
22:19 tonsofpcs even with a storage system: what if there hasn't been enough light for the past few /n/?
22:19 FunkEngine then the grid fills in.
22:19 tonsofpcs that's called tying into the grid.
22:19 FunkEngine the point is that TGG doesn't do things because they're cheap or efficient.
22:20 ajprog_laptop FunkEngine: nope they do them because they are donated
22:20 FunkEngine tying into the grid means two way power meters, not a UPS with solar feeding the batteries.  (large ups, not desktop, real AC-DC-AC UPSes.)
22:20 ajprog_laptop so if you donate some solar panels I am sure they will be used
22:20 FunkEngine Somewhere out there there is a warehouse full of obsolete iphone solar chargers.
22:20 tonsofpcs right, but they also shouldn't throw money around at projects that don't do anything useful.  If you want a solar demo, go buy a $5 3" panel and use a small peltier element to cool a cup of water with an attached thermometer.
22:21 ajprog_laptop key word obsolete
22:21 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: No if I want a solar demo I'll bring my stack of 50 trapezoidal pirmary surface mirrors I salvaged from RP-CRT TVs with me and we can set a house on fire across the street.
22:21 tonsofpcs you could even build it in a fancy project case for a demo.
22:21 ajprog_laptop yes may used for a science experiment but nothing on the scale that you are talking
22:21 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: they did that... well, not a house....
22:22 tonsofpcs it's a different type of panel used for an iphone charger than a grid replacement
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22:23 FunkEngine right, but if you suddenly find yourself with 20,000 of them, you could do something with them.
22:24 FunkEngine I also just shot down my own theory, I keep forgetting about snow and solar.
22:24 FunkEngine fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
22:26 tonsofpcs snow and solar actually isn't as big of a deal as it seems, so long as the solar isn't at street level (salt issues)
22:26 wannabe1987 ttyl
22:26 tonsofpcs yes, it does degrade them over time, but you keep black solar panels and you sweep them just like you would a satelite dish
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22:27 tonsofpcs solar panels get tilted to catch the best sun anyway, so melted water will roll off
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22:27 tonsofpcs we have a retail outlet near here that has a roof full of solar
22:28 FunkEngine and if power companies can slap 2'x6' panels up on top of utility poles like they have been recently, there's gotta be some worth in it.
22:28 Yrouel marketing?
22:29 Yrouel good PRs?
22:29 FunkEngine not really, because its a PR nightmare.
22:29 FunkEngine NIMBY
22:29 FunkEngine "LOOK AT THAT UGLY THING THAT ISN'T EVEN ON MY PROPERTY! IT CAUSED MY HOUSE TO DEVALUE BY THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!" etc.
22:29 Yrouel really?
22:29 Yrouel lol
22:29 FunkEngine its the same reason we have the law that says you can't restrict small dishes.
22:30 FunkEngine yeah, there was a big fracas in NJ where people were damaging them to get them taken down.
22:31 FunkEngine Further proof that Ignorance and Stupidity will be the end of civilization.
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22:31 Yrouel welll I'm not so surprised here solar panels and wind turbines are considered ugly by many people and thus by some politicians
22:31 Yrouel BUT
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22:31 Yrouel basically same people
22:32 Yrouel doesn't want nuclear, coal and incinerators
22:32 * FunkEngine does some math to see if Thumper could be charged in a reasonable time by the area of the roof in average PV cells.
22:32 Yrouel so basically here most peopla want energy created by magic...
22:32 Yrouel people*
22:33 Yrouel so so sad and depressing
22:33 FunkEngine Anybody have a figure for the self discharge rate on thumper, or the current required to hold it at a predetermined voltage?
22:33 FunkEngine Heh, put a tesla coil on the roof and fire it up at night.
22:34 Yrouel I'm in italy btw
22:34 Yrouel not so long ago people voted to ban nuclear
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22:34 Yrouel so we have to rely on gas and coal mostly
22:35 Yrouel and import of electrical energy
22:35 FunkEngine its funny because you banned nuclear power, but probably import nuclear derived power anyway.
22:35 FunkEngine hipocrites.
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22:36 FunkEngine if the country next to me banned nuclear, I'd totally build 4 or 5 of them near the border and sell it to them anyway. :)
22:36 wannabe1987 labs!
22:36 Yrouel well to be honest we have some serious problems dealing with nuclear stuff, long story short great scientist, really bad managers and politicians
22:36 Yrouel so we still have most of the nuclear waste from our past
22:36 FunkEngine wannabe1987: go shut the MDH door that's just letting all the heat in. :3
22:36 Yrouel and it's stored in well not so safe conditions
22:37 FunkEngine oh nm chris is vehicling now.
