Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-16

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00:10 wannabe1987 do dogs get headaches?
00:11 SparkyProjects They can get concussion, so i would suspect they can
00:13 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1761&S=1
00:13 BotSteve Title: 01 Pain and Its Effect on Your Dog’s Behavior - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company!
00:20 wannabe1987 egrsteve creamed me in the mouth
00:20 SparkyProjects #nsfw :P
00:21 wannabe1987 it was sweet :P
00:22 wannabe1987 anyway
00:22 wannabe1987 it was whipped cream in a can
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00:34 wannabe1987 hi Gekkoen
00:35 Gekkoen hello there
00:36 wannabe1987 how are you??
00:38 Gekkoen ju
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00:49 wannabe1987 hi Crispy
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01:10 * exor674 thwaps wannabe1987 <3
01:10 wannabe1987 thwap?
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01:19 Toastdude I'm on my new Mac!
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01:48 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu timed out again.
01:48 Monkeh|Lap The world is coming to an end.
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02:10 tonsofpcs guy is getting ready to walk across niagara falls: http://www.wgrz.com/news/specials/wallenda/video.aspx?storyid=168216
02:10 BotSteve Title: wgrz.com | Buffalo, NY
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02:25 HighMan If anyone would be so gracious as to just click this link. :P It's a contest for One Direction for my friend, thx!
02:25 HighMan Do this for my friend please
02:25 HighMan http://www.933flz.com/pages/meet-one-direction/index.php?linkid=2364
02:25 BotSteve Title: I Want To Win A Private Dressing Room Meet and Greet with One Direction! - 93.3 FLZ Tampa Bay Radio Station
02:29 Twiddlekins_ ye-es.. your "friend"
02:30 HighMan Bot me :P
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03:25 Hackbat YAY
03:25 Hackbat http://www.amazon.com/Hakko-FX-888-Soldering-Station/dp/B004M3U0VU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1339816961&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=hakko
03:25 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Hakko Soldering Station, FX-888: Home Improvement
03:25 Hackbat Gots me a REAL iron
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: And we all hate you for it.
03:27 Hackbat it's 80 dollars
03:27 Hackbat Not bad for a Hakko
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Normal price in the US.
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Everyone else pays three times as much for the same thing with a different winding on the transformer.
04:08 BatSteve This channel has moved: irc.thegeekgroup.org #thegeekgroup.  Enjoy your ops! [This channel is publicly logged: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 ]
04:08 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now This channel has moved: irc.thegeekgroup.org #thegeekgroup.  Enjoy your ops! [This channel is publicly logged: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 ]
04:08 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-16
04:08 BatSteve there we go
04:09 wannabe1987 not that anyone *looks* at the topic....
04:09 tehdark45 it pops up
04:09 tehdark45 :P
04:11 wannabe1987 wtf BatSteve
04:11 BatSteve :]
04:11 tehdark45 lol
04:11 BatSteve it's not the official channel anymore
04:11 BatSteve we can finally see what would happen.
04:11 tehdark45 PANDMONIUM!
04:11 Thermoelectric Man, and I won't even be here for the next 24 hours to see what happens. Boo.
04:12 devast8a ^_^
04:12 BotSteve everyone: I have the following messages for you:
04:12 BotSteve At 25 Dec 14:26Z, Roadran422 asked me to tell everyone Merry Christmas!
04:12 wannabe1987 yay zozo's home
04:13 BatSteve my bet:  either nothing much happens, or everything awesome happens
04:13 Thermoelectric I'm going to guess most will stay sensible, though a few *cough* devast8a *cough* will misbehave.
04:14 devast8a Aw ;__;
04:14 tehdark45 wannabe1987 will do everything bad
04:14 tehdark45 :P
04:14 wannabe1987 i already do....actually, no, i'm an actual op, so i can't
04:14 tehdark45 lol
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05:36 Twiddlekins_ surprisingly civil all things concerned :P
05:43 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN39H1Eb-6I&amp;feature=plcp
05:43 BotSteve Title: Open Letter to the Universe - YouTube
05:43 Sgt_Lemming right...
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07:03 Experimentonomen g'mornin noobz, nerdz, geekz & peepz
07:04 Experimentonomen watz w all teh ops ?
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07:24 Electricguy morning
07:26 Experimentonomen guten morgen
07:43 * Experimentonomen yawns a bit as he tries to wake up
07:52 * einball slaps Experimentonomen to wake him up
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08:07 Electricguy LOL! check to 2 top comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlkq-uRWaJY&amp;feature=g-u-u
08:07 BotSteve Title: HandTrux Construction Digging Tool from ThinkGeek - YouTube
08:16 Experimentonomen g'morning Chipguy
08:16 Chipguy morning
08:24 Experimentonomen man this job is wearing me out, jusat looking at my projects just makes me wanna goto bed :/
08:27 Electricguy erm.. why the heck are there 58 OPs in this channel? o_O
08:31 Experimentonomen i wonder too
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08:34 Chipguy yeah
08:34 Chipguy and why i am not one of them ?
08:34 Electricguy im not on this computer either
08:35 Electricguy muast have been done when we were logged off
08:35 Chipguy yeah
08:35 Chipguy 4 hours 29 minutes ago
08:35 Chipguy everyone in here was put on +O
08:35 * Experimentonomen is playing with a remix of startrek voyager
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09:00 Coderjoe they're taking the hobbits to isengard
09:01 Coderjoe i got a jar a dirt
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09:05 Electricguy best illustration ever! :D
09:16 einball Electricguy: don't ask :D
09:16 einball Electricguy: BatSteve's fault
09:16 Electricguy too late. i already did... :)
09:17 einball 06:11 <@BatSteve> it's not the official channel anymore
09:18 Electricguy erm= like a mass OP would make people move over to the new channel faster?
09:18 Electricguy ?*
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09:18 einball dunno
09:18 einball I'll not follow
09:18 Electricguy i'm already there.. but i really don't see the point of having a dedicated TGG server...
09:21 einball I really don't want another server to be on
09:21 Electricguy i think it works just fine here.. XD
09:22 einball jup
09:25 * Experimentonomen hooked us some more speakers
09:29 FunkEngine_AFK oooh, my packages may arrive today...  off to work for now though!
09:45 * Experimentonomen does a party rig test run
09:51 Experimentonomen if i had the money, i'd drag home enuf speakers from work to stack two towers floor to ceiling high and wire up all amps i currently have in operational condition
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09:55 Experimentonomen wb Chipguy
09:55 Chipguy lol
09:59 * Experimentonomen uploads 16 minutes of just jamming out
10:21 Coderjoe O_o
10:23 Coderjoe seems a bit NIH
10:24 Coderjoe before my hard drive crash, I was already in way too many channels on way too many networks
10:24 Coderjoe and now it is getting that way yet again
10:25 Coderjoe I'm already on 6 networks again
10:26 Coderjoe and at some point I'll likely go "oh, I forgot about that one" and join yet another
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10:31 einball Coderjoe: 4 .. but as i said: I'll not follow
10:55 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U1yUqxIWbA
10:55 BotSteve Title: Party rig test run - YouTube
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11:11 mashpriborintorg hiya
11:12 mashpriborintorg ok I have a old UPS here, Powerware 9120
11:13 mashpriborintorg I see a bunch of gigormous copper chokes in it :p
11:13 Experimentonomen does it work ? replace rthe batteries and put it to use or sell it
11:13 Experimentonomen doesent woek ? scrap it for parts
11:13 mashpriborintorg not a small ups, 8 battery packs
11:14 mashpriborintorg batteries are borked, it has been in storage for 10 years
11:14 mashpriborintorg such a battery must be 20-25 euros each... x8....
11:15 Experimentonomen 7Ah SLA ?
11:15 mashpriborintorg and the ups is not officially mine yet :p
11:16 mashpriborintorg batteries are Yuasa REW45-12
11:17 * Electricguy noms on some leftover pizza
11:22 mashpriborintorg and in a few days I may get a whole bunch of stuff from work: at least 2 pcs, 2 crts, 2 old dell servers, boxes of old hds, wires and various things
11:25 mashpriborintorg most of it will be for scrap, but I am interested with the old serveurs, dual processors, raid, good for training purpose
11:37 einball POSIX--
11:45 einball hmm
11:46 Experimentonomen whats with all the ops  anyhow ?
11:46 einball this chanel is no longer  the officialntg chan
11:46 einball tgg chan
12:00 Electricguy i still don't get the point of OPing everybody..
12:05 Experimentonomen too bad my irc client doesent support marking multiple ppl, or i could have deopped everyone
12:07 mashpriborintorg just joined the new official one
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13:04 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon eadthem
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14:44 Experimentonomen cprossu!!!
14:45 Experimentonomen i cannot find Equivalent exchange version 1.4.6.0 anywhere, only older version and the newest that is 1.4.6.1
14:46 ElectricMan Heh, whats the idea of chaning to another IRC server?
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14:47 mashpriborintorg I found a new website with lots of eastern devices shown :p http://regimuszereklhanzi.5mp.eu/web.php?a=regimuszereklhanzi&amp;o=V1aOKKnYKA
14:47 BotSteve Title: TR-4805 EMG-1575
14:48 * BitViper yawns, stretches, farts
14:48 Experimentonomen keep your farts to yourself, BitViper :P
14:48 Experimentonomen =P
14:49 BitViper Experimentonomen : but i was taught to share =P
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14:52 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon sparky
14:52 SparkyProjects Hi
14:53 HighMan "Charges your PC/MP3 wihle playing music" XD
14:53 Cprossu *yawns*
14:53 Cprossu what's up?
14:53 BitViper g'moonin Cprossu
14:53 HighMan Charging my PC while playing music lolol
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15:34 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
15:35 Monkeh Cprossu: IE7 tax.
15:38 wannabe1987 ElectricMan: we are moving to a nother channel because tgg wants control of the channel in house
16:10 Electricguy One of us! One of us!
