Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-07-13

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03:14 einball g*morning
03:14 einball 0513 in here
03:15 einball :<
03:19 SparkyProjects Most are on the official channel
03:26 tonsofpcs at 0513?
03:27 SparkyProjects They are chatting on the radio, it's on stream too
03:29 tonsofpcs w/e, they aren't us
03:29 tonsofpcs g'nite.
03:30 einball I don't care as Iam not an official member .. ;)
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08:09 Electricguy SO COOL http://www.wimp.com/monthspictures/
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15:08 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon peepz
15:12 * Experimentonomen is completely worn out and spent after a week of intense work
16:09 einball :-/
16:09 einball how come you work? :)
16:10 einball How come the captains blog is not daily anymore
16:11 Damianz Life?
16:12 Electricguy pfft! Chris got no life outside of TGG.. XD
16:12 einball how come my life sucks?
16:13 einball me neither
16:13 * einball wants to get that "RR!&S/%$ subwoofer running now
16:13 einball But I'll have to wait for the saw
16:14 * Electricguy likes his avionics radar module subwoofer
16:14 Electricguy 12" woof
16:15 einball building a sub is a little bit more than taking a chassis and putting it into a avionics module o_O
16:15 Electricguy no shit sherlock.. :P
16:16 Electricguy it's just that the module housing, which is made of extruded alu got approx the right volume for the sub i put in XD
16:16 einball ._.
16:17 einball I currently think about a electronics course I'll do next year
16:17 Electricguy and yes, i do know about speakers.. my old teacher was a audio geek.. so we made a few different computer calculated subwoofers
16:17 einball in my semester vacation
16:17 einball with an arduino
16:17 einball in school
16:17 einball but I need help
16:17 Electricguy we made one with a 6" altec lansing driver.. dude.. it was the most bad ass 6" sub i have ever heard.. XD
16:17 einball ^^
16:17 Electricguy was rattling windows in the big classroom
16:18 einball hehe
16:18 Electricguy 24 Litre box for that little driver :P
16:18 einball o_O
16:18 einball heavy excursion, right?
16:18 Electricguy with a 54mm long 60mm diameter port
16:18 Electricguy not very
16:19 einball 2cm?
16:19 Electricguy but after doing all the calculations of the carateristics of the driver and some tinkering around in software to get the curve right, we ended up with that box
16:19 Electricguy and DAMN. it was a little beast :P
16:20 Electricguy more like 12-15mm excursion
16:20 Electricguy we used WinISD for box calculation
16:20 einball reminds me of that pic -> http://www.abload.de/img/img_0700dmmpzsklyo.jpg
16:20 Electricguy very nice free program
16:20 einball hmm that's a nice low excursion
16:20 einball on top the 7" raptor
16:20 einball below my previous sub with 15"
16:20 Experimentonomen i tested an old 2x80W akai amp at work today
16:21 Electricguy nice einball.
16:21 Electricguy and nice exp :P
16:21 einball my next sub will be a horn
16:21 Electricguy TangBand make small beasty drivers :P
16:21 einball Oh yeah ^^
16:21 Experimentonomen at first i thought it was dead cuz it just crackled loudly and then went all quiet, but eventually i got some sound outtsa it
16:21 Electricguy this is pretty neat :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqrG4IDldRk
16:21 einball They made me shit bricks the first time I heard them
16:22 BotSteve Title: tang band 5.25'' subwoofer in T-line - YouTube
16:22 Electricguy LOL! XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnZZbqv6i4&amp;feature=related
16:22 BotSteve Title: Tang Band 5.25 subwoofers in a L-port box - YouTube
16:22 Electricguy totally bottoming the camera mic
16:23 Experimentonomen http://www.classic-hifi.net/wp-content/uploads/products/pro/1268360074151.jpg <-- that or a very similar model
16:23 Electricguy the sundown SA-8 is a damn MONSTER 8" driver
16:23 einball I'll go with nothing else than a horn with a 15" driver
16:24 Electricguy check this 8" :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Jyo22Hoss
16:24 BotSteve Title: Gigantic "Little" Subwoofer - Sundown SA-8" v2 BEASTLY Prototype - YouTube
16:24 einball and I'll build two of them
16:24 einball to get as low as 16hz at reasonable levels
16:24 Electricguy a hornloaded 15" would be pretty fucking big.. :P
16:24 Experimentonomen but super efficient
16:25 Electricguy how big is your room?
