Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-07-28

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08:25 Experimentonomen g'mornin peepz
08:32 Thermoelectric Mornin' Experimentonomen
08:34 Experimentonomen *yaaaaaaaaaawn*
08:34 * Experimentonomen puts a module player onto his PSP
08:39 Chipguy mewning Experimentonomen
08:48 Chipguy gtg
08:59 * Experimentonomen listens to radio for once
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09:36 Experimentonomen blegh this cd player is so sensitive, a grain of dust is enuf to make it skip and jump around
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11:03 Experimentonomen g'day egg
11:12 Electricguy ahoy
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11:48 Chipguy meow
11:49 Experimentonomen meowoof
12:09 * Experimentonomen replaces the broken foot on the yamaha RX-300 receiver
12:14 Experimentonomen http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/AFR/RX300U.pdf <-- the PSU is grossly undersized
12:33 Electricguy it's probably calculated to perform as supposed to
12:34 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/J5yTq.jpg
12:34 Electricguy heh nice
12:34 Experimentonomen that cd player is really sensitive, the slightest grain of dust makes it jump and skip like a badly scratched LP :/
12:35 Electricguy that sux
12:35 * Experimentonomen listens to some really old tape
12:40 Electricguy it's funny that bakelite is REALLY hard rubber
12:42 masterofmonks Bakelite is awesome.
12:44 masterofmonks Which reminds me, I really should just break down and buy a Model 500 phone....
12:45 masterofmonks Rotary style, not any of that keypad BS.
12:46 Electricguy hehe nice :P
12:47 masterofmonks It makes my head hurt how many peopel don't even know what a rotary phone is, hell I have met people who had never in their lives seen a corded phone.
12:51 Electricguy haha yeah
12:51 Electricguy it's damn sad
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13:08 Experimentonomen whats with the LT, lemming?
13:17 Thermoelectric He was promoted!
13:19 Thermoelectric Yay for large scrollback. This is why! http://pastebin.com/00cTegmK
13:19 BotSteve Title: <kevs926> how do i explain to my cousin that this chocolate from japan is safe? - Pastebin.com
13:35 tonsofpcs howdy officer.
13:53 Electricguy LOL. funny song :P http://soundcloud.com/molgli/ginger
13:54 BotSteve Title: Chronical FX - He's A Ginger! [Release Date 30/3/2012] by molgli on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
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14:06 Electricguy lol.. a guy on a forum got a Corsair Carbide 500R case he wanna sell..
14:07 Electricguy it's just that for the money he want including shipping is one dollar cheaper than gettin a NEW one including shipping from a online shop.. XD
14:08 Electricguy i'd rather pay one more dollar for a new case than a second hand one
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15:14 Cprossu no kidding.
15:15 Cprossu at least you'll actually get all the case hardware with the new case
15:18 Experimentonomen while with the 2nd hand one u get nothing but the bare case
15:20 Cprossu the only time I grab second hand cases is when I am desperate, it's cheap, it's at least standard/not oem, I have a whole shit ton of case hardware, and it's $7 USD or less.
15:21 Cprossu which explains a few systems set up at the lab ;D
15:24 mashpriborintorg and if no case available, a modded beer container will do the job :p
15:25 Cprossu depends on the beer container =P
15:27 mashpriborintorg anyone that is full of beer :D
15:29 Cprossu your argument is invalid: 12oz beer can = beer container full of beer, but not big enough to hold a nano-itx motherboard.
15:29 Cprossu and a longneck made of glass also would not work.
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15:38 Experimentonomen i like beer but i drink responsibly
15:39 mashpriborintorg there are some alcohol free beers which taste pretty good now
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15:45 Seroster yo SparkyProjects, sup old man?
15:45 SparkyProjects Hi
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15:47 Seroster electricguy ya there?
15:49 Seroster SparkyProjects, http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3785178704916&amp;set=a.1613384131409.2081280.1140476802&amp;type=1&amp;theater  Whatcha think, old man? =P
15:49 BotSteve Title: Ivar Ryding's Photos | Facebook
15:51 SparkyProjects Not the way that i'd do it, are those bolts or screws ?
15:51 Damianz o.0
15:51 Damianz I hope bolts
15:51 Seroster The ones who hold the computer, bolts
15:51 Cprossu looks like a great way to cook your cpu
15:51 Cprossu your motherboard's hanging upside down, no?
15:51 Seroster No vents restricted
15:51 Cprossu doesn't matter.
15:51 Damianz Balance of fans is screwed
15:52 Cprossu also doesn't matter
15:52 Damianz If you saw how badly my heatsink copes it so does :P
15:52 Cprossu heat rises, you have a hunk of metal strapped to your cpu
15:52 Damianz Which reminds me, I need to buy a new heatsink
15:52 Cprossu it's worse if you have heatpipes...
