Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-07-22

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03:09 BatSteve BotSteve: tell toastdude that I said hi
03:09 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
03:09 BatSteve thanks BotSteve
03:09 BotSteve Happy to help, BatSteve
03:09 BatSteve BotSteve: tell katemonster hola
03:09 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when CSMonster is around.
03:17 HighMan BotSteve: tell BatSteve that HighMan told BotSteve to tell BatSteve hi.
03:17 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
03:17 BatSteve :D
03:17 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:17 BotSteve At 03:17Z, roadran422 asked me to tell batsteve that HighMan told BotSteve to tell BatSteve hi.
03:17 masterofmonks .
03:17 HighMan xD
03:17 BatSteve I like it
03:17 HighMan Thankyou :P
03:23 HighMan Wht the dots?
03:23 HighMan *dot?
03:27 Monkeh|Lap It's called a full stop.
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Or as you yanks will have it, a 'period'.
03:30 BatSteve This is called a bang!
03:31 BatSteve this is a hash: #
03:31 BatSteve Put them together and you get a shbang!
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Now you're delving into my world and it disturbs me
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03:54 Experimentonomen BOOYAH!!! PSX games now run on my psp! :P
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04:41 Lt_Lemming http://i.imgur.com/la8Ov.jpg <--- overkill much? :-P
04:54 Experimentonomen you and your KSP madness :P
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06:46 Experimentonomen g'mornin Electricguy
06:46 Electricguy morning
06:46 Experimentonomen my psp now plays NES, SNES and PSX games :P
06:46 Electricguy yay! :D
06:48 Experimentonomen the SNES one lags a bit though
06:49 Electricguy mkay
06:49 Electricguy yeah SNES seems hard to emulate good
06:49 Electricguy for example, F-Zero lags as heck on my JXD
06:50 Electricguy F-Zero is an awesome game otherwise
06:50 Electricguy it runs better on the GBA version though
06:51 Electricguy bbaib
06:51 Electricguy breakfast
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08:11 Experimentonomen ok im stuck now, dunno what do do, playing MML2
08:35 Electricguy for those that didn't see it yesterday.. a sloppy video of my server and that shit :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHUAfO8ae7k
08:35 BotSteve Title: My home server, FM transmitter, network and shite - YouTube
08:35 Electricguy Experimentonomen, google MML2 walkthrough..:P
08:37 Experimentonomen already did
08:37 Electricguy mkay
08:38 Experimentonomen atleast i saved before it crashed
08:38 Electricguy lol
08:39 Experimentonomen technically the psp doesent have the guts to run psx games, but it seem to do fine except it decided to crash after around 40 mins play time
08:39 Electricguy hehe
08:39 Electricguy due to overheating perhaps?
08:40 Experimentonomen dunno
08:40 Experimentonomen and the controls takes alittle getting used to
08:47 Electricguy my aircraft radar sub.. :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvYFXIEtDM
08:47 BotSteve Title: 12" subwoofer in Aircraft radar module - YouTube
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08:51 Electricguy LOL! XD http://www.n0.se/f/m/6dddb_1342889870.jpg
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09:10 Experimentonomen hm
09:10 Experimentonomen your camera doesent seem to record anything below 250Hz
09:47 Electricguy i know XD
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10:39 Experimentonomen who the hell is hive-mind ?
10:55 * Experimentonomen converts some videos to psp mp4 format
11:10 Electricguy hive-mind, why the heck did you have 11 clients connected?
11:12 Electricguy ah now i remember..
11:12 Electricguy hive-mind is that weird who pretty much spammed the crap out of the channel with ping timeouts and crap and refused to answer...
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11:17 Experimentonomen kick him! ban him!!
11:17 Experimentonomen :P
11:17 Electricguy lol :P
11:18 Electricguy if i remember correctly he got temporarily banned the last time. lol
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11:34 Electricguy hive-mind ?
11:36 Experimentonomen screwball :P
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11:47 Electricguy ffs hive-mind ....
11:51 Experimentonomen its prolly not even a person
11:52 Electricguy i start to wonder
11:53 Electricguy just PM spammed he/she/it :P
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13:18 Experimentonomen hm i have never played this game before and still i managed to own total ass in it :o
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13:36 * Experimentonomen is gonna make some delicious dinner today
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13:44 HighMan http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2ZQ5A4/3.bp.blogspot.com/-sMD58HLbWSA/Td5tqjFovyI/AAAAAAAAJ7E/urF1CQBt_18/s1600/craigslist.jpg/
13:44 BotSteve Title: - StumbleUpon
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14:13 * Experimentonomen watches more anime while making dinner :P
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15:07 Null_Route HOURS to transfer 133GB data. Need to move my VM cluster to SSD
15:08 Experimentonomen hm
15:16 Null_Route The VM is being read of 4 15k RPM disks -
15:16 Null_Route so, until my buffers filled up, it FLEW
15:16 Experimentonomen you need some 100k RPM dhhs ;p
15:16 Null_Route ...or just some SSD's
15:17 Null_Route and who makes 100kRPM disks?