16:25 einball Electricguy: 2,40m height
16:25 einball 10m2
16:25 einball *19m2
16:25 Electricguy hehe yeah we had a kind of horn loaded sub in school. was a 15".. it was the size of a full size fridge.. XD
16:26 Electricguy wasn't very impressive up close.. but walk away about 15 meters and you puke your guts out XD
16:26 einball yup
16:26 Electricguy pulled it with a 6kW PA amp :P
16:26 einball whow o_o
16:26 Electricguy indoors.. in a school.. XD
16:26 Electricguy very fun teachers :D
16:27 einball http://www.volvotreter.de/thumbs/TH_aufgestellt.jpg << will be my new one
16:27 einball http://www.volvotreter.de/downloads/Eminence_Horn_Rev_0.pdf
16:27 Electricguy and yes, we did open all the windows to not shatter them XD
16:27 Electricguy oki
16:27 Experimentonomen horny horns ;)
16:28 einball I don't need that much room, because I'll never get enought to unfold the full potential of the two horns
16:28 einball but ... I think it will still be fine
16:28 Experimentonomen technically though that one is more of a transmission line than a horn
16:28 Electricguy yeah
16:28 einball I know :)
16:29 Electricguy of course you do. exp just told you :P
16:29 einball -.-
16:29 einball that's why it's called tapped horn and not horn.
16:30 Electricguy my sub is basically a 4th order bandpass with dual drivers
16:30 Experimentonomen does it suffer the dreaded "one note bass" them bandpass boxes tend to have ?
16:31 Electricguy nah this one got a damn wide register really. it's very nice for music, games and movies :P
16:31 Electricguy AudioPro really did a great job on it
16:31 Experimentonomen though audio pro in thr late 70's - early 80's were what brands like krell, accuphase and linn are today
16:32 Electricguy lol yeah
16:32 einball The problem is that you won't find many designs that go that deep
16:32 Electricguy this sub is from the mid 90's
16:32 einball (for free)
16:32 einball and I don't want to build such a thing by myself because that would be a waste of wood imho
16:32 Electricguy my sub goes down to about 20Hz.. :P though most of the bass in music is around 80-90Hz..
16:33 Electricguy LOL.. like a HORN isn't a waste of wood.. XD
16:33 Experimentonomen but how much have it dropped in dB from 100Hz down to 20Hz ?
16:33 Electricguy no idea
16:33 Electricguy but it sounds good.. :P
16:33 Experimentonomen but then again a music sub rarely see freqs below 50Hz
16:34 Electricguy very true
16:34 einball Electricguy: that's the nice thing. the volvotreter for example plays till 20hz without any big db drops to 100hz. above that my hifi speakers may take it.
16:34 Electricguy only when playing warped vinyls without sub-sonic filter XD
16:34 Experimentonomen it only sounds lower due to harmonics of the drivers, intermodulation and overtones/distortion
16:35 einball I will use it for movies o_O
16:35 einball I'd like to squeeze the LFE :-)
16:35 Experimentonomen for true LFE in movies, the Eminent Technology rotary subwoofer is the only way to go
16:35 einball wtf .. you want my window to break? :D
16:36 Electricguy a fun fact is.. when playing music, there is not much difference between my AudioPro sub and my cobbled together radar can sub.. XD
16:36 Experimentonomen if you have 20000 euros to dish out on the "woofer part" itself, then add about as much more for the motor, speed regulator and amplifier
16:36 Electricguy ooh i want one of those rotary subs :P
16:36 Electricguy little beasts :P
16:36 Experimentonomen its technically just a variabler pitch fan
16:37 Electricguy yep
16:37 Electricguy a small audio modulated helicopter :D
16:37 Experimentonomen so not really that hard to build, the hard part is minimizing backlash in the blade pitch actuators
16:37 Electricguy yeah
16:37 einball Experimentonomen: you may use any amp you want, the speed regulator is any driver for an AC servo ..