15:52 SparkyProjects Seroster, mount a crossrail between the legs to support a shelf, mount a board vertically to also support the shelf
15:52 Seroster Nope, solid copper nugget
15:52 masterofmonks Cprossu, Hot air rises.
15:53 Cprossu indeed it does
15:53 Cprossu think about it
15:53 masterofmonks Heat radiates.
15:53 Cprossu hot air rises
15:53 Cprossu self cooks components
15:53 Seroster Cold air is sucked up from under and blown out the back
15:53 Cprossu there'll be a nice hot pocket of air that doesn't move
15:53 * Experimentonomen noms on cold dinner
15:53 Cprossu I've had it happen before
15:53 Cprossu unless you have delta fans in the front and the back
15:53 Cprossu it'll run hotter
15:54 Damianz On another note, I'm jealous of your hair - why do sweeds allways have nice hair
15:54 Seroster Damianz, shampoo?
15:54 Damianz Shampoo doesn't fix curling issues!@
15:54 * Experimentonomen steals the biggest cpu cooler he finds in Cprossu's boxes of computer crap
15:54 Experimentonomen :P
15:54 Cprossu yikes
15:54 Cprossu Experimentonomen: don't drop it
15:55 Seroster lol
15:55 Seroster SparkyProjects, those are the kinds of bolts where you drill a hole and beat the bolt into it
15:55 Experimentonomen its so hot at my place that my cpu goes to 50deg C with barely any use
15:55 Seroster It's flush with the table surface, for them to release they have to pull through solid wood. =)
15:56 Seroster The ends of the straps got three redundancy screws each
15:56 Cprossu Experimentonomen: if I am right, the heatsink you pretended to take weighs 620 grams (lol)
15:57 Experimentonomen hm
15:57 Electricguy sero, now i am
15:58 Electricguy Seroster, your way of mounting a computer is ideal for baking the hardware :)
15:59 Cprossu Experimentonomen: http://www.extrememhz.com/MCX478-V/MCX478-pic4.jpg
15:59 Cprossu http://www.extrememhz.com/MCX478-V/MCX478-pic3.jpg
15:59 Electricguy ugly :P
16:00 Cprossu effective though
16:00 Electricguy yeah
16:00 Electricguy brb
16:00 mashpriborintorg how the fuch do you clean this when it's dusty
16:00 mashpriborintorg *k
16:00 Cprossu with an air compressor
16:00 Cprossu but that was my old heatsink
16:00 Cprossu on a computer long gone
16:00 SparkyProjects What would be a good free screen recorder ?
16:00 SparkyProjects I don't mind a working demo, but i don't want the watermark in the middle of the screen
16:00 Cprossu I run a heatpipe cooler in this paticular rig
16:01 Cprossu good and free usually don't work together...
16:01 Cprossu I wonder..
16:01 Cprossu does Flash Media Encoder Live do desktop?
16:01 SparkyProjects I don't want great and free :P
16:02 SparkyProjects Don't know, but adobe do a screen recorder too
16:02 Seroster Hm
16:02 Damianz http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4870006_700b.jpg < lol
16:02 Seroster I remember something called livecam
16:02 Seroster SparkyProjects, http://camstudio.org/ there ya go
16:02 BotSteve Title: CamStudio - Free Screen Recording Software
16:03 Cprossu you could use VH Screen Capture and flash media endcoder live
16:03 Cprossu but meh
16:03 Cprossu a lot of resources wasted there
16:03 Seroster electricguy, börk.
16:03 Damianz Wouldn't it be easier just to pipe svido out and record it on another pc?
16:04 SparkyProjects gonna try camstudio
16:05 Experimentonomen wanna capture ur desktop ? use Fraps
16:05 Seroster That's the one I use, SparkyProjects
16:06 Seroster If I ever developed software I would add a line about "10 years of slavery" in the license agreement.
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16:13 SparkyProjects Seroster "camstudio coulld not record the AVI file using current compressor, Use default compressor ?"
16:13 SparkyProjects WHen i say yes, it keeps repeating that message
16:14 Seroster Never had that happen
16:14 Seroster suggestions Cprossu?
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16:27 mashpriborintorg you default compt
16:27 mashpriborintorg res
16:28 mashpriborintorg grrr your default compressor is the one it doesn't like
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17:13 tonsofpcs so if most of a community is without power and you're the power company - who do you send the press release discussing the outage and restoration to?
17:13 wannabe|tgg lol
17:14 tonsofpcs oh, it gets better
17:14 tonsofpcs (answeR: apparently you post it on the internet and hope people find it)
17:14 tonsofpcs then, in this press release, what do you tell people to do to ensure they stay informed of outage information and weather events?
