Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #webwork, 2012-05-07

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13:47 aubreyja joined #webwork
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15:16 JohnTravis aubreyja.  You there?
15:16 aubreyja Yup, sup?
15:16 JohnTravis Lunch?
15:16 aubreyja Us?
15:16 JohnTravis Egad.
15:16 aubreyja Oops
15:16 JohnTravis Transportation to Madison.
15:17 aubreyja Sounds reasonable
15:17 JohnTravis NExT has invited me to be a presenter at their meeting
15:17 aubreyja Fancy
15:17 JohnTravis I think that I present on Tuesday however.
15:17 JohnTravis So I have to be there on Monday.
15:17 JohnTravis That's why I might have to reconsider driving
15:18 aubreyja Ah, sure
15:18 JohnTravis My other problem is at the other end and getting back to pretend to be an administrator.
15:19 JohnTravis However I think it would be nice to drive up with you and to also not have to worry about booth equipment and airlines.
15:19 JohnTravis How long is the drive from MO to Madison/Winona?
15:20 aubreyja sorry, phone call
15:20 aubreyja Uh, about 7 hours
15:21 JohnTravis Are you in Columbia?
15:21 aubreyja right now?
15:21 aubreyja :) - yep
15:21 JohnTravis LOL.  No, then.
15:22 JohnTravis <Idiot>
15:22 JohnTravis ;)
15:22 aubreyja I try
15:22 aubreyja Let's see - when is our consultant training session?
15:22 JohnTravis Google give me 10 hours then.
15:22 JohnTravis Wednesday.
15:22 aubreyja just a sec
15:23 aubreyja from Columbia? I get 7.5 hours, at most 8hrs
15:24 JohnTravis 584 miles.
15:24 aubreyja 425 miles from my house
15:24 JohnTravis MS to MO is 10,.
15:24 aubreyja ah
15:26 aubreyja So we'll still be going up about the same time…hard decision
15:26 JohnTravis Let me ponder if I want to do it my end of things by myself.  Not that I can't but it would essentially take another day on each end.
15:26 JohnTravis Thanks
15:28 aubreyja Would it make sense to ship things to me and I can bring them up?
15:28 aubreyja I'm sure you can get reimbursed
15:28 JohnTravis We do have a budget for these things.
15:29 JohnTravis BTW, the projector works pretty well and comes with a wireless video attachment.  Haven't tried it out yet since it only works on Windows but that woudl be pretty nifty to not have a video cable.
15:30 aubreyja Ah cool - and it doubles as a home theater projector :)
15:31 JohnTravis I plan to try that out as well with my blueray.
15:31 JohnTravis and with my android phone via mini-HDMI to HDMI
15:32 JohnTravis I've used it once for several hours but plan to try to watch a bunch of movies or something for about 10 hours straight to be certain that there is no problem with running for long periods.
15:34 JohnTravis The bulb is good for 20000 hours and warrentied for over 6000 hours.  I think we should be good for several episodes of "The Matrix"
15:37 aubreyja sorry, student...brb
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16:14 JohnTravis mgage and aubreyja:  Just got email from Rob Beezer.
16:15 aubreyja great
16:16 JohnTravis Did yours come through yet?
16:16 aubreyja oh, just a sec
16:17 aubreyja yep, just saw it
16:19 aubreyja I'd be happy to go, it was a great experience last year, but (a) I may not be able to b/c I'm traveling a lot otherwise, and (b) I only think it would be really useful (for me) if more than one of us went….
16:20 JohnTravis For me, I'm teaching a summer school class.  Graduate helps but I'm now planning to do Rochester (arriving Wed. afternoon).  Not certain I can swing both or if I would even be helpful.
16:21 JohnTravis Mike mentioned that he was pretty busy but might be pursuaded.
16:22 aubreyja I think what you're doing is really pushing the integration forward.  (And afar you're the only one who has thought hard about doing this well and actually done it).
16:23 aubreyja so yes, you would be useful!
16:24 aubreyja say, we should send out invitations for cc2 this week
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16:40 JohnTrav_ Hey!  My client just blew up.
16:40 JohnTrav_ <wiping client from my face>
16:40 JohnTrav_ Last thing I got was cc2 invites this week.
16:42 aubreyja yep, that's all I said
16:44 JohnTrav_ Ok.  You or me?
16:44 mgage_ hi -- pretty busy but might be persuaded is still the answer for the moment -- I'd like to get someone new involved (oh I just got the invitation also)
16:45 mgage_ if you have time john I agree with jason that you've been providing content which is really important at this time.
16:46 JohnTrav_ My problem is that I need to learn some basic javascript!
16:46 mgage_ I also want to consider remote participation kinds of things -- if what's needed is technical expertise as opposed to motivation and extreme coding then remote participation might work
16:47 mgage_ what languages have you worked with John?
16:47 JohnTrav_ I've sent an email up my chain to be certain that there is no problem.
16:48 JohnTrav_ Not counting BASIC?  :)
16:49 mgage_ basic counts.  this is an online text they have been using in the CS dept here: http://www.webstepbook.com/
16:49 JohnTrav_ Not a lot.  C and Pascal from olden days.  Some Python.  I mostly have used MATLAB scripting in recent days.
16:50 JohnTrav_ I asked the CS folks the other day about their intro class and I may sit in this fall.
16:50 JohnTrav_ HTML of course, a little php.
16:50 mgage_ so python and C form a pretty good background for getting into javaScript.  the big difference from ordinary C is the use of objects for encapsulation -- and that is not such a bit deal
16:51 mgage_ python and sage use this encapsulation method a lot  so using it in javaScript is not a bit deal
16:52 mgage_ picking up basic javaScript would come pretty quickly I think -- the harder problem is learning your way around the libraries -- that is what has already been done so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel.  That's where it's really useful to have people tell you things
16:53 JohnTrav_ That's what I figured.  Just time.  I have three weeks before summer and was planning to either jump into perl or something so maybe this is a better start.
16:54 mgage_ perl and javaScript and php and python are pretty close really (perl looks a bit stranger for historical reasons)
16:55 mgage_ pick a project to do -- don't just read.
16:55 JohnTrav_ That's a good idea.
16:59 JohnTrav_ Jason:  Do you think we should also consider a few folks from PREP 2011?
17:00 JohnTrav_ ...and what about sticking an announcement on the WebWork Discussion page to see if there is any interest from  consultants?
17:04 JohnTrav_ http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Prep_2011_workshop_groups
17:51 JohnTrav_ aubreyja:  I have updated the Google Doc with text for a sample invitation
17:51 aubreyja just catching up (visitor for the last…hour…sheesh)
17:52 aubreyja I've got an exam review coming up in 10 minutes, I'll have a look after that
17:54 JohnTrav_ sounds great.
19:13 aubreyja Should we consider this: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/cfp/214
19:38 aubreyja Maybe Malcolm Harper (as a new guy to involve in this, see email)
19:39 mgage definitely -- he has expressed interest in developing techniques for finding duplicates in NPL
19:39 mgage among other things
19:39 mgage oops -- no sorry -- I've mixed them up --
19:40 mgage I'm thinking of George Jennings at CSU Dominican Hills
19:41 mgage Harper is also a good guy to get involved (Champlain College)
19:42 mgage Sebastien as well -- except that he's working on a degree so I don't know how much free time he has
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