16:37 Electricguy it seems like it's a 3phase motor and a VFD
16:38 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Bkrypxzs4
16:38 BotSteve Title: Rotary Subwoofer - Worlds Lowest Freq Subwoofer - YouTube
16:38 einball The problem is that it will crack your windows when using it :(
16:38 Electricguy LOL yeah
16:38 Experimentonomen depends on how sane your volume setting is :P
16:39 einball not really
16:39 Electricguy or build this, take yor door door off and put this one in and use the room as speaker box :P http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Homewrecker/
16:39 einball it will break the 160db easily
16:39 BotSteve Title: The Homewrecker
16:39 Experimentonomen and blowing out windows isent as easy as it sounds
16:39 Electricguy cracking windows is pretty easy.. but BLOWING them out is harder :P
16:40 einball http://h13.abload.de/img/img_4177qihe.jpg for me it is o_O
16:40 Experimentonomen my dinky little billebro 10" sub at some freqs makes the room outright scary to be in, and still it barely vibrates the floor an d walls any more than the main speakers do
16:40 Electricguy crack, yes. blow out, not really.. :P
16:41 Electricguy you pretty much need an explosion to BLOW them out :P
16:41 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=Y1rZ9v7Dp4I
16:41 BotSteve Title: FIRST LOOK! Worlds Smallest 300 Watt Amp - Wallet Sized - Soundigital 250.2d - YouTube
16:41 einball these amps look like they could take quite a thing
16:41 Electricguy crude class D's :P
16:41 Experimentonomen that amp is a big fat lie
16:42 Electricguy nah. it's class D.. not a lie :P
16:42 Experimentonomen impossible to get 300W in a wallet size, even with class D
16:42 einball Experimentonomen: aha?
16:42 Experimentonomen for 300W, just the output filter would take up more room
16:42 Electricguy it's funny that class D amps basically are audio modulated switching powersupplies without the DC end :P
16:43 einball We have a class D in university with about 3kW for research. it's perfectly tunes and uses only a small metal bar for cooling
16:43 einball *tuned
16:43 Experimentonomen though that amp aint wallet sized, it about the size of a 2x50W class ABV car amp
16:44 einball Don't care
16:44 einball I just need a cheap 200-300Watt amp monoblock
16:44 Electricguy cheap = DON'T FUCKING LOAD IT DOWN! XD
16:44 Electricguy or it'll burn
16:45 einball not THAT cheap
16:45 Experimentonomen and steves wallet aint exactly small either :P
16:45 Electricguy 130 minimum.. :P
16:45 Electricguy thats about what a half shitty car amp goes for :P
16:45 Electricguy 130 dollars
16:46 Electricguy Steves wallet is more like a backpack.. XD
16:46 einball not like .. this one: http://www.de.onkyo.com/de/produkte/m-5000r-35270.html
16:46 BotSteve Title: Onkyo | M-5000R
16:46 Electricguy yeah Onkyo is nice :)
16:47 Electricguy i want an old PhaseLinear amp.. but dude.. if you are lucky to find one.. prepare to sell your house XD
16:47 einball that thing in bridged mode .. uuuh.. fear
16:47 einball but all in all those old Zeck amps are quite cheap
16:47 einball http://www.ebay.de/itm/Zeck-A-602-Endstufe-Poweramp-mit-600-Watt-/271013191033?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_TV_Video_Elektronik_Verst%C3%A4rker&amp;hash=item3f19a51d79 and they are passive
16:47 BotSteve Title: Zeck A 602 Endstufe Poweramp mit 600 Watt | eBay
16:48 einball and massive
16:48 einball they can be used as 2 amps because they are basically two amps :D
16:48 Electricguy this one bridged.. :P for a home sub :D http://labgruppen.com/media/downloads/product/PLM_Series_Technical_Data_Sheet_TDS_PLM10000Q_V13.pdf
16:48 einball you get the schematic shipped with, it's really nice
16:48 Electricguy you don't see that often nowdays
16:48 einball useless?
16:49 Electricguy ?
16:49 einball will play down to 40hz and then cutoff because no PA plays below
16:49 einball unless its very special
16:49 Electricguy change the damn LPF.. :P
16:50 einball on a DIGITAL POWERAMP!?