17:15 wannabe|tgg check the internet!
17:15 tonsofpcs nope, listen to a battery-operated radio.
17:15 tonsofpcs (this is good advice, generally)
17:15 tonsofpcs but guess why this upsets me.
17:16 wannabe|tgg noone has one?
17:16 Damianz =You need a new cb?
17:16 tonsofpcs no, I'm sure people have battery powered radios
17:16 tonsofpcs Damianz: hint: I work for a radio  station that serves this area.
17:16 wannabe|tgg no power
17:17 Damianz They want to charge the power comapny to broadcast info?
17:17 Electricguy i don't like Chris.. he just had to be cocky as hell just because i said it might be a good idea to reform the old caps they were tinkering with in the latest CB
17:17 tonsofpcs ^^^^ yes, the radio stations don't have power.   They rescinded the estimated restoration time for one of the transmitter hills in town and the other is late TOMORROW night.  power has been out since thursday.
17:17 wannabe|tgg they were cleaning them.  eg: tahts typical chris....
17:18 wannabe|tgg tonsofpcs, why don't you have a backup generator?
17:19 Damianz Once does not simply plug a generator into the distribution board for the building
17:19 tonsofpcs wannabe|tgg: this area is so small that the hospital didn't even have their own backup power...
17:19 wannabe|tgg ...
17:20 tonsofpcs while I appreciate that we are the way to notify the public, it generally isn't a financially viable option for anyone in the community in question.
17:20 Damianz Most hospital proceedure for power outages around here involve flashlights
17:21 tonsofpcs The group I work for does have backup power on our systems that are used to disseminate emergency information in our primary coverage area (as well as for the systems that disseminate emergency information to other communicatons facilities).
17:23 tonsofpcs I mean, I don't care that /we/ don't have power there.  If we were the only one without power, I wouldn't be bitching so rabidly, but we're not -- as far as I can tell from here, none of the areas in town where radio transmitters are have power.
17:25 tonsofpcs then, of course, we actually had a call from a guy who was angry that we were off the air.  When explained "oh, a tornado ripped through town and took out power to 90% of the region" he got further upset because "well you could have broadcast that so we would know" ....
17:26 Damianz lol
17:26 tonsofpcs (from how it was described to me -- i didn't get the call -- he was just upset that he was missing his favorite show, he couldn't care less about the situation)
17:27 \_Obtuse most of the time you can just get the show's podcast
17:27 Damianz Who needs repeaters, just get more power and destroy everyone elses comms near by :D
17:28 tonsofpcs Damianz: I prefer to emit a clean spectrum and not wipe out others' comms.
17:32 Damianz Radio waves are a little weird in general =/
17:33 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks
17:34 wannabe|tgg thumper!  *waits*
17:34 wannabe|tgg *jumped*
17:34 lwq1996 XD
17:35 * wannabe|tgg steals lwq1996's banananananana chips
17:36 lwq1996 wrong channel
17:37 wannabe|tgg http://static.thepioneerwoman.com/files/2012/07/weird.jpg
17:37 wannabe|tgg no, i can steal them here if i want, damnit!
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17:39 Seroster Vlrk
17:39 Seroster BÖRK
17:39 wannabe|tgg hi sero!
17:40 Damianz For something that boden called a tampon his description was freaking huge... must have some serious girth issues
17:41 wannabe|tgg ...?
17:43 Damianz black vibrating tampons of science
17:43 wannabe|tgg i don't even want to know :P
17:44 * Experimentonomen lazies in his chair with one leg on the arm rest
17:45 Damianz http://youtu.be/LKNq6MGByQM?t=16m20s <
17:45 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 7-27-2012 Steadicam, Classic Arcade Games, and High Energy Physics - YouTube
17:46 wannabe|tgg ahhhh a cb i haven';t see
17:46 wannabe|tgg n
17:46 * wannabe|tgg sits at front desk and watches
17:48 Seroster Whatcha want, wannabe?
17:48 wannabe|tgg nothing from you, why?  i'm just saying hi....
17:49 Experimentonomen hm im hearing weird noises from the outdoors, like someone is mumbling into a PA system
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17:56 Experimentonomen g'evenin mash
17:56 Experimentonomen or shall i call u "frenchie" ? ;)
17:57 wannabe|tgg lol i used to
17:57 wannabe|tgg but angy is french too :/
17:57 wannabe|tgg 11:30a
17:57 wannabe|tgg wrong box
17:57 Experimentonomen speaking of angy, i havent seen him around in quite some time
17:57 Damianz maybe he angry
17:58 mashpriborintorg gf closed the laptop cover
17:59 Seroster nah he french
17:59 wannabe|tgg lol i think he's too busy working
17:59 mashpriborintorg so, I have a very practical question about steadycams
17:59 Seroster Yes... He french.