16:10 Electricguy :P
16:11 * wannabe1987 assimilates Electricguy
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16:18 Electricguy Experimentonomen, do you know who have been on the server today? cause now when i joined in my mob gate and all my doors were open and there is some stuff missing in my chests..
16:18 Electricguy mastah is on now and he claims that it wasn't him.. but it's not the first time he fucks up my stuff and claims it's not him...
16:24 wannabe1987 time to ge ready for work :/
16:24 wannabe1987 they keep cutting my hours!
16:25 BitViper welcome 2 todays workplace wannabe1987
16:26 Electricguy yeah it's like that almost everywhere
16:26 wannabe1987 its cuz my client is taking advantage of us...making us do yardwork and moving furniture when thats not our job
16:31 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, i work at the furniture department in a store as my new day job :P
16:32 wannabe1987 cool
16:32 wannabe1987 congrats on the job
16:33 Experimentonomen it wears me down to the point where i get discouraged to work on my own projects during the weekends though
16:34 wannabe1987 all i can say to that is "welcome to adult life" :P
16:34 Experimentonomen and when i come home in the evening, my feet hurt bad enuf that i can barely stand up
16:34 wannabe1987 all i can say to that is "welcome to adult life" :P
16:34 wannabe1987 also i must leave, its more than 1/2 past the hour
16:38 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Time to get some more appropriate footwear.
16:39 Experimentonomen it may also be just that im simply not used to be standing up most of the day
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16:53 Yrouel hi
16:53 BotSteve yrouel: I have the following messages for you:
16:53 BotSteve At 13 Jun 01:13Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell yrouel to PM me re: server moving
17:02 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon/evenin yr
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17:38 * Electricguy drools at the awesome .gif animations! http://webking.com/
17:38 BotSteve Title: Las Vegas Web Designer and Web Site Marketing by Web King, WebKing.com Web King Internet Services, LLC, a computer service company, Las Vegas, Nevada
17:38 Electricguy XD
17:38 Yrouel anyone with experience on repurposing fridge compressors?
17:38 Yrouel I'm building an air compressor
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17:41 eadthem cool  i have op
17:41 Electricguy we all do.. XD
17:41 Monkeh No you don't
17:41 Electricguy for some reason.. :P
17:42 eadthem any sugestiosn on the best place to get a cheep UPS  it only needs to run 50W of power   say in the 30-40$ range
17:42 Monkeh Ebay
17:42 Electricguy >_>
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17:42 Monkeh Hah.
17:42 Electricguy :3
17:43 Electricguy *hugs Monkeh for freeing me from the shit*
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18:14 Leepod I swear I'm never having kids. If I have a kid it's going to be a boy
18:20 Electricguy you know, if you are unlucky your genes may be so you can only get girls.. :P
18:25 Leepod That would suck
18:25 Electricguy yeah
18:25 Electricguy well.. i don't see why.. cause we need to raise more geek girls on this planet.. XD
18:25 Leepod Im a sexist bastard and will admit it
18:26 Leepod I want a geek boy that likes to hunt
18:27 Electricguy so you are going to disappointed and hate him if he get other interests?
18:27 Leepod No
18:28 Leepod As long as he doesn't drink, do drugs, or knock up a girl I'll love him
18:33 Sasha__ Hai
18:33 Sasha__ Anyone know a good server os? something like a dl/file server with local networking capabilities, with hot swappable hdd/ssd's?
18:34 Yrouel Sasha__ if you need something for storage
18:34 Yrouel take a look at freenas
18:34 Sasha__ yup
18:34 Yrouel is based on freebsd
18:35 Electricguy this may sound werid.. but for a home server, Win XP Pro SP3.. it works better than you might think :P
18:35 Electricguy my XP server have been running without a single glitcg for over 2 years
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18:37 Electricguy glitch*
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18:40 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Well, yes, that's because it's never exposed to any loading or security threat.
18:40 Electricguy exactly :)
18:41 Electricguy like any home server
18:41 Monkeh|Lap Not like any home server.
18:41 Monkeh|Lap Like most, perhaps.
18:41 Electricguy well yeah. for me it works just fine
18:41 Monkeh|Lap I also imagine there are no significant data integrity requirements. :P
18:42 Electricguy not really.. :)
18:42 tonsofpcs XP can work fine under relatively high load.
18:42 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: So long as you don't want an accurate clock
18:42 tonsofpcs Mind you, I prefer NT4 or Server 2003 or Server 2008 R2.....
18:42 Electricguy yeah server 2003 is decent too
18:42 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I've only had one issue with an XP machine and its clock in a critical environment and that was due to a processor failure.
18:43 tonsofpcs (Ever seen $day+1 MINUS time instead of $day PLUS time? :D)
18:43 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I've never had a Windows box maintain an accurate time under load (CPU, GPU, I/O, or all of the above)
18:43 Electricguy yeah i can't notice any clock drifting in XP.. the RTC is there and doing it's thing like on any OS...
18:43 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: PC RTCs are horribly inaccurate.
18:43 Monkeh|Lap The clock code is not an RTC.
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18:44 Monkeh|Lap And Windows does not use the RTC once booted (nor do other OSes)
18:44 Electricguy well.. who gives a damn shit? :P if you want an accurate clock, get a rubidium frequencey standard or a GPS clock receiver with a proper BNC connector for the clock out..
18:44 Electricguy frequency*
18:44 tonsofpcs Electricguy: BNC?  We use TNC and/or an embedded decoder and 232 over Dsub9....
18:45 Monkeh|Lap I give a damn shit, and I use NTP on other machines to maintain a reasonably accurate clock even under load.
18:45 Electricguy huh.. i have only seen with BNC
18:45 Electricguy Monkeh|Lap, congratz to you! :) want a medal?
18:45 Monkeh|Lap Windows does not provide a mechanism to use NTP except once daily, which is quite insufficient.
18:45 tonsofpcs the 10pps out of the reference board is on BNC on all of them of course
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18:45 Electricguy for an average workstation or a simple home server it's really no point with a DAMN ACCURATE clock..
18:45 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: No, do you want one for taking a valid criticism of an OS and going 'nobody cares!'
18:46 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: the builtin sntp sync can be configured for hourly (by tweaking registry) iirc.
18:46 tonsofpcs you could also use a real ntp client/server.
18:46 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Interesting, I may look into that. Awkward, though.
18:46 Electricguy Monkeh|Lap, yeah, sure! hand it over! =)
18:46 tonsofpcs we use 'automachron' on our automation 'workstations' (each is really a slaved server), not sure what we use on the 'server'.
18:46 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Perhaps not 'damn accurate', but I'd prefer not to lose several minutes in a day.
18:47 Electricguy i haven't lost several minutes in approx 3 years...
18:47 Electricguy if your regular computer clock drifts THAT much, something is seriously wrong..
18:47 tonsofpcs i've actually had more problems with the ntp server (debian iirc) that provides time to the Windows machine than the Windows machine's clock.
18:47 Monkeh|Lap Try actually loading it for more than a few seconds at a time.
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18:48 tonsofpcs Electricguy: there's some systems that do.  It happens.  I have one around here somewhere that can lose an hour a day.
18:48 Electricguy weird
18:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Is that RTC or the OS?
18:48 Electricguy then i may be lucky.. cause i have never had that problem
18:48 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: it happens regardless of OS. something wrong with the system timing.
18:48 Monkeh|Lap Or you just never noticed because you don't have a reliable time source to compare to
18:48 tonsofpcs (or maybe it gained an hour a day?)
18:49 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Interesting, CPU errata for that might be fun to read.
18:49 Monkeh|Lap Is it an x86 box?
18:49 tonsofpcs it is.  I forget which one though so I can't give more detail than that.
18:49 * Electricguy buys a GPS clock receiver from ebay to keep track on his bowel movements :3
18:49 Monkeh|Lap Hmm.
18:49 tonsofpcs (had debian and some windows [XP probably] on it)
18:50 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Your use-cases don't involve maintaining accurate time across multiple machines. Good for you.
18:50 tonsofpcs oh, I know which one it was.  I don't actually have it anymore.  It was the Dell notebook that 'exploded' at trade shows.
18:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Could be a glitch in the power saving modes. AMD have had a few of those.
18:50 tonsofpcs Pentium 4
18:50 Monkeh|Lap Oh, god.
18:50 Monkeh|Lap I'd bet money on thermal throttling problems :P
18:50 tonsofpcs heh
18:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: As for Debian, that's Debian for you.
18:51 Monkeh|Lap My own ntpd setup has never caused an issue.
18:51 Monkeh|Lap Windows has problems cooperating with it sometimes, though. But that's because Microsoft don't bother with implementing standards correctly.
18:51 Electricguy i hope you are not adjusting the clocks over ethernet. Cause you are going to get several ms time dealy.
18:51 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: well, it wasn't a debian issue, it was an upstream issue.  the machine builds its clock from a reference to L-band frequencies provided by an LNB receiving C-band ....
18:52 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Look up NTP, please.
18:52 Electricguy nah. i really don't have any interest in it.. :P
18:52 tonsofpcs but yea, I've had machines over the years that had rock-solid clocks (within a second per month, easily) and machines that drifted so horribly that ntpd had to run once every 20 minutes for them to be minute-accurate
18:52 tonsofpcs ntp != sntp.
18:52 Monkeh|Lap And no, latency on my network does not run into the milliseconds.
18:52 Electricguy then LOAD IT DOWN MOAR! :3
18:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Vista and above supposedly include a compliant NTP implementation. I have yet to see evidence of it working correctly.
18:53 tonsofpcs hmm... is WWVB stratum 0 or stratum 1?
18:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Plus, they refuse to even guarantee 1 second accuracy with it. Quality right there.
18:53 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: my 2008 R2 box keeps great time on a network where the XP clocks drift.  Not sure if it's related to the ntp implementation or not (they aren't actively pointed at an ntpd but there is one on the segment)
18:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Radio clocks are supposedly stratum 0.