16:50 einball you simply CAN'T XD
16:50 Electricguy sure why not.. XD
16:50 Electricguy LOL! XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPlf7qAuUXg&amp;feature=g-u-u
16:50 BotSteve Title: Dinosaur Office: Bring Your Child to Work Day - YouTube
16:53 Experimentonomen lame that he tested those amps with a dinky 10" mac audio sub and not one of his own 18" monsters :/
16:53 Electricguy hehe yeah
16:53 Electricguy his SMD subs are fucking monsters :P
16:54 einball so Electricguy 130 minimum? Take that Zeck amp, it'll play down to DC because it's sooo rugged and sooo old and such an easy circuit ... and below 130 \o/
16:54 einball Technology to last :P
16:54 Experimentonomen i think he designed thatg distortion meter too, it sez SMD on it
16:55 Electricguy play down to DC? a DC coupled amp that cheap gotta be rare...
16:55 Electricguy a company called d'amore make those meters
16:55 Electricguy they are developing a amp "dynamometer" too
16:55 Electricguy pretty cool
16:55 Experimentonomen my lafet amp is dc coupled
16:56 Electricguy they did some test with a PA amp.. just changig to a thicker power cord got the output up some Watts XD
16:56 Electricguy nice
16:56 einball Electricguy: my last Zeck amp didn't even had a output capacitor :D
16:56 Electricguy amps rarely do
16:56 Electricguy but they got caps in the signal path
16:57 Electricguy preventing it from being DC coupled
16:57 einball As I uuhm, I don't think so .. unfortunately I sold the schematics with the amp so I can't look it up
16:57 einball :(
16:57 Electricguy it would surprise me if a DC coupled commercial amp was that cheap
16:57 Electricguy unless it's broken and burned to crap. lol
16:59 einball I like Zeck because they did their amps straightforward: HUUUGE transformer, HUUUGE capc, preamp and the main amp is also straightforward: 2n*** transistors and there you go =)
16:59 Electricguy thats how any proper amp should be made
17:00 einball Too bad, the Zeck Company is dead
17:00 Electricguy probably with a good reason
17:01 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/c6tA8.jpg <-- how not to build an amp :P
17:01 Electricguy :P
17:01 Electricguy put the caps outside of the case XD
17:01 einball the company was sold to another major company producing cheaper amps
17:03 Electricguy ah
17:04 Electricguy maxxarcade is building a nice big home stereo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyU67Vl2rgg
17:04 BotSteve Title: Audio Rack Progress 5-13-2012 - YouTube
17:04 Electricguy start watching at 2:50
17:04 Electricguy THATS a home stero XD
17:05 Experimentonomen a coworker at erikshjalpen used to have a system like thazt, two dual 18's, two 12's and 2 10's fed by some kilowatts of power, and he got that system for free froma  DJ friend that upgraded his gear
17:05 einball wow .. nice one ^^
17:05 Electricguy exp, lol ok XD
17:06 Lt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmzBf93PZxI
17:06 BotSteve Title: Fried PC2 - YouTube
17:06 Electricguy here he's knocking down stuff in another room with that system.. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B2WTNuyyBg
17:06 BotSteve Title: Knock stuff down with loud music - YouTube
17:06 einball but .. CROWN .. dafuq!?
17:06 Experimentonomen and get this,each dual 18" box was around 150 kilos, that dj griend is like a human crane, he took one box in either hand and carried them inside like nothing
17:06 Electricguy you gotta try to see if you CAN do it.. and yep.. he can :P
17:06 Electricguy Crown make nice amps
17:06 Electricguy the big bulge on the front is to make room for the trafo.. :P
17:07 einball uhm .. I only see them crapping out at 50Watts of power when they are rated at 5000 :D
17:07 Electricguy then there is probably something wrong with the speakers
17:07 einball nop
17:07 Electricguy Steve meade got Crown amps for his workshop stereo too
17:07 Electricguy pulling 2 of his own subs.. a couple of kW each
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17:09 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0KZYB5c9ZQ
17:09 BotSteve Title: Crazy Shop Stereo System 8' Towers 26 Speakers 10,400 Watts (Added PC, LED Monitor) - YouTube
17:09 Electricguy over 10kW workshop stero.. XD
17:10 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1QqIwmjkD4&amp;feature=relmfu <-- that is one big joke of an amp :P