18:00 mashpriborintorg what if you need to pee while you are wearing the steadycam outfit ?
18:01 Damianz Jeans have zips
18:01 wannabe|tgg lol
18:01 wannabe|tgg for men, yes
18:01 Seroster Hold it.
18:02 Experimentonomen mash, just pee in ur pants and clean up after the shoot :P
18:02 wannabe|tgg itl ooks to be only around his top.....
18:03 wannabe|tgg i just scared amy's kids....oops
18:03 Damianz lol
18:06 Experimentonomen did u sneeze loudly ?
18:06 wannabe|tgg no, i asked them if they signed in (which they didn't, if they did i wouldn't have to ask....
18:06 wannabe|tgg new security measures....
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18:08 Damianz "No pass no entry", *chases out with baseball bat*
18:08 Damianz Can see how that may be scary
18:08 wannabe|tgg yep
18:10 Experimentonomen *yawn*
18:10 wannabe|tgg i just did.  i got 11? hours of sleep....and i'm still tired
18:10 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: the steadicam itself attaches to a harnass that you wear.  It can be removed from the harnass.
18:11 tonsofpcs wannabe|tgg: signed in?
18:11 wannabe|tgg yes.  when you walk through our doors you come find me in the front office and i shove your name, the date, and the time into an .ods sheet
18:12 wannabe|tgg how many caps do they need for mini thumper?
18:12 Damianz Depends how mini
18:12 tonsofpcs doors? I think I walked in the garage :-p
18:12 Electricguy how long is a string?
18:12 tonsofpcs depends how big the caps are
18:12 wannabe|tgg they are blue
18:12 tonsofpcs Electricguy: depends where you cut it.
18:13 Damianz LOL
18:13 wannabe|tgg in the 7/27 cap blog
18:13 wannabe|tgg tonsofpcs, thats still a garageDOOR
18:13 tonsofpcs :)
18:13 Damianz "how big" = "blue"
18:13 wannabe|tgg 200kva?  i don't KNOW
18:13 wannabe|tgg i just sit at the desk, damnit
18:13 Electricguy oh, and DON'T point out that it's a good idea to reform the caps
18:13 tonsofpcs Damianz: is it sad that this tells me that they're within 1/2" dia and 5" dia and between 1" tall and about 10" tall?
18:13 Damianz yeap
18:13 Electricguy i already did and Chris had to be really fucking cocky just because i pointed it out -,-
18:14 Damianz But if I really wanted to know I'd go dig out the thumper specs :P
18:14 wannabe|tgg i told you thats how chris is, he's a cocky asshole
18:14 tonsofpcs Electricguy: no, Chris had to be really cocky because Chris is Chris.
18:14 Electricguy yeah. cause Chris knows everything there is to know and is best in the world at it too :)
18:14 tonsofpcs your pointing something out just gave him something to talk about while being cocky.
18:14 wannabe|tgg yep /sarcasm
18:15 Damianz Electricguy: You mean you don't like having a cap short on you? :)
18:15 Electricguy his sarcasm isn't very nice against people who try to be helpful though
18:16 wannabe|tgg yes, i know
18:16 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: http://www.steadicam.com/tiffen_support.html - "Ask the Professor" :)
18:16 BotSteve Title: Tiffen Support
18:16 tonsofpcs s/who try to be helpful//
18:17 tonsofpcs s/  //
18:17 Electricguy well, if TGG want to have a shower in electrolyte and get aluminum pieces in their bodies, it's not my problem.. :) but i did point out that it might be good to reform old caps before use :)
18:17 Damianz It's fine against cats? Poort cats
18:17 mashpriborintorg thanks :p
18:17 Electricguy especially high voltage ones
18:17 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: I want to read the e-mail you get back, btw :)
18:17 mashpriborintorg lol
18:18 Damianz IIRC the caps they use for thumper aren't really designed for that usage, wouldn't be surprising if they sprayed the contents over the rack one day
18:18 Electricguy yeah
18:18 Electricguy they are not pulse caps
18:19 tonsofpcs anyway, I bet you just get someone to lift it off the main post -- if you look at a picture of one you'll see it's a harnass with a post almost like one of those flag holders only much heavier duty.
18:19 tonsofpcs http://www.tiffen.com/steadicam_gallery_710.html
18:19 BotSteve Title: Steadicam Gallery 710
18:19 tonsofpcs I've never used anything bigger than a mini merlin (or whatever they call the one yuo just kinda hold away from you like it's a bowl of rotten fruit)
18:20 Damianz The guys that do them with like studio sized cameras and external monitors are insane
18:21 tonsofpcs right, that's what a real steadicam is.