18:55 Monkeh|Lap But I treat that a bit loosely, personally.
18:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: so my wWVB receiver-based clock is stratum 0 or stratum 1 then?
18:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's syncing off a stratum 0 source, that makes it stratum 1.
18:56 tonsofpcs ok, so I have at least four independently-referenced (kinda) stratum 1 systems actively operating at work (not counting systems at non-local sites; the number then would go up quite a bit)....
18:57 Monkeh|Lap I operate off a mixture of stratum 2 and 3 servers, including one operated by my ISP
18:57 tonsofpcs (three are GPS referenced but have their own antennas, receivers, and decode boards)
18:58 Electricguy when 47 year old ladies write to you on chatsites you know you are on the weird part of the net again.. XD
18:58 Monkeh|Lap Currently all stratum 2 it seems.
18:59 tonsofpcs I also have four same-reference stratum 2 servers that are not referenced to my stratum 1 servers (and a bunch of computers that are NTP-based stratum 2 that I don't care to count)
18:59 tonsofpcs mind you, those four stratum 2 servers are purposefully offset (delayed).
19:00 tonsofpcs I really wish we could operate everything on one clock... we can't.
19:01 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: fyi, with latency of 15-30ms outside my network, I maintain an offset of at most 5ms. NTP is very, very good at what it's specifically designed to do.
19:01 tonsofpcs oh and, in theory, we're providing a stratum 3 for a 50x100 mile region (roughly) over RF.... (with a known delay)
19:01 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Would be nice, but you can use NTP to average across the lot of them and that's close enough (mostly. :)
19:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: well, it isn't ;)
19:02 tonsofpcs it's an issue with the content that we acquire at timely points.
19:02 Monkeh|Lap I said mostly. Some things are a bit more picky. :P
19:03 tonsofpcs some satellite content providers uplink content such that the hit times (when things start) are at the top of the hour at the downlink.  Some uplink content so that the hit times are at the top of the hour at the uplink.  We have two major content providers that we use... guess what they do differently ;)
19:04 Monkeh|Lap I'm mostly content if every one of my systems is within 100ms. They achieve that with room (in excess of 90ms of it) to spare, except when Windows is around
19:05 Monkeh|Lap One of these days I'm going to get a GPS timesource just because.
19:05 tonsofpcs my video systems like to be within 30ns.... I think I can get away with around 15ms.... Windows can handle it just time so long as you don't use the system clock.
19:05 tonsofpcs *fine
19:05 Monkeh|Lap Just need one to show up affordably on ebay and I'll be borrowing a ladder
19:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah, that's far more specific than general computer stuff. ;)
19:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: self-contained module with serial output or do you want one that ties to a clock board?
19:07 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Self-contained. Garmin do a suitable unit, just got to wait for them to show up on ebay.
19:07 Monkeh|Lap They pop up in batches
19:07 Monkeh|Lap (or did, I think they're out of manufacture now)
19:07 tonsofpcs there's much cheaper ones out there.  I can dig in mailing list histories to find some...
19:07 Monkeh|Lap If they're suitable for external mounting, go for it
19:07 tonsofpcs (with good chipsets too)
19:07 Monkeh|Lap I don't want to mess with enclosures
19:07 tonsofpcs yea, they're all in those little plastic domes
19:07 Monkeh|Lap The Garmin ones are ready to go
19:08 tonsofpcs and they usually come with a piece of threaded UV-resist PVC (or similar) to cover the cable connection
19:09 Monkeh|Lap I'll come through the wall right next to the unit anyway
19:09 Monkeh|Lap Protected from direct sunlight in that position for all but around 20 minutes a day
19:10 tonsofpcs oo, this one is interesting (but probably a bit costly) $1500 is the guessed price: http://www.jackson-labs.com/index.php/products/csac
19:10 BotSteve Title: Jackson Labs Technologies, Inc. | CSAC
19:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I was thinking more like $25. :P
19:11 tonsofpcs yea, I know
19:11 tonsofpcs that's just the first one I came across in the history ;)
19:13 tonsofpcs trimble thundebolt with firmware v3.0 (there's some importance to this for clock use, apparently)
19:13 tonsofpcs *thunderbolt
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19:14 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Too pricy; next.
19:16 tonsofpcs they apparently show up on ebay for $120-$150 for complete kits...
19:17 tonsofpcs (new they cost at least tenfold that)
19:17 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, I've been able to get GPS 18 LVCs for <£30 several times.
19:17 Monkeh|Lap So again, too pricy. :P
19:17 tonsofpcs well, you could just get a USB GPS chipset for $5-9 from D-X, but it probably won't be good for timing...
19:17 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, that's why I'm looking at the Garmin
19:18 Monkeh|Lap I _know_ it's suitable.
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19:22 tonsofpcs "Oncore UT+ GPS Receiver" is appatently good and cheap.  I think it's just a 1pps reference though...
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19:23 tonsofpcs people are tying them into small embedded single-board computers to make what appear to be $200 [or so] NTPds
19:24 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Has 100PPS.
19:25 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's a Motorola unit apparently.
19:25 tonsofpcs yes, it appears to be 1pps and 100pps
19:25 tonsofpcs http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/
19:25 BotSteve Title: The World's Most Accurate NTP Server Hardware?
19:25 tonsofpcs http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/articles/howto/Building_S1_NTP_Server_1.html
19:25 BotSteve Title: EXTREME Overclocking - Building a Stratum-1 GPS Based NTP Server with a Soekris net4501 Article - Page: 1 - Tweaking PC Hardware To The Max
19:25 Monkeh|Lap heh, Soekris.
19:25 Monkeh|Lap Neat stuff, shame about the price
19:25 tonsofpcs $15 for a UT+ from ebay, $150 for a soekris board...
19:27 Monkeh|Lap Don't these require housings and antennas?
19:27 tonsofpcs not sure.  didn't dig that far.
19:27 Electricguy fun fact; this conversation started with Yrouel asking about a server OS
19:28 tonsofpcs fun fact: TIME!
19:28 Monkeh|Lap Welcome to the internet
19:28 tonsofpcs also, sasha__ was the one asking.
19:28 tonsofpcs Yrouel was asking about fridge compressors.
19:28 Electricguy ahh, yeah
19:29 Electricguy same shit, different name! :D
19:29 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It requires an active antenna.
19:30 tonsofpcs eww
19:30 tonsofpcs still cheaper than any of mine :-p
19:30 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Eurgh, MCX.
19:31 tonsofpcs actually, our split antenna/receiver ones are relatively cheap but I haven't found the make on them yet...
19:31 tonsofpcs MCX?
19:31 Monkeh|Lap RF connector.
19:31 Monkeh|Lap I've had disagreements with MMCX connectors, I can't imagine I'd enjoy MCX any more.
19:33 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: They're the connectors Apple used for the sole purpose of being incompatible.
19:34 tonsofpcs that doesn't narrow it down much :-p
19:34 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/MCX_Plug.jpg
19:36 tonsofpcs looks fun
19:36 tonsofpcs almost like a RP-SMB but a slightly different scale
19:36 Electricguy my Orinoco Gold card use one of those.. :P
19:36 Electricguy tiny little plug
19:37 Electricguy it surely works. but the mechanical stability isn't all that great :P
19:37 tonsofpcs I know it's been posted and I know i've been inside one of the boxes to see it but I can't seem to find the make/model of the GPSDO we have...
19:38 Monkeh|Lap At least it's not SMA
19:38 Monkeh|Lap Better known as that fiddly, cheap connector everyone hates.
19:38 tonsofpcs at least it's not F.
19:38 Electricguy SMA got more mechanical stability
19:38 Electricguy F is hovrrible XD
19:38 Electricguy N is nice though :P
19:38 Monkeh|Lap There are worse things than F.
19:38 Electricguy a BNC with a lot more shielding and metter mechanical construction
19:38 Monkeh|Lap And yes, N is quite agreeable.
19:38 Monkeh|Lap TNC, thank you
19:39 tonsofpcs (the system has a GPS antenna outside, TNC connections to a card inside that takes it and generates 10pps and serial data -- card is bolted inside the case of a 1U PC system so it's hard for me to get to)
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19:39 Electricguy nothing wrong with BNC.. :P
19:39 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: No, but BNC is a bayonet connector. N is threaded, so it's closer to TNC than BNC. :P
19:40 Electricguy but the internal stuff is identical.. :P
19:40 Electricguy TNC is a BNC with thread lock.. :P
19:40 tonsofpcs PL259/SO239 ? :)
19:40 Electricguy LOL! XD
19:40 Electricguy well, they are ok for shortwave stuff :)
19:40 tonsofpcs hey, it could be a 'motorola plug'
19:40 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: A BNC specced to much higher frequencies. :P
19:40 Electricguy that too
19:41 Electricguy motorola plug sounds familiar.. isn't that a BNC with no lock? just a metal sleeve that slides over? for like module bacplane use and such..
19:42 tonsofpcs no
19:42 Electricguy cause i have had some Motorola equipment with such plugs
19:42 Electricguy mkay
19:42 tonsofpcs it's like an RCA with an extra long center pin and a long shield connection, kinda like a power connector that apple used on some of their laptops...
19:42 tonsofpcs (at least, the one I'm thinking of is)
19:43 Monkeh|Lap ew.
19:43 Electricguy OH! yeah i got a few of those:P
19:43 Monkeh|Lap Oh, THOSE, yeah
19:43 Monkeh|Lap Ew.
19:43 Electricguy were fairly common on early 70's smaller ham radio rigs
19:43 Electricguy horrible little things.. XD
19:43 tonsofpcs ya
19:44 Monkeh|Lap Well
19:44 Monkeh|Lap I'm going to need to one-up you
19:44 Electricguy i use N for the "calibration" output on my FM transmitter
19:44 Monkeh|Lap With the proud product of Belling & Lee Ltd: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/IEC_169-2.jpg
19:45 tonsofpcs Electricguy: 'calibration' output? is that just a sample out?