17:10 BotSteve Title: A look around the GLI PRO XA3300 Stereo Rack Power Amplifier - YouTube
17:10 einball http://www.thomann.de/de/crown_xti_2002.htm << they just crap out
17:10 BotSteve Title: Crown Xti 2002
17:10 einball Or is it another "corwn"
17:11 Electricguy thats a totally different model series
17:11 Electricguy hard to compare stuff that are not even the same inside.. XD
17:11 einball well, its the only thing I know from "crown"
17:11 Electricguy LOL Experimentonomen XD
17:11 Electricguy fucking hilarious XD
17:11 Electricguy brb! nomtime
17:12 einball happy nom
17:13 Experimentonomen he was gonna send me the guts of that amp, but at the time i dident have the cash for shipping, and i never answered the last pm he sent me, and after that his channel status has been set to "unavailable"
17:13 einball :P
17:13 Experimentonomen prolly due to excess negative comments and downvotes
17:15 einball for me there are only 2 companies that make "good" amplifiers that i've already heard
17:15 einball Hoellstern and twAudio
17:17 einball One Hiellstern amp did drive two subs and two tops
17:17 einball *Hoellstern
17:17 einball And SUCKED THE POWER OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY POWER GRID O-O
17:18 einball Okay, I have to admit that there had been about 10kW on the first floor :D
17:19 einball but that was o_o
17:19 einball Imagine the amp worked at 40°C ambient temp and still pushed out about 6kW
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17:23 einball just ... MASSIVE
17:24 Experimentonomen i have a plugin for FL Studio called just that, MASSIVE :P
17:25 einball -.-
17:26 Experimentonomen -;-
17:27 einball weird feeling >_>
17:27 Experimentonomen why?
17:28 einball Music
17:28 einball touching music :)
17:28 * Electricguy returns
17:29 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtErDJIlIs I really love these lyrics :)
17:29 BotSteve Title: Zatox - My Life (Official Videoclip) [HD] - YouTube
17:30 einball http://9gag.com/gag/4750086 ROOOOFLLL
17:30 BotSteve Title: 9GAG - Laughed a little too hard at this...
17:31 * Experimentonomen listens to Linus Åkesson play the Chipophone
17:31 Electricguy einball.. http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/9Gag+a+shitty+rip-off+of+Memebase+Funnyjunk+Knowyourmeme+Icanhascheezburger+and+_50464629b46cec9a089943904f4c0360.jpg
17:31 Electricguy sadly, thats damn true.. :P
17:31 einball who cares? It's funny atleast ;)
17:32 * Experimentonomen kinda consideris emailing linus askin if he'd be willing to port part of it to arduino, if possible
17:32 Electricguy your defenition of funny is very unfunny :P
17:32 * einball thinks about getting the dust of his mixer and turntables
17:32 Electricguy Experimentonomen, do it! :) Linus is a very nice dude
17:33 einball Electricguy: maybe I use 9gag BECAUSE of such pics ;)
17:33 Experimentonomen but then again i cant really play anything on my midi keyboard yet other than that "twinkle twinkle little star" tune
17:33 Electricguy i LOVE this tune! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIxr5QLnXXs
17:33 BotSteve Title: LFF (Chipophone) - YouTube
17:33 Electricguy Linus really got piano skills!
17:34 Experimentonomen but he still does some errors in the chipophone vidz
17:34 Electricguy it's funny that the Chipophone is a MIDI device :P
17:34 Electricguy and there is a little microcontroller converting MIDI to 8-bit tones
17:34 Experimentonomen ya
17:34 Experimentonomen i want the midi converter part that makes the sound
17:34 Electricguy yeah.. it's pretty hard to play game themes flawlessly :P
17:34 Electricguy ah oki
17:35 Electricguy yeah that would be FUCKING AWESOME to have for Arduino
17:35 Experimentonomen well a arduino ported version of it, assuming the mega 328 uc has enuf pins
17:35 Electricguy yeah
17:36 Electricguy yepp. the ATMega he used got 28 pins. just like the Arduino
17:36 Electricguy amazing how this little thing can sound so cool.. :P http://www.linusakesson.net/pix/data/100720-1/DSC00036.jpg
17:36 Experimentonomen but the Q is if rthe mega328 has the required functionality in ram, rom, and such
17:36 Electricguy yeah
17:37 Electricguy he's using an old ATMega88
17:37 Experimentonomen ya
17:37 einball atmega88 is old?