22:37 Yrouel (we have confirmed leaks in a site)
22:37 Yrouel the water wells around are contaminated
22:37 FunkEngine that's what happens when you go from R&D funding, to contract bids.
22:37 Yrouel exactly
22:38 tonsofpcs sorry, just got invited to a taco party, needed rice on the cook
22:38 Thermoelectric .t est
22:38 BotSteve Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:38:45 EST
22:38 FunkEngine .t edt
22:38 BotSteve Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:38:58 EDT
22:38 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: as for the solar panels on poles, those are placed in areas with high demand and are tied directly to the grid.
22:39 Yrouel FunkEngine but obviously when someting moved forward about the construction of a new national nuclear waste storage facility in a proper safe site people complained
22:39 tonsofpcs Yrouel: of course, the three people who lived withinn 50 miles of it were so upset and theen everyone they knew was upset and the media made all the folsk in california upset and ....
22:40 tonsofpcs Yrouel: just like there's still three families living in PA on top of the coal fire that refuse to admit it exists//can harm them
22:40 FunkEngine anywhere is safer than out in the air next to the reactor it came from.
22:40 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Its down to Two now.  I drive through Centralia twice a month on average.
22:40 Yrouel tonsofpcs but the best part is that then the government fall back to basically reuse a site which is near a river which often overflow
22:40 Yrouel and people complained about that too
22:41 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: is it? did family #3 finally sell? I heard a few months back that they were thinking about it
22:41 Yrouel so not only here people want energy made by magic but also the waste to disappear magically
22:41 FunkEngine Dunno if they sold but the house disappeared shortly after christmas.
22:41 Yrouel it's pure crazyness around here
22:41 tonsofpcs well 'sell' to the govenment buyout program
22:41 tonsofpcs I think we aired something about it actually *checks*
22:41 FunkEngine And they don't refuse to admit it, they just refuse to be forcibly moved out, and are willing to accept the risks.
22:41 tonsofpcs also, where exactly is the coal fire?
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22:42 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: no, at least one of the guys refuses to believe it
22:42 FunkEngine right now its about 1200 meters southeast of the main crossroads, and 300 feet down, burning southwest.
22:42 Yrouel coal fire as in a coal mine that catched fire that's impossible to extinguish?
22:42 FunkEngine Yes.
22:42 FunkEngine been burning since the 60s.
22:42 tonsofpcs Yrouel: yea, like 20 years ago
22:42 tonsofpcs ok, 40
22:42 tonsofpcs (50?)
22:42 Yrouel and people lives above that?
22:43 FunkEngine yeah, its not so bad.
22:43 FunkEngine hang the fuck on I have pictures.
22:43 FunkEngine laugh if you will but I had two different women fly in from literally the west coast to spend time with me, so I took them up there. :3
22:43 Yrouel doesn't the fire produce toxic fumes?
22:44 FunkEngine yes.
22:44 tonsofpcs is that north of Allentown?
22:44 Yrouel FunkEngine why laugh? lucky you
22:44 Yrouel I bet those some people doesn't want nuclear
22:44 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Censign.jpg
22:44 BotSteve Title: File:Censign.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:45 Yrouel I was wondering if could be possible to harness some of that energy from the fire underground
22:45 Yrouel at least for heating homes
22:45 tonsofpcs transport is probably a killer...
22:45 tonsofpcs could use it to boil water to spin turbines though....
22:46 Yrouel yeah one way or another
22:46 DeKemp http://www.boingboing.net/filesroot/gatesofhellturkmenistan.jpg
22:46 Yrouel that's from coal too or lava?
22:46 FunkEngine uploadsin.
22:46 DeKemp natural gas
22:47 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: It saves them having to shovel snow off the roads/sidewalks.
22:47 Yrouel oh
22:47 Yrouel at least is cleaner than coal
22:47 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derweze
22:47 BotSteve Title: Derweze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:47 tonsofpcs http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-25/fire-still-burns-in-centralia/55213824/1
22:47 BotSteve Title: After 50 years, fire still burns underneath Pa. town – USATODAY.com
22:47 FunkEngine www.funkengine.net/centralia/
22:47 tonsofpcs (AP story)
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22:48 tonsofpcs Carl Womer, 88, whose late wife, Helen, was the leader of a faction that fiercely resisted the government buyout, disagrees the fire poses any threat.