19:45 Electricguy basically a pickup wire that runs along the Rf feeder in the box.. jacks straight to my spectrum analyzer
19:45 tonsofpcs yea.  All of our saample ports are BNCs... exceept maybe in the old 20kW RCA
19:45 Electricguy yeah basically a jack that takes up a wee bit of the RF signal
19:45 Electricguy i use BNC for the main antenna out.. :P
19:45 Electricguy simply because my roof antenna already had BNC.. lol
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19:46 tonsofpcs erm... how many milliwatts?
19:47 Electricguy 100
19:47 Electricguy :P
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19:47 tonsofpcs 0.1 W then?
19:47 Electricguy ok, got a key switch to switch between 10 and 100mW
19:47 tonsofpcs heh
19:47 Electricguy yepp. .1Watt
19:48 tonsofpcs and what kind of line is run from the tx to the antenna?
19:48 Chipguy meowpounce
19:48 Electricguy atm it's a proper teflon coax.. XD
19:48 tonsofpcs 'proper teflon coax'?
19:48 Chipguy the power drill ran out of juice
19:49 Electricguy there is a approx 2mm long trace that got exposed RF on it. thats where the pickup is located
19:49 Chipguy so we had to stop
19:49 Chipguy hehe
19:49 Electricguy yeah.. a coax instead of the 20 guage wire i had before.. :P
19:49 tonsofpcs *facepalm*
19:49 tonsofpcs what ttype of coax?
19:49 Electricguy something i took from a NMT phone
19:49 Electricguy so it's at least good for 450MHz
19:49 tonsofpcs does it say on the sheath what it is?
19:50 Electricguy i'm sure it does. but i'm not going to open the transmitter now just to check it..
19:50 tonsofpcs from the transmitter to the antenna....
19:50 Electricguy the transmitter is built in a box from one of these.. :P http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sennheiser_mikroport_empfaenger_em_1_2.html
19:50 BotSteve Title: Mikroport-Empfänger EM 1008 Receiver-C Sennheiser Electronic
19:50 tonsofpcs right, but coax has a velocity (of propogation) factor, loss (per distance) factor, shield coverage, etc....
19:50 Electricguy oh! got some low loss RG58
19:50 * Monkeh|Lap thinks he'll bring a few of those damned connectors to the states with him to torture people with
19:51 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: which connectors? belling lee?
19:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yup.
19:51 tonsofpcs we have them on some commercially available FM radios
19:51 Monkeh|Lap Erk
19:51 Monkeh|Lap My condolences
19:51 tonsofpcs although it seems more of those manufacturers are moving to snap-on (threadless) Fs
19:52 Monkeh|Lap I'd rather a threadless F than a BL
19:52 Electricguy i need to change the driver on my vertical dipole on the roof though.. it's a wee bit out of tune
19:52 tonsofpcs people that have them tend not to know that they have them of course, since (if they even buy one) they buy the table radio and just plug in the antenna it comes with and forget about it
19:52 Monkeh|Lap At least for radio usage it's not a problem
19:52 Monkeh|Lap It's a royal pain for modern TV
19:53 tonsofpcs would you prefer having to hold the cable straight while you twist the collet on the F?
19:53 Monkeh|Lap I do that with F connectors already?
19:53 Electricguy F connectors are horrible! O_O
19:53 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: They're still better than BL.
19:54 tonsofpcs Electricguy: what? you don't like a center conductor that moves around on its own? :-p
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19:54 Monkeh|Lap Easier to fit, more reliable, and actually impedance matched.
19:54 Electricguy whats a BL connector?
19:54 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/IEC_169-2.jpg
19:54 Monkeh|Lap Belling-Lee.
19:54 Monkeh|Lap Pile of crap.
19:54 Electricguy oh!
19:54 tonsofpcs Electricguy: UK/euro TV aerial
19:54 Electricguy well, F IS worse.. :P
19:54 Monkeh|Lap Oh, and they're made out of aluminium and crossthread on assembly easily.
19:54 Electricguy cause the BL at least got a proper center pin..
19:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Pretty much UK specific.
19:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I had a french VCR with belling-lee connectors where I used to work
19:55 tonsofpcs well, kinda...
19:55 Monkeh|Lap Again, my condolences.
19:56 tonsofpcs it came with a belling-lee male (for output) and a F-female (for input) and two belling-lee female to F- adapters (one male, one female) iirc.
19:56 tonsofpcs or something equally strange.
19:56 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Trust me, center pin or no, the connector does not perform.
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19:56 DeKemp HI HI
19:57 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: well, I'm not a fan of the lack-of-locking but the center-pin actually existing is nice.
19:57 Electricguy the F doesn't either... the cable connector use to strech out the jacks.. just brilliant! -,-
19:57 tonsofpcs Electricguy: well, there are actually well-made F sockets, just not on any consumer equipment...
19:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I don't mind F that much. It's a small pain, but at least it works right.
19:58 Electricguy mkay. i have only seen shitty F jacks then..
19:58 tonsofpcs like the center conductor on the socket is supposed to be two pieces of wire sprung in >< but most cheap ones just have wire essentially running up the side
19:58 DeKemp amd f socket :P
19:58 Monkeh|Lap I've seen good and bad F sockets.
19:58 DeKemp trolol
19:58 Monkeh|Lap The bad ones are seen on cheap consumer junk (see: Sky boxes)
19:58 Electricguy still.. a conenctor with a proper mechanical lock is good.. :P
19:59 Electricguy connector*
19:59 DeKemp bnc :D
19:59 tonsofpcs DeKemp: let me point out how silly it is for you to do that when 95% of the room has a @
19:59 DeKemp :P
19:59 DeKemp wtf
19:59 Monkeh|Lap ;P
19:59 tonsofpcs Electricguy: I'm a fan of taking everything that has an F-connector on the chassis and buying a BNC-to-F adapter for it
19:59 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: :D
19:59 Electricguy DeKemp, N or 7/16 DIN! :D
19:59 DeKemp wtf everybody is @
19:59 DeKemp dafuq
20:00 tonsofpcs Electricguy: 1-5/8" EIA :D
20:00 Electricguy you can pretty much fit a SMA into the middle pin hole in a 7/16 DIn jack.. :P
20:00 tonsofpcs (flanged)
20:00 Electricguy lol :P
20:00 Monkeh|Lap And yes, torqing a BNC adapter onto an F socket is not a bad idea at all.
20:00 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: well, you lose 1dB....
20:00 Monkeh|Lap BNCs are a minor pain in the butt to fit, mind you.
20:01 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You lose more to badly terminated F connectors (ie. oxidation)
20:01 Monkeh|Lap Mine don't do that, but I actually take a little time to do them decently.
20:01 Electricguy if it's a PITA to fit a BNC you are doing it wrong :P
20:01 tonsofpcs not really. buy an appropriate crimp kit and connectors for your cable
20:01 Monkeh|Lap There's the problem
20:01 Monkeh|Lap Crimp kit.
20:02 Electricguy dude.. you can get a working crimp kit for about 25 bucks XD
20:02 Monkeh|Lap (and I'm not a crimping fan anyway)
20:02 tonsofpcs the only BNCs that I've had problems with were ultraultraminiature solder-center and RG-6 screw-on
20:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: compression kit then?
20:02 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Dude, you may have 25 bucks to spend on things you don't use often.
20:02 Monkeh|Lap Not everyone does.
20:02 DeKemp http://www.gelderlander.nl/multimedia/archive/02051/DG_15271816_152718_2051387a.JPG  cables :P
20:02 Electricguy no need to spend it if you are a member of the local ham radio club.. :D
20:03 Monkeh|Lap I'm not.
20:03 Monkeh|Lap I'm not even aware of one near here.
20:03 Electricguy become one then.. :P
20:03 tonsofpcs btw, worst connector ever: twist-on F.
20:03 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Why? I don't do radio.
20:03 DeKemp http://www.oogtv.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/BrandZendmastTorenHoogerSmilde-490x311.jpg there is your problem
20:03 Monkeh|Lap It holds no interest beyond the technical aspect. I have no desire to play around with expensive things with no goal.
20:03 tonsofpcs DeKemp: yea, lots of copper there.
20:04 Electricguy dekemp, we got a piece (about 20cm long) of Helix coax at the radio club.. it's 8" in diameter.. Xd there are plastic support bars inside to hold the middle connector :P
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20:04 DeKemp lol
20:04 Electricguy and it's usually filled with nitrogen gas to keep moisture out
20:04 tonsofpcs teflon.
20:04 Electricguy just hacing it as a display piece :P
20:04 DeKemp those cables aren solid? the conductors?
20:04 DeKemp waveguids or how are they called
20:04 Electricguy the middle connector is a about 4cm diameter copper pipe.. XD
20:04 tonsofpcs no, heliax.
20:04 tonsofpcs waveguide is different.
20:04 tonsofpcs hard-line is different
20:05 Electricguy ah, heliax is the correct name.. i knew helix sounded weird :P
20:05 tonsofpcs 'semi-rigid heliax' is air-dielectric with internal supports.
20:05 tonsofpcs if the center is a copper pipe, it's hard line.
20:06 DeKemp http://www.rtvdrenthe.nl/sites/default/files/imagecache/xxxx-large/kabel2_4D1CCE605B9AFB94C1257A18003822B0_2.jpg
20:06 Electricguy yeah thats the thing
20:06 DeKemp its for the emergency tower
20:06 tonsofpcs http://174.123.135.195/uploads05/2011/45/14-1181785323.JPG << heliax
20:06 DeKemp until the other is rebuild
20:07 Electricguy yeah heliax got foam insulation in it.
