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IRC log for #webwork, 2014-08-30

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03:19 Shdwdrgn is it possible to make webwork not be case-sensitive for the class URL?
03:19 Shdwdrgn I have as example here: https://webwork.colorado.edu/webwork2/Math1150-Fall-2014/
03:20 Shdwdrgn if the student doesn't enter the upper-case M and F, webwork can't find the path, and I was thinking when I had 2.5 running that this was not an issue
03:20 mgage that’s a question for the apache server and unix set up.
03:21 mgage I don’t know the answer off hand   —you may be able to set up an apache server so that it is not case sensative but most unix servers I know of worry about case
03:21 Shdwdrgn well I was initially thinging that as well, but the bad url does actually bring up a webwork error pointing to an unknown directory path
03:21 Shdwdrgn Course 'math1150-Fall-2014' not found: No such file or directory at /usr/local/webwork/webwork2/lib/WeBWorK.pm line 299.
03:22 Shdwdrgn I guess if apache converted every path to lower-case then it wouldn't be an issue
03:22 Shdwdrgn except it would be hard to change now that the semester has already started
03:22 mgage possibly
03:23 mgage the directories that are created for the course are case sensitive and on a unix machine this matters (if you were serving from a mac which doesn’t usually worry about case then you might be ok)
03:24 Shdwdrgn seems like that would be a good point in the code to just lower-case all class names to prevent this sort of issue
03:24 Shdwdrgn yeah we're running it from a linux server
03:24 mgage my experience is that urls are always or almost always case sensative — students might as well learn the realities of the internet
03:24 Shdwdrgn *gasp* you can't make them learn something!  That's cruel!
03:24 mgage :-)
03:25 mgage you can give them an html page with the course names on them — then they just click on the link and they never have to type a url
03:25 Shdwdrgn considering this is the first time it's come up over the hundreds of emails I've taken this semester, I'm not too worried about it.
03:26 Shdwdrgn yes they have pages for each class... this one probably typed it in manually from a syllabus
03:26 mgage I kind of recommend that actually — you can use the webwork front page but it might be bit busy — it sometimes better to point them to a static page that just has the relevent links
03:27 mgage some day we’ll make the error message page look less scary (it’s useful for debugging but not techie types get overly worried)
03:27 Shdwdrgn I think the instructors point their students to their specific page, but we've only got 8 classes listed on the webwork front page so it's not bad
03:27 mgage that’s fine — some places have lots of old courses listed as well
03:28 Shdwdrgn ah no, I hide everything that isn't from this semester
03:28 mgage good plan
03:28 Shdwdrgn I tell you, I just love the cryptic email... "I can't get it to load, what's wrong?"
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03:29 mgage yep
03:29 Shdwdrgn well let's start out with I don't even know which homework program you're trying to get to?
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11:58 Topic for #webwork is now WeBWorK (http://webwork.maa.org) is an open-source online homework system for math and sciences courses. WeBWorK is supported by the MAA and the NSF. | Release notes: http://goo.gl/Ry5HN | Channel logged at http://goo.gl/jELTn
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13:07 Topic for #webwork is now WeBWorK (http://webwork.maa.org) is an open-source online homework system for math and sciences courses. WeBWorK is supported by the MAA and the NSF. | Release notes: http://goo.gl/Ry5HN | Channel logged at http://goo.gl/jELTn
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