22:48 tonsofpcs "What mine fire?" Womer asked dismissively as he hosed down his front porch, preparing, he said, for a Memorial Day picnic. "If you go up and see a fire, you come back and tell me."
22:48 tonsofpcs ^^^^
22:48 FunkEngine I don't have the pics from last October though, we used her camera, and I forgot to grab them before she flew back, and then I never remembered, and now she's out on a road trip till like the 28th.
22:49 FunkEngine Well nobody's house burned down because ofit.
22:49 FunkEngine and since they've been living there so long, the fumes can't be that toxic.
22:49 FunkEngine and really the fire moved out from under the town sometime in the 80s.
22:50 Yrouel uhm
22:50 Twiddlekins__ only seam fire im aware of in australia has been going at least 6000 years
22:50 Twiddlekins__ so could be a while yet :P
22:50 FunkEngine yeah but you guys have that lignite shit.
22:50 FunkEngine we're dealing with anthracite.
22:51 Twiddlekins__ nah this is bituminous in the new england region, bit better quality than the lignite
22:51 tonsofpcs ok, saffron's in
22:51 FunkEngine still greasy.
22:51 Twiddlekins__ yup
22:51 Yrouel doesn't coal became coke when burned with little oxygen?
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22:52 FunkEngine that's how its usually done.
22:52 Yrouel so
22:52 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: well, the book writer guy says something about him being tthe only one actually in danger of the ffire of the folks staying
22:52 tonsofpcs (him being the guuy who refuses to admit to the fire)
22:52 FunkEngine there is "petroleum coke" that comes out of the fracing columns.
22:52 Yrouel could this coal fire be producing tons of coke?
22:52 Yrouel maybe usable?
22:52 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: do you have raw versons of these too?
22:52 FunkEngine nope, its got plenty of oxygen.
22:53 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Let me look, _those_ specific pictures, no.  I might have some better ones from my camera, or when she gets back from her trip I might finally get her to send them to me.
22:53 * wannabe1987 works tonight
22:54 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: well, I was just asking because Adobe has (I think still) a free beta of lightroom.
22:54 DeKemp paint.net!
22:54 tonsofpcs paintball.net > paint.net
22:55 DeKemp heu
22:56 tonsofpcs (although it's been gone for like 15 years)
22:56 Yrouel FunkEngine the cracks on the road are from the heat or what?
22:56 FunkEngine nope, I got nothing. :(  I e-mailed her to see if she uploaded them somewhere.
22:56 FunkEngine subsidence.
22:56 FunkEngine the coal burns out, leaves a void, ground falls in.
22:56 Yrouel oh
22:57 FunkEngine What's really funny though is that Centralia has a nice firetruck and an ambulance.
22:57 FunkEngine and will until the last people die or move.
22:57 FunkEngine They lost their zipcode in the 80s.
22:58 Seroster Another thing to add to the pile of stuff that i want but have no use for!    http://www.tradera.com/y-d-kopplare-med-fram-back-funktion-11kw-auktion_301864_157794500
22:58 BotSteve Title: Y/D-Kopplare med fram/back funktion 11kW på Tradera. Elinstallation |
22:58 Yrouel the firetruck is ironic
22:58 FunkEngine its only 150 kroner.
22:58 FunkEngine just buy it.
22:58 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: so did they knock dowwn all the buildings when people left?
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22:58 FunkEngine immediately.
22:59 FunkEngine because once the person left, the government was liable if someone broke in and suffocated, etc.
22:59 tonsofpcs what about business buildings?
22:59 Seroster FunkEngine, your origin?
22:59 tonsofpcs those down too?
22:59 FunkEngine the last business folded up out of there in 2005.
22:59 FunkEngine Seroster: I was born in the county that Centralia is in.
23:00 tonsofpcs Seroster: what exactly is that switch?
23:00 FunkEngine its a wye-delta selector for a 3-phase motor.
23:00 tonsofpcs why does it have two wyes and two deltas? and how often do you really need to change that?
23:00 tonsofpcs (ccw and cw?)
23:00 FunkEngine that was my guess.
23:01 DeKemp every time you start up the motor you chang it
23:01 Seroster tonsofpcs,
23:01 FunkEngine and some motors start on one but work best on the other, I think.
23:01 Seroster Yes, FunkEngine
23:01 FunkEngine and if you do things right you can wind up with six phases.