20:07 DeKemp ah, this is for the rebuild one
20:07 DeKemp http://www.rtvdrenthe.nl/sites/default/files/imagecache/xxxx-large/kabel_D36E7B8951E0294CC1257A180037C860_2.jpg
20:07 DeKemp 220 meters
20:07 Electricguy LOL! http://www.damnlol.com/i/8dc7f194e753e39dec75256e42994bc6.jpg
20:08 tonsofpcs http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Coaxialcableoneandfifthofan.jpg/200px-Coaxialcableoneandfifthofan.jpg << inside of heliax
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20:08 tonsofpcs (the ones I linked earlier are LDF, that one is air-dielectric)
20:09 DeKemp http://fmtvdx.eu/zendmast/smilde/herstel/hoogersmilde_toren_109.html  here you see they are pulling the 225meter DVB-T cable up the tower
20:09 BotSteve Title: Volker Wessels Telecom Herbouwt zendmast Hoogersmilde
20:09 tonsofpcs http://connecticutmicrowave.com/images/products/73_thumb_lg.jpg << rigid elbow
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20:11 KawaiiJess Where's Kate? I wanna rage about Blizzard! D:
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20:12 Electricguy STOP! Minecraft-time! :D
20:12 tonsofpcs s/minecraaft/hammer/
20:12 Electricguy halt! hammerzeit!
20:13 DeKemp minecraft, been there, done that
20:13 DeKemp boring as shit
20:14 DeKemp not fun annymore
20:14 Electricguy not at all if you like to build stuff and use your own imagination :P
20:14 DeKemp i lack that part
20:14 Electricguy been playing for over 3 years, still not bored XD
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20:15 tonsofpcs Electricguy: my imagination doesn't like being limited by minecraft
20:15 DeKemp hi wannna
20:15 wannabe1987 hi
20:15 Electricguy if i'm lazy, it does for me.. :P
20:16 DeKemp why are 90% of recomended videos on youtube, minecraft related....
20:17 tonsofpcs because you look at a lot of minecraft videos and they know it?
20:18 tonsofpcs mine has some football (soccer) related videos and some that are part of a series that I clicked on once...
20:18 DeKemp nope fresh windows install and not logged in on a account
20:18 tonsofpcs IP tracking...
20:18 DeKemp other ip
20:18 DeKemp im not at home
20:19 tonsofpcs well, I'm not logged in and browser clears all data on close/open...
20:19 DeKemp ...
20:19 DeKemp never wached minecraft videos at this place
20:19 tonsofpcs ok
20:19 DeKemp or used youtube
20:21 tonsofpcs or google? or gmail? or some website google tracks?
20:21 KawaiiJess Well that was interesting. I just fed Blizzard all my cd keys and now I can apparently download the clients. o.O
20:22 * KawaiiJess hasn't used Blizzard's services in a few years.)
20:22 tonsofpcs KawaiiJess: interesting.  even original starcraft or diablo or WC2?
20:22 KawaiiJess Yup
20:22 tonsofpcs oo!
20:22 KawaiiJess I can't find my copy of WC2, but I got Starcraft and Broodwar on there
20:22 * tonsofpcs lost his diablo discs years ago but thinks he still has the keys
20:22 KawaiiJess And I never owned a copy of Diablo 1
20:23 KawaiiJess Yeah all you need is the key
20:23 KawaiiJess And now they're all listed on the client download page
20:23 KawaiiJess StarCraft Anthology, Warcraft 3, Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction, Diablo 2
20:24 tonsofpcs ya, I have D2 install discs (w/ LoD) but lost the play discs in a cd carrier that got misplaced and/or stolen once
20:24 tonsofpcs and I have the keys :D
20:24 KawaiiJess ^_^ I'm guessing that's why they did it
20:24 DeKemp * has never played a blizard game in his live
20:25 * DeKemp keeps it that way
20:25 KawaiiJess Since not very many people can manage to hang onto physical cd's for that long
20:25 tonsofpcs i don't know if I have my SC keys or not though.  I always just installed it with 000000000000000003
20:25 KawaiiJess Lol
20:25 tonsofpcs we found that key out one day when trying to lan play and someone brought the disc but forgot his key
20:25 tonsofpcs he's like "i'll just start at 0 and go up"
20:25 tonsofpcs we're like "that'll take forever" aand he's immediately like "got it"
20:25 DeKemp lol
20:26 KawaiiJess Rofl
20:26 KawaiiJess I'm guessing that's because it was Starcraft and it was like 1998 and people were like lolwat's security?
20:26 tonsofpcs and WC II I know I don't have the key anymore. the key was embedded with the disc until the re-release for b.net so you never entered it.
20:27 KawaiiJess I had the b-net rerelease
20:27 tonsofpcs well, SC different keys mattered for b.net play.  remembeer, sc was the first game they released after b-net.
20:27 tonsofpcs and broodwar didn't need the key (but it had one)...
20:27 KawaiiJess Well I'm about to find out if Starcraft works on my new lappy
20:28 KawaiiJess I think Broodwar only had a key if you bought it separate
20:28 tonsofpcs was it made after 1996? if so, it does :-p
20:28 tonsofpcs I have SC2 behind me...
20:28 KawaiiJess I bought the $30 anthology pack or whatever. It was shortly after brood war had come out so my copy of brood war doesn't have a key
20:29 tonsofpcs really? I thought that's how I got broodwar and I definitely remember there being one on thee CD case and when I installed I was like "wtf, why does the cd have a key, it never asked for it"
20:29 KawaiiJess My Starcraft CD says 1998 and my Brood War says 1999
20:29 KawaiiJess Well when I fed Blizzard my Starcraft CD key, it knew it was an anthology set and the cover art is the two covers merging
20:30 KawaiiJess And I'm downloading the client right now and the picture is the Brood War cover
20:30 tonsofpcs interesting
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20:30 KawaiiJess So I guess they had special keys for the bundled packs
20:30 tonsofpcs maybe that's why it never asked
20:30 tonsofpcs maybe if i had installed th brood war over a non-bundled sc it waoould have asked?
20:30 KawaiiJess Well part of it is also because Brood War can't be run separately even if you bought it separately, which I had an idiot friend do that
20:30 KawaiiJess He got his mom to buy him Brood War, not realizing it wasn't a game, just an expansion
20:31 KawaiiJess Yeah that's what I'm thinking
20:31 DeKemp broodwar? that translates to  breadwar here :P
20:31 tonsofpcs I defintiely remember that if you wanted to play on b.net it was only the brood war disc that mattered because I know people who just bought brood war and isntalled on top of osmeone else's SC isntall and it wasn't an issue for them to play at the same time
20:31 KawaiiJess Also, it's definitely downloading both at the same time because the client is 1.22GB
20:32 tonsofpcs heh
20:32 KawaiiJess Yeah I remember that too
20:32 tonsofpcs well, the b.net updates over the years might be 1.22 GB :-p
20:32 KawaiiJess Haha
20:32 tonsofpcs "oops, we broke zergs"
20:32 tonsofpcs "oops, we unbroke zergs but broke the high end of the terran tech tree"
20:32 DeKemp now bf3  oh update . 2 gigs  WTF
20:32 KawaiiJess "Downloading 'StarCraft 1.15.2 enUS Installer'…"
20:32 DeKemp the whole instal is lik 18 gig wtf
20:33 tonsofpcs "lol we now have more changes to our product that we promised to never change than CounterStrike which promised regular updates"
20:33 DeKemp cs...
20:34 DeKemp for people with a computer from the 1980's
20:34 tonsofpcs DeKemp: uh... 1) no
20:34 tonsofpcs 2) DUKE3D.
20:34 KawaiiJess Ooh! Sorry if this fails, but I wanna try my sys script on this new laptop
20:34 KawaiiJess And it failed :(
20:34 DeKemp playing css on a lanparty
20:34 KawaiiJess Oh I know why
20:35 tonsofpcs sys script?
20:35 KawaiiJess Reads off all my system specs
20:35 KawaiiJess Brb
20:35 DeKemp sorry but, but realy that game...
20:35 tonsofpcs /exec -o uname -a
20:35 DeKemp the prefer it with a CRT
20:35 DeKemp response time they say...
20:36 tonsofpcs /exec -o cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -m 1 Hz
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20:36 tonsofpcs model name: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2500  @ 2.00GHz
20:37 KawaiiJess Ah damn
20:37 KawaiiJess It doesn't recognize python scripts
20:38 DeKemp unknown command...
20:38 tonsofpcs can you not simply /exec -o ?
20:38 KawaiiJess sh: /Applications/X-Chat: No such file or directory
20:39 tonsofpcs /exec -o cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -m 1 Hz
20:39 KawaiiJess brb
20:40 Yrouel tonsofpcs on mac /proc doesn't exist
20:40 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's a crApple, it doesn't have /proc
20:40 DeKemp lol
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20:41 DeKemp why whould someone buy a crapple
20:41 KawaiiJess I'm on a MacBook Pro - CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM - Speed: 2.6 GHz - Battery: Charged  (1% degraded) - RAM Usage: 4.3 GB / 8.0 GB [|||||-----] - Disk Space: 809.63 GB with 760.1 GB Free - Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - Resolution 1: 1440 x 900 - Resolution 2: 1680 x 1050 - Running: Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E2620) - Processes: 78 - Uptime: 22:46
20:41 KawaiiJess There we go
20:42 KawaiiJess I got off the unofficial version of X-Chat Aqua and now it's working. ;)
20:42 DeKemp lol
20:42 Yrouel DeKemp because for someone it fits
20:42 Yrouel KawaiiJess Azure?
20:42 KawaiiJess The last official release was in like 2006 or some shit, so it's pretty old
20:42 KawaiiJess Azure?
