Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-06-17

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00:00 wannabe1987 :shrug:
00:00 wannabe1987 FunkEngine_AFK: did you get lost?
00:00 Coderjoe the jumpy non-newtonian fluid thing is kinda old
00:00 JA12 http://thematerialsleuth.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/vespa-4.jpeg
00:01 wannabe1987 yes, but for kids, Coderjoe, like my younger siblings, who havent's een it before, its pretty cool.  so is the fluid itself.
00:01 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kevqQHZSeao
00:01 BotSteve Title: Cornstarch Monster - Non-Newtonian Fluid on Speaker Cone - YouTube
00:01 Coderjoe aww. it wants out
00:03 JA12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GBf8y0lY0
00:03 BotSteve Title: Sound Waves - YouTube
00:04 wannabe1987 Cprossu: http://failblog.org/2012/06/15/party-fails-after-alcobots-rejoice/
00:04 BotSteve Title: After 12: Alcobots, Rejoice! - EPIC FAIL Funny Videos and Epic Fail Funny Pictures
00:04 wannabe1987 its in AZ, phoenix.  go find!
00:06 DeKemp someone experined with solidworks?
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00:26 Toastdude Danke..
00:27 eadthem well everyone else is
00:27 Toastdude I know, but I thought I had lost it because I accidentally banned something (it was +o, but that's not the point)
00:29 eadthem o.0
00:30 FunkEngine :3
00:30 Monkeh Children, please, stop pushing buttons
00:31 Coderjoe devast8a banned him 72980 seconds before that
00:31 * eadthem pushes Monkeh's buttons
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00:50 Toastdude Hi Crispy
00:51 BatSteve hola
00:51 Toastdude Hi Bats
00:52 BatSteve wannabe1987: actually keeping the channels separate was just a useful side effect
00:52 BatSteve I just wanted to see what would happen
00:52 wannabe1987 lol
00:52 wannabe1987 its a good reason tho !
00:52 wannabe1987 :P
00:52 BatSteve when did the other one go down?
00:53 BatSteve it seems up right now
00:53 Toastdude That's what happens. :P
00:53 wannabe1987 it went down around 1800
00:53 BatSteve I am nothing if not vulnerable to peer pressure
00:54 wannabe1987 i emailed jkl and she fixed it
00:54 wannabe1987 lol
00:54 wannabe1987 i like my @
00:54 BatSteve There's nothing to do with it...this is the most well-behaved channel ever
00:55 wannabe1987 ik
00:55 wannabe1987 but i still like it!
00:56 Thermoelectric I agree, usually by now people would have kicked everyone or played around with the channel flags.
00:56 Monkeh People have :P
00:56 Toastdude On one is really talking… probably because they're all afraid to get kicked. :P
00:56 Toastdude was kicked by Monkeh: How dare you make such a suggestion
00:57 Monkeh Okay, yes, I'm a naughty op.
00:57 Monkeh :)
00:57 wannabe1987 TEAMSPEAK: 173.13.12.252
00:57 Thermoelectric Monkeh, yes, but in what, 24 hours I think there have been two or three kicks?
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00:58 Monkeh Toastdude: :)
00:59 Toastdude You know I was just asking for that. :P
00:59 wannabe1987 i told him what you said lol
00:59 Monkeh Toastdude: Yes, I know. I felt obligated to give it to you.
01:04 Monkeh was kicked by Toastdude: Why not? :P
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01:04 Monkeh It begins.
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01:33 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
01:33 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 0.43 hours ago at 2012-06-17 01:07:28 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 01:33:28 UTC
01:33 wannabe1987 .
01:34 wannabe1987 yes dear?
01:34 lwq1996 fucking hell. damn you chrome
01:35 lwq1996 why was everyone made ops?
01:36 wannabe1987 because reasons
01:36 lwq1996 eh. idk if i want ops. i would abuse my power
01:36 wannabe1987 its not the official channel, does it matter?
01:37 lwq1996 eh. guess not
01:37 Toastdude was kicked by wannabe1987: hi!