23:01 Seroster tonsofpcs, if you switch phases you get reversed rotation
23:01 tonsofpcs Seroster: right, that's cw/ccw
23:01 FunkEngine because the three from Wye and the three from Delta come out at a few degrees difference.
23:01 wannabe1987 BitViper:  5 minutes or so till i need to leave the lab...
23:02 FunkEngine wannabe1987: hah, so they just called you up and said "we've got work" :3
23:02 wannabe1987 yes.  they did
23:02 Seroster I assume that it starts easier on Y
23:02 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: yes, I understand the differences between Wye and Delta, but why are you changing the service that is fed to the motor without changing how?
23:02 wannabe1987 an hour and a half before a 12 hour shift....
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23:02 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: can you charge them double?
23:02 wannabe1987 lol i wish.
23:03 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: its more like you're re-arranging the windings of the motor, not the incoming service.
23:03 wannabe1987 i didn't have anything going on tonight, thankfully, and i put dinner on the crockpot tonight...
23:03 DeKemp motor should only bu run in wye
23:03 FunkEngine mmm, slow cooked goodness.
23:03 DeKemp and started in delta
23:03 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: but you don't need to do that if you don't change the service...
23:03 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: see DeKemp's comments.
23:03 tonsofpcs DeKemp: what?
23:03 DeKemp it is for starting the motor
23:04 DeKemp start up current
23:04 Seroster It's for magic.
23:04 Thermoelectric http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_soft_starter#Star-delta_start-up
23:04 BotSteve Title: Motor soft starter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:04 FunkEngine Everything is magic with three-phase.
23:04 Seroster Anyway, it is useful if you are playing around with three phase motors
23:04 tonsofpcs oh, so for the motor-windings leg-connections, not the transformer feeding it
23:04 joe1212 ok any one know any thing a bout flybacks
23:04 tonsofpcs joe1212: lots.
23:04 DeKemp they spark?
23:05 tonsofpcs mostly: they're loud, high pitched, and annoying when they aren't in proper function (and even sometimes when they are)
23:05 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: Yeah I can hear a CRT tv for hundreds of feet.
23:05 Thermoelectric They're much quieter on a ZVS driver.
23:05 joe1212 i need to know how to use it to power a tesla coil
23:05 FunkEngine like in school I could hear a TV come on 5 classrooms down the hall if the doors were open.
23:06 Seroster joe1212, It's an art, and the coil will be low power
23:06 Seroster In essence what you do is take DC, pump the freq up to a few hundred khz and then feed that to a few windings around the ferrite
23:06 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: I finally replaced the set in my bedroom with a LCD, used my sears rewards and got a COBY (they were the only ones offering a decent panel in the size I wanted, oddly)
23:06 Seroster You need a good transistor for the driver, joe1212
23:07 DeKemp dc transformer
23:07 Seroster There should be one in the TV that you got the transformer frm
23:07 FunkEngine Seroster: If he's the guy I was talking to last night, I think he's got an internally rectified flyback that may have flashed over.
23:07 Seroster It will be mounted to the biggest heatsink in the TV, close to the flyback
23:07 Seroster Sounds like fun, funk
23:07 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I'm going to have to ask you to think about what you just did using the words COBY and decent in the same sentence.
23:07 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: there's really only like 3 people who make panels...
23:08 tonsofpcs the tuner features are horrid but it's for my bedroom, I didn't really care
23:08 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: yes, and COBY raids the dumpsters at all 3.
23:08 tonsofpcs and I made sure I could return it within 30 days.
23:08 DeKemp coby?
23:08 tonsofpcs you're welcome to come see it.
23:08 tonsofpcs DeKemp: SONY knockoff.
23:08 DeKemp lol
23:08 tonsofpcs (well, that's how they started at least)
23:09 FunkEngine yeah, what was the other craptastic DVD player maker, like the first one to have one for under $30...
23:09 tonsofpcs APEX
23:09 FunkEngine oh giod yes.
23:09 FunkEngine FUCK APEX.
23:09 joe1212 i got to talk later
23:09 tonsofpcs APEX makes some decent things, but they charge for those.
23:09 tonsofpcs like, APEX makes one of the few really good DVD players, but it costs more than the Sony.  I think they're some development lab for someone, much like AIWA was for Sony.
23:10 DeKemp we have a old daewoo tv...
23:10 DeKemp that is rotting away in a corner
23:10 tonsofpcs I grew up with a Mitsubishi TV, I'm now looking at a Mitsubishi automobile....
23:10 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: I think its more like they don't pay for the DVD license andjust do whatever they want.