18:21 tonsofpcs also, they don't use 'studio' cameras, they use 'field' cameras
18:21 tonsofpcs studio cameras are big boxes.
18:21 Electricguy LOL! Steadicam and Segway :D
18:21 Electricguy 2x awesome
18:22 * Damianz sticks with photos
18:22 wannabe|tgg ..
18:23 Electricguy segway with offroad wheels = great fun :P
18:23 tonsofpcs Electricguy: yes, that's a steadiseg.
18:23 Electricguy lol XD
18:23 wannabe|tgg i've ridden a segway.
18:23 Damianz Segways look fun
18:23 tonsofpcs http://fstoppers.com/segway-steadicam-steadiseg-everything
18:23 BotSteve Title: Segway + Steadicam = Steadiseg > Everything | Fstoppers
18:24 Electricguy the one with big offroad wheels is much more fun than the regular one :D
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18:24 wannabe|tgg interesting
18:24 tonsofpcs you can actually see the mounting point on the steadiseg in that video.  same thing that's in the vest,, only it's on a post.
18:24 Electricguy hehe handy :P
18:33 * Experimentonomen powered up an old tube radio chassie has had laying around
18:33 mashpriborintorg without reforming the caps ? :p
18:34 Damianz Did it smoke?
18:34 Experimentonomen as long as the rectifier tube doesent light up, its fine
18:34 Experimentonomen no red anodes so its ok
18:35 Experimentonomen but i seem to be outta ECC85's :/
18:35 Damianz Can you even still easily get hold of those?
18:36 Experimentonomen i used to have a bunch but i guess i fed all of them to the IH
18:36 mashpriborintorg tube radios are still pretty easy to find in fleamarkets
18:36 mashpriborintorg it makers a long time I did not see any tube tv tho
18:37 mashpriborintorg the last tube TV  I saw was in the street on garbage day... it must be 10 years ago at least
18:38 Experimentonomen there are no tube tvs left, their all been scrapped
18:38 tonsofpcs tube tv as in tube-based bias amps and such or one that uses a CRT for display?
18:39 mashpriborintorg the only left must be owned by collectors... or forgotten in soma attics
18:39 mashpriborintorg yeah
18:39 Experimentonomen it feels kinda weird to play 666 - Paradoxx on a EL84 :P
18:39 mashpriborintorg tube rectifier for HT also
18:39 tonsofpcs it'd be even weirder to play 555
18:40 Experimentonomen i can do that too, i'll just hook up my midi input arduino and play some smoke on the water in glorious square wave :P
18:41 mashpriborintorg tonsofpcs, you mey find some neat tube tvs samples here http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/index.html
18:41 BotSteve Title: MARCELS TV MUSEUM
18:41 Electricguy or the Arduino with the hardware chiptune project.. :P
18:43 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: alternatively, just put the steadicam down when you go to the restroom: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/745710-REG/Steadicam_SMOOTHEE_APPLIP4_Smoothee_for_iPhone_4.html ;)
18:43 BotSteve Title: Steadicam Smoothee for iPhone 4 or 4S SMOOTHEE-APPLIP4 B&H Photo
18:46 tonsofpcs we've got an older one in this style on set at work: http://www.tvhistory.tv/1955-Philco-TV123-color.JPG
18:47 mashpriborintorg nice things but they are too bulky, I cannot start to collect them, no way
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19:14 mashpriborintorg seems there is a new yt channel with extreme teardowns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0OlWmr5R10
19:14 BotSteve Title: Extreme Teardown: FLIR IR Security Camera - YouTube
19:15 mashpriborintorg some Mikeselectristuff fan making his own videos
19:15 mashpriborintorg gonna subscribe :p
19:16 Electricguy oh nice :P
19:19 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBsLzgfzfkc
19:19 BotSteve Title: Old tube radio chassis - YouTube
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19:27 wannabe|tgg can some op please kick my nick at home....
19:29 masterofmonks wannabe|tgg, I can kick it, but it will still be on the server.
19:29 wannabe|tgg will it still try to join?
19:29 masterofmonks Possibly, we can see.
19:29 wannabe-afk was kicked by masterofmonks: wannabe-afk
19:29 wannabe|tgg otherwise i can log in via teamviewer and /quit it
19:29 masterofmonks Apparently not.
19:30 * Damianz gives wannabe-afk a cookie
19:30 wannabe|tgg it'll take a minute for it to try to rejoin...i have my setting set oddly :P
19:30 * wannabe|tgg takes the cookie from wannabe-afk
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19:31 wannabe|tgg bah
19:31 wannabe|tgg ok
19:31 wannabe|tgg i'll log in
19:31 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;v=fkovoUqO8pk&amp;NR=1 <-- hm that melody sounds kinda familiar but i cant remember where i've heard it before
19:31 BotSteve Title: Trance - Military Storm - YouTube
19:31 Electricguy hmm,, yeah it does
19:31 Electricguy annoying XD
19:31 * wannabe-afk eats Damianz
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19:32 wannabe|tgg there.  hi injektion
19:33 injektion Does anyone here have a working 486 I can buy off of them?