15:19 Experimentonomen im pretty sure they exist
15:20 Null_Route havn't hear of 'em
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15:21 Null_Route 15k is as fast as they come AFAIK
15:22 injektion I got 15k SAS drives in the Fujitsu
15:22 Experimentonomen i made a 100krpm laser scanner once, unfortunately it grenaded at full speed :/
15:22 Null_Route :-)
15:26 Experimentonomen i think the fastest hdd i ever had was around 5000 rpm :/
15:26 Experimentonomen if not just 3000 rpm
15:28 Null_Route laptop disks are 3200
15:29 Null_Route desktops are 5400, although are sometimes at 7200
15:29 Null_Route SAN's start at 7200 for large, slow storage
15:29 Null_Route with 10k and 15k options
15:30 Null_Route A 15k disk at, say 300GB will run 1300USD - and yes, they still come in 300GB -
15:30 Null_Route when you set up a dual-parity RAID, then you'll be thankfull to only lose 2 300GB disks and not 2 2TB disks :-)
15:31 Null_Route ...and, anyway - when you compute the amout of data which can be read off the disks, there aren't enough read/write heads to access the whole 2TB in a speedy manner
15:33 Null_Route You don't want all of your applications contending for the same disk heads, so you're better off getting more small disks than bigger disks
15:34 Monkeh Null_Route: Uh, laptop disks are 4200, 5400, or 7200.
15:34 Null_Route I see they've sped up :-)
15:35 Monkeh Null_Route: Desktop varies (there are various AV drives with odd speeds), primarily 7200 with 'green' 5400rpm drives.
15:35 Monkeh Null_Route: Yes, sometime in the last ten years.
15:35 Null_Route haha
15:35 * Null_Route is old
15:35 Monkeh Apparently! ;)
15:36 Monkeh Null_Route: And no, a 300GB 15k drive is under $300.
15:36 Null_Route not a fiberchannel disk for an EMC san
15:36 Null_Route http://www.sanspot.com/EMC-CLARiiON-CX-Series-Fibre-Channel-Disk-Drives-p/emc-clariion-fibre-drives.htm?1=1&amp;CartID=0
15:36 BotSteve Title: EMC CLARiiON CX Series Fibre Channel Disk Drives
15:37 Null_Route granted, that's list price
15:37 Monkeh Null_Route: I have extreme doubts that the drive in there is anything but an ordinary SAS drive.
15:37 Null_Route no one pays list for EMC gear
15:37 injektion You want to know what else isn't cheap? A drive caddy for my Fujitsu server
15:37 Monkeh Yes, the caddies are stupidly pricy.
15:37 Null_Route Monkeh: they come off the same assembly line, but they are teh ones which come off the test line in the top few percent
15:38 Monkeh Yes, I know, they're binned.
15:38 Null_Route and it's not SAS - it's FiberChannel
15:38 Null_Route that's different
15:38 Monkeh Even if they do use a different interface, that's the cheap bit.
15:39 Monkeh And for 'fibre channel' it's distinctly copper.
15:40 Null_Route Monkeh: ummmm
15:40 Null_Route that's not the cheap bit
15:40 Null_Route when you have 4Gbit/8Gbit FC
15:41 Null_Route ...and while PARTS of a FiberChannel setup might be copper (for runs up to 1meter)
15:41 Null_Route most of it is fiber
15:41 Null_Route and fiber switches
15:41 Monkeh Just saying, it's not all that impressive.
15:42 Null_Route for home use, no
15:42 Monkeh Certainly doesn't cost nearly as much as they like to charge for the consumables (drives.)
15:42 Null_Route but when it's running hundreds of VM's....
15:42 Null_Route ...and that's true -
15:42 Null_Route it doesn't zost EMC 700,000USD to put together a Clariion CX4
15:43 Lt_Lemming yay for midnight TF2 session
15:43 Monkeh Drive's no different to a SAS one, just a different (admittedly much faster, and equipped with what appears to be a huge amount of buffer) interface
15:43 Monkeh Am I right in assuming these drives have write buffers on the order of hundreds of megabytes?