23:10 DeKemp i grew up with philips,  why dont the make cars :(
23:10 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: what DVD license?
23:10 FunkEngine I grew up with Zenith.
23:11 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: the one you have to pay to make anything that decodes DVDs, allegedly. ;-)
23:11 FunkEngine speaking of craptacular but sometimes awesome video things.
23:12 FunkEngine I own an RCA selectavision CED player and an assortment of discs, including Diamonds Are Forever.
23:12 FunkEngine Video on VINYL.
23:12 DeKemp lol
23:12 DeKemp why not
23:12 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: Video on Laserdisc is more impressive than Video on Vinyl.
23:12 tonsofpcs (and yes, I've seen a Video-on-'vinyl' player with a cardboard video disc)
23:12 FunkEngine no, no, no, vinyl is more impressive.
23:12 DeKemp wtf laserdisk
23:12 DeKemp never heard of it.
23:12 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: do you understand how video is encoded on a laserdisc?
23:12 DeKemp giant ass cd
23:12 FunkEngine analog.
23:13 FunkEngine DeKemp: fuck no its analog video.
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23:13 tonsofpcs well, PWM with .....
23:13 DeKemp it looks like a giant ass cd
23:13 tonsofpcs it'ss an insane encoding :)
23:13 FunkEngine DeKemp: yes, but its not digital.
23:13 tonsofpcs it's also physically CD compatible
23:13 tonsofpcs (LD players have all the guts to play CDs)
23:13 FunkEngine yep.
23:13 FunkEngine but not 80mm cds.
23:14 tonsofpcs and I have seen PCM encoded audio discs at 1/2-LD size (the middle tray in the LD palyer)
23:14 DeKemp video2000 !
23:14 tonsofpcs DeKemp: fuck no.
23:14 DeKemp or betamax
23:14 tonsofpcs 1/2" EIJ!
23:14 FunkEngine oh god laser on polyester tape was born to FAIL.
23:14 DeKemp not the crappy vhs
23:14 injektion <3 LaserDisc
23:14 tonsofpcs no, 1/2" EIJ is open-reel black and white
23:15 DeKemp ah those
23:15 tonsofpcs FunkEngine: you mean dolby digital on 'film'? :)
23:15 DeKemp with the 2 big rolls?
23:15 tonsofpcs no, not big
23:15 tonsofpcs tiny (well, relatively)
23:15 FunkEngine tonsofpcs: no, this was holographic, difraction interference patterns.
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23:15 tonsofpcs oh, the triangley thingy
23:16 FunkEngine But anyway, I have to say that once I readjusted the CED player, it actually gave a suprisingly nice picture given what it is and all.
23:17 tonsofpcs anyway, off for tacos w/ my saffron rrice
23:17 tonsofpcs (I'm classing them up a bit, i know)
23:17 DeKemp ?
23:18 Carvagon enjoy
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23:21 DeKemp hi
23:25 exor674 hah wow, I actually caught my UPS freak out for once! input voltage dropped below 115v
23:26 DeKemp it goes to backup mode at that voltage?
23:26 exor674 at least that's what it said when I looked at it
23:26 exor674 it might go into a half-backup mode or something
23:27 DeKemp how much tollerance does the us grid have?
23:27 DeKemp her it is 10#% i think
23:28 Yrouel one thing I don't really know is why europe is at 220/230 VAC when USA proves that you can live fine with 110/120VAC
23:28 exor674 +/- 5% it seems
23:28 exor674 so it probably hit 114
23:28 DeKemp less amps
23:28 FunkEngine Yrouel: not really considering we need weirdo plugs for big A/Cs and dryers and ranges etc.
23:28 DeKemp you need as thick of a cable
23:28 exor674 DeKemp: except for electric stoves and dryers
23:29 exor674 and A/Cs yeah
23:29 DeKemp ?
23:29 exor674 those are usually "phase-to-phase" 240ish
23:29 Yrouel sooo
23:29 Yrouel then
23:29 DeKemp ah
23:29 FunkEngine not true, UK uses ringmains, which do horrible things to my brain but allow thinner wires anyway.
23:29 Yrouel why USA still have mixed 110 and 220 instead of simply 220?
23:29 DeKemp ringmains...
23:30 exor674 Yrouel: because technical inertia
23:30 FunkEngine DeKemp: mindboggling, I know.