19:33 Electricguy check ebay
19:33 wannabe|tgg you can ask zozo in the other channel if tgg has one, but i highly doubt it
19:34 injektion Electricguy: I don't want to pay 300USD for a 486
19:34 Electricguy if you have to pay that much you are buying the wrong machine.. lol
19:34 masterofmonks injektion, How much are you willing to pay?
19:34 Electricguy and if it's a collectors item that cost that much on ebay it's probably going to cost the same everywhere else
19:35 injektion masterofmonks: it all depends on what options it has
19:35 Experimentonomen and shipping is prolly gonna be 300 bucks alone since those old machines tend to weight like 25-55 kilos
19:36 masterofmonks injektion, I may have one complete with monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
19:36 injektion CD-ROM?
19:36 masterofmonks Maybe.
19:36 Experimentonomen did cd-rom even exist back in the 486 days ?
19:37 Electricguy yes
19:37 injektion http://goput.it/p2s.jpg
19:37 wannabe|tgg .g 486 computer
19:37 BotSteve wannabe|tgg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80486
19:37 Electricguy intel 486
19:37 Electricguy it's a CPU
19:37 masterofmonks I would have to check and it's raining, and I don't care to get wet going to the storage.
19:38 injektion I don't need a monitor
19:38 * Experimentonomen gives monks an umbrella
19:38 mashpriborintorg and stepping from 486 SX 33 to 486 DX 4-100 was a HUGE upgrade
19:38 masterofmonks Experimentonomen, Otherwise known as a lightning rod.
19:40 masterofmonks injektion, I will check later and get back with you, last I saw it ran fine, but it has been sitting in storage for ~3 years.
19:40 injektion I've had it with that 486 the second I put in a new FDD and it said incorrect drive type
19:41 Experimentonomen i thred away all my old pc stuff years ago, why keep such junk ?
19:41 Experimentonomen threw*
19:41 injektion I want some experience with non-plug and play hardware
19:42 Experimentonomen stuff ewas almost more plug & play back then than now
19:42 tonsofpcs 4-100!
19:42 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: also, I had a 386 with a CDROM drive
19:42 tonsofpcs and I do have a 286 with a CDROM drive
19:42 tonsofpcs http://www.tonsofpcs.com/portable3/ :D
19:42 BotSteve Title: Compaq Portable III
19:42 Experimentonomen i barely saw a 3.5" hdd until pentium days
19:43 Experimentonomen and i dident even know cd-rom existed until i got a pentium macxhine that had a cd-rom
19:43 Experimentonomen before then,.. the only cd i knew existed was the one in my grandmas livingroom
19:44 Electricguy tonsofpcs, LOL! nice ghetto hack XD
19:44 Electricguy a shame on such a machine though
19:45 Electricguy exp, the Compaq SLT286 i had was supplied with a 20MB 3.5" drive :P
19:45 masterofmonks tonsofpcs, Ever seen a Kaypro II?
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19:49 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPE4SgqAYw8&amp;feature=g-vrec <-- that i've definately NEVER seen before
19:49 BotSteve Title: NEC MultiSpin 4-disc CD-ROM changer drive - YouTube
19:49 Electricguy me neither
19:49 Electricguy but i really want one :P
19:49 Electricguy i wonder how long it is.. :P
19:49 Experimentonomen i wonder how it even changes between the discs
19:49 Experimentonomen unless its double the depth of a normal cd-rom drive
19:50 Electricguy yeah thats my bet
19:50 Electricguy cause regular drives are damn crowded inside
19:50 injektion I've seen one of those CD-ROM changers. The library used to have one
19:50 injektion They were for the computers that you could search through magazines with
19:50 injektion And other publications
19:51 Experimentonomen so its pretty useless for the average home pc ?
19:51 Experimentonomen i mean the cd player software would have to have a software cd-changer utility
19:53 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: CD changers are not new, they have them for cars, it's not much of a step to have cdrom changers
19:53 injektion I want a laser disc player
19:54 Experimentonomen http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/CD-ROM+changer <-- suprisingly enuf it is the same size as a regulat cd-rom drive
19:54 BotSteve Title: CD-ROM changer definition of CD-ROM changer in the Free Online Encyclopedia.