20:42 Yrouel KawaiiJess I'm using XChat Azure
20:42 Yrouel its on the app store
20:42 Yrouel free
20:43 KawaiiJess Oh? Interesting
20:43 KawaiiJess All I know is .16 was the last version of Aqua, and then someone released a .17 in 2009, but it was buggy
20:43 Yrouel KawaiiJess it's a bit more updated
20:43 Yrouel but the autocompletion is still broken unfortunately
20:44 DeKemp crapple fits only hipsters :P
20:44 Monkeh|Lap And normal, every day xchat still works fine
20:44 KawaiiJess Yrouel, they severely gut it or something
20:44 KawaiiJess The package shrunk from like 34MB to 12
20:44 Yrouel KawaiiJess uhm
20:45 KawaiiJess Ermmm. Okay well I see what you mean about the auto completion
20:45 KawaiiJess That was fixed in the .17 build I've been using for the last few years
20:45 Monkeh|Lap And normal XChat is 1.5MiB compiled. :P
20:45 Yrouel KawaiiJess it lacks sparkle and maybe the old localization files
20:46 KawaiiJess Ah. :P
20:46 KawaiiJess Also, DeKemp, that's such a silly statement
20:46 Yrouel nah it still have old locale folder
20:47 Yrouel well anyway it was a bit overhauled to comply App Store conditions
20:47 KawaiiJess Yeah. Fair enough
20:47 Monkeh|Lap s/conditions/competition killing restrictions/
20:47 Yrouel KawaiiJess autocompletion on lion was never fixed completely
20:48 Yrouel Monkeh|Lap lol stop trolling
20:48 Yrouel if don't like apple don't buy a mac
20:48 Monkeh|Lap I'm not trolling.
20:48 Yrouel no one is forced to buy anything
20:48 Monkeh|Lap Apple are actively, in many cases potentially illegal, anti-competitive.
20:48 KawaiiJess I sure hope it accepts my current application support folder
20:48 Yrouel KawaiiJess yes but you have to rename it
20:48 KawaiiJess Obviously. ;)
20:49 Yrouel open first azure to create the default one
20:49 Yrouel then swap them
20:49 KawaiiJess Yeah
20:49 KawaiiJess Oh. Apparently it's still 29.4MB
20:49 Yrouel remove localizations
20:49 Yrouel monolingual is your friend
20:49 KawaiiJess ;) I'll brb
20:50 Yrouel (use ONLY for languages)
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20:54 KawaiiJess Whoops. I think I forgot the prefs file
20:54 KawaiiJess Layout is all wonky
20:54 Yrouel KawaiiJess black?
20:54 Yrouel too black I mean
20:54 KawaiiJess No. It's just got like the channels on the bottom in tabs
20:54 Yrouel ah ok
20:54 KawaiiJess Instead of on the left in a list view
20:55 Yrouel anyway I was saying
20:55 Yrouel to use monolingual ONLY for localizations
20:55 Yrouel don't mind the other 2 tabs
20:55 Yrouel it messes up the system
20:55 Yrouel but for langs is fine
20:55 KawaiiJess Yeah I dumped all but en and it cut it down to 7.9mb
20:55 Yrouel oh
20:56 Yrouel sei italiano
20:56 Yrouel lol
20:56 Yrouel :D
20:56 KawaiiJess Now to see if the script still works D:
20:56 KawaiiJess I'm on a MacBook Pro - CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM - Speed: 2.6 GHz - Battery: Charged - RAM Usage: 4.1 GB / 8.0 GB [||||||||||] - Disk Space: 809.63 GB with 759.37 GB Free - Running: Mac OS X 10.7.4 (11E2620) - Uptime: 23:01
20:56 BatSteve sup y'all
20:56 KawaiiJess Yay
20:57 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now This channel has moved: irc.thegeekgroup.org #thegeekgroup.  Everyone gets ops in this channel! [This channel is publicly logged: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 ]
20:57 BatSteve there we go
20:57 KawaiiJess Y'know, the whole reason I started the Blizzard conversation was because I was trying to play the starter edition of 3
20:57 KawaiiJess I can't figure out how to get it though
20:57 KawaiiJess diablo 3*
21:00 KawaiiJess Yrouel, how the hell do I get the channel list on the left?
21:01 Yrouel uhm
21:01 Yrouel I have no idea
21:01 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
21:01 Yrouel I can lookup my pref file tho
21:01 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 91.4℉ (33℃), 29.97in (1012mb), Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGRR 20:53Z
21:01 Electricguy hrm.. a 14 year old girl is trying to teel me i'm NOT Batman! -,-
21:01 KawaiiJess Blarg! Okay well I'm looking all over the in-app prefs and I don't see jack
21:03 Yrouel KawaiiJess
21:03 Yrouel gui_ulist_hide = 0
21:03 Yrouel gui_ulist_left = 0
21:03 Yrouel gui_ulist_pos = 3
21:03 Yrouel look if those 3 are different
21:03 KawaiiJess Kk
21:03 Yrouel gui_ulist_style = 0
21:04 Yrouel too
21:04 BatSteve hm
21:04 BatSteve is tfw still broken?
21:04 BatSteve .tfw
21:04 BotSteve BatSteve: THE TFW MODULE IS FUCKING BROKEN
21:04 BatSteve boo
21:04 BatSteve Well, let's get that fixed.
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21:09 tonsofpcs ?
21:10 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: how are you getting your v6 address?
21:12 DeKemp .weather kgrr
21:12 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 91.4℉ (33℃), 29.97in (1012mb), Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGRR 20:53Z
21:12 DeKemp it is missing bft windspeed
21:13 tonsofpcs no it isn't
21:13 tonsofpcs "moderate breeze" is the beaufort.
21:14 DeKemp nr is better
21:15 DeKemp it is more commmon
21:16 DeKemp also, 24h Le Mans is on
21:16 DeKemp racing in the dark :)
21:18 wannabe1987 sweet
21:19 wannabe1987 races
21:20 DeKemp audi R18 E-Tron :D
21:21 DeKemp http://www.auto-power-girl.com/high-resolution-wallpapers/2012-audi-r18-e-tron-quattro-hybrid/2012-audi-r18-e-tron-quattro-hybrid-2.jpg
21:25 DeKemp first ''normal'' car is lapped 41 times
21:25 DeKemp lol
21:30 Electricguy hmmm.. i wonder how to change the autoexec.bat file on a Win98 machine to make it stop in DOS..
21:30 Electricguy there is more than just "win" in there... :P
21:32 DeKemp ?
21:32 Electricguy for 3.11 there is basically "win" in the autoexec.bat.. if even that
21:32 Electricguy on a Win98 machine there is a WHOLE LOT of crap..
21:33 DeKemp dont knwo
21:33 DeKemp *know
21:33 DeKemp dont care :P
21:33 Electricguy I didn't even ask you to.. :)
21:34 DeKemp why would yout use98?
21:34 Electricguy because i got a really cute little laptop that runs it
21:34 Electricguy and i want to tinker with DOS and USB support
21:34 DeKemp rape it by  putting vista on it :P
21:34 Electricguy ... No..
21:35 DeKemp :P
21:35 wannabe1987 STORMZ are on their way :D
21:35 DeKemp putting vista on a machine is like raping it
21:35 wannabe1987 .radar kgrr
21:35 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=GRR&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
21:35 Electricguy one thing i may do is to just swap the HDD and pull DOS onto that..
21:35 Electricguy then i still got the original Win98 drive to plug in if i want to..
21:38 Yrouel Electricguy why you still play with such software?
21:38 Electricguy because it's damn fun?
21:38 Yrouel dos is fun?
21:38 Yrouel omg
21:38 Electricguy it's not MY problem if you don't like old stuff... :P
21:38 Yrouel I like old systems
21:39 Yrouel but dos is not fun
21:39 Electricguy it is when you understand how to use it.. :P
21:39 wannabe1987 Yrouel, whats it hurt if he uses old stuff?
21:40 Yrouel nothing I was just curious
21:40 DeKemp oldskool ftw
21:40 wannabe1987 LIGHTNING
21:41 Electricguy i seriously wonder where the heck the HDD is located in this little laptop..
21:41 DeKemp 3secs between the flash and boom, thent its about 1km away
21:42 wannabe1987 whats a km?
21:42 wannabe1987 :P
21:42 Electricguy it's one of those logical Metric units.. :P
21:42 DeKemp not using km is the shortcomming of americaans
21:42 DeKemp :P
21:43 DeKemp the power of 10's
21:43 DeKemp also celsius whoops fahrenheis ass
21:44 DeKemp below 0 degrees if freezes, its logical
21:45 wannabe1987 we're in a severe tstorm warning
21:45 Electricguy >:> this 1997 laptop doesn't support dual boot! >_>
21:45 Electricguy *cough*
21:46 Yrouel DeKemp http://img.math-fail.com/wp-content/uploads/Math-Fail-Pics-159-600x456.jpg
21:46 Electricguy and then there is France... with their AZERTY keyboards! XD
21:47 DeKemp thats just the french
21:47 DeKemp and belgium
21:47 DeKemp QWERTY!
21:48 Electricguy qwerty ftw :P
21:48 Yrouel at least keyboards aren't so foundamental like everyday units
21:48 Yrouel and you can swap them easily
21:48 Yrouel an entire nation that does measures wrong it's an entirely different problem
21:49 DeKemp the english uses the also
21:49 DeKemp but they drive on the wrong side of the rode
21:49 Yrouel DeKemp they are in the middle
21:50 DeKemp *road
21:50 Yrouel British law now defines each imperial unit in terms of the metric equivalent. The metric system is in official use within the United Kingdom for some applications; however, use of Imperial unit is still widespread.
21:50 wannabe1987 if we're so horrible cuz we use standard, not metric, why do ya'll wantt o come here for tgg?
21:51 Yrouel according to wikipedia
21:51 wannabe1987 .c 1mile to 1km
21:51 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
21:51 wannabe1987 .c 1 mile to 1km
21:51 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
21:51 Yrouel wannabe1987 tgg is awesome but I hate when you guys use imperial units
21:51 Yrouel and at the same time talk about science
21:51 DeKemp SI!
21:51 DeKemp USE IT
21:52 wannabe1987 .c 1km to miles
21:52 BotSteve 0.621371192 miles
21:52 DeKemp logic!
21:53 Yrouel should be really useful if tgg will promote the use of units used in the scientific world
21:53 Yrouel in other words SI units...
21:53 wannabe1987 logic?  whats that?