23:30 DeKemp http://www.joostdevree.nl/bouwkunde2/jpgp/perilex_1_www_abl-sursum_de.jpg  thats for ovens etc
23:30 Yrouel exor674 but most appliances are already made double standard
23:30 exor674 a LOT of things are still dumb powersupplies that need 120v
23:30 DeKemp they have different amps versions. and can suport 3 phase
23:30 exor674 cheap ones don't
23:30 exor674 I know a lot of the stuff I have won't care
23:31 FunkEngine The only thing the UK can lord over the US power wise is those snazzy switched outlets, and fucking fuses in every plug!
23:31 DeKemp http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Perilex_box_diagram.svg
23:31 DeKemp lol
23:31 FunkEngine ok.
23:31 FunkEngine WHY is the earth lead keyed.
23:32 DeKemp at a captians blog chris din't know where the plastic parts of the prongs where for...
23:32 FunkEngine because you just KNOW some idiot is going to cut it off to make it fit.
23:32 DeKemp lead keyed?
23:32 exor674 sadly my UPS isn't a smart enough UPS to provide datalogging, I'd love it if it could so I could see WHY it freaked out
23:32 Seroster_ Yrouel, Why is america using imperial?
23:32 FunkEngine DeKemp: one way for 16a plugs and the other for 32a plugs.
23:33 exor674 and everything has an earth?
23:33 DeKemp 25a need other wires, and fuses
23:33 FunkEngine exor674: well anything 3 phase sure as shiyt does.
23:33 Yrouel Seroster_ it's different thay already have 220 in the hosue
23:33 DeKemp i think thats the reason for the indexed earth prong
23:33 Yrouel house*
23:33 FunkEngine DeKemp: yes but if you cut the prong OFF it fits.
23:34 FunkEngine so not only do you have a 32A device on a potentially undersized drop, you also have no earth! :3
23:34 DeKemp those plugs ar mainly used for stuff that never gets unplugged
23:35 FunkEngine which makes it all the more likely that some idjit changes flats and tries to plug his dryer into a range outlet or vice-versa, and because they're uncommon he just chops it off.
23:35 FunkEngine I sold appliances.
23:35 DeKemp why would you chop of a earth pin
23:35 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perilex
23:35 FunkEngine DeKemp: welcome to Amercia.
23:35 BotSteve Title: Perilex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:35 DeKemp lol
23:36 DeKemp dryers 9/10 use normal plugs
23:36 Seroster_ Yrouel, For stupid reasons, Yrouel
23:36 Seroster_ Anyway
23:36 Seroster_ Cya
23:36 Yrouel anyway so far the nicest/strangest common electrical plug I've seen is the autralian one, with the single cables exposed t
23:36 FunkEngine here in the US its always a special one.
23:36 DeKemp mainly electric ovens
23:36 FunkEngine had one guy who took two normal 110 line cords and plugged one into the outlet by the sink and one into the outlet in the hall to get his 220v.
23:36 FunkEngine I mean it worked but fuck me that's a hazard in so many ways.
23:37 Seroster_ We should have 500volt mains (p-n), 300hz, a thousand degrees in a circle and 100 minutes in an hour.
23:37 DeKemp do the use these in the us aswell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CEE-Stecker.jpg ?
23:37 BotSteve Title: File:CEE-Stecker.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:37 Yrouel SAA plug is called
23:37 FunkEngine I'm all for 300hz.
23:37 FunkEngine DeKemp: nope.
23:37 Seroster_ But
23:37 FunkEngine all of ours have flat blades of some configuration.
23:37 Seroster_ 100hz if we change to the 100second minute
23:38 exor674 Seroster_: nono, 5kv mains
23:38 Yrouel we have rounded contacts
23:38 Yrouel in many variants
23:38 exor674 that run at 1khz
23:38 Seroster_ exor674, No. Too high. Corona.
23:38 Yrouel but usually the biggest is backward compatible with the smallest
23:38 exor674 bah, you are no fun :P
23:38 DeKemp 5kv mains...
23:38 FunkEngine exor674: if you're going to go that far lets finish Nikola Tesla's work and use wireless HF power.
23:39 Seroster_ PLEASE DO!
23:39 exor674 ofc, don't the transmission lines run at insanely high voltages?
23:39 Yrouel yep
23:39 Seroster_ ... Not the tesla idea
23:39 FunkEngine exor674: yes, and go out on a foggy night where its pitch black and look at the wires.
23:39 Yrouel exor674 it's done to minimize losses
23:40 exor674 FunkEngine: don't have any overhead wires anywhere near me /o\
23:40 Seroster_ exor674, börk.