19:55 * Damianz yawns
19:55 Experimentonomen Damianz, i've been yawning for hours already ;p
19:55 Damianz Some bugger woke me up too earlier so I've been tired all day :(
19:56 Damianz Silly people playing with remote control cars next door
19:58 injektion http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINDOWS-ON-SCIENCE-PHYSICAL-SCIENCES-VOL-1-2-3-/330765638514?pt=US_Texbook_Education&amp;hash=item4d032b1b72#ht_1716wt_1180
19:58 BotSteve Title: WINDOWS ON SCIENCE--PHYSICAL SCIENCES VOL.1 2 3 | eBay
19:58 Damianz TOO MANY CAPS
19:59 tonsofpcs WHAT?
19:59 tonsofpcs sorry, my ears hurt
20:00 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: yea, we have 6-disc changer CDDA players at work.
20:00 tonsofpcs there's a caddy you load them in and it opens one half-way to read it.  It stays in the cadd while it spins
20:01 injektion http://www.yotasandjeeps.com/WendcoeBay/Wendcovideo/Jpgs4ebaypage/PioneerDRM604XCDchanger1/PioneerDRM604CDchangereBay.JPG
20:01 tonsofpcs not that, but same caddy design.
20:02 tonsofpcs you can hear the kerchunk when they change discs as a servo puts the first back and opens the second
20:03 Experimentonomen i know that casette type cd changer
20:03 Experimentonomen we have one for sale at work
20:03 Experimentonomen first time i encouter a cd changer that require u to put the discs in upside down
20:04 tonsofpcs turn the caddy over
20:04 Electricguy we got one of these 100+1 Pioneer CD changers here :P
20:04 Electricguy not used.. lol
20:05 Electricguy it's slightly overkill nowdays
20:05 Electricguy damn cool machine though
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20:06 Electricguy a pioneer PD-F906
20:06 Electricguy damn big unit :P
20:07 Electricguy and can hold a total of 80GB of storage :P
20:08 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKuAk0wYSM&amp;feature=plcp <-- LOOOL 20 watts input XD like a watt or less rms power to the speakers :P
20:08 BotSteve Title: 1993 GoldStar FM-22A stereo system - YouTube
20:08 Experimentonomen what a piece of shit!!
20:09 Electricguy Goldstar.. says everything :P
20:09 Electricguy IE. a LG :P
20:10 Electricguy hmmm my music folder is only a bit over 70GB.. :P
20:10 Electricguy perhaps i should burn it all to CDs and use the changer.. XD
20:13 Electricguy or just use my modded netbook with an external HDD as a jukebox.. XD
20:15 tonsofpcs mmm, oreos
20:16 tonsofpcs Lucky Goldstar, yes.
20:16 Electricguy yepp
20:17 tonsofpcs I need a new surround system but I don't know what to do with the old one
20:17 Electricguy sell it
20:18 * wannabe|tgg steals tonsofpcs' oreos
20:18 tonsofpcs wait, it's from 1993, why does it have the original cartridge?
20:22 Experimentonomen u cannot replace those, their glued to the tone arm
20:26 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/tY5JS <-- i did manage to perform a cart replacement on such tt, but u can see what had to be done to make it work
20:26 BotSteve Title: turntableproject - Imgur
20:26 tonsofpcs also, speaker impedance... need to find a site with a good explanation (and not one that just assumes resistance)
20:27 Experimentonomen a 4 ohm speaker typically dips to around 2 ohms at some frequencies
20:28 tonsofpcs j...
20:29 mashpriborintorg bedtime bye
20:29 wannabe|tgg night
20:29 Electricguy night mashpriborintorg
20:29 Experimentonomen cheap 4ohm car subs can dip well below 1 ohm
20:29 Experimentonomen while expensive high end speakers barely dip at all
20:31 Experimentonomen a good driver will be around its rated impedance with a peak at resonance and ramping up beyond 1kHz
20:34 tonsofpcs right, I'm looking for an EE journal level discussion of this.
20:35 Experimentonomen ieee.com should have something
20:37 tonsofpcs like something that discusses a 4ohm speaker as 5-j2 or something (this value completely made up as an example)
20:37 Experimentonomen Chipguy should know, if he could repair an amp with a good chunk of the board missing, he should have good knowlege in impedance
20:37 tonsofpcs (yes, I'm aware that the complex is probably more likely to be +j)
20:38 Experimentonomen after all he is a EE
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20:58 wannabe|tgg i randomly rebooted
20:58 wannabe|tgg anyone know why?
20:59 Electricguy automatic updates?
20:59 Electricguy Experimentonomen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flSzyGgt86Y&amp;feature=g-u-u
20:59 BotSteve Title: AE EP35 Hornyphon hifi sound project 6391 - YouTube
20:59 Electricguy Hornyphon.. :P
20:59 wannabe|tgg its the ubuntu machine  :shrug:
20:59 Electricguy funny brand
20:59 Electricguy oh.. Linux.. yeah thats why :)
20:59 tonsofpcs wannabe|tgg: check your logs
20:59 wannabe|tgg ?