01:37 BatSteve lwq1996: because I wanted to see what would happen
01:37 lwq1996 ah. lol
01:37 BatSteve and when it was the official channel, nobody would let me
01:37 BatSteve .c 6 weeks -> days
01:37 BotSteve 42 days
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02:05 Toastdude Hi
02:06 wannabe1987 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151831763645300&set=a.10151831762890300.874064.776530299&type=1&ref=nf
02:06 BotSteve Title: Facebook
02:06 wannabe1987 irc and ts died
02:06 wannabe1987 :(
02:07 BatSteve What, the other one?
02:07 wannabe1987 all 3 things died
02:07 wannabe1987 dey are quiet
02:07 wannabe1987 ppl are busy i guess
02:07 wannabe1987 it are odd
02:07 BatSteve oh, I thought you meant they were technically dead
02:07 BatSteve Busy people is much less important
02:08 Toastdude Lightning struck 123.5 feet away!
02:08 * BatSteve goes back to being busy, like everyone else
02:08 Toastdude Conformist….
02:08 wannabe1987 communist*
02:08 Toastdude No, conformist.
02:09 wannabe1987 well, why'd you leave ts?!
02:09 wannabe1987 anyway
02:10 Toastdude Cause we were dealing with severe storms..
02:10 FunkEngine BotSteve, Tell BitViper FunkEngine gave the relevant info to Chris/Adam for contacting Alpha...
02:10 BotSteve FunkEngine: I'll pass that on when BitViper is around.
02:12 wannabe1987 fine, i guess thats a good enough reason :P
02:12 wannabe1987 my friends are dealing with downed trees/no power
02:13 Toastdude Our lights flickered, but never went out.
02:14 Toastdude And, like I said, the close lightning.
02:14 wannabe1987 yes
02:20 Hackbat I just heard the best WiFi name ever
02:21 Toastdude What?
02:21 Hackbat Abraham Linksys
02:21 Toastdude :D
02:23 wannabe1987 llol
02:25 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDlahk6BTE&feature=related
02:25 BotSteve Title: Fire Tornado! - YouTube
02:25 Hackbat just
02:25 Hackbat awesome
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02:58 masterofmonks Hello there ladies and gentlemen.
02:59 masterofmonks Welcome to the show.
02:59 wannabe1987 oooo where?!
03:00 wannabe1987 YAY MOM! :D
03:00 Monkeh|Lap The master returns!
03:00 wannabe1987 :D
03:00 wannabe1987 yes, it took me a sec to realize what chan this was. :P
03:01 masterofmonks And now, we pack the moving trucks, and head out to ##thegeekgroup.
03:02 masterofmonks Riding out of the sunset to raid and pillage on the way.
03:03 masterofmonks And you cycle the channel, you part and return, you will find that you end up in ##thegeekgroup.
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Or I can stay here and see how confused people get
03:04 masterofmonks This si true.
03:04 masterofmonks is*
03:06 Coderjoe why?
03:07 masterofmonks Many reasons, friend, but all of them are simply because this is transitioning to the unofficial status.
03:07 Coderjoe so?
03:07 Monkeh|Lap So we don't want Freenode to get all politically correct on us?
03:07 masterofmonks It means that to conform to Freenode channel policy, we need to change to ##
03:08 Coderjoe *sigh*
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03:08 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: I like my version.
03:08 Coderjoe yet another freenode protocol bastardization
03:08 Coderjoe (yes, I know it has been there awhile, but I still don't like it)
03:09 Coderjoe (the bastardization being allowing multiple # in a channel name)
03:11 Coderjoe I also still don't understand the need to move the channel to a privately-run server, that apparently also has stability issues
03:11 Monkeh|Lap Freenode also has stability issues, your point?
03:11 Coderjoe freenode also has more than one server
03:12 masterofmonks Coderjoe, You would have to take that up with the staff that we are no longer officially part of.
03:12 Coderjoe so a single server going out generally doesn't hurt
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Doesn't help when it's the one you're on. Or the one everyone else is on.
03:12 Coderjoe but everyone else wouldn't be on one single server.
03:12 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Too much politics.
03:13 masterofmonks Monkeh, Agreed.