23:40 Seroster_ Goodnight
23:40 DeKemp http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko  SCHUKO!!!!
23:40 BotSteve Title: Schuko - Wikipedia
23:40 Yrouel DeKemp yeah
23:40 Yrouel we hate them you know?
23:40 DeKemp why
23:40 Yrouel I mean here in italy
23:40 DeKemp ah
23:41 Yrouel because most of our outlets
23:41 Yrouel aren't meant for those
23:41 FunkEngine I sometimes catch myself trying to figure out what country the porn clip I just downloaded was filmed in by the wall plugs. :3
23:41 DeKemp nerd
23:41 Yrouel so the tipical scene when an appliance have those plugs
23:41 Seroster_ SCHUUUKO!
23:41 Yrouel is "where is the adaptor" "where you put the adaptor"?
23:41 Seroster_ Yrouel, yeah, sure you hate shukos.... Because YOU ARE INCOMPATIBLE TO THE REST OF EUROPE
23:41 Yrouel it's the classical thing that you lose when you need it
23:42 Yrouel Seroster_ nope our plugs are compatible with shuck
23:42 Yrouel o
23:42 DeKemp half of europe uses schuko
23:42 DeKemp although the belgium version is strange
23:42 DeKemp it has an earh pin
23:42 FunkEngine at least here in america if we wire a 220v appliance to a 110 by accident or from lack of labeling it either doesn't work at all, works at half power, or spins at half speed backwards.
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23:43 DeKemp http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:French-power-socket.jpg crazy frensh
23:43 BotSteve Title: File:French-power-socket.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
23:43 DeKemp at leas it is compatiable with schucko
23:43 Yrouel DeKemp ehis for example will fit fine http://www.best-b2b.com/userimg/545/566-2/european-plug-482.jpg
23:43 Yrouel and is fairly typical
23:43 DeKemp whe have those her also
23:43 Yrouel some have three contacts
23:43 FunkEngine yes for double-isolated stuff.
23:43 Yrouel and will still work
23:43 DeKemp for charges andso
23:43 Yrouel the problematic ones are the bigger 3 contacts
23:43 DeKemp double insulate stuf
23:44 FunkEngine yeah, the letter D inside two boxes.
23:44 FunkEngine like a shop-vac.
23:44 DeKemp ?
23:44 FunkEngine doesn't need a ground, but its safe to suck up water with.
23:44 FunkEngine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_insulated#Class_II
23:44 BotSteve Title: Appliance classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:44 DeKemp double insulate arent alowd to have a earth connection here
23:44 FunkEngine basically the power switch is DPST and cuts both the live and neutral.
23:45 FunkEngine and there is no chassis ground.
23:45 FunkEngine which is fine by me.
23:46 FunkEngine being a tube equipment guy I know ALL of the joys of the fabled live chassis.
23:46 Yrouel DeKemp anyway the best outlet would be this http://www.internationalconfig.com/prod_shot/70100x45-IT.jpg
23:46 Seroster_ DeKemp, DoubleInsulated and Grounded are different plugs
23:46 DeKemp true
23:47 Yrouel compatible with most of the plugs around here
23:47 Seroster_ A DD device doesn't have the PE wire in the cable
23:47 DeKemp type c
23:47 Seroster_ All appliances using the Eurocontact are DD
23:47 DeKemp or uhmmm
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23:47 Yrouel I have one fortunately
23:47 Seroster_ Btw, how common are those outside sweden?   http://www.tryggdirekt.se/uploads/images/493/norwpro.jpg (Norwesco)
23:47 Yrouel with extra notches
23:47 Yrouel for UK plugs
23:47 Yrouel or USA I don't know
23:47 DeKemp wtf
23:48 DeKemp is that
23:48 DeKemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CEE_7-17_plug.jpg non ground schucko
23:48 BotSteve Title: File:CEE 7-17 plug.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:48 Yrouel yep
23:48 Yrouel typical around here
23:49 Seroster_ Dekemp, that is Norwesco...
23:49 Seroster_ One phase ovens use them
23:49 Seroster_ Like... My oven
23:49 Seroster_ WHY DO YOU HAVE A ONE PHASE OVEN WHEN YOU GOT THREE PHASES IN THE DAMN APARTMENT?!
23:49 DeKemp its just a cee variant
23:49 FunkEngine yarly
23:49 DeKemp lol
23:49 DeKemp whe only have 1 fase
23:50 DeKemp *phase
23:50 Seroster_ ... Yeah. Amateurs.
