Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #webwork, 2012-10-10

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19:52 Paul_Pearson Hi.
19:52 Paul_Pearson Nandor Sieben has requested that I submit the new discrete math problems to the National Problem Library in addition to what I've already done by submitting them to the OPL.
19:53 Paul_Pearson Is the NPL still in existence?
19:53 Paul_Pearson Is there a way for Nandor to easily switch from the NPL to the OPL?
19:54 Paul_Pearson In general, how should I respond to Nandor's request?
20:10 Paul_Pearson Hi again,
20:13 Paul_Pearson After looking closely at the Miami University of Ohio problems for differential equations that were recently given to me for submission to the OPL, I am noticing that many of the questions are not randomized (or incorrectly randomized using $a = random(3,4,5);)  Am I correct that this leaves us exposed to copyright issues?
20:17 Paul_Pearson Also, the quality of the questions is low in terms of formatting and style, and I am concerned that this lack of attention may be an indicator of substandard programming (e.g., re-using a custom answer checker without actually thinking about what changes may need to be made so that it works properly).
20:18 Paul_Pearson So, my inclination is to say that the MU Ohio diff eq questions are not ready for the OPL.
20:20 Paul_Pearson I would recommend that we try to get a WeBWorK PREP team working on upgrading the MU Ohio diff eq problems so that they will be OPL ready.  Does that sound like a reasonable course of action?
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21:33 mgage Paul_Pearson: that sounds reasonable to me.  focusing a PREP or some other workshop on it is a good idea -- the last I looked we could use more high quality DiffEq questions
21:35 mgage For Nandor -- it's not that hard to switch over to the OPL -- the biggest thing to remember is that you need the scripts in the webwork2/bin  from newer versions of WeBWorK (e.g. ww2.5.1.1) and you need to change the library version number to 2.5 from 2 in the config files
21:35 mgage the actual content is not yet that different
21:40 Paul_Pearson thanks mike!
22:01 aubreyja Hi Paul_Pearson - have you tried running check_problems_in_directory (or whatever it is called) on the MU Ohio problems? Maybe we can catalog some of the errors and ask that they be fixed by the authors.
22:03 aubreyja And, if a problem is not randomized and is an exact copy of  textbook problem, this is generally worse for us from the copyright point of view than if it were randomized. But, in general we only have to worry about applications, not standard 'skill exercises' unless they are very unique
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22:35 jasonu Can anyone help me with some questions I have about authoring?
22:37 jasonu Specifically, I'm interested in learning the typical workflow for authoring problems and ways of speeding it up.
22:56 jasonu I'm very familiar with Perl and Linux and have successfully installed the WeBWorK server.  I've also read through a good deal of the documentation on authoring in the PG language, but now I want to figure out how to speed up the whole edit, upload, debug cycle.
23:14 mgage jasonu: for quick fixes i still find the web editor interface more efficient.  For creating a lot of problems I suggest that you look at the client editor.  You can configure things so that you can edit in your favorite editor and have the problems rendered by WeBWorK via the webservice interface
23:15 mgage http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Client_Editor#.UHYBgxbuX88
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23:23 mgage jasonu: for quick fixes i still find the web editor interface more efficient.  For creating a lot of problems I suggest that you look at the client editor.  You can configure things so that you can edit in your favorite editor and have the problems rendered by WeBWorK via the webservice interface
23:23 mgage http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Client_Editor#.UHYBgxbuX88
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