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03:15 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Freenode netsplits are still often quite fatal to conversation.
03:15 Coderjoe the problem with a single-server network is that if that one machine goes down, everything is dark until the problem is resolved
03:16 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: And when Freenode, being universally disliked and hosting numerous major projects, gets essentially knocked out by a DDoS (every other week.), everything is equally dark.
03:16 Coderjoe no it isn't
03:16 Coderjoe (and believe me, I am no freenode "apologist")
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Fact is, with under a hundred regular users, it's not a major problem to have a single server.
03:17 FunkEngine some member out there has space to co-lo an IRCD.
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Other means of net group communication (mailing lists, forums, teamspeak/etc, the list goes on) suffer from the same problem
03:18 Coderjoe and with a single server, you piss off one immature person and they DDoS one server and take all conversation out
03:19 Coderjoe at least with a larger network of systems, it takes more effort to take things down.
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: And that, right there, is why I won't be volunteering my server to act as an ircd.
03:20 Coderjoe that is why there are a number of datacenter providers that will not allow an ircd on their networks
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Mine will allow an ircd. But they have a fairly strict policy on people attracting trouble.
03:20 wannabe1987 masterofmonks, whats the channel password?
03:21 masterofmonks Irrelevant now.
04:15 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: allowing channel names in and of itself is a bastardization :-p
04:16 tonsofpcs but the irc rfc version with text names does allow for multiple #
04:22 FunkEngine what if we were to only allow connections over ssl?
04:41 Coderjoe <chstring> ::= <any 8bit code except SPACE, BELL, NUL, CR, LF and comma (',')>
04:41 Coderjoe so it does
04:42 Coderjoe <channel> ::= ('#' | '&') <chstring>
04:43 Coderjoe though freenode apparently did kill & channels
04:48 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks to look at his pm's
05:00 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: manny modern ircds 'disable' & channels by default, reserving them for creation by network operators and/or config scripts.
05:02 Coderjoe i've not really tried them in a long long time
05:02 tonsofpcs (F is only required for a target)
05:02 masterofmonks tonsofpcs, This channel was a target.
05:03 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: it was?
05:03 masterofmonks Yes.
05:03 tonsofpcs from where?
05:03 masterofmonks Soem place that doesn't exist.
05:03 tonsofpcs ...
05:03 wannabe1987 ooooo the aliens?
05:04 wannabe1987 or the visitors?
05:04 tonsofpcs we prefer to be called "Vs"
05:04 wannabe1987 i want more of that show....
05:05 Coderjoe watch the 1984 one?
05:05 wannabe1987 it ended with lots of questions
05:05 wannabe1987 i could....i'd need to see if its avail on torrents
05:05 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: so much better than the new one.
05:05 tonsofpcs the new one was just the old one with every gender swapped, then it took a downard spiral into full-on teenage drama
05:06 wannabe1987 lol
05:06 Coderjoe what doesn't?
05:06 Coderjoe (stargate universe?)
05:06 wannabe1987 i've only seen sga, not sgu.....so idk
05:06 masterofmonks As a Stargate television show, that sucked.
05:06 wannabe1987 still working on Sg1
05:07 masterofmonks As it's own Sci - Fi series, it was tolerable.
05:07 wannabe1987 i need more overnight shifts
05:07 Coderjoe it's like someone saw the "teen angst" segment from sg1 episode 300 and thought it was excellent and needed to be made
05:08 Coderjoe (with some changes)
05:08 tonsofpcs seriously, EVERY single character's gender is swapped.  Yes, a girl gets prgenant with a hybrid baby but that girl is a human and the guy is the visitor, her dad is on the resiistance force, etc....
05:08 wannabe1987 i found V: the final battle
05:08 wannabe1987 but i need the prequel
05:08 tonsofpcs that's the made-for-tv movie I think
05:09 wannabe1987 its only got 3 episodes
05:09 Coderjoe i haven't seen the end of either sgu or V
05:09 tonsofpcs there was a full-on mini series, a full movie, and an 'ending' for-tv movie.  Theyy consolidated the mini series for later playback.