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17:37 Electricguy yeah.. we used it in school about 4 years ago XD
17:38 einball thought it was the sequel of the successful mega8
17:39 Electricguy the 88 got 8kB flash memory
17:39 Electricguy the 328 got 32k
17:39 Electricguy so, pretty much a 32kB version of the ATMega88
17:40 einball ah oky
17:40 Electricguy so if you totally dump the bootloader from the Arduino and program it via the ICSP header you should be able to pull the code straight over to the Arduino
17:40 Electricguy COOL! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h42neZVvoMY&amp;feature=relmfu
17:40 BotSteve Title: Parallelogram - YouTube
17:41 Electricguy he's using one of Jeri Ellsworth's inventions :P
17:41 Electricguy the Commodore One :)
17:41 einball Ellsworth is a god o_o
17:41 Electricguy she's really cool :P
17:41 Electricguy i must have done something right.. cause she's subbing to my youtube channel :P
17:43 Electricguy Linus is a damn god when it comes to programming microcontrollers :P
17:43 einball omg
17:43 einball the music
17:44 Electricguy this is extremely impressive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCN1bqRG-7o&amp;feature=plcp
17:44 BotSteve Title: Phasor by lft - YouTube
17:45 Electricguy and in school i was like "FUCK YEAH!!" when i got some LEDs doing the knight rider light.. XD
17:45 Electricguy then i watched that video and whent like"oh.. nvm.. -,-"
17:45 Experimentonomen a knightrider was like the first thing i did when i learned how to toggle the ports on/off
17:45 Electricguy hehe :P
17:45 Lt_Lemming I scared my electronics teacher when I managed to get a verified 6Kv from 4 AA batteries :-P
17:46 Electricguy and then there is a Linus Åkesson.. who is a fucking GOD when it comes to programming microcontrollers... XD
17:46 Electricguy 6kV? XD
17:47 Lt_Lemming yup
17:47 Experimentonomen email sent, but i do not expect to get any reply what so ever
17:47 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtgJ4msYvY&amp;feature=related YAY
17:47 BotSteve Title: 2½ hours of Dubmood (chiptune/demo/keygen music) - YouTube
17:47 Lt_Lemming hand wound coreless transformer, 555 + MoSFET
17:47 Experimentonomen and its not like hes gonna do the port and send the .pde my way anyways, at most he may do it if i pay him like 500 euros or something
17:48 einball o_O
17:48 Electricguy exp, you never know :P
17:48 Experimentonomen and since he writes his shit in ASM, he'll prolly be just as dumbfounded in arduino as i am
17:49 einball hihihi
17:49 einball well .. It's amazing how you can do such things
17:49 einball Iam still amazed 'bout that thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d1G0pF9v5w
17:49 BotSteve Title: AvrX synthesizer - YouTube
17:49 Experimentonomen though its handy that u dont have to specify an input pin for the MIDI input when using the RX pin
17:49 Electricguy gah.. calling 8-bit music "keygen music" is like buttfucking your fat neighbour who's name is Bart, and claiming it's not gay
17:50 einball Electricguy: stop complaining and start to listen -.-
17:51 Electricguy i'm not complaining.. it's just that no one knows wtf 8-bit music is.. it's either "ooh herpderp! GAMEBOY MUSIC LUUULZORZ!" -,-
17:51 Electricguy or keygen music..
17:51 Experimentonomen hm i need more power supplies with usb jacks
17:51 Electricguy hehe :P
17:52 Experimentonomen running the arduino off the one i usually use for my camera
17:52 Electricguy buy a bag of USB jacks from china and a 5V 10A SMPS :P
17:52 einball ah yeah .. I think about 8 bit music when I think about gameboy music
17:52 Electricguy or like a 10 port hub.. they got external PSUs
17:53 einball for me it's the same. .. But Iam aware that there's more 8bit music out there
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17:53 Electricguy gameboy music IS 8-bit.. but all 8-bit music isn't gameboy music..