21:53 DeKemp http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Non-Metric_User.svg/800px-Non-Metric_User.svg.png
21:54 DeKemp lol
21:55 Electricguy i'm totally going to burns CDs full of DOS software!
21:55 Experimentonomen hm
21:56 Yrouel anyway I still don't understand why 20 or 30 or even 50 years ago US didn't promote a long term switch to SI units
21:56 DeKemp becaus they are retarted :p
21:56 wannabe1987 because people complained that it was too hard
21:56 Yrouel done in some decades wouldn't costed too much
21:57 DeKemp to hard my ass
21:57 Yrouel wannabe1987 that's why I said long term
21:57 DeKemp its friqing 10'S
21:57 Yrouel wannabe1987 and I'd say because people where too dumb...
21:57 Electricguy it's the US.. conservative as fuck! ;D
21:57 DeKemp if you can count to 10 you can use metrifc
21:57 DeKemp *metric
21:57 wannabe1987 i'm just repeating what i was told by my grandparents
21:58 wannabe1987 yes, but the learning conversions is whats difficult
21:58 DeKemp us is just a bit ignorant
21:59 Yrouel wannabe1987 if they starded 50 years ago doing it now it will be done
21:59 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, huh?
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22:03 DeKemp whats with the @
22:03 Electricguy everybody got OPs for some reason
22:04 Electricguy but Monkeh|Lap was very kind to free me from the shit :D
22:04 DeKemp LOl
22:04 Electricguy at least for a while
22:04 Electricguy i wonder when i got OPs again.. hrm
22:04 * Experimentonomen yawns
22:05 * DeKemp slaps Electricguy around a bit with a large trout
22:05 DeKemp :P
22:05 Electricguy be nice! otherwise i'll call the buttsex ninja.. :P
22:05 Experimentonomen O_o
22:05 Experimentonomen o_O
22:06 DeKemp invisable butsex
22:06 Electricguy yep!
22:06 Electricguy you NEVER know when he comes!
22:06 wannabe1987 ...
22:06 wannabe1987 thats what she said
22:06 DeKemp ...
22:06 Electricguy yer
22:06 DeKemp perfy wanna
22:07 Electricguy it's like ninja convents.. they SUCK for non-ninjas! you don't see ONE DAMN NINJA! -,-
22:07 Electricguy http://lolpics.se/pics/315.jpg
22:09 Electricguy W00t! TGG's server is damn stable.. :P
22:09 Electricguy it just went down
22:09 wannabe1987 ?
22:09 wannabe1987 what server
22:09 Electricguy one good reason to stick to this channel XD
22:10 Electricguy irc.thegeekgroup.org
22:10 wannabe1987 that server isn't at the lab.....so must be dr_jkl messing with things
22:10 Electricguy but still, it went down
22:12 wannabe1987 ok
22:13 Experimentonomen i wonder how many servers total freenode has, i'd imagine something like a few million servers scattered all over the world
22:14 Electricguy yeah
22:14 DeKemp freenode simalar to quakenet?
22:15 Electricguy no idea how Quakenet is built up
22:16 wannabe1987 ok going to lab now
22:16 Experimentonomen freenode is like a fart in space compared to quakenet
22:16 wannabe1987 it are not raining much so i won't get wet
22:17 Electricguy ok, that "a few million" was a bit over the edge really.. :P
22:17 Electricguy http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
22:17 BotSteve Title: About freenode: IRC Servers
22:17 Electricguy thats all the Freenode servers
22:17 Experimentonomen i even think quakenet is like rthe foundation and all other networks are sub networks owned and ran by quakenet
22:18 Electricguy nah Quakenet is just like all other IRC server networks
22:18 Electricguy Quakenet only got 13 public servers
22:19 Electricguy http://www.quakenet.org/servers
22:19 BotSteve Title: QuakeNet IRC Network - Servers
22:19 Electricguy i thought there were WAAAY more servers really...
22:19 Experimentonomen last i heard, quakenet was the biggest irc network in existance
22:19 DeKemp proberly not listed on their site
22:20 Experimentonomen well it prolly was sometime back in the 80's-90's
22:20 Electricguy yeah Quakenet is old as crap
22:20 Coderjoe million? HAHA
22:20 Experimentonomen im pretty sure quakenet was the first irc network ever created, may even be ran by the ppl who invented IRC
22:21 Electricguy The quakenet website is from 1998
22:21 Coderjoe no
22:21 Electricguy nah. IRC came back in the 80's :P
22:21 Electricguy Quakenet came in the 90's when the game Quake was extremely popular
22:21 DeKemp acording to wiki QN is the biggest
22:21 Electricguy Freenode came 2002
22:22 DeKemp 1997 WN
22:22 DeKemp *QN
22:22 Coderjoe first there was just "IRC", then efnet split off ("Eris-Free Network" so named because it disconnected servers it saw linking in a problem server named eris.berkley.edu)
22:22 Electricguy dekemp, i know.. i just typed that some lines up.. :P
22:22 DeKemp ah
22:23 Coderjoe freenode "evolved" from opn, which was around in the late 90s already
22:23 Electricguy oki
22:23 Electricguy IRC was created in 1988
22:24 Electricguy EFNet came 1990
22:26 Experimentonomen so u could say msn messenger, skype and teamspeak with its multiple ppl in one convo capability today is what the original IRC was back in the late 80'sa to early 90's ?
22:26 Electricguy yeah
22:26 Electricguy MSn and skype IS in fact IRC too
22:26 Electricguy cayse it's also a type of internet relay chat
22:26 Electricguy cause*
22:26 Experimentonomen except u dont join channels, but instead invite ppl
22:27 Electricguy but "real" IRC should be the mother of it all
22:27 Coderjoe freenode says: There are 242 users and 67199 invisible on 28 servers
22:28 Experimentonomen well wasent irc the first kinda online chat there ever was and everything else branched off from there ?
22:28 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
22:28 Coderjoe as of a minute ago. (it says it just before the MOTD when you connect to the server)
22:28 Electricguy there was something before IRC..
22:28 Electricguy can't remember the name though
22:28 Coderjoe now, that also counts the services server
22:28 Electricguy but basically the reason why internet was ever invented
22:28 Electricguy some message thing for military communication
22:29 DeKemp CERN!
22:29 Experimentonomen i've heard the internet originated as a military communications thing, much like the cellphone and sms is today
22:29 Coderjoe there was "talk"
22:29 Coderjoe but that was one-on-one
22:29 DeKemp cern room 404
22:29 Electricguy speaking of Cern.. i want a pocket sized hadron collider!
22:30 Coderjoe ARPANET
22:30 DeKemp :D
22:30 Experimentonomen but i wonder if the military original was computer and modem based or RF based
22:30 JA12 IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988 to replace a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk) on a BBS called OuluBox in Finland.[9] Oikarinen found inspiration in a chat system known as Bitnet Relay, which operated on the BITNET.[9]
22:30 wannabe1987 hi JA12
22:31 JA12 hi wannabe
22:31 wannabe1987 https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/6/16/5uEyRoVmhkqRDehaMVmdjQ2.jpg  this. this is why christianity is so hard to comprehend
22:32 Yrouel lol
22:32 JA12 =)
22:32 Electricguy religion in general is BS.. :P
22:32 DeKemp :P
22:32 Yrouel yep
22:32 DeKemp and retarded
22:32 Electricguy yeah
22:33 Electricguy this is SO TRUE :P http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Ways+to+ask+for+money.+The+right+and+wrong+way_8dafe0_3679781.jpg
22:33 Experimentonomen Electricguy, an excuse for ppl to evade police and conviction for slaugghtering ppl as a sacrefice to the "gods"
22:33 Electricguy yeah
22:34 Electricguy i believe in MYSELF.. cause i know that i exist.. and it works just fine XD
22:34 wannabe1987 are you sure you exist?
22:35 Electricguy yeah.. it would be hard to post stuff on social media to others that exists if i didn't.. :P
22:35 Electricguy and if i don't.. GIVE ME A DAMN MDEAL CAUSE I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT THAT WORLD PORTALS REALLY EXIST! :D
22:35 Electricguy medal*
22:35 DeKemp as of now we can confirm people exist
22:36 wannabe1987 ok. just checking.
22:36 DeKemp thats seience.
22:37 Electricguy NAAAH! i'm just fucking around! :P i'm just an ordinary super computer that can think by myself and do stuff i'm not told to do! :P
22:37 BitViper wannabe1987 : people do not exist, we are figments of your imagination
22:37 wannabe1987 i knew that....derp
22:37 wannabe1987 actually
22:37 wannabe1987 figments of my imagination would do housework so i wouldn't have to
22:37 * Experimentonomen lets out a puff of smoke and decides to goto bed
22:37 wannabe1987 you mucha ctually exist....
22:38 DeKemp lol @ 24h le mans
22:38 BitViper LOL
22:38 Experimentonomen nite peepz
22:38 wannabe1987 magic smoke?
22:38 DeKemp ''take the floor off''
22:38 wannabe1987 night Experimentonomen
22:38 DeKemp that doesnt sound good
22:38 Electricguy night exp
22:38 DeKemp nn
22:38 BitViper was that smoke, or gas ?
22:38 Electricguy *sniff sniff*
22:38 wannabe1987 you'll never know
22:38 Electricguy smoke..
22:38 DeKemp ?
22:39 Electricguy smells like burnt silicon
22:39 JA12 <insert fart joke>
22:39 BitViper eh, the new server is down ?
22:39 wannabe1987 CORY, you dont belong ins sweden
22:39 wannabe1987 yes
22:39 Electricguy BitViper, yeah. damn stable, huh? :D
22:39 BitViper Electricguy aparentky
22:40 * Electricguy looks at keyboard... yep! aparentky is a possible typo
22:40 BitViper friggin lysdexi fingers
22:40 wannabe1987 talk to jkl
22:40 Electricguy i should really go to bed too!
22:40 DeKemp i have dyslecskteowihjiweohjes
22:40 Electricguy night everybody! live long and prosper!