21:00 wannabe|tgg where are they?
21:00 tonsofpcs /var/log/*.log and /var/log/*.log.1 probably
21:00 Electricguy ah Hornyphon is now Philips
21:01 wannabe|tgg no such place it says.
21:01 tonsofpcs cd /var/log
21:01 tonsofpcs ls
21:02 tonsofpcs then you can "less syslog" and perhaps "less syslog.1"
21:02 wannabe|tgg i see syslog and syslog.1
21:03 wannabe|tgg and .2.gz thru .7.gz
21:03 Damianz {2..7}
21:05 tonsofpcs right
21:05 wannabe|tgg btw i don't know what any of this means :)
21:05 Damianz Reminds me... I need to go check my logrotate config
21:05 tonsofpcs so the current log reaches a max size and .7.gz gets deleted, 6 becomes 7, ... 1 gets gzipped and becomes 2, 0 becomes 1, the new one becomes 0
21:14 tonsofpcs wannabe|tgg: aren't you at the lab? find someone who does to read the logs for you :)
21:14 wannabe|tgg lol  i'll see
21:14 wannabe|tgg they're all busy tho....
21:14 Damianz "Hey, come checkout my logs" may not end well
21:16 Electricguy it's funny with Raspberry Pi.. :P there was a HUUUGE damn hype about it when it came out.. now people got their Pi's and they don't know what to do with it XD
21:17 masterofmonks I am thinking about making a "
21:17 Experimentonomen im confused, on youtube GBA games seem to have voices but when i ran the same game on a emulator, it only had the text, goes the console has some speech synthesis the emulator doesent have or what ?
21:17 masterofmonks "secure" system from one.
21:17 Damianz I was playing with one the other day, guy I work with got one
21:18 Damianz Personally I'd rather get some arduino stuff and hack hardware
21:18 Electricguy Experimentonomen, i haven't found any GBA games with speech
21:18 Experimentonomen and its from more than one user so i doubt they did the voices themselves
21:19 Electricguy there are no GBA games with voices as far as i know..
21:19 masterofmonks What game?
21:19 Electricguy gameboy advance
21:19 Electricguy oh
21:19 Electricguy nvm.. :P
21:19 Electricguy EG is tired.. XD
21:20 Electricguy yeah it would be interesting what games.. cause it would be damn cool to have GBA games with speech :P
21:20 HighMan Well there were gba videos
21:20 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paq6S7WwUfI&amp;feature=g-vrec <-- yeh i know i might be addicted to that game series but still
21:20 BotSteve Title: Megaman ZX Advent - Aile Double Megamerge - YouTube
21:20 Experimentonomen i played this game ant i had no voices, not even in the cutscenes
21:21 Electricguy that gotta be added afterwards
21:21 Experimentonomen but every time i looked it up on youtube, it had those voices from the same voice actors
21:21 Electricguy the GBA don't have that good sound
21:22 Electricguy you sure it's the GBA version?
21:22 Experimentonomen well last time i looked for this game i was only able to find it for either GBA or NDS
21:22 Electricguy haven't seen GBA games with that good graphics either
21:23 Experimentonomen i think it was NDS since i dident download it as theres no point emulating a NDS game due to the dual screen dealio
21:48 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: Pi needs two gige ports.
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21:59 Experimentonomen Electricguy, seems like the us version does indeed have voiceovers while the europe version does not
21:59 Electricguy hrm ok
21:59 Electricguy have you found it on other games too?
22:00 Electricguy cause i have tried a lot of US GBA games and none have had voice
22:00 Experimentonomen i find it for ds only when googling, so i dunno where i found the gba rom
22:02 Electricguy mkay
22:02 Electricguy bedtime
22:02 Electricguy night all
22:02 wannabe|tgg night
22:27 Monkeh masterofmonks: It has been suggested that I ask you about the internals of my AC unit?
22:33 HighMan He's away... Napping
22:59 masterofmonks Monkeh, Yes?
23:08 wannabe|tgg him, sparky, and thermo are doing .....
23:08 wannabe|tgg i dunno what tho
23:09 Thermoelectric Trying to figure out why the compressor doesn't seem to be starting.
23:12 masterofmonks Ah.
23:13 masterofmonks My knowledge of the internals of an air conditioner is a bit dated, and to be dead honest any more if the compressor won't start, I go buy a new air conditioner, It's generally cheaper.
23:13 masterofmonks Which is precicely not the answer you were looking for I am sure.
23:26 injektion Did the compressor overload?
23:26 injektion Did you try cooling it off with a hose?
23:28 wannabe|tgg injektion,  check in other chat for what they are discussing

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