23:50 DeKemp there are 3 comming in the house but only 1 is fused
23:50 FunkEngine because that oven works everywhere, not just in 3 phase equipped buildings?
23:50 FunkEngine what are the other two unfused lines... doing?
23:50 Seroster_ One phase, half the proper mains voltage and the wrong freq.
23:50 DeKemp 1 phase is enough for most familys
23:50 DeKemp nothing
23:50 FunkEngine Seroster_: Can't be any worse than the Joys of 208v.
23:51 Seroster_ funk, There are no buildings in sweden (except for sheds) that are 1phase
23:51 Seroster_ funk, Half the copper.
23:51 FunkEngine DeKemp: are the other two phases... metered?
23:51 DeKemp no
23:51 Seroster_ Whaaaa....
23:51 FunkEngine HOW THE CRAP IS EVERY SWEDE NOT STEALING POWER?!
23:51 Seroster_ ...
23:51 DeKemp got a single phase meter
23:51 Seroster_ EVERY phase is metered.
23:52 FunkEngine Seroster_: only if the meter is set up for it.
23:52 DeKemp 35 a fused
23:52 FunkEngine 35a at what voltage?
23:52 DeKemp 230
23:52 DeKemp 50z
23:52 Seroster_ 400 phase-phase 230 to grpound
23:52 DeKemp *hz
23:52 DeKemp yes
23:52 FunkEngine cause, well, here in the US service starts at two 100A 120v lines (240v 100A) and goes up from there.
23:52 DeKemp rms
23:53 Seroster_ funk, In my breaker panel every third breaker is on phase one, every third after that is p2 etc.
23:53 DeKemp why would you need 100 amps?
23:53 FunkEngine I actually once saw a church that had, and I shit you not swear to Boden, and if you don't believe me I'll photo the pole pig if its still there next time I'm visiting my family, TWELVE HUNDRED AMP SERVICE at 220v.
23:53 DeKemp are you growin weed or something
23:53 FunkEngine It had electric heat.
23:53 FunkEngine DeKemp: How many kwh do you use in a month?
23:54 Seroster_ Wow funk
23:54 Seroster_ .c 220*1200
23:54 BotSteve 264 000
23:54 Yrouel FunkEngine what the hell they do in that church?
23:54 Seroster_ 250kw =)
23:54 DeKemp compered to similar householes. twice as much
23:54 Seroster_ Yrouel, Duplicating hell =)
23:54 DeKemp 5000kwh i thought
23:54 DeKemp last year
23:54 exor674 a pair of 100kw searchlights for signling god?
23:54 FunkEngine Yrouel: Aparently repenting is a serious task.
23:55 Seroster_ Yrouel, Churches are often made from stone, and they have really high ceilings where the heat goes and does no good whatsoever.
23:55 DeKemp gas heating?
23:55 FunkEngine DeKemp: for the whole year?
23:55 Yrouel so preying doesn't do much eh?
23:55 Yrouel they still need the good old electricity
23:55 Seroster_ Hey, they are churchgoers, do you really suspect them to be intelligent?
23:55 FunkEngine because I used 880kwh LAST MONTH.
23:55 DeKemp i think, but i'm not shure if it is actuly 5000
23:55 DeKemp what are you powering
23:55 FunkEngine The church we're talking about was also built in the early 80s when leccy was dirt cheap.
23:55 Seroster_ Yrouel, Disprove god in 4 words. Churches have lightning rods.   Goodnight.
23:56 DeKemp also our house is 10 years old and insulated like crazy
23:56 DeKemp but that would be the gas bill
23:56 DeKemp we only live with 2 people in this house
23:57 FunkEngine DeKemp: Electric hot water, electric dryer (I do maybe 4 loads of laundry a week, TOPS, and always use the sensor setting.) dishwasher gets run 2-3 times a week, heat pump for A/C and heat, and my main machine which is sucking down approx average of 390w/hr...
23:57 DeKemp avarage her is 3.500kwh
23:57 FunkEngine Oh speaking of funny religious things.
23:57 DeKemp most houses have gas heating
23:58 FunkEngine I saw a mennonite woman weilding a gas powered weed trimmer today.
23:58 FunkEngine I also have, and I'm going to go right the hell now and find it, a picture of an amish buggy at the deisel pump.
23:59 Yrouel uhm do amish try to convert other peopleso they became amish?
23:59 DeKemp doesnt suprise me funk that you are using a lot of power
23:59 DeKemp why electric heating?

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