22:40 Electricguy :P
22:40 DeKemp nn
22:40 BitViper nite egg
22:40 wannabe1987 night
22:40 Electricguy hibernate well! :D
22:41 Electricguy and may your DMA be enabled! :3
22:41 DeKemp 0.1uA mode
22:42 JA12 we're all children of evil space robots, we know how to hibernate
22:42 wannabe1987 moose is trying to put squares in circles
22:42 DeKemp ....
22:42 wannabe1987 (its not working)
22:43 DeKemp the circle smaller thant the square?
22:43 wannabe1987 no, it seems to be a template(?)
22:43 wannabe1987 but she doesn't have the clamp needed, its too expensive or something
22:43 wannabe1987 :shrug:
22:43 DeKemp clamp expensive...
22:44 DeKemp got 3 cnc machines
22:44 DeKemp but the clamp is to expensive...
22:44 wannabe1987 really
22:44 wannabe1987 something that needs to be made at at ool and die shop i guess
22:44 wannabe1987 :shrug:
22:44 wannabe1987 its moose
22:45 DeKemp ool and die?\
22:45 wannabe1987 tool
22:45 JA12 she's making a pentagram? :P
22:46 DeKemp evil
22:46 JA12 black candles turning in the lathe?
22:48 wannabe1987 :shrug:
22:48 wannabe1987 i heard it 2nd hand....
22:50 JA12 :)
22:52 JA12 seriously though, clamping is not always easy, especially when machining metal
22:55 DeKemp depands on the shape
23:00 wannabe1987 http://hackaday.com/2012/06/16/finally-a-3d-printer-for-burritos/
23:00 BotSteve Title: Finally, a 3D printer for burritos - Hack a Day
23:00 wannabe1987 don't tell cory
23:00 JA12 shape, size of the workpiece/tooling/machine, forces, what clamping equipment you have, what measurement devices you have, and the operations you need to make, like indexing holes
23:06 DeKemp bussy desining a sheetmetal cover for a cable stripping machine :)
23:08 DeKemp that R18 E-Tron i just a beast of a car
23:08 JA12 one thing that's not easy either is transferring your domain name when you're not done that before and the domain contact informations is wrong
23:08 JA12 *are
23:09 DeKemp lol
23:09 Monkeh dr_jkl: What goes on?
23:11 FunkEngine I LIVE!
23:14 wannabe1987 O.o
23:14 wannabe1987 i was wondering....
23:14 Monkeh YOU DIE!
23:14 wannabe1987 :(  don't kill funk!
23:14 Monkeh Didn't say I'd kill him or when he'd die, now did I? :P
23:14 wannabe1987 no, but still
23:14 Monkeh I will consider your request.
23:15 DeKemp lol a corvette on 3 wheels
23:15 DeKemp sparks
23:15 wannabe1987 you knowwhats better than 24 hours of le mans?  24 hours of lemons :D
23:15 DeKemp ....
23:16 wannabe1987 all the cars cost less than $500
23:16 wannabe1987 usd
23:16 Monkeh wannabe1987: Cars don't catch serious air in that :P
23:16 JA12 wait a minute... am I too tired, already sleeping, does my irc client malfunction, or do almost all of us have ops?
23:16 wannabe1987 we all have ops
23:16 JA12 k
23:16 Monkeh There, now you don't
23:16 Monkeh ;)
23:16 JA12 I don't care
23:16 wannabe1987 BatSteve-Away did it because its not the official channel anymore so he doesn't care
23:17 Monkeh Actually, for safety.
23:17 JA12 I prefer not to have ops anyways
23:17 DeKemp lol
23:17 Monkeh I think that's wise.
23:17 wannabe1987 agreed
23:17 DeKemp driving 24 with a heap of shit
23:17 wannabe1987 yes DeKemp
23:18 FunkEngine so I can't tell, did my boxes arrive at the labs today?
23:18 DeKemp but those don't do 320km/h :P
23:19 DeKemp diesel
23:20 FunkEngine it doesn't help that the new network is down currently.
23:20 wannabe1987 noone knows....the website says they left a notice
23:20 wannabe1987 aaron says no
23:20 FunkEngine pffft, someone prolly has to go pick them up or something.
23:20 Yrouel uhm
23:20 FunkEngine I haven't a clue why.
23:20 DeKemp computer sais noo
23:20 Yrouel did chris resolved the thing with youtube?
23:20 Yrouel the limit of 15 minutes for the videos
23:20 wannabe1987 doubt it
23:20 DeKemp drama
23:20 wannabe1987 i emailed jkl about it
23:25 FunkEngine it just seems funny that the post office wouldn't deliver it... Its not like the labs don't get their own bin full of mail every day normally...
23:26 wannabe1987 they tried to deliver at 8am....
23:26 wannabe1987 we're not open till noon
23:26 FunkEngine ohhhh, riiiight.
23:28 egrsteve wannabe1987: does zozo no the IRC server is down, I assume he does but anyway...
23:28 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
23:28 BotSteve At 15 Jun 05:54Z, Coderjoe asked me to tell egrsteve he may be interested in a new digital repeater group https://www.facebook.com/notes/jeffrey-nawrot/kd8rxd-kilo-delta-eight-receive-digital-communications-group/458925484119986
23:29 wannabe1987 yes, he knows, i emailed jkl too
23:30 FunkEngine_AFK the teamspeak server is still up though.
23:30 wannabe1987 yes, but you weren't in it....
23:30 FunkEngine_AFK :3
23:31 FunkEngine_AFK oh, I am on the other machine.
23:31 wannabe1987 lol i could get in it....
23:31 wannabe1987 i'd have to leave the basement (its ok w/ me, its too cold down here)
23:31 FunkEngine_AFK gimme a few to ambulate back out there.
23:36 wannabe1987 ambulate = awesome word
23:37 dr_jkl i'm looking at it
23:38 * exor674 hugs at dr_jkl again <3
23:40 wannabe1987 yay thanks jkl!!!!
23:41 dr_jkl i fixed it.
23:41 DeKemp how can the irc server be down if where are talking on irc?
23:41 wannabe1987 the official server
23:42 * exor674 headdesk
23:43 DeKemp ?
23:43 wannabe1987 irc.thegeekgroup.org
23:44 exor674 and oy, I should dinner.
23:45 wannabe1987 psh.  i had toast for dinner
23:48 DeKemp i had fries and frikandelle
23:49 DeKemp *frikandellen
23:49 wannabe1987 bless you
23:49 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
23:50 DeKemp http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/frikandel-lg.jpg yumm
23:50 wannabe1987 looks like a hot dog
23:51 wannabe1987 speaking of toast
23:51 DeKemp but its completly differrend
23:51 Toastdude Why does everyone get ops?
23:51 wannabe1987 because
23:51 wannabe1987 it are not official channel
23:51 DeKemp LOl
23:51 wannabe1987 fail
23:51 wannabe1987 ask BatSteve
23:51 DeKemp :P
23:52 wannabe1987 (actually it was so BatSteve-Away could keep the channels separate)
23:52 wannabe1987 awwwww
23:52 DeKemp was kicked by dr_jkl: didn't your mother tell you not to touch a lady like that?
23:52 exor674 ... how long have I been opped lol?
23:52 Toastdude ….
23:52 * exor674 nibbles on her stickybun
23:52 wannabe1987 since last night
23:53 wannabe1987 thanks jkl
23:53 DeKemp joined #thegeekgroup
23:53 Toastdude was kicked by dr_jkl: mach keinen scheisse
23:53 DeKemp i was in dthe middle of typing
23:53 dr_jkl seriously
23:53 dr_jkl bunch of fucking children
23:53 * Yrouel 'night
23:53 dr_jkl oh,  wow
23:53 DeKemp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pfkfN4m6E&amp;feature=related i dont understand a single word of it. But it sounds so awsome
23:53 wannabe1987 jkl, it doesn't matter here.....
23:53 BotSteve Title: Tracktor Bowling - Шрамы [OFFICIAL CLIP] - YouTube
23:53 wannabe1987 its not the official channel
23:53 wannabe1987 bats set it this way oddly enough
23:54 dr_jkl that's no excuse to act like children
23:54 wannabe1987 well, reop me please?
23:54 exor674 dr_jkl: seconded.
23:54 exor674 thereyougo
23:54 DeKemp you can op yourself :P
23:54 DeKemp oh :(
23:55 wannabe1987 thanks
23:55 wannabe1987 well, noone taught me how
23:56 DeKemp stupid solidworks
23:56 DeKemp doen't let me do something
23:56 Monkeh dr_jkl: So what happened?
23:56 wannabe1987 http://www.housingaforest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMGP1116-1024x684.jpg
23:56 DeKemp non newton fluid
23:56 wannabe1987 mhm
23:57 wannabe1987 they made it jumpby putting it on a cookie sheet and a subwoofer
23:57 Coderjoe wannabe1987: if you're identified to nickserv and you are in the channel's op list in chanserv, you can just do a /msg chanserv op #thegeekgroup
23:57 wannabe1987 i would when babysitting but i don't have a subwoofer
23:57 wannabe1987 sweet.  thanks Coderjoe
23:57 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
23:58 Toastdude dr_jkl, I thought I was re-opping wannabe..
23:58 JA12 my brother did the same thing, but he used his car as non newtonian fluid
23:58 Coderjoe or if you're set to auto-op, you could just cycle. (part and rejoin. many clients have a /cycle command to do that)
23:58 wannabe1987 http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/white-trash-repairs-there-i-fixed-it-tifi-win-hungarian-man-builds-motorcycle-out-of-wood.jpg
23:59 DeKemp lol the url
23:59 JA12 yeah that's not a fail
23:59 wannabe1987 http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/crazy-parenting-fails-parenting-fails-grandma-uses-chopsticks.jpg
23:59 wannabe1987 lol
23:59 DeKemp does it has wooden oil seals and springs?
23:59 JA12 and there's also a wooden vespa

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