05:10 wannabe1987 well, i'll start these two things i found....
05:10 wannabe1987 also found this: http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2249552/13984304/
05:10 BotSteve Title: V TV series 1984-1985 - PTR - Demonoid
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07:03 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Please part this channel and join ##thegeekgroup
07:58 einball morning
08:07 Thermoelectric If you rejoin this channel einball you'll get redirected to the "new" unofficial TGG channel, more awake people in there.
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08:46 einball so why the change to the "new" unofficial chan?
08:46 einball Thermoelectric:
08:48 Thermoelectric Because this channel is no longer official, and to follow Freenode guidelines, unofficial channels need to be ##
08:48 einball ah okay ... so why don't close this one?
08:49 Thermoelectric As that would annoy people, don't want to have to kick everyone from here.
08:49 einball hm
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10:58 FunkEngine Soooo.
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14:45 electricguy_ oh lol! didn't realize i was still in here XD
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16:05 tonsofpcs *yawn*
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21:10 astro73|mal i hate assholes with privledges
21:14 masterofmonks Eh?
21:15 astro73|mal i joined a minecraft server, and they banned me for stealing from an abandoned chest. http://www.sgtekkit.net/threads/astronouth7303-ban-appeal.3658/
21:15 masterofmonks Ah.
21:16 astro73|mal and pretty much ignored anything reasonable i said
22:08 tonsofpcs astro73|mal: well, there's your first problem: "i joined a minecraft server"
22:08 astro73|mal haha
22:08 astro73|mal i'm a social gamer
22:09 tonsofpcs SecondLife?
22:09 tonsofpcs alternatively, IRC :-p
22:10 tonsofpcs IRC is a great game, it's like multiplayer notepad :)
22:10 astro73|mal i'm also pretty poor, and SL doesn't appeal to me the same way
22:10 tonsofpcs idk, some people love SL.... I have no clue why.  I tried it twice.
22:10 masterofmonks Everquest 2?
22:10 astro73|mal i don't want to pay subscription fees
22:10 tonsofpcs CounterStrike with a team? (does that still exist?)
22:10 astro73|mal and i run linux
22:11 tonsofpcs CounterStrike with a team? (does that still exist?)
22:11 astro73|mal i don't like FPS that much
22:11 tonsofpcs (HalfLife is 100% OpenGL and runs just fine in wine)
22:11 tonsofpcs hmmm
22:11 tonsofpcs do people still run custom Ultima Online servers?
22:11 astro73|mal i LIKE minecraft. i don't want a new game.
22:12 tonsofpcs good luck with finding reasonable people then :)
22:12 astro73|mal apparently
22:12 tonsofpcs back in the UO days, you took something it was yours.  it was a player's responsibility to lock his stuff.
22:12 astro73|mal if i had space, i'd be running my own
22:12 astro73|mal (my desktop doesn't have a enough bandwidth or power)
22:12 tonsofpcs oh, and any 'theft' was dealt with in-game....
22:14 tonsofpcs I don't understand a banning for an in-game action (that isn't breaking/hacking/exploiting the game)... that's just silly.
22:14 astro73|mal oh, i found this whole thing to be obnoxious and terrible
22:15 astro73|mal and the ops on the last server i tried were absurdly childish
22:15 tonsofpcs like, when I used to social online game regularly, it was all UO on custom servers (which allowed for making your own stuff, kinda like MC seems but not on that scale) or Asheron's Call before it got screwed with.
22:16 astro73|mal minecraft doesn't have official servers
22:18 astro73|mal and i have no idea why he didn't try working in-game
22:21 astro73|mal i'm pretty sure in this case, he wasn't going to work with me
22:22 astro73|mal he's just an asshole
22:22 tonsofpcs it was probably his.
22:22 astro73|mal that's what i figure
22:23 astro73|mal although the way the other mod reacted, i suspect that it's how their server runs
22:23 tonsofpcs or he's just a douche (or both)
22:24 astro73|mal probably both
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23:50 Coderjoe I don't know if you still can, but you used to be able to run your own diablo (perhaps diablo 2?) servers
23:50 Coderjoe for multiplayer play

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