15:44 Lt_Lemming I was just playing on this rather silly server, my score at the end was 100/22 :-D
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15:45 Lt_Lemming lo mash
15:46 Experimentonomen g'aftahnoon mashster
15:47 Lt_Lemming when I hit 95 kills I set a challenge for the other players, whoever killed me before I hit 100 got a free item
15:47 Lt_Lemming way to make the ENTIRE enemy team gun for you
15:47 Lt_Lemming not to mention half MY team switching to the enemy team
15:47 mashpriborintorg sayonara
15:48 Lt_Lemming I got killed 2 times before I got my 5 kills
15:48 mashpriborintorg hum not sure anymore if that nea
15:48 mashpriborintorg means hello or goodbye
15:48 Lt_Lemming ...?
15:48 Lt_Lemming goodbye
15:48 mashpriborintorg fail then :p
15:48 Lt_Lemming yarp
15:49 Lt_Lemming konichiwa means hello
15:49 mashpriborintorg ah yeah
15:49 Experimentonomen tf2 sux ;p
15:50 Null_Route sorry - debugging java
15:50 Null_Route :-(
15:50 Lt_Lemming eh, I enjoy it Experimentonomen
15:52 Experimentonomen i find minecraft more interesting
15:53 Lt_Lemming minecraft is fine and dandy but daddy likes him some more bloody candy
15:56 Experimentonomen i dont like them shooters like tf2, diablo x, cod, cs and all those
15:57 Lt_Lemming eh, I enjoy them at times
15:58 Lt_Lemming I'm pretty good at them too :-P
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16:09 Experimentonomen ok this is weird, this video plays fine on my pc but alittle more than halfway in, my psp pauses it and freezes up :/
16:10 mashpriborintorg tearing down a DAT-72 drive... small stuff :p
16:12 mashpriborintorg very camcorderish mike tho
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16:17 Experimentonomen i dont think i've ever seen a DAT deck irl
16:18 Experimentonomen i did tear aparet a DDS2 deck once though, it was like a little subminiature VCR inside
16:18 Experimentonomen or DSS" or what the heck ever it was
16:20 mashpriborintorg yeah, vcr parts, smaller
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17:32 mashpriborintorg is it me, or the write speed onto micro sd cards suck pretty bad ?
17:35 mashpriborintorg I want to copy 2 gigs of data onto a micro sd, it's taking forever
17:35 Experimentonomen hm
17:36 Experimentonomen i copied 7+ gigs earlier today in around maybe 15-20 minutes
17:36 mashpriborintorg 3 files being copied, total write speed is 1.5 Mo/s
17:37 mashpriborintorg just like if it was connected through a 56k modem :p
17:39 Experimentonomen your sd card or usb interface is broken :P
17:40 mashpriborintorg I wait to see if it ends up or not
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18:16 Monkeh for fucks sa-
18:17 Monkeh There's a seagull in the house.
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18:37 Experimentonomen g'evenin chip
18:37 Chipguy evening
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18:57 * Experimentonomen yawns and waits for the washing machine to do its thing
18:58 Damianz It's boring isn't it?
18:58 * Damianz is waiting for the dryer run to finish
19:01 Experimentonomen well atleast i have my PSP to entertain me with silly cartoons while i wait :P
19:23 Experimentonomen Oops ran outta battery *jacks in*
19:29 Monkeh Myth: Turning the wireless on your router off will save you a lot of money. Confirm or bust?
19:34 SparkyProjects Possibly, but not a lot
19:35 SparkyProjects Unless someone is using your wireless and you are being charged for excessive downloads
19:39 Experimentonomen thats why u encrypt ur wifi :P
19:55 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I just busted it for the EEVblog forum. With the router I tested, you might save as much as £2.50 a year if the wifi's always turned off.
19:56 Monkeh If you've got really expensive electricity.
19:57 Monkeh The wifi chip amounts to 400mW from the DC supply (so add a pile of inefficiency at the SMPS).
19:57 Monkeh A nightlight costs more to run.
19:58 tonsofpcs in alaska and other places with ridiculous energy prices, you might save....
19:59 tonsofpcs but in those places you save money by turning LEDs off....
20:10 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, but at least in alaska they don't need to run freezers.
20:11 tonsofpcs in some parts they do...
20:11 Monkeh The boring parts
20:11 tonsofpcs and tthe parts that they don't, they still do because outside things get too cold
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21:46 Electricguy bedtime. night all
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22:46 Seroster .1/0.002
22:46 Seroster ,c 1/0.002
22:46 Seroster FUCK
22:46 Seroster .c 1/0.002
22:46 BotSteve 500
22:46 Seroster BotSteve, fuck you
22:46 Seroster .c 2ms to s
22:46 BotSteve 0.002 seconds
22:46 Seroster Hey look I was right
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