17:53 Electricguy lol.. Skrillex theme song :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZWglo5FQvU&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plpp_video
17:53 BotSteve Title: Press Play Walk Away - S3RL & Synthwulf [Emfa Music] - YouTube
17:53 Electricguy that track is funny and pretty nice :P
17:54 Experimentonomen my midi chiptuneduino thing is technically 1-bit music as its using only a single output
17:54 einball I want to build the midibox sid and the midibox seq -.-
17:54 Electricguy Experimentonomen, nope :P it's 8-bit. the CPU is 8-bit and you got a built in DAC in it
17:55 Electricguy einball, who doesn't? XD
17:55 einball Electricguy: I could instant ... problem is i dont want to use money on that
17:56 Electricguy this one is lovely :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyffClGnFN4&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=296&amp;feature=plpp_video
17:56 BotSteve Title: MIDIbox SEQ V3 Session 2 - YouTube
17:56 Experimentonomen step one: aquire a C64, step two: slaughter the C64, step 3: Take the sid chip out, step four: cut a alu/steel plate to size and screw/glue it over the hole where the keyboard went, step 5: drill the required holes and build the sid midibox in the modified C64 case
17:57 einball you don't even need a sid .. a CPLD will do the same *lol*
17:57 Experimentonomen Electricguy, its not using a dac, its just hard generating the 50% duty cycle square wave on an output pin
17:57 Electricguy ah yeah.. stupid me.. XD
17:57 Electricguy i was thinking of the ADC
17:58 Electricguy i LOVE this remix! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EwxItUGiDg&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=2&amp;feature=plpp_video
17:58 BotSteve Title: Danny Danger - Find Yourself (Weaver Remix) - YouTube
17:59 Electricguy got some nice disted melodic guitar/synth sounds :P
17:59 Electricguy really nice
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18:00 einball Can't the sid be amulated in a FPGS and/or CPLD?
18:00 Experimentonomen i wonder how many days linus needs from listening to a chiptune to beeing able to play it himself flawlessy
18:00 Lt_Lemming not with the same final sound quality einball
18:00 Electricguy nah the SID sounds very special :P
18:01 Electricguy if i remember correctly, even the different versions of the SID's sound different
18:01 einball err .. it's digital music, so it can be reproduced without any losses!?
18:01 Electricguy i don't know what it is that makes the SID special.. but it got a very specific sound :P
18:01 Electricguy and it also pulls about 1Watt.. yes, the SID DO get warm :P
18:01 einball to me it sounds like the rest of the 8bit music :D
18:01 Experimentonomen i think the sid chip had actual analog oscillators
18:01 einball Old TTL :P
18:02 einball The SID is a mixed-signal integrated circuit, featuring both digital and analog circuitry. All control ports are digital, while the output ports are analog.
18:02 einball hm
18:02 Electricguy it got analog filters though
18:02 einball hmpf
18:03 einball someone to make a remake and manufacture it
18:03 einball ^^
18:03 Electricguy a fun thing is that the volume control on the SID is only 4 bit.. :P
18:03 einball 16 levels .. enought
18:03 Electricguy yepp
18:04 einball I really like the sequencer more than the SID SYNTH
18:04 Electricguy yeah the sequencer is bad ass!
18:04 einball v4 got ethernet :D
18:04 einball and usb
18:04 einball ^^
18:05 Electricguy this thing is cool.. that box got 4 midiboxes in it if i remember right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GADLoV1dVc0
18:05 BotSteve Title: Foona - Bring Em Down "Im Your's" Riddim Dub LIVE session - YouTube
18:05 Electricguy that guy is awesome :P
18:05 Electricguy i bought my mini kaoss pad from him
18:05 Electricguy probably a better view of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UV9wGp-jE
18:05 BotSteve Title: Foona - Together We Sing Dub LIVE session - YouTube
18:06 Electricguy and amazingly beautiful build
18:06 Electricguy and the fun thing is.. he barely knows anything about electronics.. but he can read schematics.. XD
18:07 Electricguy pics of it http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb00.jpg
18:07 Electricguy http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb01.jpg
18:07 Electricguy THAT'S nerd pron :P
18:07 Electricguy http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb02.jpg
18:07 Electricguy http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb03.jpg
18:07 Electricguy http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb07.jpg
18:08 Electricguy even got a matching PSU :P http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb12.jpg
18:08 Electricguy aaand the whole kit! :) http://www.ptc-crew.com/assets/DIY/mb64/build/mbdbcb15.jpg
18:09 * Experimentonomen plays loud chiptunes with the balcony door open so ppl on the street prolly wonder what the FUCK im doing
