Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #webwork, 2015-02-17

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02:48 Topic for #webwork is now WeBWorK (http://webwork.maa.org) is an open-source online homework system for math and sciences courses. WeBWorK is supported by the MAA and the NSF. | Release notes: http://goo.gl/Ry5HN | Channel logged at http://goo.gl/jELTn
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18:17 drdrew42 I didn't see Just-In-Time assignments mentioned in the 2.10 update notes...
18:17 goehle they are not included in 2.10
18:18 drdrew42 I'm wondering which branch I should use if I want to access them
18:18 goehle You could use the jitar2 branch from my goehle/webwork2 repository
18:19 goehle I would *not* switch over to that on a production machine mid semester, though
18:19 drdrew42 No, on my local machine, just to begin creating JIT assignments
18:19 goehle thats not so bad then
18:19 goehle just add my reposition
18:20 goehle git remote add goehle http://github.com/goehle/webwork2.git
18:20 goehle and then checkout the jitar 2 branch
18:20 drdrew42 perfect.
18:20 goehle git checkout -b jitar goehle/jitar2
18:20 goehle NP
18:20 goehle It will require a db upgrade.
18:21 goehle but thats not a problem on a new server
18:21 drdrew42 Hence not implementing on the public server...
18:21 goehle I recommend jasons install script
18:21 goehle right
18:21 drdrew42 Which install script is that?
18:21 goehle Its super nice for setting up virtual machines
18:21 goehle https://github.com/aubreyja/ww_install/
18:23 drdrew42 I recall setting up a quick virtual machine during the Wash DC model course workshop
18:23 drdrew42 But it's setup on my laptop, which I don't currently have access to.
18:23 goehle Thats the quickest way to install that I know of
18:23 goehle we use to have .iso images but none of those are up to date
18:23 goehle I would also look at
18:23 goehle http://webwork.maa.org/wiki/Just-In-Time
18:23 goehle if you haven't yet
18:23 drdrew42 I have.
18:24 drdrew42 I'm also curious about installing achievement items on a test server as well...
18:24 goehle achievement items are available in 2.10
18:24 goehle and can be enabled using the course configuration menu
18:24 drdrew42 Okay, perfect.
18:24 drdrew42 So I'll use Jason's installer, and check out the jitar2 branch from your github repo
18:25 drdrew42 That should cover both
18:25 goehle That should work.  Let me know if you run into trouble
18:25 drdrew42 will do
18:25 goehle We will be pulling jitar into develop and then into master for next fall
18:25 goehle so we want to get testing in
18:25 drdrew42 I'll be glad to have some assignments already prepared for it.
18:26 goehle Preparing jitar stuff is significantly more work than standard homework because even a set with only 5 or 6 main "problems" will have 30 or more total problems
18:26 goehle so getting a start early is a really good idea
18:27 drdrew42 Yeah, I've been scheming since you first announced it on the blog.
18:28 goehle which class out of curiosity
18:28 drdrew42 My initial focus is for Developmental Math...
18:28 drdrew42 So the scaffolding should be relatively straightforward.
18:28 drdrew42 Plus, CUNY has lots of room for improvement in this area.
18:29 goehle sounds good
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21:48 drdrew42 another quick question
21:48 goehle sure
21:49 drdrew42 how crazy would it be to run a virtual box on my main webwork server
21:50 goehle I depends on how good your server is, but I haven't had a lot of luck using things like VirtualBox on servers.
21:50 goehle Virtualization for servers is kind of a different thing and uses a different set of tools.
21:50 goehle However if your server is big enough and you get the right set up you can absolutely do that
21:51 goehle (All of my servers are virtual machines on our main university servers)
21:51 drdrew42 All my virtualization has been command line based... vagrant and virtualbox
21:51 drdrew42 And the server we've got running WW now is way more than what's needed.
21:52 goehle you can try
21:52 goehle I've had VirtualBox hard lock my department server on a couple of occasions
21:52 goehle so I dont use it any more
21:52 goehle (at least on the server.  I use it on my office machien al ot)
21:52 goehle but there are other more robust solutions out there
21:52 drdrew42 So what are you using for your virtual machines?
21:53 goehle I use VirtualBox on my office machine, and we don't do them on the server anymore
21:53 drdrew42 I see
21:53 drdrew42 Do you recall what OS you were using when it was hard locking?
21:53 goehle Debian
21:53 drdrew42 squeeze?
21:54 goehle Wheezy
21:54 drdrew42 I guess I'll wait to try it until tomorrow.
21:54 drdrew42 Not gonna risk locking up the machine when our IT has already left the building.
21:54 goehle there are definitely solutions out there
21:55 goehle vitualization is how a lot of stuff is done nowadays
21:55 drdrew42 I'll need them to open up a port for the test server anyhow.
21:56 drdrew42 It's either that, or start carrying my laptop with me all the time.
21:56 goehle yeah
21:56 drdrew42 I'm not gonna bother trying to sync up my work across two desktops and a laptop.
21:56 goehle your it department might be able to provide you with a virtual machine more or less free of charge
21:56 drdrew42 All their servers are Windows-based.
21:57 goehle so our university servers
21:57 goehle I think they use the paid version of VMware for their virtualization
21:57 drdrew42 Okay, perhaps I'll suggest that as well.
21:57 goehle I have 3 webwork servers and they are all virtualmachines
21:57 goehle It makes partitioning development a lot easier
21:58 drdrew42 I'd imagine so.
21:58 drdrew42 Not having to manually switch between builds.
21:58 goehle Right, and the IT department prefers it to having one big overworked server
21:59 drdrew42 Cool. Thanks Geoff!
21:59 goehle NP
21:59 goehle good luck

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