18:09 Electricguy yay :D
18:09 * Electricguy plays aussie hardcore with his balcony door open
18:10 Lt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6xPEycTxHk <--- play that
18:10 BotSteve Title: DAMC - Night On Earth [Outback Drum & Bass CD] : Big Dog Records : Adelaide : 1997 - YouTube
18:11 Electricguy not a huge fan of d&b sadly :P
18:11 Electricguy i'm more in to this stuff.. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAIY5mVeHZY&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=10&amp;feature=plpp_video
18:11 BotSteve Title: Entity & Darwin - Your Own Destiny- YouTube
18:11 Electricguy the intro on that song is a bit long though
18:12 Electricguy skip about a minute in the beginning XD
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18:56 mashpriborintorg Hi, new street found stuff this morning
18:56 mashpriborintorg a garage door opener motor with 3 meter of aluminium rail :)
18:57 mashpriborintorg had to take it apart in situ, hopefully it was near my house, I was able to go grab tools
18:57 Experimentonomen u mean thankfully :P
18:58 Electricguy hehe :P
18:59 mashpriborintorg yeah
18:59 Experimentonomen i reduced the number of psus needed to run my chipmididuino
18:59 mashpriborintorg only a few bolts to undo
19:00 Experimentonomen wired the keyboard power to the "vin" pin on the ardu
19:00 Electricguy hehe nice
19:01 Experimentonomen and i really need to make a midi in shield, atm its all just wires twished together and jammed into the headers on the ardu
19:02 Electricguy look for arduino proto shields on ebay
19:02 Electricguy they are so cheap that it's not even worth building one as the pin spacing is fucked and that
19:08 Experimentonomen or even the midi shield
19:08 Electricguy lol yeah.. XD
19:08 Electricguy and a midi cable
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19:12 Experimentonomen augh uber expensive!!
19:12 Experimentonomen 18 bucks for the midi skield
19:13 Electricguy yeah it's pretty expensive for some reason
19:13 Electricguy a bare protoshield is cheap though XD
19:14 Experimentonomen but the protoshield does not have provisions for them DIN jacks, which make them a pain to put on the board
19:14 Electricguy myeah.. true
19:15 einball o_O
19:15 einball Got all components for the Pickandplace machine
19:16 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD9jabl-OW4
19:16 BotSteve Title: MidiChipDuino - YouTube
19:20 Electricguy i don't really understand what you are showing in that video :P more thna a midi keyboard hooked to an arduino :P
19:22 Experimentonomen forget i even mentioning anything about this
19:23 Electricguy why?
19:24 Electricguy just because the point of the video is quite unclear doesn't mean everybody hates you and cthulhu is going to come and nibble your toenails off
19:25 einball fuck it
19:25 einball XD
19:25 Experimentonomen i forgot i wasent gonna make a video until i was able to actually play something
19:25 einball I start to feel good xD
19:25 einball damn 8bit ^^
19:25 Electricguy lol
19:25 einball writing an article for my blog and 8bit go well together
19:28 einball www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9keAgRxfmI&feature=endscreen&NR=1 this is also a great piece of music
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20:53 Experimentonomen hmmm
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21:09 Experimentonomen g'evenin chippeh
21:09 LemPhone lo
21:10 Experimentonomen i might need help identifying a song i for some reason started playing while playing around the keyboard, i have no clue what it is :/
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21:34 Experimentonomen aight im gonna goto bed
21:34 Experimentonomen nite peepz
22:04 Electricguy bedtime. night
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22:23 Sasha_ Wow… Epson just reached a new low: you can't scan things if your ink has run out… even though scanning has absolutely nothing to do with printing………..
22:29 HighMan HAHAHAH
22:32 Sasha_ 4th printer in 5 years that I need to throw away...
22:54 HighMan .define palpitations
22:54 BotSteve palpitations — noun: 1. Plural form of palpitation
22:54 HighMan DAMN YOU
22:54 HighMan .define palpitation
22:54 BotSteve palpitation — noun: 1. An abnormal awareness of the beating of the heart
22:57 HighMan .g 1 g to mg
22:57 BotSteve HighMan: http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/milligrams-to-grams.htm
22:57 HighMan .c 1 g to mg
22:57 BotSteve 1000 milligrams
22:57 HighMan .c 1 mg to g
22:57 BotSteve 0.001 grams
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23:25 Toastdude @StopMakingSense:  No.
23:25 StopMakingSense ?
23:26 Toastdude I don't want to stop making sense. :P
23:27 StopMakingSense stop making sense is a concert video
23:27 StopMakingSense of the talking heads
23:30 StopMakingSense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE-mxVxFXLg
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